1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang and Welcome Back Victory Monday. Haven't had 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: one of these in a while. Sounds like credit need 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: to be given to Buddha Baker, who, according to several players, 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: spoke up this week kinda. Murray called it a look 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: in the mirror type speech. It worked on today's show. 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: There was a lot to like from Sunday. Two things 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: in particular. Those stood out A son reddick obviously, and 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: the offense. It performed better. It looked better too. It's 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, episode three seventy and it starts now 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griga, Lew and 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday, proud 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Visit Easy Cardinals dot com Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: the right, throws near sighte of Fitz cart pits into 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: the up to the touchdown. Here's Craig Grilu and Mike Jarecki. 16 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: So big picture it for me, MJA looking back and 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: now having a full twenty four hours since Week fourteen 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: came into a conclusion for the Cardinals with that twenty 19 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: six seven win at the New York Giants. What stood 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: out to you just the way they responded. Because you're 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: on a three game losing streak, we know that the 22 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: offense hasn't been able to move the football or put 23 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: up four hundred points or in this case, you know, 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: over twenty points, and so there was a lot of 25 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: negativity last week. People were questioning will this offense work, 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: which is ridiculous, and there are titles their opinions, and 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: then you know, they gotta team has got to beat 28 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: on Kyler Murray. They know how to defend him now. 29 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: So I just like that they blocked out the noise. 30 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: There was a lot of negativity and you cannot change 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: your scheme during the season, and then it's always refreshing 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: to hear you know, how practice went. Now we can 33 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: go back to other previous weeks they had a good 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: practice and maybe going to Carolina and took them flat. 35 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: So you know, it's got to be carryover. But I 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: like the fact that, you know, when we got a 37 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: chance to talk to Buddha and some of the other players, 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: it was about do your job. Okay, just do your job, 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: and it really is about execution. Correct in that game. 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you go back to last week. The Rams 41 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: had a ton of first downs, time of possession. They 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: are to move to football. The Cardinals were very similar, 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: and let's be honest, I mean, even though the record 44 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: might not reflected, the Giants were playing for something. They 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: were all of a sudden, they won four in a row. 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: You know this new defense they're playing, you know it's 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: going to be able to stop opponents. The Cardinals dictated 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: the game like the Rams did a week ago. And 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: when you're doing that, you're playing ahead of the sticks. 50 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: And the Cardinals did that. So I was impressed with 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: the process. They know what was at stake, and I 52 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: like the fact that they blocked out the noise because 53 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: there was a lot of activity last week like this 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: team is going to lose out And again, I think 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: on this show, we always look ahead when it comes 56 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: to schedule in the division, but the whole thing was 57 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: focused on the next game, and I think they did that. 58 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals answered the bell, and yes, the noise has certainly 59 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: been quieted, I don't think it's been eliminated because now 60 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: this team needs to stack on to this win. They 61 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: need to go in and beat the Eagles. They need 62 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: to go in and beat the forty nine ers and 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: have better efforts against the Rams on the road to 64 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: close out the regular season. But a lot of focus 65 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of attention about Hassan Reddick and the 66 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense. In my mind, MJ, you can't go wrong 67 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: with either one. But the bigger story coming out of 68 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: Sunday Hassan Reddick, but the offense and what they were 69 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: able to do, and it was just a slight tweak, 70 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: a couple of different tweaks, but that might have been 71 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: a turning point for them, and we'll have to see 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: if they can completely turn the corner by what they 73 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: do in these next couple of weeks. But let's focus 74 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: on the story because I don't know if there is 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: a better story with regard to the Arizona Cardinals right 76 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: now than his son Reddick. And it really is a 77 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: story of perseverance. We've talked about him a lot here 78 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: over the course of his career. You're talking about the 79 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: former first round draft pick, his fourth season, but his 80 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: first year with the same head coach, the same defensive coordinator, 81 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: the same defensive scheme, and knowing that he is only 82 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: going to be asked to do one thing, and that 83 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: is played outside linebacker. And I think the highlight for 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: Reddick came Sunday. All of that hard work and he 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: is able now to have this moment and we can 86 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: all share in this moment because he allowed us to 87 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: share in that moment, and I think that's important for everyone. Yeah, 88 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: and we'll get into what he did in the game, 89 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: but you know, after the game, he went over to 90 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: the bench and he was emotional, and I think those 91 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: tiers were all coming out saying I can do this. 92 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: This is not just a one game because let's be honest, 93 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: he didn't get he hadn't had a sex since week 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: seven and so he you know, we'll get into some 95 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: of the details there where he talked about, but I 96 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: think all that emotion was I can play in this league, 97 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, And I think he knew that initially. But 98 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to be a guy that's bounced around 99 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: one year contracts here and there. I'm looking, you know, 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: Steve would be the first two emit. Steve Kind, the 101 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals general manager that you know, they thought he would 102 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: be able to rush the pastor he's undersized and it 103 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: just didn't work out and of course it didn't help 104 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: with three different coordinators in three years, and so he 105 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: worked hard and never complained. You talked to him in 106 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: the locker room. I hadn't noticed a lot of times 107 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: you were talking to him, not with a microphone, just hey, 108 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: how's it going. Because we know that when Wilkes came 109 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: in here and and they wanted to him to play 110 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: inside and all this other stuff, and it wasn't his strength. 