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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds, and President Trump warned Judge Aldo that

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Speaker 1: he could end up like Ruth Bader Ginsburg and die

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Speaker 1: the country. Wow, Donald Trump, heaven a day. We have

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Speaker 1: such a great show for you today. To the Contrary Zone,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Syke steps by to talk about Jdvance's presidential as

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Speaker 1: for ration just slowly disappearing. Then we'll talk to Congressman

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Speaker 1: Jared Moskowitz about former ag Bondi refusing to show up

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Speaker 1: to congressional hearings. But first the news smile.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that usually fuels the economy in

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Speaker 2: this time of year and puels summer vacations, bigs purchases

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Speaker 2: because they've defunded the IRS tax refunds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So here's what's going on. Donald Trump. I

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Speaker 1: It's a good progressive taxation, of course, or at least

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Speaker 1: it seems. Again, I don't want to give Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what the giveaway was, is that Goldman

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Speaker 1: it's not what they said it would be. I know,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be shocked to hear that administration may

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Speaker 1: have been misleading its supporters. It's very unusual because this

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Speaker 1: so here we are, Color me shocked, Color me shocked.

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Speaker 1: Known to be such good actors and not complete career criminals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, never doing opportunism, okay, never. Interestingly, one of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is smart, This is like, it's funny because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we should also give credit out was with Warren's

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Speaker 2: The same reason why you see like those playdough sculptures

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Speaker 1: So this is interesting that Orbon had this relationship with CEPAC.

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Speaker 1: there's probably more to it. Charlie Sykes is the author

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Speaker 3: Hey, congratulations Mollie. I'm guessing that did you Like most

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Speaker 3: Well, that's right. And also, I mean this is an

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Speaker 3: big back then. But you listen to him and he

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Speaker 3: is stuck on his playbook. He thinks that he can

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Speaker 3: win on taxes, crime, immigration, and men playing in women's

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Speaker 3: sports because that was the playbook that worked for him before.

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Speaker 3: And yet twenty twenty six, they feel like, no, people,

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Speaker 3: you know, we've kind of moved on. And so there's

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Speaker 3: certainty illness to Trump's agenda. But that's what people do.

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Speaker 3: People who are successful, right, will play the hit. They'll

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Speaker 3: play the same hits over and over again.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I also thinks obsession with oil m is just you know,

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Speaker 1: oil Time magazine and certain things that were big in

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Speaker 1: the eighties.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, late night comedians, late night comedians, all of

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Speaker 3: those things, and so and and and it's obsession with

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Speaker 3: tariffs goes back. So it's like they're stuck. They are

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Speaker 3: not reactive to the moment. And by reacting, I mean

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Speaker 3: they're just not sensitive. There's a tone deafness to this.

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Speaker 3: That's extraordinary. I mean, if you're sitting around earlier this year,

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Speaker 3: I'm guess saying that that rational political advisors would tell

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Speaker 3: the president. Okay, you know one of your vulnerabilities is affordability.

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Speaker 3: You know, you got elected on affordability. You said day

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Speaker 3: one inflation would end. You know, let's let's figure out

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Speaker 3: a way to turn that around, because you don't want

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Speaker 3: to be underwater on the economy. And Trump says, hold

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Speaker 3: my beer, I'm going to launch a completely unnecessary war

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Speaker 3: in Iran, which will disrupt the world economy and cause

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Speaker 3: gas prices to soar and make it impossible for farmers

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Speaker 3: to get fertilizer. Okay, so what is the rational connection

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Speaker 3: between here's your problem, what you ought to be doing

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Speaker 3: versus what you are actually doing right now? And oh,

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Speaker 3: by the way, I'm going to post more me as

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Speaker 3: Jesus memes and pick a fight with the pope.

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Speaker 1: I understand that, like part of Donald Trump's appeal ten

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Speaker 1: years ago was that he was a poster, was that

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Speaker 1: he was like you got to hit you saw the

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Speaker 1: real Donald Trump whatever, Like you didn't have staffers doing

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Speaker 1: his Internet. It was him and you couldn't control him,

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Speaker 1: and there was some feeling that, like you had real

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Speaker 1: access to him. But at this point nothing good has

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Speaker 1: come from that social media freed in at least a year,

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Speaker 1: Like when do they wrestle the phone out of his head?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Never?

