Speaker 1: Look out his only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer, director,
Speaker 1: truck stop, and I love film. As Martha Gelhorn once said,
Speaker 1: I know enough to know that no woman should ever
Speaker 1: marry a man who hated his mother or a man
Speaker 1: who didn't really enjoy Donnie Darko. If you didn't enjoy
Speaker 1: Donnie Darko, I don't want to marry you. Huh yeah,
Speaker 1: fair enough, Martha Girlhorn, good shout. Every week I invite
Speaker 1: a special guest over. I tell them they've died. Then
Speaker 1: I get them to discuss their life through the films
Speaker 1: that meant the most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins,
Speaker 1: Jamila Jamil, Sharon Stone, and even Med Campbell's. But this
Speaker 1: week it's the wonderful writer, actor and comedian Ellie Jane Taylor.
Speaker 1: Head over to the Patron at patron dot com forward
Speaker 1: slash Brett Goldstein, where you get an extra fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: with Ellie. We go deep, we talk beginnings, we talk endings,
Speaker 1: we talk secrets, and you get the whole episode as
Speaker 1: a video. Check it out over at patreon dot com.
Speaker 1: Forward slash Brett Goldstein. Big shout out to all the
Speaker 1: people who came to the live show at the weekend
Speaker 1: at the south Bank Center. What a lovely time that
Speaker 1: was for everyone. Thank you so much everyone who came.
Speaker 1: It was really, really very special and it meant a
Speaker 1: lot to both me and Jessica Nappitt said, thank you
Speaker 1: for being there. Ted Lasso Season two is available now
Speaker 1: on Apple tv Plus along with season one. You can
Speaker 1: watch the whole lot in one go. Super Bob and
Speaker 1: Soulmates are available on Amazon Prime in most countries of
Speaker 1: the world, so enjoy them. Ellie Taylor. Ellie Taylor is
Speaker 1: a stand up she's a writer, she's an actor, she's
Speaker 1: a lot of things. And she's also best known to
Speaker 1: me for playing Sassy Smurf in ted Lasso, which she
Speaker 1: does fucking brilliantly. We recorded this over zoom. It was
Speaker 1: so much fun to hang out with her, and I
Speaker 1: think you're going to adore this one. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1: That is it for now. I very much hope you
Speaker 1: enjoy episode one hundred and eighty six of Films to
Speaker 1: be Buried with Hello and welcome to Films to be
Speaker 1: buried with It is I Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined
Speaker 1: today by an actor, a writer, a Sunday Times bestseller,
Speaker 1: a sellout, touring stand up, a TV comic, a TV actor,
Speaker 1: a film star, a mother, a wife, a hero, a legend,
Speaker 1: and most of all, Sassy Smurth herself. Please welcome to
Speaker 1: the show. It's the Miss Lowe's actually a panel show,
Speaker 1: is a this reporter, show me the funnier, A man
Speaker 1: about town, a superhero and all the things that you
Speaker 1: want in a human being and a person. Please welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. It's the brilliant Ellie Taylor. Wow, thanks Brett.
Speaker 1: That was that was a mouthful. Hi there, I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry I got I jumped out too early and there
Speaker 1: was still so much more to do. Wait wait wait yeah,
Speaker 1: so she's a superhero. That's definitely true. Yeah, yeah, these
Speaker 1: are facts. It's lovely to see you, Ellie Tayley. So
Speaker 1: you were filming your first night last night, first day,
Speaker 1: first night, Yeah, my first day, and for the first
Speaker 1: day I had to do stuffy stuffy with a mom
Speaker 1: and it was quite strange. Please if you can tell
Speaker 1: us the experience, I don't need to know what it's
Speaker 1: like to stud with another person. I've got an idea.
Speaker 1: But what how was your experience of filming it? It
Speaker 1: was my first experience of filming it refessionally. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: never never had to do a thing out before, so
Speaker 1: it was interesting. But we had, because it's twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: hadn't intimacy coordinator, which was very nice. Tell me all
Speaker 1: about the intimacy coordinator because I have not had that
Speaker 1: experience and I would be fascinated to know what it
Speaker 1: was like, right, So an intimacy coordinator sort of, I
Speaker 1: suppose I learned about them when there was that Sally
Speaker 1: Rooney adaption of normal People on the rom British Telly
Speaker 1: and it's quite a sex heavy show. So they, the
Speaker 1: actors in it, spoke very openly about how they use
Speaker 1: an intimacy coordinator, which is basically someone to come in
Speaker 1: and act like a conduit between the actors, you know,
Speaker 1: the people doing the scenes and also the director, making
Speaker 1: sure everyone knows what's expected and also understanding what the
Speaker 1: actors are happy with and what they aren't happy with,
Speaker 1: how they want the scene to go, you know, where
Speaker 1: they're happy being touched and all that sort of jazz
Speaker 1: and the scene I was doing wasn't you know, it
Speaker 1: wasn't super raunchy or anything, but it was Actually it
Speaker 1: was a really nice having someone there who's like their
Speaker 1: only job was to make sure that I was or
Speaker 1: me and the other actor were comfortable and that the
Speaker 1: scene went okay. And she came along with like we
Speaker 1: had a zoom call before and we spoke through about
Speaker 1: how the scene would go and what I would be
Speaker 1: up for doing and stuff. And then she came along
Speaker 1: with a bag and sorry and that that cool. Is
Speaker 1: just one on one with you, right, that's not yeah, yeah, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: just it was just me. And then then she spoke
Speaker 1: to the actor, the other actor, and then she came
Speaker 1: along on this shoot night with a bag of tricks.
Speaker 1: So she she offered She offered me all sorts. She
Speaker 1: offered me like this sort of because we were like
Speaker 1: had to be like groin to groin, so she was gay, right,
Speaker 1: So she was offering me like this. It's sort of
Speaker 1: like a padded pair of knickers, you know, like when
Speaker 1: girls wear chicken filets in their bra and it's like
Speaker 1: a padded thing. She she was offering me like like
Speaker 1: knickers with like that sort of stitched in so it
Speaker 1: would protect my predender, that's what she said. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that word for the listener home. Obviously,
Speaker 1: obviously I know which part is the pretender again, that's yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the whole ship bags I think, right maybe,
Speaker 1: but yeah, the by the bony be I think, dear, dear,
Speaker 1: this is a shame on both of us. Yes, and
Speaker 1: then yeah, I mean in the end, in the end,
Speaker 1: I just opted for sort of like this little this
Speaker 1: little pillow she called a thrust pillow that you sort
Speaker 1: of just like put between you and the other person,
Speaker 1: so it just sort of acts like a little bit
Speaker 1: of a barrier, so you aren't quite so intimate, I suppose.
Speaker 1: And it was. It was absolutely fine, and the other
Speaker 1: actors lovely, and it was wasn't half as cringe as
Speaker 1: I thought it would be, Thank the Lord. That's so interesting.
Speaker 1: I think it's an excellent things, clearly an excellent thing.
Speaker 1: And it's really what is interresting is that when you
Speaker 1: first when one first hear of an intimacy coordinate, you
Speaker 1: sort of go, well, then wouldn't that take all the
Speaker 1: connection out of it or the acting or whatever it is?
