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Speaker 1: Welcome back to I Do Part two. It's your favorite

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Speaker 1: golden goal. Susan Knowles and Kathy Schwartz. We're stepping in

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Speaker 1: and we love being here on I Do Part two.

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Speaker 2: We certainly do. It's not our first time. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. Today. We've got to unpack all the divorce

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Speaker 2: related news in the headlines here.

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Speaker 1: Oh got it. There's so many people, what the hell

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Speaker 1: is in its holiday time and everyone's getting divorced telling.

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Speaker 2: It's either some people pass away or they're announcing separations

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Speaker 2: and divorces. I can't win, all right, So let's talk

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Speaker 2: right about this one.

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Speaker 1: Let's start jump right in.

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Speaker 2: Jerry O'Connell and John Stamos taking a selfie together. Now

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Speaker 2: that's news.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but wait, let's talk about it. I mean

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Speaker 1: they were Jerry O'Connell was is married now to Rebecca Romain.

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Speaker 1: He okay, Stamos was married to Rebecca Romaine years ago, Like,

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Speaker 1: can we please get over it? Can we?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: He did want to read his memoir. That was like

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Speaker 2: a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, wait, I gotta say I think Jerry O'Connell

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Speaker 1: not reading Stamus John Stamis's memoir is brilliant. Look what

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Speaker 1: has gone on with our season with Gary Turner and

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Speaker 1: his memoir and Teresa like, it's just mud slinging. So

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Speaker 1: I think probably a good point.

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Speaker 2: One's on one podcast, bad mounted the other because she

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Speaker 2: don't know what's in the book yet. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: goes on and on. But these two, okay, right of this,

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Speaker 2: actually I think make amends. And of course Mandel takes

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Speaker 2: all the credit.

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Speaker 1: Well because Howie Mandel had the party. But wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: John Stamos had a dui in twenty fifteen. Okay, your kids.

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Speaker 1: You know we we as parents, we've been down that

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Speaker 1: road with our kids. Here's the thing. John Stamos blamed Romaine,

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Speaker 1: he blamed his Yeah, hated her like it's her fault.

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Speaker 1: What did she do inject the alcohol into his vein?

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Speaker 1: So I have a problem with that. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I love that they've came together. It just shows you

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Speaker 1: that you can get it together, you can finally come back.

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Speaker 2: I think Stamos admitting eventually that he had some part

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Speaker 2: of play in the split, and he started he even

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Speaker 2: had quote she wasn't the maybe I was as much

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Speaker 1: Finally, Susan the operative word. Maybe I'm going to go with, yes,

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Speaker 1: you were. But you know what, here's the deal. Divorce sucks,

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Speaker 1: it happens. It happens for a reason. I think that

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Speaker 1: uh O'Connell shared some words. He said, you know, gorgeous

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Speaker 1: family and gorgeous people. And the picture has John Stamos

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Speaker 1: on one side, the lovely lady in the middle, and

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Speaker 1: All's well? That ends well? Is that? What is that?

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Speaker 1: Where we are?

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Speaker 2: Do you agree that Jerry was standing up for his

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Speaker 2: wife by not reading the memoir or what are your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on that? Because people are saying you know this,

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Speaker 2: that and the third?

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Speaker 1: I think, what do you think it was he was?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's his wife, he's talk trash. He don't

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Speaker 2: know what's in that reading it. I believe he was

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Speaker 1: Well, now you know, you and I always agree and disagree,

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Speaker 1: and here we're gonna I'm going to go with it's

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Speaker 1: stand up for his wife? Maybe? I mean I would

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Howie. You can take the credit if

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Speaker 1: Can I just say it took a little bit of time,

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Speaker 1: So thank you, Howie Mandel. The only problem I have?

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Speaker 1: You know the problem I have, Susan. Yeah, he didn't

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Speaker 2: Bring you together with somebody.

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Speaker 1: Let's go through. Okay, so the picture, it's for all

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Speaker 2: Least that we can all smiling.