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Speaker 3: I mean never, That's not going to happen. And that's

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Speaker 3: part of the problem, isn't it. So I do get

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Speaker 3: the sense that whatever the poll numbers are saying about

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Speaker 3: MAGA voters, I think right now they're in a permanent

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Speaker 3: make an expression like that, cringing, they're kind of challenging,

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Speaker 3: rolling their eyes, thinking oh man, when is he gonna stop?

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Speaker 3: The number of people that you're starting to see saying like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I used to like the guy, but now

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Speaker 3: he just seems so you know, arrogant and erratic, like wait,

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Speaker 3: you know, you guys weren't paying attention. We were warned,

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Speaker 3: but well, and you know what, I don't know what

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Speaker 3: you think about this, you know, because I did an

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Speaker 3: interview with the German reporter earlier today and he was saying,

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Speaker 3: why is Trump doing some of this? And you have

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Speaker 3: to go back to twenty sixteen, remember when Trump said

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Speaker 3: I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and

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Speaker 3: shoot somebody and not lose a vote. I think that

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Speaker 3: he increasingly believes that, but part of him goes, this

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Speaker 3: is amazing what I can get away with. It almost

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Speaker 3: feels as if he's testing the limits. How far can

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Speaker 3: I push these roofs, How far can't I go? What

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Speaker 3: can I get them to believe or accept? And every

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Speaker 3: single day it's like poke, poke, poke, and the fact that,

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Speaker 3: you know, the Jesus meme blew up so badly that

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Speaker 3: he had to, you know, uncharacteristically back off and delete it.

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Speaker 3: And then what does you do? Two days later he

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Speaker 3: posts another one. It's like he's daring his supporters be

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Speaker 3: offended by what I'm going to do. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: treat you guys like the idiots I think you are.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm kind of hoping you don't realize that

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Speaker 3: I'm treating you like an idiot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that pushing on the It's funny because

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Speaker 1: I think about The Wall Street Journal had a really

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Speaker 1: good piece yesterday about like this way in which Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump over the last year has had to delete things

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Speaker 1: which he never used to do, and like remind me

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Speaker 1: of Q and On right in the early in the

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Speaker 1: in the first term, like Trump would would do something

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Speaker 1: that related to Q and on retweets something and people

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Speaker 1: would get hysterical and he would say, like, I'm just

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Speaker 1: trolling the libs. But this is a little different.

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Speaker 3: It is, it is different, and it's just it's sort

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Speaker 3: of an indication though that that he's that he's out

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Speaker 3: of control and and not focused on things that people

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Speaker 3: is thinking about. If you're actually concerned about how do

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Speaker 3: I pay for my guess, you know, how am I

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Speaker 3: going to put food on the table? I really am

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Speaker 3: concerned about the fact that we are going to work,

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Speaker 3: And then you see the president who is it looks

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Speaker 3: like he's out of touch and frivolous. Yeah, and this

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Speaker 3: is that's just that's just not a good look.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. And also I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about the door Dash Granny for a minute. So earlier

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Speaker 1: this week, this grandmother who delivers food to pay for

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Speaker 1: her husband's cancer treatment, came. They organized like a pre

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Speaker 1: you know, Trump loves like these kind of made for

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Speaker 1: TV moments. So she comes orders food. It's to promote

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Speaker 1: no tax on tips. So now there are a couple

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Speaker 1: of things about this. One is that she may have

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Speaker 1: some connection to the Republican Party. Okay, that actually don't

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Speaker 1: care about because even if she was like a whatever,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that is the top line here. I

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Speaker 1: actually think the top line is, like you, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you saw the picture, but it's like almost

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Speaker 1: eight year old billionaire, richest cabinet in American history, giving

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Speaker 1: a tip to a woman in her seventies who has

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Speaker 1: been forced to take another job because of her husband's cancer.

