1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: Why did you do it? 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: dot Com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 4: I fucking love him. 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 5: I can't get enough of him. 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 4: Let's hear that birthfa brekers. 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 6: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artist. 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 7: Ah, we're back, folks, back after the bye week, and 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 7: great to be with all of you. It is Monday, 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 7: November twenty ninth. The year is still twenty twenty one. 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 7: It's episode three, twenty six of the anakmploring podcast Ken Flow. 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 7: Did you enjoy the week off miss me at all? 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: I did? I did? 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 8: I ate way too much? You know it was a 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 8: bad boy but other than that, Yes, I did miss you. 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been. I've been cutting weight the last forty 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 7: eight hours. I think I was like in my own 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 7: little eating competition on Thursday to see if I could 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 7: do like six seven thousand calories. We cleared seven seven 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 7: thousand calories. There's no doubt. But man, this MMA news 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 7: cycle just continues to give. We'll talk a little bit 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 7: today about the main event offering between Benil dar USh 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 7: and Islam Makasha. That should provide further clarity. Of course, 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 7: the top the lightweight division. That one's in February, so 33 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 7: we'll get some thoughts from Ken Flow an early handicap 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 7: on that time, permitting some thoughts on tryad combat. Am 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 7: I pronouncing that right? 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: Ken Flow? Yes? 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 5: Tread or appreciating. 38 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 7: Like triage, Triad combat, Platinum Perry reportedly making a quarter 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 7: mill to show and victorious in a triangle over the weekend. 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 7: But we were obviously not here during Thanksgiving week, so 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 7: I would like to get your thoughts, at least off 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 7: the top and headlines on the main event between Kaitlyn 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 7: Vieda and Mesha Tate. Unanimous decision for Fieta forty eight 44 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 7: forty seven times two dissenting judge forty nine to forty six, 45 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 7: four to one, all three judges in favor of Kaitlyn Viada. 46 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 7: I would agree with me should tate that as an observer, 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 7: a somewhat distracted observer, minds you. I thought it was 48 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 7: a relatively close fight, but I thought Kaitlyn Viea was 49 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 7: certainly the winner. Of your thoughts on the main event 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 7: a couple weeks ago. 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I saw it the same way. I 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 8: think that I saw some major improvements as far as 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 8: some of the striking mechanics of me Shad Tate. I 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 8: thought she was a much better striker out there and 55 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 8: made some excellent progress there. 56 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: But I thought Kaitlyn Vieira was more effective. 57 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 8: I thought Misha wasn't moving her feet as well, and 58 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 8: she was taking some shots and wearing the shots of Vieira, 59 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 8: and I think that really was the difference. At the 60 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 8: end of the day, Kaitlyn Vieira showed improvements herself. I 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 8: thought her fundamentals were a little bit more solid. She 62 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 8: did a good job of stopping those takedowns. I thought 63 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 8: if Misha was able to get on top, I thought 64 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 8: it would have favored Misha for sure, she wasn't successful 65 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 8: in that realm and it was a close fight, but certainly, 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 8: had Kaitlyn Viea winning that fight. 67 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 5: You had a great week. 68 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 7: By the way, if betters had put one hundred dollars 69 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 7: on all of your selections, your only miss was on 70 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 7: Misha plus five hundred and twenty seven dollars, you're making 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 7: the listener's money over the last week ago. But as 72 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 7: far as Kaitlyn Vieda is concerned, and you know, sometimes 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 7: in lieu of an analytical mind like yours, I focus 74 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 7: on things like you know, commitment right, and work ethic 75 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 7: and focus right, and sometimes you need the right opponent 76 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 7: and the right fight to bring you back to that place. 77 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 7: And anyone who remembers when Kaitlyn Vieda was signed by 78 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 7: the UFC knows that the promotion thought highly of her 79 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 7: and thought that she could results like this. And I 80 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 7: think when you get a main event against a returning, 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 7: motivated Mescha Tate title eliminator of sorts, insofar as one 82 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 7: of you is eliminated, and Mesha Tate was eliminated, I 83 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 7: thought it brought the best out of Kaitlyn Vita. She 84 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 7: was focused, she made weight and man, she hits fucking hard. 85 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 3: Huh, she hits hard. 86 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 8: You know, she's definitely well built for that division and 87 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 8: again showed improvements. And I think you look at her 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 8: fight against Arana Aldonna, you know, the improvements that she's 89 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 8: made since then, and you know, coming back from you know, 90 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 8: those couple of losses, she showed that she is tough, 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 8: she is determined, and she went against Mesha Tate. Like 92 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 8: you said, she went to against a Misha Tate that 93 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 8: was highly motivated, that showed improvements. It wasn't enough, but 94 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 8: I think Misha's on the right track. This is a 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 8: Mesha Tate late in her career that is improving as 96 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 8: a martial artist and as a fighter, and I expect. 97 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 3: More of those changes moving forward from her as well. 98 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 7: And of course, in less than two weeks, Juliannapenya in 99 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 7: this division will challenge Amanda Nenz for one of her 100 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 7: two titles, the UFC Women's Bandhamweight Championship. And for those 101 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 7: suggesting that the waters are pretty shallow thereafter, you know, 102 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 7: Kaitlyn Vieda is a new challenger. A lot of people 103 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 7: thought that maybe she would have gotten to the top 104 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 7: of the heap sooner but after this win over Misha 105 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 7: remains to be seeing. How many cuts to thirty five 106 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 7: New Nest still has left remains to be seen if 107 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 7: she even gets past Juliana Penya, but Kaitlyn Vieda is 108 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 7: in the mix after a big win over Misha. Take 109 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 7: unless you have anything else on the main event, I'll 110 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 7: move along to Sean Brady, who certainly passed the biggest 111 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 7: test of his UFC career to date. 112 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, and really impressive given the fact that he doesn't 113 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 8: have a dozen fights to the UFC and he's facing 114 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 8: a guy er relatively early in his career in Michael Kisa, 115 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 8: who has been there and really done that, both at 116 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 8: fifty five and one hundred and seventy pounds and also 117 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 8: being a tall, lanky grappler. This was going to be 118 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 8: an interesting test for Sean Brady, and boy did he pass. 119 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 8: You know the test. I thought that he showed superior 120 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 8: grappling skills to that of Michael Kisa. Entries into takedowns 121 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 8: were phenomenal, that showed excellent timing there was taking down 122 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 8: Michael Kissa, showing superior positioning there landing some good strikes 123 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 8: on the ground where I thought a little was left 124 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 8: to be desired was on the striking aspect of Sean 125 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 8: Brady's game. 126 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: I expect a little bit more striking wise. 127 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 8: I thought Michael Kiessa was winning a lot of those 128 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 8: exchanges and hurting Brady there. But an undefeated Sean Brady 129 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 8: here at five and oh is extremely impressive. Again, only 130 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 8: five fights into his career, on his fifth fight, he's 131 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 8: fighting a true veteran to Michael Kiessa and getting it 132 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 8: done and doing it impressively. This kid is someone to 133 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 8: watch at one hundred and seventy pounds, no question about it. 134 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, perfect UFC start five and oh, I think fourteen 135 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 7: or fifteen to oh overall, but getting in a lot 136 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 7: of valuable developmental time, not just in the gym in 137 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 7: the Northeast, but obviously in the octagon against a guy 138 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 7: as credentialed as Michael Kiess and Kissa took to social 139 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 7: media said largely the goal remains unchanged, focused on becoming 140 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 7: the undisputed UFC welch await champ. But he's obviously got 141 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 7: a hill to climb and and it's a more steep 142 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 7: gray now. With back to back losses to Vicente Luke 143 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 7: and now Sean Brady seem like maybe Brady was dealing 144 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 7: with a bloody nose early on, and I know, I 145 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 7: think in reading some of his quotes after the fact, 146 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 7: he might have a procedure to try to sort of 147 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 7: nip that in the bud. But he says sometimes even 148 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 7: when he just gets touched with an open palm and training, 149 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 7: things start to leak. So uh, hopefully that won't be 150 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 7: something that rears with ugly head throughout Sean Brady's career. 151 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 7: He did call for potentially the winner of Balal Muhammad 152 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 7: and Stephen WonderBoy Thompson. But regardless, big thanks for Sean 153 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 7: Brady's getting a big fight, just had a big fight. 154 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 7: He's getting a big fight next. 155 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 8: And how about that for confidence, you know again saying 156 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 8: yes to a fight like Michael Kisa in his and 157 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 8: only his fifth fight in UFC now calling out, you know, 158 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 8: the winner of Balal Mohammad uh and Sean Uh and 159 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 8: WonderBoy sorry Stephen wonder Boy Thompson. 160 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: Uh. 161 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 8: It shows that he feels he is ready to make 162 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 8: a run for the title already, so look looking forward 163 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 8: to seeing how that develops. 164 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 7: By the way, betting odds released over the weekend for 165 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 7: Muhammad and Stephen wonder Boy Thompson. Did that cross your 166 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 7: wake at all? Ken Flow Tomson? 167 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: Minus? 168 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 5: Should I tell you? 169 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: Should? 170 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 5: I make you guess? 171 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 7: So my twin brother called me after getting a text 172 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 7: from our executive producer Cody Merrow. He said, before you 173 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 7: look at your phone, what do you think the opening 174 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 7: line is on Stephen Wonner Boy Thompson and at our 175 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 7: guy bal Muhammad, who hows to show on this channel 176 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 7: every Thursday night. 177 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 5: It's called remember the fucking Show without. 178 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: The f wort? 179 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 7: So I thought Ballall would be the underdog. I thought 180 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 7: wonder Boy would be like minus one ninety. That was 181 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 7: my guess. 182 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: What do you think? I think that's about right? 183 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 8: I'd say, yeah, maybe one eighty ish for wonder Boy. 184 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 7: So he's minus two forty so a little bit more pronounced. 185 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 7: And when I pulled the masses, a lot of people 186 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 7: sort of liked wonder Boy at that number. The comeback 187 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 7: on Balall is minus or is plus one ninety? I 188 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 7: should say? But I think these are pretty simple fights 189 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 7: to handy cap what it is won Er Boy Thompson? 