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Speaker 2: right after a late night last night. And congratulations the
Speaker 2: Cowboys won a championship last night. Album of the Year
Speaker 2: cowboy Carter?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Ever Sin, did you know that I did not say
Speaker 2: cowboy Carter?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you know. That's so you got me because
Speaker 4: I didn't know you said.
Speaker 2: You just said that you did not watch the Grammy?
Speaker 4: Well you and my daughter. Man, she's a bee high.
Speaker 4: But whatever they call those people, I'm gonna speak, haven't
Speaker 4: seen her, those young individuals.
Speaker 3: Her video riding the white horse.
Speaker 2: Come on, I didn't see none of that, you know anyway.
Speaker 2: So a championship won by the Cowboys, that's right. Anything
Speaker 2: else going on?
Speaker 3: Well, Cowboys, this was funny. The stars game started at
Speaker 3: five pm.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, you saw the casket outside the AAC yesterday.
Speaker 3: I did see that. But the guy that started the
Speaker 3: Stars broadcast says, well, we've got uh a big deal
Speaker 3: to talk about because the Stars traded for two veterans, right,
Speaker 3: and I think it was Harper.
Speaker 2: No, no, it would have been.
Speaker 4: It was not.
Speaker 3: I mean Darryl, Darryl Ray Ray Darryl goes, yeah, not
Speaker 3: as big as the big one.
Speaker 4: He just up.
Speaker 3: This guy was going to just go by it like, oh,
Speaker 3: the Stars traded for yeah.
Speaker 4: Bring don't don't bring that up now. I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as big as the big one.
Speaker 2: I got one question, who's the most despised general manager?
Speaker 4: You're going to try it? They said the torch had passed.
Speaker 3: Jerry's off the book.
Speaker 4: Jerry's having a cigar somewhere, like I can relax now,
Speaker 4: all right?
Speaker 2: So uh okay, when did you When did you find
Speaker 2: out about it? And we're talking about the Luca trade
Speaker 2: that Lakers for those For some reason, I was up
Speaker 2: late Saturday night. I didn't find out about it until
Speaker 2: Sunday morning. I went to bed early, didn't check Twitter
Speaker 2: or anything early. By being a little poor midnight, the
Speaker 2: trade had happened went up before I went to bed
Speaker 2: on Saturday night. Yeah, but I did and check Twitter
Speaker 2: or anything. And I wake up at seven point thirty
Speaker 2: on Sunday morning, where the text for my daughter? Is
Speaker 2: this real?
Speaker 4: What can't be real? Yeah? No, I was April first.
Speaker 4: I had just come from my brother in law's seventieth
Speaker 4: birthday party. We did a big shindou for him with
Speaker 4: Hotels Azau. So we'll come back. Yeah, we're coming back
Speaker 4: and here comes. You know, I got the kids, I
Speaker 4: got my wife in the car and my son's reading.
Speaker 4: He goes, no, no, like what you know. They're all
Speaker 4: into the you know, media and all of that stuff.
Speaker 4: So they're trying to check different Instagram. They're checking everything.
Speaker 4: I said. If Adam Shefter says it, then I believe it.
Speaker 4: So but you know, he had nothing to do with There.
Speaker 2: Are fake Adam Schefter accounts too.
Speaker 4: We were worried about all of that, all of that,
Speaker 4: so all the way home, we're still confused, like, okay,
Speaker 4: what does this mean. I mean, we had our own
Speaker 4: mix shots in the car. What does this mean for
Speaker 4: the mass I don't know, but it's pretty good working
Speaker 4: on for the mask. You know you got a big man.
Speaker 4: What about leblond? What's he gonna do? So, yeah, we
Speaker 4: got a little round table going on the way home
Speaker 4: on seventy five shocking.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember why I was up. Oh I
Speaker 3: had to go to the airport.
Speaker 4: I thought, you're gonna says no, I don't have to
Speaker 4: do that. The bed It's like, okay.
Speaker 2: So one of the first things I thought of was
Speaker 2: where was I when I heard about the herschel Walker trade.
Speaker 2: I mean this, it's been called the most stunning trade,
Speaker 2: the biggest trade in NBA history, and in Dallas for
Speaker 2: Dallas area, in Dallas Fort Worth history.