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Speaker 1: And now the tips, which are not that much money,

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Speaker 1: are not going to be taxed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, scraps for the little people.

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Speaker 1: I mean discuss Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was a little bit cringey. But you know,

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Speaker 3: what's the thing about, And I'm sure you've had more

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Speaker 3: experience at this than I have. Rich people can be

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Speaker 3: tone deaf, you know, hang around like really really rich people.

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Speaker 3: They just have no sort of clue about how they

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Speaker 3: look or behave or the scale of values. And so

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, They're like, here's my one hundred dollars bill

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Speaker 3: that I'm going to give to you, which I'm sure

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Speaker 3: we'll pay off all of those cancer treatment bills. And

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Speaker 3: by the way, that was where you know, I thought

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Speaker 3: that he seemed a little bit toned at because you know,

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Speaker 3: he went through the mantra that I just gave you.

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Speaker 3: You know, this was about taxes, and then he talks

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Speaker 3: about crime and how terrible the Democrats are in open

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Speaker 3: orders and women playing in sports, and he asked women

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Speaker 3: about members says, I don't have an opinion on this.

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Speaker 3: I'm just here to talk about taxes on tips. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it was it was not a master class and all

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Speaker 3: of that. But I think this is part of the

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Speaker 3: problem the administration has. If you're in a room with billionaires,

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Speaker 3: guess what, they're not going to be hyper sensitive to

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Speaker 3: the problems of the working middle class. And at some

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Speaker 3: point the guy that ran for president is like, I

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Speaker 3: am for you, they are for them. People are gonna go, well, no,

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Speaker 3: you're you're hanging out with your cronies and stuff. And

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Speaker 3: yet you'll, you know, take some scraps off the table

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Speaker 3: and you'll throw it my way. But we're not that stupid.

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Speaker 3: And Trump was just thinking you should be grateful for me,

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Speaker 3: you working class people.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. Charlie Sikes, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for making the time for me today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you anytime.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Jared moscow Its represents Florida's twenty seventh district. Welcome, Welcome, Congressman.

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Mally? First we had to talk about you got two

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Speaker 1: members of Congress, Congressman Eric Swawall, who has been on

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Speaker 1: this protest many times and who I did not think

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Speaker 1: was whatever the allegations are are horrific. And then also

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Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez, another person. You know, I had two staffers

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Speaker 1: come out, well, one staffer came out of having been

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Speaker 1: sexually harassed. Another staffer lit herself on fire and died

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Speaker 1: by a suicide. Now they both resigned, and it was

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Speaker 1: sort of a deal. I actually think that's kind of

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Speaker 1: a good thing. Do you think that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen AOC say that it feels political,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just curious what you think.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm glad they're resigned. I'm glad that Congress didn't

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Speaker 4: take the old position of well, we have to have

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Speaker 4: ethics investigations that'll take two years. I mean, listen, in

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Speaker 4: Tony's instance, I think if you have a sexual affair

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Speaker 4: with one of your staffers and they light themselves on

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Speaker 4: fire and kill themselves, I don't think we needed to

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Speaker 4: wait for an ethics investigation. And so look, I think

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Speaker 4: both of them resigned. They did the right thing to

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Speaker 4: leave the body out of this. Had they not done that,

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Speaker 4: I think they both went to it and expelled this week,

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Speaker 4: and that would have been the right thing as well.

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Speaker 4: And so look, I think there are things that you

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Speaker 4: can be accused of that need to go through ethics.

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Speaker 4: That's why ethics is there. It's not getting ready or

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Speaker 4: due process. But you don't have a you don't have

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Speaker 4: a right to serve in Congress. This is not like

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Speaker 4: a right to be here.

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Speaker 1: Also, the ethics investigation process, they have a pretty low

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Speaker 1: hit ratio.

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Speaker 4: Well, it also take too long. That's the real big problem.

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Speaker 4: If we were like, well, how do we fix the system?