Speaker 1: And then you watch something that no one will be
Speaker 1: when you go. I mean that the chemistry they have,
Speaker 1: it looks like they're having sex. I don't know what
Speaker 1: was going on unless the intermusic coordinator as both of them,
Speaker 1: do you mind just having sex? And they went fine
Speaker 1: with me, let's go. Yeah. I think it's great. I
Speaker 1: think it's really great that they're there. And even if
Speaker 1: you don't like massively need them, it's I think it's
Speaker 1: just really Yeah, it's comforting to know that someone's there
Speaker 1: just looking after you. No, no, that's great. We'll congratulations
Speaker 1: on your first day of shooting. Thanks, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: You write a book about your daughter, I did. It
Speaker 1: became a Sunday Times bestseller. Yes, it is. I don't
Speaker 1: like to bring it up. Thank you. Yeah, I'm really tough.
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah. My chime on the mistakes is all
Speaker 1: about me getting pregnant when I didn't really want to
Speaker 1: have a kid, and then having kid and then just
Speaker 1: the we wild newborn days. And I had a really well,
Speaker 1: not really rough in terms of general experience. It was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't great. I had I think I had post
Speaker 1: notedd to pressure and in the kind well and and
Speaker 1: and sort of like once I got through that what
Speaker 1: your life looks like as a child, and it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's The book's done really well and I'm safe pleased
Speaker 1: because it's really raw and honest, and I love getting
Speaker 1: messages from women saying that they have read it and
Speaker 1: felt like validated. I think just to have sometimes to
Speaker 1: read your experience when you have, you know, I'm so
Speaker 1: lucky that my job is to you know, to all
Speaker 1: I do in my stand up is talk about my
Speaker 1: life because I'm so self obsessed. So this book is
Speaker 1: essentially that I sort of reflect back on my experiences.
Speaker 1: And I think so many women obviously you have kids,
Speaker 1: don't have the time to sit down and sit in
Speaker 1: the corner I go oh, how did I feel on
Speaker 1: the Berg book and to sort of order their thoughts
Speaker 1: and feelings, and it's sort of psychothartic. So I think
Speaker 1: it was a real honor for me to be able
Speaker 1: to do that and to sort of put that out
Speaker 1: in the world for other women to read and relate to.
Speaker 1: And also, my mum always tells me, whatever you talk
Speaker 1: about the book on anything, you never say it's funny,
Speaker 1: so ps it's really it's when when it's not really
Speaker 1: raw and dark and it's horrible. It's really funny. Well,
Speaker 1: also I think it's lovely. It's lovely. You're saying, you know,
Speaker 1: wherever you were you now are in a place where
Speaker 1: you are currently, whatever you went through to get here
Speaker 1: is is real and absolutely right. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And
Speaker 1: I always say that to people with new kids, like,
Speaker 1: even as dark as it gets to the beginning, you
Speaker 1: have no idea of the joy that awaits you. It's
Speaker 1: ridic So just keep on swimming and you'll be You'll
Speaker 1: be in joy land soon. You're always a tired but yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you're you're sleeping days are what can I
Speaker 1: ask this? And maybe this is in the book, and
Speaker 1: if it is, I apologize having been someone that didn't
Speaker 1: want kids. When you gave birth, when you very first
Speaker 1: held your kids, was there an instant oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is magic for him, even if it was briefly
Speaker 1: or was it just what the fuck is this? It
Speaker 1: was sort of somewhere in between. It was very nice.
Speaker 1: It was such an exciting day, Like I loved that day.
Speaker 1: That was lovely to me because I had a plant's area,
Speaker 1: so it was all very ordered and not you know,
Speaker 1: like suddenly scary it was all lovely and I was
Speaker 1: like that, and the operating staff was so gorgeous. I
Speaker 1: always say she was like lifting into joy. It was
Speaker 1: such a lovely atmosphere, really fun and holding her that
Speaker 1: was amazing, Like seeing like they lowered the screening, you like,
Speaker 1: see this little scrawny creature come out a little goblin.
Speaker 1: And I liked her. I liked her then and then
Speaker 1: I had to try and then I liked her for
Speaker 1: a while, and then when when I got back home,
Speaker 1: I think that's when it got. I mean, I never
Speaker 1: I never disliked her, but I I don't think I
Speaker 1: I think you have to. I had to fall in
Speaker 1: love with her. I always felt protective and I always
Speaker 1: wanted to look after her. But I think the the
Speaker 1: affection certainly grew. It grew, I always say, like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sort of crept under my skin as as slowly
Speaker 1: as she grew beneath it. It took a while to
Speaker 1: get there. But yeah, now it's just so intense, and
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's the romantic love I've
Speaker 1: always craved, like, you know, the movie style, bring it
Speaker 1: back to the podcast. Yes, the movie style idea of
Speaker 1: romance that is what I've that is the love that
Speaker 1: I've found with my daughter that I don't think. I
Speaker 1: just don't think there's anything like it. It's just so
Speaker 1: intense and I'm yielding and only ever deepening. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it just me And I never thought of baby loves
Speaker 1: like romantic love that it feels. It feels so, it
Speaker 1: feels so passionate and intense. Yeah, I just I would
Speaker 1: describe my love my daughter as violent, like I just
Speaker 1: adore her. Yeah, that's so great. I have a male
Speaker 1: friend who shall remain nameless, who once told me he'd
Speaker 1: spent years and years and years and years like with
Speaker 1: different women and constantly constantly questioning everything, and and finally
Speaker 1: had a baby with someone. And I don't think he
Speaker 1: was even sure about that person, but he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like I've got and he said when I held
Speaker 1: my baby, I was like, that's my soulmate. That that
Speaker 1: that feeling that he had wanted with a woman and
Speaker 1: never found he had with his baby. So having said
Speaker 1: all that, I've just looked at my notes and I
Speaker 1: forgot to tell you something and I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: about to tell you this. It's really really not ideal.
Speaker 1: After you've said such a beautiful thing. Um, I should
Speaker 1: have I should have said it up top. Do you
Speaker 1: want to You could put a sting in or something
Speaker 1: now to break it up. You've died. Oh, it's bad news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. How did you die? Oh? No, oh, oh, dear.
Speaker 1: I think it was a shark attack, unfortunately, was it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What happened. I was in the sea, which remember, I
Speaker 1: think it was. It was in the oceans of Sydney,
Speaker 1: the northern beaches of Sydney, and I was out for
Speaker 1: a lovely little a little paddle, diving through some waves,
Speaker 1: and then lo and behold, straight ahead of me, it
Speaker 1: was like looking I was looking at like you know
Speaker 1: when Damien Hurst at those sharks in formaldehyde, and you
Speaker 1: could like look straight on at a shark. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what I saw. That was the last thing I saw, Brett.
Speaker 1: And then and then here I am. You were looking
Speaker 1: straight at the shark and then one one big bite,
Speaker 1: one big bite gone. Yeah, maybe just set at the head.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that it was at the head. It's
Speaker 1: quite abrupt. Yeah, I'd say that isn't a bad way
Speaker 1: to go. If it was straight ahead it beat you
Speaker 1: in half and that feels like a slower death. But
Speaker 1: heads coming off you yeah, yeah, out of it straight away.
Speaker 1: So it was traumatic, but you know it would make
Speaker 1: the Daily Mail. So I'm pleased, right, Ellie. Ellie Taylor
Speaker 1: in in beheading with a shark. It would probably be
Speaker 1: like a host of bb Now I'm a post host
Speaker 1: of BBC three's canceled Snog Marry avoid in tragic shark
Speaker 1: tragedy Snog Mary killed by shark. There we go, There
Speaker 1: we go. Do you worry about death, Ellie Taylor? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, I do. I think recently, always and recently.
