WEBVTT - Reconfiguring What Happiness Looks Like w/ Trace Lysette

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<v Speaker 1>I recently had an amazing hookup with someone from field.

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<v Speaker 1>I also matched with their partner. The partner is stupid hot,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would like to bone both of them. Do

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<v Speaker 1>I do that? Do I mention it to either of them?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any obvious answer? And I'm brain dead, horny

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<v Speaker 1>and can't think? Please help?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think I would say? Yeah, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to bone your partner and you at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you want to bone both of them, just say.

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<v Speaker 2>Send them a train emoji. Don't know what?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? This is a safe space to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about relationships, love and sex. Now let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>something messy. Hello, Okay, so today I'm actually you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a mess where it's the show, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be plenty of mess. But I want to actually

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about something that I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>craft a little bit, you know, between Messy Monday's on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>the sub stack, doing this podcast, you know, musings on

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<v Speaker 1>a second book that I'm trying to propose and work

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<v Speaker 1>on or working on my proposal for it. I've been like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the thread of all of this? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just sex. We talk about sex, but As

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've expanded the intro to talk about relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>love and sex. It's not just being queer, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just any of those things. It's not even just being messy.

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<v Speaker 1>The thread for me, I realize, has been curiosity. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I am so passionate about and I think

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<v Speaker 1>touches any kind of work that I do has been

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<v Speaker 1>about curiosity. But I've been saying that it's not any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of curiosity. It is disruptive curiosity, if you'll allow

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<v Speaker 1>me to use the term right. Curiosity is the desire

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<v Speaker 1>and the wanting to learn something new. I think disruptive curiosity,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, in kind of art or science or business,

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<v Speaker 1>is described as you know, the question that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shifts the status quo. But when it comes to us

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<v Speaker 1>as humans and what we've been doing on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I consider it intentionally asking questions to interrupt

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<v Speaker 1>the personal habits, generational cycles, and internal narratives that prevent

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<v Speaker 1>us from living liberated lives. Yeah, honey, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>love a definition.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about butt plugs, we talk about anal bow tigs,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about eat and policy, we talk about all

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<v Speaker 1>those things, but really, at the heart of any of

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<v Speaker 1>those conversations that we're having, whether it's you know something

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<v Speaker 1>about sex, or about family and estrangement and dating and

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<v Speaker 1>marriage and non monogamy, it's about disruptive curiosity. I really

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<v Speaker 1>think that that is the key to living a liberated life.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about radical honesty and the power vulnerability, and

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<v Speaker 1>those things are important and beautiful. But you do not

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<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity to exemplify by or experience radical honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>or experience vulnerability if you're not first curious, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not first willing to ask really hard questions and questions

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<v Speaker 1>that allow you to say the quiet things out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>I really believe that a lot of us are in

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<v Speaker 1>our own little corners thinking that we're the only ones

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing certain things in this human life. But one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite quotes that I learned from my Angelou, it's

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<v Speaker 1>by the philosopher Terrence, and I'm sure you've heard me

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<v Speaker 1>say it here or in my book. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>a human being. Thus nothing human can be alien to me.

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<v Speaker 1>We are all capable of understanding each other's experiences because

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<v Speaker 1>we all want the same thing, to love, to be loved,

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<v Speaker 1>to be seen, to be wanted, to be validated, to

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<v Speaker 1>be accepted, to belong. All of us want that, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what we are pursuing, what traumas we've experienced, what

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<v Speaker 1>trials and tribulations we've been up against. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we are able to get to that with just

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<v Speaker 1>sruptive curiosity, because you know, one are the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you thought that you were supposed to do because of

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<v Speaker 1>your gender, or because of your race, or because of

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<v Speaker 1>your sexual orientation. You know, girls wear pink, boys shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do ballet, A real man ver this a real woman,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like all this shit. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we've adopted blueprints that don't belong to us.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you've heard me say that, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the way to interrupt those blueprints and to start

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<v Speaker 1>building your own blueprint, one that's actually tailored to your

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<v Speaker 1>life is disruptive curiosity. As kids, we are allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>ask questions and it's understood. But once you hit teenager like,

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<v Speaker 1>asking questions isn't cool anymore, and sometimes low key it's inappropriate. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Our worth is tied to being right. Our power comes

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<v Speaker 1>from being right, and we covet that power, even if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a false power, and we want to be write

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<v Speaker 1>about things. We want to know everything right. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>about being all knowing, And I think there is such

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<v Speaker 1>a power in not knowing. There's such a power in

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<v Speaker 1>not having answers, in asking those questions and being like,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually don't know and I need time to process.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that curiosity isn't or disruptive. Curiosity isn't about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, perfect answers and perfect solutions. It's about radical processing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's about giving yourself the permission and the safety

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<v Speaker 1>to radically process and discover new answers and for those

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<v Speaker 1>answers to evolve. So that's what we do on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I'm doing in my life. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm committed to, and I hope that you get to

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<v Speaker 1>experience here and hopefully you know, commit to in your

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<v Speaker 1>own life. Which is disruptive curiosity, intentionally asking questions that

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<v Speaker 1>interrupt the habits, the cycles, and the narratives preventing us

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<v Speaker 1>from living liberated lives. You deserve to live a liberated life.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to hear something nasty? Now? Now that

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<v Speaker 1>I've given you, you know, the the beautiful super Soul

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday version of this opening, I'll give you a messy story,

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<v Speaker 1>like a messy situation, which is I was at the gym.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of my messy story, the thinker just happened

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<v Speaker 1>at the gym, but I was there and I walked

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<v Speaker 1>into the steam room and there was only one other

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<v Speaker 1>guy there and he was laying down on a towel,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, dick fully out, and I was like, wow, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all. And I sat down. I sat down, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>across not not you know, curious about anything. And he

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<v Speaker 1>sits up, and you know, you know now that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the steam room with him. He sits

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<v Speaker 1>up and he puts a towel across his lap, but

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<v Speaker 1>his dick is still hanging out. And I'm doing my stretches,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I like to stretch in the steam room,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, open these hips up, and the dick is

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful and it's hanging out, and like again, I I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need I don't need to play with anyone in

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<v Speaker 1>this dum I'm happy being aware. So I was like, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you covered yourself, but you didn't really cover yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>so obviously you want that dick to be seen. And

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<v Speaker 1>I see it and it's beautiful love. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh he's sexy. Let me tell you how quickly I

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<v Speaker 1>got the ick that itck happens fast and maybe I'm crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell me if I'm a monster for this. But

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, homeboy starts singing. He just starts

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<v Speaker 1>like me and him, I just start singing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the fuck he was singing. But you might

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<v Speaker 1>not know this about me. But like I, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't sing, well, oh lord, my body breaks out into hives.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like talent shows, like I love drag Race, but

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I watch like the talent show portion my husbands

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<v Speaker 1>telling you this, I will have to leave the room

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes because if it's not good, I get I get embarrassed. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is, but like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>my body like oh no, no, no, oh no, that

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<v Speaker 1>joke wasn't funny. Oh no, that that they can't sing

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<v Speaker 1>like and so like I bring out the high. So

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<v Speaker 1>this this was happening. I was like stretching and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like singing. I was like, oh my god. And

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<v Speaker 1>then more people started coming to the steam room and

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<v Speaker 1>he that didn't deter him from singing his song. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he started asking if anyone in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>room spoke Spanish, and somebody was like it was responding,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think they responded to his friend, he was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna sing, and I want to know tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what word I'm not he' said pronunciating, which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's a word. I think he's enunciating. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pronouncing which anyways, and the guy was like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't speak Spanish. He's like, oh, I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>said you did. So he was about to just sing

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<v Speaker 1>and then the final so he so the singing the

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<v Speaker 1>uh wanting to to sing in Spanish and have other

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<v Speaker 1>people in the steam room tell him what word he

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<v Speaker 1>is not pronunciating, and then he got up and started

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<v Speaker 1>coughing freely. He just started baby, I didn't care what

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<v Speaker 1>that dick looked like no more. I was so turned

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<v Speaker 1>off and I found myself in the ick and that

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<v Speaker 1>that that's that's really. There's not much more to this

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<v Speaker 1>story other than can y'all do me a favor when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the steam room, just shut the fuck up, sorry, respectfully,

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<v Speaker 1>Just be in the same room and stretch if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to, you know, toil your dick a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>happily do that, you know, as long as everyone's cool

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<v Speaker 1>with that toy your dick around. I I't give a

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<v Speaker 1>fuck about that, you know. But but don't talk, don't

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<v Speaker 1>have full conversations, and certainly don't sing. And certainly if

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<v Speaker 1>you can't sing, because I understand you're like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to work my vote, my voice and and the throat

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<v Speaker 1>and and and you know, the steam is good for

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<v Speaker 1>the throat. But if you can't sing, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear you. If you can sing. One of

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<v Speaker 1>our best friends, we've been streaming together. One of best

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<v Speaker 1>friends is a singer. That's what she does. Uh And

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<v Speaker 1>but she, I mean they that's what they do. She's

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's like me, we're both she's anyways, they sing

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<v Speaker 1>and so like. But if I'm telling you right now,

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<v Speaker 1>if she starts singing the steam room, I would slaper.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, girl, shut the fuck up, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? You know what I'm saying. We're in the

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<v Speaker 1>steam room. The only thing I want to hear is

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<v Speaker 1>the steam. So don't sing in the steam room. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>sing in a language that you don't speak in the

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<v Speaker 1>steam room, and please don't cough in the steam room.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what I've discovered. Now, this may be messy.

