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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up Straight Fire, baym It's me Jason McIntyre,

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Speaker 2: Straight Bowyer for Wednesday, February the eighteenth, and we got

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Speaker 2: a great podcast today.

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Speaker 3: Jovon Booja NBA Reporter mostly covers the Lakers, also covers

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Speaker 3: the league. We break down the second half of the season.

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Speaker 3: Do the Spurs have what it takes to take down

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Speaker 3: the overrated thunder? I tossed it overrated, he did not

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Speaker 3: my nixtape coming out of the East. Are the Piston's

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Speaker 3: a real threat? And then of course we do a

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Speaker 3: little bit hahuh a lot on the Lakers. I'm I

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Speaker 3: was gobsmacked, what an underrated word at his theory that

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Speaker 3: the Lakers can get Yiannis without giving up Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 3: If they pull that off, it would be high, a

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Speaker 3: bigger high then Luca to the Lakers from Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Now, what will be everything? Is?

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Speaker 3: Is Yannis going to be the bad guy and say, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm not signing in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm signing with the Lakers. Send me the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: You know? Now?

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Speaker 2: Does is he willing to go there? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He seems like a little bit of I don't want

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Speaker 3: to say it was that's that's he's six eleven and

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Speaker 3: jack to why would I say that? But it feels

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Speaker 3: like he doesn't want to be the bad guy. Potential

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Speaker 3: topics for tomorrow before we get to Yovann Bua. This

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Speaker 3: Eileen Goose story at the Olympics. I hope I'm saying

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Speaker 3: her name right.

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Speaker 4: She is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she's an incredible olympian who you know, went

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Speaker 3: to college in the US. I believe Stanford super Smart

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Speaker 3: should have been participating in the Olympics for US, but

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Speaker 3: China came to her and was like, hey, can we

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Speaker 3: buy you? You are bank. She is, I mean, ridiculously

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Speaker 3: good looking. She has a ton of followers, and she

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Speaker 3: wins all the medals, so China pays her. She's dominating

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Speaker 3: and now she's being termed to sell out in a turncode. Now.

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Speaker 2: I love the story.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about it later, but first let's get to

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Speaker 3: my main man, Yovann Buha.

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Speaker 1: You know a guy Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 2: I know what sports fans wants, but for everything he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: He knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 5: Let's just say, I know a guy who knows a

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Speaker 5: guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome back to straight fire.

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Speaker 3: Yovann Bouja, mister Los Angeles Lakers as plugged in as anybody.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure his All Star weekend was fun, chasing around

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Speaker 3: a bunch of Lakers stories as they seem to be

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Speaker 3: the number one team heading into the second half of

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Speaker 3: the season. Yovann, how you doing.

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm doing well.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was All Star break fun for you.

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Speaker 2: Were you at the parties hobnobbing with the players?

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Speaker 5: No, I actually I despite it being in LA, I

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Speaker 5: was not as involved as I expected to be. I mean,

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Speaker 5: to spend with my wife. You know, so you gotta

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Speaker 5: gotta make a smart business decision. So I did that

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Speaker 5: on Saturday, and you know that I bought myself some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well done. That's a smart move. This is a

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Speaker 2: good man. We understand where you're coming from. So let's

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Speaker 2: let's just dive into it. I'm just curious.

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Speaker 3: I didn't watch a second of the dunk contest or

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Speaker 3: any of that stuff. Did Did you consume any of that,

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Speaker 3: and uh, are you as pearl clutching as the other

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Speaker 3: media members I see on social media about.

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Speaker 5: Oh, the Dunk Contest is dead all this nonsense. Well,

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Speaker 5: I think it's dead, but I think it's been dead

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Speaker 5: for almost a decade, you know. I feel like we

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Speaker 5: we rehashed the same storylines every year with the All

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Speaker 4: Every year it's like, oh, All Star.

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Speaker 5: Weekend's dead, and it's like we've been saying the same

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Speaker 5: We saw that with the crowds who were there Friday

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Speaker 5: I thought it was the best All Star game since

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Speaker 5: at least twenty twenty, which was when they first introduced

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Speaker 5: that elam ending. But you basically turn it into four

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Speaker 5: different pickup games and having the guys playing these twelve

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Speaker 5: minute shifts, it really brought out the competitive juices.

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Speaker 4: So I thought we saw some great basketball.

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Speaker 5: Kawhi had one of the best stretches we've ever seen

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Speaker 5: in also game, we scored thirty one points in twelve minutes,

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Speaker 4: Thought it was really competitive.

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Speaker 5: The last game was a bust, But it's because the

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Speaker 5: old guys had played three straight games. Yeah, what did

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Speaker 5: to a pickup run? Why did they not split the format?

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Speaker 5: So they got to break the start because they didn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's move on to more pressing matters.

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Speaker 3: Second half of the season starts on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: What do we have like thirty.

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Speaker 3: Ish games left overall big picture, I've got the Spurs

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Speaker 3: in the Knicks in the finals.