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Speaker 1: And that is the point. All right. We got to

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Speaker 1: move on to my favorite couple, and I'm it's actually

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Speaker 1: the saddest one. Susan. Nicole Kidman shares her personal update

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Speaker 1: amid keith urban divorce. Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 2: One can tell you how shocked I thought they were

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Speaker 2: like the perfect little couple. I'm serious.

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Speaker 1: Tell me why because they're just perfect together, and she's

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Speaker 2: Keeps a low profile. She doesn't want a lot of

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Speaker 1: They're talking about she's an oscar winner. She's more famous than.

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Speaker 2: Profile about her marriage and her home life.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me just say these two were married almost

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Speaker 1: twenty years. They have two children together. They're both fifty

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Speaker 1: eight years old. They have two girls, a seventeen year

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Speaker 1: but the last thing I wanted would be to have

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Speaker 1: she has two kids from Tom Cruise, who I think

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Speaker 1: in their thirties. So let's talk about what that is like.

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Speaker 2: All, look at my daughter had one. Later, When you're

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Speaker 1: Okay, well you do it. I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm all happy for you, but would do it.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Okay, But here's the thing. I've done

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Speaker 1: a little research, and I love I mean, Big Little Eyes,

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Speaker 1: and she wore it proudly all those things. But if

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Speaker 1: you look back, he credits Keith Urban, credits Nicole Kidman

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Speaker 1: long time, And he credits Nicole. She's been the glue

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be the glue for our family.

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Speaker 2: Right, women are the blue women have the strength.

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Speaker 1: Because the rumors are that he's dating some guitarist named

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Speaker 2: How about him changing the words to a song that what?

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Speaker 2: That took me back?

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Speaker 1: I know, but the rumors have it. You know, if

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Speaker 2: You know that we don't think we read or see

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Speaker 1: She's not excuse me, agreement, she's got the kids. Let's

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Speaker 2: They mutually signed off on a proposal that she gets

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Speaker 2: fifty nine. He's probably touring making music, you know what

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Speaker 1: So you're excusing him not being a good parent because

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Speaker 2: On me say it was not being a good parent.

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Speaker 2: But on old school, most most of the time children

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Speaker 1: Well, well most of the time, not all, Susan, are

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Speaker 1: you really we're gonna disagree this early end in this podcast.

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Speaker 1: You don't believe in the fifty to fifty rule, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes I do, yes, I always believe a dad is

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Speaker 2: Dads don't have the time that moms do. All all though, today.

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Speaker 1: to you. Nicole Kidman, I would argue, is a bigger

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Speaker 2: But when someone says they mutually signed off on an agreement,

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Speaker 2: he agreed to it, Kathy, So why would you like that.

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Speaker 1: He agreed Susan clearly? Okay for all y'all listening. Susan,

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Speaker 1: They agreed on most things. Newsfly. Most people don't have

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Speaker 2: And we're still in the same city, not in the

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Speaker 1: Right, so it's easy for the kids to go back

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Speaker 1: Yes? Did you not see this guy? When Keith Urban

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Speaker 1: And she sits there demure, blinking her eyes, her little

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Speaker 2: It's sad. It's so sad.

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Speaker 1: It's so sad. Oh god, what's next. I don't even

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Speaker 1: know Rachel, Rachel Zoe. Oh gosh, and get them filtered.

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Speaker 2: But I loved her honesty and she says, I feel

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Speaker 2: she's dealing with. Okay, Bravo hit Rachel's project. Okay, we

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Speaker 2: through stuff. Isn't that true?

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Speaker 1: Everybody's going through stuff. I got a bad haircut, I'm

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Speaker 1: going through bad haircut. Here's the deal with Rachel. This

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Speaker 1: is a direct quote. She is divorcing Roger Berman. She says, quote,

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Speaker 1: not sure if she said this or some podcast she

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Speaker 1: Let me let me take issue that for one second.

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Speaker 2: One more thing that she quote, I quote, you have

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Speaker 2: to have your own things to wake up for every day,

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Speaker 2: so you can't count on a man for your life.

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Speaker 2: You have don't do it for yourself, and then you

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Speaker 2: join somebody's life. I get it.

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Speaker 1: I agree. Now that's Hollywood. Let's talk reality. Rachel is

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Speaker 2: just don't work out.