Speaker 1: And then some you just get moments of like, isn't
Speaker 1: it I just can't believe that I'm going to die.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that. Isn't that mental that I'm going
Speaker 1: to die? And then some as I lie in my
Speaker 1: bed and I'm like, oh, I'll be in my coffin
Speaker 1: like this one there lying like this. Yeah, horror, isn't
Speaker 1: it staring at the a bit of wood, just staring
Speaker 1: and that's boring. Yeah, maybe they've put an iPad to
Speaker 1: the top or something, but it's um, yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I find it hard do you know what,
Speaker 1: I also haven't really had that much experience with death,
Speaker 1: only sort of you know, the acceptable losses. I'd be
Speaker 1: very fortunate, you know, just the grandparents, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Touch would I've never had anyone, you know, I've never
Speaker 1: had a proper tragedy I've had to deal with, which
Speaker 1: I always think, what is inevitable and happened at some point,
Speaker 1: and we'll all lose everyone at some point, so I
Speaker 1: think when that hits, perhaps that will bring it home.
Speaker 1: But at the moment, it all seemed like a sort
Speaker 1: of like a plot line for everyone else that won't
Speaker 1: affect me. Well possibly to say, yeah, I mean very possibly,
Speaker 1: you're you're the only person who will die by a
Speaker 1: shark head and then everyone else you know will be fine,
Speaker 1: which is it's not bad. What do you think happens
Speaker 1: when you die? I would love to think that you have,
Speaker 1: I don't know, float around in the wind and the
Speaker 1: trees and the grass and all that jazz. But realistically,
Speaker 1: I think, so, no, bro, I'm not I'm not religious,
Speaker 1: and I'm not spiritual. I'd love to be spiritual, but
Speaker 1: I've honestly the spirituality of a class of milk. I've
Speaker 1: got nothing. I've got nothing. I don't believe in anything
Speaker 1: like that. I've never yeah, I've never had a sign
Speaker 1: or I've never I don't know. I haven't be odd
Speaker 1: like you know when you find a white feather and
Speaker 1: goat it's an angel and then you're like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: in my like, I'm in my like you know, winter
Speaker 1: downy coat, that's why. Or I'm changing the bed and
Speaker 1: I've blacked the duvet, that's why the feathers come. We
Speaker 1: maybe had names you're hiding under your bed. Maybe maybe,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't know. Maybe when I always
Speaker 1: think one day, when I'm older, I have more time
Speaker 1: to investigate spirituality. But I'm too busy right now, too
Speaker 1: basically right now to think about those big things. But
Speaker 1: your career is flying. You ain't got time for reading
Speaker 1: books on. Don't worry about it. You'll get you get there,
Speaker 1: You'll get there in the I don't worry about it. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of the heavy lifting for you,
Speaker 1: long story short, those of heaven, and you made it.
Speaker 1: You made it on the basis of your book, which
Speaker 1: touched many people, and as your performance as Sassy's Murph
Speaker 1: and Ted I said, that is really fucking brilliant. That's why. Um,
Speaker 1: and that was it. I mean, the rest of the
Speaker 1: rest of your your your staff was weighed up and
Speaker 1: it was like a half and half. People were like,
Speaker 1: as a person, yeah sure, but but when when it
Speaker 1: came down to it was the book so career focused
Speaker 1: in not snock mary avoid is appropriate one, know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So fair enough? Quite right? What it's weird?
Speaker 1: I mean the rules are always different for everyone who arrives.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you just have to be a good person.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to be nice. In your case,
Speaker 1: you have to achieve two career milestones. What what what's
Speaker 1: your favorite thing? Because heavens filled with it? Breakfast cereal? Right,
Speaker 1: well is the news? Do you have a particular favorite
Speaker 1: breakfast cereal multi packs? I like a variety back. I
Speaker 1: also am a very big fan of curiously cinnamon and
Speaker 1: also one that kellogs have stopped doing, which is called Start.
Speaker 1: From the olden days, you remember to start. Start was
Speaker 1: like a virgin of special k right sort of. It
Speaker 1: always had like a swimmer on the back, being like
Speaker 1: makes swim fast. Yeah, it's delicious. It's defunct. Now that's what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what well, listen, the wolves are variety packs and
Speaker 1: the chairs are made of curiously cinnamon boxes. But and
Speaker 1: there's bowls of cereal wherever you want, and they're always
Speaker 1: perfectly the right amount of milk. They're perfectly crispy. And yeah,
Speaker 1: they're everywhere. You can just reach your hand out. Oh
Speaker 1: there's a new but there's a different one and you
Speaker 1: want start. Don't worry about it, mate, you can have
Speaker 1: start Start the Wizard. There's a whole start room right
Speaker 1: by the swimming pool, of course, and the swimming pool
Speaker 1: filled with milk, which you have as a spirituality act.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. And everyone's delighted to see you. There's
Speaker 1: lots of special case swimmers. They're they're very excited to
Speaker 1: see you. They're all big fans. They want to talk
Speaker 1: about your life, but they wan't to talk about your
Speaker 1: life through film. The first question, Nails, is what's the
Speaker 1: first film you remember seeing Ellie Jane Taylor. I think
Speaker 1: the first one would be something like Seven Brides, Seven
Speaker 1: Brothers Lovely, yeah, which my so my mum would have shown.
Speaker 1: We watched a lot of those sort of old musicals
Speaker 1: and I loved Seven Brides for some Brothers and I
Speaker 1: loved Singing in the Rain, all that sort of stuff
Speaker 1: really my vibe. But yeah, I just I think Seven
Speaker 1: Seven Brothers was so I mean, it's the plotline is
Speaker 1: out rageous these days. But seven brothers go and abduct
Speaker 1: seven women and bring them back to be their wives,
Speaker 1: like they kidnap them, and then they sort of go
Speaker 1: like Stockholm syndrome, and then fall in love with them
Speaker 1: all and get married and it's all. And then the
Speaker 1: dad's got a very very odd anyway putting out a side.
Speaker 1: It's got lots of lovely songs in which I really love,
Speaker 1: and I loved I don't know. I loved all the
Speaker 1: different brothers and they're silly. They all they had different
Speaker 1: colored shirts and all their funny names, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I loved it. It's a great film, and I
Speaker 1: don't see any problem with the politics of it. I
Speaker 1: think it very much stands stands up to mother's scrutiny.
Speaker 1: They're brothers, they're brothers, they're looking for brides. Whereas there's
Speaker 1: seven of them. The numbers it's just too many. You
Speaker 1: can't they can't all go on a dating app and
Speaker 1: hope to find seven appropriate women. The answer is a
Speaker 1: kidnapping and sing them good enough songs that they fall
Speaker 1: in love. Oh, and also force an avalanche to block
Speaker 1: the road between their house and all the girl's house
Speaker 1: so they can't be rescued. Shows to the brides they're clever,
Speaker 1: they're using their initiative, and they'll make great husbands, as
Speaker 1: they prove. They proved they do still like the medium
Speaker 1: of dance. Yeah, did you watch that at home on
Speaker 1: the Telly? Yeahs when it came out, Yeah ninety, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not yeah at home on the Telly. And
Speaker 1: I think the first film I remember seeing at the
Speaker 1: cinema was a Little Mermaid. Yeah, so I think my
Speaker 1: nan took me and my sister and my cousin somewhere
Speaker 1: in London where she lived, and we went to watch
Speaker 1: The Little Mermaid. And afterwards we came out and there
Speaker 1: was a lady dressed as a Little Mermaid. Um, and
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved that. I loved that film.