Speaker 4: For the Cowboys. That's saying a lot.
Speaker 2: The herschel Walker trade. I mean we thought it would
Speaker 2: never be matched. And now the mascot tru.
Speaker 4: What about the firing of Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 2: Well, but I'm talking about a trade, Okay, I'm just
Speaker 2: talking about a trade, and.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about sports news, right, trade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nico Harrison told Jerry Jones, hold my beer.
Speaker 4: I'm going to top you. I'm gonna one up you.
Speaker 3: But he can only hope that this trade, somehow, some way.
Speaker 2: Turns out like the herschel Walker.
Speaker 3: But it can't because he didn't get anything back ye
Speaker 3: or enough the herschel Walker traded.
Speaker 2: That was the key on it. But when you go
Speaker 2: back and look at the herschel Walker trade, because people
Speaker 2: now thirty five years later look at Herschel's career and
Speaker 2: it was a nice career in the NFL. But in fact,
Speaker 2: with my son in laws, I've got to explain they
Speaker 2: weren't born yet. They were born about the same time
Speaker 2: that the herschel Walker trade occurred. So I got to
Speaker 2: go inform them of, Okay, this is how big, this
Speaker 2: is how big herschel Walker was. And even have to
Speaker 2: remind myself that in nineteen eighty eight with the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: herschel Walker had a sea fifty, over fifteen hundred yards
Speaker 2: rush and over five hundred yards receiving. He had over
Speaker 2: two thousand yards from scrimmage in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3: Yes, Mickey for a three and thirteen team, not one
Speaker 3: that went to the NBA.
Speaker 2: Right, But his stature was that he was the one
Speaker 2: thing that the Cowboys had at Everson.
Speaker 4: That's what they said too. I'm sorry that was the
Speaker 4: laugh that I heard Minnesota.
Speaker 2: And so the feeling in Minnesota was this is putting
Speaker 2: them over the top. Oh yeah, and so right in hindsight,
Speaker 2: in hindsight, now right exactly.
Speaker 4: But and so the news alone, the news was still right.
Speaker 2: They did what they traded Herschel Walker for these five guys,
Speaker 2: and it was the draft picks associated And.
Speaker 3: Then we found out a couple of days later what
Speaker 3: the trade really was. I wonder if Luca got paid
Speaker 3: two million dollars wardrobe illness like.
Speaker 2: Herschel Herschel did.
Speaker 4: He didn't use it.
Speaker 3: Will because he didn't have any He said, he didn't
Speaker 3: have any winter clothes.
Speaker 4: Us at all. Sorry, you always had a little dressing
Speaker 4: cond there never came in.
Speaker 3: There's got to be more to this than they're talking about.
Speaker 2: More than more than basketball.
Speaker 4: Yes, more than just the more than just more than that.
Speaker 3: How about three hundred and forty five million reasons which
Speaker 3: was going to be his max extension. The didn't want
Speaker 3: to pay it.
Speaker 2: They okay, it wasn't that then, it wasn't that they
Speaker 2: couldn't pay.
Speaker 4: They didn't want to pay. Exactly, they can.
Speaker 5: They could use that money you need, because you wouldn't
Speaker 5: need to under And the other thing is, and I
Speaker 5: brought it up last night, is they've you're starting their
Speaker 5: own regional sports network and they don't have that forty
Speaker 5: five to fifty million dollars coming in.
Speaker 2: Well, keep in mind that Miriam Edelson. Yeah, there's the
Speaker 2: owner of the Mavericks now who owns sixty eight percent
Speaker 2: of the team. She is the worth thirty two billion dollars.
Speaker 2: It wasn't so she's the fifty third richest person in
Speaker 2: the world. And so it's not like they can't afford
Speaker 2: Luca's three hundred and forty five million dollar contract. That
Speaker 2: he would be eligible for the Supermax contract after this year.
Speaker 2: There is a reason that they think that they are
Speaker 2: better suited now without Luca and with.
Speaker 3: The money available because there is somewhat of a salary
Speaker 3: cap in the NBA right. The other thing is he
Speaker 3: also had to opt out after one year, so after the.
Speaker 2: Next season he could become a free agent and they
Speaker 2: could get nothing better.
Speaker 3: And they're saying that there was a lot of teams
Speaker 3: already doing their homework to throw money at him.