435
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: Yes, but here's the thing. How long do you think

436
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: that was going on? I mean, seriously, do you think

437
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: more often than not people know divorces coming, or do

438
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: you think people just sit in their own happiness? What

439
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: do you think sit in their own happiness or unhappiness happiness?

440
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people realize it but don't

441
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: act upon it right. They don't want to be the

442
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: one and both of them might be feeling that until

443
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: they come to their senses and share it with each other.

444
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: But more times than not, it's usually one that wants

445
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: out more than the other.

446
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: That's funny. You say that. I mean again, I'm you're divorced.

447
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: I'm not, but you got it. Let me just say,

448
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: and I didn't say this before all these divorces with kids.

449
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: My parents were divorced when I was six. My dad

450
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: remarried the same year, and he remarried an amazing woman.

451
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: Was really I was, yeah, she absolutely she I considered

452
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: her my mom, but I have to say my parents

453
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: had a divorce like the word of the Roses. I mean,

454
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: it was screaming fits. It was not pleasant. It really

455
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: was not pleasant, and which of course made me work

456
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: harder on my own marriage. But I got to say,

457
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: people who try to do it right for their young kids,

458
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that looks like, because, as

459
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: I just said, my parents didn't do it. They didn't

460
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: do it right. But I gotta feel, like, what do

461
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: you think? It's like I'm kind of role playing here,

462
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: like when you said to Dicky, I want out because

463
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: you asked for the divorce, right, Like was he shocked?

464
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: Did he know what was coming?

465
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Because we were not even living together. We were in

466
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: the same house, but not together. You know, we were

467
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: passing ships through the night. Like when he was on

468
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: the road, I ran the house, which was most of

469
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: the time, and when he come home, he'd started to

470
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: do his parenting and it was different than mine. So right,

471
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: we kind of didn't agree on a lot of things.

472
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: And then my boys gave us trouble when they got

473
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: a little older, and that was a really rough part.

474
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: But we were stood together on that.

475
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I hear you. One particular friend I have,

476
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: I still have her. Her husband traveled for business, not sports,

477
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: but his business is traveling to do his job. He's

478
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: a lawyer, and they will never it's he's he was

479
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: never there. And I remember her saying to me at

480
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: the time, like, do you think he has another family?

481
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: Do you think? But I didn't have that.

482
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: That does happen, actually does happen. That's crazy.

483
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean my husband was home. But I just wonder

484
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: some of these stories that were some of these headlines

485
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: that we're talking about.

486
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: A lot of them are both professionals, so they both

487
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: have outside lives, right and movies. They're playing a guitar.

488
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean, they're in a band, they're traveling their road trip.

489
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: So how hard do you think, I mean, you had it.

490
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: How hard is it to have a marriage where there's travel?

491
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: Very hard? Very difficult, because you know there's days when

492
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: you know when he will come home from work and

493
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: you're just like, oh what a day, Like take them,

494
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: I don't want any part of the treat, you know,

495
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: But I didn't have that.

496
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: I say that now about my cats. There's just no

497
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: one to take care of them.

498
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: I think he does some speaking engagements and I'll ever

499
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: forget he was doing the talk and he goes, you know,

500
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: I come home from a road trip. My wife looked

501
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: like don king her hair. There is magic mark or

502
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: a lipstick on the wall.

503
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: She was spent.

504
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: That was it. There was one of those weeks and

505
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: a three year old.

506
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: You know really, So, I mean I can see where

507
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: where Yeah, I mean think about it in the divorce

508
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: is like so is traumatic for most people. Some people,

509
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: I guess just say walk away. Say it's been real

510
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: if they walk away. But for a lot of people,

511
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: it's from out Can you imagine the headlines? Can you imagine?

512
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: And so I got to say these women that say,

513
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: are these men that say in this case, you know

514
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: candy saying it's been brewing for a while, Like that

515
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: really means it's been going down for a while, and

516
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm done.

517
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: Some disagreements going on, and they knew it was coming.

518
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: On a better note the next one that's.

519
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

520
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: On Goslin's new wife, Stephanie reveals the important promise he

521
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: made during his wedding vows when I tell you, I

522
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: thought that was so so.