Speaker 1: I loved part of your world. I always say to
Speaker 1: my mom, now, if I died now, actually well actually
Speaker 1: I am dead, so at my funeral, they would have
Speaker 1: played part part of part of your world. That would
Speaker 1: have been my funeral everyone in the congregation brush their
Speaker 1: hair with forks. That's just what they did. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: love that film. I love the songs. It's a really, really,
Speaker 1: really good film. Are you an only child? No, I
Speaker 1: have a sister. She's older than me. Did you see
Speaker 1: a little memaid with her? Yes? I did? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you fight over who got to be arial? She
Speaker 1: was just older? She would have been default been arial
Speaker 1: and yeah I probably yeah, or Sebastian. I won't do
Speaker 1: the accent. Don't worry. Um, Yeah, that's lovely. What is
Speaker 1: the film that scared you the most? Do you like
Speaker 1: being scared? Absolutely not. I hate being scared. I find it.
Speaker 1: I find it's so mad that people deliberately want to
Speaker 1: watch something that frightens them. I just don't get that mindset.
Speaker 1: Life frightens me enough without actually giving me. Also, I
Speaker 1: just I find if I see something scary, even if
Speaker 1: like a trailer for a scary film comes on the TV,
Speaker 1: I have to switch the channel or look away or
Speaker 1: turn the sound off, because I don't you know that
Speaker 1: just the flashing images of suddenly like the speaking man
Speaker 1: in the mask being by a window, that will just
Speaker 1: haunt my brain and I will keep thinking about it,
Speaker 1: So now I hate scary things. The most scary film
Speaker 1: I think I've ever watched, well, one of them would
Speaker 1: be Signs, Yeah, which is about yeah, about aliens. But
Speaker 1: as soon as I saw the alien I wasn't scared anymore.
Speaker 1: But it's it's the sort of scuttling around and something
Speaker 1: you can't see is always scary than when it as
Speaker 1: you do. And also I think the proper scariest thing
Speaker 1: where I saw twenty eight Days Later is great film.
Speaker 1: Though I like this sort of the psychological sort of
Speaker 1: you know, examination of that sort of terror scenario. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't there's there's follow ups to that isn't there,
Speaker 1: but I haven't bought myself to watch it. But I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. But I was fucking terrified. I really
Speaker 1: enjoy Signs. I mean, Signs is great. The answer to like,
Speaker 1: how do we kill these aliens? Oh, they don't like
Speaker 1: water seems fairly so. Just a little bit of rain
Speaker 1: and that problem goes away. I've forgotten that. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: wait for the rainy season. It'll be fine. Get the
Speaker 1: super soakers out. But it's good that you don't like
Speaker 1: being scared. A lot of comedians don't like being scared.
Speaker 1: It's surprising me. I really comes up. It's a surprising
Speaker 1: amount of comedians answer this the way you have been
Speaker 1: scared whenever scary films. Yeah, yeah, everyone's interesting. Yeah, control freaks,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, probably, Yeah, that would make sense. What
Speaker 1: is the film that made you cry the most? And
Speaker 1: are you a crier? I am a crier. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think I've got worse since I've had a kid, as
Speaker 1: everyone said would happen, and it's true. The film that
Speaker 1: made me cry the most, I think the first I
Speaker 1: really remember viscerally sobbing at Titanic when I saw that
Speaker 1: after us time, Oh my god, Bret, I've never seen
Speaker 1: anything more tragic in my life. And it stayed with
Speaker 1: me for ages, and I would I recorded the Celindeon
Speaker 1: song off the radio onto a cassette, and I just
Speaker 1: every time I heard it in the radio, I would
Speaker 1: record it. So I had it like twelve times on
Speaker 1: one side of it, and I would just I would
Speaker 1: lay in bed. And my favorite one was when they
Speaker 1: had the there's a version of it that has the
Speaker 1: bits of dialogue from the filming. I never let girl Jack.
Speaker 1: I never let girl and so I would listen in
Speaker 1: bed at night and just saw saw about how sad
Speaker 1: it was and like all the people dying. And I
Speaker 1: remember we'd be at school, like playing netball on like
Speaker 1: a winter's day, and me and my friend Kate would
Speaker 1: be would be, you know, just sort of outside shivering
Speaker 1: and go. Can you imagine on Titanic they were even
Speaker 1: colder than this? Oh my god? And I yeah, I
Speaker 1: found I found that. And this scenes of when there's
Speaker 1: like the little boy and his mum on the bed
Speaker 1: and the old couple and all of those would really
Speaker 1: play with me. That that and you know, the realization
Speaker 1: that was actually there was a true story that did
Speaker 1: actually happen. That really yes it was. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just I don't remember ever sort of really suddenly
Speaker 1: going craps is awful, and yeah, really it really upset
Speaker 1: me that film. It is interesting, right, because I've been
Speaker 1: thinking about it, Titanic comes up a lot. It really
Speaker 1: really really affected a huge number of people, and certainly
Speaker 1: a particular age group when it hit you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like in a way like devastated a whole
Speaker 1: generation of sort of teenage girls. And I think you know,
Speaker 1: it was made by James Cameron, who I think at
Speaker 1: the time was like a fifty subthing year old man.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that he tapped into the fifteen year old girl,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like I admired Titanic, sure,
Speaker 1: but it didn't hit me the way it hit so
Speaker 1: many women. I think of that age group, and it's
Speaker 1: it's so interesting that he found that within his work. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder what that is. And I suppose we'll partly
Speaker 1: there'll be the romantic aspect of Glio and Kate thing,
Speaker 1: and you were so invested in that, so invested. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure a big part of it is,
Speaker 1: and all the girls loved him, but still there's more
Speaker 1: to it than And also even the fact that it's
Speaker 1: quite you know, it's very funny you say, oh when
Speaker 1: we're being at school and being sad about the tragedy
Speaker 1: of the Titanic. But again it's like there were other tragedies.
Speaker 1: The fact that that that really meant something to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's because I don't know, like the
Speaker 1: whole it's kind of it's it's a long it's stuck
Speaker 1: in one place. It's a long tragedy, and we know
Speaker 1: the outcome obviously, and you just I don't know, like
Speaker 1: it's just really just seeing everyone jumping off and it
Speaker 1: takes over so bloody low. It takes a so you
Speaker 1: we really like roots in it's not like they sink
Speaker 1: and that's the end, Like it's really drawn out. Is
Speaker 1: that you're really invested by by the end of it. Yeah, amazing,
Speaker 1: And I still like, I remember I remember like open
Speaker 1: that opening sequence is amazing and then Kate Winsley like
Speaker 1: lifting up her head with that amazing hat on, and
Speaker 1: I don't think I remember it. I remember other films
Speaker 1: in the same way. It just felt so epic. I
Speaker 1: just don't think i'd seen anything so visually spectacular because
Speaker 1: at the time it was like the most expensive film
Speaker 1: ever sort of thing, wasn't it? And it was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was yeah, blew my little mind. What's the film
Speaker 1: that you love? It's not critically acclaimed, most people don't
Speaker 1: like it, but you love it unconditionally and think everyone
Speaker 1: else is done. You know. I couldn't think of an
Speaker 1: overwhelming answer here, So I've gone for something that I
Speaker 1: saw recently, but I don't think is the best thing
Speaker 1: in the world. But I really I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: So I was on a plane and I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: we were gone, We're back from Australia. I haven't been
Speaker 1: like on a plane. I can watch a film, or
Speaker 1: my kid is old enough to watch an iPad finally
Speaker 1: and watch a film. Excellent, amazing, I know. Oh dear
Speaker 1: Evan Hanson, I like this. I like the musical. I
Speaker 1: like the songs. I put that on, watched it, had
Speaker 1: a couple of gin tonics, thought well this is extraordinary.
