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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're taking

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Speaker 1: a page from birthday Girl Taylor Swift's book and embracing

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Speaker 1: the final Friday, the thirteenth of the year. No periscovide

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Speaker 1: could triophobia for us. That's right, It's Friday, December thirteenth,

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Speaker 1: and on today's show, I talked to two time Paralympic swimmer, speaker,

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Speaker 1: beauty junkie and activist for the visually impaired, Honest Decia

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Speaker 1: taz Pagonis. We discuss how she learned, how she would

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Speaker 1: lose her sight and tried to prepare for blindness, how

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Speaker 1: her guide dog gives her much needed confidence, meddling at

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Speaker 1: the Paralympics and creating videos and working with brands to

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Speaker 1: change how people see visually impaired folks. Plus what the

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Speaker 1: fact about moms who coach? And Angel City's newest investment

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Speaker 1: in the community.

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Speaker 2: It's all coming up right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back Slices, Happy Friday, Miche has your need to

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Speaker 1: know today, Take it away.

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Speaker 3: Mesh, Thank you, Sarah. In College Vibes News, the NCAA

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Speaker 3: Sweet sixteen continues today. There are four matchups on ESPN

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Speaker 3: two starting at one pm. Eastern with two seed Creighton

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Speaker 3: versus three seed Texas. That's followed by one seed Penn

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Speaker 3: State versus five seed Marquette at three thirty, then two

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Speaker 3: seed Wisconsin versus six seeded Texas A and M at seven,

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Speaker 3: and finally one seed Nebraska faces five seed Dayton to

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Speaker 3: round things out at nine thirty. We'll link to the

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Speaker 3: tournament bracket in our show notes. In college hoops, there

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Speaker 3: are a couple Top twenty five clashes happening this weekend,

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Speaker 3: all on Sunday. First, the undefeated number seventeen Michigan State

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Speaker 3: Spartans hosts number twenty one Iowa at noon on Big

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Speaker 3: ten Network. Iowa's fresh off of victory over in state

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Speaker 3: rival Iowa State on Wednesday night and looking to keep

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Speaker 3: the winds rolling in. Then it's undefeated number twenty five

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Speaker 3: Georgia Tech on the road against number fourteen North Carolina

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Speaker 3: at two pm Eastern on ACC Network. Texts one of

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Speaker 3: the ten undefeated teams left across the country, and the

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Speaker 3: tarho are going to try and ruin their party. I'm

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Speaker 3: also going to be locked in for the battle between

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Speaker 3: number twenty two NC State and unranked Louisville at one pm.

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Speaker 3: On ABC. The Cardinals dropped out of the ap Top

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Speaker 3: twenty five this week and could end up right back

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Speaker 3: in it with a win over the Wolfpack. We'll link

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Speaker 3: to the full schedule of games this weekend in our

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Speaker 3: show notes. Lastly, I just want to give a shout

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Speaker 3: out to tam USA sprinter and Olympic gold medalist Shakerrie Richardson,

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Speaker 3: who's the January February cover star of Essence magazine. I

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Speaker 3: was scrolling the TL and I saw those pictures and man,

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Speaker 3: that's good work. Must see if you haven't already. Plus,

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Speaker 3: the cover story written by Scheren Nicole is excellent too.

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Speaker 3: We'll link to the cover and story in our show notes.

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Speaker 1: Thanks me, We got to take a quick break when

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Speaker 1: we come back. Taz Pagonis wants folks to see her

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Speaker 1: differently stick around.

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Speaker 2: Joining US now.

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Speaker 1: She's a two time pairlel Olympic swimmer and two time

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Speaker 1: holder in the women's four hundred meter freestyle S eleven class.

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Speaker 1: She wants to change the way folks see the visually

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Speaker 1: impaired and her guide dog, Radar has a better skincare

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Speaker 1: and beauty regime than I do. It's Anastasia, but really

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Speaker 1: honest a Sea pagonas, what's up, Anastasia?

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Speaker 4: Hi? How are you guys? Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: I'm sticking with the American pronunciation. I don't trust myself

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Speaker 5: Honestly, that's totally fair. You can call me toss too

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Speaker 5: if you want. That's what like, my friends and family

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Speaker 1: So honest to seea is so pretty though, So it

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Speaker 1: sucks for you that Americans are like, we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: with Anastasia.