523
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: Special, Tell me why.

524
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that was very emotional wedding and John Goslin will

525
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: remember from Johnny Kate plus eight. Do you remember that?

526
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: Oh? I do.

527
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: Stephanie was a former beautician. Yeah again I can relate.

528
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: Married in an intimate ceremony in Leicester, just on Sunday,

529
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: November twenty third, as they stood in the altar in

530
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: front of their one hundred and eighty guests, John made

531
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: such a touching promise to his bride quote, I promised

532
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: to love you with conditions, to lift you up when

533
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: you are tired, to laugh with you, enjoy and hold

534
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: you in sorrow. I like, like you know, I'm almost okay.

535
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: Wait, first of all, I gotta get throw some humans.

536
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: One thing, he says, Katy, this part she put me

537
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: over the top. I promised to love your daughter as

538
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: my own daughter, referring to his wife's Stephanie's daughter. Right,

539
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: He says, it means the world to her and he

540
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: didn't feel what what didn't you feel?

541
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: Okay? Here's you know me? Because Susan is hopeless romantic.

542
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm the realist. I think. First of all, I'm so

543
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: happy that John has found Stephanie. But can I just

544
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: say he's got how many children from his first man?

545
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: So Stephanie deserves a crown. Let me just say a

546
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: crown with a diamond stud for each stepchild. That's I

547
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care. Okay, let me say I

548
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: have a step mom. So this warmed my heart because

549
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: I just told you my stepmother was is my world.

550
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: She passed away two years ago, but she was my mom.

551
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. Let me say he's got eight kids. Yes,

552
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: he's got quintuplets, quadruplets, whatever the hell they're called. Only

553
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: two of the kids came to the wedding, So I'm

554
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: already thinking we got problems in paradise here because not

555
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: all the kids came to the wedding. That's number one.

556
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: Number two, I want to know why. I think it's

557
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: lovely that he mentioned Stephanie's daughter in the vows. I

558
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: think it's so sweet, but I'm But then the realist,

559
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: Kathy is saying, did we not have these conversations about

560
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: your daughter before we got married, that you know she's gonna,

561
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, I have another daughter, Like, did we

562
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: not have this conversation? Noticeably absent was her comment about

563
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: how thrilled she was to have eight step children. We

564
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: didn't hear about that, And I want to say that

565
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: my son, you're the wedding efficient here. So I'm coming

566
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: back to you in a second with a question. My

567
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: son married an amazing woman two years ago, and yes,

568
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Susan Knowles was the wedding efficient and did a fabulous job.

569
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: My son married a woman who has three sons. My

570
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: son has a daughter, so there are four children, not eight,

571
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: but half of that, and they are a complete family.

572
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: But they had the conversations before about you know, raising

573
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: children and their values and working as a united family.

574
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: I don't think he did. Is that what you're saying,

575
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: You don't conversation took place. I'm saying the woman's not waring.

576
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: She knows there's eight kids involved.

577
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: It's Johnny, Listen, I'm a hard ass sometimes. Why is

578
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: it so sweet that she mentioned, you know, he's got

579
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: nine eggs out of a dozen.

580
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: Now, I mean he didn't expect it. She didn't expect

581
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: that I would one of his vows.

582
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: I would.

583
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: That's what took her back. I would, Okay, Kathy, I've

584
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: been honest.

585
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: If I'm marrying a man and I have children, look, I.

586
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: Am a wedding efficient. A lot of people write their

587
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: own valves. Some of them just write words they took

588
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: off the internet. Some of them make me cry. It's unbelievable.

589
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: Some of them stutter over it. Some say forget this

590
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: and rip up the paper and just speak from their heart.

591
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 2: That is beautiful, and what that man said meant the

592
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: world to her.

593
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm not taking it away. I'm saying I think

594
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: it's lovely. But noticeably absent is her saying. And I

595
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: cannot believe I'm the mother of nine.

596
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: Oh kind of tell you?

597
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: I break out in a sweat.

598
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: She's not the mother of nine. They have a mother.