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Speaker 4: Would you agree to say I like it? I like it.

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Speaker 5: I still have okay See and the Knicks. That that

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Speaker 5: far less confident right now in that pick than I

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Speaker 5: did October first, July first one whenever side.

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Speaker 4: On both sides, honest, Aliday.

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Speaker 5: To your point, I mean, san Antonio is four and

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Speaker 5: I think full strength Denver is the one that's looming

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Speaker 5: the West is going to be one of those three teams.

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Speaker 5: Okay see Denver, san Antonio. I still will give Okay

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Speaker 5: for air, they have the best depth, and I mean

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Speaker 5: haven't been the same team, but I think they'll be

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Speaker 5: fine come playoff time. In the East, still, we got

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Speaker 5: to look at what Detroit's doing. Boston might be getting

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Speaker 5: Boston's the biggest wild card of Like, I don't think

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Speaker 3: Let's pause, hold on, hold on, you think he's definitely

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Speaker 4: I think he's coming back.

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Speaker 2: It seems doesn't that seem forced? I mean it would

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Speaker 5: Look, I tore my achilles a couple of years ago

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Speaker 4: So you are playing coming back? Yeah, a little bit,

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Speaker 5: I saw I didn't get the media invite I got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah I would.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's early, but he wants to come back,

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Speaker 2: Well, I wonder if that's him or the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: So let me just quickly go to the West before

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Speaker 3: On the Spurs by three, followed by the Nuggets at third,

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Speaker 3: and then Rockets for Lakers five. This would be terrible

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Speaker 3: for my Spurs prediction. If they have to face the

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Speaker 2: I think that will obviously because that's just too tall.

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Speaker 3: In order for US young Spurs team beat the Nuggets

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Speaker 3: and the thunder that they're not doing that.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 4: But look, San Antonio, like the thing working against.

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Speaker 5: Them right now is they've not won a playoff series

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Speaker 5: together yet, right Like, this is a Webbys yet to

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Speaker 5: play in the playoffs. Stefan Castle, Dylan Harper, like Daron

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Speaker 5: Fox is like the Elder Statesman, having played in one

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Speaker 5: they just have a relatively inexperienced group both together and individually.

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Speaker 5: And how these things go if you think about go

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Speaker 5: The one season they make the second round, they lose

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Speaker 5: first round to the Clippers.

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Speaker 4: Slippers. Then the next.

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Speaker 5: Season is the big jump. They win sixty seven games

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the trade deadline came and went, not a

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Speaker 3: Surprisingly was like, we're done tanking.

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Speaker 2: We're going to try to go for it.

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Speaker 3: And then of course they sit Jared Jackson, Oh he

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Speaker 2: But let's go to the Lakers. Obviously, you know them

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Speaker 3: There wasn't a lot they could do with the deadline,

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're the favorites, And it really comes

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Speaker 5: Draft night yeah guid in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: So you know, they could draft on behalf of Milwaukee.

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Speaker 4: But but they could do that, or.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they're probably have a long rebuild here of

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Speaker 5: If any of these other teams are willing to put

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Speaker 3: But pause, pause, hold on, give me a blue chip name.

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Speaker 3: I've floated Paolo Ba and Carol at Orlando.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's a great that's a great example

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Speaker 5: pat and like let this continue to build, or do

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Speaker 5: I'm Milwaukee, like you have to strongly consider that, you

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to go that direction.

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Speaker 5: I'm just stating, like, I think there are still teams

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Speaker 2: Well, wait, what is New York offering towns?

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Speaker 5: I think it would have to be the offerers are

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Speaker 4: The two to four teams.

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Speaker 5: The honest is open to going to Okay, if both

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Speaker 4: But we're talking about a couple.

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Speaker 2: So you said a lot.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with the last thing you said, and

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Speaker 3: nobody seems to be talking about this.

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Speaker 2: What if Fiannas straight up says I don't want to

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Speaker 3: Want to go to the Lakers. What if he just

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Speaker 3: says I want to play with Luca. Luca's not like

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Speaker 3: the Lakers guy. He wasn't drafted there. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to go be second bing Inna and of Steph Curry

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Speaker 2: Who's Jalen runs his team and all this stuff. I

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Speaker 3: First of all, do you see him saying that and

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Speaker 3: be isn't he well within his right to say, like

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Speaker 2: I'm not signing anywhere unless I go to Lakers.

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Speaker 5: He's well within his right to say whatever he wants,

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Speaker 5: and he certainly has or you know, said stuff behind

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Speaker 5: the Luca trade and the immediate aftermath of that. Giannis

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Speaker 5: I'm paraphrasing here, like I believe all the big European

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Speaker 5: to see Jokic go to the Knicks and play in

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Speaker 5: even going back to back then, Giannis was talking about

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Speaker 5: on your record, I guess sort of record being attached

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Speaker 5: to was go back and you know, go back to

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Speaker 4: They couldn't pull it off.