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<v Speaker 1>I farted in the steamer room and it was perfect

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<v Speaker 1>because the scheme was so loud you couldn't hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>And because it's steamy. It's like, you know, like when

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<v Speaker 1>when something smells you like the match you throw in

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<v Speaker 1>the toilet bowl. Because it's so steamy, you can't smelling either,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't even know if it's smelled. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just and then like you couldn't hear it because there

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<v Speaker 1>was steam, and it didn't smell because of the steam.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can fight in the steam room if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>But see, that's why y'all gotta wear flip flops because

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<v Speaker 1>people are fighting in the steamer room. People let me me,

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<v Speaker 1>so wear your flip flops. Not that it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a wet fart. It's not like there's you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>a ship coming out of the far. I wouldn't. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not a fart, that's a shot. That's a shark, as

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<v Speaker 1>we understand that. But I would just you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>those of y'all who raw dog the steam room and

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room floors, God bless you. You were really

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<v Speaker 1>living on the edge. You're showing your privilege and now

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a lot of trauma. I see, I see,

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<v Speaker 1>get your flip flops on love and that's all. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'll say on that. Okay, shall we start

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I'm so sorry. By the way, welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the show. This is telling me something messy. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Kyle good Man. Most people call me messy mother,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could call me madre disort or not. Did

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<v Speaker 1>I say it right to my people who speak Spanish,

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<v Speaker 1>my messy patrons, my espaniol messi patrons, that I say

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<v Speaker 1>it right, Madre de surdi nada. Okay, let's get the

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<v Speaker 1>show started. Baby. You know what that means. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>for a guest. Now, while they get situated, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>our messy key key started with a Hoe manifest sto

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<v Speaker 1>repeat after me aloud or in your head. Grant me

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<v Speaker 1>the serenity to unpack my shame, the courage to heal,

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<v Speaker 1>the wisdom to know that sex is not about penetration,

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<v Speaker 1>the audacity to advocate for my pleasure and boundaries, the

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<v Speaker 1>strength to not call my ex that fuck boy, fuck

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<v Speaker 1>girl or fuck they for it is better to masturbabe

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<v Speaker 1>by myself in peace than to let someone play in

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<v Speaker 1>my motherfucking face. Let the hommunity say ho heluja. I

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<v Speaker 1>am so excited to have Trace Lissett on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Trace is an actress and producer known for her work

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<v Speaker 1>in TV and film, most notably the Golden Globe winning

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<v Speaker 1>series Transparent, which earned her an Ensemble Sagaward nomination, the

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<v Speaker 1>feature film Hustlers, Venus as a Boy, and the critically

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<v Speaker 1>acclaimed Monica Which Was So Fucking Good, which premiered at

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<v Speaker 1>Venice Film Festival to an eleven minute Standing ovation and

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<v Speaker 1>earned her an Independent Spirit Award nomination and a glad

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<v Speaker 1>Media Award for Best Film. Y'all if you haven't seen Monica,

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<v Speaker 1>please yourself a favorite. It's so good. Her TV credits

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<v Speaker 1>include Law and Order, SVU PO'SE, Drunk History, Midnight Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>David makes Man, Quantum Leap, and Blunt Talk. She recently

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<v Speaker 1>received honors from HRC and Outfest a Dorian Award nomination.

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<v Speaker 1>Has appeared in music videos from Maroon five, Share Tiana Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>and hosted the number one chart topping scripted podcast Harsh Reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all Please Help me. Welcome, Trace last, Welcome to the show. Hi, Trace, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? How are you get that we did?

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<v Speaker 1>Not a little off camera royalty or off my realty. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into this this messy, messy key key,

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<v Speaker 1>let me give you our messy mandates, which are things

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<v Speaker 1>get to be unprocessed. Any thoughts or opinion shared, have

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<v Speaker 1>the right to evolve, shift or change tomorrow or sorry

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<v Speaker 1>today tomorrow or ten years from now. And if during

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<v Speaker 1>the kiki something feels too personal or unintentionally offends, we

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<v Speaker 1>use the safe word foosball, which gives us a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to pause and address accordingly. Sound good, sounds good, be beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we start with a lube breaker, A.

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<v Speaker 2>Loub break down.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, a lube breaker, Yes, I have to. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to hit the B because people think I say lude breaker,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying lube because we need our lube hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. This is a game of real or faking.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna tell you something, and you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me if you think it's real or if it's fake.

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<v Speaker 2>Sound good? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this one says real or faking. You can't get

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant if you have sex at night because the sperm

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<v Speaker 1>are sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, that's not real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's not really, that's completely faking. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>something that I saw people believed that they couldn't get pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, real or faking sex increases your immunity to pain.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, sometimes sex is painful, So I'd have to say

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<v Speaker 2>that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. That's a really, that's a logical Yeah, it's real. Technically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's real. Aside from the obvious physical pleasure, sex can

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<v Speaker 1>actually be an aid in pain relief during states of

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<v Speaker 1>arousal and orgasm. The oh lord, this were hypotholamists in

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<v Speaker 1>the brain. Not a science show, but here we are

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<v Speaker 1>releases the feel good hormone oxytocin. Researchers at Rutgers University

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<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey found this surge of oxytocin can reduce

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<v Speaker 1>pain felt in women, especially during menstruation. A further study

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<v Speaker 1>published in the Bulletin of Experimental Biology and Medicine found

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<v Speaker 1>that oxytocin in men can cut the perception of pain

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<v Speaker 1>in half. So that is really all right, work. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder like if you're if you are feeling pain, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you just got back from a little something something

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<v Speaker 1>and you feel pain from the little doctor. If you will,

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<v Speaker 1>if you touch yourself a little bit, if that is

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<v Speaker 1>better than advil. I don't know. I don't really want

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<v Speaker 1>to try, but somebody tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>I've tried masturbating when I have a migraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it help?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it'll take my mind off of it, Like it'll just.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, but it'll distract a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but if the migrant's too bad, I have to.

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<v Speaker 1>It won't cure it, That's what I'm saying. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'd be too distracted by the pain to even

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to do something exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever masturbated when you have like the flu or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. I love this question, and I want to think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I love that question. Sometimes I really think

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sex Like I'll have fantasies when I'm sick in bed

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<v Speaker 2>and it takes my mind off of the pain of

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<v Speaker 2>the sickness.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, I love that. I guess I feel so snotty

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<v Speaker 1>and nasty that I like, don't think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm like, I close my eyes and just like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you close your eyes and you're in your fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in a divine fantasy. Yes, I might try that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. When I've had the flu, I have not masturbated,

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<v Speaker 1>But next time I will. Okay, I'm a report back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a report bad. You know you can get an update.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll follow up. Uh. This one says vibrators were first

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<v Speaker 1>developed as a medical device. Real or faking.

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<v Speaker 2>That might be real. I think that's real.

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<v Speaker 1>Trace you are getting it, mama. It is real. It

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<v Speaker 1>is real. The vibrator was invented in eighteen sixty nine

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<v Speaker 1>as a treatment for huhsteria quote unquote or mysterious Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the hornyl Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't know. They didn't want us to be horny.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't want they didn't want women to be horny.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>They did it, and so they said, let's fix it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they fixed it by giving y'all something that would

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<v Speaker 1>bring pleasure. So work anyways, when a woman so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>It was invented in eighteen sixty nine as a treatment

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<v Speaker 1>for hysteria or mysterious quote unquote female disorders. Whenever a

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<v Speaker 1>woman reported being mentally or emotionally upset, it was considered

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<v Speaker 1>an illness, and the cure was using a large steam

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<v Speaker 1>powered massage O Jesus to massage the genitals with the

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<v Speaker 1>goal of inducing quote unquote historical paroxism, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>Victorian term for orgasm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the steam, not the steam.