190 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: Right? I mean? 191 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 7: Is is Muhamma going to be able to do a 192 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 7: lot of what Gilbert Burns was able to do and 193 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 7: make this his fight because again, standing and trading with 194 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 7: this guy more often than not as the recipe for disaster. 195 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 7: I thought that was interesting that came out, and Sean 196 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 7: Brady certainly fact is prominently in that welterweight equation. Tyla 197 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 7: Santos with a submission win over Joanne Wood, who is 198 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 7: now zero to one under the Wood banner after dropping 199 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 7: the Calder would and then Adrian Janz I know you're 200 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 7: a fan over Davy Grant, split decision twenty nine to 201 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 7: twenty eight times two for Yanez and the other judge 202 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 7: had at thirty twenty seven for Davy Grant. This is 203 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 7: obviously something you're looking to avoid when it comes to 204 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 7: the scorecards. Michael Bisping had a two to one for 205 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 7: Davy Grant. He was on the call and that is 206 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 7: not British bias. I think he is giving an objective 207 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 7: scorecard there. I thought Yanas won the fight. It was 208 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 7: a competitive fight. I like both guys. Your thoughts on 209 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,359 Speaker 7: Adrian Yanez back earlier this month. 210 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 8: Listen, I didn't think it was going to be easy 211 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 8: to finish someone like Davy Grant, and he's a guy 212 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 8: that just will survive and find a way to come back, 213 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 8: and he's gonna fight to the very end. However, I 214 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 8: would disagree with our buddy Michael Bisping. I thought Yannis 215 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 8: did win the fight. I think that when you have 216 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 8: that kind of shoulder roll style, it looks like you're 217 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 8: taking shots. A lot of those shots were really skimming 218 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 8: off the top of the head or you know, sliding 219 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 8: off that deflecting shoulder of Adrian Yanez. So I don't 220 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 8: think a lot of those shots were landing. To be honest, 221 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 8: Davey Grant showed a lot of heart in that fight, 222 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 8: but Yannas, I thought, was just really dominant with this striking. 223 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was even closer. 224 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 8: I thought it was the thirty twenty seven for Yannis, 225 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 8: to be honest, and I thought there was one of 226 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 8: those rounds that were close. But you know, I thought 227 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 8: it really it was Yannaz who was piecing up Davy 228 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 8: Grant for the most part and you know, just leading 229 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 8: the dance pretty much start to finish. So and another 230 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 8: impressive performance for Yana is getting more experience, getting better, 231 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 8: and he did it against a very tough Davy Grant. 232 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 7: It really is hard to judge this sport to watch 233 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 7: the striking closely, and I know for those of us 234 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 7: who commentate the sport, it's even harder. I remember you 235 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 7: saying to me, God, probably ten years ago now, but 236 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 7: how hard it is when both guys land simultaneously to 237 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 7: not dip into one narrative. Right, But you're right. I 238 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 7: did think that Yanaz was rolling pretty well with a 239 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 7: lot of those shots. And I think sometimes beauty's in 240 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 7: the eye of the beholder, and Grant throws a lot 241 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 7: of himself into those shots, and you really have to 242 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 7: watch closely as an observer, and I think sometimes as 243 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 7: a fan, when there's a lot going on, drinking or 244 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 7: whatever else, it's hard to really watch strikes, and certainly 245 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 7: as a commentator when you're talking to your producers. But 246 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 7: as a fan like ken Fal, I know you're watching 247 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 7: this stuff pretty closely. And you saw what you saw 248 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 7: Rana Yaya. I mean, just go bet on Rana Yaya, right, 249 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 7: the ageless Rana Yaya gets it done over Kyung Ho 250 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 7: Kong twenty nine to twenty eight times three. 251 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, just again, another did Ronnie Yaya performance and he 252 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 8: found himself in some trouble there against the Korean fighter 253 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 8: who showed some serious toughness. But yah, yah, just too 254 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 8: good man, You know exactly what he's gonna do. He 255 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 8: still gets finds a way to get you to the ground, 256 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 8: whether he's on his back or not. Knows how to 257 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 8: turn the tables and take advantage, take that back and 258 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 8: surprise he wasn't able to get the finish from you 259 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 8: know that back mount, but just dominant nonetheless superior positioning. 260 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: Brazilian jiu jitsu at its best right there. 261 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 7: All right, So, after an off week for the Combat 262 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 7: Sports Leader, the UFC will be back at at three 263 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 7: consecutive shows here in December, the fourth, the eleventh, and 264 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 7: the eighteenth. First up will be Rob font and Jose Aldo. 265 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 7: James Crafts coming up shortly to make some predictions. Gota 266 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 7: love two guys on the main card who can flow fought. 267 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 7: You know you gotta love that, Clay Guida and Jose Aldo. 268 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 7: More on that coming up later, But a couple other 269 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 7: items I want to get to before we bring on 270 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 7: Ray Longo. He's gotten progressively less polite with his text 271 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 7: message replies when I write, hey, man like his twelve 272 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 7: thirty pm Eastern good and he'll be like yes, you know, 273 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 7: not like yes, happy Thanksgiving, looking forward. 274 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 5: To it, just yes. 275 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 7: So we'll have to catch up with with what I 276 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 7: believe will be a curmudgeonly y longo on a Monday morning, 277 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 7: I mean, the Monday after Thanksgiving week is hard for 278 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 7: a lot of people. But I want to get your 279 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 7: thoughts on a few other items before we move on. So, 280 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 7: is Lam Kashev by virtue of the way he beat 281 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 7: Dan Hooker, and because he's won like nine consecutive fights, 282 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 7: a lot of people felt like maybe he was going 283 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 7: to be a backup for the title fight between Charles 284 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 7: Oliver and Dustin Poier, which is coming up on December eleventh, 285 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 7: or a lot of people thought maybe he'd be next 286 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 7: for the title. But it looks as though that distinction 287 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 7: belongs to Justin Gaetchee, who will await the winner of. 288 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 5: Oliver and Porier. 289 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 7: And that means that is la Ma Kashev will put 290 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 7: his nine fight winning streak on the line against the 291 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 7: also streaking Banil Daryush. And I guess my thesis statement 292 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 7: is at lightweight, it's never enough, right. Just ask Tony 293 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 7: Ferguson how many wins you need? Fifty five to get 294 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 7: a championship opportunity. So Makashev's got a hugely hard fight 295 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 7: now in front of him in February, and if he 296 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 7: gets by this one ten in a row is going 297 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 7: to earn him a title fight. Your thoughts on Mikashevan Daryush. 298 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 8: I think this is an awesome fight. I think that 299 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 8: this is gonna be a real test for both men. 300 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 8: Dar Yush is I guess you could argue the highest 301 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 8: level grappler that Mahashev has faced at this point in 302 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 8: his career. So I'm really curious to see how that 303 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 8: ground battle goes down. Does Dar Yush have the ground 304 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 8: skills to nullify and perhaps, you know, go on the 305 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 8: attack against someone like Mahaschef. I think both men are 306 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 8: dangerous on the feet as well. I think mahas Chef 307 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 8: has some serious power. He's had some good fundamentals on 308 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 8: his feet. Dar Yusch has that I don't give a 309 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 8: fuck type to stand up where he'll take you know, 310 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 8: two or three to give one big bomb. He has 311 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 8: shown his toughness, his chin, his durability in previous fight. 312 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 8: I think he's got a ton of momentum and confidence 313 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 8: behind him right now, he realizes how big this fight 314 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 8: is for him, and I think all the pressure is 315 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 8: on Maha Chef. So I think Daryush is in a 316 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 8: great position here, awesome fight, and I think well placed 317 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 8: there in a main event in February. 318 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: Is that right? Yes? 319 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 7: I believe February twenty six, then well set up by you, 320 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 7: And that's why I wanted to get some of your 321 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 7: thoughts on it. I believe they're both managed by Ali Abdelaziz, 322 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 7: but again, a fight of that magnitude probably pretty easy 323 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 7: to get both sides to agree. I don't know if 324 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 7: there's you know, title shot language, but that has to 325 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 7: be something verbally that was presented to both sides. If 326 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 7: you're been Neil Daryush, right, I mean, I think he's 327 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 7: won six in a row. If you beat Islam, dude, 328 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 7: you're fighting for the belts as well, and what a 329 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 7: story that would be, right when you think about him 330 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 7: getting into the UFC and essentially devotes five years of 331 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 7: his life to jiu jitsu masters that craft in so 332 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 7: many words, right, and then moves on to MMA and 333 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 7: you know, had some ups and downs. So now bona 334 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 7: FIDE lightweight contenter getting Islamikashev. It's absolutely incredib well, I 335 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 7: fucking love that fight, and I'll be sitting on my 336 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 7: couch watching it like most of the rest of you, 337 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 7: all right to that end. UFC two to sixty nine 338 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 7: is less than two weeks away, and we're gonna spend 339 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 7: most of next week's show on it, so I won't 340 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 7: go too deep today. Charles Olavera obviously broke through against 341 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 7: Michael Chandler. He is the undisputed USC lightweight champion. Dustin 342 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 7: Poorier this will be his third championship training camp of 343 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 7: twenty twenty one. Now, granted, the first two were for 344 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 7: non title fights, right, but Domina Cruz oftentimes has talked 345 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 7: about twenty sixteen, and he had three twenty five minute 346 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 7: fights TJ. Dillashaw in January, Uriah Faber in July, Cody 347 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 7: Garbrand in December. Three championship training camps inside of twelve 348 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 7: months proved to be too much. Just didn't have it 349 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 7: against Garbrand at the end of the year. And if 350 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 7: I am voicing concerns for Dustin Pourier, that is chief 351 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 7: among them. It's been a very busy year for Poorier, 352 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 7: so busy that some chail Son in I believe in others. No, 353 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 7: it wasn't Chale, but some question I think it was 354 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 7: Brett Okamoh. Actually whether or not this belt of Charles 355 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 7: Oliver's would even be on the line again in twenty 356 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 7: twenty one because Poorier needed some time off. But this 357 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 7: belt was earned in May and it'll be defended in December. 358 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 7: And I think for Dustin it's asking a lot of 359 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 7: himself to perform at his peak for a third straight 360 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 7: time this year. 361 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: I think it is a lot. 362 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 8: However, I think that narrative is going to be different 363 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 8: for each and every fighter. Right It's like Dominic Cruz 364 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 8: has had some issues staying healthy throughout. 