111 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: But you got to do what the coaches say, you know, 112 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: the whole ideas coaches put players in a position to 113 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: make plays. And that's why I give Vans a lot 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: of credit. But yeah, it couldn't happen to a better guy. 115 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: You know. I know a lot of people are you know, 116 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: talking about they should resign him and all that other stuff. 117 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: And you know, Chandler Jones is going to be the 118 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: priority going into the offseason in the final year, and 119 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: then what do you do with Marcus Golden and his 120 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: sound reddick. But the fact that here we are five 121 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: years later and you're seeing it, and it's also a 122 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: thing where you know, people thought when they didn't pick 123 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: up the fifth year option, I never thought he was 124 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: in jeopardy in training. Can they needed a sound Reddick. 125 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: I think we mentioned that just on a rotation base. 126 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: Bring it in Knard so great story, but give him 127 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: a lot of credit. Give Vans and the coaches credit 128 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: because they believed in him. And if you believe in 129 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: a player, he'll respond like like he's done this year. 130 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: The one thing I like about and there's a lot 131 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: of things to like about Reddick. He never focuses on 132 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: the negativity. He never uses anything as an excuse. You 133 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: talk to him, either on or off the record, It's 134 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: all about the moment, not what happened yesterday, last week, 135 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: last season, two years ago. What can I do moving 136 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: forward to make sure I'm a part of this defense 137 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: and I'm a contributor on the defense. How can I 138 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: get better? You mentioned it, he was asked to do 139 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: something that perhaps he wasn't comfortable doing. You try to 140 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: do it, you see if it works. It didn't work, 141 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: so you wouldjust it's unfortunate. Reddick is not the first 142 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: player that this has happened to. He's certainly not the 143 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: first round draft pick that this has happened too. But 144 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: typically when this happens with a first round draft pick, 145 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: you're labeled a bust. You start to hear that noise 146 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: and you don't get heard from again. Reddick. He is 147 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: going to get that contract this offseason. Now, whether it 148 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: comes from the Cardinals or someone else, I don't know. 149 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: But he has certainly solidified him himself this season that 150 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: yes he can play in this league and yes he 151 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: can have a successful career. We talked about it during 152 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: the off season, MJ. This was a make or break 153 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: season for Hassan Reddick, and he is certainly making the 154 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: most of his opportunity. And it is wonderful to see 155 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: because he is a player that you can root for 156 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: because he has gone through so much and now he 157 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: has seen the light of end of the tunnel. He's 158 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: burst through that tunnel. I mean, he is now basking 159 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: in all of this sunshine and all of the recognition, 160 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: and he deserves every single moment and every single minute 161 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: that he is getting this attention. And once probably Wednesday 162 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: comes around, he'll put it aside and focus on the Eagles. Yeah, 163 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: and I don't think anyone batted an eye when the 164 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: Cardinals declined his fifth yeer option. Usually it's a and 165 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: again they had they had the body of work. But 166 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: once again he was playing out a position. So you know, 167 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: give him credit because basically, you know, whether he plays 168 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: here or somewhere else. I mean, the film doesn't lie. 169 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: And he's got ten sacks and we know they come 170 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: in bunches, and he's got three games to go. Can 171 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: you imagine this guy finished the twelve or thirteen sacks? 172 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: What do we talk about Jordan Phillips, what he did 173 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: in one year, different position, nine and a half sacks. 174 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: It's intriguing from a d Lineman standpoint. That was part 175 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: of the conversation when the Cardinals signed him. You know, 176 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: this guy's not just a run stuff or he can 177 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. So and you look at a 178 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: guy like Shack Barrett, you know what he did in 179 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: one year. Obviously he had you know, he had nineteen 180 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: and a half and the Bucks that do it again, 181 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, so you know, I don't know what the 182 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: transition tag and the franchise tag and all that other 183 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: stuff is. But again, Chandler Jones the priority, and then 184 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: you got to see what you want to do with 185 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: Marcus Golden. They did sign Kannard, who's you know, limited 186 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: playing time with the addition of gold and so, but yeah, 187 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Charlie Bowles, and you know, Billy Davis coaches the inside linebackers, 188 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: Charlie coaches the outside. But according to Hassan, he went 189 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: to Brinson Buckner and Charlie and buck would know because 190 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: he's played on the line and how to get to 191 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: the quarterback. So they watched some film and again he 192 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: hadn't had the sack since week seven. So a lot 193 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: of the you know, preparation is during the week where 194 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday it comes natural to you. Reddick after the 195 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: game said, quote, the game plan worked end quote, with 196 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: respects to working with Charlie Bullen and Brentson Buckner. And 197 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: then Reddick added quote, this is the first time I've 198 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: ever had a game like this where everything was just 199 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: working for me. I hit on all cylinders end quote. 200 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: And let's go through what Reddick was able to accomplish 201 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: five sacks, a single game franchise record, first player to 202 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: reach that number this season in the NFL. He doubled 203 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: his season total to a team leading ten, and he 204 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: added three forced fumbles, first player in NFL history since 205 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and two to have at least five sacks 206 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: and three forced fumbles. Green Bay's Vonnie Holiday is the 207 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: last player to do that, and you mentioned it, no sacks, 208 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: not even a quarterback hit in his previous five games. 