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Speaker 4: Is this stuff has to move faster. It shouldn't take

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Speaker 4: two years to do all of this stuff. That's how

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Speaker 4: we said, how can we fix this? Is members should

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Speaker 4: support the Ethics Committee and the ethics rules, and we

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Speaker 4: shouldn't just obviously and run in the mill cases just

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Speaker 4: get rid of people because they're accused of stuff. But

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Speaker 4: you have to have a fast process. This has to

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Speaker 4: be done in months and not years. That's something that

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Speaker 4: probably should be discussed on a bipartisan basis.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about where Congress is now. We

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Speaker 1: got Foyer right, they're going to try to jam that through.

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Speaker 1: We're still in a shutdown, a DHS shutdown, which is insane.

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Speaker 1: And there's also this, you know, war powers. What is

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Speaker 1: happening with war powers while Donald Trump is doing this

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Speaker 1: war Well.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget Trump is a doctor, Jesus, Jesus, doctor, don't

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Speaker 4: forget that.

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Speaker 1: That's right. And he said he's having a fight with

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Speaker 1: the pope right now.

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Speaker 4: But which, by the way, when I was making a

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Speaker 4: list of my enn the Pope was number one. I

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Speaker 4: was like, who should I meme battle with this morning?

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Speaker 4: I was like, the Pope? Why not the Pope? I

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Speaker 4: already offended everyone with my doctor Jesus, why not just

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Speaker 4: go all in. Let's go after the Catholics.

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Speaker 1: We're Jews, so we know that you don't fuck with

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Speaker 1: the Pope.

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Speaker 4: I love the Pope, Okay, I love all popes. What

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Speaker 4: I like about Pope it also doesn't seem to be

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Speaker 4: like that's the like, that's the guy on the whole planet. Right,

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Speaker 4: You're like, okay, look, the Iran war. Polling is bad.

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Speaker 4: What can we do, like what was the workshopping in

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Speaker 4: the room. They're like, Okay, how do we flood the zone?

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Speaker 4: How do we get people off of the Iran war?

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Speaker 4: We could say Trump is Jesus. Oh, that's a great idea.

650
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 4: And what if that doesn't work, well, we could just

651
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: start attacking the pope. Good, how about we do both.

652
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: Let's double down on that.

653
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Speaker 1: So let's talk about this war power, Zach, I mean,

654
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: where are we with the war powers? Give us this

655
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: sort of Well, we're.

656
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 4: Gonna be voting on that again today. I will be

657
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: voting yes for a second time. I voted yes the

658
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: first time. I'll be voting yes the second time. I

659
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 4: love this conundrum they have found themselves in. You know,

660
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: they keep saying, well, it's an excursion, it's this and that.

661
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: But then every time the president describes it, he's like,

662
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: it's a war.

663
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: We're at war.

664
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: I won the war. We're winning the war. I Ran

665
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: has lost the war. This is what happens in war. Right,

666
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: It's war. It's war. Pete Hegstaff talks about the war

667
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: and the battle of war and the theater of war. Right,

668
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 4: And then we're like, well, yeah, of course it's a war.

669
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 4: That's why Congress needs to execute it's Article one authority,

670
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 4: and they're like, well, it's just an excursion. It's just

671
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: an excursion. So listen, Mike. Mike Johnson has weakened Congress

672
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: to the point of a relevancy. I'm really worried about

673
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: this going forward. That's why we are the Article one

674
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: branch of government. We were first, not the executive. All

675
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: this power has gone to the executive. Democrats and Republicans

676
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 4: have done that to themselves or a period of years,

677
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: but never this bad, at this speed. This is clearly

678
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 4: a war. Congress needs to vote on it, and you know,

679
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 4: I think you're going to see another big vote by

680
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 4: Democrats saying to our Republican colleagues, guys, it's a war.

681
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 4: Whether you support it or you don't, that's a different vote.

682
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 4: But the idea that this is Congress's power. But here's

683
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: the problem, Mali. They don't want to vote on it.