365 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: His career or a little bit later in his career. 366 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 8: And you know, you look at a guy like a 367 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 8: GSP and how often he defended the belt in certain 368 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 8: years and he was preparing for three sometimes for title fights. 369 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 8: I don't know if I could be completely inaccurate on that, 370 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 8: but you know, he did it often and stayed quite busy, 371 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 8: and he was training all the time. 372 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: The dude was a workhorse. 373 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 8: I've never seen someone be able to take on that 374 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 8: kind of training volume. However, I did see that wear 375 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 8: on GSP over time, so it is something to watch 376 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 8: for and I'm curious to see how Dustin Poier is 377 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 8: able to handle that workload over the course of these 378 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 8: last twelve months. These are big fights. Takes a lot 379 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 8: out of you physically, mentally, spiritually. But Dustin Poier the Diamond. 380 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 8: They call him the Diamond for a reason. This guy 381 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 8: is as durable as they come. It seems like he 382 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 8: still gets better, more confident with each and every fight 383 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 8: he's fighting. 384 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: OLIVERA. 385 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 8: I think at the right time in his career, you know, 386 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 8: aside from being busy this year, I think as far 387 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 8: as the skills that he's a mass, the experience that 388 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 8: he's a mass at this point, big fight experience. 389 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: He has more of that than than OLIVERA. 390 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 8: Okay, so I think this is a fascinating matchup, but 391 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 8: that could very well play a factor. 392 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: And I don't know what are the odds right now. 393 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 7: John Dustin's favored, albeit slightly. Well, it depends where you look, 394 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 7: but I think in the minus one sixty range. And 395 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 7: again you bring up a lot of important differences between 396 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 7: a fighter built like Dustin Poorier and a fighter built 397 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 7: like Domina Cruz. And again It's not as though those 398 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 7: poor Ye McGregor fights went very long juxtaposed against Domina 399 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 7: Cruz's previous two fights against dill Shan Favor that both 400 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 7: won twenty five minutes, and the Dillashaw fight in particular 401 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 7: was very physically taxing. So we'll see how it plays out. 402 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 7: Pourier is the favorite right now. Charles Olivera has been 403 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 7: off since May, and it all goes down to Team 404 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 7: Mobile Arena in December eleventh. Full picks from Ken Flow 405 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 7: and Jimmy Krouse coming up next Monday here on the 406 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 7: Anak and Floran podcast. Sorry, Ray Longo coming up in 407 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 7: about sixty seconds, but I gotta tell you Ken Flow. 408 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 7: Every time I get ready to go wheels up for 409 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 7: a UFC Live event, I get a little anxious about 410 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 7: being on all these public wi fis, credit card info, 411 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 7: my personal data. 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It is 445 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 7: now time for the Ray Longo Minutes. 446 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna puts a hole in this fucking sucks. 447 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: That's what I want with. 448 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 9: The Ray Longo Minute. 449 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: Sorry long the John. 450 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: Nik and Kenny Florian Podcast. 451 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 3: What up? 452 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 9: Ray? Oh? Man? The hell? We Dowan. 453 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 7: The star of the program? 454 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 5: You are? 455 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 9: Well? Yeah, I hope Krause is happy because I'm a mess. 456 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 9: Hope Crowse is happy? So is this fucking cameras sucked? Man? 457 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 7: Is the new is the new time slot not working. 458 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: Out for you? 459 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 9: That's actually better? I think? 460 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 5: All right? So twelve thirty pm Eastern is. 461 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 9: It's actually good? Are we feeling guys? 462 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 5: I feel like we're feeling good. 463 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 7: So you're just you're just you're just having fun with Krause, right, 464 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 7: You're not? 465 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: Really? 466 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 9: Oh? I love Craus. 467 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 7: Happy Thanksgiving it's great to see. 468 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 9: Wait, first of all, I like everybody. When I'm busting bulls, 469 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 9: I'm busting I know, I know, I'm hoping it's funny 470 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 9: to people. 471 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 7: But of course, right like you and I love each other. 472 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 7: But I think the people listen to the podcast, they 473 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 7: might think at times that we don't know. 474 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 9: I don't think they would ever think that. 475 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 7: Uh well, sometimes people take issue with as soon as 476 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 7: as you get off the air, I take a shot, 477 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 7: and you're not here to defend yourself. And you can 478 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 7: be sure, I'm gonna do it again today. 479 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 9: But see that's what I mean. I want you to 480 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 9: do it right. So we're trying to deliver content, John, exactly. 481 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 5: Content. 482 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 7: So how is your Thanksgiving in terms of content? 483 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: Uh? It was good. 484 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 9: It was really good to my sister in laws and 485 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 9: I visited a friend, Joe Spinelli bought a beautiful house 486 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 9: over in Low Hollow. Uh so we had a great 487 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 9: time over there, and yeah, it was good. 488 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 5: How about you guys, Yeah, no, all good. Ken Fler. 489 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 5: Were you in Charlotte for thanks. 490 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 8: I was, I was, you know, my wife's family was 491 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 8: here for Thanksgiving. I had a bunch of kids and 492 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 8: dogs here at the house. It was a house. 493 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: It was a madhouse. And I ate like a complete pig. 494 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: But here we are. 495 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 9: I'll tell you that hair is in place. Though, Buddy, 496 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 9: I can't get my hair to stay down. I don't 497 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 9: know what's happening. 498 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 7: You guys would probably talk off the air about some 499 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 7: hair products, and Kenny, I'll help. 500 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: You out right, thank you. 501 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 8: Hey, if you have any hair product people out there, 502 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 8: you want to sign out. Long ago, it worked every 503 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 8: time anything I mentioned the Senate to Ray, they send it. 504 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 9: Hey, John, how had it? Yeah? John? How did you? 505 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 9: How did you avoid you when I was in Florida? 506 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 9: That's what I want to know. 507 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 7: Well, you were way south of me, and the timing 508 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 7: was a little bit tricky memory search, you know. But 509 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 7: you're about forty five minutes south of me. And yeah, 510 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 7: but I got your mess the day after when you 511 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 7: said lunch or dinner on me because I don't pass 512 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 7: up free meals. 513 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: You know, pretty south? Where the hell? 514 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 9: Right? 515 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 7: Where were you? 516 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: Cuba? 517 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 9: Forty right? Exactly exactly, he's. 518 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 7: Away in the He's at the very end of Florida. 519 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: I don't get it. How much more south could he be? 520 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 9: Yeah? He told me he was close to Laudadale. That's 521 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 9: where I was. 522 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was about I'm in I'm in West Poker ratone. 523 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 7: If you want, I can give out the address too, 524 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 7: but I am. I have forty five minutes north of Miami, 525 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 7: maybe thirty minutes north of Fort Lauderdale, but no, I 526 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 7: think I don't know. I went across the state for vacation. 527 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 7: But anyway, we I I what we really need to 528 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 7: do is is the three of us, at some point 529 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 7: get together in a non podcast environment. I mean, we've 530 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 7: never sat down and broken bread, the three of us, 531 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 7: you know, not one time. 532 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 9: I'm living for that. But anyway, listen, before I even 533 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 9: get going, I want to shout out to uh, doctor 534 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 9: Tony Ricci and his friends over at the Fights Fight 535 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 9: Science Live at Nova Southeast, and what a great so. 536 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 9: Yeah they have been Yeah, doctor Jose Antonio, doctor Talvin Silva, 537 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 9: doctor Corey Peacock. They're doing a great job. And I'm 538 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 9: one of those guys like you know, I don't want 539 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 9: too much analysis. It's like paralysis by analysis. So but 540 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 9: they really Tony's really really entrenched in the fight game. 541 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 9: I worked with him for years and he really knows 542 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 9: how to transfer and explain everything over you guys have 543 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 9: to get a chance, John, you would love that facility. 544 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 9: They could test everything possible over there. It's phenomenal. 545 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 7: I am overdue to connect with Tony, especially now that 546 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 7: he's in South Florida. All right, a couple items with 547 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 7: Raymond Longo today. I don't know if you had anything 548 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 7: for us on the Kaitlyn Vieta Misha Tate main event 549 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 7: that happened a couple of weeks ago. I think Misha 550 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 7: was very accurate in terms of her own self assessment. 551 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 7: You know that she doesn't have to panic wrestle anymore, right, 552 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 7: I mean, she certainly has developed her skills, and I 553 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 7: do think she can make a run. But this was 554 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 7: Kaitlyn night. I don't know if you had anything for 555 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 7: us on that. 556 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 9: Uh did? I thought, you know, like again, you know, 557 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 9: there's people that take time off and they come back 558 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 9: and they're a little older and they don't look that good. 559 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 9: I thought Misha looked good. She just ran into like 560 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 9: a bigger, stronger person who's you know, on the way up. 561 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 9: But I thought Misha had a great account of herself. 562 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 9: I really did, and I agree with her assessment. Didn't 563 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 9: look like she was gonna panic shoot, or she was 564 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 9: in a rush to get anywhere. But uh, you know, 565 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 9: I I think the moment that killed me the most 566 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 9: was after the fight when Caitlin Vieira was just crying, 567 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 9: because I really believe she probably idolized her growing up. 568 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 9: And that's a that's a really bad thing when you 569 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 9: beat the crap out of your idol you know what 570 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 9: I mean. You don't want to do it, but you 571 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 9: know it's part of the game. That that that that 572 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 9: last piece when she was crying telling me Sha tATu, 573 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 9: I'm sorry. Uh that that got to me man and 574 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 9: I and I get it. I get it. I think 575 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 9: we see it a lot in sports where you know, 576 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 9: the guys up and coming guys who they idolize, even 577 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 9: in box whatever it is, and then they have to 578 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 9: go in and you know, the person they idolize is 579 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 9: kind of on the way out and they have to, 580 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 9: you know, do what they have to do. That's what 581 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 9: I saw. But I thought, me, shit, did a great job. 582 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 9: I think she's I don't know, I like what I saw. 583 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 9: You know, is it enough to get it to the championship? 