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Speaker 5: Now he was attached to Miami in Minnesota during this

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Speaker 5: trade cycle. I don't know how real any of that

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Speaker 5: I think if we're looking at least at those three teams,

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Speaker 5: it's two big markets in New York and Miami, and

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Speaker 5: whether that's the Lakers or New York and Miami. We'll

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Speaker 5: going to Portland, for example, Like, no, Hell, they have

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Speaker 5: Milwaukee's picks, so Portland can make a competitive offer of

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Speaker 5: just I don't think those are the types of markets

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the other thing, you went and talked all

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Speaker 3: Austin Reeves. It sounds like you think there's a world

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Speaker 5: Yes, so my understanding of the Lakers plan is that

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Speaker 5: without giving up Austin Reeves because Austin Reeves is going

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Speaker 5: the one way Austin could be included in a Yannis

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Speaker 5: I don't think signing trading and going to a rebuilding

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Speaker 4: So it's certainly possible. But Austin wants to win.

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Speaker 5: He's already twenty seven and I you know, about to

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Speaker 3: That would get I think that would royally piss the

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Speaker 3: So talk through that one more time. So a trade exception.

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Speaker 3: This would have to be done draft night, right when

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Speaker 4: So it depends on the structure of the trade.

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Speaker 5: But yes, the Lakers don't have access to their three

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Speaker 5: there of like when they actually have all three. Then

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Speaker 5: once their pick is up, obviously that they have to

440
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Speaker 5: select someone. And then it just depends are they selecting

441
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 5: for themselves or for someone else?

442
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,360
Speaker 2: Right, So that's work.

443
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 3: I think people would be like, how on earth does

444
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Speaker 3: this work? Salaries have to match in NBA trades, But

445
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:02,399
Speaker 3: I guess we.

446
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 4: Just have to match in the off season.

447
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 2: It does not.

448
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 5: No, you have more flexibility in the off season, so

449
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 5: you can take on more. Now, you at some like,

450
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 5: at some point you have to fix your books and

451
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 5: you can't just take on like all these players and

452
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,920
Speaker 5: you know, just go into the season way over the cap,

453
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 5: like they're going to have to then rearrange some things,

454
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 5: but it doesn't have to exact, like the same cap

455
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 5: rules in the season, don't.

456
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 4: You know, apply in the off season, so you have

457
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 4: more flexibility there.

458
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 2: Wow, that is crazy.

459
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 3: So you're so the Lakers essentially with all these free

460
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 3: agents that they have, I'll rattle them off for you quickly.

461
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 3: So Lebron obviously fifty two mil, Ruy Hachimora eighteen, Knard eleven,

462
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 3: Kleeber eleven.

463
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 2: That right there is twenty two to forty we're looking

464
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Speaker 2: at it.

465
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: That's like ninety five million dollars, and that Jackson Ayes

466
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 3: plus three let's just say.

467
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 2: One hundred million dollars conservatively. Is that about accurate?

468
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 5: So right right now, if all those guys are off,

469
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 5: they're projected to have about fifty one million dollars in

470
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 5: cap space. But that's with two smaller scale guys. But

471
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 5: we will have a say and how much cap stays

472
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 5: they have. Are DeAndre Ayton and Marcus Smart, so they

473
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 5: both have player options for next year. DeAndre eight and

474
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 5: eight million, Marcus Smart five million. I'm almost certain Marcus

475
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 5: Smart's going to decline his player option if he right

476
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 5: now was a free agent, he'd easily get over five

477
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 5: million dollars, So I think so, yeah, with the season

478
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 5: he's had, like, I think he's arguably been the Lakers

479
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 5: fourth best player in totality of the season. I mean

480
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 5: it's between him, Rui, and DeAndre, but DeAndre has not

481
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 5: been playing well lately.

482
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 4: Ruey has been playing.

483
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 5: Better recently but was kind of up and down earlier

484
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 5: in the season. So I think Marcus, you could make

485
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 5: a case, has been their fourth best player. But I

486
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 5: think I think a lot more of a market outside

487
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 5: of the five million.

488
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 4: I don't know how much more, Like you.

489
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 5: Know, I think he's around maybe a ten to twelve

490
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 5: million dollars player. The big thing is is age and

491
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 5: health with him. But if those guys opt out, then

492
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 5: that number balloons even more. Right, So you're talking about

493
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 5: an extra thirteen million, So that's where LA can potentially

494
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 5: get to sixty four.

495
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 4: But then you also if you add.

496
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 5: In the pick and who they draft, then that drops

497
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 5: to you know, buy another three million. So they have

498
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 5: somewhere between like fifty to sixty million to play with

499
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 5: depending on what they do. But in this scenario, you

500
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 5: are letting go of Lebron, James, you are not keeping Lebron,

501
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 5: and you're also letting go of Rui, who they've been

502
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 5: very fond of. So there's a lot of moving parts

503
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 5: with this where it's just it's tough to project how

504
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 5: it's going to play out. But assuming they'd let those

505
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 5: guys walk to get Giannis, that that's the pathway for

506
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 5: this stuff.

