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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, welcome back to Killers amongst Us,

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Speaker 1: the production of iHeart Media and Crime Online. How do

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Speaker 1: you know who is around you? How do you know

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Speaker 1: who's walking beside you at the mall or the grocery store,

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Speaker 1: or when you're out for a walk or a jog

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Speaker 1: and you pass people who wave and smile? Who are they? I?

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace? This is Killers amongst Us? Where the mom

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Speaker 1: to beautiful children, the daughter to loving devoted parents? Where

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Speaker 1: is she? What happened to Michelle? First of all, take

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Speaker 1: a listen to our friend Bob Kealing at WESH two.

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Speaker 1: When Parker was last seen dropping off her twins at

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Speaker 1: their father, Dale Smith's condo, her had this sticker advertising

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Speaker 1: her home tanning business. Hours later, when red light camera

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Speaker 1: video picked up footage of it being driven at Conroy

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Speaker 1: in Vineland, the sticker was gone. Police suspects someone involved

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Speaker 1: with her disappearance pulled into this remote area to strip

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Speaker 1: it off and make the vehicle less recognizable. We don't

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Speaker 1: know who was driving it, but somebody was driving it,

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Speaker 1: and I hope to god there was nervous as hell

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Speaker 1: that we're coming after them, A lead detective tells wesh to.

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Speaker 1: This area is also where Parker's phone pinged for a

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Speaker 1: final time with a text message. Police believe someone else

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Speaker 1: sent to give her family the impression Michelle was still alive.

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Speaker 1: So we've got the car, we now have the cell

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Speaker 1: zone discarded into a body of water. We've got video surveillance,

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Speaker 1: we've got everything, but Michelle with me an all star panel.

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Speaker 1: Bianca Prieta, former Orlando Sentinel criminal justice reporter. You can

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Speaker 1: find her on insta at Bianca Prieto. Doctor Jen Mann,

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Speaker 1: marriage family therapist, host couples Therapy on VH one, the

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Speaker 1: Doctor Jen Show on Sirius x sim author of The

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Speaker 1: Relationship Fixed, and you can find her at doctor Jen

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Speaker 1: dot com. Cheryl McCullum, founder and director of the Coldcase

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Speaker 1: Research Institute, find her at Coldcase Crimes dot org. John W.

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Speaker 1: Deal renowned lawyer out of the Orlando jurisdiction. He's been

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Speaker 1: on team find Michelle from the get go, and you

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Speaker 1: can find him at John W. Deald Ill dot com.

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Speaker 1: Awesome lawyer, but special guests joining me right now. A

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Speaker 1: voice we've been waiting to hear Michelle's mother, Yvon Stewart,

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Speaker 1: Miss Stewart. After all this time, I feel like I

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Speaker 1: know you, as to so many other legal egals across

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Speaker 1: not only the country, but the world. As you join

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Speaker 1: us today, recall the first moment you learned Michelle is missing.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget that moment. And excuse me because I

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Speaker 1: do cry, because it's pure of love, tears to heaven.

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Speaker 1: I was at the salon and her oldest son at

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Speaker 1: the time, Austin, he was eleven, and he called and

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Speaker 1: it was dark, and she didn't come home to meet

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Speaker 1: and then he called the salon to talk to my

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Speaker 1: with us. And we knew then that something wasn't right

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Speaker 1: because I had spent the morning with her and she

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Speaker 1: and then she said, I'm going to go pick up

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Speaker 1: that's one of the worst things. The very few times

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Speaker 1: and all years the twins have been his school. It's

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Speaker 1: It's happened twice. They're thirteen, and they started going in

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Speaker 1: standing there, never, Yvonne. No, he m. He wrote a

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Speaker 1: like we all are. You know, all good moms do that, Yvonne.

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Speaker 1: People's Court had aired that afternoon, and well, hold on

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Speaker 1: right there. Speaking of People's Court, take a listen to

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Speaker 1: our friends at Fox Knees. A search is underway in

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Speaker 1: that her case air on the TV show The People's Court.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Michelle Parker, mother of three, has not

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Speaker 1: People's Court, but he gets pretty malicious and vindictive, and

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Speaker 1: he's a mean person, especially when he's been drinking. Thirty

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Speaker 1: three year old Michelle Lee Parker and her ex fiance

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Speaker 1: Dale Smith bickering over an engagement ring thrown out of

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Speaker 1: back after the stage, going, get on that backup on stage.