684
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: They don't want to vote on it. So what they're

685
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: willing to do is they're willing to undermine the Constitution,

686
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: undermine the legislative branch, weaken us further on the path

687
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: to the president becoming a king, the executive branch becoming

688
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: the monarchy because the legislative branch won't matter anymore. We

689
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: won't matter. The only thing we'll do is we'll pass

690
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: a budget. But you know that's becoming even questionable because

691
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 4: you know, now the president can pay people when he

692
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: wants keep things open, when Congress you know, doesn't fund stuff,

693
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 4: or even when Congress fund stuff, he just doesn't send the.

694
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: Money out, which is a Nixon then.

695
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: Which is a Nixon thing, and the impoundment clause. So

696
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 4: the idea that we have weakened Congress to the point

697
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: of round is why our polling is terrible. I mean,

698
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: what do we we have an eighteen percent approval rating.

699
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: I think herpes is more popular.

700
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: Right now, we have Mike Johnson. He is a complete

701
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: sick vant, not checked in at all.

702
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: If you listen to Kevin McCarthy the other day on

703
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 4: c SPAN, he literally gave an interview and he said that, well,

704
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: you know, Donald Trump is both the speaker and the whip, right, Okay, Well,

705
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: I mean we knew that Mike Johnson was costplaying, but

706
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 4: I think that's news to Mike Johnson and Tom Emmer. Basically,

707
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 4: what we've done is we've given full control of the

708
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: House to the executive branch.

709
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: We're cruising into the midterms, but we still have the

710
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: summer at least. Mike Johnson's big move seems to be

711
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: sending people home, right, I mean, that's basically what he

712
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: does when he can't figure out what to do.

713
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: But Molly, give him credit. He is great at that. Yes,

714
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: he's really good at being like, go home, don't be here, right,

715
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: go to work in your district, right, which, by the way,

716
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 4: is important. But you know, he just wants it to

717
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 4: happen every week. He would be happy if we never

718
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 4: came back quite frankly.

719
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: Right, all right, but you guys do have to put

720
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: in you do have to do. There has to be

721
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: a congressional approval for some of the positions in Trump's cabinet,

722
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: including the ag.

723
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously that's in the Senate, Okay.

724
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: But you still do hearings and you still do that.

725
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, But we don't even have They ontly have a

726
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: nominee yet, Molly, they don't even have They don't even

727
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 4: have a name, which is you know, it's just different

728
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: that the idea that they weren't contemplating because in Homeland

729
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 4: they did, right, Nome who will go down as the

730
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 4: worst Secretary of Homeland in the history of that department.

731
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 4: They immediately had someone move her out, move someone in,

732
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 4: have a transition ag. They don't have a name, which

733
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 4: is interesting, you know. And now the former Attorney general

734
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 4: who's been subpoena is defying a congressional subpoena.

735
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: Right now, let's talk about that, because this is the

736
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: Ebstein's oversight hearing process. You're on this committee and Garcia's

737
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: the ranking you were supposed to have BONDI subpoenaed her.

738
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: She is no longer in the job.

739
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 4: Discuss well, I mean, the congressional subpoena has nothing to

740
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 4: do with whether she's the Attorney General or altern General.

741
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: It's you're the person you get subpoena. Your title doesn't

742
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 4: get subpoened. So at the end of the day, they're

743
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 4: trying to reschedule it. But if they don't reschedule it,

744
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: she needs to be found in contempt of Congress. You know.

745
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 4: This was what we were talking about when the Clintons

746
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: were subpoena, like, you know, you're going to do this.

747
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 4: The Democrats let that happen, and there was a question

748
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: about whether or not the Republicans would hold bond y

749
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: to the same rules. We're going to find out. I

750
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 4: think she needs to be here on the flip side, Molly,

751
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: I mean I wouldn't. I don't blame Pam. I mean,

752
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: who wants to spend four hours with Comer? Okay? Comber's

753
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: on her side though, you know, And yeah, but you

754
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 4: still got to be in a room with him, Okay.

755
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 4: So in that respect, like I get why she's like,

756
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 4: please don't make me do that, right, Okay, But I

757
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 4: think it's.

758
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: A really good point when oversight. When James Comer and

759
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: his infinite wisdom decided to call up boas Bill and

760
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, a former president and a former presidential candidate,

761
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: he was setting up a new standard, right, he was

762
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: creating a world in which former presidents can be subpoenaed

763
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: and give testimony to Congress. They both did it.