507
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: It's a really tough sell to the Bucks fan base

508
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 3: that the ownership says, Hey, we just traded one of

509
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: the best player in our franchise history, Storry to lue Elsinder,

510
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 3: and we got three picks and cap space.

511
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Speaker 2: That would that would be That's.

512
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Speaker 5: Why I don't I don't think it's most likely scenario. Again,

513
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 5: I want to make that clear. I think you know

514
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 5: Miami can offer four first round picks this summer. So

515
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 5: maybe Miami comes in with we'll give you Hero, we'll

516
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 5: give you Hakes, we'll give you khalil Ware, We'll I

517
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 5: don't want to can someone beat that?

518
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 4: But do you want and why.

519
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 3: Would Yannis want to go to Miami when they're gutted

520
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: and it's Giannis and Bam aute bio and a poop

521
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 3: poop platter of guys.

522
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 5: Oh, that's fair why they're not to find a clear

523
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 5: It's tough to find a clear fit, I think in

524
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Speaker 5: terms of like making the salary work and also him

525
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 5: remaining competitive and having like a better chance than I

526
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 5: guess New York is maybe the closest I would say,

527
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 5: But you still have to give up probably a couple

528
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 5: of starters to realistically at him.

529
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: So can the Lakers find another draft pick? Is I

530
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 3: guess there's no real market for Laavia eighton Vanderbilt.

531
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Speaker 2: Nobody's giving up a first for any of those guys, right.

532
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 5: No, I think that, you know, if there was a

533
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 5: situation where they were going to sign and trade at

534
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 5: Austin maybe somewhere else, I think they could get some

535
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 5: draft capital for him. If there's a team that really

536
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 5: loves Ruby and you can sign him, like you know,

537
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 5: maybe you could give him a little bit more money

538
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 5: than what that team can offer.

539
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 4: Maybe they attached something for that.

540
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 5: But like, realistically, I think it's gonna be tough for

541
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 5: them to add a pick like it probably would have

542
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 5: had to have happened at this deadline, and the fact

543
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 5: that they didn't do that, you know that they're probably

544
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 5: stuck at at the.

545
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 4: Three all right, we can wrap up with Lebron. Oops,

546
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 4: like they got four swaps but yeah, well.

547
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: Oh the swaps too. People love a good swap. Uh,

548
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 2: we can wrap up with Lebron. So it's funny.

549
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 3: We've the guy's been on top of the league forever

550
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 3: and now we're talking about him as you know, cap space.

551
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 3: He's still averaging twenty two, seven and five the defense.

552
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: The defensive numbers are not good. We had Rick Buker

553
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 3: on last week and it was essentially so he's staying

554
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: with the Lakers on the cheap, or he's going to

555
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 3: Cleveland on the cheap, or he's retiring. Is there a

556
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: door number four that I'm not aware of? Like it's

557
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: somebody gonna pay Lebron if.

558
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 5: You just look if you look at the teams that

559
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 5: are projected to have cap space, again, I think the

560
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 5: four that are projected to have forty plus million are

561
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 5: the Lakers, the Clippers, the Nets.

562
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: And the Bulls.

563
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 5: I don't see him going to any of those other

564
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 5: three teams. So it really is I think going to

565
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 5: likely be the Lakers either some sort of discount. I

566
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 5: don't I don't see him taking a minimum contract. But

567
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 5: is it fifteen million, is it twenty million, is it

568
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 5: somewhere in there? But then remember like they got the

569
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 5: fifty to sixty million in cap space if you're resigning Lebron. Now,

570
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 5: even if it's not a much lower number, that does

571
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 5: eat into your overall space and spending power. Then Cleveland

572
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 5: will likely only have a minimum unless they move off

573
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 5: a lot of money to create, you know, an exception

574
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 5: because they're right there at the second apron. And then

575
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 5: you know, maybe I don't know, is there another team

576
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 5: that enters the mix that he wants to go to,

577
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 5: Like in the past, he's been linked to Golden State, Dallas, New.

578
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 4: York, the New York one.

579
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 5: I don't really see, just because of the James Dolan

580
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 5: stuff and I don't think he's I'm a big fan

581
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 5: of him through the years. But you know, maybe there's

582
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 5: like a wild card team that comes in. But realistically,

583
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 5: I think it's going to be Lakers. Another team that's

584
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 5: likely the Calves or retirement. But but either way, I

585
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 5: think he's going to have to take a pretty big

586
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 5: pay cut. It's not even due to like his production

587
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 5: or his plates really just the financial options that are

588
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 5: out there. Like he's still he just made the All

589
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 5: Star team. He's still producing as an All Star level guy.

590
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 5: It's just based on right now the Lakers plans and

591
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 5: then what else is out there. Let's shew to go

592
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 5: to Brooklyn and just like make the most money and

593
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 5: be on a way. It's not going to happen, so realistically,

594
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 5: looking at the options, like there's almost no option that

595
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 5: gives him what he's worth financially and competing, So he's

596
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 5: got a kind of pick between the two.