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<v Speaker 1>The steam.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Steam powered massage. I don't even know that looks or

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<v Speaker 1>mean like an.

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<v Speaker 2>Iron steam rod. That sounds painful.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds painful. Yeah, that's not cute. But but I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that was the first vibrater, and I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>learned that vibrators were actually quite useful for the orgasm,

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<v Speaker 1>but not a steam. I wouldn't look have to look

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<v Speaker 1>up a steam powered massage. I wonder. I'm assuming that

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<v Speaker 1>means that there's a steam coming to you right like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's perhaps a massage, or in my mind, it's like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe for the lubrication or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the head vava lubrication, Yes, a little lubrication, little

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<v Speaker 1>mist perhaps, I just like good old faithful, good old

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<v Speaker 1>faithful fingers. Yeah, yeah, I'm the same way. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes with you wherever you wherever you go. You

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<v Speaker 1>can always have that vibe in your pocket them fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, Vincent just sent me a photo of the steamer.

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<v Speaker 1>It does not look sexy at all. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you can see this trace.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it looks like a mouse trap.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you see that it does?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks like Yeah, it looks like a mouse

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<v Speaker 1>trap with like a kettle. Oh, like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that is that the steam like it's like at on

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<v Speaker 1>top of a mouse trap with Uh that looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a little dick.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it looks dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Not, it does look dangerous, But I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no steam coming onto the body. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe motorizing like a fuck machine. Oh, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if this this is like an old school fuck machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, okay, perfect, So it is. It's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a it's a steam powered fuck machine, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like one of those dildos that go like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they just keep going that move. You turn it

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<v Speaker 1>on and you can just like let the fuck you

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You've never done one of those?

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, I've never done, but I do desire one. I

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<v Speaker 1>just here's the I would love to buy a fuck machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I see a porn with it, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that looks fabulous. I just don't know where I would

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<v Speaker 1>put it. I feel like I would need to have

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<v Speaker 1>a sex room because those things take up space and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a very Marie Condo kind of doll. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I like things to have their place, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a place quite yet for a fuck machine to

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<v Speaker 1>just chill me neither, you know, like I can't mass

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<v Speaker 1>tuit cases in the bathroom. It's like I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a spot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you have made it and you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a machine room.

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<v Speaker 1>That is. Listen when I come to Tracey's house and

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<v Speaker 1>I find a funk machine, like, she's made it.

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<v Speaker 2>We've made it, We've got something to strive for.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh she made it. Yeah. This says people who have

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<v Speaker 1>less sex overcompensate in their in their jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think they. I think they do, because there

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<v Speaker 2>are those really anal ones that you're like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>she used to get laid, Like who can throw a

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<v Speaker 2>valume in her mouth?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, yeah, chill out. Yes, yes, yes, that is

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<v Speaker 1>very true. The people who have less sex do overcompensate

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<v Speaker 1>in their jobs, and I am probably one of those people. Ironically,

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<v Speaker 1>researchers found that people within an active sex life tend

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<v Speaker 1>to do more work to comp but say for their

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<v Speaker 1>lack of quote unquote fulfillment. The study asked thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people to open up about their sex life and

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<v Speaker 1>work habits. The result found that thirty six percent of

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<v Speaker 1>men and thirty five percent of women who only had

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<v Speaker 1>sex once a week would also work excessive hours at

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<v Speaker 1>their jobs. The more work you have, the more stress

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<v Speaker 1>you have, and the more stress you have, the less

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<v Speaker 1>sex you have. First of all, if you're having sex

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<v Speaker 1>once a week, I actually think you're doing great. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is that crazy going on? I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say that's drought? Baby, It sounds I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like are we fucked up?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I can do what I need to do and

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm going to get one off at least

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<v Speaker 2>once a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like once a week is plenty. Is that? Am? I?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we bugging? Are we just workaholics?

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<v Speaker 2>Release on? Yeah, a nice Sunday release and then you're

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<v Speaker 2>good for the week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think. Like I always wait for the weekends,

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<v Speaker 1>like I am. I'm actually not a weekday sex person.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like day I don't either.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't either.

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<v Speaker 1>I just unless it's like a weekend day or a vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't like daytime sex just to do I

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<v Speaker 1>have things to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I have things to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't wind down and really no, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>got calk three thousand When I'm thinking about the to

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<v Speaker 2>do list.

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<v Speaker 1>Cat cok three like I have to do, I have

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<v Speaker 1>something to do. Yes, I'm with you. If I have things,

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<v Speaker 1>if there are things on my to do list, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing you. You know what I'm saying. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get done yet. I need I need it

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<v Speaker 1>to be well.

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<v Speaker 2>The worst is when like somebody hits you up on

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<v Speaker 2>a whim and it'll be like, hey, hey, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>just straight guys to do this. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, hey, I just left the gym. It'll be

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<v Speaker 2>like eleven or ten thirty in the morning. They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing? Can I come by? Like what?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I haven't even had my oat meal? Go away,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>You are not boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get boyfriends sexy time if you're not going No.

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<v Speaker 1>That is correct. Daytime sex is for the boyfriends, for

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<v Speaker 1>the boyfriends, for the day friends. It is not for

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<v Speaker 1>the random.

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Like oh, I was running an err and I'm in

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 2>your hood, Like get out because.

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>You know because I know that you're not gonna fuck

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:24.120
<v Speaker 1>me good. I just know you're here to it's gonna

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 1>be way you want to blow a load, and I'm.

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Not prepped in the way I want to be prepped

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 2>like I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I need my weekend time for that, That's what

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So I need my Friday and my Saturday,

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>even Sunday you can hit it, But Monday to Friday

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 1>five pm, you're not hitting this. That's just and that's

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>just me. I know other people are different, but that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>Monday day. Get out of here. Like that is not said.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not sexy unless again, we're on vacation, then it's

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>very sexy to be.

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>If we're on a vacation, we're in and Caicos, maybe come.

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Boy, Yes, we can do whatever you want. We're in Cacos,

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>especially if you love we can do whatever you want. Okay, this,

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 1>where the where are they?

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 2>You don't even know? It's really dark.

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Tracy won the game? Ok yeah, perfectly, Yes, you really listen,

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you were actually you take it all of them correct.

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 1>That's like that doesn't always happen here, but that works.

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't happen off to but you work, you win

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>my unconditional love, which is very valuable, very valuable. You've

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 1>already had it.

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 2>But listen season not like not like that, but like

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:35.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, not like that.

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like that. You know, we know some things.

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>We know some things. Patrons, if you have prompts, you

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:45.399
<v Speaker 1>can email me tell me something messy at gmail dot com.

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which, trace, can you tell me something messy?

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Messy? Okay, Well, I was thinking about, you know, sex

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>and nature. I was also thinking about movies that we

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.199
<v Speaker 2>were talking about movies and stuff that inspired us. And

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I think it was Jason's lyric when Jada and that man,

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 2>that finance man roll around in the flowers. Do you

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:11.159
<v Speaker 2>remember that?

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they like and there's like that all those

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:18.120
<v Speaker 2>nice booty shots they both yes, yes, yes, their booties

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>are out and stuff, and I'm like, ooh, I would

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>love to do that in real life and a movie.

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:28.679
<v Speaker 2>And then I was thinking about my escapades in nature

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 2>had a couple and it's really there's this euphoric feeling.

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like tribal in a way m hm, because I think, well,

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.239
<v Speaker 2>obviously we're all connected to the earth and we used

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 2>to live in smaller groups and when we were a

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>hunter gatherers whatever, and would have sex out of nature

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 2>all the time. And so I gave this dude head

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 2>on the side of a mountain one time on the

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Wisdom Tree hike and it was like right by the

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>American flag and there was like the Wisdom Tree. I

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know if anyone saw us. There was condos and

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 2>ship like off in the distance. But it was really

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>it was really hot but also beautiful. Yeah, you know,

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.200
<v Speaker 2>like you could die fall off the mountain.

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Trait there was like it was really beautiful. You could die.

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Amount of risk, the perfect amount of risk. Someone could

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 2>walk up and see going to town. Yeah, and like

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 2>literally someone walked up. I kid you not thirty seconds

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 2>after he popped and I was like, ooh a good thing.