Speaker 2: So this was the time, But this was the time
Speaker 2: to train. If you're going to trade him, this was
Speaker 2: the time to do it.
Speaker 4: And so once again, why are you looking at that option?
Speaker 4: Other than you're talking money, than.
Speaker 3: That and the other thing. I don't want it. I
Speaker 3: don't want to hear is uh, defense wins championships. Not
Speaker 3: in the NBA. Boston didn't win because they played good defense.
Speaker 3: They scored, couldn't stop him from scoring.
Speaker 2: Well, But one of the reasons was they just blew
Speaker 2: past Luca.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, yeah, he could, but everybody else you
Speaker 3: got beat up at that point.
Speaker 4: I gotta yeah, I'm going to challenge you on that one.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think anybody wins in the NBA with defense.
Speaker 4: I think yeah, I think just like any any other sport,
Speaker 4: defense has its place. And if you have a team
Speaker 4: that has that culture, that type of a defense, such
Speaker 4: as the Boston Celtics that that they were playing well
Speaker 4: last year, I would have to beg to different with
Speaker 4: here on that one. SPACs. Uh, you gotta have some
Speaker 4: type of a team concept when it comes to defense.
Speaker 3: Overall, no one's playing defense.
Speaker 4: Everybody they're playing defense. They're playing defense. And I know
Speaker 4: you you probably sound like some old Bill Walton or
Speaker 4: something like that. Right, I'm gonna let you have it,
Speaker 4: but I'll say I'll say this, and you need at
Speaker 4: some point have some difference of defensive prowess on your team.
Speaker 4: You have to have some type of philosophy on your team. Uh,
Speaker 4: in regards to each player having to play his role
Speaker 4: on team defense. Luca was never that guy. And it's
Speaker 4: not just the defense itself. We're talking about his his
Speaker 4: physical ability. You could see every time that Luca plays.
Speaker 4: It's the reason that he's got this look on his face.
Speaker 4: He's he feels like he looks like he's got high
Speaker 4: blood pressure out there on the on the court. You know,
Speaker 4: he looks like he's tired all the time except when
Speaker 4: he gets the ball in his hand. And that's just
Speaker 4: the way Luca has always played. That's a you You've
Speaker 4: had that go on in the NFL, NBA for quite
Speaker 4: some time. Well, you got guys that just don't play
Speaker 4: good defense. His was so out there. It was so
Speaker 4: easy to see, especially during those critical moments in the
Speaker 4: championship when they needed someone to play defense. He could
Speaker 4: not do that.
Speaker 3: There were other guys out there, I know, but.
Speaker 4: You still got to cover your area, but you still
Speaker 4: got cold.
Speaker 3: Look at the point totals Boston had.
Speaker 2: But when you look at the makeup of the Celtics
Speaker 2: team and By the way, they have two players who
Speaker 2: are three hundred million dollar players in Jason Tatum.
Speaker 3: And Jaylen Brown, and they were able.
Speaker 2: To take advantage of Luca's deficiency.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I stunk the whole series.
Speaker 4: No he did not. Yes, I intensively he did not.
Speaker 3: And don't tell me.
Speaker 4: What are you talking about, bro, Mary, what do you
Speaker 4: talking about?
Speaker 3: The greatest players in the NBA.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go back over this whole thing about the
Speaker 4: black running back thing again. We gotta go to all
Speaker 4: of this. I don't know what. You don't don't have
Speaker 4: to there you go, good job, Yeah, good job.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Now he's there, he's with us.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, baby, I did they go. Man, we can
Speaker 4: talk all this.
Speaker 2: Later on this defense win championships in the super Bowl
Speaker 2: this week.
Speaker 3: Better score points.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta score points, but you also have to
Speaker 4: stop people from scoring points. So if we see that
Speaker 4: which you know we see, you can see it doing
Speaker 4: a game. You saw it doing the championship game. There's
Speaker 4: a little bit of defense played, and it was played
Speaker 4: doing crucial moments of the game. You don't have to play,
Speaker 4: you don't have to be shut down. Nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 4: Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: Uncha City Chiefs are a great example.
Speaker 4: They are a good example. They they win the moment,
Speaker 4: they win the critical moment.