209 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: You talk about a breakout performance. This is the perfect 210 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: definition of breakout performance. And you know Reddick's not going 211 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: to be satisfied. Not that he's going to try to 212 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: get five sacks next week. But now it's okay, I'm 213 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: now on everyone's scouting report. Now it's up to me 214 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: to show that I can adjust and figure out something else. 215 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: Because he was going up against a solid tackle in 216 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas, now a rookie, but certainly someone that the 217 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: Giants are very high on and had been playing very 218 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: well this season. Yeah, I'm not mistaken. He was the 219 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: first alignment off the board. I know the Cardinals really 220 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: liked him, but they had retained Justin Murray and you know, 221 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: probably had conversation with Marcus Gilbert and then the Cardinals decided, 222 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna go a different direction and they 223 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: get Josh Jones in the third round. So I know 224 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: he was ranked very high and everyone thought because of 225 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: his career in how many years he played, he was 226 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: NFL ready from day one. Now, obviously, when you hire 227 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: a new head coach and you got the young quarterback 228 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: and you got Saint Juan Barkley. You want to start 229 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: building that lineup. And in previous I mean he was 230 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: his his number and both tackles were really over a 231 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: hundred when it came to protecting Colt McCoy in Seattle, 232 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: so you know, in the sounds undersized. And you know 233 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas, he's he's got a good body type. I mean, 234 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: you remember being at the combine looking at him, So yeah, 235 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's fascinating to where it's one week 236 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: to another. But you know, I thought all week, you know, 237 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: once he started practicing and then you start to worry about, 238 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: you know, a hamstring injury, and I wonder now of 239 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: the game, Judge said he had no regrets playing him. 240 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: You know, obviously they wanted him to get reps before 241 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: they go into the offseason. But they may have been 242 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: better off with Cope McCoy. But that's their loss because 243 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: I didn't realize this until this morning. He didn't run 244 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: at all, no rushing attempts for Daniel Jones, and I 245 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: guess that's the first time this season he has not 246 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: had a rushing attempt. But with a hamstring injury, you're limited. 247 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: The Cardinals no first end Kyler Murray Week seventeen against 248 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: the Rams last year, unable to be Kyler Murray. The 249 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: Rams knew it, and it completely changed the ball game 250 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: going into that contest. Yeah, and a lot of times, 251 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, you see coaches on the field, and a 252 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: lot of times the head coaches will shake and then 253 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: maybe your special teams coach worked for you before. But 254 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: I can tell you this when I did sidelines, I 255 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: can't tell you how many GMS pro personnel guys are 256 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: watching the other teams warm of us grect because you 257 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: see the film now you want to match the body 258 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: and you want to see, you know, a scout can 259 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: tell what his skill set is. How does he turn 260 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: his hips if he's a corner, how does he run 261 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: his routes? And there's a reason why they're out there 262 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: before the game because maybe they see something on a 263 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: film that they don't seem the same player. And maybe 264 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals were able to see maybe when he was 265 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: working warming up from a standpoint up, maybe he's not 266 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: as moving as well as we watched the film a 267 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. The other note on Reddick four 268 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: of his five sacks came in the fourth quarter. You 269 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: talk about the benefit of plane with a lead. Cardinals 270 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: entered the fourth quarter with a twenty to seven advantage. 271 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: You make the opponent one dimensional. They have to drop 272 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: back and all of a sudden, As you hear it 273 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: is cliche, but it's true. Defenders pin their air back 274 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden rushed the quarterback and Reddick 275 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: had a sack at least one sack in the final 276 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: three possessions of the Giants, including two on the last drive, 277 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: and it was his strip sack that knocked the ball 278 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: out of McCoy's hands, and the Cardinals were able to 279 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: recover and run out the clock with three kneel downs. 280 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, complimentary football offense get a lead, the defense 281 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: can certainly be a lot more aggressive in their play calling, 282 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: and I think that is something that needs to be 283 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: pointed out too as well, because it's been a while 284 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: since we've seen this Cardinals team play with the lead 285 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: and a sizeable lead at that Yeah, it was twenty nothing, 286 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: twenty three seven, twenty six seven was the final you know, 287 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think they got lucky a few times. 288 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: When Kenyan Drake put the ball in the carpet. Ye 289 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: and earlier in the game I noticed he was he 290 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: was holding his hand, So I don't know, but when 291 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: you have a lead like that at that time in 292 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: the game, you gotta put both hands on the football 293 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: because they're the only way they're gonna get the ball 294 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: out is they're gonna try to punch it out unless 295 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: you obviously turn it over with the interception. But yeah, 296 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I like the fact in that third quarter 297 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals went on eleven play drive seventy seven yard six 298 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: oh eight and that was the one yard Kenyan Drake touchdown. 299 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: And then that's from the Giants countered with a Lewis 300 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: one yarder, but that was pretty much it. But you know, 301 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed early on though in the 302 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: game when it was only six nothing though, because I'm like, 303 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: as as well as they played, you know, moving the ball, 304 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: but then they settled for field goals. I'm like, if 305 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: the Giants scored a touchdown all of a sudden, a 306 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: seven six, you know, and then and then they're playing 307 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: it close to the vest. And I do think teams 308 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: want to keep Kyler Murray on the sidelines. A team 309 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: like the Giants, they don't want to get into shootout. 310 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: You know they went on seventeen twelve last week, they 311 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: scored seven points. They haven't scored scored a lot of 312 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: touchdowns this year, but you know we'll get into the 313 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: red zone because when you play against better teams, you 314 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: better make sure you take care of business in the 315 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: red zone. And you know, special teams was really effective, 316 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: much better than a week ago. Andy Lee and you 317 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: know Christian Kirk and just the coverage units. So give 318 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: those guys credit. And Mike Nugent, I mean he did 319 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: his job. All three phases had a hand in Sunday's contest. 