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 2>I go to work talk got it done in time.

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but that was pretty cool.

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>How do we can I do? How does that happen?

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Is it somebody that it's not? Let me ask, speaking

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>of my journalism on do you did? Was the guy

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that you saw on the trail?

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 2>You were like, oh or no, no, no, no, you

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.959
<v Speaker 2>were dating? No we were dating? Oh okay, we were

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 2>dating and like you know, you want adventure and you

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 2>want a spicy.

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then yeah, did y'all pre plan it? I always

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>wonder about that, like do y'all go, oh, we're gonna

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>go this hike?

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 2>That kind of It was just.

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 1>A moment, so it's real romantic.

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh. I was like, well, you know, I'm kind

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 2>of ornery like that. So I just asked the question.

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I said, Oh, wow, I wonder how many people mess

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 2>around up here? Because we made it to the top

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 2>of the hike where there's the one, yeah, the one

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>wisdom tree, and then there's the flag that like hangs

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>off the side of the mountain and there's like these

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>big rocks and yeah, it's you can see forever. Yeah.

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I just like ask the question, like, I wonder if

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 2>people mess around? To me, I wonder how many people

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 2>have messed around here? It's like probably a lot. Why

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>do you want to? And I was like I could

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 2>be down. I just kind of.

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Dropped lovely, Yes, I love that.

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Knew what to do.

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Period, he understood. He understood, Yeah, I love that.

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever done anything in nature?

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Is an alleyway?

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Nature that's a city escape? I don't know, you've never

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>been bent over a log? Or anything.

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>This is my favorite conversation. Have I ever been bent

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>over a log?

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 2>No? But I mean I really I think people should

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 2>be having sex in nature more often. There's nothing like

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>staring at a river when you're bent over a log,

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>having your pussy eaten from the back. It's beautiful.

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I need that on a shirt, on a shirt. It

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>sounds the way you're saying. It sounds beautiful. And so

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I will make I will make Wow. Am I gonna

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>do this? I will. I will make a statement right

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 1>here on this podcast so you can hold me accountable

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and everyone listening. This summer, I will get bent over

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>a log in nature, in front of a stream and

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>have my pussy ate out from the bed.

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, watching a stream.

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Watching a stream, a deer might frolic by, how sweet,

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>how beautiful?

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>It's Yes, it's a sensory thing.

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>It's really there's a lot going on, there's not happening.

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>It feels like getting coming back to yourself, if you will.

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 2>We're getting in touch with our tribal selves.

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Who we really are. Yes, and then you get to

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>come along with it. This sounds great. So I'm going

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to I'm going to because don't knock it till you

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>try it. And so an older version of me has

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>famously not fucked in a tent, and I'm still going

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>to keep that version of me in today. But I

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>will find me a log to be bent over in

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>front of a river, and I will report back, Yes, Yes,

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>find me a log to be bent over while I

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>take that log. Amen, somebody, Ah, shall we do some

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>messy mail?

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Let's do the mess mail?

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay? This one says is it wrong to ask your

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>partner if they are okay if you see other people,

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>if you're not comfortable with the idea of them seeing others?

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I don't think it's wrong. I think it would

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 2>be wrong to Uh, there's no right answer, because every

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 2>couple's different. But sure, I think it's wrong to expect

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 2>that they wouldn't also want to. Yes, people, you can ask.

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you.

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean you can ask, but yeah, I think it

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>would be wrong if you then were like no, no,

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>this is a one way street.

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree, Like, I don't think it's wrong to have

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the desire to see others but maybe not be comfortable.

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to interrogate it and be like, well,

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>why am I not comfortable with my partner also seeing

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>others if I want to see others and kind of

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>get to the root of what that is.

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've thought about that as well, because I don't

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>really like the idea of my partner seeing another woman.

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 2>But like if I dating like a bye guy, I

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know where the bye guys are, but if you're

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 2>if you're out.

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>There out here, they are here, hello, Hello.

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought, maybe it wouldn't bother me if another if

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>he saw another guy, or if or if we incorporated

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 2>another dude like into the fold, but like something about

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 2>another woman, I would start comparing myself. I think, sure,

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I think I would get insecure. Yeah, you know what

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>So that's fair, that's fair, And that's also such a

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>fair thing to know, Like if you were to come

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>up in this conversation, it's like, oh, there's nuance here

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that maybe I would be comfortable with you seeing somebody else,

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>but not if it's somebody that I feel like I

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 1>might be in competition with.

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And typically the guys I date are just straight

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 2>as an arrow, and they you know, probably won't would

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 2>want another woman. And I just don't know if I'm

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 2>secure enough to do that.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's fair, and like, you know, I feel

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>like the security you know, for this type of question.

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think we're talking about non monogamy and

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>then potentially even polyamory eventually, but you know, it's like

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>that type of security you can only build with your partner.

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>And so I do think that, like for this person,

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to be transparent about like I

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>would love to make this thing happen, but I also

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>have reservations because I'm afraid of you seeing other people

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and then be able to like figure it out together

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>and how you can make it so it feels secure

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>for both of you. And it might be that like

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 1>we just keep seeing each other and say a monogamy,

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>but it also might be that like we both have

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>a say in who the other people are or or

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>we don't need to know about it, or like you

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>could do that when I'm traveling. But you may be

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>able to find a solution that makes both of you

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable. But you have to be transparent. You have

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to I think you have to say the thing like

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I am interested in this, but I also have reservations

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>over here that I'm also working through, which is that

0:33:58.120 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know if I'm comfortable with you seeing

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>other people. I think it gets wrong if you were

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to impose that though based off of your feeling being

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>like okay, and you can't see other people, Like I

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>don't like that that one way street you were talking about, Like, right,

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that's not that to me? Is is it loving?

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:16.280
<v Speaker 2>No? That just feels selfish.

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's and controlling and controlling. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay.

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 1>This one says, do you think looks matter more than

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>personality more?

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 2>No? But you kind of need both. Yeah, yeah, because

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like I need the primal I need the primal

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 2>thing if we're gonna do yeah, sexy time, But like otherwise,

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it just feels like a friendship.

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I think when people ask this question, they're always thinking

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>and maybe this person isn't true. But I feel when

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>this question gets asked, it's usually being viewed in what

0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>are the external standards or the cultural standards of beauty

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>as like as opposed to what do I as an

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:07.240
<v Speaker 1>individual find attractive? And so I think if we're all honest,

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, looks do matter, but you don't need

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:14.800
<v Speaker 1>to look like Brad Pitt or whatever that conventional somebody

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>just said Bradpit recently, so that's why that's coming out.

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, like whatever is like icon of like

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>beauty that we are upholding in culture, I don't need

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>my partner to look like that. I need my partner

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to look like what I'm attracted to. And so I

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>would agree looks and personality do matter because I would

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>like to be attracted to my partner as well.

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.280
<v Speaker 2>We need to get off of like what society deems

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 2>as attractive or acceptable, because if everybody just worried more

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 2>about what they actually like, I think we would be

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 2>better off. I think everyone would feel a lot more

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 2>desired and loved because people's palate for what they sign

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 2>sexy is so varied, but you wouldn't know it by

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 2>pop culture or by yeah, what they force feed you know,

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.280
<v Speaker 2>down our throats every day on Instagram or wherever.

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that, and I it becomes like a

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>question about preferences, which is something that I started interrogating

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe like tenish years ago, just like where my preferences

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.720
<v Speaker 1>were coming from and what they were about, and really

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>learning that a lot of my quote unquote preferences were

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>adopted that I adopted them based off of social pressure

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and social cues, but weren't necessarily what I found attractive.

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 1>And when I started to pull at the string, I

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>realized that I found a whole smorgas board of things attractive,

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was attracted to so much more than I

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>was allowing myself to be attracted to. And so I

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's anything wrong with looks mattering, but I

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>think that maybe the question is, are you limiting what

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>your idea of beauty is when you're thinking about looks

0:36:58.440 --> 0:36:59.399
<v Speaker 1>versus personality?

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what you're in what your body responds to?

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh. Yes.

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people deny what their body responds to.

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>One thousand percent one thousand percent as like you know,

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not supposed to or I can't. I talked about this,

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I wrote a piece about this about when I wear

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.879
<v Speaker 1>a sports bra, how I kind of have three reactions

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 1>for men. One is like, uh, you know, go off,

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 1>sys you look great. One is like extreme masculinity and rudeness,

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and the other is the short circuiting, which is what

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about, where people don't know that they're allowed

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to be attracted to it or what they're being attracted to.

