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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Naughty but Nicer. I'm your host, Ram Shooter,

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Speaker 1: and it is Thursday, which means ourdea friend. Mark Lipa

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Speaker 1: joins us HELUPI are you there, louis here? Lou? What

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Speaker 1: have you been up to? What fabulous part is? What

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Speaker 1: celebrities have you been meeting?

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Speaker 2: I went to the screening of Wicked last night.

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Speaker 1: It was so good.

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Speaker 2: I was very impressed by Arianna Citirivo. People were crying

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Speaker 2: in the theater. It was great.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Is one of them a bigger part

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Speaker 1: than the other in the stage show alphabet the Green Witch?

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Speaker 1: She had actually a bigger part than the Glinda. Who's

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Speaker 1: the Who's the Pink Witch? Is Ariana Grande's That's still

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Speaker 1: the case.

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Speaker 2: It's still the case. It very much follows the show

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Speaker 2: with just more emotion and more details.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's great because yeah, she won the Tony

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Speaker 1: Award for Best Actress, where I think Kristin Chenowitz was

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Speaker 1: up for Best Supporting or maybe she was up for

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Speaker 1: Best Actress too, but she didn't win. It was Indiana

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Speaker 1: Manzelle who won for her fabulous role of Alphabeta. They

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Speaker 1: follow the Broadway show.

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Speaker 2: Oh Mark, and their chemistry was undeniable. You could really

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Speaker 2: feel their friendly Yeah, and you know, oh, Alphabet did

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Speaker 2: have a bigger role. But Arianna was hilarious. She was

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Speaker 2: really fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear she lands it. And Ariana said she

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Speaker 1: did not get this because she's Ariana Grande. She had

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Speaker 1: to audition six times and her fame, her celebrity worked

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Speaker 1: against her a little bit. Sou of were like, ah,

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Speaker 1: are we going to see Glinda on the screen or

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Speaker 1: are we going to see Arianna on the screen? Is

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Speaker 1: she too big a star to forget it's Arianna Grandi?

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Speaker 1: But I'm told she pulls it off.

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Speaker 2: She definitely does, and you kind of forget that she's

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Speaker 2: Arianna Grande because her personality and the character really shines through,

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Speaker 2: which is fun.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. Did you go with Kevin Jonas?

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Speaker 2: No, I can only go with coworkers. It wouldn't allow guests.

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Speaker 2: It was very, very limited screening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got canceled at the last minute. So Miss

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Speaker 1: D was invited. Mister did a cover story on Ebony

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Speaker 1: on Cynthia. It was a cover story, So they invited

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Speaker 1: Miss D last night and I was her plus one

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Speaker 1: and then like, I think I might have ruined it

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Speaker 1: for Miss d because two days before, two days before

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Speaker 1: the actual screening, mister got a call said, now we

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Speaker 1: can postpone it till November. Sorry. Okay, let's jump into

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Speaker 1: the show. What time is it? My friends? And is

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Speaker 1: big story at the top of the show. So Meghan

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Speaker 1: Markle is keeping a personal memoir as a weapon in

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Speaker 1: her back pocket in case she needs it. Oh, that's juicy,

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Speaker 1: let's jump in there. So Megan is reportedly holding onto

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Speaker 1: a personal memoir as a strategic move of keeping it

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Speaker 1: in her back pocket for potential use, according to a

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Speaker 1: royal expert. Now, Harry's book it was a bombshell, It

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Speaker 1: made lots and lots of money, sold millions of copies,

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Speaker 1: and he told his story. Meghan has a story to

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Speaker 1: tell too. Some would argue it's even more compelling than Harry's.

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Speaker 1: She's got this story. Insiders are confirming to me she

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Speaker 1: started to write it down, that there are a few

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Speaker 1: her home in California. She's starting to think of a

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Speaker 1: memoir herself. However, and this is where Meghan is so

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Speaker 1: brilliant and I totally believe this. Meghan isn't just going

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Speaker 1: to put it out to earn any money. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: She's got enough money at the moment. She's doing fine.

