WEBVTT - The Fingerprint [6] 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:04.920 Welcome to Monster DC Sniper, a production of iHeartRadio and 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:08.560 Tenderfoot TV. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.120 are solely those of the podcast author or individuals participating 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.080 in the podcast, and do not represent those of iHeartMedia, 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:19.680 Tenderfoot TV, or their employees. Listener discretion is advised. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.160 Ten days before shots were fired in Maryland, the first 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.160 victims of the serial Sniper may have been eight hundred 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:33.360 miles south of the Washington Beltway. 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:39.960 September twenty first, two thousand and two, Montgomery, Alabama. 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:42.640 It all started with a call that had gone out 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.640 in relation to a robbery at the liquor store. My 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.120 name is James Gray Boyce. I currently am the chief 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:54.160 of Police at Alabama State University. At that time, I 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:58.840 was a lieutenant with the Montgomery Police Department. I started 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.720 rolling towards that air when I heard the call go out. 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.160 Originally it had been reported as a robbery, so it 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.480 wasn't until I started responding seeing that I learned that 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:14.160 it actually was a robbery with a homicide. When I 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.120 responded to the area, it really was chaotic. You have 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:21.560 so many people running around. One individual was a security 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:25.520 guard who ran up to my car and started pointing 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.560 down an alleyway and started talking about the suspect running 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.759 in that direction. So I basically drove down that alleyway, 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.000 and that was when I actually ended up running into 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.399 one of the suspects in the case. I saw a 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.560 person running as if they were running away, and I 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.559 basically hollered at him to stop. He actually doubles back 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:50.880 and then starts jumping fences. I'd get out of my 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.880 car chase the subject on foot. The problem with fences 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.080 is that when somebody goes over a fence, you can't 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.600 just blindly go over the fence because they could be 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.360 waiting on the other side to ambush you. You have 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.880 to at least slow down and stop and make sure 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:06.360 you're clear. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:08.239 All of that slows you down. 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.640 Unfortunately, it's a residential area, so you can't just start 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.600 shooting to try to hit somebody running from you because 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.480 one of your rounds could go into a house. So 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.680 you really have to keep trying to catch up to 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:24.840 the person. The guy was in great shape, he was 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.079 very very fast, and he was really getting very far 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:34.800 ahead of me. Unfortunately I lost sight of him and 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.720 we basically just start saturating the area and started looking 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:38.400 for the subject. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.640 There is a ruthless person on the loose. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.239 What I nerves this community the most is the randomness 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:50.080 of the murders, ordinary people doing ordinary things. They killed 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.680 the five people in one day and then went on 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:54.720 the rampage for the next month. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:56.160 It is quite a mystery. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.720 The police say they have never had a crime quite 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.160 like this. Beekare these guys are using weapons that are 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.920 going to go right straight through our bulletproof vests. 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:13.480 From iHeartRadio and Tenderfoot TV. This is monster DC sniper. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.799 After the Ponderosa shooting, the task force was following a 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.760 lead from a note they'd found in the woods. The 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.960 note mentioned a call to Officer Derek Beliles. Belliles had 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.280 received a strange phone call. The caller said he knew 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.760 who the snipers were, and then asked Beliles to look 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.240 up a liquor store robbery that took place in Montgomery, Alabama. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.640 Investigators learned that a shooting had occurred there on September 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:46.360 twenty first, ten days before the attacks began in DC. 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.640 That night, when officers arrived at the crime scene, they 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:55.000 chased after a suspect but couldn't catch him. Michael Myrick 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:56.800 was the police lieutenant in charge. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.640 I was on call and received notice that a shooting 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:03.720 had heard on Zelda Road outside of the ABC Liquor store. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.160 The two employees were locking up the store when it 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:11.400 was believed a robbery took place. Miss Kelly Adams was 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.280 one of the cashier's clerks. This was her job, is 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.279 how she was paying the bills and getting through life 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.560 and starting life with a new husband and a new baby. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.320 She was locking up the store for the night and 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.240 they have a little checklist on their clipboard. Miss Adams 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.960 said that everything was like clockwork and as she was 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.039 closing the store, they both had to exit at the 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.600 same time. Claudian Parker was the business manager and as 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.920 they were waiting outside, Miss Adams was behind Miss Parker. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:41.920 Miss Parker was turning the keys in the door, and 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.400 Miss Adams said she did not hear anything, but she 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.440 felt like she was electrocuted. She said, I even thought 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:51.000 I was tased. I just felt this flash of electricity 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.880 run through me. She was shot directly underneath the jaw 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.919 line from the left side, and the projectile just caused 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.680 massive tissue damage to the skin and neck underneath her 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:06.480 jaw and the jaw itself. The projectile most certainly proceeded 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.719 through her body and struck the window next to the 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.880 door and shattered that window. She said, then I fell 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.719 to the ground, And then she said, I don't know 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.440 what happened to Claudine. 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:20.200 What happened. 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.600 Miss Clauding Parker would have most likely seen Kelly shot. 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.160 We don't know if she went down to try to 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.480 help her or anything. However, we are certain that she 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.920 would have backed up and backed away from what was happening. 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.880 And if she's backing away, she's actually behind one of 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:40.159 the pillars of the business. She's actually protected by that pillar. 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:40.880 Well. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.880 As she continued to back up, she moves out of 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.680 the line of sight of the pillar, and then she 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:54.040 is shot in the shoulder blade. It caused massive damage 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:58.480 when the bullet exploded inside her body and she collapsed immediately. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.760 We know that Miss Parker did not crawl, did not move, 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.760 She did not get up and run. Because of the 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.479 damage to her vertebrae that the fragmentation caused, she was 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:13.000 unable to even breathe on her own. Later, Miss Adams 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:17.360 looked up and she said she saw very slender, skinny 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:22.680 black legs. She said the person was wearing shorts, standing 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:27.040 above me, pointing a gun at my head, a small 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:33.200 silver revolver, and Miss Adams does not remember much after that, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.479 but she said the person just left, just ran off. 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.000 Kelly Adams, the store clerk, survived the attack. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.719 The bullet went in right here, skirted across there, and came. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:49.640 Out in front of my face. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:55.640 The store manager, Claudine Parker, wasn't as lucky as Clauding. 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.520 Parker was the immediately taken to Jackson Hospital, which is 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:03.120 the nearest hospital there, and she died in surgery. From 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.279 what we gathered from her family, she was a very 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.120 very good athlete. She was a semi pro tennis player 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.360 at one point. Unfortunately, she was in her last pay 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.320 period before she was going to retire and become the 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.600 tennis coach at Alabama State University, and she was planning 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.559 on doing that the next month before she was killed. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.400 I felt very sorry for the families. This was the 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.360 shooting that just continued to haunt them. I mean, Miss 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.480 Adams has had I believe, over twenty surgeries to repair 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.400 just continued infections and just continued problems that she's had. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:41.000 The Parker family is always reminded that their loved one 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:50.880 is gone. This particular scene was atypical in the sense 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.680 that had occurred right when two police officers were on 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:58.040 routine patrol. They actually heard the gunshots, tried to locate 0:07:58.080 --> 0:07:59.800 where they were coming from, and then they saw the 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.680 two victims and they immediately pulled the patrol car to 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.600 where the two victims were on the ground, and our 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:09.160 patrol officers saw a young blackmail with a medium afro. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.520 He was behind one of the pillars of the business, 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.400 rummaging going through a purse. As they pulled into the 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.920 parking lot from the trafficway, the subject looked at them 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.880 from behind the pillar and took off running. One of 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.040 our officers stayed with the victims and the second officer 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.360 engaged in foot pursuit. The subject running dropped what was 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.760 later determined to be an armalit gun catalog. He pursued 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.320 him went over the fence as a gated complex, and 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:36.920 he chased him as far as he could until he 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.960 was out of sight, and then multiple units responding trying 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.120 to locate the subject that was running, but were unable 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:48.240 to do so. That subject, then we know later had 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.199 to have come out in a particular area. An eyewitness 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.400 citizen saw the subject, this young blackmail, getting into the 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.559 back of a caprice. That caprice then drove out of 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.440 the area. But because the subject got into the back 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.360 of the caprice, we knew we had a driver, so 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:07.240 we had a second subject. I was dispatched to the 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.920 scene as the case agent. Most of the time, by 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.120 the time the homicide unit is called in or members 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.880 of the scene is secured, they're just kind of waiting 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.120 for us to do our initials. We need to get 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.199 into witness interviews, and we need to start located in 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.319 evidence that is not just in plain sight. One of 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.320 the things that I saw when I arrived on scene 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:28.920 was the significant, significant blood trail from where the victim 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.600 was being treated, So I knew this was not just 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.240 a typical shooting, just from the way the scene was. 