597
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 4: I think he'll pick on the competing side.

598
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: It's sad.

599
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: We just saw Chris Paul kind of go out with

600
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: the whimper, the ugly stuff with the Clippers.

601
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: I don't even know.

602
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: What team he ended on at the end, and then

603
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: he was just like, yeah, I'm retired to Rock come on,

604
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 3: And that was ugly. Now, look, Ron's producing way better

605
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: than Chris Paul, who's had a ton of injuries.

606
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 4: He's not gonna go out like that.

607
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: He No, Hell, it feels kind of sucky, but whatever.

608
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 3: I want to go back real quick to one other thing.

609
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: So let's say the Lakers strike out on Giannis. I

610
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: don't know where he goes. Let's just say what. It

611
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: doesn't really matter what's planned B for the Lakers? Can

612
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 3: they refit this roster similar to what Luca had in Dallas?

613
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 3: Is there is there a PGA Washington role to be

614
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: had for a Ruie I like Austin Reeves and the

615
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving, you know Batman, Robin Roll. And then it

616
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: becomes like can you find rim protectors? Nick Claxton, you

617
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 3: know Walker Kessler? Well, I don't know what's going on Utah.

618
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: Walker Kesler sounds like he wants a lot of money.

619
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: I don't know.

620
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: Is he good enough? Can he be Derek Lively and

621
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: Daniel Gafford? Can they get Daniel Gafford? I think he's

622
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: a free agent? Maybe not, I don't know, but it

623
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: feels like, okay, So Plan ASI honis Plan B is.

624
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

625
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 5: Play be is less clear. They're going to go after

626
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,239
Speaker 5: the top restricted free agents. If you look at this

627
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 5: free agent class, it's a pretty underwhelming class. Like you

628
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 5: can make a case that Lebron is the best player

629
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 5: in free agency just.

630
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: Full stop, which is not a site at Lebron.

631
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 5: It's just like if you look at all the big

632
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 5: money guys who are entering free agency are it's like,

633
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 5: you know, Demarta Rosen or something like older All Stars

634
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 5: or guys who like aren't really going to give the

635
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 5: Lakers what they need. So I think the best available

636
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 5: young players are the restricted for agents, and that would

637
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 5: be guys like Walker Kessler, Peyton Watson, Tari Easton. So

638
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 5: I think those are going to be some of the

639
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 5: guys that they look at Walker as the long term

640
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 5: center solution, and then Peyton, Watson and Tari Easton as

641
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 5: like those three and D wings that could start and

642
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 5: play next to Luca, Austin can play next to a

643
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 5: Ruie et cetera. Now, in my opinion, I think they

644
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 5: need three two starters assuming Lebron is not back. If

645
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: Lebron's back, then it's two starters. But I think they

646
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 5: need a long term center and then they need two

647
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 5: three and D type wings around Luca and Austin similar

648
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 5: to what Dallas had with PJ. Washington and Derek Jones Junior.

649
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 5: Now how they get that with the fifty to sixty million,

650
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be tough because restricted free agency

651
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: typically teams keep their players and then if they're in

652
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 5: a tough financial spot, they'll just flip that player or

653
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 5: flip someone else down the road. But you rarely see

654
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 5: high level restricted free agents switch teams, so that that's

655
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 5: one thing. Then you look at the unrestricted for agents

656
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Speaker 5: and it's like Mitchell Robinson might be the guy who

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Speaker 5: makes the most.

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Speaker 4: Sense, and like, I like Mitchell Robinson.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like him, but I think he's either like

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Speaker 5: a low minute starter or like a high minutes backup,

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Speaker 5: and wait, hold.

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Speaker 3: On, Walker Kessler is gonna want a shit ton of money.

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Speaker 3: You could get Mitchell Robinson for half the price, right

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Speaker 3: may I.

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Speaker 5: Think it'll be more than half, but maybe, you know,

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Speaker 5: maybe sixty to seventy percent of the price.

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Speaker 4: And and now I like it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he has the injury history and New York

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Speaker 5: has been cautious with his minutes the last few years.

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Speaker 5: You've seen, like you know, dunks aren't everything for a

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Speaker 5: big man, but but sometimes dunks are are more of

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Speaker 5: an indicator of like how athletic a big man is, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: And you look at like his dunks four years ago

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Speaker 5: to his dunks the last three years, it's like a

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Speaker 5: huge drop off these last three years, and just he's

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Speaker 5: sort of shifted role. So I think he's he's kind

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Speaker 5: of like a Steven Adams to me, and they have

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Speaker 5: a lot of similarities in their games, but like high

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Speaker 5: man it backup, you know, high mine backup who can

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Speaker 5: play in some double big lineups and and can even

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Speaker 5: close games for you. But you probably want a starter

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Speaker 5: in front of them who's playing, like, you know, thirty

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Speaker 5: plus minutes and then they play a little bit together.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know if he's the answer for them.