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like yeah, you got to explore, like there's some

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 1>things that you got told that you can't find as

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>beautiful that you absolutely can and and what is your

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>body responding to?

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 2>And that is oh my god.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like listen to you, listen to your body.

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Not to dive into the trams stuff too much. But

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 2>the short circuiting when you mentioned the short circuiting, I mean,

0:37:56.080 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 2>talk about a short circuit when these straight men find

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 2>out sometimes because you know, a lot of times they

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>just don't know the tea or whatever. And then and

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 2>then I can bear witness when someone fills them in

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 2>or maybe I fill them in or whatever. Yeah, and

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 2>the short circuit is crazy lazy. It's like what is

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:23.399
<v Speaker 2>happening right now? Like you see it unfold and you're

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 2>just like you're okay, yes, yes, it's really going on.

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Like it's so obvious that their body reacted in a

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 2>positive way. But then they're yes, catches everything that they

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.320
<v Speaker 2>programmed to think is like it's like a time lapse.

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.879
<v Speaker 2>It's like everything's catching up, and it's like and they're

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>just like, it's a it's a complete short circuit.

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's wild.

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:52.359
<v Speaker 2>It's really bizarre. And then sometimes you may see them

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 2>out somewhere again, and like they don't even know how

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 2>to like look at you or talk to you. And

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.359
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like, Babe, you were on my you

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 2>were on my body. You were on my like you

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 2>were you were at me, sir, don't even don't.

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 1>Don't you play? Don't you know? Yeah? And for who?

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing, like who are you playing? Who are

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you doing that for? Who are you setting your allegiance to.

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.919
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're denying what you're attracted to for the

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>credibility of the people who aren't fucking you, Like, like

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>what do we like? You're denying yourself love or romance

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>or or sexual pleasure because you're afraid of what some

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:36.479
<v Speaker 1>men you'll never meet think, Like.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.399
<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, I guess well they care. I think they

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 2>care more about what their bros think than what they

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 2>actually like.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Yes, which in some ways, and not to go too

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 1>far into this, but I also when I hear that,

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's a little gay to me.

0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel Okay, Like you're so a you are.

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>So trying not to be gay, and yet your entire

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>personality is being dictated by the acceptance of these other men.

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Right. It's like, well, that feels I don't know, it

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 2>just feels a little homolite.

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 1>A little homolte.

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, this says, This says.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I was with the same male partner for seventeen years.

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>We have now been separated for a year. I would

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 1>like to explore dating women. I had the most amazing

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 1>first dates with this beautiful woman, and the vibe is

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely there. But I am struggling with how to make

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the first move. I really want to kiss her.

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this matters, but is this a

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 2>guy or a girl?

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I oh, interesting, I'm not sure. I was with the

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>same male partner for seventeen years. We've now separated for

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>a year. I would like to explore dating women. I

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>have the most amazing first dates with the beautiful woman,

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and the vibes is really different there. I I I

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 1>assumed that it was a woman who is separated from

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>her male partner and is now exploring women. But maybe

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that's maybe that's not a wild assumption, but like a

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>biased assumption or a default assumption. But that was what

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I was going off of. Oh, okay, they had the Yeah,

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 1>they had a date. They're starting to explore with women,

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.720
<v Speaker 1>but they don't know how to make the first move,

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and they really want to kiss this this woman and

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 1>they don't know how to make the first move.

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 2>If there's an extended period of eye contact, I think

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 2>you can kind of like ask the question, or is

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 2>that is that a buzzkill? I can be sexy when

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 2>someone's like, can I kiss you? Like yeah, just like direct.

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I find that sexy. It's not sexy in the movie.

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Is just supposed to just kiss a person, but I

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>find somebody yeah the movie's just like yeah, But I

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 1>find it really sexy when someone says a really want

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to kiss you right now.

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 2>And you have to say it in the right tone.

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>You can't sure, you can't mess up the mood. You

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 2>gotta just be low volume and direct.

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, low volume and direct. Yeah yeah you don't.

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>What can I can see right now?

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Like you be a little smoky with it?

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you got.

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>You gotta think about like your favorite I think like

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>your your sexy avatar. Everyone needs a sexy avatar, So

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.319
<v Speaker 1>like whoever that is for you. I feel like, for

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the longest time, I'm terrible at this, but like llo,

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>cool ja, I grew up like that was my like

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 1>sexy avatar, so like I would try and emulate an

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:39.800
<v Speaker 1>llow cool when I was trying to be sexy. I

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>was unsuccessful hard time. How dare you go?

0:42:49.760 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm not seeing it.

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>It's like I'm not seeing that for you, but I

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 1>promised you, like give me, give me a little like

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>if I have a little a little tequila spright and

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the dance floor, have a little move. I

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 1>can give you. I'm from New York, you know I can.

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I can get a little thus.

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I can have it.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can give it.

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I can give a look from.

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Time to time, but then I then I crack into

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a smile. But I will say I do agree with

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the directness, the low tone, the can I kiss you?

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Very very? What is it very, Kathleen turn the situation?

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yeah. I think that also, like if you're

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>continuing to see a person, there is a higher percentage

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>that they do want that kiss, Like they're continuing to

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>engage with you, continuing to spend time with you, and

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>so you're not I think trust sometimes, I think sometimes

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:54.240
<v Speaker 1>we forget to trust the actions of what's happening that Like, listen,

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>there are there are plenty of people who will continue

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:57.839
<v Speaker 1>to go on dates with people that they don't want

0:43:57.880 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 1>to go on dates with for various reasons, but for

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the most part, if somebody's going out with you a second,

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 1>a third time, they probably want to.

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm surprised. Like, if the energy is there, it

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 2>usually happens on the first date. No, am I like loose?

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're loose. No, No, of course you

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 1>have on the first day. But I think sometimes I

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm sure can have on the first date.

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:30.280
<v Speaker 1>But I think some people might be like a little

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>more we're a little more liberated, you and I. You

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I think some people might be

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 1>a little more traditional, a little more rules. Like we

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>have to have a certain amount of time to gather

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>before we have a first kiss, before we have sex.

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I like to know what kind of milk I'm getting,

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>so I want to know from that from the jump,

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>because if that limitary right now, that kiss ain't hitting

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:50.839
<v Speaker 1>the way I need to hit, then you're not getting

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>a second date. So I do it right.

0:44:54.280 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, sweetness to it, Like you know how some

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>people just their body chemistry tastes a little sweet, you.

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Know, Yes, of course, absolutely, I want to know if

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:08.760
<v Speaker 1>that's what you're giving.

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Your skin tastes like your scent, like you need to yes,

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.280
<v Speaker 2>before I invest too much time.

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, because the first day I got all primmed up

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and like, I'm cute as fuck, and I don't want

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to do all that again. If you kiss, be good,

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:30.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot. It's a lot. I will also suggest

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>keep aqua for on you. I don't literally I'm holding

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.320
<v Speaker 1>an aqua for I don't like a dry kiss.

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't like a dry kiss either.

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't like a dry kiss. You gotta you gotta

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>make sure before you ask for that.

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't want crusty's floating off. No.

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 1>No, you better exfoliate your lips first and foremost. You

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 1>gotta be drinking your water well.

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 2>This and this is a p s A for a

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 2>straight man. Do your manscaping, do your big one, do

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:59.800
<v Speaker 2>your lineup, do your exfoliations. Yes, you know you're hot, Tael,

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 2>whatever you got to do, don't come looking dusty. Don't

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I even like a little you.

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Know, I don't because use those fingers at some point.

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't exactly you know, I get.

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 1>That rounded tip. Absolutely not. Yeah, it's it's all fun

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.839
<v Speaker 1>and games until you know I got a splinter from

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>your cuticle up in my pussy and I don't want that. Yeah,

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm with you. I I do think p s

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>A to the straight man and whoever else needs it.

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 1>You could take care of yourselves, your skin a little

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>bit more. It is not gay, you know what I'm saying.

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 2>And wash because you never.

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Want If you don't wash that back door before you

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>ask somebody to eat it, it's cray.

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to even suck your dick if I

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 2>can smell what's going on below it, period, I don't

0:46:57.719 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 2>want to.