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Speaker 1: You know, just hours after this episode of the People's

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Speaker 1: Court finally aired last Thursday, Parker vanished. But was her

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Speaker 1: disappearance early foreshadowed or was it an untanned coincidence? Let

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Speaker 1: me understand this, Bianca Prieto, former Orlando Sentinel criminal justice reporter.

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Speaker 1: At Bianca Prieto, Bianca, the program People's Court one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest judge shows that there has ever been on TV.

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Speaker 1: She Michelle Parker taped a show with Dale Smith, the

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Speaker 1: her first marriage, the eleven year old, but the twins

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Speaker 1: are from Dale Smith Junior. They were on People's Court

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Speaker 1: the day she disappears, Bianca, it was taped before and

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Speaker 1: been a hell of a rollercoaster ride, and it's poison,

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Speaker 1: something Parker knew for years. In two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 1: she filed and was granted a restraining order against Smith.

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Speaker 1: Parker claims, you quote smashed the passenger side window and

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Speaker 1: quote studied death, destruction, terror and mayhem at the US

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Speaker 1: not looking at him, We're looking at everything. Back to

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Speaker 1: Michelle's mother, Yvonne Stewart with us, and again, Ivan, thank

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. But what I attracted her to

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Speaker 1: Dell Smith Junior to start with, Oh, she really didn't

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Speaker 1: that's what That's what women and domestic violence situations do

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Speaker 1: it's going to get better, and it never goes It

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Speaker 1: just gets worse. Two. Doctor gen Man, Marriage and Family Therapist,

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Speaker 1: host Couples Therapy VH one, Doctor Jin shows series XIM,

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Speaker 1: author Relationship Fixed at doctor jen dot com. Doctor Jen

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Speaker 1: statistics show that it is when the woman tries to

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Speaker 1: typically escalates. Yes, Nancy, you know, I spent many years

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Speaker 1: And let me emphasize that. Dale Smith Junior, the biodat

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Speaker 1: death or disappearance of Michelle Parker. To Yvonne Stewart, this

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Speaker 1: is Michelle's mother joining us. Why did she Michelle Parker

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Speaker 1: decide to go onto People's Court? They filmed that in

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Speaker 1: That the People's Court will pay whatever the decision is.

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Speaker 1: I think it's Judge Million. They yeah. She told Michelle

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Speaker 1: So she's not an idiot. Marilyn Million, Yes, you're absolutely right,

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Speaker 1: Listen again to our friend Matt Gutman. Parker was a

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Speaker 1: She said, that was the most humiliating experience of my life.

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Speaker 1: I don't even ever want to see it. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: not clear whether Parker watched that episode of the People's Court.

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Speaker 1: disappearance continues to mistify investigators. Here again, let me emphasize

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Speaker 1: She was going to Avada. She was going to work

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Speaker 1: I think they were. I think it was actually a

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00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: chessboard move for him to look innocent. The night I

428
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: called him when I knew Michelle was missing, right before

429
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: we reported it to the police department, I called him

430
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: at his mother's house and I told him Michelle didn't

431
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: come home. Is she with you? He goes, no, I

432
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: think she said she was going shopping or something. And

433
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: then I said, well, she's not at home, she's not

434
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: at work. Something's happened. I think something's happened to her.

435
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to call the police, and he said, oh, well,

436
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: I hope they find her. And I remember taking the

437
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: phone away from my face and staring at the pay phone,

438
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: going what it was just the weirdest response to me.

439
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: He never ever ever called me to see how I

440
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 1: was doing. Anybody in the family his family, Nobody ever called,

441
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: Nobody helped us book for her on his entire side

442
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: of the family. They didn't put out the first flyer,

443
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: the first poster. Nothing. I mean, let me just understand that.

444
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: Sean McCollum, help me process what Evan Stewart just said. Yeah,

445
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: it's a clue. It's a gigantic parade of clues. Anybody.

446
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: When you look at somebody and you think of means,

447
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: mode of an opportunity, Okay, could they have done this?

448
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: And then you look at pre and post behavior. So

449
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: somebody that has been violent toward her but has three

450
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: year old twins with her, But the minute she goes missing,

451
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,239
Speaker 1: I don't care what y'all were fighting about her an

452
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: hour ago. You flip that switch and that becomes the

453
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 1: mother of your children and never flipped for him, Nancy,

454
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, speaking of speaking of our friend Tim Miller

455
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: at Texas Equisurch crime victim himself as daughter was murdered

456
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: and we're longtime friends and associates. The founder of Texas Equistarch,

457
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: Tim Miller said that his search and rescue group will

458
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: not aid and the search for missing mom Michelle Parker.