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Speaker 5: Then outside of that, it's just a really underwhelming rest

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Speaker 5: of the free agent class. So one other thing the

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Speaker 5: Lakers can do, and I'll give you an example, is

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Speaker 5: they can't also acquire players into their cap space, similar

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Speaker 5: to the honest plan, but on a smaller scale, with

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Speaker 5: like O their starters. So, for example, Okay is coming

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Speaker 5: up on a big financial decision where they're probably gonna

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Speaker 5: have to pick between Isaiah Hartenstein and Lou Dort and

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Speaker 5: probably have to get rid of one of those guys

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Speaker 5: realistically unless they can move some other money around. So

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Speaker 5: if you're the Lakers, you can make a competitive offer

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Speaker 5: to go get a lou Dort or a Hertenstein and

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Speaker 5: plug that guy in as a starter. Now there's the

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Speaker 5: question of is Okay s you gonna want to help

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Speaker 5: the Lakers out and l send them one of their

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Speaker 5: starters when you know you're going to be facing off

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Speaker 5: with Luca for the next five plus years. Probably not so.

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Speaker 5: I think the Lakers would have to sweeten the offer

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Speaker 5: to make it appealing. But that's an example of like

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Speaker 5: with the new second Apron and in the new CBA,

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Speaker 5: it's basically a hard cap and teams are gonna have

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Speaker 5: to get rid of good player. So the Lakers are hoping, hey,

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Speaker 5: like plan A, You're honest, plan be super restricted for agent,

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Speaker 5: Plans C, steal some of these guys that become available,

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Speaker 5: and there might even be some starting level guys that

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Speaker 5: become available. I think plant C is the most realistic,

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Speaker 5: but planed SE is also the lowest up side. And

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Speaker 5: so for me, I look at the Lakers situation, I

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Speaker 5: think they're probably another year away from really building this roster.

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Speaker 5: I no, fans don't want to hear that, but I

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Speaker 5: think it's probably going to be like this summer making

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Speaker 5: some moves, next trade of the line making a move,

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Speaker 5: and then like twenty twenty seven offseason is when.

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Speaker 4: They really build it.

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Speaker 5: And unfortunately, like they have Luke about to be in

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Speaker 5: his prime Austin about to be in his prime, and

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Speaker 5: I don't know how great next year's roster is actually

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Speaker 5: going to be.

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Speaker 2: I just want to go back to Peyton Watson.

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Speaker 3: So the only reason I care about him is because

729
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Speaker 3: I got a buddy who's a booster at UCLA, and

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Speaker 3: you know, he raved about Peyton Watson when he came in,

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Speaker 3: and then he kind of underwhelmed and then still went

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Speaker 3: to the NBA and did like absolutely nothing. For the

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Speaker 3: first two years, you kept hearing about how always so athletic,

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Speaker 3: and so finally in year four he starts to pop.

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Speaker 3: But is it because he's a free agent and he's

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Speaker 3: got you know, the year that you need to make money, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you got to show out, And now he's hitting forty

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Speaker 3: one percent for three?

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Speaker 2: Is this just a one?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: Do you really think he's a thirty million dollar a

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Speaker 3: year guy. He's only twenty three, twenty four in September.

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Speaker 5: It's more than I'd want to pay him. But I

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Speaker 5: also I think about the situation that the Lakers are

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Speaker 5: in and maybe some other teams depending on who else

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Speaker 5: is interested in him.

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Speaker 4: And it's like you.

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Speaker 5: Only get so many shots at acquiring difference making talent,

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Speaker 5: and the alternative for the Lakers is like if they

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Speaker 5: strike out on all the big free agents and they

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Speaker 5: don't acquire that difference maker via trade, you're kind of

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Speaker 5: running it back with the same group. And like, if

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Speaker 5: you're asking me to, would I rather have Peyton Watson

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Speaker 5: at thirty million or like Ruy hot Schamoora at eighteen,

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Speaker 5: I think I'd rather have Peyton Watson as eight millionaire

756
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Speaker 5: at least with the upside of like what he can. Like,

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Speaker 5: I think Ruy is who he is. He's a solid player,

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Speaker 5: but he's relatively limited defensively. He's not a good rebounder,

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Speaker 5: and I think he's more of like a high level

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Speaker 5: bench guy.

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Speaker 4: Peyton Watson has popped this year.

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Speaker 5: I think he's been Denverse fourth best player out to

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Speaker 5: your point, it's a contract year and guys have been

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Speaker 5: in and out right, like Aaron Gordon's been injured, Cam Johnson,

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Speaker 5: Christian Brown, Jokic was out, so like he's had more

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Speaker 5: usage to assume and you take on a bigger role,

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Speaker 5: But there's questions if if he could do that right, Like,

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Speaker 5: we view him right now far different than we viewed

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Speaker 5: him even as recently as like the playoffs, what Denver

770
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Speaker 5: desperately needed someone to do something like.