584 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 9: You know, look, she could always submit anybody, so she's 585 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 9: got that going and if she could stay healthy. I mean, look, 586 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 9: things change when you have a kid, and you know, 587 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 9: she did get pretty lumped up. And you know, I 588 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 9: sometimes you know, your priorities are different. I talk to 589 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 9: these guys as they getting older, their help their health 590 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 9: becomes their first priority. 591 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and these. 592 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 9: Are guys that are tough. Motherfucker is coming up, man, 593 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 9: and they just say, you know what, man, enough is enough. 594 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 9: It's been fifteen years, sixteen years, whatever it's been. They 595 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 9: got to just move on with their life. But I 596 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 9: thought she had a great account of herself and hats 597 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 9: off to Caitlin VR. I thought she was just classy 598 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 9: as you could be in a victory. 599 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 7: And I do think, generally speaking, and I've said it repeatedly, 600 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 7: if you are a combat sports athlete and you can 601 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 7: wait to have children until either late in your career 602 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 7: or it's over, cannot recommend that enough. I know, Kenny, 603 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 7: obviously you did not have kids while you were fighting, 604 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 7: and you and I, Kenny, both waited until we were 605 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 7: a little bit older to have kids. But like I 606 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 7: sit here right now on a Monday, I'm going to 607 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 7: Vegas to call Rob font and Jose Aldo and if 608 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 7: I had zero kids, the whole fucking show would be 609 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 7: prepared already. 610 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 611 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 7: So never mind if I'm an athlete trying to get 612 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 7: in sleep and three A days and everything else. And 613 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 7: you know, I know Misha is finding a good balancing act. 614 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 7: And again she's the one pushing out the babies, which 615 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 7: no male fighter can lay claim to. I'm just saying, 616 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 7: it's really hard to balance all of those things, no 617 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 7: matter your career, but especially as a fighter. 618 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 8: Can It's only hard if you want to be a 619 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 8: good parent. You don't want to be a good parent, 620 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 8: It's fine, it's not a problem. 621 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with another step. Obviously I've been there. 622 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 9: But Kenny's Kenny's right, man, And I tell you that's 623 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 9: the uh, He's one hundred percent right. I was. I'll 624 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 9: go another route. I was lucky enough to have a 625 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 9: great life that really did everything. So when I was traveling, 626 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 9: and I was traveling a lot, I always felt great. 627 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 9: I always tried to make it up. And I look again, 628 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 9: I don't even know if I did a good job. 629 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 9: I think I I tried it one hundred percent, was 630 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 9: aware of it, cognizant, and I tried, but Kenny's right. 631 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 9: So if you really want to be a good parent, man, 632 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 9: you got to be present. That's that's just the bottom line. 633 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 9: And uh, you know, I think there's other ways around it, 634 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 9: but I think that's where Matt's at in his life now. 635 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: Man. 636 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 9: He just wants to spend time with his kids. Man, 637 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 9: that's part of the whole thing. And you know with this, 638 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 9: there's there's things that exist outside of fighting, right and 639 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 9: call in the fights and everything else. But you get 640 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 9: one shot at doing that family thing right, and uh, 641 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 9: you better think about it because it's it's definitely not easy. 642 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 7: And I think for some of us fathers and mothers, 643 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 7: it's self inflicted guilt. 644 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 5: Right. 645 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 7: Like my wife has never given me shit for not 646 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 7: changing a diaper, no pun intended, but I put guilt 647 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 7: on myself when I'm not meeting her halfway. Like my 648 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 7: best friend who coined the phrase yo later, Brian Montgomery 649 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 7: love him right, never changed the diaper in his life. 650 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 7: Like he's an average father. He's a pretty good father. 651 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 7: You know, if he listens to this, he's going to 652 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 7: kill me, right. But like he coaches the hockey teams, 653 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 7: he's a doting dad. But omnipresent wouldn't be the first 654 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 7: adjective that I would use. And when he goes off 655 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 7: to Maine for a weekend, he does so free of guilt. 656 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 7: He's not putting any guilt on himself. And I know 657 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 7: for me and Kenny, and I'm sort of putting this 658 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 7: on him a little bit. But I know for us, 659 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 7: when we're away, you know, we come back, we feel 660 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 7: this great need to contribute and perhaps overcompensate for the 661 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 7: time we've missed. 662 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 9: You know, exactly. And just just the point, John, I 663 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 9: never changed the diaper either, not one. 664 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 5: In your life. 665 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 9: I maybe one isn't that I don't know. 666 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 7: So it's a little bit of a generational thing though, 667 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 7: I think Kenny right, because, yeah, no, that's true absolutely. 668 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 9: I mean the first time my wife left me with 669 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 9: the kids, I cooled my one friend who had kids, 670 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 9: christ you say, d you want to go to hang out? 671 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 9: He came over. I made him change the diapers. I swear, 672 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 9: I'm not even joking around. I was so happy to 673 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 9: come over. I said, you know how to change a diaper? 674 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 9: Because the same. 675 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 7: Thing, man, Yeah, no, I mean, when they're tiny, little 676 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 7: alien babies, that is the worst thing. But It is funny, right, 677 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 7: because I do think if you talk to a lot 678 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 7: of men born in the fifties and sixties, they didn't 679 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 7: change a lot of diapers. If you talk to men 680 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 7: born in the seventies, eighties, and nineties who have become parents, 681 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 7: I think a lot of those guys changed diapers. I 682 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 7: think it has changed a lot. I think the traditional 683 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 7: gender roles have have gone by the boards. No, you're 684 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 7: smirking at me. 685 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 9: Long ago things are things are changing in the world. 686 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 5: Chivalry is dead or no? Ray you guys? 687 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 9: Are you guys are given in? Can you hold to 688 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 9: your ground? Don't change a diaper? 689 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 3: I right this? 690 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: No what else ever happened? 691 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 9: You were never in the delivery room either. They have 692 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 9: to torture you with that now, right, you know what 693 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 9: I mean? You never you never want to look at 694 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 9: that thing when the baby's coming out. You'll never be 695 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 9: the same, John Gotener, You got to keep that picture 696 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 9: of that really popping. 697 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: It's funny. 698 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 5: I can un see it. 699 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, minded man trying to stay hard out here changing. 700 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 9: I have what about the delivery room when you get 701 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 9: that girl that's cursing out her husband, mother. 702 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 5: God, I your baby probably Oh. 703 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, I was like, I remember looking at my wife. Again, 704 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 9: listen you try that, and there I'm killing in the room. 705 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 9: I'm telling you this guy was getting slaughtered. John. You 706 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 9: know I'm on no sleep. 707 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 7: So it's yeah, well, this is not what I had 708 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 7: uh earmarks for the ray long a minute today, But 709 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 7: a couple of things I did want to talk about 710 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 7: Justin Montalvo oh this week Yeah right, I did my homework. 711 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 5: I did my research. 712 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 7: You've dropped his name twenty three times in the history 713 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 7: of the podcast, so I think we would give him 714 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 7: a shout out. 715 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 5: He's fighting this weekend, is that right? 716 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: That's right? 717 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 7: Bellatar, Bellatar, did you see Latour Elatur? Okay, so he's 718 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 7: got a fight this weekend. What can you tell us 719 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 7: about that? 720 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 9: Uh? Man, He's always ready to fight. He's always in 721 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 9: the gym. He's three and oh, got to I think 722 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 9: he's three and oh with three knockouts, three finishes, great hands, 723 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 9: great takedown defense. He's looking good, really really good. 724 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 7: Like you started talking about him on these airwaves when 725 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 7: he was an amateur. So I did want to give 726 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 7: Justin a little shout out there. 727 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 9: And he's been in the gym since he's fifteen, right, 728 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 9: he's one of those guys, so everybody's pulling for him. 729 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 9: He's a great kid, great great dad. Dad'll do anything 730 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 9: for him. Ernie Montaldo shout out to him, because I'll 731 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 9: tell you, without him, that kid's we don't know where 732 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 9: he is. But everything's going good now. So I'm stoked. 733 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 9: I'm leaving Wednesday night, and I'm really happy for this 734 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 9: one fights Connecticut. 735 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 7: Okay, all right, all right, last order of business and 736 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 7: then time permitting, we'll get a prediction from you on 737 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 7: Rob Fot and Jose Aldo coming up this weekend. So, 738 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 7: Ally Quinta has seemingly retired from mixed martial arts, or 739 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 7: at least has hinted as much publicly. I apologize for 740 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 7: not crediting the interview. Did you get a chance to 741 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 7: digest any of Ali Quinta's comments about his fighting future? 742 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, no, I've talked now. Man. I think he's had enough. Man. 743 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 9: I think he was scheduled for ACL surgery December second, 744 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 9: but he's going to go to Columbia to try to stemselves, 745 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 9: you know before. But he's just banged up, man, and 746 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 9: it's I think it just finally caught up to him, 747 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 9: even mentally. You know, because you could be banged up, 748 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 9: but mentally, still being nice, said this is the first 749 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 9: time he's he's pretty banged up. Mentally, I love the guy. 750 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 9: The guy will always be a warrior. But I I 751 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 9: don't think that's that fight was indicative of anything we've 752 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 9: seen a vlly at Quinta in the last fifteen years, Right. 