Speaker 1: Oh I've enjoyed that. So much came off the plane,
Speaker 1: looked at the reviews. Everyone fucking hated it. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: hated it. And it was so funny because I had
Speaker 1: this such sort of any because I couldn't google it
Speaker 1: while I was watching, I had this real info. I
Speaker 1: really came to a decision on my own. Doesn't like me.
Speaker 1: I couldn't be influenced by anything. And then it was
Speaker 1: really like jarring to go, oh did you not? Am
Speaker 1: I not meant to like that? I haven't. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it, but I know the reception went good. I
Speaker 1: thought it was because Evan Hanson's really old or something.
Speaker 1: There was one bit where I was like, oh, he doesn't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't a bit Ropey here, but it was a
Speaker 1: very emotional scene where he's really like crying, and I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like the lighting to be a bit better that.
Speaker 1: But then I'm always like, look at Grease. Well you
Speaker 1: can't complain, look at Grease. Yeah yeah, I don't know what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's funny, isn't it when you you like
Speaker 1: something everyone else. I don't know. It's just always so
Speaker 1: fascinating how subjective things can be. Completely. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: always interested, because you know, film critics often see films together,
Speaker 1: like they'll go to press screenings and they'll all be
Speaker 1: in the room at the same time, and I can't
Speaker 1: believe that that doesn't influence each other, you know, even
Speaker 1: if they don't talk about it afterwards, Like even if
Speaker 1: they all look each have like oh boy on their
Speaker 1: way out, but you were thinking, oh I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: Would that then affect your review? Would you make your
Speaker 1: review that's the best film ever? Or would you go, yeah,
Speaker 1: actually it's got some problems, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. How can they be subjective? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: what is the film that you used to love? You
Speaker 1: loved very much? But you've watched it recently and you've thought,
Speaker 1: I don't like this film no more. I thought, recently, Oh,
Speaker 1: I know, I'll be nostalgic and I'll watch Splash. I
Speaker 1: love Splash about a mermaid. I love I love mermaids.
Speaker 1: I would want to be like if I like. I
Speaker 1: always think, if there's a world, w could be a
Speaker 1: mythical creature, would be a mermaid. So I thought, yes,
Speaker 1: can I pause you for one second and ask you
Speaker 1: a side note because you've been bothering me. When you
Speaker 1: went to see Little Mermaid. You came out of the
Speaker 1: cinema and there was a woman dressed as areal. Did
Speaker 1: you have fins? I can't remember the feat. How was
Speaker 1: she standing about? She was sitting? There was a seat right,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I can't remember what this. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think she was actually half fish. I do believe they were.
Speaker 1: She was. She was an area once she's become human.
Speaker 1: So it was just a redhead. You just saw a redhead,
Speaker 1: a woman in a red wig. That's what I saw was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lady with redhair. Is Ariel just business what it is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's really little, really good. Sorry, go back. So Splash
Speaker 1: you love Mermaids. You wish you were a mermaid, which
Speaker 1: I was my I thought I'd watched Flash and always remember,
Speaker 1: you know, just love it, loving it's a Tom Hank
Speaker 1: Daryl Hannah. Daryl Hannah has amazing hair, really long, beautiful,
Speaker 1: blonde and wavy. That has influenced my hair goals forever.
Speaker 1: I've always I always want to and I always say this,
Speaker 1: to grow my hair long enough to cover my boobs,
Speaker 1: like I'm a mermaid. That's my aim and great aim.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I watched it again and it was really
Speaker 1: it's really shit. It was really shit. Yeah, well no,
Speaker 1: not really shit, but just not as magical as I thought.
Speaker 1: It was just a bit. Yeah, it just was. I
Speaker 1: think it's one of those ones I should have just
Speaker 1: not watched again. Although I do find the scene where
Speaker 1: she buys him them, but she buys him a fountain
Speaker 1: quite funny. I like that he says that he sees
Speaker 1: a fountain out on the bout and she likes it,
Speaker 1: and then she brings it and puts it in his
Speaker 1: living room. So yeah, it was a bit sad. That's sad.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that actually, Oh it's all right, right, you
Speaker 1: can be all right though, right, I think so, I
Speaker 1: think it will be okay, Okay, what is the film
Speaker 1: that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film
Speaker 1: itself is any good, but because the experience you had
Speaker 1: around seeing the film always makes it special to you.
Speaker 1: Ellie Jane Taylor, it's the Hobbit films and the Lord
Speaker 1: of the Ring films as a collective, because I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but they seem to have become like the
Speaker 1: films of my relationship with my husband because whenever, yeah,
Speaker 1: when we were when we were first living together, there
Speaker 1: just was a time and they were always on on
Speaker 1: a Sunday afternoon, one of them was on somewhere, so
Speaker 1: we'd always end up watching them. And then I remember
Speaker 1: on our honeymoon, it was it was it was like
Speaker 1: December and we are honeymoon. We just went to a
Speaker 1: little place in the south of France and December it
Speaker 1: wasn't warmer thing, we weren't some bathing. We would just
Speaker 1: sit inside a lot. So we watched and I remember
Speaker 1: we watched all of the Hobbit films and I just
Speaker 1: I don't know, I really, I really, it's funny because
Speaker 1: I have I'm really fond of them. They will always
Speaker 1: remind me of my husband. But it's like I'm fond
Speaker 1: of them, but also I have I couldn't tell you
Speaker 1: what film was what, and what happens when and what
Speaker 1: the story is and how their links get. They are
Speaker 1: all just one blur. And every time my husbands like no,
Speaker 1: this is no, this is one of the Eagles, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't remember. They were all just the sort of
Speaker 1: mesh of funny little men um But I really, but
Speaker 1: I really, I really enjoy them. I really enjoy them.
Speaker 1: It's the same sort of thing for like James Bond.
Speaker 1: I don't remember individual stuff. It's all just I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell you what film was what. They all just blur
Speaker 1: into one. So, yeah, is your husband like hardcore and them?
Speaker 1: Is he? Does he love them? Or is it just
Speaker 1: these are the things that just happened to you? You know?
Speaker 1: He does like them, Like if they're on, he'll always
Speaker 1: watch it. And even if he's tired, like if it
Speaker 1: you know, he wants to go to bed, and he
Speaker 1: sees that so on, it's like he will stay up
Speaker 1: to watch it. Yeah. They are so long, they are
Speaker 1: so long. Oh, I'll just stay up another and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a new TV series of that coming, isn't it soon?
Speaker 1: So I'm looking looking forward to that. Is it keep
Speaker 1: your marriage going? Yeah? I mean the TV series I
Speaker 1: can only imagine is forty eight hours period. Yeah, gotta
Speaker 1: be gotta be because we didn't. We didn't get enough,
Speaker 1: did we? Did we? I do find it funny when
Speaker 1: I don't know when stories keep getting retold. I always think,
Speaker 1: like the superhero stuff, like oh, we get we've got it.
Speaker 1: Now we know about Spider Man, like, we don't need
Speaker 1: to rehash he's a man, be a spider but let's
Speaker 1: let's leave that now We've done that one. I find
Speaker 1: incredible that we keep making the same Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: man who can shoot out webs. Okay, keep banging after Hi,
Speaker 1: what is the film that you most relate to? I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever sat and watched a film and
Speaker 1: thought I'm that character. I've never I just don't think
Speaker 1: I watched films that way because I'm too self obsessed. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't think I would pin myself on something on
Speaker 1: like on a film like that. I suppose maybe it
Speaker 1: depends how to take the question, like its relatable in
Speaker 1: that I don't know funny. I suppose would be like Bridesmaids,
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. The humor I get, so I
Speaker 1: relate to the humor in that way. But I've never
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever really gone that character? Is me?