459
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: This while police dive teams begin searching and a new

460
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: pond near oak Ridge Road. Miller got back on a

461
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: plane and headed to Texas after flying to Orlando on

462
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: Thursday at the request of the person of interests Dale

463
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: Smith Junior's lawyer, so that search never happened. For those

464
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: of you just joining us. Michelle a gorgeous young mother

465
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: of three. Last scene after she dropped her three year

466
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: old twins off with bio dad Dale Smith Junior. She

467
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: was never seen again and video released shortly after that

468
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: drop off. Somebody's in her homer, but it's not her.

469
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: Anne is going in the opposite direction that she would

470
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: have gone to go to work. But speaking of the twins,

471
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: we're getting tons of calls and emails about the twins.

472
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut fifteen West two's Bob Keeling. Yesterday,

473
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: the Department of Children and Family took emergency custody of

474
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: Parker's three year old twins fathered by Smith. In this

475
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: emergency court hearing, DCF lawyers argued that Smith's criminal and

476
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: abusive past meant that children were in danger. The mother's

477
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: not here, but the fact that she's not here is

478
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: something that It's like eight hundred pound rolling where you

479
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: can't ignore it. Smith's attorney, Martinie Jane, punched hole after

480
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: hole in this it's custody petition. You just don't go

481
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: and pay children from a home with this most minimal

482
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: and most today accusations. Judge Thomas Turner cited with Smith,

483
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: saying nothing in his recent past made him afraid for

484
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: the children. I don't see any eviden he presents any

485
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: imminent risk of substantial harm to these children. Parker's sister

486
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: sobbed and stormed out of court. Are you satisfied with

487
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: today's decision, mister Smith? Smith said nothing, and also would

488
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: not answer questions about Michelle Parker's disappearance. You know it

489
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: was me and my husband was missing. I would be

490
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: on the front of the court house steps screaming for justice.

491
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: How could a judge Avon Stewart, this is Michelle's mom

492
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: say there was no history of violence when the previous wife,

493
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: I think, pled guilty to agg assault on her. And

494
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: then there's the t r O Temporary Training order taken

495
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: out by your daughter, Michelle against him. It was an

496
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: emergency hearing. They gave me the children custody. The night

497
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: before at eleven o'clock, I met with the DCS people.

498
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: They came to my home, they brought the children and

499
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: then I immediately got a phone call ban I had

500
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: to be in court the next very next morning at

501
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: nine o'clock. The judge was a temporary judge. He didn't

502
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: have any backgrounds, like we didn't have any. There wasn't

503
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: enough time to do any background So Mark me James

504
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: made that happen because he's just an absolute He'll do

505
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: anything for money. That's the kind of guy he is.

506
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: I know that that judge didn't have enough. He didn't

507
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: have enough information. Guys, take a listen to Kelly Cook,

508
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: Spectrum News thirteen. It's been nearly sixteen months since Michelle

509
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Parker appeared on this episode of A People's Court with

510
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: her x Beyonce Dale Smith. A second the day that

511
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: show aired, Michelle vanished. Despite numerous searches, there have been

512
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: no signs of Parker, a young mother of three whose

513
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: picture is still posted all over central Florida. Now, a

514
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: wrongful death lawsuit has been filed on behalf of Parker's mother,

515
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: Yvonne Stewart. No doubt in their mind that del Smith

516
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: is responsible for the death of Michelle Parker. There's no

517
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: doubt in Yvonne's mind at all, and she didn't take

518
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: this lightly. And the complaint filed on Thursday, Michelle Parker

519
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: is listed as deceased, although her body was never found.

520
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: Parker's mother is seeking damages in excess of fifteen thousand dollars,

521
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: claiming Smith was negligent and her daughter's death. Michelle Parker's

522
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: family believes and they've provided to us evidence and information

523
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: and circumstances surrounding her disappearance that gave us the confidence

524
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: to file this lawsuit today. Again, let me emphasize that

525
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: Dale Smith Junior, the biodubt of the twins, has not

526
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: been formally charged in the death or disappearance of Michelle Parker.