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Speaker 2: Also pretty, also pretty bad?

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Speaker 4: Yea. I feel like it's like a different type of pretty.

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Speaker 5: But honestly, when I hear honest to see you, I

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Speaker 5: feel like one of my parents or grandparents is like

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like when you when you

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Speaker 4: hear the name, you're a little scared. Yeah, very true.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with Radar because I'm obsessed with dogs.

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Speaker 1: many amazing social media videos of him. Every dog has

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Speaker 5: Radar is an angel in every way, but his toxic

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Speaker 5: trait is definitely being stubborn. He is so ridiculously stubborn

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Speaker 5: it's crazy, but I love that for him. So, and

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Speaker 5: his bedtime is seven thirty. If you ask him to

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Speaker 4: Seven thirty, he's like, screw you, You're on your own.

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Speaker 1: Girl, Like, no way. Not if there was an emergency,

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Speaker 5: Yes, if I like really needed him, he would like

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Speaker 5: totally be there. But if it's like eight o'clock and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, Radar want to go outside and like go

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Speaker 2: We love a lazy dog.

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Speaker 1: We love a lazy dog because when we're lazy, we

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Speaker 1: to get back to Radar in a minute and how

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Speaker 1: he really helped you adjust. But let's go back to

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Speaker 1: when you started losing your vision at the age of twelve.

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Speaker 1: It was genetic retina disease and autoimmune retinopathy. Can you

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Speaker 1: take us back to those early days, Like when you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so when I first was going through kind of

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Speaker 5: Neither did my family. They just thought that I was

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Speaker 5: like super clumsy and just that mess of a child,

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Speaker 5: going to my doctor and my mom noticed that, like, no,

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Speaker 5: this is definitely much more severe than just a clumsy,

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Speaker 5: So we get to the doctor and I was misdiagnosed,

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Speaker 5: pulling in a bunch of doctors, a bunch of nurses,

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Speaker 5: blood work done and all this stuff, And obviously I

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Speaker 5: A lot of doctors that just have god awful, honestly

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Speaker 5: But now I travel to U penn in Philly and

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Speaker 5: they're amazing. They work on like rats and gorillas all

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Speaker 5: and they were the ones who diagnosed me. I have

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Speaker 5: an autoimmune disease, so basically I like to explain it

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Speaker 5: as alopecia because a lot of people know what that is.

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Speaker 5: But it's kind of the same thing that's going on

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Speaker 5: disease where my body is also basically clotting retina, like

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Speaker 5: clotting vitamin A in my retina, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: I'm very blessed in the eye department.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all all in the same spot. My gosh,

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Speaker 1: so you finally you get that diagnosis, what's your immediate reaction?

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Speaker 5: No, I was actually told that I was only going

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Speaker 5: to lose my central vision. And I think that's why

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Speaker 5: when I did lose more than my central vision, why

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Speaker 5: expectation of, oh, like, if you get told you're winning

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like that would have been nice. But now

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Speaker 2: I was expecting a million.

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Speaker 5: So, So I had that expectation and that false hope

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Speaker 5: more of my vision. I vividly remember it happening. I

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Speaker 5: I went into, as someone would, a very dark, deep depression,

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Speaker 5: and it was really hard for me. My family was

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Speaker 5: No matter what anyone does for you, it really has

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Speaker 1: I have a friend with Usher syndrome, and so she's

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Speaker 1: knowing that eventually she'll really be limited. But she's also

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Speaker 1: trying to plan ahead. So how much did you start

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Speaker 5: I think that there's no way of preparing to be

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Speaker 5: Like there's no way for me to prepare myself to

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Speaker 5: that I could do to prepare for losing literally your

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Speaker 5: main sense. When I was first diagnosed, my family asked

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Speaker 5: But now I'm here and I'm doing ten times more

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Speaker 5: about disabilities is people truly believe that you can't do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about sort of the depression that you

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Speaker 2: Serious, and you do a great job of that.

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Speaker 1: You want to change people's perspective on blindness, including things

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Speaker 5: and that's something that I'm trying to break down, Like no,

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Speaker 4: You don't have to be like that, right.