599
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: She is their father's wife. That's all. She don't have

600
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: to raise those eight kids. They're raised. Okay, they're twenty one,

601
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: they're adults.

602
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: She is their stepmother.

603
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: What through the through the words stepmother? Because you married

604
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: their dad. That does it really make you a mom?

605
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: I am speechless. My stepmother was my mother because.

606
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: You were yet little and under her roof. Yes, she

607
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: raised you, She helped raise you. These children don't need

608
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: to be raised her daughter maybe who is the younger one.

609
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: I don't care. I think, as you and I both know,

610
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: children are children for life. It's not like they turned

611
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: eighteen and all of a sudden their problems go away.

612
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not their father anymore, just that

613
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: because he got married doesn't make this new wife their mother.

614
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: And as far as the words, I think they're beautiful.

615
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 2: Care you, John, you should have called me. I could

616
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 2: have been there.

617
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: He says, I'm trying to be a good father to her,

618
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: just like one of my own. You know, I hope

619
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: he was a great father to his own children. I mean,

620
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't there. I think it's sweet,

621
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: But you know me, I'm not going to listen to

622
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: the words as much as I'm going to look at

623
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: his actions. So John, I'm going to be watching John.

624
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching John, all right. Moving along, go ahead.

625
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: Who we got next?

626
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: Here? Next we have Brian Austin Green reflects on extremely

627
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: tumultuous split from x Vanessa Marcel, but he hints at

628
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 2: where they stand. Now.

629
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just gonna say to you, Susan, you need

630
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: a then diagram to understand this.

631
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: Because we got Megan Fox.

632
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: He had Megan Fox and he has young kids with her,

633
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: but prior to that he was engaged to Vanessa. He's

634
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 1: got a twenty three year old with her. They don't

635
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: get along so well. Twenty three years later, they're still

636
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: not getting along. Now it just let's add a little

637
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: more oil to the vinegar. Now he is in Gauge

638
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: to a lovely woman named Shawna Shanna rgis Urgis. So

639
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: now he's engaged. He's he's apparently gets along really well

640
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: with Megan, knows how to parent.

641
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: Everybody's doing good for the ones.

642
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is the deal you You you have

643
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: this son with this woman. This kid is like, he's

644
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: not a kid. He's twenty three, twenty two, twenty three

645
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: years old. You cannot co parent that child well with

646
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: this woman, and yet you can you can co parent

647
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: with Megan Fox the next young younger children. What is

648
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: the deal? He says, you know, the transition from excess

649
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: to successful co parenting. I'm trying to figure out why

650
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: after having two kids with Megan Fox, he cannot figure

651
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: out that number one and the oldest one. Maybe he

652
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: should take some lessons and go back and see if

653
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: he can repair that relationship.

654
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: Here's how well him and Megan. They get along, they're fine,

655
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 2: and they co parent. They stay out of each other's way, right.

656
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they are three kids together, so they're.

657
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: Past eleven and nine, and he realized early on people

658
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: separate for our reason. We're not all of a sudden

659
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: going to be just great friends. As they co parent,

660
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: we stop being together because we didn't get along as

661
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: well as we did when we first got together. So

662
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: let's take that expectation out of it and just resign

663
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: to the fact that I only care about the health

664
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: and wellness of my kids. So it sounds like, you know,

665
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: everybody's thinking, oh, they're great, they're great. He's not that great.

666
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: He's doing it. He respects it, but stay the buck

667
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: away from me.

668
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think I feel sorry that.

669
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: I get it. He never married Vanessa. I get it.

670
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: They had this kid together, but you know what, the

671
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: kid deserves better. I'm sorry. You know, the you'rero is

672
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: the one saying marriage piece of paper. They had a

673
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: kid together. You know, it's sad. It's sad that he

674
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: could not figure out how to parent with her, and

675
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: now being engaged again, I sure hoped hell he figures

676
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: it out, because I'm guessing there's going to be more

677
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: kids coming down the pike, just as a wild guests.

678
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: How about him? Saying, and I could it was a

679
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: very tumultious separation because you have this thing in your

680
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: head of how you want to win.

681
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know what if that's your parenting a

682
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: child is about winning, that's another problem there. I don't know.