527
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: But listen to Michelle Parker our friends at WFTV News

528
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: Channel N. I felt somebody grabbed me and he yanked

529
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: me around. As he grabbed and turned around, he was

530
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 1: holding on to me, screaming at me, pointing back after

531
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: the stage, going get on that back up on stage.

532
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: That's what TV viewers across the country heard Michelle Parker

533
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: say about her expiance Dale Smith, just hours before she

534
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: disappeared after dropping off their twins at his home. He

535
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: was the last known person to see her alive. Orlando

536
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: police have called him their prime suspect, and now Parker's

537
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: mother has filed a wrongful death lawsuit accusing him of

538
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: causing her death. Her lawyers say they have their own

539
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: strong evidence against him. There's text messages and just the

540
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: whole the timing of the disappearance, with the text messages

541
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: and the relationship. Orlando attorney John Morgan does not expect

542
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: to be able to access whatever evidence police might have

543
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: against Smith, and he's not phased by the possibility that

544
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: Smith could take the fifth in a civil case to

545
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: prevent incriminating himself in any future or criminal case. It's

546
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: been my experience, in my view, that most guilty people

547
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: take the fifth. You know, John Gotti took the fifth

548
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: to Von Stewart. This is Michelle's mother. What if anything,

549
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: has Smith Junior told you about what happened? Nothing? Absolutely nothing. Nothing.

550
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: Did you ask him? He can't look me in the eye.

551
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: I saw him in the courtroom that morning, and my

552
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: only concern was that I would be able to stay

553
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: in the twins life. And I hugged him and I

554
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 1: asked him I did that on purpose, because I said

555
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: I didn't do this. I didn't do this. This was

556
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: all BCF. All I could care about at that point

557
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: was making sure that I would be part of their

558
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: life and that he wouldn't shut me out. But he did,

559
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: so you know that's how that goes. What do you

560
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: mean he shut you out? Well, he stopped letting me

561
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: have any visitation, and then he started having me sign

562
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: document saying that I couldn't call my grandson by his

563
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: nickname because Michelle named him that and he didn't want

564
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: me to ever use that nickname. And I had to

565
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: sign official legal like statement saying that I wouldn't call

566
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: him Trey. And then he stopped letting me see them

567
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: for like a day or overnight. I could see him

568
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: for maybe two hours here and there, and then he

569
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: moved away and he never even told me he was moving.

570
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: He just left. Because you know why, Florida doesn't have

571
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: great at right laws, which I so desperately tried to

572
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: change and that failed. Also, Von, where are the twins now?

573
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: They live? They live with their dad in the same

574
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: place that she dropped them off that day. They live

575
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: here in Orlando. Do you ever see them? No? Not allowed?

576
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: Not allowed. I think that a few more years will

577
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: go by, they'll be eighteen, and then I can legally,

578
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: I can legally just walk up to them and talk

579
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: to them at that point, and he can't do anything

580
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: about it because they'll be of age. And you know,

581
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: we did pass the grandparent right law in Florida. John

582
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: Dill was there with me, and it did finally pass

583
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: the second year, and we took it to court and

584
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: it got dismissed without me even getting to say one word,

585
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: and then the appellate court upheld it. So that was

586
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: a big sale. But boy, I tried. I can live

587
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: with that, and you're still trying, John deal. What's the

588
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: status in the case of the search from Michelle Parker. Well,

589
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: on the civil side, we ran into the problems that

590
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: he did take the Fifth Amendment. Of course, there's no

591
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: additional evidence that we've been able to get because it's

592
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: still an open investigation. So the civil lawsuitor hoping to

593
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: get him to talk. Really, the plan was always not

594
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: to get money from him. The plan was always to

595
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: find out what happened and to at least let's start

596
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: the investigation, maybe get some more tips gone forward. That's

597
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: kind of how it stands right now. They're still an

598
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: open investigation. Michelle is still important to a lot of people.