Speaker 1: I am? That character? Is that weird? Or? Do? Lots
Speaker 1: of people? Some people struggle with this question. I can't
Speaker 1: tell you. When you say you're self obsessed, I'd go,
Speaker 1: which would make me think you'd relate to more stuff
Speaker 1: because you'd watch stuff and go, that's about me. That's
Speaker 1: about me. That's about me, right right, that's none of
Speaker 1: these are about me, because unless you're going nothing, I
Speaker 1: can't relate to anything because I'm so unique. None of
Speaker 1: this speaks to me. It's probably true, isn't it. Yeah? Probably? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I probably want my phone not quite playing attention? Um.
Speaker 1: I think increasingly now I have looking at your own tweets?
Speaker 1: Do you ever do that? I do look back at
Speaker 1: my old startle like about my old Instagram that was amazing.
Speaker 1: I'll go to my R five on my Instagram story
Speaker 1: like this well April twenty nine, twenty eighty or do
Speaker 1: good you do good Instagram? To be fair, I bet
Speaker 1: yours banging. Thanks thanks, dude, you're throwing away gold. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think i've I've Yeah, it's that's an interesting question,
Speaker 1: isn't it that one? Yeah, it can also be about
Speaker 1: like the atmosphere of a film, or it can be
Speaker 1: the place you know that some people will be like
Speaker 1: I grew up there, so that's the film, you know.
Speaker 1: I do find, like in all sorts of sort of
Speaker 1: fiction I consume in any way, in films and TV
Speaker 1: and books, I do prefer British stuff. I like it
Speaker 1: where it's ground did in something that I know, particularly
Speaker 1: in books. Actually, I've realized I don't know when it's
Speaker 1: sort of an American character and in American city, I
Speaker 1: don't know, or you know, and I doesn't have to
Speaker 1: just be America anyway. I just I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just I like it when it's British and I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it, I get the scene more. I suppose.
Speaker 1: There you go. Thank you, Thank you for sharing. Let's
Speaker 1: get to the reason most people tune in for the show.
Speaker 1: What's the sexiest film you've ever seen? Ellie Jane Taylor,
Speaker 1: I was obvious. Yeah, yeah, hand on the window or painting.
Speaker 1: Oh oh no, not the painting. Well that bit as well,
Speaker 1: but the car, Oh my god. I just remember seeing
Speaker 1: that scene in the cinema. I think i'd got because
Speaker 1: the film is so long, I'd gone to the loup,
Speaker 1: I'd come back, and I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't
Speaker 1: get back into the seats where my friends were. So
Speaker 1: I ended up like sitting by myself at the end
Speaker 1: of an aisle, and I remember being so glad that
Speaker 1: I was by myself when the sexy scene came on,
Speaker 1: because I was like, I think I'm having an awakening
Speaker 1: because it was like the most sexy, like there were
Speaker 1: like firefrackers down below. I was so thrilled by it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was honestly the most sexy thing I'd ever seen,
Speaker 1: especially probably in a cinema as well, you know, on
Speaker 1: a big screen like that. So yeah, again, very formative,
Speaker 1: the tragedy and the the horniness. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on for a teenage Yeah yeah, yeah, big time
Speaker 1: high stakes and a bit of someone painting you. People
Speaker 1: want that, don't they do? Well, No, not really, I'd
Speaker 1: rather just the man said to you, if your husband
Speaker 1: said to you, I've done an art class for our
Speaker 1: anniversary and I'd love to, and the Hobbits not on,
Speaker 1: and neither of a lot of the rings I checked.
Speaker 1: Can I paint you? But now what I'm thinking is
Speaker 1: if he did, you just imagine I'd be there for
Speaker 1: like an hour. Would have done a big cock and balls?
Speaker 1: I mean no, I definitely don't. I would. He could
Speaker 1: do a portrait, but I don't want to get my
Speaker 1: tits out. Thanks, I don't think. No, I don't want
Speaker 1: to have painted. What if he's like, you don't have
Speaker 1: to be there? I remember, I remember what you did
Speaker 1: like naked. I'm just going to paint a nude of
Speaker 1: you for our anniversary and put it on the wall.
Speaker 1: Would you be flattered? Would you be like that's so romantic?
Speaker 1: Or would you be like, don't do that? I think
Speaker 1: i'd be the latter. I think I'd say, if you
Speaker 1: want to put some another wall, let's go Yeah, yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: go to Okay, what is it? Oh, there's a subcategory
Speaker 1: of course traveling bone is worrying? Why donce? What film
Speaker 1: did you find a rousing that you weren't sure that
Speaker 1: you should? I remember as a little child watching Labyrinth
Speaker 1: and finding it really scary, but also I found David
Speaker 1: Bow really like I think I found answered him. But
Speaker 1: I didn't know if he was a man or a lady.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what he was. I didn't really know
Speaker 1: what the film about, but I definitely thought he was
Speaker 1: very captivating. I remember find that was all a bit confusing.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on there, and Jent Telly,
Speaker 1: that's a perfect answer to that question, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to get ten points for that. Well, thanks very much.
Speaker 1: What can I get? What do I get for the points?
Speaker 1: I think you get the motivation to want more points
Speaker 1: as you go along, and if you maybe noticed that
Speaker 1: you haven't had any points at this point. But that
Speaker 1: was an absolutely perfect answer, rare for that question. Okay, good,
Speaker 1: It makes up for some of the other ship answers. No,
Speaker 1: not so. What you get for a point if you
Speaker 1: if you make it too over a thousand points, you
Speaker 1: get an extra bowl of start? What? Yeah? What motivated?
Speaker 1: What is objectively the greatest film of all time? Is
Speaker 1: it Doctor? No? Is it gold Figure? Tell us? I
Speaker 1: don't know which one they are. I would say racist
Speaker 1: film war Time, which also I would put with the
Speaker 1: next category of one I would watch over and over
Speaker 1: and over. If I could bundle those two together would
Speaker 1: be I think room with a View. Wow, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because thank you. It's a film I would watch with
Speaker 1: my family when we were younger. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why I loved it so much
Speaker 1: as a kid, because it's a quite sort of a
Speaker 1: grown up story. Really. It's a romance story setting like
Speaker 1: the nineteen twenties ten nine twenties, and it's got Helen
Speaker 1: Bona Cassa as this sort of lucy honey Church Helen
Speaker 1: and Bonacsta, which was like fresh out she was like
Speaker 1: nineteen or something, absolutely beautiful, and it's just such a
Speaker 1: gorgeous story, and I just loved it, and I think
Speaker 1: it's so charming felt I felt completely in love with
Speaker 1: Rupert Graves, who plays Freddie Lus's brother, who's just so
Speaker 1: sort of fish and funny, and it's all so delightful
Speaker 1: and homely and romantic. And then there's the scene in
Speaker 1: it where the men in the men in the group
Speaker 1: will go swimming in the nude, skinny dipping, and that
Speaker 1: was again an eye opener because it was all like,
Speaker 1: you know, properly just men running around without any clothes on,
Speaker 1: so you know suddenly I was just like me as
Speaker 1: a nine year old sink the Simon Callow's Willie. That
Speaker 1: was always like what And it was such a silly scene.
Speaker 1: I remember it was like I found it. I didn't
Speaker 1: find it sexy. I just found it, like, wow, this
Speaker 1: is wild. And I've always thought that was really funny.