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Now it's disrespectful. Wash it, use some soap and water,

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 1>wash it all. Absolutely. I take a shower before I

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 1>go on a date, even if I took a shower

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:11.879
<v Speaker 1>earlier in the day. If I'm going out that night,

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take a shower, especially if I know we

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.359
<v Speaker 1>might get naked together. Because I want you to get

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the smooth I want you to get. I want you

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to get the silky soft, smooth, clean version of me

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.800
<v Speaker 1>at all times because I because I adore you. You

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, and I want to give me

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 1>pleasure and part of the pleasure. Yeah, the experience is

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 1>part of the pleasure. Whenever I feel can I tell

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 1>you trace I do this now? Which is that like

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 1>if I'm talking to a guy and I grab his hands,

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and if that hand those calluses cut me up a

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit, I really do have to move on. It's

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 1>just for me. I know for some people they love

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:50.439
<v Speaker 1>a callous What if.

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>It's from weightlifting though, and like the body is tea.

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like I get it. I get it,

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 1>and I weightlift too. You must use those paths.

0:47:58.320 --> 0:47:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I gotta wear gloves.

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess you gotta wear those gloves or use your

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 1>pads or you know what it is. That's that's not

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not a one to one always. But I do

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 1>get concerned when I'm like, well, your hands are scratching me.

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 1>You know if I touch your back and your back

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:15.839
<v Speaker 1>is also scratching me, I get like, we have to exfoliate. Y'all,

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.240
<v Speaker 1>get them gloves, exfolian gloves.

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Sugar scrub, Yeah.

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Sugar scrub, okay, And I've all I told y'all here,

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 1>you scrub like that. You put your almond oil on

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>with the water still there. You add your cocoa butter

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 1>or your shade butter okay, and you show up and

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you show out, Okay, I love it.

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I love a man that smells good.

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh don't you love a man who smells good? I

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 1>love to hug a man, and I'm like, oh, stay

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 1>right here. I love the man who smells good. Find

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:50.360
<v Speaker 1>your scent, love, find your scent. Okay. This one says

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I recently had an amazing hookup with someone from Field.

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I also matched with their partner. The partner is stupid hot,

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and I would like to bone both of them. Do

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I do that? Do I mention it to either of them?

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Is there any obvious answer? And I'm brained dead, horny

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.919
<v Speaker 1>and can't think. Please help? What do you think?

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't have experience with Field?

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't either.

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Isn't it that? Isn't that what it's about?

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like in Field there they love the non

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 1>monogamy of it all. I feel like, yeah, yeah, you're

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:36.799
<v Speaker 1>not wrong, that branding was on point.

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I would say, yeah, I want to bone

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:42.320
<v Speaker 2>your partner.

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah, if you want to bone, don't know

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:57.359
<v Speaker 1>what time it is? Cut to the chase to too, honey? Yeah,

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean I I feel like I feel like It's

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 1>only complicated if you were like, oh, I we started

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:05.319
<v Speaker 1>to talk to this guy and then I saw his

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 1>partner and I realized I only want to bone his partner.

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>That's where it would get like maybe.

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Tricky, You're gonna have to take one for the team

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 2>and fuck the other person too.

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, if you started talking to them

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>like just make it all uh, make it a vibe.

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, or but you know, also I had done

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 1>this once. I like, uh, well this is slightly different.

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 1>But I hooked up with the guy, and then I

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 1>hooked up with another guy and then I found out

0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 1>they were best friends. But I liked the second guy

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 1>better than I liked the first guy, so I kept

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 1>sucking the second guy. And I have talked to the

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 1>first guy, which the first guy was great and it

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 1>was great text, but like, I just had a better

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:49.240
<v Speaker 1>chemistry with the second guy. I've also never spoken about

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:51.839
<v Speaker 1>it with well, I don't really talk to the first

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.839
<v Speaker 1>guy anyway, but like, I've never mentioned it. May oh

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 1>now wait, now I'm real time processing. Do I need

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 1>to do? I need to mention it?

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, they might know, now I don't know.

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>They probably already know. Yeah, I mean I guess transparency

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:11.239
<v Speaker 1>is always the best policy. I don't think there's a

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 1>problem here. If you want to fuck them both and

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:15.359
<v Speaker 1>they're both on field, it sounds like that's what their

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 1>vibe is. I think though, it would be tricky if

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 1>like you were in a thing with one of them

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and then you wanted to start with another one and

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:26.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't you know, like they didn't know that they were

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>both talking to you. That's when it gets complicated. And

0:51:30.480 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I do want to go back to this thing with

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the best friends, which is that like I didn't know

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that they were best friends right at the time that

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I so I found it after a while of hooking

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:39.839
<v Speaker 1>up with.

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 2>The second progressive but not that progressive.

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not like, yeah, I'm not. I'm

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.480
<v Speaker 1>not trying to fuck the friend group if you will.

0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm not getting rammed through by the crew.

0:51:54.080 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 5>No, I mean yeah, Well depends on the cru Okay, okay, okay.

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 1>This one says, how has being sexy or feeling sexy

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:15.480
<v Speaker 1>evolved over the course of your life and where do

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you see it now? I love this question.

0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:21.759
<v Speaker 2>I was a stripper for eight years, which paid my

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 2>way through acting school, and so being sexualized and being

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:30.720
<v Speaker 2>sexy and whatever. It just was like such a big

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 2>part of my life that now, I yeah, the mystique

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 2>of it kind of wore off. So I think then

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 2>it was about being direct and provocative, and now it's

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:48.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of about being effortless, a little less effort And

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 2>so I think what people see when I'm like out

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:55.239
<v Speaker 2>at a bar in a little Maxi dress, not you know,

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:59.320
<v Speaker 2>a tight Maxi dress, dancing the night away, just really

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:04.799
<v Speaker 2>enjoying them, I think that they're consuming something that I'm

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 2>not necessary I don't I'm not necessarily concerned with.

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Ah. Yeah, one of my partners he has he exudes

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:20.879
<v Speaker 1>sexiness in a way that just is like he takes

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a photo and you're like, that is a sexy man.

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 1>But he doesn't. He thinks about sex, but like not

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 1>in the way that I think people think he does.

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Like he's aware of like our sex, but in general,

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>he's like not really bothered about like sex with uh.

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say with other people because I'm

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.759
<v Speaker 1>not talking about like monogamy, but just like his day

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to day isn't guided or directed by sex in the

0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 1>way that I think people project onto him because of

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 1>how he looks, and so for me, I like have

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:56.439
<v Speaker 1>to break down and this is processing in real time,

0:53:56.480 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 1>So I have to break down sexy because I'm like, oh,

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 1>there is this thing that is sexy, which is a

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 1>physical attraction or this energy of desire that somebody kind

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 1>of exudes. But then there's also the sexy, which I

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:12.600
<v Speaker 1>think is the more important sexy, and the one that's

0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 1>actually long lasting, which is just a person existing in

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 1>however they exist. That is to say that like my

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 1>partner who is a dancer model kind of gives you

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:30.280
<v Speaker 1>traditional sexy is sexy, as well as the fucking nerd

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 1>who wants to talk about you know, sci fi and

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, fucking cartoons all day and anime like that's

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:40.279
<v Speaker 1>also sexy because they know who they are and they

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:43.040
<v Speaker 1>stand strong in it. And I think that that has

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:46.919
<v Speaker 1>been helpful for me to figure out what is my sexy.

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:48.479
<v Speaker 1>And I find that I don't know if you find

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 1>this for yourself. I find that, like, especially being somebody

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that is on camera, that like, there's what I Brandon

0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:00.480
<v Speaker 1>think is sexy and how I feel sexy, and then

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>there is my portrayal of sexy that I know to

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.839
<v Speaker 1>be consumed sexy to be consumed which are not the

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:14.440
<v Speaker 1>same thing, right, right, Like how I show up in

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:16.880
<v Speaker 1>my quote unquote set. I just posted a photo today

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, it's me shirtless with like my my

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:25.279
<v Speaker 1>denim jeans, like the button undone, and I'm like on

0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>my forearm and I'm looking into camera and my lips

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 1>are juicy, and I know that that's going to be

0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:34.760
<v Speaker 1>consumed as sexy. But that's not necessarily when I feel

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:40.560
<v Speaker 1>my sexiest, right I feel my sexiest when I'm like home, shirtless,

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>wearing my colorful cardigan and my like crocheted hat like

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.759
<v Speaker 1>my barber made for me, and my like sweats and

0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like chilling. That's when I feel sexy. But

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:53.840
<v Speaker 1>arguably you might see that i'd be like, girl, no,

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:54.959
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I'm saying.