683
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: I have to say to you.

684
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: The smarter one of the two, you want to be

685
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: acknowledged for that?

686
00:41:52,360 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: WHOA I want to ask you, Susan, what do you

687
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: think about a couple, a grown couple. We're not talking

688
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: twenty year olds. There a grown couple who cannot get

689
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: be on good terms, who cannot get along so many

690
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: years later. I think there's a problem.

691
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: There have to be something so detrimental that you can't

692
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: forgive or move on. I think it's ridiculous. I think

693
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: you have to respect each other because you're both parents

694
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: of the your family. Yeah, you know what, be well,

695
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: if I just wish the next person, well maybe not immediately,

696
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: it takes time, but you have to have relationships with

697
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 2: your children, and children were with the expouse, so there

698
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: has to be some kind of a relationship there. If

699
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: there's a crisis, you're gonna call the spouse.

700
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Well you're going to call somebody the spouse,

701
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: the fiance you're gonna call somebody.

702
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: I run into people all the time that dread the

703
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: people that are getting married that I'll interview with and say,

704
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna do with my parents.

705
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: My dad's bringing his girlfriend and my mom doesn't have

706
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: and it's like they can't even be in the same

707
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: room together. I can't comprehend.

708
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: My can I just tell you my parents, my real

709
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: mother and my father, are like that. When I got married,

710
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: they didn't sit at the same table, they didn't talk.

711
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: I told you War of the Roses. Here's here's what

712
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: I would say. He is now engaged to another woman.

713
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: You know, Meghan is uh, Megan, Meghan's long gone. I

714
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: mean they co parent well, the two children they have.

715
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: I think that at this point Brian ought to just

716
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: figure out how he can have a great relationship with

717
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: his son in.

718
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: It all, just get that well.

719
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: I just think I think it's too bad. I think

720
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: he missed the I guess, is what I'm saying. I

721
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: wish he could have co parented well with the child's

722
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: mom with Vanessa, but he couldn't do it. And I

723
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: think it's honestly, I think it's sad. My parents didn't

724
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: co parent well, and I feel like it's really sad.

725
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: But you know what's more sad is our next headline,

726
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: which is Tory spelling and Dean McDermot staggering seven figure

727
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: tax step revealed in the divorce settlement.

728
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: Hey, oh so much money? Oh good? Over one point

729
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 2: seven million in unpaid federal and state taxes. I mean one,

730
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: they are one point two million into the ire I know.

731
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: And they also own more than five hundred thousand and

732
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: unpaid taxes to the California.

733
00:44:54,640 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: Franch Okay, wait, wait, I love the fact that I

734
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: feel bad. How did that happen?

735
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 2: Poor?

736
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: Debt includes the Beverly Hills nine O two one zero

737
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: alump ohing two hundred eighty eight thousand to a private individual,

738
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: sixty nine thousand to another individual, over ten thousand for

739
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: medical expenses.

740
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: Uninsured, oh my god, two thousand from a student loan,

741
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: and twenty thousand in his own uninsuredble Okay, talk about

742
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: debt and divorce. We're losing a spouse and money.

743
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: Wait, they have five kids together, can you imagine? Wait?

744
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: I want to know how this happened. How do you

745
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: get so far behind? You make deals with the irs. Okay,

746
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: well students the first knut game. Okay, take this and

747
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: this out of my thing every month. I mean, come on,

748
00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 2: this is ridiculous, Tori, What were you thinking.

749
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: So Aaron? I mean, I don't know. The rumor has

750
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: it that Aaron her father did not leave her a

751
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: lot of money, so you know, the poor thing had

752
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: to earn her own income. Was so, you know, poor her.

753
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: But I actually met her once. She's a lovely woman.

754
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: So I you know, I'm just saying I gotta say,

755
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: I think, Well, it happens because you spend you don't

756
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: pay your bills.

757
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: What are their agents that he still owes for college? Well,

758
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: would you just ignore it? You thought it was going

759
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: to go away.

760
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: You forget to put susan It could happen to anybody.

761
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: You forget to put a stamp on the envelope. Loans.