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:41.080 Kelly Adams, the surviving victim, said she had seen someone 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:46.240 standing over her with a silver revolver, but strangely, her 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:47.559 wounds hadn't come from a. 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.760 Handgun entirely, too much tissue damage for that to be 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.600 a handgun. A handgun fire is a heavy bullet. It 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.719 does not have a lot of horsepower as opposed to 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.840 a rifle where your velocity is such an issue. So 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.839 when we saw the injuries to Kelly adams jawline, all 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.520 the massive damage underneath her neck where she was shot, 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.079 a handgun projectile does not do that. 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:13.760 By examining the wounds and bullet fragments, investigators determined that 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.400 the shots had come from a rifle. But that wasn't 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.040 the only odd thing about the case. Lieutenant Myrick says, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.600 the crime just didn't make sense as a robbery. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.840 There was no need for this type of violence for 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.080 the Knight deposit in any business, point your gun, demand 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.319 the property, get the property, flee the scene. So that 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.080 immediately was odd to us. And also, the ABC Liquor 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:39.360 store was a state run liquor store and they did 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:43.280 not get robbed. They made a policy that they secured 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.280 the Knight's deposit and is safe. They did not want 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.720 the employees to leave the business with any amount of cash. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.360 Bottom line to that is, the ABC stores just did 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:56.000 not get robbed. So for someone to rob the employees 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.040 as they closed, coupled with the fact that you were 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.960 right by the interstate, we just knew that wasn't a 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.520 typical local offender. We were just trying to find any 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.760 possible lead we could, as in any case this gets 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.360 into homicide one oh one. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:10.560 Here we had. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.480 A couple of people turn in folks they were mad 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.040 at That always happens. You get a lot of folks 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.200 who provide information that they believe is helpful. It's just 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.760 inaccurate information, and we would pursue those interviews, but they 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.440 of course led us to nothing. We had no local 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.960 leads at all within the first you know, forty eight 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:32.199 to seventy two hours, just nothing at all. 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:36.600 But what officers did have was evidence like the ArmaLite 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.200 gun catalog the suspect had dropped during the chase. It 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.679 was a magazine full of information about rifles and firearm accessories. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:49.840 We recovered thirty six usable identifiable fingerprints within the gun catalog, 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.720 and we have a fingerprint on a brown paper bag 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.120 from the liquor store that is all with the same 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.800 fingerprint person. We just don't know who it is. You 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.439 run your fingerprints local, you run your fingerprints through the 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.080 state system, you run your fingerprints through a regional system. 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.640 That's just the progression. It takes four hours to get 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.079 a fingerprint hit, not something that flashes up on the 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.240 screen in seconds, as TV shows indicate, and when we 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.800 did not get any hits, they ran them through the 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:20.559 national system and still receiving a negative identification, as it's 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.960 called a negative ID. When you start doing that, you're 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.040 generally thinking that this is someone who's either a never 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.320 been fingerprinted or b is a juvenile. The fingerprints are 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:37.360 not in these adult systems. We thought, well, if that 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.559 was a juvenile, this could have been somebody who just 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.679 simply came in off the interstate committed this robbery. They 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.559 are juveniles, so they're not in the system, and we 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.959 really have a tough case. We really have something that's 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:49.880 going to be very difficult to solve. Locally. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:56.000 The case had gone cold, but soon there'd be an 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:01.160 unexpected break in both the Alabama shooting and the DC 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:26.600 sniper case. A month now had passed since the Alabama shooting, 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.720 and the case was still cold up in DC. Investigators 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.160 were now two and a half weeks into their hunt 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:37.320 for the snipers, and retired Montgomery County Police Commander Drew 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.400 Tracy worried they weren't making progress fast enough. 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.360 My day was I was up three point thirty in 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.320 the morning. I grabbed something, probably a protein smoothie, and 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.680 then I'm driving because I have to give a briefing 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.000 at five am in the morning, and I remember grabbing 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.640 a Washington Post and it was talking about several serial 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:00.000 killings and how long it took. You know, son of Sam. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.400 I think it took months to catch him, and he 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.640 was providing information on a regular basis. And then you 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.480 had the BTK killer and he wasn't caught at that time. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.320 I think the Green River killer was just caught. And 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.520 I looked at the period of time it takes to 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.480 catch some of these individuals, and I said, we can't 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.480 sustain this, and it got my head saying, you know, 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.080 we got to push with everything we got because we 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.640 don't know how long these resources are going to last. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.040 I mean, we had close to four hundred FBI agents 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:31.480 assisting us atf We had local law enforcement, We had volunteers, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.040 We had people we were telling the stand in front 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.360 of our school systems that could be victims. We had 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.440 helicopter pilots. We had a lot of things going. And 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.440 I know there's a limitation to that. So all these 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.160 things had kind of taken heavy weight on the task 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:47.480 force and people involved. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:55.040 Drew Tracy was exhausted from working overtime, but motivated, motivated 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.720 to catch the snipers before resources ran out, motivated to 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:04.680 prevent any more sense shootings, and motivated by a promising lead. 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.800 After the task force had learned about the sniper's call 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:13.400 to Officer Derek Belliles, Drew Tracy was assigned to investigate 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:13.840 that lead. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.600 I actually called Montgomery, Alabama myself, and I asked if 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:23.080 I could speak to one of the detectives involved, Johnny Benson. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.600 I'm sitting at the house on a Sunday afternoon watching 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:29.520 the NASCAR race as everybody does here, and I get 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:33.200 a call from someone from the Sniper Task Force. One 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.800 of the units within that task force had followed a 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.240 lead that would be snipers called the Montgomery County PIO 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.640 officer and said that they did the shooting on Ann 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.080 Street in Alabama. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.880 So I remember talking to the detective. I wanted to 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.720 get a good feel for were these individuals who called, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.840 are they really involved or is it just something to 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.920 just throw us off track? And he told me it 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.680 was a robbery. So a little bit of the wind 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.080 was coming out of my sales because every one of 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.320 the situations we had in Maryland Virginia and Washington c 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.120 was not a robbery. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.680 What's so intriguing to me is that they said the 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:15.400 shooting was on Ann Street. And I said, Ann Street 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.680 is the exit from which you exit the interstate. That's 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.240 the Ann Street exit. However, at the bottom of that exit, 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.680 if you turn left, you're on Zelda Road. I said, 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.400 there would be no way that someone in town would 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.040 attribute that shooting to Anne Street. That was actually on 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.240 Zelda Road. Everybody knows Anne Street and everybody knows Zelda Road. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.040 I asked if there was any evidence in the case, 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.320 you know, ballistics and everything else. He says, the only 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.920 thing we have is a magazine. And I said, a magazine, 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.440 you mean magazine from a weapon. He goes a paper 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.560 magazine and he says, and this is where it went. 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.240 Clicked with me, just like that, and I said, oh 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.800 my god, we might have something here. He said it 0:16:54.840 --> 0:17:00.200 was an armor light catalog. Well, for my training, you know, 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.440 from being on SWAT, I knew what armor light was. 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.000 They produced things that you could put on your rifle, 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:10.159 you know, armor light ar. They sell stuff for an 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.719 AR fifteen and make r fifteens. So when I heard that, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.359 we got an FBI agent from Mobile, Alabama to grab 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.199 that catalog. 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:22.600 Especially to Margaret Faulkner, came and gathered the information from 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.280 our case. Some of the events then transported up to 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.439 the Sniper task Force, and Margaret Faulkner, being at the 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.280 task force, she said, have we ran these fingerprints? Have 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.639 we ran them in every known database federal or otherwise. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.320 FBI in Washington, d C. Did a more thorough search 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:44.240 because they have access to bigger databases for fingerprints. 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.800 They ran it through every alphabet soup database that they 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.200 had and when they sat down, they said, well, the 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.200 only one that we have not run it through was 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.399 I in S and they said, let's run them through irons. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:58.600 And that's when we got a hit on a fingerprint. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.280 The FBI found a match for the fingerprints from the 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:06.760 Alabama crime scene unexpectedly in a database run by the 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.440 Immigration and Naturalization Service. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:14.359 Or i INS, and that print was for Lee Boyd 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:19.560 Malvo and he was seventeen years old. This is Linda Hooper. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:24.160 I was a supervisory special agent of the FBI at 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.560 the time of the Sniper investigation, and so I asked 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:32.920 the fingerprint lab, did you run that print for driver's licenses. 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.240 I figured, seventeen, the guy probably has a driver's license. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.719 He said, yeah. We ran him in every state. He 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:43.320 doesn't have a driver's license. The only thing we could 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:47.240 come up with was that he was referenced and ANS 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:51.080 file out of Tacoma, Washington. Well, as soon as we 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.439 found out that his name was referenced in ANS file, 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.199 we went to IF and we had them pull the 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.879 file so we could see what was in it. 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.520 It turned out that Lee Boyd Malvo, the seventeen year 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.520 old whose fingerprints had been found on the gun catalog 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:12.000 in Alabama, was originally from Jamaica. Malvo had been fingerprinted 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.960 in Washington State in December two thousand and one, when 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:20.159 he and his mother, Una James were arrested. Lee Boyd 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.720 Malvo had been staying at a homeless shelter with a 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:27.320 forty year old man named John Mohammed. Police were called 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:31.359 when Malvo's mother, Una James, got into an argument with John. 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.360 She'd showed up at the shelter and said John had 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.439 kidnapped her son. Because Mohammed was not related to Malvo, 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:43.760 police returned him to Una. However, when neither Una or 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:47.920 Lee Boyd Malvo could provide any sort of identification. Police 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.680 contacted Border patrol and the mother and son were arrested 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:56.720 on suspicion of having entered the country illegally. Now ten 0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:01.760 months later, the fingerprints from Malvo's arrested Washington State match 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:06.240 the ones from the Alabama crime scene. Here's retired Montgomery 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.200 Police Lieutenant Michael Myrick again. 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.440 How did Lee Malville from an i ins arrest in Tacoma, 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.960 Washington connect to a shooting in Montgomery, Alabama with a 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.320 rifle off of the Beltway, which is what they have 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.240 in d C. How's all that happening. We have a lead, 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.480 we can at least solve one case in Alabama from 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.000 this information. Is that going to be connected to the 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:29.560 sniper shooting. I've got no idea if that's the situation 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:33.240 at all. Well, at the same time, a man in Tacoma, 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:37.159 Washington called the task force and he said that he 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.560 had had a friend that had left the area that 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:45.359 was a very militant person, very upset with his domestic situation. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.040 And he says the guy was very dangerous. He described 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.280 as just being very very unhappy with life. And he 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.040 said it just bothers me that all this is happening. 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:01.639 My friend's ex wife lives in the DC area. His 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:02.879 name's John Mohammad. 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:08.119 The tip was about a man named John Muhammad, the 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.920 same name as the man involved in the custody dispute 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.280 over Lee Boyd Malvie, and the tipster had called from 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.480 Washington State, where Lee Boyd Malvau was arrested. 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.480 He says, nothing for nothing, but I'm just you know, 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.240 I just want to let y'all know. Don't want to 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:25.240 sit on this information. And he said he left with 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.560 an AR fifteen Bushmaster rifle. 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.040 And he mentions how it was extremely important to John 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:36.120 Muhammad to get a silencer for an AR style weapon, 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:40.639 and that he had a young man with him that 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:42.040 he called sniper. 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.160 And he said they talked about snipers and they played 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.120 sniper games. And he said, you know, I just want 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.080 to pass his information on. Well, now we had a 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.600 very very clear suspect to pursue by name. 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:13.520 Investigators now had two strong suspects, Lee Boyd Malvo and 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:17.640 John Muhammad. In Malvo's case, the letter the snipers left 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:21.880 outside the Ponderosa had led investigators to Derek Beliles, who 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:26.000 in turn directed them to the Alabama shooting and fingerprints 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:30.280 from that crime scene matched Lee Boyd Malva. They'd come 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:34.080 across John Muhammad's name from two different directions. The i 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:37.760 S report connected Mohammed to Malvo, and then his name 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.720 came up again on a tip line call. Drew Tracy 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:45.359 was a trained sniper himself, so he wasn't surprised that 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.680 there could be two suspects working together. 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:52.000 Back in nineteen eighty three, I first became involved as 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.600 a SWAT team member and one of the most important 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:59.000 pieces of the training in a vital part was going 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.440 to Sniper observe school. And it's two words, a sniper 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.359 and an observer. So you're trained as a marksman and 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.840 you're also trained as an observer. Your main job being 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:11.760 a sniper observer is observing. You have to put yourself 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.359 in a position you're not seen. You have to utilize 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:18.119 a different type of optics, and you have to provide good, 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:22.800 steady and specific information to your team. And the reasoning 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:26.480 for a team aspect and deployment is you can't constantly 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:28.880 be behind the optics of a gun for an extended 0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:31.520 period of time, so you want to have two trained 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:35.000 people that would exchange positions. One could be the observer 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:38.160 while the other one sets up their rifle so they're 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:39.600