320 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: And you look at the defense overall, they set season 321 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: bests in points, total net yards, first downs, yards per 322 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: played allowed. Remember the Giants only had fifty eight yards 323 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: in the first half. They ran their first play in 324 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: Cardinals territory, which just over seven minutes to go in 325 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: the third quarter, and that touchdown drive the only touchdown 326 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: drive they had in the game. Following that possession, they 327 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: totaled twenty six yards on seventeen plays. Wow, So Vance 328 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: Joseph certainly dialed it up. And you can say what 329 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: you want about the Giants offense. Not a great offense, 330 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: as far as putting points on the board. But the 331 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: one thing the Giants offense had been able to do 332 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: was on the football. Seven straight games of one hundred 333 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: yards or more. They were held to seventy eight on Sunday. 334 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: To take away the run, make a team one dimensional. 335 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones in the pocket, he gives the ball up 336 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: a lot. Cardinals were able to get two takeaways offensively, 337 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: and of course the one on special teams. But yeah, 338 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: the defense, I think really was able to set the 339 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: tone for the overall outcome of Sunday's game. Yeah, and 340 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: at some point the game, the Cardinals were about forty 341 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: four forty three percent on third down. As the game 342 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: went on, they finished seven or eighteen for thirty nine percent. 343 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 1: The Giants were only three for twelve. But the Cardinals 344 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: ran seventy nine offensive place. The Giants ran forty nine. 345 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: The Cardinals ran the ball forty three times. Just think 346 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: about that. They ran the ball forty three times and 347 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: only had forty nine offensive place. You're able to dictate, 348 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals had been dictated to the last couple 349 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: of weeks. No doubt that it was reversed like the 350 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: Rams dictated. You know what, I mean, so when you 351 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: start looking at that, that's why I like the fact 352 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: that you know, Kyler Murray was under center and you 353 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: got some little deep dive there, And I want you 354 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: to tell us because I think it's important to have 355 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: some content here, contacts, and from that standpoint of, you know, 356 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: there were some things that they did a little bit different, 357 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: even though Kingsbury said kind of downplayed it. And again, 358 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: teams are gonna watch this game, and they're gonna watch 359 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: the last couple of games, and we could see teams 360 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: use that mesh rush. But if you're able to run 361 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: the football and get positive yards in first and second down, 362 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: penalties were down, negative plays were down. So what were 363 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: your thoughts on how Kyla Murray played in this game? 364 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: Where it feels like I feel like he was more confident. 365 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: He made a comment that at the hotel he felt 366 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: really good about the game plan and he was confident 367 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: going into the game on Sunday. Yeah, guys were appar 368 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: only a lot more loose, having a lot more fun. 369 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: There wasn't like this weight hanging on their shoulders. Now 370 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: that might have been that weight from the fan base 371 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: from us wondering, questioning because there were a lot of 372 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: questions about this team, and a lot we spent over 373 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: the past what two weeks, MJ. Most of our shows 374 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday probably partner 375 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, have all basically been centered i'd 376 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: say about eighty five nine about the offense, wondering what's 377 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: going on? There was those five games thirty plus points, 378 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: four hundred plus yards and then three games and you're like, 379 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: what happened? They had fallen off the cliff. But before 380 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: we get to the offense, I do want to remind 381 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: the Bird Gang make sure you update to the latest 382 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: version of the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features 383 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: and all new redesign homescreen experience. Visit asy cardinals dot 384 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: com slash app four more great. I'm glad you mentioned 385 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: it because I know you mentioned it during the show 386 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: and we continue our conversation. 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All right, 402 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: let's continue shift our focus here on this Monday A 403 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: Victory Monday edition of Cardinals cover two presented by Monday, 404 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: Proud Partner of the Arizona Cardinals. To the offense, head 405 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: coach Cliff Kingsbury quote, we didn't adjust much end quote. 406 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: I said it postgame on Cardinal Talk MJ. I'll say 407 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: it again here with you here on Monday. I hear him. 408 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure I believe him. Now do we 409 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: have to define how much of an adjustment? And maybe 410 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 1: we were looking for differences with this offense. We had 411 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: talked so much about what we wanted to see and 412 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: now we're looking for that. Maybe it had been there 413 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: all along, just in smaller doses. I don't know. But 414 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: what we did notice Kyler Murray running the football being 415 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: very effective. He's not gonna like to hear it, but 416 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: he has to run the football in order for this 417 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: offense to be effective here in twenty twenty. So Kyler 418 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: Murray under center. So DeAndre Hopkins move around a lot. 419 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: So what we talked about all week long, MJ. In fact, 420 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: there were some of your keys to the game, but 421 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: we wanted to see and we did see it. Now, 422 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: was it a lot, No, it was a major overhaul, 423 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: It was a tweak, but there were a lot of 424 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: little tweaks that seemed to make a heck of a 425 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: lot of difference. Yeah, okay, So do you you have 426 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: some of the numbers when he was under center? Ron Wolfley, 427 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson, yourself. Everyone has been talking about put Kyler 428 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: Murray under center, specifically on short yardage goal line, and 429 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: we did see Murray lineup under center eleven times. Does 430 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: it sound like a lot, especially when you're running seventy 431 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: nine plays on offense, But there was eleven times, a 432 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: season high. The previous was ten, done both in weeks 433 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: one and week two. Last week he was under center 434 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: only twice, So is that a major change. I don't know, 435 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: because technically, MJ it's part of the playbook. They have 436 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: it in their scheme. We just didn't see it a 437 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: lot last week. But three times he was under center 438 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: when it was first and goal, And I know that 439 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: has become a big thing because when you're in the shotgun, 440 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: you're five seven yards from the line of scrimmage, and 441 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that just doesn't make much sense to me 442 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: when you have to go one, two, three yards, go 443 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: under center, turn hand the ball off and let your 444 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: running back do it or do a bootleg, which we 445 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: also did see from Kyleer Murray a couple of different times. 