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Speaker 1: She's going to keep it as insurance because if all

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Speaker 1: this blows up, if God forbid, her marriage doesn't last,

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Speaker 1: something wawful to her, she got herself a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a barter read too, shall we say, because so

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Speaker 1: far she's not really said much side that big interview

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Speaker 1: with Oprah, but she knows everything. Is this genius mark

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Speaker 1: or is this devious? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I think it's a bit of both. However, I think

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Speaker 2: that it's smart for her to hold on to it

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Speaker 2: and not hold on don't use it now, because this

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Speaker 2: is kind of the time where it's do or die

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Speaker 2: for Megan and Harry. If these projects continue to fail,

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna get farther and farther away from

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Speaker 2: And so this is like her last kind of hold

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Speaker 2: I could, and if I had to drop the bomb,

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Speaker 2: you drop the bomb.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. Have you ever done this we're

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Speaker 1: in the gossip business or in the news business, so

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Speaker 1: we know information about people and it's all about the

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Speaker 1: timing when I know something. I find out something about

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Speaker 1: a very big pop star recently, a superstar, and I'm

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Speaker 1: holding it. So I'm just holding it in my pocket

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Speaker 1: just for a minute. I'm not going to say anything

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Speaker 1: just yet, but it's something that I'm holding on to now, Mark,

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Speaker 1: do you do this with your friends, like if you

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Speaker 1: know a Bobshell? I'm like, because knowledge is power, even

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Speaker 1: in friendships and relationships, knowledge is power. I love knowing

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Speaker 1: something and surprisingly, Mark, I can keep a secret. You know.

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Speaker 2: I was really bad at keeping secrets when I was younger,

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Speaker 2: and I would always get in trouble for having, you know,

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Speaker 2: loose lips and just talking too much. But I've really,

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Speaker 2: in my older hearers, have gotten to a place where

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Speaker 2: I can hold on to it and I feel better

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Speaker 2: about myself for not releasing info.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're.

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Speaker 2: Working in the gossip business, like when I've been done,

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Speaker 2: when I've worked as a reporter in the past, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's hard to You have to be strategic at how

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Speaker 2: you release the information, and you can kind of barter

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Speaker 2: with a publicist and say, if we hold on to

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Speaker 2: the story, if you give us something else. In that way,

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Speaker 2: everyone kind of has a piece of a pie.

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Speaker 1: Yes, an A list celebrity who was getting married we

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Speaker 1: us to say, if we don't run the story, he

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Speaker 1: will give us an exclusive on the wedding, which is

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Speaker 1: outrageous because this wedding should be in vogue, like it

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Speaker 1: should be in vanity there. But we were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we'll hold on to that. Then they broke up. They

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Speaker 1: never got married, so I wasted all that knowledge. But

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Speaker 1: I do think it's an example where you've got to

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Speaker 1: think about it. What am I going to do with this?

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Speaker 1: I've had drinks with people who claim to be my friend,

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Speaker 1: who've trashed me behind my back, and I don't say

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Speaker 1: a word mark. I can sit, I can keep a secret.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like paying poker, isn't it? Like Lady Gaga

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Speaker 1: Have you got one?

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Speaker 2: I do now, But I used to really that I

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Speaker 2: was an emotional memory and I reacted.

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Speaker 1: But now Jonathan, your brother upset you when you were little,

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Speaker 1: you went straight at it. You could could resist excitedly.

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Speaker 1: It looks like poking a bear. You could not help yourself. Well,

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Speaker 1: Mega Markle, she's strategic. She really is clever. Even if

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Speaker 1: you don't like Meghan, there's a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: a long game, she really does. She thinks things through. Hey,

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Speaker 1: she got a prince. She figured this out, and so

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Speaker 1: don't ever underrestorinate Mega Markle. And I think this is

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Speaker 1: just so delicious. She's got the gossip. The family knows

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Speaker 1: what she knows. She does know it, and so far

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Speaker 1: she's not really said much. A little bit on Oprah,

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Speaker 1: Harry loose lips. Harry, he said everything right away in

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Speaker 1: his book. Meghan's like, you know, I'll hold onto this

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Speaker 1: for a little bit, which brings us to our whole

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Speaker 1: question of the day. Meghan Markle is keeping her personal

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Speaker 1: TVUS or is this smart? Take a vote on Twitter

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Speaker 1: pe naughtynes like I can't wait to see the results,

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Speaker 1: be sure. Let's check back tomorrow to hear your results.

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Speaker 1: Hey Loopie, what are you working on that?