762
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, these students loans. So these two have both already

763
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: been married. I think they figured it out the first time. No, no, no,

764
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: when you're getting remarried, when do you have that financial.

765
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, just because they've each been married

766
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: a couple of times does not mean that they have

767
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: the sense, the desire, the ethics, whatever it is to

768
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: pay their bills, their student loans, the irs. That has

769
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: nothing to do.

770
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: And right there, just pause, Say you're getting married, you

771
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: don't want to know?

772
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: Do we start with me dating? Could we start with

773
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: me dating.

774
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: That you're dating first? You love him, you're going to

775
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: marry him. You're not going to have a conversation if

776
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: he's in debt or not.

777
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's okay. Now I'm gonna be serious. We

778
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: are both in I Do Part two. We're both in

779
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: our second stage, just looking for love, our second and

780
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: hopefully final deal at love. Here, I can tell you honestly,

781
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: and you know I've taken a lot of flak for it.

782
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: I will not date men who don't have a secure income,

783
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: a retirement, a you know, own a home. If you

784
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: if if one has not discussed finances with their partner to.

785
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: The marriage or once you met, you're going to marry,

786
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: are you You're serious? Right to have that conversation, That's

787
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

788
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: But but long before marriage, Susan.

789
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: When when you're deciding that you're talking about.

790
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: No, no, no, When I'm when I first go out with

791
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: a guy, literally by the second or third date because.

792
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: You asked ten million questions for you, You're not the norm. Okay,

793
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 2: let's just say most women won't ask certain questions until

794
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: well into it. No, and by the second third date,

795
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: you could tell what Yes.

796
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying to you on the second or third date,

797
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: I'm talking to somebody about where they live, where, if

798
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: they traveled, what do they do? What if I'm saying

799
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: by the third day, Susan, when do you ask six

800
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: years into the marriage? Yeah?

801
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: I try to just try to figure it out on

802
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: my own, and I will say, I will say how

803
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: much debt are you in? You know, when conversation comes,

804
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: do you have a big debt?

805
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: Do you? Oh?

806
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: Do you do you own?

807
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: Okay? Wait, no, I'm going to break this down. When

808
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: you're dating, do you ask do you ask someone? Do

809
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: you ask the guy you're dating do you own your home?

810
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: I do? Do you? Yes?

811
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: Is this your house?

812
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you ask if he owned it or has

813
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: a mortgage? I do? Yeah?

814
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: I could ask that. I have asked that how many

815
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: years left on your mortgage? Is the way I would

816
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: I asked.

817
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: Okay, do you ask a man? I mean I don't

818
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: have to see their four oh one k but if

819
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: I see the car the guide drives, I ask him

820
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: where he big?

821
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: You have your eyes of him. But we can't assume anything.

822
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: For all we know they're debt free or quite the opposite.

823
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: They're a trillion dollars in debt. How do you know

824
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: without a call?

825
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: Well, I can assure you if a guy's a trillion

826
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: dollars in debt, I'm out the door so fast it

827
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: feels like a nor'easter blew through the room.

828
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: I was never comfortable bringing it up to say.

829
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: Would you divorce someone if they were in debt?

830
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: Because if you're with somebody, you're married to them.

831
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. Listen, if you're there's dating, okay,

832
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: So when you're okay, when you're there's two things here.

833
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: When you're dating and you think about getting married, then

834
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: it's like, are we going to split the mortgage? Who's

835
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: pending the electricity? Who's paying? Okay? So you have those conversations,

836
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: right at least, I do, okay.

837
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: How are we going to do?

838
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: How are we going to how are we going to

839
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: do our finances? Now let's jump ahead and you're you're

840
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: Tory spelling, and you find out that you know your

841
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: husband forgot to put a stamp on the envelope to

842
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: the I R S and didn't pay his bills to

843
00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: the University of Watchahouchi and now owns sixty nine thou dos,

844
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: At what point are you going to walk away when

845
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: you find out your guy's got a you know, he

846
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: bets on pony number nine and he's lost his fortune.

847
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: Are we saying that he's the one with all the debt.

848
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: Or okay, she forgot to lick the stamp. I'm saying,

849
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: when when do you make the decision to get out?