446 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: We saw him play action, play fake that it was 447 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more creativity, and maybe that was because 448 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: of the Giants defense or the fact that the Cardinals 449 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: were able to play with the lead. They certainly had 450 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: great field position, and all of that was added a 451 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: factor in what Kingsbury was able to call. Perhaps, but 452 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: it certainly was different and better than any of all that. 453 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: It was effective and it worked. I couldn't agree more. 454 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: You know, also, Craig the pistol. Do you remember after 455 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: I watched that Ravens Cowboys game and I talked about 456 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: the pistol where you can still do a lot of things, 457 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: and we did see, you know, running backs together and 458 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: it's a way you can read option. But he also 459 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: stepped up in the pocket us and when he ran, 460 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: he ran not well, he's smart enough to know I'm 461 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: gonna get to the sidelines, and a lot of times 462 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: he got there. So that's that's positive of yards versus 463 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: running around taking the sack or you know, you know, 464 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: throwing the ball out of bounce where it's you know, 465 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: it's okay to punt, but lose it down. But he 466 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: ran up the middle at times where before we know 467 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: in college you can outrun those guys. We watched it 468 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: last year and probably week one. The angles that defensive 469 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: linement and the linebackers can take. I don't care how 470 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: fast he is, they're they're taking angles. They caught him, 471 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: And I like the fact that he did roll out 472 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: a little bit um. He stepped up in a pocket 473 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: and made a quick couple throws, easy throws over the middle, 474 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: and I was wondering, you know what what you know? 475 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: Maybe Larry Fitzgerald was able to see, and of course 476 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: he's never going to tell us. And I thought the 477 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: spacing was better. Maybe Isabella wasn't out there and they 478 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: moved Hopkins around, But they also targeted the middle of 479 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: the field. We haven't seen that so much, and I 480 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: think maybe maybe it's because the bat at balls and 481 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: trying to find, you know, passing lanes and sometimes he 482 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: drifts a little back because maybe he can't see over 483 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: the line. But we know Drew Brees can do that 484 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: in Russell Wilson. So there were little tweaks and that's 485 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: why I said, don't panic. You cannot change who you are. 486 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: This is who you are, and see in the season. 487 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: You want to add stuff in the offseason, but just 488 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: make some tweaks. And I think we got a chance 489 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: to see that, and I show I think the score 490 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: reflected of how motivated they were to get this offense. 491 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: They got. Listen, they don't live in a vacuum. They 492 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: know that, oh there's a beat on Murray in Kingsbury 493 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to figure this out or they're 494 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: not going to work. I mean, it was ridiculous when 495 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: I was hearing last week, well put it this way 496 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: what we had been talking about, and the complaints from 497 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: people who watch, who cover, you know, these conversations are 498 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: happening inside the facility between coaches, between players, So we're 499 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: not saying anything that is new to anyone on the sidelines, 500 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: coaches and players. And yes, Kyler Murray is a lot 501 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: more dynamic. It's it's what sets him apart MJ from 502 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: all the other quarterbacks is his ability to move and 503 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: slide the pocket and extend plays with his legs. He 504 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: ran thirteen times, but there were a couple of instances 505 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: in which he started to run, saw someone open and 506 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: through the ball, whether it was short or to the 507 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: sideline or someone over the middle, And that is something 508 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: that is different because usually when a quarterback starts to 509 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: take off and run, it's head down and you're running. 510 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: He kept his head up and making sure, to his 511 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: own words, he doesn't want to run, but he does, 512 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: and when he does, he is very effective doing it. 513 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: And unless something changes, and it's not going to happen 514 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty. But the next step for Kyler Murray, 515 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: if he just strictly wants to be a pocket patcher. 516 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: That's fine. Quarterbacks adjust as they go throughout their career. 517 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: But right now, in this moment here in year two, 518 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray has to be able to be mobile in 519 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: order for this offense to be in rhythm. Yeah, because 520 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, you know one of our keys was well, 521 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: well make Dan Daniel Jones one dimensional, you know, knowing 522 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: he had a hamstring injury and he wasn't gonna run. 523 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: You know, Kyler Murray, that's who he is. And there's 524 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: gonna be plays where you're gonna shake your head, and 525 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: there's gonna be throws we're gonna shake. I mean, he 526 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: stayed in its, sat in the pocket and through that 527 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: ball where he's going to take a head. But I 528 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: also think, and this is just me and people always 529 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: talk about eyes, I think by moving Hopkins around Craig, 530 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: it allowed him to go through some of his progressions. 531 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: And you noticed there were times that they would have 532 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: a running back on the flat as a safety net. 533 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: Now they didn't get a lot of yards out of it, 534 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: but at least it didn't throw it over someone's head 535 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: or try to run it. You know. It's more like, hey, 536 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: take what they give you. Just check it down. And 537 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, I wish I wasn't crazy about the Christian 538 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: Kirk call. You know, he needs to get a better 539 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: block there, But I thought Kirk probably should have gotten 540 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: the answer. I'll not questioned the effort. When you get 541 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: down there, you gotta sniff it and you gotta get in. 542 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: But I think moving Hopkins around allowed him to kind 543 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: of go through his progressions where one progression improvises always 544 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: on the left side. So again I don't know where 545 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: his eyes were, but I could see he wasn't just 546 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: zeroing and on one guy. And I think that's important, 547 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: and I think he may have mentioned it on the show. 548 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: With seven or eight different guys called footballs, eight different 549 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: receivers had at least one catch. And you've noticed that 550 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: early in the season, when this offense seems to be 551 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: at its best, it means everyone is getting involved. Now, 552 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: you can win with a DeAndre Hopkins getting fourteen catches 553 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: sixteen targets, but when everyone feels like they're a part 554 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: of the action, everyone is smiling, everyone feels good, and 555 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: it just keeps everyone involved. You don't lose someone because 556 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: they don't feel like they're involved, and all of a 557 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: sudden when you need them. They have to kind of 558 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: perk up. Everyone is on their toes when the ball 559 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: is being spread around. Now, Hopkins obviously is going to 560 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: get the bulk of that attention, and he recorded his 561 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: sixth one hundred yard game of the year, first time 562 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: since the Buffalo game in the Hill. Murray. But what 563 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: else did we talk about last week? You brought it 564 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: up early, not only to move Hopkins around, but get 565 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: him involved, target him early in contests. Well, he was 566 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: targeted three times in the first quarter, or as many 567 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: times as he was targeted in the first quarter over 568 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: the last three games combined. In other words, he was 569 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: targeted three times total, and the first fifteen minutes of 570 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: those three games Cardinals all lost. Now I'm not saying 571 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: one one equals two, but it just shows how much 572 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: better not only does Hopkins probably feel, but this offense. 573 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: Look when you get number ten involved early in games 574 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: and not wait till the second quarter or the second half. Yeah, 575 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: if you look at the first half, he was targeted 576 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: six times, five catches for sixty nine yards, and he 577 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: was averaging about fourteen yards of catching at the twenty 578 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: fourty yard or Yeah, and Cliff mentioned today. You know, 579 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: Larry obviously, you know, coming back from COVID and you know, 580 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: said he lost some weight, but he said he looked 581 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: good in practice. Larry Ellen had a couple of catches, 582 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: and I said last night, you know, Larry's about getting 583 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: to the postseason. I think that would be the you know, 584 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: Cherry on the Sunday Now, I'd love to see him 585 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: make a run. You gotta get there first, though, but 586 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: he once again he mentioned and I thought, just having 587 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: Larry on the field, you know, I didn't know Isabella 588 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: was going to be inactive. I figured they were dress 589 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: five and because of Shurefield. But you know, obviously they 590 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: feel like Keishaw Johnson's maybe made strides and different skill 591 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: set than Larry. So I would like to see them 592 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: target Larry a little bit more in the first quarter two. 593 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: Just again, it just brings some energy out there, you know. 594 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: And when Larry gets a first down, man they want 595 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: to run back and get on the ball and so 596 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: you get that hurry up going and I think they 597 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: get momentum at that, you know. So again Larry will 598 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: take to win, but I to see him more involved. 599 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: And I really talked about the backs running, you know, 600 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, we know is a luxury. And besides Kenyan 601 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: Drake of the fact that they lined up and he 602 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: had thirteen runs. So the running backs ran the ball 603 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: thirty times for one hundred and fifty nine yards against 604 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: the league's fourth ranked defense. Again, Bird Gang, don't get 605 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: misled by the Giants record or their offense. This is 606 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: a good defense. It has been a good defense all 607 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: season long. Look no further than what they did to 608 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in Seattle one week ago. Wilson looked confused, 609 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: he was hesitant. Kyler Murray was not confused. He did 610 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: not look hesitant. He stood in the pocket, he looked confident. 611 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: And I think that plays a large factor, and not 612 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: only in how he plays, but also just the game 613 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: plan as overall. But when you talk about him running, 614 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: and this includes the three kneel downs, those are considered 615 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: Russian attempts. So really he had ten rushes for forty 616 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: two yards. And we know the numbers Cardinals are seven 617 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: and one when Murray runs at least ten times, they're 618 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: eight and four when Murray rushes for at least forty 619 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: yards or more. So, regardless of what he thinks, the 620 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: numbers tell a different story. So keep doing what you're doing. 621 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: Don't try to do something you're not, at least not 622 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: the rest of this season. There's three games left to go, 623 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals need more wins. You can't just say, well, you know, 624 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: I can't run or I'm not a runner. It's up 625 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: to Drake and it's up to Edmonds. No, sorry, Kyler Murray, 626 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: you need to run the football. No, And the numbers reflected. 627 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: And I think he's getting smarter when he needs to run. 628 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean last year he would just sit here. I 629 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: think he's picking his spots and if they're gonna give 630 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: him lanes, he's gonna do it. I mean, you know, 631 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: maybe over the last couple of weeks, playing that mesh 632 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: defensive everything inside, they weren't willing to sack him and 633 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: so he didn't have the same lanes. And clearly the 634 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: offensive line wasn't as good in those games as they 635 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 1: were yesterday. Well, let's touch on the offensive line because 636 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: that's kind of gotten lost in the shuffle here, because 637 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: the offense can't do anything unless the offensive line is 638 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: doing their job as far as protecting in an open 639 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: and up rushing lane. Before that, if you're a fan, 640 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, and we appreciate everyone's involvement here 641 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: on the show. But if you like which you here, 642 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: I invite you to also subscribe to Arizona Cardinals Podcasts 643 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: so you can get all of the Arizona Cardinals podcast, 644 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground, the Big Red Raids, the Cardinals Red Seat Report, 645 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: and you can do that by going to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 646 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: Google podcast, Ditcher, and SoundCloud. All of the information is 647 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: on asy cardinals dot com, slash podcasts now. The offensive line, 648 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was sacked once, hit four times, but that 649 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: didn't happen until the second half. His first sack was 650 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: in the second half. Otherwise he basically had the time 651 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: in the pocket. One there was a pocket for him 652 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: to step up into, and then there was a pocket 653 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: allowing Murray to, as you mentioned earlier, go through his raids, 654 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: go through his progressions, look for hopkins, look for fits, 655 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: and then look to the left and find a wide 656 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: open Christian Kirk or Chase Edmonds as the quote unquote 