753 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 8: Is that something that you saw coming a little bit 754 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 8: maybe leading up to that fight or in that camp 755 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 8: where you said, hey, Al's not putting forth maybe the 756 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 8: same kind of effort or his energy is off. Was 757 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 8: that something that you maybe you saw a little bit. 758 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, well he couldn't you know. And I but we 759 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 9: came to the agreement, like, listen, let's try to get 760 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 9: to the fight healthy. You know how to fight, you 761 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 9: know what I mean, do what you have to do. 762 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 9: But there were days where you'd have to take two 763 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 9: or three days off, which in a fight camp is 764 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 9: an eternity. But then he would feel good and I 765 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 9: would feel happy about that, and you know, it is 766 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 9: what it is. I honestly, I mean, he's been pretty 767 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 9: open with it. But I don't really want to take 768 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 9: one iodo away from Bobby Green. Think the guy's a 769 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 9: fucking great fighter and a great person. I really like 770 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 9: Bobby a lot, so I mean, I think I don't 771 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 9: want this talk to the ministry, did he? Because of 772 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 9: course Bobby Green wasn't good. I would have you know, 773 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 9: would have been you know, Bobby Green was part of 774 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 9: the problem. He's very good, right, and he was very 775 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 9: accurate and fast. 776 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 7: And you're right, this fight was the outlier in ally 777 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 7: A Quintin's career, without a doubt. And if you're talking 778 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 7: about his legacy, right, I would just point to three things. Okay, 779 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 7: The Ultimate Fighter Live came off The Ultimate Fighter Live 780 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 7: in twenty twelve. Obviously, that was the one season that 781 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 7: I work, so I feel a special bond to those athletes. 782 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 7: I Quinta could not even walk to the octagon barely 783 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 7: when he fought Michael Kiessa in that final fight. It 784 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 7: was at the end of thirteen weeks. I give him 785 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 7: a lot of credit for even fighting that night. Jorge 786 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 7: mosfeedal Win in Virginia when he said to the crowd, 787 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 7: are you guys booing me? 788 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 3: Fuck you? 789 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 9: Right? 790 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 7: I mean, probably the greatest story, one of the top 791 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 7: three post fight interviews that I've ever been involved with. 792 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 7: And then of course fighting Habibnrmago Mattot for twenty five 793 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 7: minutes on twenty four hours notice, right, and putting a 794 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 7: pretty good showing of him sell forward that night. So 795 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 7: I'll always think of those three things with Ali Quinday's 796 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 7: he's a lost man. He's a character, there's no doubt. 797 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, And I think those three things definitely define him 798 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 9: for various reasons. But how long ago was that that ultimate. 799 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 5: Fight to show twenty twelve? 800 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, so twenty twelve and he couldn't walk, so really 801 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 9: things didn't get a lot better even after that, and 802 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 9: he had great career, but he had to struggle through 803 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,479 Speaker 9: a lot of shit. He's a tough motherfucker. And I'd 804 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 9: watched that guy rehab every day, like doing the same shit. Yeah, 805 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 9: I think if I if I was his dillager with 806 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 9: my rehab, I'd be walking perfect, you know what I mean, 807 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 9: Like it's he just put the time in just on 808 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 9: reheb alone, just yeah, you know, watched him with the 809 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 9: bands every day and was always going once or twice 810 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 9: a week to Staten Island to fight science lived. No, 811 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 9: that's not whatever, whatever a place in Staton A. Holy Trump. 812 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 9: I'm drawing a blanket great. 813 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 7: Guyn't think hopefully he doesn't listen to the show, but 814 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 7: he probably does. 815 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 9: I gotta start, I gotta I gotta get on that 816 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 9: alpha brain as quick as you need. 817 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 5: You need to start smoking weed. You don't understand, that's 818 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 5: what happened. 819 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 9: I think I started smoking weed. Can't remember a thing? 820 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 9: Are you kidding? That made it worse. 821 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 7: I have to stop, hey, before I let you go. 822 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 7: I'm really excited to get back to work this weekend. 823 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 7: And it's Rob Font and Jose Aldo, and you know 824 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 7: this is a special fight. Obviously, we got a Massachusetts 825 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 7: kid on one side trying to potentially secure his first 826 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 7: UFC title shot, and then the King of Rio de Janeiro, 827 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 7: Jose Aldo, who is probably the most respected fighter by 828 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 7: his fellow fighters on the roster. Right now, Font is 829 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 7: a slight favorite minus one fifty. Ray, What do you 830 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 7: have for us on the main event in the division 831 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 7: in which you train and coach the champion. 832 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 9: And that's a five round the five rounds if needed? Yeah, 833 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 9: I think that's gonna that's the benefit to Font is 834 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 9: that far? I think in the three round fight, Jose 835 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 9: Aldo has been looking phenomenal, you know what I mean? 836 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 9: But he's got another two rounds to finish. Uh, I'm 837 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 9: gonna go with fun. He's got great boxing. I think 838 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 9: Jose Aldo also has great boxing. He's gonna be a 839 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 9: great fight. I just hope that ft. It's almost like 840 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 9: the Misha Tate Caitlyn Vieira. I'm sure he idolized Jose Aldo. 841 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 9: Now he's got to face this guy. He's still good. Uh, 842 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 9: he's gonna have to put all that stuff past him 843 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 9: and just go in what he does best, which is, 844 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 9: you know, put on a boxing clinic against the guy 845 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 9: that Kubak. So that's gonna be a great fight. I 846 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 9: think the five rounds fave is Font. I'm gonna I'm 847 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 9: gonna go with Font in this fight. 848 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 7: Look at long Ago ready to go on a Monday, 849 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 7: And you're absolutely right. There is a comparison to be 850 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 7: drawn between the VI eight to Tate. 851 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 852 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 5: I don't know if. 853 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 7: If Font put Alto on that pedestal per se, but yeah, 854 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,959 Speaker 7: I mean this is the fight. This is the guy, 855 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 7: the famous guy. You gotta get it past. You're gonna 856 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 7: become a world champion. Why did not Quin the podcast? 857 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 7: Call me al? If you do want to listen and follow, 858 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 7: I quint his exploits after fighting anything else before we 859 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 7: let you fly. You do need some fucking palmade on 860 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 7: that let. 861 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 9: Man, dude, I put, I could put anything in here. 862 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 9: It just sucks it right up. 863 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 7: Can he help me some or something up right? 864 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 9: So I must be taking something that's making my head 865 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,479 Speaker 9: grow like I just got a cut last week. It's 866 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 9: just crazy. But uh wait, I want to give a 867 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 9: shout out to Anthony to Lemme. He won a local 868 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 9: uh title at Bobby Campbell's Jack Hammack Promotions. They do 869 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 9: a great job him and Josh. They have a great 870 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 9: little venue over at Mokay's. We also had Mike Curio. 871 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 9: He looks like the next Kane Velasquez. To me. It's 872 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 9: his first fight. He came through submission first round. Zach 873 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 9: I think Zach Lowe is his name. Trained by the 874 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 9: manimal in here. He did great and whom I miss? 875 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 9: Oh Johnny of. 876 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 5: Course, I mean you're gonna forget. 877 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 9: Johnny and Johnny Salomon. He uh Johnny, three round decision, 878 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,439 Speaker 9: so we have we went four and oh which was great. 879 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 9: We have night. 880 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 3: What was that? I said? 881 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 5: How about that? No, that's great and that's my plugs 882 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 5: for the day man. No, well, it's great to see you. 883 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 3: No, I mean Info. 884 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 7: Got his blue Porsche fixed up all nice, it's trapped. 885 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 3: I do an older one, an older one, nineteen ninety. 886 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 9: I gotta tell you I haven't seen those cars in 887 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 9: a while. That was the that was the ship back 888 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 9: in the day. Man. 889 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, thank you. 890 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 9: I'm going to for Carreras the glasses. 891 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 7: Exactly at the big one. Absolutely, kem Fo can talk cars. 892 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 7: He's not going to indulge you in me in this conversation. 893 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 7: You can be sure. Hey, go get some palmade. 894 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 3: Uh. 895 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 7: Next week's a big, big week, obviously a big pay 896 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 7: per view weeks. So we'll talk to you next Monday. 897 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 7: But it's great to see you, brother. Happy Thanksgiving. And 898 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 7: you know I got more Christmas spirit than probably any 899 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 7: Jew on the planet, So I'm going to the holiday season. 900 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 9: We're old gods people under the sun. Buddy, don't break 901 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 9: it down to the Jewish Catholic. You're making a mistake. 902 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 7: Oh, I'm just I didn't grow up with like Christmas 903 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 7: trees and everything. So I'm married a Polish Catholic woman 904 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 7: and now it's like my kids have to listen to 905 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 7: Christmas carols from November fifteenth on. 906 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 9: Unless John is it a great holiday? Enjoy it's good 907 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 9: best they'll probably cancel it next year. So that's what 908 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 9: I'm doing. I'm going crazy this Christmas because who knows 909 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 9: what will be celebrating. 910 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 7: I will say, though, right, and I know you got 911 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 7: to go. But those people who who criticize other people 912 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 7: for like listening to holiday music like too early, as 913 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 7: if you don't have anything better to do in your 914 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 7: life than complain about when somebody chooses to start listening 915 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 7: to that new right, like one serious XM puts that 916 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 7: holiday channel one oh five like I'm in and if 917 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 7: they do it on November twentieth, great, But imagine being 918 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,720 Speaker 7: you know, such a low rider, such a bottom feeder, 919 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 7: right that you be like, why are they listening to 920 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 7: holiday music in November? It's like, why do you give 921 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 7: a shit? No, I don't know. We will be happy, 922 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 7: all right, yeah, we can all be happy. Hey, we'll 923 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 7: talk to you next Monday. Huh, great day, Peter, right right, yeah, 924 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 7: there he is. Ray Long a minute every Monday here 925 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 7: on the anticin Florian podcast. Maybe not the best minute 926 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 7: in the history, but next time, I Quins is not 927 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 7: training for a fight Baby tell us Ray so we 928 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 7: can bet on Bobby Great, you know, totally kidding love 929 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 7: both of those guys quickly want to get to the 930 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 7: pronunciation of the week, and then we'll get to the 931 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 7: great James Krause. So this fighter as we welcome on, 932 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 7: Cody Merrow. 933 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 5: It's good to see a kid. 934 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 6: What's up Bone, how you doing good? Good to the moon, baby, 935 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 6: Let's go by the day. 936 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 5: Let's go look at that hat, old bitcoin hat? 937 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 3: Is that what that is? 938 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 6: I've had this hat before, I had this point that's 939 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 6: had when bitcoin is like one thousand dollars scoin instead 940 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 6: of his hat. 941 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, moving on the pronunciation. 