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Speaker 1: Also, while we're here, what happened to you in order

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to your trauma. Are you okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: But it's you can tell when someone's asking because they

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Speaker 5: And I love when people ask me things, but maybe

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Speaker 5: Or like getting yelled at by like random people because

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Speaker 1: One of the ones you said, which just is like

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, it is genuinely a dream come true.

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 5: Basically she put a sticker, she printed it out and

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Speaker 2: It is when you stand the QR code, it talks

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when it talks to you, and it tells you

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Speaker 4: No, he actually does that.

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Speaker 4: Trust me. I'm like screaming at him. I'm like that

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Speaker 5: And I'm like screaming at him. He's no, he's like

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Speaker 5: And we carry a beauty blender in his car because

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Speaker 4: He's the best.

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Speaker 1: So, having worked with ELF and probably a handful of

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Speaker 5: I think inclusivity, diversity and inclusion is something that is

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Speaker 5: they're just checking off that box, but you have to

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Speaker 5: walk the walk and it's something that can be so easy.

441
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Speaker 5: And hiring disabled people to help you figure out what

442
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Speaker 5: is the right way to do this, what is the

443
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Speaker 5: right and the wrong way to do this, and how

444
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Speaker 5: can we make this good for everyone that has a

445
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Speaker 5: disability because there's so many disabilities out there, and there's

446
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Speaker 5: so many varies and things like that. Even for like

447
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Speaker 5: my parents who need to wear glasses to like see anything,

448
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Speaker 5: that must their souls. They would find use out of

449
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Speaker 5: like a barcode that they can scan and it tells

450
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Speaker 5: them what it is, instead of my dad having to

451
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Speaker 5: search for his glasses for like twenty minutes. So it's

452
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Speaker 5: not taking away from anyone. You making your company accessible

453
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 5: is making a positive impact on everyone, not.

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Speaker 4: Just people with disabilities.

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Speaker 5: It might just be your grandma that lives next door.

456
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Speaker 5: And I think it's something that's so important and so easy,

457
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Speaker 5: and the disabled community is here to help you, and

458
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Speaker 5: just think about if you were in their shoes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's you're ask to people in general?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, able bodied folks sometimes don't know when

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Speaker 1: to ask questions and when not to When does suggest

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Speaker 1: that they might be able to help, and when it feels,

463
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Speaker 1: you know, like they're stepping on toes. So how do

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Speaker 1: you suggest people best interact with people with various disabilities

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Speaker 1: and make sure that they're being as inclusive as they

466
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Speaker 1: can be without overstepping.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a very fine line of overstepping

468
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Speaker 5: and of just asking for help and being a good human.

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Speaker 5: In my opinion, I can only speak for myself, so

470
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Speaker 5: I don't really know about other disabled people or even

471
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Speaker 5: other people who are visually impaired. But for me, if

472
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Speaker 5: I'm in a store and someone asks me if I

473
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Speaker 5: need help with something, like, I genuinely do appreciate that,

474
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Speaker 5: and I don't feel belittled personally. But there are some

475
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Speaker 5: disabled people that feel like able bodied people don't think

476
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Speaker 5: they're capable and that's why they're asking them.

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Speaker 4: But for me personally.

478
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Speaker 5: I'm like, yes, please, I've been like waiting for someone

479
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Speaker 5: to come help me with this thanklessness.

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Speaker 2: It probably on.

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Speaker 1: Your mood too, the same way as everybody else, Like

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Speaker 1: sometimes I don't want some dude walking up and asking

483
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Speaker 1: if I need help with something heavy and something I

484
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Speaker 1: sure do because you know what, I'm fucking tired and

485
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Speaker 1: it would be great if you would pick that up

486
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Speaker 1: instead of me having to do it exactly.

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Speaker 4: And you're like, you know what, can you actually just

488
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Speaker 4: shop for me? Thanks? But there's also a fine line.

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Speaker 5: I've had people that I ask for help in a

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Speaker 5: store and they'll fully like grab me, and it's like.

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Speaker 4: No, no, you don't have to touch me. I am capable,

492
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Speaker 4: like my dog can.

493
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Speaker 5: Follow you, or like I can grab your arm, but

494
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Speaker 5: there's no reason for you to just come and grab

495
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Speaker 5: me because.

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Speaker 4: We'll get an elbow to the face.