657 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: safety valve. And I don't know if we saw that 658 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: a lot over the past couple of weeks. It was 659 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: basically looking at the first guy and knowing you, I 660 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,479 Speaker 1: got to get rid of it because I'm not gonna 661 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: get another half a second. Yeah, it's usually you look 662 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: at your number one receiver and then you improvise and 663 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: improvising that it's not I mean Donovan mcnabby used to 664 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: pad the ball pad the ball pad the ball. I mean, no, 665 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: it's gotta be a you know, it's almost like your 666 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: head's on a swivel. But you know, again, he's got 667 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: to feel the rush. You can't look at the rush. 668 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: You take your eyes off down the field, your toast 669 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: because now all of a sudden, and Rosen had an 670 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: issue with this, and you know, maybe they didn't have 671 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: the best line and the best coaches at the time, 672 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: but he would duck and then he would look up 673 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: and a guy was there and he would throw it 674 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, there's a ghost there. 675 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: So but yeah, we saw this earlier in the season 676 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: where he'd have a guy on the side as a 677 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 1: safety net and usually as Chase or Kirk. We didn't 678 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: see it during that three game losing stream. So again, 679 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: you're not going to change your offense. You're gonna tweak 680 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: it what works, and it's all going to be based 681 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: on the opponents. It could be different next week against 682 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: the Eagles. They play a four or three defense under 683 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz, so we'll see same like the Giants, but 684 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm just saying they have different players, will be different matchups. 685 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: The offensive line and you look, DJ Humphries once again 686 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: grated out very very well according to Pro Football Focus, 687 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: and I believe if I remember Kylodgard's story up on 688 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: easy Cardinals dot com, Humphries right now has played the 689 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: most snaps of any offensive lineman, any tackle and is 690 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: also the highest rated tackle and that is something certainly 691 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: to be proud of. If you're DJ Humphries and you 692 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: talk about a story of perseverance with a Hassan Reddick, 693 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: you could very well do the same thing with the 694 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: DJ Humphries. Yeah. I'm so happy for Hump because you know, 695 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: he drafted at twenty and you know, they thought it 696 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: was cute to call him knee deep, and up to 697 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: this day, he still takes it personal. But maybe he 698 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: was motivation and he'd be the first to admit he 699 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: was immature, but then you know, went through different coaches. 700 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: But I think Sean Coogler has been great for Hump. 701 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: They believe in him. I think the entire unit does. 702 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: I think it started last year. They're all on the 703 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 1: same page. There's a lot of respect in that room. 704 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: But I'm happy for DJ because he's a perfect age. 705 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,479 Speaker 1: He's really just scratching the surface. And the key is Craig. 706 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: He's staying healthy now, knock on wood. I remember the 707 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: one year he had a concussion, so the kind of 708 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: shut him down the last three games. That was just 709 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: to maybe get him right. But we're not in the 710 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: fact that he's playing every snap. I mean he played 711 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: one hundred percent snaps yesterday. So yeah, it's it's and 712 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: I told you a long time ago, and we had 713 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: this conversation. Until you get one of those guys that 714 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: are is a Pro bowler or All Pro, they're never 715 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: going to get the credit. And there's other guys that 716 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: have graded out just as well. Beacham Murray Cole has 717 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: been up and down, but he's steady as a center. 718 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: And then obviously, you know, Justin Pugh went out there, 719 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: he's been productive. So the unit, until you get one 720 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: of those two guys, it's going to be you know, oh, 721 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: they're in the top ten now running to the football 722 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: they're in the top three or four now. Humphreys was 723 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: one of two offensive linemen to play the entire game. 724 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: The other offensive lineman Justin Murray, which is interesting and 725 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: maybe a whole nother discussion here, but he started the 726 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: game at right guard for j R. Sweezy and then 727 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: played the second half at left guard for Justin pe 728 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: who was injured apparently at some point during the game, 729 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: because it was announced that he was dealing with a 730 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: calf injury. We have no further update here on Monday 731 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: as far as how ugh might be doing. But Justin Murray, 732 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, who was a starting tackle a 733 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: year ago, as forcing his way to become a starting 734 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: guard here in twenty twenty. Now whether that happens or not, 735 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: but it is interesting now that there has been more 736 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: shuffling for an extended period of time, specifically at the 737 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: guard position. This is another you hate to see rags 738 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: of riches, but this guy bounced around. Cardinals claimed him. 739 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: He started twelve games for him, played in fourteen and 740 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if he can play center, but this 741 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: guy can play basically both guard spots. I don't know 742 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: about the feat to play left tackle, but right tackle, 743 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: and if you started to look ahead and you know, 744 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: Beacham's out of one year deal and if they believe 745 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: in Josh Jones is more of a right tackle, you 746 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: have a starting guard where you don't have to use 747 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: a high draft pick. And we know that takes a 748 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: little while to get adjusted to the NFL and the 749 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: blocking and three year hand the dirt. So no that 750 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: that that was, you know, under the radar signing an 751 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: extension they gave to him. And just like Max Williams, 752 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: you know, until you they're not playing, you miss him. 753 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: And I think we missed Max Williams. But those guys 754 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: they gave extensions to. I know that, the Buddha Bakers 755 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: and you know the other guys. You know, um they 756 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: get all the headlines when it comes to extensions, but 757 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: those other guys, they're they're really the belly of your 758 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: football team. The fact that you know, we always looked 759 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: at Earl Watford Swiss army knife, he could snap. But 760 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: Murray Burke, I mean, the fact that he's been active 761 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: and he can plug and play it at a lot 762 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: of different positions. That's a luxury. He had not played 763 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: for the three game four stretch because of a hand injury, 764 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: but since his return he has been on the field 765 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: and they've been moving him around. We'll keep an eye 766 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: and ear out for an update on Justin Pugh because 767 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: that would be an obvious move. If p was unable 768 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: to go this week, then you just plug in Justin Murray. 