942 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 7: He had, all right, So so this fighter right once 943 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 7: walked out to Baby Shark. He was to fight Matt 944 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 7: Brown this weekend, but Matt Brown got COVID nineteen and 945 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 7: is not competing. So as of now, this man doesn't 946 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 7: have an opponent, but he does have a surname that 947 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 7: is mispronounced by a lot of people. So Cody Merrill, 948 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 7: of whom are we speaking That is Brian Barberina, Brian Barberina. 949 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 10: All right, let's see Brian Barberina. Brian Barberina, Brian Barberna. Yeah, 950 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 10: Brian Barbarna. 951 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 7: Not all athletes are as good as sport as Brian 952 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 7: Barberina Ken flow. Sometimes when we have the athletes and 953 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 7: that's a win Cody, excellent job, when we have the 954 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 7: athlete slowed down out in their names, sometimes it can 955 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 7: make the process more confusing. I've talked at length about 956 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 7: this with mm A junkies John Morgan. But in this instance, 957 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 7: when he slows it down, you clearly hear it is 958 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 7: Barbarina and not Barbarina as he has been called for 959 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 7: much of his his UFC career. 960 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 3: So right there, and I like that they're not going 961 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 3: to do the breakdown. 962 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 8: He'd be like, if I'm I am Kenny Florian. 963 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 3: You know I'm Kenny Florian, it's totally different. 964 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, your name can really and and like d C right, 965 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 7: we call him Cormier, but if you listen to his file, uh, 966 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 7: it's like Cormier. Yikes. All right, we got a big 967 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 7: show coming up this weekend. Fans are excited, obviously after 968 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 7: the UFC was dark last Saturday. It is UFC Fight Night, 969 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 7: font versus Aldo. Let's get to the main event challenge. 970 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge. Everything will do win the 971 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: main event Challenge with John Hennick and Kenny Florian podcast. 972 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 7: Oh there he is a event challenge back by popular 973 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 7: demand at the James Krause on social media, uf S 974 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,439 Speaker 7: got Coach to the Stars. James Krause, Great to see you, brother, 975 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 7: How are you. 976 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 4: I'm good man, just getting off the mats. Just got 977 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 4: beat up for twenty five minutes straight, and you know 978 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 4: that's how it goes sometimes. 979 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 7: So gro practice is in the can and now we're 980 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 7: going to get this any Florian podcast in the can. 981 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 7: Quick update on how you guys did again, Ever since 982 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 7: Kraus joined the show, you've both been in the black 983 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 7: every single week. So Kenny did win the week, albeit slightly. 984 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 7: James Krause, you were above five hundred as well, plus 985 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 7: two hundred and sixty dollars you missed on Kisa and Mishchatippa. 986 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 7: You did say you would pass on betting Michael Kisa, 987 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 7: so shouldn't really dock you there. But a good week 988 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 7: for both of you, nonetheless, and we will begin our 989 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 7: selections for this weekend. Middleweight Brendan Allen minus three sixty 990 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 7: five the favorite here as he looks to move to 991 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 7: six and one in the UFC against Chris Curtis Curtis 992 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 7: James plus two eighty making the quick turn after that 993 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,240 Speaker 7: big knockout of Phil Hawes earlier this month. 994 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 5: How do you see this one playing out? 995 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:07,919 Speaker 9: Brother? 996 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 4: I gotta tell you, guys, I'm a I'm a big 997 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 4: I'm a big Brendan Allen fan, and uh, I feel 998 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 4: like his last fight against Toriano Poona was his coming 999 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 4: out party, you know, Like I thought, I thought that 1000 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 4: fight was gonna give him some big problems. I really did. 1001 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 4: And I'm a fan of both of those guys. And 1002 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you, I thought that fight was 1003 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 4: gonna give Brendan some problems, and uh, man, I was wrong. 1004 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 4: He looked incredible. Uh you know, I know a couple 1005 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 4: of people were like questioning his his uh chin after 1006 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 4: the Strickland fight, and man, he took some big shots 1007 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 4: from Puna. Really answered all the questions that we had 1008 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 4: about him in my opinion, right, And uh, I I 1009 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 4: have to lean Brendan Allen on this, Like I think 1010 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 4: he's gonna finish here. I can see a submission. It 1011 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 4: depends on what he decides to do. If he strikes, 1012 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 4: I could definitely see it going the distance. But uh, 1013 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 4: if decide to grapple, I think he'll finish Curtis on 1014 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 4: the ground. But you know, obviously Curtis has got some power. 1015 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 4: But I think Brandon's overall game, he's I think he's 1016 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 4: better on the ground, he's better striking. I think he's 1017 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 4: got a more complete game, more ways to win the fight. 1018 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 4: And the only way I see Curtis winning is if 1019 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 4: he knocks him out. Allen showed his durability in the 1020 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 4: last fight. I just don't see it happening. His volume's 1021 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 4: a little too low for me. I really like Brendan 1022 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 4: Allen in this fight a lot. 1023 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 5: I think you set it up well. 1024 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 7: I have a lot of similar thoughts when it comes 1025 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 7: to Brendan Allen and that match up with Poona. Obviously, 1026 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,399 Speaker 7: because a lot of us here on this show, thank 1027 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 7: Khylia Poonahle Soriano. Brendan Allen, Kenny. I don't know if 1028 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 7: he's number seventeen in the world, but he's certainly on 1029 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 7: the cusp of the top fifteen. He's not ranked right now. 1030 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 7: How do you see him handling this Chris Curtis challenge 1031 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 7: this weekend? 1032 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, I think Chris Curtis showed that he can't 1033 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 8: be dangerous. Obviously hits very hard. But I agree with 1034 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 8: a lot of what James said. I think it was 1035 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 8: pretty spot on with everything. I think that Chris doesn't 1036 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 8: throw enough, he doesn't put together consistent combinations to be 1037 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 8: that much of a threat from what we've seen. Anyway, 1038 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 8: Brennan Allen, you look at his last fight, the way 1039 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 8: he put it all together. This is a guy who's 1040 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 8: now really feeling himself. He understands his weapons, he knows 1041 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,959 Speaker 8: what to use, when to use it. It's all coming 1042 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 8: together at the right time, and I think that potential 1043 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 8: that we saw early on is now kind of being 1044 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 8: realized here. 1045 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 3: Brendan Allen should win that. 1046 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 7: Fight, and he's even learned in some wins against Kyle Daccas, 1047 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 7: maybe got tested more than he thought he would that night. 1048 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 7: So a lot of people here bullish on Brendan Allen. 1049 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,760 Speaker 7: Will see how it goes for him against Chris Curtis 1050 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 7: all right, also on the main card. About that got 1051 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 7: a two month delay, initially scheduled for October second, fourteen 1052 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 7: versus thirteen In the light heavyweight division, Jimmy Cruton minus 1053 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 7: one to eighty and Jamal Hill plus one fifty five. 1054 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 7: So James Crude is back for the first time since 1055 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 7: that foot drop incident against Anthony Smith at UFC two 1056 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 7: to sixty one in April, still just twenty five years 1057 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 7: old and obviously has shown a lot of promise. 1058 00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 5: He's favored here against Jamal Hill. 1059 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, yeah, I listen. I like Jimmy Crude a lot. 1060 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 4: There's a couple of things that scare me in this matchup. 1061 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,439 Speaker 4: I feel like as the fight progresses, I like Crew 1062 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 4: more and more. But Dude, Jamal Hill is an animal 1063 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 4: for for around a round and a half, and I'm 1064 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 4: not saying he's bad after that, but like, his best 1065 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 4: work is done inside the first five minutes in my opinion, 1066 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 4: And uh, if Krewt smart fights a smart fight, I 1067 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 4: think he's gonna I think he's gonna take this fight 1068 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 4: to the ground. And Uh, if I'm Jimmy krup or 1069 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 4: if I'm Jimmy Cruch's coach, I say, hey, listen, let's 1070 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 4: go out. Let's get ahold of his body. Put him 1071 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 4: on the fence in a round one, really settle him 1072 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 4: into the fight. And uh, take that open matt explosive 1073 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 4: striking away a little bit. Just take the danger factor 1074 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,919 Speaker 4: down right, because as the fight plays out, the danger 1075 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 4: factor will get less and less on the Jamal Hill 1076 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 4: side to where Crewe is by far the superior grappler, 1077 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 4: superior wrestler. But at range, Hill can knock anybody out, 1078 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 4: you know, so uh, I have to lean Jimmy Crue. 1079 00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 4: I think he's got more ways to win this fight. 1080 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 4: Sometimes his volume is a little low for my liking, 1081 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 4: and sometimes he uh. I don't want to say he 1082 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 4: doesn't fight smart, but sometimes it takes him a minute 1083 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,479 Speaker 4: to kick in, like he has to get hit first. 1084 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 4: Sometimes I don't like that. In this fight, I don't 1085 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 4: like that ball. I am gonna take Jimmy Crude in 1086 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 4: this In this fight, I think he is gonna get 1087 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 4: it done. I think he's gonna fight smart. And I 1088 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,280 Speaker 4: don't know if I see this from going the distance 1089 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 4: or not. I can see I can see a knockout 1090 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 4: by Hill in round one or submission by Crewe and 1091 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 4: in the later rounds. But I am going to take Jimmy. 1092 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 5: Crut in this fight, all right. 1093 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 7: James Krause likes Jimmy Crue. Jamal Hill can flow, thirty 1094 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 7: years old, has also shown a lot of promise in 1095 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 7: his own right and showed a lot of toughness in 1096 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 7: not tapping out against Paul Craig. Some valuable experience game 1097 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 7: that night as well. Your thoughts on Hill and Crude 1098 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 7: you here big fight at two oh. 1099 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 8: Five, listen to another great breakdown by James. I think 1100 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 8: that you know, for Jamal, he's going to be very 1101 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 8: dangerous on the feet, and he's going to be very 1102 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 8: dangerous early on. You know, his length, his ability to 1103 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 8: put together good combination sharp strikes, accurate strikes might be 1104 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 8: a problem for Jimmy, who sometimes makes it a tough 1105 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 8: man battle out there at times. Anyway, early earlier in 1106 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 8: his career we saw that. So he's got to be 1107 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,399 Speaker 8: careful just getting into trading battles with someone like Hill, 1108 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 8: otherwise it could be over quickly. Jimmy is a sharp 1109 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 8: striker himself, but he has to make sure that he's 1110 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 8: staying self, staying staying defensively sound himself throughout those exchanges. 1111 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 8: But like James said, the easiest path to victory here 1112 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 8: is via the takedown. Get Jamal to the ground where 1113 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 8: he can you know, land some ground and pound from 1114 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 8: superior positioning and possibly lock up a submission. You know, 1115 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 8: that's where we saw Hill Falter in his last fight. 