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Speaker 4: Molone wouldn't play that. Yeah, Malone wouldn't play him.

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Speaker 5: So I think at this point he with the age

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Speaker 5: and the pedigree that he has, he is someone who's

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Speaker 5: going to be one of the top guys this summer

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Speaker 5: and for the Lakers. I think twenty five to twenty

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Speaker 5: seven is probably a more appropriate range for him. But

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Speaker 5: the thing is, you're also competing, Like I think, to

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Speaker 5: steal a restrict your phrasing, you probably have to overpay

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Speaker 5: a little bit to be like twenty five million dollar guy.

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Speaker 5: You probably have to pay thirty million to make the

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Speaker 5: team think twice. But that all said, I think Denver's

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Speaker 5: in Denver's and we'll see how they handle the situation.

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Speaker 5: I would prioritize him, and I'm trying to get off

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Speaker 5: Cam Johnson.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the one.

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Speaker 5: Where they made a bit of a mistake with his

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Speaker 5: with trading the first in MPJ for him. He is

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Speaker 5: not I mean, he's I Mej's just been straight up

789
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Speaker 5: better than him this year. He's an all start candidate

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Speaker 5: in the East. Like, I think that's the move that

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Speaker 5: if you can flip Cam Johnson somewhere else, they can

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Speaker 5: keep Peyton Watson. But I do not let Peyton Watson

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Speaker 5: walk if I'm Denver, like he's too talented.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so let me let me just quickly see what

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Speaker 2: Cam Johnson's making.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one twenty three. Okay, So Tarry Eason is the

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Speaker 3: guy I really like. Yeah, that's not terrible. I loved

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Speaker 3: him coming out of LSU. He's tough, he's a he's

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Speaker 3: hitting forty six percent from threes. I know that again

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Speaker 3: similar to Peyton Watson is as a contract year, but

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Speaker 3: it's a very small sample size. I think he has

802
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Speaker 3: an injury issue as well. He can't stay healthy, but

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Speaker 3: can Does that mean you could get him for say

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Speaker 3: fifteen to eighteen mil, like I would take Tari Easan

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Speaker 3: in the PJ Washington over ruly HATCHI mora same.

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Speaker 5: I think he's going to be probably in like closer

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Speaker 5: to twenty to low twenties ranged, but I think he's

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Speaker 5: he's actually the most like if you're I would say

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Speaker 5: the top three restricted free agents in some order are

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Speaker 5: Walker Kessler, Peyton Watson, Tari Easton. I think in terms

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Speaker 5: of how realistic they are to get I would rank

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Speaker 5: them Eason.

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Speaker 4: Watson, Kessler.

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Speaker 5: So Easton to me is the one that when you

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Speaker 5: think about the full strength, you know, fully healthy Houston rockets.

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Speaker 5: The starting group is probably Shngoon, Jabari Smith, Kadi, Aman Thompson,

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Speaker 5: and Fred Van Vliet. And then you have like Reed Shepherd,

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Speaker 5: Steven Adams, Eason and some other guys off the bench.

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Speaker 5: But because of that, like Watson is factoring in, is

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Speaker 5: probably a long term starter in Denver, Utah turned down

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Speaker 5: multiple trade offers for Walker Kessler, h and you know,

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Speaker 5: is prioritizing keeping him having that big front court. So

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Speaker 5: I look at Houston as like, if Houston has to

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Speaker 5: make a concession somewhere, they have several guys like the

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00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 5: extensions are kicking in, They're gonna have to pay Aman Thompson.

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Speaker 5: They have their starters in like top seven ish kind

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Speaker 5: of it locked down. I don't know that Tarry Easton

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Speaker 5: necessarily fits into that, especially if he's making eighteen twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty two million, whatever that number ends up being. So

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Speaker 5: I look at Easton as a guy that is somewhat

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Speaker 5: realistic at least they compare someone to Watson and Kessler,

832
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Speaker 5: and to your point, multi positional defender, tough, hard nosed dude,

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Speaker 5: can play in bigger lineups, can play smaller lineups, and

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Speaker 5: also shooting the ball really well this year. So I

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Speaker 5: think he checks that three and D box, and I

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Speaker 5: think it'd be a great addition for the Lakers. But

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Speaker 5: one thing is I think they're gonna pull off like

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Speaker 5: one move, right, Like, let's just say it's Tar Easton,

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Speaker 5: you get him. I think this group still needs multiple pieces.

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Speaker 5: So it's like, I think they can pull off the

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Speaker 5: one move, can you pull off three moves? Can you

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Speaker 5: pull off four moves? That's where I think that there's

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Speaker 5: less confidence on my end.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's where it comes in, like, hey, Lebron, will

845
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Speaker 3: you come back on the cheap? And he's probably gonna like, Bro,

846
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Speaker 3: I'm not taking less money than Tarry Easan to.

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Speaker 5: Play with the ladies. I mean, we're not doing it.

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Speaker 5: That's there, but we're not doing that.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I looked at up Peyton Watson averaged

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Speaker 3: three point three points per game as a freshman.