764
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: So now I'm under threat from Comer to hold them

765
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 4: in contempt. Right, So now Pam, who is the former

766
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 4: attorney general, should be able to the same standard. Let's

767
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: find out.

768
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: Do you get a sense from poor dumb Jim Comer

769
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: that he will do that?

770
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: Well, you know, James, you know, it's what we love

771
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 4: about him. I think he'll lose the vote. I think

772
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 4: there are a bunch of Republicans on the Oversight Committee

773
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 4: that will hold her in contempt because it's over the

774
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: Epstein issue.

775
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: Right.

776
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 4: If this was something else, Molly and maybe not, but

777
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 4: over Epstein, I think they'll hold her in contempt. So

778
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: my guess is now they're trying to figure out a

779
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 4: new date for her to come. But my guess is

780
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 4: that she will eventually be at a deposition. It won't

781
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: be televised anyway, right, She'll be out of deposition somewhere

782
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: in the basement of this building or somewhere else. But

783
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 4: I mean, there are a lot of questions to ask her,

784
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: like we get let's go back down memory lane for

785
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 4: a second. Why did you give those binders to those

786
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: Republican influencers right about Oh, here's the Epstein stuff. Why

787
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 4: did you say the list was on your desk? Why

788
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 4: did you then say there was no list? Why did

789
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: you do those things? Were you directed by the president

790
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 4: to downplay Epstein right when you didn't want to release

791
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: the files, when you told everybody it was a democratic hoax,

792
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 4: right when you said, oh, there's truckloads of documents that

793
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 4: we're getting, and then the President want to release them.

794
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: When the discharge petition started, we involved in any meetings

795
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: that where we said we're going to fight this discharge petition.

796
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 4: Why you know is that the reason why you know

797
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 4: your number two at the FBI, Dan Bongenio, left, was

798
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 4: an over disagreement on Epstein. Remember she's all under oath

799
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 4: for all this stuff. Why did the White House tell

800
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: Republican members, if you sign up on the discharge petition,

801
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 4: it's a hostile act against the White House?

802
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: Right?

803
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: Right? What do you think about you know the fact

804
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: that the FBI director under oath went at a hearing

805
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: and said that Epstein only trafficked people to himself, knowing

806
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: full well that there were co conspirators in the documents

807
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 4: that we now see, and that those co conspirators' names

808
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: were redacted. Why were the co conspirator's names redacted? Why

809
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: were victim's names released? Why did Cashpttel under oath say

810
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: that Trump's name were in the document less than one

811
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 4: hundred times? We now know Trump's name was in the

812
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: document more times than Harry Potter's name is in the

813
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: book of Harry Potter. Why did you do all of

814
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 4: those things? Right? These are questions we have of her,

815
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: and she's going to have to answer those questions.

816
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: Under earth, has anyone thought about having Bongino testify.

817
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 4: Well, they'll have to subpoena him. I don't know ultimately

818
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 4: if they'll have the votes for that, but remember when

819
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 4: Robert Garcia gets the gavel in January, after we win

820
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 4: the House in November, you can be sure Dan Bongino

821
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 4: is going to be in front of that committee.

822
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Speaker 1: One of the things that this crew does is they're

823
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: not so great at lying. So I do wonder if

824
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Speaker 1: you were as to subpoena Bongino and subpoena Bondi. Well,

825
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: you'll get Bondi, but to see if the testimony matches

826
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: with each other, well.

827
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Speaker 4: Of course you want to find those inconsistencies. There's no

828
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: question about that. Right. That's what the Commerce Secretary ran

829
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: into when he had made public statements in a podcast

830
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: and then in front of the Senate gave different answers,

831
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 4: and now we had dramatic inconsistencies in his relationship with Epstein. Right. Oh,

832
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 4: you know in the podcast interview he said, you know,

833
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 4: we went into his house, he was my neighbor. We

834
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: saw the massage table. He said that these the good

835
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: types of massages, and me and my wife decided we

836
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: would never be in a room with him again.

