WEBVTT - Divorce, Debt, and Divided - The Big D 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.640 Welcome back to I Do Part two. It's your favorite 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:24.520 golden goal. Susan Knowles and Kathy Schwartz. We're stepping in 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.720 and we love being here on I Do Part two. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.520 We certainly do. It's not our first time. Hey, everybody, 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:36.120 welcome back. Today. We've got to unpack all the divorce 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.520 related news in the headlines here. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.320 Oh got it. There's so many people, what the hell 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.959 is in its holiday time and everyone's getting divorced telling. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:49.200 It's either some people pass away or they're announcing separations 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.600 and divorces. I can't win, all right, So let's talk 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:53.840 right about this one. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.320 Let's start jump right in. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.680 Jerry O'Connell and John Stamos taking a selfie together. Now 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:01.520 that's news. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.199 Okay, okay, but wait, let's talk about it. I mean 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:15.440 they were Jerry O'Connell was is married now to Rebecca Romain. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:20.080 He okay, Stamos was married to Rebecca Romaine years ago, Like, 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.960 can we please get over it? Can we? 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:24.160 Well? 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.760 He did want to read his memoir. That was like 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:27.600 a big deal. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:32.920 Okay, wait, wait, I gotta say I think Jerry O'Connell 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:38.319 not reading Stamus John Stamis's memoir is brilliant. Look what 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:42.520 has gone on with our season with Gary Turner and 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:48.200 his memoir and Teresa like, it's just mud slinging. So 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.880 I think probably a good point. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.560 One's on one podcast, bad mounted the other because she 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:56.440 don't know what's in the book yet. I mean, it 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.760 goes on and on. But these two, okay, right of this, 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:07.000 actually I think make amends. And of course Mandel takes 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:07.760 all the credit. 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.320 Well because Howie Mandel had the party. But wait a minute, 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:17.280 John Stamos had a dui in twenty fifteen. Okay, your kids. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.560 You know we we as parents, we've been down that 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:26.120 road with our kids. Here's the thing. John Stamos blamed Romaine, 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:31.080 he blamed his Yeah, hated her like it's her fault. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.480 What did she do inject the alcohol into his vein? 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:36.919 So I have a problem with that. But here's the thing. 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:44.160 I love that they've came together. It just shows you 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:49.520 that you can get it together, you can finally come back. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:54.400 I think Stamos admitting eventually that he had some part 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.119 of play in the split, and he started he even 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:02.200 had quote she wasn't the maybe I was as much 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:03.200 to blame as her. 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:09.760 Finally, Susan the operative word. Maybe I'm going to go with, yes, 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:15.120 you were. But you know what, here's the deal. Divorce sucks, 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:19.480 it happens. It happens for a reason. I think that 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:26.359 uh O'Connell shared some words. He said, you know, gorgeous 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:31.040 family and gorgeous people. And the picture has John Stamos 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:35.200 on one side, the lovely lady in the middle, and 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.320 O'Connell on the side. So you know what is it? 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.840 All's well? That ends well? Is that? What is that? 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:41.400 Where we are? 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.080 Do you agree that Jerry was standing up for his 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.320 wife by not reading the memoir or what are your 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.640 thoughts on that? Because people are saying you know this, 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:51.480 that and the third? 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.240 I think, what do you think it was he was? 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:59.760 I mean, that's his wife, he's talk trash. He don't 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:03.800 know what's in that reading it. I believe he was 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:04.920 standing up for his one. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.600 Well, now you know, you and I always agree and disagree, 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:12.240 and here we're gonna I'm going to go with it's 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:16.040 like he couldn't be bothered reading it. I mean, he 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.560 just could not be bothered to read it. Is it 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.560 stand up for his wife? Maybe? I mean I would 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.760 like to think that is the case. He's got a 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.920 golf game at six, and he had to choose between 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.359 reading the book. He had to read the book or 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:30.080 go golfing. 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.240 I don't know, Howie. You can take the credit if 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.240 he wants, since you had the party, I'm really happy 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.200 that they all did this finally. 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:43.559 Can I just say it took a little bit of time, 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.080 So thank you, Howie Mandel. The only problem I have? 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.360 You know the problem I have, Susan. Yeah, he didn't 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:51.440 invite us to his birthday. 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.359 Bring you together with somebody. 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:59.480 Let's go through. Okay, so the picture, it's for all 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.880 of us to see. We've got John Stamos on the right, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.240 we got Caitlin in the middle, and we have Jerry 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.920 O'Connor on the left. It is out there forever and 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.360 a day. The three are now friends at. 