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Speaker 5: Ye, so I think there's a super fine line, but

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Speaker 5: I personally appreciate the help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you found such beautiful ways to spin

500
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Speaker 1: your disability into something educational and funny and inspirational. But

501
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure you still struggle with limitations at times. Is

502
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Speaker 1: there a specific like daily activity or responsibility that most

503
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Speaker 1: gets you frustrated? Like the one thing that you're like,

504
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Speaker 1: this thing is the one that I can't spin into

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Speaker 1: a positive for me.

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Speaker 5: There is so many things that are my normal that

507
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Speaker 5: are not easy to do.

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Speaker 4: Does that make sense for sure?

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Speaker 5: So there's so many things that like, oh, like when

510
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Speaker 5: I wake up in the morning, this is kind of

511
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Speaker 5: how I have to do things versus how an able

512
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Speaker 5: bodied person would do something Like this morning, I went

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Speaker 5: to the gym and I could not figure out how

514
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Speaker 5: to like turn on the treadmill because it's like a

515
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Speaker 5: fully touch screen one and I'm like having a stroke

516
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Speaker 5: over there, and I have to, like face face, I

517
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 5: have to FaceTime my mom to like kind of help

518
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Speaker 5: me figure it out. And what happens when she doesn't

519
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Speaker 5: pick up right? And what happens? Am I just going

520
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Speaker 5: to sit there until she calls me back and like

521
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 5: small things that actually make a difference and make my

522
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Speaker 5: life more difficult.

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Speaker 4: I moved out.

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Speaker 5: I don't live with my parents anymore, so I have

525
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Speaker 5: to be a lot more independent, and I see that

526
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Speaker 5: they're will not see, but I experience things that I'm like, oh, wow,

527
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 5: people like are rude and like they don't care about

528
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Speaker 5: people with disabilities, and like they really will try to

529
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Speaker 5: take advantage of you, and it's really sad.

530
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Speaker 4: But I'm noticing it a lot now that I.

531
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Speaker 5: Don't like live with multiple sided people that can help me.

532
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Speaker 5: So it's definitely different seeing how people will just take

533
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Speaker 5: advantage and you're like, wow, you're a bad person.

534
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredibly frustrating.

535
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Speaker 4: You know.

536
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Speaker 1: One thing, I started listening to this podcast, and there

537
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: was the occasional episode that I thought, oh, I might

538
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: skip this one, and then I would listen anyway, and

539
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: by the end I would think how much I learned

540
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Speaker 1: from understanding someone with a completely different like life perspective

541
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Speaker 1: or struggles or pathologies that I didn't understand and now

542
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Speaker 1: I bet understand. And one of the biggest things I

543
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Speaker 1: learned from that was how often people who do or

544
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Speaker 1: experience things differently, end up discovering new ways of looking

545
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Speaker 1: at things, new ways of doing things, expanding, you know,

546
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Speaker 1: the way that we see the world and the way

547
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: that we interact with it. And I wonder how whether

548
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: it's patience, because now you have to have so much

549
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: patience to do things that we take for granted that

550
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: might take longer or be more difficult for you, or

551
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: whether it's the change in your other senses. Is there

552
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: anything in particular that you really notice that in the

553
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: years since you've lost your sight, you feel like you

554
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: experience the world really differently than most people because of.

555
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Speaker 5: I feel like I definitely don't take things for granted anymore.

556
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people take for granted being

557
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 5: able to just get in their car and go and

558
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 5: do whatever they need to do. Like yesterday, shout out

559
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 5: to Amazon, I want to refund.

560
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 4: I ordered my food.

561
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 5: I ordered like Whole Foods delivered, and they said my

562
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 5: order would be here by four o'clock.

563
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 4: It's four point thirty. I call them. They're like, oh,

564
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 4: it's gonna be here by eight o'clock.

565
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 5: So I'm like, okay, I have to order dinner now.

566
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: Like that suck.

567
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 5: Now, now I have to order dinner that's going to

568
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 5: be more expensive, and then they cancel my order, so

569
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh great, And so I go through that

570
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 5: whole process again today and my food's not coming again

571
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 5: until eight pm.

572
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, now I have to order food again.

573
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 5: And just like small things, And I think, like sympathy

574
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 5: is something that it's gotten better and worse.

575
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: Does that make any sense?

576
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 5: Like people that are complaining about stupid stuff, I'm like.

577
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, are you kidding me?