1116 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 8: Even though he was on top. Craig, of course phenomenal 1117 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 8: from his guard, was attacking NonStop. But I think that Jimmy, 1118 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 8: if he does get on top, get him to the mat, 1119 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 8: he'll have a you know, a much better advantage throughout 1120 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 8: the fight if he's able to do that consistently round 1121 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 8: after round. 1122 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 7: So I like Jimmy krut here as well. All right, 1123 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 7: big fight, excited to call it. Next one also fairly 1124 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 7: lodge at lightweight, forty one year old Leonardo Santos competing 1125 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 7: for the second time in a calendar year, for the 1126 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 7: first time since twenty fifteen. 1127 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 5: James, you know this guy well. 1128 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 7: Obviously he was knocked out by your guy, Grant Dawson 1129 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,839 Speaker 7: in March, and remarkably that was his first UFC loss. Here, 1130 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 7: he's a minus one ninety five favorite against the still 1131 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 7: not yet forty Clay Guida. What do you think, James, 1132 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 7: who wins Guida or Santos. 1133 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you, this one scares me 1134 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 4: a little bit. I mean, all the indicators would would 1135 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 4: point to Santos winning this fight, right, Like his takedown 1136 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 4: defense is extremely underrated and still really good. You know, 1137 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 4: his takedown defense. If Dawston can't get you down, you 1138 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like Grant got him down at it. 1139 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 4: It took him, I think, you know, twelve and a 1140 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 4: half minutes or whatever to get him down. Man, Dawson 1141 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 4: can wrestle, and I know it's a little different, but 1142 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 4: I could see Gwea just like outworking him out, voluming, 1143 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 4: voluming him. And uh, I do think Santos is gonna 1144 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 4: win this fight, but but he's he's getting older, his 1145 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 4: volume is starting to drop a little bit, his cardio 1146 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,240 Speaker 4: isn't once what it was. I don't see Gueda getting 1147 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 4: him down, but I could just see, like you know 1148 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 4: how you have that little uh. And I don't mean 1149 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 4: any disrespect to to Clay's just the analogy that came 1150 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 4: up to me that you know, the little tuaa that's 1151 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 4: like this in and out like I could see Clay. 1152 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 4: You know, he's one fights doing that before. And I 1153 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,280 Speaker 4: love Clay by the way, Like it's not any disrespect 1154 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 4: to him, of course I could see. I could see 1155 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,280 Speaker 4: him in and out, Uh, you know, take down, back up, takedown, 1156 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 4: back up, just out working Santos. I could see that happening. 1157 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 4: I like Santos's power, I like his takedown the fence, 1158 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,800 Speaker 4: I like his submission danger. Uh. I don't like his volume. 1159 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 4: I don't like the the age, even though I'm sure 1160 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 4: they're probably similar. Clay he does not fight like he's 1161 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 4: as his age. Uh. And and and I'm gonna I'm 1162 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,879 Speaker 4: gonna lean Santos, but I don't, I'm not. I don't. 1163 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 4: I don't feel great about it, you know what I mean? Like, 1164 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 4: I'm not like I could see, you know, just picking 1165 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 4: at him and scoring points and you know, doing what 1166 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:16,879 Speaker 4: Clay does? 1167 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:17,320 Speaker 2: You know? 1168 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 4: But I I am gonna take Santos here. 1169 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 7: The question is, will I be dropping your chihuahua analogy 1170 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 7: on live Television's. 1171 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 8: Got to be ready, Bloody Elbow dot Com is gonna 1172 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 8: be like James Krause calls Clay and are you ready 1173 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 8: for that? 1174 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,800 Speaker 3: Are you ready for that title? 1175 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 9: James? 1176 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 4: No, Clay knows better. I'll text him and tell him mother, 1177 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 4: I love. He's been so many people like that, you 1178 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like I didn't mean it in 1179 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 4: a obviously, but dude, how many how many people? Has 1180 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 4: he done that too? Though? 1181 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 7: I think it's a perfect analogy, and that's why I'm 1182 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 7: probably gonna have no choice but to use it on 1183 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 7: the air, I think. All right, and we have so 1184 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 7: much love for Clay on this broadcast, despite the fact 1185 00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 7: that he is immortalized getting choked nearly on cop right 1186 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 7: behind him. All right, little history on this fight because 1187 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 7: it's interesting for me and Ken Flow. We called Santos's 1188 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 7: UFC debut together in Fort Deleasa in twenty thirteen. You 1189 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 7: got the history with Claig Guita. You fought him in 1190 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 7: two thousand and nine. It was UFC one oh seven. 1191 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 7: Absolutely destroyed him, as of course, is immortalized on the 1192 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 7: wall behind you. But Guida's fought twenty one times in 1193 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 7: the UFC since you fought him. Thirty second UFC appearance 1194 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,439 Speaker 7: for Claiy Guita, who turns forty four days after the fight. 1195 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 7: Hattie handicap his chances here against Leonardo Santos. 1196 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,839 Speaker 8: Ken Flow, Yeah, this is a tough one to break down, James, 1197 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,800 Speaker 8: I agree. You know, Leonardo Santos was like one of 1198 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 8: the guys that I really looked up to in the 1199 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 8: jiu jitsu world for a long time. Was one of 1200 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 8: the guys who brought a lot of popularity to the 1201 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 8: Butterfly Guard back in the day. Just one of the 1202 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 8: Nobu Unyal black belt legends for sure, and now has 1203 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 8: had success here in the UFC as well and made 1204 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 8: great strides with his striking, you know, since we called 1205 00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 8: his debut, and Clay is an absolute savage and a 1206 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 8: guy who if you're not able to get his rhythm, 1207 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 8: he's gonna give you a problem. 1208 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 3: Man. 1209 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 8: He moves weird, he's unorthodox, He'll hit you from weird angles. 1210 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 8: You know, He'll keep you guessing with his takedowns and 1211 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,839 Speaker 8: things like that. And his work rate is his durability 1212 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 8: is second to none. So this is a very difficult fight. 1213 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 8: Leonardo Santos. We see him fade sometimes. You know, he 1214 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 8: can go from landing the sickest combinations and having the 1215 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 8: best round to looking lost in the next round and 1216 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 8: kind of out of it and not focused. So he's 1217 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 8: gonna have to be extremely focused because what we do 1218 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 8: know is that Clay Gweda is gonna be in his 1219 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 8: face for every second of every round. And you know what, 1220 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 8: I kind of like the underdog here. I think Leonardo 1221 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 8: Santos probably has more ways to win. However, I think 1222 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,959 Speaker 8: Claig Gweda is the more consistent guy, and I'm gonna 1223 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 8: go with Clay here for the upset. 1224 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 7: Just like a little fucking chihuaa right barking in your 1225 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 7: face all night, you just can't get away exactly. 1226 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 3: And I thought he. 1227 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 8: Wanted that last fight against Mark Matts and I took close, 1228 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 8: but from being honest, I thought he beat Matts and 1229 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 8: so you know he's he's had some tough decisions go 1230 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 8: the other way. 1231 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, comine event. What a matchup it is 1232 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 7: at lightweight. Raphael Phazibe minus one twenty. Brad Reddell is 1233 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 7: the even money underdog. We'll take the round and the 1234 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 7: method of victory fellas if you do have it. So 1235 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 7: Fhaziva has won four in a row since he got 1236 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 7: knocked out in his UFC debut by Maga bed Mustafaiev. 1237 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 7: Last win certainly tested against Bobby Green. That was UFC 1238 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,439 Speaker 7: two sixty five in August, and he is a slight 1239 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 7: favorite here against the man Brad Riddell James Krausudi Hip. 1240 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 4: This is another tough one. I will say this. The 1241 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 4: player that I like here is the over I love 1242 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 4: the over here. Both these guys are extremely durable. Uh. 1243 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 4: What I see happening is I think Fazev is gonna 1244 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 4: win a very close decision. 1245 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 6: Uh. 1246 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 4: For me to play, the play is gonna be is 1247 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 4: the over though, and I don't see Physique finishing Riddell. 1248 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 4: I could potentially see Redell finishing Physique by knockout, but 1249 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 4: Redell has just shown, Oh my good, like, how durable 1250 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 4: is this guy? Like, I mean, he's this extremely durable. 1251 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 4: I do think Bazzib is the cleaner, better kickboxer though, 1252 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 4: and uh, I don't think he's gonna get knocked out here. 1253 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 4: But but for me, the play is the over on 1254 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 4: this one. 1255 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 6: Uh. 1256 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 4: And then maybe sprinkle Phayzie by decision. 1257 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 6: Uh. 1258 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 4: And and if you guys are feeling froggy, Reddell by 1259 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 4: knockout a little play there too, you know. Uh yeah, 1260 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 4: but I'm gonna go with Physie by decision. I think 1261 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 4: it's a close fight. But for me, the play is 1262 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 4: the over or or even the fight goes the distance 1263 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 4: if if the odds should be. 1264 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,440 Speaker 5: Better on that right. 1265 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 7: And again, a lot of those propositions round props are 1266 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 7: out now, they will all be out later in. 1267 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 5: The week of that I can assure you. 1268 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 4: And that would be one of my biggest plays of 1269 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 4: the week. I don't know the odds yet, so the 1270 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 4: props usually come out a couple of days before the fights. 1271 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 4: But at face value, the over in that fight, I 1272 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 4: gotta think that it's gonna be low because they're both 1273 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 4: heavy hitters, right like, so I gotta think it's going 1274 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 4: to be fairly low. Good odds for us, But I 1275 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 4: really like the over in that in that fight. Not 1276 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 4: only do I like the over, I like it to 1277 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 4: go the distance. 1278 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 7: All right, no total yet as of this taping, but uh, 1279 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 7: that will be updated on our social channels later in 1280 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 7: the week. Kenny Brad Riddell has had to deal with 1281 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 7: a lot, as has been the case for a lot 1282 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 7: of our athletes based in Australia and New Zealand. He's 1283 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 7: been displaced from his child extensively. Right, Dan Hooker has 1284 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 7: gotten a lot of that shine, but Riddell and others 1285 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 7: have had to deal with hell. 1286 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 3: You know. 1287 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 7: He's had fights go away at the last minute, right 1288 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 7: the Greater Gillespie fight, but yet still is performing. He's 1289 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 7: four and on the UFC and rank now after dominating 1290 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 7: Drew Dover. That was UFC two sixty three back in June, 1291 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 7: your thoughts on Riddell here in a huge spot against 1292 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 7: Rafael Phazi, Yeah, and lost. 1293 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 8: To teammate, you know, as did all those guys over 1294 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 8: at City Kickboxing. So yeah, he isn't a tough spot, 1295 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 8: and I think that's something to consider. Something else to consider, however, 1296 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 8: is the fact that Brad Redell was the Multai coach 1297 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 8: for Rafael Physiva. Apparently at one point they trained a 1298 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 8: lot in Thailand. I wonder if there's a big brother 1299 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 8: type equation there where, you know, if you're fighting a 1300 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 8: coach or a guy who has been a mentor, where 1301 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 8: you can be kind of playing second fiddle out there. 