Speaker 1: And I saw it again recently, that scene, and it's
Speaker 1: just so it is really funny. It's really funny, and
Speaker 1: I love it's beautiful. The cast is incredible. You've got
Speaker 1: Judy Dench, Maggie Smith. And it's also I read the
Speaker 1: book and it's the Enforce book run review of the
Speaker 1: same name, obviously, and it was it's so true to
Speaker 1: the book. It's wonderful and I just love it and
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's just such a beautiful, gorgeous film.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you that point. Um, you get
Speaker 1: eight point nine points for that, Okay, siloa, okay, good, no,
Speaker 1: but good. I mean you're getting points and that's the
Speaker 1: main thing. You lost at some points for combining it
Speaker 1: with the next question. Sorry, but you were honest, So
Speaker 1: you also gained some points because you know, we respect
Speaker 1: that on this show, which gave you an average. You
Speaker 1: haveage dad at eight point name? What is the film? Oh?
Speaker 1: Here we go. Listen. I don't like being negative. I
Speaker 1: don't know about you. How do you feel about being
Speaker 1: negative the majority of my time? Then take your time
Speaker 1: with this one. What's the worst thing we've ever seen? Batman?
Speaker 1: That's a sick man. M hard disagree, but go on,
Speaker 1: are you fucking kidding me? I've got listen. I've talked
Speaker 1: about this on the podcast before. I think Batman, vest Zipman,
Speaker 1: Daughing a justice. And by the way, I'm not like
Speaker 1: a I love all of those films, guy, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, but I think that that film in particular
Speaker 1: is a German expressionistic art cinema film, and that it's that.
Speaker 1: What it looks like is they had the film ready
Speaker 1: in the edit, and just before they pressed print, they
Speaker 1: pressed shuffle and then because no scene makes logical sense
Speaker 1: from the last scene, and for that reason alone, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is fascinating. I was never bored. I was constantly like,
Speaker 1: what is going on? This is brilliant. Oh, I found it.
Speaker 1: So this was before we had kids and we were
Speaker 1: we would go we would actually go to cinema. I
Speaker 1: can't remember the last time I went to cinema it's
Speaker 1: been years. We would and we would take it in
Speaker 1: terms to take a film to go and say this
Speaker 1: was clearly my husband's choice, and it was. All I
Speaker 1: remember is it was like hours of just two men
Speaker 1: in like the shadows, growling at each other, and that
Speaker 1: it was so boring, and I fell asleep, like I was.
Speaker 1: I made a conscious decision of well, this is not
Speaker 1: worth my consciousness. I'm going to sleep, and I checked
Speaker 1: out because it was so shit. And I don't I
Speaker 1: don't mind. I don't. I suppose Actually I don't really
Speaker 1: like sort of superheroes. I don't like. Is that that's
Speaker 1: DC stuff, isn't it. I don't really like DC stuff.
Speaker 1: It's all much darker. I really like the Marvel stuff.
Speaker 1: I love all of that stuff, Avengers and whatnot. That's
Speaker 1: really good fun and I do really I really like
Speaker 1: those films. But yeah, the other side, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: He's fun though, when you sort of mix up the
Speaker 1: world and safe to your husband and be like like
Speaker 1: an Avengers if I'm like, oh, he's wonder woman in
Speaker 1: this one, and then he gets all cross when I
Speaker 1: get it wrong. But I also know that he uses
Speaker 1: it like it will be something like Batman versus Superman
Speaker 1: comes on the Kelly, you know, just on my normal TV.
Speaker 1: And he's like, he puts that on and it's like
Speaker 1: he's going to me, it's time, seems to go to
Speaker 1: bed because he knows that will come on, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm out the directors guy, yep, see you later. So
Speaker 1: he definitely does. But don't you again. I have talked
Speaker 1: about this. I'm sorry if you've heard me talk about
Speaker 1: this before, listener, but the reveal in Batman and Superman,
Speaker 1: the way they make friends is I mean, people made
Speaker 1: a decision, you know, high executives made a decision that
Speaker 1: the twist of the film would be their mums have
Speaker 1: the same first name and that bonds them. That's fascinating
Speaker 1: that I was asleep. I don't remember that bit. Is that.
Speaker 1: What happens is he's about to kill one of them,
Speaker 1: is about to kill one of them, and he says Martha.
Speaker 1: I can't remember why he says Martha, and the other
Speaker 1: one goes, why are you saying Martha? And he goes,
Speaker 1: that's my mum's name. And he goes, that's my mom's name.
Speaker 1: And then they shake hands or something. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what stops them fighting is Oh, my mum's the same
Speaker 1: name as your mom. I guess we can be friends.
Speaker 1: It's three hours long and that's the resolution. It's fascinating.
Speaker 1: How did that happen? That is mad? But no what
Speaker 1: I mean. And again, in respect to the film, I
Speaker 1: didn't predict that. At no point was I thinking, well,
Speaker 1: this elm with their mum's having the same name, and
Speaker 1: they'll make up because of it. So for that reason
Speaker 1: I say it's a great film. I was constantly on
Speaker 1: my toes. Okay, I was never bored. At no point
Speaker 1: did they go, oh, yeah, yeah, it's all gonna like this.
Speaker 1: They're gonna no, they're gonna find out their mums have
Speaker 1: the same name. Well there you go. I need to
Speaker 1: watch it again to to witness that. That majesty, my
Speaker 1: fa what that's my mum's name? Me too? Friends? It's wild?
Speaker 1: What is what is? You're in comedy? You're a comedian,
Speaker 1: you're a touring comedian, you're a TV comedian, you're an
Speaker 1: award winning comedian. What's the film that made you? Ellie
Speaker 1: Jane Taylor laughter? Most so, it's a loud hand cut side.
Speaker 1: I think the film made me laugh the most. And
Speaker 1: I've already mentioned it, so I've blowed my load a
Speaker 1: little bit. Bridesmaids and I'm sure lads people say that. Sorry, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a really good film. It's a really good film,
Speaker 1: and it's really funny and it always makes me laugh,
Speaker 1: always makes me laugh in like, it's just so m
Speaker 1: it's just so, it's so good. And the yeah, they
Speaker 1: just the cringiness of it. Yeah, and the shitting in
Speaker 1: bridesmaid's dresses. I'm into it. It's just brilliant. It's pretty flawless.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you? Wait? When I I was looking
Speaker 1: over your stuff just to make sure I remembered everything,
Speaker 1: and I don't think I saw it, but I didn't,
Speaker 1: so I don't didn't know. You were on Show Me
Speaker 1: the Funny. Can we talk about that? Well? Yeah, that
Speaker 1: the first thing you did. Yeah, so Show Me the
Speaker 1: Funny was about made eleven twelve years ago. That was
Speaker 1: a show on ITV that was sort of like the
Speaker 1: X Fact of a comm d and Jason Mumford hosted
Speaker 1: it and they were like ten comedians. Each week you
Speaker 1: did a gig and it was like a knockout thing.
Speaker 1: Awful ratings. No one watched it apart from my mom basically,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but it was just a gig. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like there was no no challenge as in no, but
Speaker 1: it was like it was all. It was so weirdly
Speaker 1: go out into Liverpool and learn about the people and
Speaker 1: do a organize a hendu for someone or something. That's
Speaker 1: what we're doing. And then from that you'd write material
Speaker 1: and do it and then next week, oh, you're hanging
Speaker 1: out at Catterick Army Barracks and then you'll be performing
Speaker 1: to the soldiers. All sort of. That was very odd.