0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Definitely it's grown over time as well. But sexy was

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.960
<v Speaker 2>always one of those things. Maybe it's because I grew

0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:05.040
<v Speaker 2>up on Little Kim. I don't know. I just always

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 2>channeled that, like, yeah.

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Low Kim was your avatar elqu J's mind. Low Kim

0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:11.719
<v Speaker 1>was your.

0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Cam Adina Howard. Yeah, Sharon Stone, Oh yes, if you

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:20.520
<v Speaker 2>mix those women up, you might have a little bit

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 2>of trace going on. I think it's just like, it's

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:26.439
<v Speaker 2>not to say that I don't like being sexy. I do.

0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:29.759
<v Speaker 2>I think it's great. I just think it's it's not

0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:32.680
<v Speaker 2>something I don't know. It's not something I had to

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:36.480
<v Speaker 2>really fight for. And I want to be honest about

0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 2>that because I think there's there's there's probably privilege in that,

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 2>but there's also there's also a lot of trauma there

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:48.359
<v Speaker 2>and heartbreak and you know, being the forbidden fruit and

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 2>all of these things that come along with it.

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask if there's a burden of sexy

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and like what the burden as much as you want

0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:57.920
<v Speaker 1>to share, not but like, what is like the burden

0:56:58.120 --> 0:56:58.760
<v Speaker 1>of sexy?

0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 2>The burden of sex? See that I'm actually a diehard

0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 2>romantic and so a lot of people will will just

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 2>want to taste or just you know, want to consume

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:15.120
<v Speaker 2>you for a moment, but not necessarily bringing home to mom.

0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 2>And that is probably the duality that's hard to sit

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 2>with sometimes the fantasy.

0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 1>They want the fantasy, but not the realness.

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially when you add in the trends of it all,

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's bizarre to be It's bizarre to be

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:38.960
<v Speaker 2>desired so heavily and then know that it's very surface

0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:42.200
<v Speaker 2>and you filter. Your filter has to get real sharp.

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:44.400
<v Speaker 1>And when you say you're filter, you mean like figuring

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 1>out like who's there for you and who's just kind

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of there tasting.

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, decoding what their approach is really giving.

0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Are there similar flags or patterns that you've noticed when

0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you are discerning between somebody who is there just for

0:57:59.880 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 1>like the fantasy of sexy versus like who you are? Like,

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:06.360
<v Speaker 1>are there a common You're like, it's all like somebody

0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:08.880
<v Speaker 1>who always says this or like they always do this thing,

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, my that's my scooby doo. Ears go

0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:12.280
<v Speaker 1>up because it's like, oh.

0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Work, yeah. Well, typically if it gets too sexual too soon,

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:21.880
<v Speaker 2>uh huh, then I get a little turned off. They

0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:24.440
<v Speaker 2>become basic to me because I'm like, oh, yeah, okay,

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 2>you're in that pile over there that masks people over

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 2>there that just want to bust a nut or whatever

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 2>you want. Like it's a vibe.

0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 1>It's very relatable to say, oh, the world sees me

0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 1>as this, but I'm craving this other thing. So if

0:58:44.000 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the world is perceiving sexy but I'm a diehard romantic,

0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 1>then there's a an internal reckoning that has to happen

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:53.040
<v Speaker 1>as you move through the world so that you can

0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like stay true to who you are. But then there's

0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:59.520
<v Speaker 1>also this energy that you're navigating, and I would imagine

0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:01.760
<v Speaker 1>that it's taking some time to figure out what those

0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:05.800
<v Speaker 1>coping tools are or what those tools are to navigate

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that so that you can stand in your truth and

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 1>yourself as you do. And so I'm curious what that

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:15.920
<v Speaker 1>is for you, or what that what those tools are,

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:17.400
<v Speaker 1>or what that reckoning looks like.

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, I think I'm still figuring it out lately.

0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:28.160
<v Speaker 2>It's just being careful where I put my energy. I

0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:32.840
<v Speaker 2>know that sounds really broad, but no, I also take

0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:35.400
<v Speaker 2>people for what they show me to be. You know

0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 2>that my Angelou.

0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:39.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah shows you there. I believe them the first time. Yep.

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And so if you're showing me that you're basic

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:47.240
<v Speaker 2>or just sex driven, then I may not even say anything.

0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I may just log it and you know, proceed accordingly.

0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know. I try to hold out hope

0:59:57.360 --> 1:00:00.040
<v Speaker 2>for love, but I've been single a long time, so

1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm also trying to make peace with the fact that

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I might not get that. In this lifetime. Not to

1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 2>say I've never had love, but I've never had like

1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 2>a very long term relationship like past maybe two years,

1:00:14.960 --> 1:00:17.400
<v Speaker 2>and I've just, for whatever reason, this just hasn't been

1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:21.400
<v Speaker 2>in the cards for me. And I'm coming to terms

1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:27.880
<v Speaker 2>now in middle age that maybe that's as romantic as

1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:30.520
<v Speaker 2>I am, but that's just not a part of my

1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:34.920
<v Speaker 2>purpose here on earth and or at least in this

1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:40.440
<v Speaker 2>go around. And can I find contentment outside of that,

1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:45.080
<v Speaker 2>because I think that was my driving force for so long.

1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Love was like the thing I dreamt about and wanted

1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the most, more than career even And now I'm just

1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:57.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of trying to recenter what might matter the most

1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:00.520
<v Speaker 2>and what I can be with.

1:01:00.920 --> 1:01:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a community or other people around you

1:01:03.440 --> 1:01:07.000
<v Speaker 1>who are also like experiencing the same thing in terms

1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:09.640
<v Speaker 1>of like looking for romance and love but haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>able to find it. And I asked this because I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is a common thing that I hear amongst

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<v Speaker 1>my girlfriends that are navigating, Like, oh, I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>there was going to be this like romantic, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>movie kind of love, and now you know, I'm turning

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight next week. You so, like my friends are

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<v Speaker 1>in thirties forties, and it's like, oh, everything that I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this was going to look like it's not. And

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<v Speaker 1>so now I'm needing to like shift it. But I'm wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing that in community or do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're doing that solo?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little bit of both. I have a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of friends who do have healthy relationships, but even those

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<v Speaker 2>relationships don't look like what they thought right, like right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm realizing with the divorce rate, this fantasy that

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<v Speaker 2>we've been sold is not always the reality. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>changing your lens, I guess, and how you view the

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<v Speaker 2>world and what is positive, what you should be grateful for,

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<v Speaker 2>and what is possible and what's icing on the cake?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of just reconfiguring is going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm forty three and so I do this

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<v Speaker 2>is getting way deeper than I thought. But like I

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<v Speaker 2>long for, like I long for being the twenty something

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful girl who's in love and I never really got that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I never really got that. And so now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, what do I do now? And what

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<v Speaker 2>is the new hope? Because if you don't have hope,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you have? What do you how do you

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<v Speaker 2>keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true, that's true. Yeah, Yeah, we need hope.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is, you need hope to keep pushing through.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really a sad topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it doesn't have to be. We can move it,

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<v Speaker 1>We can switch it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>No I I thank you for sharing with that, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there are so many people who are

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<v Speaker 1>reconfiguring in whatever way that looks like, whether that's romantically, professionally.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that our generation we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this off mic a little earlier, which is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we thought the adults had it figured out, and so

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<v Speaker 1>now we're adults and we're like, oh, they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing figured out, and so like now we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out and trying to figure out what what

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<v Speaker 1>is relationship? What is marriage? What is love? What is community?

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<v Speaker 1>What is work? What are the things that I was

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<v Speaker 1>taught I need to have value in? What should I

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<v Speaker 1>actually have value in? And I think above all, like

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<v Speaker 1>what is my happiness? And is my happiness though you

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<v Speaker 1>know the pick white the house with the white fence,

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<v Speaker 1>or is it something else? And can I give in

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<v Speaker 1>what we were talking about earlier with preferences and beauty

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<v Speaker 1>preferences it's like, can I expand what would make me happy?