578
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 5: But then I have more sympathy for people who are

579
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 5: like really struggling and going through things because I know

580
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 5: how it feels. So I feel like it's impacted me

581
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 5: in multiple different ways. But my disability has opened a

582
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 5: lot of doors that I didn't think it would open,

583
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 5: and I'm hoping that I can help someone else out

584
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 5: there and make the world a little more accessible for them.

585
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it certainly affected your perspective. And actually,

586
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: I have so many friends and particularly athletes in the

587
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Paralympic world who have said that they've accomplished way more

588
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: than they ever would have imagined that they might had

589
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: it not been for their accident or their disability. So

590
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: before I let you go, I have to ask, what's

591
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: next for you? What are you working on, what are

592
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: you training for, what are you excited about?

593
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so right now I'm really working on like the

594
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 5: accessibility movement and making things just more inclusive. Right now,

595
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 5: I'm obviously fully dove into the makeup world and like

596
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 5: truly trying to find different things that will make my

597
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 5: life in other people's lives easier, and just accessibility in

598
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 5: general in the world because we deserve that. Right now,

599
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: I'm taking a little break from swimming, which is really nice,

600
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 5: just kind of focusing on me, and I'm currently training

601
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Speaker 5: for a triathlon next year.

602
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Speaker 4: Which cool.

603
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Speaker 2: Nice.

604
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Speaker 1: I have to ask, did you do your makeup today

605
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Speaker 1: or was the boyfriend helping?

606
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 4: I did my makeup today?

607
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: Actually, okay, well looks a million times better than mine.

608
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Speaker 1: So congrats to you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm else and everything else. Thank you so much. I

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Speaker 2: really appreciate you coming on. It was great to talk to.

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00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: Thank you you too. Bye. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to Task for joining us. We have to

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Speaker 2: So get this, y'all. NWSL team.

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Speaker 1: Angel City has officially launched its community funded and community

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Speaker 1: led nonprofit called Angel City Impact, and I'm part of

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Speaker 1: the founding collective alongside people like half of Broad City,

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Speaker 1: Abby Jacobson, other celebs like America Ferrero and Uzzo A Duba,

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Speaker 1: former pro players like Shanade Fairley and Stuart Holden, and

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Speaker 1: philanthropists and business leaders. Now, Angel City Impact is a

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Speaker 1: nonprofit that's aim is to combat the pay to play

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Speaker 1: issue that faces Los Angeles youth. So in the first

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Speaker 1: two years, the goal is to quote launch expanded no

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Speaker 1: cost soccer programming for fourteen thousand girls and gender expansive

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Speaker 1: youth annually ages five to seventeen, across more than one

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Speaker 1: hundred Los Angeles Department of Recreation and Park sites, including

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Speaker 1: seasonal programs, camps, and clinics, and quote to expand the

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Speaker 1: ACFC coach network to recruit, train, and hire a minimum

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Speaker 1: of one hundred and fifty coaches who are representative of

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Speaker 1: the communities in which they're working.

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Speaker 2: End quote.

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Speaker 1: I'm super proud, super excited to join the team and

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Speaker 1: get to work, and we want a democratize community investment

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Speaker 1: while also providing young people access to sport and creating

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Speaker 1: this whole community of Angelino's and just angel City supporters

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Speaker 1: around the world who want to be part of something

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Speaker 1: that's bigger than just a soccer team.

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Speaker 2: So join us. You can get some more info.

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Speaker 1: You can consider donating at Angelcityimpact dot org. Plus you

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Speaker 1: can get access to exclusive merch if you're one of

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Speaker 1: the original donors, so we.

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Speaker 2: All love merch. Now it's your turn rate and review.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, slics, have a fantastic weekend. Good Game Toss,

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Speaker 1: Good Game, Angel City Impact you, lack of affordable childcare

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Speaker 1: for coaches. Good Game with Sarah Spain is an iheartwomen's

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Speaker 1: sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Production by Wonder Media Network,

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Speaker 1: our producers are Alex Azzie and Misha Jones. Our executive

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Speaker 1: producers are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan, and Emily Rudder.

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Speaker 1: Our editors are Emily Rudder, Britney Martinez, Grace Lynch, and

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Speaker 1: Lindsay Cradowell. Production assistant from Lucy Jones and I'm Your

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Speaker 1: Host Sarah Spain