599
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: I've heard from folks here intown after hearing the podcast

600
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: that they went to school with their renew her and

601
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: they're still praying for her. So it's out there. The

602
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: family has not forgotten, the people who love or have

603
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: not forgotten, and we haven't forgotten. We're going to continue

604
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: to work to try to get answers. Yvon Stewart, what

605
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: do you think happened? John, Am I allowed to be

606
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: honest or do I have to cover my butt? I

607
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: think you can go ahead and be honest as what

608
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, just to be safe, Okay. I think when

609
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: she got to his condo that day to drop off

610
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: the children, he knew that she was going to trade

611
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: in the hummer and that would be his last thumb

612
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: on her, that he wouldn't have no more control. And then,

613
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: of course, an hour earlier, she said on National TV

614
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: that their relationship was poison and all of the things

615
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: that you just played earlier that were pre recorded on

616
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: that People's Court, and I think he lost it and

617
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: I think he killed her right then and there on

618
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: the spot. As of today, there aren't no facial charges

619
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: and they disappearance or death of Michelle Parker Yvonne, what

620
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: can you tell me about her? Older son, Austin. Austin

621
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: is so quiet now he has it has changed his

622
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: whole demeanor. And he lost his mother, his brother, his sister,

623
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: his grandma because he had to move away, and his

624
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: uncle's and my husband, his pop Pop, and his whole

625
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: life changed. And he moved to Pittsburgh and grew up

626
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: there and he would he came and visited every year,

627
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: sometimes twice a year. And he finally came out on Facebook.

628
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: I think it was year five after her disappearance, and

629
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: he wrote an astounding, heartfelt paragraph about how much he

630
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: missed his mom, and it was the first time but

631
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: he had ever related to anybody. He talked to me

632
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: about it, and he would ask any questions from time

633
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: to time, and I would tell them straight up, honest,

634
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: what I think was going to happen. And the main

635
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: thing that I wanted him to know was that she

636
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: would never, ever, ever have just disappeared. And he told

637
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: me when he lived with Dale, Dale would lock him

638
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: out of the house and he could hear them fighting,

639
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: and he would be banging on the door and crying

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Speaker 1: trying to get in for his mother, and he's traumatized.

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Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, something that no child should have to

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Speaker 1: ever live with. And I know he's not the only

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Speaker 1: that's ever had to lose them mother horrible. He's bouncing

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Speaker 1: back now. He's been with us for about a year.

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Speaker 1: He's learning how to fix things like his four wheeler.

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Speaker 1: He's building an airboat. He's got really good friends. He's

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Speaker 1: got a good head on his shoulder. His dad did

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Speaker 1: a great job raising him. He's never been in trouble,

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Speaker 1: there's no no. I'd never seen him like act out

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Speaker 1: in any way. And he graduated from high school. So

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Speaker 1: he's doing very well. Guys, ticklesson to our friends at NBC.

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Speaker 1: A spokesman for the Orlando Police Department says the lead

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Speaker 1: suspect in the case is still Dale Smith, the ex fiance,

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Speaker 1: although no charges have been filed and Smith denies any

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Speaker 1: involvement in Parker's disappearance. Police say currently there are no

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Speaker 1: updates in the case, but also say the investigation is

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Speaker 1: still active and that the department will continue to support

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Speaker 1: the family in search efforts in hopes of locating Michelle.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's something that she loved Lauren Erickson

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Speaker 1: is Parker's sister and keeps a room filled with her

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00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: sister's belongings. She'll never get to get dressed up and

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Speaker 1: go out and be with her friends and her family

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Speaker 1: what she loved to do. And it's just nothing. Nothing

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Speaker 1: will ever make it right, nothing will ever make it easier.

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Speaker 1: And for the family, the hardest part of all is

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Speaker 1: having to explain the disappearance to Parker's children. Last, to

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Speaker 1: Von Stewart, Michelle's mother, what is your most vivid memory

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Speaker 1: of Michelle? Her giggle and when she would get like

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Speaker 1: she liked to play little practical jokes on people, and

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Speaker 1: she was just so so fun And when she got tickled,

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Speaker 1: she would literally like tears would come out of her

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Speaker 1: her eyes and she would take her hands and she

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Speaker 1: would wipe them away and she would just gut level laugh.

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Speaker 1: She was just and she was just such a gift

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Speaker 1: giving person. She gave people presents all the time. She

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Speaker 1: made sure that everybody, you know, had little things that

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Speaker 1: they liked. She went out of her way to be

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Speaker 1: a good friend to everybody that was her really good friend.

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Speaker 1: Of the investigation into the disappearance of Michelle, according to police,

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Speaker 1: is ongoing If you have information eight hundred four two

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Speaker 1: three eight four seven seven Repeat eight hundred four two

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Speaker 1: three eight four seven seven. Let Michelle's children finally know

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Speaker 1: the truth, know where is Mommy? Nancy Grace Killers amongst us,

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Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,