Speaker 1: And then before each show you wouldn't weren't allowed to
Speaker 1: go and see the room like a first you'd go
Speaker 1: on stage and that'd be the first time you would
Speaker 1: see where you were and it was five minutes new material,
Speaker 1: it was mental and how new were you? How new
Speaker 1: were you to stand up? Oh? Super new, like probably
Speaker 1: a year, never been paid for a gig, like ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But because I was so new to it all, I
Speaker 1: didn't quite realize how list the premise was and everyone,
Speaker 1: well not everyone. I assume people were using material that
Speaker 1: they had because of course you would because you were
Speaker 1: on Telly, whereas I literally had not material so each
Speaker 1: week I was the only one genuinely Yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I was. I was so naive. I was
Speaker 1: so naive. But I did all right, and I yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got to that semifinals and then got chucked out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was I had to quit my job.
Speaker 1: I had to quit my job to do that before
Speaker 1: I'd even to be at stand up when I've never
Speaker 1: been paid for a gig. It's mad, that's yeah. But
Speaker 1: it worked out all right so far. So Yeah, thankfully
Speaker 1: you've been to the semi finals. It's extraordinary. And you
Speaker 1: had you had never done it. I mean that sounds
Speaker 1: mental congratulations than what was the What was the job
Speaker 1: you quit to do it? Marketing? Marketing and events and
Speaker 1: PR and stuff. Yeah, well I think you chose the
Speaker 1: right path. Thanks, Ellie, tell you you have been wonderful
Speaker 1: as expected. However, when you were swimming in the beaches
Speaker 1: in the northern Beaches of Sydney, can't be more specific
Speaker 1: than that. Let's just say the beaches in the north
Speaker 1: of Sydney. Perhaps they're called the Northern Beaches, are they?
Speaker 1: Forgive my ignorance, I thought that sounded general. You know,
Speaker 1: the Northern Beaches, but that is what they're called, you
Speaker 1: know which on the northern one, they're up the Northern Beaches.
Speaker 1: You were swimming in the Northern Beaches and having a
Speaker 1: nice time swimming about, and quite suddenly up ahead of you,
Speaker 1: head on like a Damien Hurst living artwork in formade,
Speaker 1: hide but alive was a shark and he went, oh.
Speaker 1: But before you could finish your centers, shark hop in
Speaker 1: its mouth, chopped your head off at the neck, blood
Speaker 1: everywhere chatted out your body. You was dead instantly. I'm
Speaker 1: wondering about looking. I want to see these Northern Beaches
Speaker 1: I've heard so much about, they said, they said, But
Speaker 1: I've got a coffin with me, you know what I'm like.
Speaker 1: And I see your your family and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's again. Is Ellie about And I go, no, I
Speaker 1: think she's swimming She's swimming out. And then Northern Beats
Speaker 1: is and I go, oh, I hang on a minute.
Speaker 1: I see I'm like, blood in not blood in the
Speaker 1: in the area, but there's no evidence of Eli and
Speaker 1: I'm like fucking So I then follow around, I see
Speaker 1: this shark and I'm like, oh shit. So I use
Speaker 1: your coffin as a as a canoe, and I row
Speaker 1: out and I basically follow this shark around for the
Speaker 1: next thirty five years until it dies of natural causes.
Speaker 1: And when the shark dies, I cut it open and
Speaker 1: I find inside your carcass that had been preserved because
Speaker 1: Damien Hurst, turns out was right, sharks eat all the time,
Speaker 1: and you were perfectly preserved inside. But yeah, you'd been
Speaker 1: chewed up in. I mean, it wasn't pretty. You'd been
Speaker 1: chewed up into lads of pieces. But I found you
Speaker 1: and put all of you. But there were bits of
Speaker 1: blubberd you know, other stuff from within the shark. I
Speaker 1: put it all in the coffin, everything I could, But
Speaker 1: the coffin was absolutely rammed. Rammed fool. There's barely any
Speaker 1: room in it. There's only enough that I could fit
Speaker 1: one DVD into the side with you for you to
Speaker 1: take across to the other side. And on the other side,
Speaker 1: it's movie night every night, and one night it's your
Speaker 1: movie night. What film are you taking to show the
Speaker 1: people of heaven when it is your turn? Ellie Jane Taylor,
Speaker 1: do I have to pick one of the ones I've
Speaker 1: already picked? No, even better, because I was just thinking
Speaker 1: about watching stuff with my little girl. Maybe maybe i'd
Speaker 1: pick Yeah, maybe I'd pick a toy story because it's
Speaker 1: really sweet and would remind me of her. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: that's nice. I think number two that's her favorite one,
Speaker 1: the Jessie one. What towatch the Jessie one on me? Ah,
Speaker 1: that's a very lovely answer. The people of having are
Speaker 1: very excited to have you there and to eat. You're
Speaker 1: with you, Ellie Jane Taylor. You've been wonderful. Is there
Speaker 1: anything you would like to tell people to listen, to
Speaker 1: look out for or read? Oh? Yes, read my book.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, read that book for God's sakes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: paperbacks coming out, so knocking around already, my child, mal
Speaker 1: the mistakes. Get that in your eyes or ears. It's
Speaker 1: not audible. It's nice to listen to he Actually I
Speaker 1: prefer it. How long did it take you to record
Speaker 1: that day? Was it maddening or was it fun? I
Speaker 1: didn't mind it. The only issue was when the sound
Speaker 1: recordist guy was this young, sort of twenty year old lad,
Speaker 1: lovely guy, but he would have to correct my pronunciations
Speaker 1: of things, and there was at one point he had
Speaker 1: to say sort of buzzed and went Ellie's pronounced labi
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, you literally man
Speaker 1: explaining genitals. But he was quite literally his job that
Speaker 1: it was just very as a strange moment, how you
Speaker 1: proced it? But he says it's LaBier. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not going to weigh in on this, but
Speaker 1: obviously he was right, Lady Aaron predendums. They knew that
Speaker 1: they were going to come up on the show you
Speaker 1: today what It's been a big day for labor impredendums
Speaker 1: And just when you think, just when you think you've
Speaker 1: had your film up popped another one any day. Tell
Speaker 1: you thank you so much for doing this and for
Speaker 1: your time. I hope you have a lovely death and
Speaker 1: I will see you soon, yeah, in a bit. So
Speaker 1: that was episode one hundred and eighty six. Head over
Speaker 1: to patron dot com Forward slash Back Goals team for
Speaker 1: the extra fifty minutes of chat, secrets and videos with Ellie.
Speaker 1: Go to Apple Podcasts give us a five star rating.
Speaker 1: Right about the film that means the most to you
Speaker 1: and why that's all I want to read. Don't care
Speaker 1: about your thoughts on the show at this point, I'm
Speaker 1: very grateful you listened. We're doting to go into the details.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the films. Thank you so much to
Speaker 1: Ellie for giving me her time. Thanks to Scrupius Pep
Speaker 1: in the Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace for
Speaker 1: producing it. Thanks to ACAS for hosting it. Thanks to
Speaker 1: Adam Richardson for the graphics, please Alladin for the photography.
Speaker 1: Now come join me next week for one of the
Speaker 1: biggest guests I've ever had. I have got next week,
Speaker 1: Mark Frost, the co creator of Twin Peaks. If you've
Speaker 1: never seen Twin Peaks or Twin Peaks the Return, make
Speaker 1: sure you watch everything you can watch Twin Peaks before
Speaker 1: next week. I promise you it will be worth your time.
Speaker 1: It's a very very special episode. Thank you all for listening.
Speaker 1: That is it for now. Have a lovely week, and
Speaker 1: in the meantime, now more than ever, be excellent to
Speaker 1: each other and acts of Crust