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Speaker 2: I more sad news for Justin Bieber. Justin Bieber is

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Speaker 2: considering taking legal action against his former business managers, accusing

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Speaker 2: them of mismanaging his fortune. Remembered to be worth three

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. I know, let me explained so according

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Speaker 2: to so. According to sources speaking to TMZ, Bieber has

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Speaker 2: been increasingly frustrated over the past few years, believing that

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Speaker 2: poor financial decisions made by his management team have caused

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Speaker 2: him to lose a significant portion of his wealth. Now,

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Speaker 2: some advisors would argue that the singer's only irresponsible spending

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Speaker 2: habits contributed to his financial wills, while others support the

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Speaker 2: idea of holding his former managers accountable. Bieber previously lived

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Speaker 2: a very lavish lifestyle, and he could be facing an

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Speaker 2: uphill battle if his own spending habits are called into question. Wow,

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Speaker 2: what do you think?

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Speaker 1: This is? Unfortunately not as unusual as you think. A

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Speaker 1: lot of celebrities hire really shady people, normally their boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: their husband, their wife, their sister to be their business managers,

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Speaker 1: and they just don't know how to do it. Hire

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Speaker 1: a professional. If I hire a bad company to look

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Speaker 1: after my money and they do a bad job, there

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Speaker 1: isn't that on me. Like Justin, you hired them also too.

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Speaker 1: Let's be clear here, three hundred million, wouldn't you notice that?

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Speaker 1: About one million or two million? I would let it

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Speaker 1: go that far. I don't know to the penny how

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Speaker 1: have a general idea, mark like, I'm not three hundred

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Speaker 1: think here part of it is Justin's responsibility. You hired

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Speaker 1: can't be surprised if shady people skim some of the money.

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Speaker 1: The other problem they have, too, is they are putting

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Speaker 1: together two things here that I think are very separate.

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Speaker 1: If just he wants to waste his money, that's up

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Speaker 1: to him. It's his money. He can spend his money

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Speaker 1: I bought myself a Ferrari out of his money, that's

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Speaker 1: wrong I should not do it, but justin you can

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Speaker 1: buy whatever the whatever you want out of your money.

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Speaker 1: Did he waste a lot of it? Of course he did.

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Speaker 1: But wouldn't you if you were his age and you

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Speaker 1: suddenly became super rich and a big star and all

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Speaker 1: to that because it's his money. Now, it gets a

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Speaker 1: little bit questionable about people who look after your money

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Speaker 1: because it's still your money. But you did hire them

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Speaker 1: to look after your money. Forget money, Mark. If you

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Speaker 1: hired me, Mark to be your publicist and I did

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Speaker 1: a lousy job in it, you'd still have to pay me.

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Speaker 1: Like We've all hired people who have not done very

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Speaker 1: good jobs. I've been to restaurants and I've sat down

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Speaker 1: for a really awful meal, but I've still like to pay,

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Speaker 1: Like you have to pay unless it's outrageous, unless the

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Speaker 1: hire good people, surround yourself with really good people. What

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Speaker 1: do you think, Mark? Do you agree?

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Speaker 2: I totally agree, And I think that's part of the

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Speaker 2: problem is that you know, going back to his childhood.

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Speaker 1: I'm an ab shooter with her dear friend Mark Loopo,

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Speaker 1: Hey Loopy. Let's get to the polls that yesterday we

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Speaker 1: revealed that Kim Kardashian is pretty much a single mom

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Speaker 1: to vent on to baseball page at Naughty Nice rob

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Speaker 1: And now it's time for the nicest of the day.

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Speaker 2: Wow, So Blake Lively waited like a normal person for

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Speaker 1: So she should, but it's for her. This is amazing, This.

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Speaker 2: Girls sign out at the trendy West Village restaurant with

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Speaker 1: Ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I think this is

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Speaker 1: come on, celebrities, you are famous, but you can wait

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Speaker 3: like it's not the restaurant punish isn't this Somebody didn't

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Speaker 1: it at naughty is the day, naughty, naughty, naughty. Prince

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Speaker 1: Love it, it's so so shady. Also did make me

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Speaker 1: I love this quote from Mark Twain. Twenty years from now,

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Speaker 1: twenty years from now? Looking back? You're gonna regret the

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Speaker 1: things you didn't do, not the things you did. Hey,

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Speaker 1: much for listening to the Naughty but Nice with Rob

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Speaker 1: if you're going to be naughty, you gotta be nice.

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