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<v Speaker 1>Or can I expand what I thought this would look

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<v Speaker 1>like and and diversify or you know, make the buffet

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<v Speaker 1>the smorgasbord a little wider so that I'm not just

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<v Speaker 1>beholden to Oh, it's supposed to look like me and

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<v Speaker 1>that man and three kids in the suburbs, right, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of us were pointing towards, we

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<v Speaker 1>were taught to point towards that, and now the reckoning

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<v Speaker 1>present days like, Okay, if that's not happening, I'm still here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I still deserve to be happy, and I still

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<v Speaker 1>deserve to live a big, expansive, beautiful life, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just might need to reassess what I'm valuing perhaps, and so,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't do that unless you saw about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really appreciate you talking about it because I

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<v Speaker 1>know that for people listening, it's like, oh, that that

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<v Speaker 1>is maybe the wall that they're bumping up against, Like

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<v Speaker 1>some of who are bumping bumping up against these walls

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't know they don't even know they're bumping

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<v Speaker 1>up against the wall or what the wall is, or

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<v Speaker 1>who put the wall there? And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that society put those walls there, but it's our.

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<v Speaker 2>Job to break additions are putting there from such a

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<v Speaker 2>young age. Yes, you know, expectations will have you fucked

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<v Speaker 2>up out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Say it again, expectations will have you fucked up out here?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you fucked up out here instead of just being

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<v Speaker 2>in the literal moment?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Trace, thank you so much. This was like fucking everything. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you very so good to see yours.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, baby, I love you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know we're hose here, but hose with heart. So

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<v Speaker 1>before we part ways, let me speak to yours. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I promise this summer, and I'm saying it again,

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<v Speaker 1>and you hold me accountable. I don't make it happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will make it happen. I will let myself

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<v Speaker 1>get bent over a log to take a log in nature,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will report back. Or maybe I'll bend somebody

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<v Speaker 1>over a log and take and give them dick. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. But I promise you I will let

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<v Speaker 1>myself experience sex in nature, and I'll report back and

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<v Speaker 1>let you know how I feel about it. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's that. I really love this allow yourself to explore

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<v Speaker 1>your attraction preferences. What do you find beautiful? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, this is a part of that disruptive

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<v Speaker 1>curiosity I was talking about at the top of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what are you actually attracted to? And can

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<v Speaker 1>you give yourself permission to be attracted to those things?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you also ask yourself why you were attracted to

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<v Speaker 1>certain things? Right? Like, is your attraction to this certain

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<v Speaker 1>type or this certain build your own or because you

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<v Speaker 1>were taught that that's what's attractive. I've talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>in my book You Got to Be You and Online,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just like growing up being fed images of

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<v Speaker 1>whiteness as beautiful and downloading that to mean that my

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<v Speaker 1>dark skin isn't beautiful. And around eighteen nineteen when I

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<v Speaker 1>went to my first big breakup and I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the school therapists and why you had a therapist and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember saying to her, I don't think I'll ever

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<v Speaker 1>be as attractive as a white man. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>until she looked at me, a white woman looked at

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<v Speaker 1>me crazy. I was like, oh, I have a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And I realized I had the problem because I had

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<v Speaker 1>never asked about my preferences. I'd never asked what I

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<v Speaker 1>actually thought about myself. I'd never asked about what I

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<v Speaker 1>was attracted to and if that's what I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be attracted to or if that's what I was being

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<v Speaker 1>told to be attracted to. No, honey, baby, the black

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<v Speaker 1>or the berry, the sweet or the juice, and a's

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<v Speaker 1>on tea. That's period. I know what beauty is, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have an expansive concept of what beauty is

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<v Speaker 1>and what I'm attracted to, and it just continues to

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<v Speaker 1>evolve and grow and expand because I've been willing to

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<v Speaker 1>ask those hard questions. You know, where are your preferences?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are your attractions coming from? And do they belong

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<v Speaker 1>to you? And are there other things that you're attracted

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<v Speaker 1>to that you've been taught you shouldn't be attracted to?

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<v Speaker 1>And can you can you start to make space for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself to to make that okay? Because it is okay, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know that like one cookie cutter version of

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<v Speaker 1>beauty borring Okay. By the way, Also, when I say

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<v Speaker 1>smooth like I like you know, I say you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like, you know, like a smooth man who smells

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<v Speaker 1>good I'm not talking about hairless, be hairy. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love hair. I love hairy. Also, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be hairless, I love it. What I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>is being soft. I want soft. That's why I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to moisturize. So I don't know who needs to

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<v Speaker 1>hear this, but get you some aveno love, get you

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<v Speaker 1>some keels love. Get you some shade butter or some

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<v Speaker 1>cocoa butter, some almond oil, some hoba oil. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just get you something to like soften its skin. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>moisturize your dick, but also moisturize your whole body and

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<v Speaker 1>moisturize your face. Your face is a moisturizer. Softness, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's good for you. But also, like when your

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<v Speaker 1>partner's touching, you, get them something smooth to touch. Now listen,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe your partner likes rough and so you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>your partner. But for me, Lord, I want it to

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<v Speaker 1>be smooth. I wanted to be soft. Don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be soft. Harry Hoes, my hairy hoes. I love you, God,

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<v Speaker 1>I do love a hairy ho expectations. As Trey said,

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<v Speaker 1>well have you fucked up out here? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that so many of us can relate to what we

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<v Speaker 1>thought we were supposed to be or what we thought

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<v Speaker 1>we were supposed to have, or who we thought we

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to be, and then needing to shift that

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<v Speaker 1>and bring it up again. And that's where that curiosity

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<v Speaker 1>comes in, Like what is happiness actually? What is a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I really want? What is the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>thought would make me happy? Is that still true? And

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<v Speaker 1>what are the other ways that I can live if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get this thing that I thought I always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted or I may even still want, like it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you like I want the romance. But if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get that or that version of it that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for, does that mean I'm destined to be unhappy?

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<v Speaker 1>Or can I again reconfigure or redress at what I

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<v Speaker 1>want my life to look?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the hope? You know what I'm saying. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a relationship with hope, even in the midst

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<v Speaker 1>of darkness, even in the midst of the shadows and

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<v Speaker 1>of the sadness. You have to maintain a relationship with hope.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think when we think about reconfiguring life

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<v Speaker 1>for that happiness that is dancing with hope and going no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if I don't get what I thought this would

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<v Speaker 1>look like, I still get to be happy. I still

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<v Speaker 1>get to be loved. I get to feel loved and

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<v Speaker 1>I get to love. I get to be compassionate. I

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<v Speaker 1>get to experience the best this life has to offer.

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<v Speaker 1>I just might have to expand what that looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, of course I do love. And this is important.

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<v Speaker 1>When someone shows who they are, believe in the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, doctor Angelo, that that is maybe my next tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>That is That is everything as you navigate and pursue relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they be romantic, platonic, familial, whatever, it is professional

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<v Speaker 1>when someone shows you who they are. Don't excuse it, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. If that person is a dick to the waiter, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be a dick to you. If that person

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<v Speaker 1>was able to uh, you know, if that person is

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<v Speaker 1>scamming over here, it's only a matter of time before

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<v Speaker 1>they scam for you. That thing where people go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't. They haven't done that to me, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Baby, you're sitting duck. If that person was

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<v Speaker 1>able to be unkind and you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>listen if somebody was an asshole and deserved that response short,

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<v Speaker 1>but if somebody was just unprovoked and unkind without compassion,

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<v Speaker 1>or is tearing somebody else down or talking shit about

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<v Speaker 1>that you know what I'm saying, It's only amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time before that thing turns on you. That's just how

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<v Speaker 1>it is. So when somebody shows you they are believe

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<v Speaker 1>in the first time, which is why Also, this is

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<v Speaker 1>why I also love curiosity, because I like to ask

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<v Speaker 1>questions and I want to hear what you have to

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<v Speaker 1>say about it. I want to listen because people are

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<v Speaker 1>going when you go on dates, come with your questions

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<v Speaker 1>and not in like a grilling way, but ask questions

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<v Speaker 1>because people will tell you exactly who they are by

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<v Speaker 1>how they answer those questions. They will they will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you without fail people will tell you exactly who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>You just got to ask the question. Okay. Anyways, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so grateful to Trace for being here. Obsessed with her,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say it's enough. If you have not watched Monica,

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<v Speaker 1>please hunt that movie down and watch it. It is

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful and TRACE's work is some of the most stunning

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<v Speaker 1>work I've seen on film. That is no hyperbole. Trace

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<v Speaker 1>is a master of the craft of acting. That's period. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>She's incredible in that movie and I remember seeing it

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<v Speaker 1>and just being completely speechless, and I couldn't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's my friend, Lord of Mercy, I

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<v Speaker 1>know our that's crazy because what a fucking beast, what

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking uh just what's the word or just just

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<v Speaker 1>like expert expertly performed, expertly delivered. So watch Monica. All right,

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