837
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Speaker 1: Accept at as private island.

838
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Speaker 4: And then in the Senate hearing, he's like, yeah, I

839
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: took my whole family and my kids and the nanny

840
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 4: to the island. Nanny's well, you need a nanny for

841
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 4: every kid. And you know I did that not only

842
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 4: after I made that comment with my wife in the house,

843
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 4: but I did it after he was already facing charges

844
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 4: of this, you know. So, I mean, these are questions

845
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: to ask I mean the Commerce Secretary. I think Robert

846
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: Garcia will also call him as well. I mean, he

847
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: said Epstein was one of the greatest blackmailers of all time. Well, Molly,

848
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 4: how would Howard know that? How would you know that?

849
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 4: Like either you were blackmailed. You know, people were blackmailed,

850
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: you know, Like, how would you know that? And so

851
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 4: these are the questions that the American people, on a

852
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: bipartisan basis want. They want these answers, which is why

853
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 4: the President's strategy on Epstein was a complete and total failure.

854
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: It would be better if he'd just gotten this. I

855
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: got it out of the way nine months earlier. And

856
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: didn't go on this whole long thing because now it

857
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 4: just looks like a cover up, cover up for who?

858
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: Cover for? Why? What? These are the questions that all

859
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 4: these folks are going to get asked.

860
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, now just tell me what you can do with

861
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: the Bondie situation. I mean, like my grandfather was jailed

862
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Speaker 1: for contempt of Congress.

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Speaker 4: If she doesn't show, she'll be held in contempt first

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Speaker 4: by the committee, then that'll come to the House for

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Speaker 4: a vote to be held in contempt. My guess is

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Speaker 4: it doesn't get there. My guess is they get a

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Speaker 4: new date on the calendar. It's months from now, of course,

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Speaker 4: but they get a new date on the calendar, and

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Speaker 4: we don't go down this road of being held in

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Speaker 4: contempt of Congress. By way, if she's held in contempt

871
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Speaker 4: of Congress, model she loses her law license.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is bad for her lobbying career. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that I'm struck by when I watch, and

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Speaker 1: I watch a lot of congressional testimony because I have

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Speaker 1: no life is on c SPAN, is that these people

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Speaker 1: who are there's quite a lot of lying in this administration.

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Speaker 1: But for whatever reason.

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Speaker 4: Really, I had noticed more attention to that.

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Speaker 1: But well whatever reason, Like, sometimes they don't lie, and

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Speaker 1: it's very strange. Like I'm thinking about the Chris Nome

881
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Speaker 1: hearing where you asked first you had this there was

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Speaker 1: another Democratic member of Congress.

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Speaker 4: Sidney kamlonder dub from California.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, asked if she was if Nome was having a

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Speaker 1: fair sexual relationship with Corey Lebandowski, and Nome screamed at her.

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Speaker 1: Then you asked it again and she refused to answer

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Speaker 1: it again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. What I did, Molly is like, I was like, well,

889
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Speaker 4: she didn't say no, right, which I asked in a

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Speaker 4: nice way. I was like, this is not a gotcha.

891
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Speaker 4: I feel like you need to just clean up your answers.

892
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Speaker 4: Is it a no? And then she was like you're

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Speaker 4: a socialist and you attack women. And I was like, okay,

894
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Speaker 4: that's not a no. No, Okay, I mean now we

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Speaker 4: know the answer to that question. And then obviously the

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Speaker 4: stuff came out about her husband. Yeah, that was wild.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think it's interesting that there are moments in

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Speaker 1: this administration where people don't lie and why.

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Speaker 4: She was under oath obviously.

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Speaker 1: But they lie under oaths all the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but she obviously didn't want to have said Corey

902
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Speaker 4: by saying no, she decided to not answer that question.

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Speaker 4: I think her non answer there, okay. I think her

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Speaker 4: saying that, you know, the president approved her abuse of

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Speaker 4: two hundred million dollars for a advertising contract that she

906
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Speaker 4: gave to her friends that with a company that was

907
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Speaker 4: only eleven days old, and that the President approved all that.