850
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: Do you ever do that?

851
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: Because it's a financial thing and it's a marriage, so

852
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: you got to sit down and decide how we're going

853
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 2: to do this. It's both of them.

854
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: Wow, I can assure you if you and I are

855
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: so different, because if I were married to a guy,

856
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: my husband was never like this. But if I were

857
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,479
Speaker 1: married to a guy and I found out that he'd

858
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: been evading the irs or he had a betting gambling

859
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: habit and he was in debt.

860
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: That's an easy one. Caat of course, you walk away,

861
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: you're given all big big he's in debt. If you

862
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: find out you didn't know already, that's what I mean

863
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: that conversation. In other words, if he was not telling

864
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: you the.

865
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: Truth, yeah, I'm out.

866
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: I'm out if you go and get together.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm telling you before I get married, if

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Speaker 1: should that happen to me again, I'm going to see

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Speaker 1: this guy's credit report. I'm going to see his bank accounts.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be prenups. I am never ever go

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Speaker 1: at our age, going to walk into a relationship to

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Speaker 1: pay somebody's debt.

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Speaker 2: And it says that either one of them paid two

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Speaker 2: of their debts, like nobody's doing anything here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let me be clear. It's unless I, you know,

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Speaker 1: take flak from people commenting when I say he, it

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00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: could easily be she. You know, in this case, Torri

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00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: owes buckets of money. Uh and and so does he.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm not here to judge. Tory

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00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: grew up in a very wealthy family. So I get it.

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Speaker 1: You know, she went from you know, top drawer to

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Speaker 1: you know, she went from Nemon Markets to Tarja. I

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Speaker 1: get it. But but I'm saying those are things people

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Speaker 1: need to find out long before they walked down the aisle.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, when you're married, saying I didn't

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Speaker 1: know is no excuse.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred and eighty eight thousand to a private individual

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Speaker 2: and sixty nine thousand to another unidentified Why do you

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Speaker 2: all that money?

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Speaker 1: They owe it to me and I'm going after it.

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Speaker 2: I just don't get it. That's something that you should

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Speaker 2: talk about. But they were still making money. Why are

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Speaker 2: you not paying your debts? Are they both just saying

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Speaker 2: f the IRS?

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Speaker 1: Or they got one beautiful Jaguar in that garage. They

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Speaker 1: have an a Maserati and a whole home at the beach.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm still not good with the student loan party.

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Speaker 1: Wait, can I just tell you don't leave home without

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Speaker 1: it their American Express card? They didn't. They just forgot

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Speaker 1: to leave home and pay the bill.

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Speaker 2: You're not young enough to make this kind of money

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Speaker 2: to pay it back. That would take an entire lifetime.

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Speaker 2: IRS is not gentle. Trust me, They'll come after you.

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Speaker 1: All I can say is all I can say is

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get my lawyer on it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing they don't even know who they owe the

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Speaker 1: individual money to. I'm going to put an acclaim.

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Speaker 2: This is the divorce settlement. They're fake. They're just now

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Speaker 2: figuring this out during the divorce. How much they owe.

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Speaker 1: No no, no no no no no no no no

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Speaker 1: no no. They both knew this is coming out in

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Speaker 1: the divorce papers. This is this is the price you pay,

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Speaker 1: Susan for being a famous person. This is the price

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Speaker 1: you pay.

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Speaker 2: People make famous money. What did they do with the money.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get Toy on the phone and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to get back to on that. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This was a lot to break down, Susan, and I

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Speaker 1: just want everyone out there to know if you are

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Speaker 1: single or divorced, or you've lost a spouse, truly, we

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Speaker 1: just want you to know on this holiday weekend that

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Speaker 1: you aren't alone and you're going to get through this.

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Speaker 1: I promise.

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Speaker 2: And if you need some help getting through your heartbreak,

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Speaker 2: call us or email us. All the info is in

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Speaker 2: the show notes, follow us on socials. Make sure to

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Speaker 2: rate and review the podcast I

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Speaker 1: Do Part two and iHeartRadio podcast where falling in love

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Speaker 1: is the main objective.