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:13.960 Least that we can all smiling. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.440 And that is the point. All right. We got to 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.200 move on to my favorite couple, and I'm it's actually 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:27.279 the saddest one. Susan. Nicole Kidman shares her personal update 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.880 amid keith urban divorce. Let's talk about that. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:36.640 One can tell you how shocked I thought they were 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.800 like the perfect little couple. I'm serious. 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:44.320 Tell me why because they're just perfect together, and she's 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:45.760 feeling like she. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.000 Keeps a low profile. She doesn't want a lot of 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:50.479 people to know her business. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:54.760 They're talking about she's an oscar winner. She's more famous than. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.000 Profile about her marriage and her home life. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:02.120 Okay, let me just say these two were married almost 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:06.679 twenty years. They have two children together. They're both fifty 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.160 eight years old. They have two girls, a seventeen year 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.760 old and a fourteen year old. I don't know about you, Susan, 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.440 but the last thing I wanted would be to have 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.240 a child at forty one and at forty five. And 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.440 she has two kids from Tom Cruise, who I think 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:28.279 in their thirties. So let's talk about what that is like. 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.520 All, look at my daughter had one. Later, When you're 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.840 with a second husband and they want a child, you 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:36.280 do it. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.280 Okay, well you do it. I'm not. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.280 I'm all happy for you, but would do it. 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.080 I'll tell you. Okay, But here's the thing. I've done 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:50.120 a little research, and I love I mean, Big Little Eyes, 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:54.080 my favorite TV show. I think Nicole Kidman is such 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.040 a talented actress. I love that she's taller than he is, 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.880 and she wore it proudly all those things. But if 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:07.360 you look back, he credits Keith Urban, credits Nicole Kidman 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.920 with his recovery. He has been sober I think since 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.360 like two thousand and five, two thousand and six, a 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:18.120 long time, And he credits Nicole. She's been the glue 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:22.680 of that family, and any of us strong women know 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.440 what it's like to be the glue for our family. 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.320 Right, women are the blue women have the strength. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:34.560 Okay, so let's talk about that. What do you think happened? 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:39.000 Because the rumors are that he's dating some guitarist named 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:40.400 Maggie in his bad. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.360 How about him changing the words to a song that what? 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:44.520 That took me back? 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.120 I know, but the rumors have it. You know, if 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:53.760 you read the sheets that he's had, he's he's dipped. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.280 What's the expression, he's dabbled on the other side, you know, 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.280 he's had a few affairs whatever. I don't want to say. Yeah, 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.600 I think before Why do you think it? Because that's 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.840 what I read in the tabloids, and and everything in 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:07.800 the tabloids is true. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.600 You know that we don't think we read or see 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.520 on social media. But I love that they're in agreement 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:15.600 of the custody, like. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:20.040 She's not excuse me, agreement, she's got the kids. Let's 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.240 count the days sick days. Yeah, and he gets them 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.480 fifty nine. So what does that tell you? Is his 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.320 copybook clean? I don't think so. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:33.600 They mutually signed off on a proposal that she gets 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.800 them three hundred and six days and he gets them 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.400 fifty nine. He's probably touring making music, you know what 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:39.880 I'm saying. 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:43.200 So you're excusing him not being a good parent because 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:43.760 he's touring. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.480 On me say it was not being a good parent. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:51.120 But on old school, most most of the time children 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:52.280 belong with their mothers. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:58.160 Well, well most of the time, not all, Susan, are 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:03.440 you really we're gonna disagree this early end in this podcast. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.360 You don't believe in the fifty to fifty rule, and 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:13.280 sometimes I do, yes, I always believe a dad is 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.120 as important in a child's life. 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:19.319 Dads don't have the time that moms do. All all though, today. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.040 I'm sorry, Nicole, I'm sorry, Susan, I got to interrupt 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:27.360 to you. Nicole Kidman, I would argue, is a bigger 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.560 star than Keith Urban. She works, she is an Oscar winner, 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.280 she's got shows, she's got movies. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:39.800 But when someone says they mutually signed off on an agreement, 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.600 he agreed to it, Kathy, So why would you like that. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:50.960 He agreed Susan clearly? Okay for all y'all listening. Susan, 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.160 as you know, is divorced from her husband, Dicky Knowles, 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.439 and they had a very easy time of their divorce. 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:03.240 They agreed on most things. Newsfly. Most people don't have 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:08.439 quite that amenable a divorce. And I'm guessing, I am 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:13.760 guessing that Keith, there's probably some This is just the 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:18.920 world according to Kathy. But you know, Kathy's always right. Always. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:25.640 I think that there were there was some infidelity going 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.760 on over the time of their marriage, not just now. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.160 And I think the fact that Keith and Nicholl's kids 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:37.400 are almost grown, they're getting there, that she said enough 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.520 is enough. And I don't blame her if that's the case, 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.800 If infidelity is the deal, I don't blame her for, 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:45.680 you know, for saying see you later. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.520 And we're still in the same city, not in the 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:49.520 same house. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.559 Right, so it's easy for the kids to go back 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.880 and forth. But I got to say to you, you 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.679 and I you know, I'm a hopeful romantic you're a 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:58.760 hopeless romantic. 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.400 Wait were you? 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.600 Yes? Did you not see this guy? When Keith Urban 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.880 gets his awards, he looks over at her, dreamy eyed 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.880 and says, you know all to my beautiful wife, Nicole, 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.760 And she sits there demure, blinking her eyes, her little 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.520 doe eyes. I'm like, these two are going to put 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.440 Hollywood to shame. They're going to make it forever. 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.640 It's sad. It's so sad. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.920 It's so sad. Oh god, what's next. I don't even 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:34.160 know Rachel, Rachel Zoe. Oh gosh, and get them filtered. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:39.560 But I loved her honesty and she says, I feel 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:43.840 different on every level. And she's very honest about what 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:50.560 she's dealing with. Okay, Bravo hit Rachel's project. Okay, we 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:54.480 know that about her. She said, my goal is really 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:58.760 to share the reality of my life and everyone's going 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.520 through stuff. Isn't that true? 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.600 Everybody's going through stuff. I got a bad haircut, I'm 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:09.160 going through bad haircut. Here's the deal with Rachel. This 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:15.360 is a direct quote. She is divorcing Roger Berman. She says, quote, 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:22.920 I'm independent financially, professionally, and socially. And she says that 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.280 is important for a woman, no matter and I don't 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:30.360 not sure if she said this or some podcast she 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:35.520 was on. She says, no matter what life throws at you, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.800 you have to be able to stand up on your own. 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.640 Let me let me take issue that for one second. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.640 One more thing that she quote, I quote, you have 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.559 to have your own things to wake up for every day, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.240 so you can't count on a man for your life. 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.600 You have don't do it for yourself, and then you 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.960 join somebody's life. I get it. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:03.080 I agree. Now that's Hollywood. Let's talk reality. Rachel is 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:07.920 a very successful TV star. She has made a lot 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.800 of money. She will continue, She's going back to reality TV. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:17.280 This is a woman who has resources. So while I 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:23.600 agree with her that every woman should be independent financially, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:27.959 professionally and socially, that's not always the case, is it. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.440 Not all women are now some women depend on. 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.239 Their husbands financially. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:35.400 Totally different. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:41.640 Divorce so well, but many divorces. I'm saying, in Hollywood, 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.760 sometimes you have two power a power couple, right, and 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.720 they can walk away and they're arguing over you know, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.960 who gets the horse and the stables and the and 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:58.000 the maserati. I mean that that's Hollywood, but in reality, 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:04.360 women unfortunately in our society sometimes don't have the upper 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:08.120 hand because they've stayed home, they raise children. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:12.760 They have careers, absolutely, but we're talking about them and 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.480 she's fine. But she says there that she wants to 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:20.200 help other women, and her point is do your own thing, 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.840 be stable financially. But not all women have careers. It's 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:26.240 easy for her to say. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.920 That that's your singing my song, so you knows. As 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:34.360 much as I agree philosophically with her point of view, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:38.440 I struggle because life throws a lot of things and 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.520 a lot of us and women who have lots of 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.160 kids who haven't had the education or haven't had the 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:51.960 luck to have a great career, they are unfortunately must 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.280 rely on the good either really good lawyer. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.880 Well look at mine for instance. I just said on 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:04.120 our podcast the other day that I stayed in a marriage, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.600 but we weren't really together in our house for my 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:11.280 children until they were old enough. And I'll never forget 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.240 my son saying Mom, why did you wait so long? 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.040 We know you're not happy because we didn't fight and 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.640 things like that, but I thought it was best for 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:24.040 my children to have both parents around, even though Dicky 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.800 was all playing ball, and you know, it was just 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.600 more stable. Was I right? Maybe not? 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.120 Well, let me ask you something, did you guys did 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:37.040 you guys have a pre nup? Would you have done 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.160 it now? Would you do it now? If you got 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:41.000 married again. 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:42.320 Have a prenup? 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:43.239 Yeah? 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.479 It depends on who I married. If he didn't need mine. 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:50.840 Then what. I don't know. I just I just feel 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:55.160 like in some of these marriages, one or the other 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.720 makes more money, is more famous, and I feel like 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.880 in this case, Rachel is the one with the bucks, 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:08.040 and so it's very easy to make those statements, to 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:12.160 make those statements. You know, every everybody's going through stuff. 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.840 She's going through stuff with a lot of money, a 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.120 lot of power. 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.600 Because she's died up right now and she's on the 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.400 on the good ride right now. You know what I'm saying. 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.320 If she was at the end of her career or 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.720 not having work or something, it might be a totally 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.160 different well. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:31.600 And that's I think. I think it's easy for her 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.920 to say, you have to be able to stand on 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.240 your own, you just have to. I think throw you 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.040 know a guy, let's let's say I know it never happens. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:45.080 But let's talk about a man who is has had 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.120 some infidelity. Let's say in their marriage, it never happens. 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.200 I know. But and and you know, you've got three 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.760 kids under ten and you're running the girl Scout meeting 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:59.040 because you don't you know, you don't have a career, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.040 because your career was being a mom. And I know 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.160 that today a lot of women have careers and they 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:06.320 have nanny's and all that. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:10.719 Most of Hollywood, if you will, every everyday couple you 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.440 know that work and want to stay at home mom 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:14.480 don't have a nanny. 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:19.199 So I think that exactly their kids go to daycare. 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.760 I don't know. I just think that that for her. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.280 You know, I don't even know who Roger Berman is. 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.120 That's who she's divorcing. She's the big name here, not him, 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.960 And so I think it's very easy for her to 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:32.679 walk away. 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.000 We haven't heard side, right. 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.000 But here's the thing. I bet there's more juicy details 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.200 coming Susan because he ran her business. So let's find 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:42.200 out what you know, there's. 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:52.919 Gonna be more coming out of that story. 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.000 All right, give me the next one. What do you got? 0:17:56.119 --> 0:18:00.760 And this next title is Scott Wolf Sharing of his 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:06.159 estranged wife Kelly hugging son Miller and mid their divorce. 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:07.920 Okay, what do you think about that? 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.040 And he put out the instagram all kinds of tribute 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:16.760 to Miller, who was turning thirteen on his birthday. I 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:22.520 mean he I think he did a nice He's a teenage, 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.399 A teenager now fastening our chin straps. 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:31.040 Okay, hold on, here's the thing. Scott Wolf is a guy. 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.359 I gotta be honest. I didn't watch his show. He 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:38.000 was on Party of five. But here's the news there. 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:44.520 He has got soul, physical and legal custody and the 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.760 raining order and guess what else? He has sole use 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.680 of the family home in Utah, which, by the way, Scott, 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:53.880 if you're listening, I like to ski, give me a call. 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.000 But he wished her happy birthday. This is the guy, 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.320 I think again, I don't know. I'm not an insider here. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.640 But he also had a temporary restraining order against her. 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.160 So what do you think is going on? 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.960 Why are you wishing your happy birthday and posting all 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.120 these things? If you don't want to near you. 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:17.400 I'll tell you why. My guess is Kelly has some 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:22.320 serious mental health, maybe some alcohol issues going on and 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.840 you know what, he's probably it's holiday time. He probably 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.439 feels sorry. You know, she's maybe has some addictions. I 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:34.960 my hat, I give him great props. I you know, 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:36.600 I don't know if you have any of those issues 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:40.280 in your family, But I grew up with an alcoholic stepfather. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:45.080 And it's tough and it's scary, and you know, can 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:51.320 you imagine having a child and your spouse is alcoholic? 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:55.399 Yes, addiction by what it is. But there's something, Yes, 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:59.879 there's something another twenty one, It was twenty seven years. Yeah, 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:01.600 that's a long time. 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:04.639 But so here, let me just ask you a little 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:09.959 interlude question here. How much do you think it takes 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:15.080 for someone to walk away after twenty twenty five years? 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.720 What do you think it takes? One thing? What do 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:18.440 you think happens? 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:24.600 Well, sometimes infidelity could start it, but personally, we didn't 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:26.520 each other do anything wrong. 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:28.440 We just are you right? You and Dickie? 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:34.000 Yes, we grew separately in separate ways, and my likes 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:38.360 and desires and wants and his were totally different. And 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:43.040 that's how do you keep that gown? You agree to disagree, 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.280 but then there comes a time where there's nothing in 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.440 common any right, right, that's not a good marrons. 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:53.439 So you know in my marriage, so you and are 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:55.760 that's I mean, it's so funny. We're such good friends, 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.639 but we've had such different backgrounds and we have such 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:03.560 different lives because I was married almost forty six years 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:07.000 before my husband took his life and marriage is never perfect. 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.679 But he was a great guy. We have three kids, 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.600 you know, we had the dog, the cat, the car, 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.960 the picket fence, the whole bit. And yet we had 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:17.960 issues too. 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:23.960 Of everybody does everybody. There's not a perfect relationship. You're 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:25.360 going to have disagreements. 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:30.399 But here, yeah, I agree. Here is one of the differences. 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:35.280 You and I were not and are not under a microscope. 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:41.400 Our marriages were our marriages. These people everybody's watching them. 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:46.320 Everybody's looking to see. Oh and when when when news 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.959 comes of a dui. 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:54.360 We're on TV? Everybody knows your business, like Kathy when 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:57.119 we were on TV. What how about our emails and 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:01.840 the and the messages and the statements that people write? 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:06.119 Like social media can be a bitch it really. 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:10.040 I agree. I agree social media plays a role, but 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:15.159 I think these people, if they're micro managed and micro 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:21.679 viewed every move they take and photographed and then something imagine, 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.080 you know, a guy steps out, they've got some video 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:28.879 of it. Some I don't know. I think that would 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:32.040 be hard to keep a marriage together when you're barraged 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.000 with this happened, that happened. 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.000 But then you have to if you're there, you how 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:42.760 to understand that they know. Tabloids are tabloids. You know, 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:47.120 people don't always print the truth. But I don't think 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:51.119 that's the cause of any of these new divorces. 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:52.600 You don't no. 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.960 Why we just said this one. Obviously she's having some 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:01.160 kind of an issue and he's protecting. 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:06.080 His kids kids. Yeah, I know, I do what Yeah, 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:10.480 I do feel sorry. You know, Kelly is saying he's 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.920 one of the best dads she's ever met. I think, 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.919 you know, mental health. I hate to say it, but 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.120 it plays you know, it plays a role in my family. 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:24.840 It plays a role in many families. And and I 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.760 you know, I read these headlines and I think, how 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.720 lucky are we that our life is not that public. 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:35.480 Dicky was a major League baseball player, so we were watched, 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:37.880 but nothing like being on television. 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:41.639 Well, but when you guys were married, Susan, there was 0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:46.480 not the social media the attention. I mean literally, you know, 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:52.240 the guy photographs you. It's on Instagram, It's on every. 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:53.800 Social How about it? 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.880 I don't know. I think it's got to be hard. Okay, 0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:01.200 So our next story is Candy Burris feels divorced from 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:05.320 Todd Tucker. It's been brewing for a while. That's the headline. 0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:11.480 Holy smokes and My Housewives. I gotta love this. 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.440 Okay, But how long is a while? This is what 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.119 I want to know. How long is a while? What 0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:20.080 do you think about that? Well? 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:21.840 First of all, I love the housewives? 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:27.080 Okay, Yeah, so she was on just she was on 0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:30.720 the Housewives of Atlanta I think for like fourteen seasons. 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:36.520 So she is divorcing Todd. She said that when she filed, 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.480