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Speaker 4: That you see la that's a long way.

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Speaker 3: She had thirty two on threes.

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Speaker 2: He's come a long ways. He's so young.

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Speaker 3: This guy was a big time I mean, he was

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00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: a big time high school player out here in LA.

856
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Speaker 3: But again, like I I'm leary, that is such a

857
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Speaker 3: weak group of free agency. We didn't drill down on

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Speaker 3: Walker Kessler. I forget where I read it. It might

859
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Speaker 3: have been I don't know who wrote it, Windhorst or

860
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Speaker 3: somebody in Denver about how Walker Kessler's people are trying

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Speaker 3: to get him out of there, and.

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Speaker 5: McMahon said it on the pot, Well he did, maybe

863
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Speaker 5: not trying to get him out of it.

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Speaker 4: He had said that he thinks the number is going

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Speaker 4: to be at least twenty five million for Kessler.

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Speaker 2: So this is a problem.

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Speaker 3: Like the new CBA sucks. Everybody wants a ton of

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Speaker 3: money there. There's not enough money to go around. And

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Speaker 3: if you don't draft, well, it's tough to retool. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, Cowhard keeps saying like, well, look at Spurs,

871
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: look at OKC. I'm like, bro, they were down for

872
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: like five years. They were terrible, they could make the playoffs.

873
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: They drafted in the top you draft in the top

874
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: five every year, you're gonna have good players.

875
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: You know, the Lakers had that. I think you were

876
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: covering the team right with Ingram and Russell and who

877
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: was the other guy, Lonzo.

878
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: He said, Julius Randall and Clarkson and Kuzma. I mean

879
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 5: they had yeah, the baby Lakers.

880
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: We want Lebron, we want Anthony Davis, and we got

881
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: a title. So Lakers got a title out of it.

882
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: The question is can they do that with Luca. I'm

883
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: confident because I still believe in Luca. I guess last

884
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: thing on Luca, are you one of these believers that

885
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: he's still like yo yoing in and out of shape

886
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: and he only has three dunks this season and stuff

887
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: like that.

888
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 5: No, I mean I would say, like he visibly he

889
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 5: does seem to not be in as great of shape

890
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 5: as he was earlier in the season, though he's a

891
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 5: guy that like it.

892
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 4: Really it almost depends on like.

893
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: The game, the jersey he's wearing, the photo like I

894
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 5: was looking at him, he had the little you know,

895
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 5: Luca factory that he was doing with Jordan, and it

896
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 5: was like, you know, he was I thought he looked

897
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 5: great there, Yeah, he looked but then you know, you'll

898
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 5: see other photos or just see him in person and

899
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 5: maybe not like on a given night. So he's someone

900
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 5: that I feel like might just be that there are

901
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 5: the people that like, can you maybe retain water weight

902
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 5: or something like at a high level, and I don't

903
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 5: maybe that's him, I'm not really like to your point,

904
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 5: I'm any skepticism about the Lakers has nothing to do

905
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 5: with Luca. It is purely to do with looking at

906
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 5: their moves the last four or five years and like

907
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 5: the inability to find the centers and in three and

908
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 5: D guys that they have really needed, and that's what

909
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 5: Luca is gonna need. So any skepticism I have it

910
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 5: has nothing to do with Luca. It's more candle Lakers

911
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 5: actually pull this off and build the right roster. But

912
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 5: I think he's in that MVP mix right now, Like

913
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 5: I would certainly have Shay and Yokich ahead of him,

914
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 5: but you could argue he's as high as as number three,

915
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 5: and I think he's You look at a guy like

916
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 5: James Harden likes that's the guy I think there's been

917
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 5: a lot of similarities with but he is a playoff

918
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 5: riser in comparison to Harden, like Harden's the guy you

919
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 5: look at game five, game six, game seven, He's going

920
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 5: to wilt under the pressure. With LUCA second highest points

921
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 5: per game in the playoffs behind Michael Jordan has several

922
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: big playoff performances under his belt. His team's always basically

923
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 5: max out their ceilings. So I think longer term Lakers

924
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 5: are gonna be a really good spot with Luca. But

925
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 5: they have to nail either this offseason or next, and

926
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 5: ideally this one, because you don't want to be wasting years.

927
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 5: You could argue, like, if they don't nail this offseason,

928
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 5: we could be having this conversation next summer and we're like, hey,

929
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: the Lakers are three postseasons into the Luca era and

930
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 5: they've gotten out of the first round maybe once on

931
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 5: like the optimistic side, that would be a really tough

932
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 5: start to his Lakers tenure.

933
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, not ideal.

934
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 4: That's think on him. I don't think.

935
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: No, it's not on him. It's not a reflection to him.

936
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: But anyways, all right, Jovan Buha all of his stuff,

937
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 3: He's on YouTube, Instagram, twit, He's everywhere writing good stuff

938
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: all over the Lakers.

939
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, man, appreciate you.