1302 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 3: So I wonder if that's gonna be a factor. 1303 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 8: I think that both men are phenomenal strikers, and because 1304 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,439 Speaker 8: it's so close here, not that I gain any extra 1305 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 8: points necessarily, I don't think. 1306 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 3: But I kind of like the underdog here. I like Riddell. 1307 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 8: I think physique is a big time problem, but so 1308 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 8: is Riddell. He's as durable as they come. I don't 1309 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 8: think grappling is going to be you know, thrown into 1310 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,919 Speaker 8: the equation here. These guys are standing on their feet 1311 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 8: and going to see who the better striker is. I 1312 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 8: could see it going either way, but I'm just gonna 1313 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,840 Speaker 8: lean with the underdog here just because of the odds. 1314 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 7: Redell by decision, Ken Flow, yes, sir, all right, all right, 1315 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 7: main event. I don't pre screen these, so I have 1316 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 7: no idea on which side these fellas fall. Rob Font 1317 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 7: midas one fifty Jose Aldo plus one point thirty. So 1318 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 7: Aldo gets the blue corner here based upon ranking, but 1319 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 7: of course in most equations he is the A side 1320 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 7: not favorite here though, James rob Font gets that distinction 1321 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 7: having won his last four and all of them quality wins. 1322 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 7: Right Sergio Pettis, Ricky Simone, Marlon but Ice, and then 1323 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 7: Cody Garbrant in a five round main event in May 1324 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 7: twenty second that served to set up this one. Font 1325 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 7: the favorite, Aldo the dog. James Krouse. On which side 1326 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 7: do you fall? 1327 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 3: Brother? 1328 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 4: Another tough one. If this was three rounds, I would 1329 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,439 Speaker 4: go I would go Al though, but because it's five, 1330 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Font, That's what. 1331 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, interesting, I'm gonna go find This is a tough one. 1332 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 9: Man. 1333 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 4: I don't feel like Dodd, I don't feel like dwads 1334 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 4: are right on this one. I really don't. Uh man, although, 1335 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 4: god man, he's just like, look at who's There's not 1336 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 4: a lot of guys that have beat him, you know 1337 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 4: what I mean. Like he's beat by some of the 1338 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 4: elite of the of the division, you know, and it's 1339 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 4: just it's really tough to bet against a guy like him. 1340 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 4: But Font, to me, I've been on the Rob Font 1341 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 4: bandwagon for years before anybody knew who he was. Him 1342 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 4: and I fought on the same card together. He fought 1343 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 4: uh Douglas the Silva or Silva de Andrage. Yeah, the 1344 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 4: same night I thought Tom Glickio and I've been I've 1345 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 4: I've been watching him since before that. I've heard passed 1346 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 4: one before. I've been on the Rob Font bandwagon. I 1347 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not getting off right now. I do 1348 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 4: think this fight is a little bit closer on the 1349 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:37,640 Speaker 4: odds than what's uh then what's shown. Uh, I'm gonna 1350 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 4: go Font. 1351 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 5: Bye decision, Font by decision. Yeah, I mean I thought 1352 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 5: it would be a pick and fight. 1353 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 7: Rob fonn is minus one fifty, so a little bit 1354 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 7: more pronounced than I forecasted. 1355 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,919 Speaker 5: Rob Font is thirty four, Jose Auto thirty five. 1356 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 7: By the way, Kenny fought Jose Auto when he was 1357 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 7: twenty five years of age, still very dangerous, and Kenny 1358 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 7: in some ways he's better, right like in some ways 1359 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 7: Aldo is better than he was. 1360 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 4: Why are you bringing up both stuff? John? 1361 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 7: I know, and I just have to say for Rob 1362 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 7: Font right right, born in Leminster, Massachusetts, fights out of 1363 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 7: fucking Wooburn, mass New England. Cattel huge spot in the 1364 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 7: main event here against Jose Aldo, as beloved as anybody 1365 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 7: on the roster, Ken Flow, Aldo Font men on the 1366 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 7: marquee who wins the main event and how. 1367 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 3: This is a tough one. 1368 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 8: Rob Font first of all, doing a great job of 1369 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 8: putting New England, putting Massachusetts on the map. You look 1370 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 8: at his last four fights, I mean, look at the 1371 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 8: guy that he's beaten, Sergio Pettis, who's now you know, 1372 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 8: the world champ over in Bellator, Ricky Simone, Marlon Morays, 1373 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 8: Cody Garbrandt, all savages, you know. And you look at 1374 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 8: the improvements he's made technically, you know, mentally, you know, 1375 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 8: conditioning wise, he's firing in all cylinders and he's going 1376 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 8: to be extremely difficult beat. However, he is fighting a 1377 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 8: guy in Jose Aldo, who is showing that he is 1378 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 8: still getting better and he still has a ton of 1379 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 8: tricks up his sleeves. Now, if you look at the 1380 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 8: guys that have beaten him, you know, Pyotr Jaan Malon Maris, 1381 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 8: I thought, although won that fight Volkanowski. You know these 1382 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 8: are all you know, championship level or champions in the 1383 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 8: respective divisions who are doing this. So you know, Rob 1384 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 8: Font is certainly on that or on the path to 1385 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 8: becoming that. 1386 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 3: Is he there yet? I don't know. 1387 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 8: I think we'll find out if he's able to beat 1388 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 8: someone like Josie Aldo, then watch the hell out. 1389 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1390 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,920 Speaker 8: I think Aldo still has enough up his sleeve to 1391 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 8: win a decision here. And we also can't forget Josi 1392 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 8: Aldo is a high level Brazilian jutsu black belt. He 1393 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 8: may put Font on his back and try to take 1394 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 8: the fight to the ground and look for superior positioning 1395 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 8: and look for a submission. We saw him take that 1396 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 8: path against Cheeto Vera, so he may do the same 1397 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 8: and mix things up and keep Font guessing. I don't 1398 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 8: think that would be a terrible strategy here. I think 1399 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 8: we kind of forget about Jose and his grappling skills. 1400 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 8: He's so good on the feet that we forget that 1401 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 8: he comes from, you know, one of the best Brazilians. 1402 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 3: Camps in the world in Nobunal. 1403 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:25,040 Speaker 8: So I like Aldo here. Can he get the submission? Yes, 1404 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 8: but I think that's gonna come down to a decision. 1405 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 8: Jose Aldo does enough to get the win, but he 1406 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 8: has to watch out, just like you know James was saying, 1407 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 8: and Ray was saying, you got to watch out in 1408 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 8: that fourth and fifth round. That's where Rob fought may 1409 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 8: be saving it a little bit and start to turn 1410 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 8: it on where we've seen Jose Aldo start to lose it. 1411 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 3: So Jose has to recognize that at this point. 1412 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 8: I would think he's got to be prepared for that 1413 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 8: strategy and to be ready for that onslaught late in 1414 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 8: the fight. I think he will be and be able 1415 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 8: to survive. I like Jose here in this fight to 1416 01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 8: win by decision. 1417 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 7: I can't tell you how enjoyable it is for me 1418 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 7: to hear you two fellas go back and forth. Hopefully 1419 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 7: the listeners feel the same way at the James Krause 1420 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 7: on social media, if you want more, Are you on 1421 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 7: the road this weekend? 1422 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 5: Where are you headed? 1423 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 9: Nope? 1424 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 4: Home? 1425 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:12,280 Speaker 9: Wow? 1426 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 7: Here we go, well, enjoy the uh the great state 1427 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 7: of Missouri? Or are you in Kansas? 1428 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 5: I always get nobody's on the city. 1429 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,440 Speaker 7: Oh my god, no, I remember Brian Stan and I 1430 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 7: crossed the border at one point because he had to 1431 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 7: get his legs waxed and pay off a bet. We 1432 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,040 Speaker 7: couldn't find somebody in Missouri to wax a man's legs. 1433 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 7: We had to go to Kansas. 1434 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 9: So there you have. 1435 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 7: Hey, yeah, all right, the show me state. Hey, good stuff. 1436 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 7: As always, brother, We'll talk to you a big, big 1437 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,200 Speaker 7: pay per view coming up next week, So we'll talk 1438 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 7: to you next week. 1439 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 4: Thanks guys there. 1440 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 5: He is absolutely love. 1441 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 7: Having James Krause on this program every week. I really 1442 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 7: do and uh and he is going to be with 1443 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 7: us throughout twenty twenty two as well. And I gotta 1444 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 7: think font Daldo kind of like the ultimate win for 1445 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 7: Ken Flow a little bit right, because I know you 1446 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 7: got a place in your hot jose Aaldo. But if 1447 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 7: the fucking lemonster kid off, he can come through. I mean, 1448 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 7: are you kidding me? And if you'd be a champ 1449 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:13,240 Speaker 7: that the chihuahua analogy, it's not like a uh, I 1450 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 7: think it's a shot at all. Like I am gonna 1451 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 7: make that comparison on the air a lot of times 1452 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,599 Speaker 7: during those data fights to make those comparisons. And by 1453 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 7: the way, Rob Font had COVID nineteen and had he not, 1454 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 7: he might have gotten that opportunity to fight Pyodriana on 1455 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 7: Fight Island instead of Corey Sandhagen. Now could be a 1456 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 7: case of be careful what you wish for, or Rob 1457 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 7: Font could be an interim UFC Bantamway champion already. Either way, 1458 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,519 Speaker 7: the biggest fight of his life is coming up and 1459 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 7: it's in about five more sleep. 1460 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 3: Sorry. 1461 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 7: If you want merchandise to support the show, you can 1462 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,599 Speaker 7: do that Anti Florian podcast dot com special promo right now. 1463 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 7: Code is fam fifteen gets you fifteen percent off Anti 1464 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 7: florin podcast dot Com. 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We 1471 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 7: are back with you next Monday to preview the Monster 1472 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 7: that is UFC two sixty nine oli Era Versus Pourier. 1473 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 7: Until then for Ken Flum, John Anna, thank you all 1474 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 7: for listening, for watching. Tell your friends you'll fucking later. 1475 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm Royal Oaks next time. On Too Many Lawyers, we 1476 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,760 Speaker 1: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether 1477 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 1: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a 1478 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 1: seat in Congress by lying to voters, but is that 1479 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 1: a crime? And Kanye West made it clear he hates 1480 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 1: Jews in England. 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