769 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: Josh Jones did get four snaps at tackle because Calvin 770 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: Beecham was out for a period of time with a 771 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: back injury. He though did return, so once again, when 772 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: you come up with a back injury, we'll keep an 773 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: eye on that this week. And then defensively, Jordan Phillips 774 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: was only on the field for four snaps, reaggravated that 775 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: hamstring injury that put him on IR and he will 776 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: not play this week. According to head coach Cliff Kingsbury 777 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 1: has already been ruled out the Cardinals game against the Eagles. 778 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: Phillips was injured trying to make a tackle on Marcus's 779 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: Golden's return after that strip sack fumble to begin the contest, 780 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: and you could see Phillips right there and he just 781 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: tried to lean to the right to get in the 782 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: way of an offensive player to kind of spring Golden 783 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: free and got tangled up fell down and we did 784 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: not see him again the rest of the game, and 785 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: we're not going to see him this week. Yeah, it's 786 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: it's you know, I to me when you look at 787 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: the d line, considering Corey Peters isn't out there, and 788 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: he's one of your better guys. I mean, he's he's 789 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 1: the reason why the Cardinals game will five year contract. Now. Normally, 790 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to the training staff, by playing sometimes 791 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: you can't further damage. But it looks like he did 792 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: reaggravate it. But he was clear to play. I did see. 793 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: I watched him practice last week. He was in you know, 794 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: doing all the drills during the open portion. It's just 795 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: disappointing because that that position is kind of thin and 796 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: you know you're you're gonna go against some teams are 797 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: gonna try to run the football on you, so hopefully 798 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. But it's never good when you 799 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 1: get back because he missed some time and all of 800 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: a sudden you can't make it past the fourth snap. 801 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: But it's not out on him, it's it just happens. 802 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: And you know those hamstrings and those growing and you 803 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: know calf issues. People ah, tape it up, put a 804 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, tape some aspern on the outside, it's going 805 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: to be better. They linger, and for a guy that size, 806 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 1: it must be a you know, obviously a hamstring where 807 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: you've got to make sure he's he's able to go. 808 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: Kingsbury called it unfortunate that Phillips got reinjured, although it 809 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: should be pointed out he was only on the field 810 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: for those four snaps and the rest of those defensive 811 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: linemen helped held the Giants to just seventy eight yards rushing, So, 812 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: if nothing else, some encouragement as far as what they 813 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: were able to do without their number one guy, and 814 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: then of course without Corey Peters as well. So we'll 815 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 1: see what happens moving forward. Usually get a better idea 816 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: with regard to injuries come Wednesday when the first injury 817 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: report happens. The Cardinals seven and six. They snapped that 818 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: three game losing streak, and yes, it's certainly much better 819 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: Monday on Cardinals cover two. Now, is this a good 820 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:08,439 Speaker 1: thing that we haven't talked about the secondary? No? I mean, hey, 821 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: they were targeting Drake Kirkpatrick. He listened to Wolf and 822 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: passed they were targeting he was outstanding Patrick Peterson. Did 823 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: they even try to go to his way at all. 824 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: I know the one pass. Yeah, I didn't see much 825 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: at twenty one, didn't hear his name much. But when 826 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: you look at Pro Football Focus, Peterson allowed only two 827 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: catches for thirty one yards on four targets. So he 828 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: did his job. And Evan Ingram to tied end, who 829 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: was the Giants leading receiver, he was held in check. 830 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: He was basically a non factor all game on Sunday. Yeah, 831 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, again, Daniel Jones has been 832 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: there with him. He's a high draft picks. He's there guy. 833 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he opens things up on the outside. He 834 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: also has asked to block a little bit. But I 835 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: thought Jones would target him just you know, gonna kind 836 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: of get into the rhythm gets, you know, try to 837 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: get some first downs out. And so yeah, that's something 838 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about this at the covering the tight 839 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: end this year. Funny to say after thirteen games it's improved. Absolutely, 840 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: the entire defense has improved, That's true, and that's the 841 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: umbrella to where you're more of a team than having 842 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, guys playing out of position. Certainly a lot 843 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: to like in Sunday's game, and Will continue to kind 844 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: of break down what happened on Sunday and where this 845 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: team now can build upon it to further cement its 846 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: place in the NFC playoff picture. Right now, the team 847 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: a seven seed, but still they're hanging on by a thread, 848 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: if you will, because you've got to be able to 849 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 1: continue to win these ball games and starts next week 850 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: against the Eagles. You know, I was looking at their 851 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: receiving Shepherd three catches thirty five yards, Slayton three catches, 852 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: thirty one yards, Ingram two catches eighteen yards. I mean, 853 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: Hopkins had one hundred and thirty six yards. They had 854 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five on thirteen receptions. That give 855 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: the secondary, but give the guys up front when you 856 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: get eight sacks, it's a team game. They were getting pressure, 857 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: they did a great job stop in the run, and 858 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: those guys are plastering their coverage. We didn't see it 859 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: a lot of separation from the Giants receivers, and I 860 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,919 Speaker 1: thought the Cardinals tackling was much better than the previous game. 861 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: Complimentary football, and I think we saw that work offense, 862 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: defense and special teams very well on Sunday. And on 863 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: that note, we will put a little on this edition 864 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two presented by Honday, proud partner of 865 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Always good on a victory, Monday just 866 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: makes the rest of the week not much better. Special 867 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: thanks as always to our executive producer, Jim I'm a 868 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: hundre for Mike Jarecki. I'm Craig Rayel Loup. We'll talk 869 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.