908
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Speaker 4: I think that that was a problem for her. But

909
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Speaker 4: I think the big problem for her is that she

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Speaker 4: took the president's signature or not not a big problem

911
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Speaker 4: because I support it, but a big problem for her

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Speaker 4: in the Trump orbit, okay, is that she took the

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Speaker 4: president's signature issue, which was pulling at sixty percent in August,

914
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Speaker 4: and in January, after mask men killed two American citizens

915
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Speaker 4: in the streets of America, took that number down to

916
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Speaker 4: thirty nine percent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, is that incompetence?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah. Let's the first of all, she wasn't running

919
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Speaker 4: the department. Corey was running the department, right, I think

920
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Speaker 4: that's I think that's clear. Now Corey was the one

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Speaker 4: who fired the FEMA administrator. I mean, you know, Corey

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Speaker 4: did that in her office, sitting at her desk, you know.

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Speaker 4: So I think there was rampant in confidence there. But

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Speaker 4: I also think what we're going to find when we

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Speaker 4: get the gavel in January is it wasn't just in competence,

926
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Speaker 4: that it was actually a criminal enterprise being run out

927
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Speaker 4: of homeland. A lot of shaking down vendors, a lot

928
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Speaker 4: of shaking down people that are owed money. I think

929
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Speaker 4: you're going to find, you know, contracts went to friends,

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Speaker 4: they were kickbacks. By the way, I'm not defending her

931
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Speaker 4: because she's indefensible, but I don't even know how much

932
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Speaker 4: Christy knew that was going on. I think we're going

933
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Speaker 4: to find that Corey was running the place and she

934
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Speaker 4: was just supposed to smile on camera and wear different hats.

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Speaker 1: She really likes hats. Clearly, there's so much stuff to unravel.

936
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Speaker 1: Are you getting like a lot of whistleblower complaints and

937
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Speaker 1: a lot of people coming forward starting to come forward.

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Speaker 4: You mean from like the administration?

939
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just in general from the administration.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, out of homeland. Once they left, a lot of

941
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Speaker 4: vendors started talking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, really interesting. Congressmen. Congressman Jared, thank you for

943
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Speaker 1: joining us.

944
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Speaker 4: I get two Congressmens. I love that.

945
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you're going to be a congressman forever.

946
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Speaker 4: God helped me. If that's the case, No, no.

947
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Speaker 3: Moment, so long, Jesse, Kat Miley dunk fast.

948
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Speaker 2: So we were earlier talking about who might be the most

949
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Speaker 2: pick me member of the administration. That is always just saying,

950
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Speaker 2: mister Trump, I will do whatever you would like. And

951
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: you replied to me that bretted Carr is giving Todd

952
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: blancher on for his money. And here we see the

953
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Speaker 2: FCC has a fast Trump for people who are Trump's

954
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Speaker 2: media critics like you and I.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and also right now it's only being used for

956
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Speaker 1: people like Jimmy Kimmel. Someday you and I may get there.

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Speaker 1: We would have to be you know.

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Speaker 2: What, CBS gives us a show we'll get this hath

959
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: happened to us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just such a great example of the many

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Speaker 1: which ways these people are doing stuff to get Trump happy,

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Speaker 1: to make Trump happy, to make their leader happy, to

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Speaker 1: do the kind of nefarious stuff that we suspected all

964
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Speaker 1: this time. And I mean this is out in the open.

965
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Speaker 1: This is like the out in the open grift. But

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Speaker 1: there's other like less out in the open grift coming

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Speaker 1: to and so that's what all of this is. And

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Speaker 1: of course, So here we are, ladies and gentlemen. Brendan Carr.

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Speaker 1: This guy. It's so crazy because Biden could have fired

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Speaker 1: Brendan Carr like he kept him on.

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Speaker 2: Was he in office during Biden?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Trump, He's from Trump one point zero. I mean

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Speaker 1: this is just yet another Yeah. Anyway, visit me in

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Speaker 1: a pineapple under the sea. That's it for this episode

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