Speaker 2: Having said that, uh, they're not going to trade Patrick.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not. Ratchet Mahomes is not gonna go
Speaker 4: anywhere because he's doing his job all the way around.
Speaker 3: For an injured thirty two year old man.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, by the way, who's an injured thirty two.
Speaker 3: Years Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2: He missed the last couple of games, and he's had
Speaker 2: injury history.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's come off of that and this is free
Speaker 4: the last two years.
Speaker 3: This is for the future. So when he said the future,
Speaker 3: it was money to be spent in the future.
Speaker 2: Specified no, but he specified that the future for him
Speaker 2: is three to four years. Yeah, right, and better Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2: Here's here's what I last.
Speaker 4: Two years, Anthony Davis has hardly missed any games because
Speaker 4: of injury. Now you talk about they call him, uh, well,
Speaker 4: they call him street clothes because he was always dressing
Speaker 4: street clothes. That was three years ago. Two years ago,
Speaker 4: he stopped doing that. This year he hadn't really been
Speaker 4: injured much at all, and he has carried the load
Speaker 4: for the Lakers. You're gonna be in that's with this
Speaker 4: young man when he gets it.
Speaker 2: Twenty five points and twelve rebounds.
Speaker 4: Real stuff. He's playing his ass off.
Speaker 3: He better be playing he got well.
Speaker 2: I do think it's interesting from a general manager slash
Speaker 2: ownership position with the Mavericks and the owners that on
Speaker 2: the Sam's Hotel in Vegas, they are putting all their
Speaker 2: chips in Anthony Davis in the next few years because
Speaker 2: to your point, what they are not getting back in
Speaker 2: this trade are the draft picks that you usually will
Speaker 2: get back in a trade for a generational.
Speaker 3: Player twenty nine, and that is.
Speaker 2: Not something that they even look at as a pick
Speaker 2: that they will use themselves. The value the value of
Speaker 2: those picks in the NBA are to use as trade
Speaker 2: commodities and to where you can make other moves. So basically,
Speaker 2: they are putting all their chips in on now because
Speaker 2: what you would have if you sign Luca to the
Speaker 2: long term Supermax deal, you would have him to be
Speaker 2: able to use eventually to restock your team once this
Speaker 2: window of opportunity might be up. And now the window
Speaker 2: of opportunity is as long as Anthony davis career is.
Speaker 2: Basically right now, and he's third going on thirty two
Speaker 2: years old this month.
Speaker 4: You imagine the size that they have right now.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the other thing that's happening in the NBA.
Speaker 2: When you look at the team that they lost to
Speaker 2: yesterday because they didn't play anybody yesterday, but.
Speaker 3: That was the league team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly who was Kelly? He was signed last week,
Speaker 2: Kyler Kelly, and he started yesterday. But if you look
Speaker 2: at the makeup of the Cavaliers, who have the best
Speaker 2: record in the league right now, forty at nine, they
Speaker 2: got yep, and that's what the.
Speaker 4: Big guy that going.
Speaker 3: So they must be thinking that Kyrie Irving can handle.
Speaker 2: But they know I think one of the keys too
Speaker 2: is making this move three or four days before the
Speaker 2: trade deadline is because they're not According to Nico Harrison
Speaker 2: and Jason Kidd, this is an enhancement to try to
Speaker 2: win it all this year in the next three to
Speaker 2: four years they've got They've got three days now. The
Speaker 2: trade deadline is Thursday afternoon, and they got to make
Speaker 2: a move to get another scoring You.
Speaker 4: Know, you know when you have when you're standing up
Speaker 4: there waiting on something, you got all kind of elbow room.
Speaker 4: Well you got no more elbow room. Houston's over here
Speaker 4: San Antonio.
Speaker 2: By the way, he just required Aaron Fox last night.
Speaker 4: They just come on.
Speaker 2: St and you got the thunder up the road that they.
Speaker 4: Beat them, don't Okay, okay, I hope that's the way.
Speaker 3: What do they have? Like eight losses, three of them
Speaker 3: are to the Mavericks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so far? All right?
Speaker 3: Okay, you want to get the Cowboys. Michael Parsons better
Speaker 3: be careful. Yeah, I said, Michael Parsons better be careful.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're gonna get rid of him too. Huh.
Speaker 3: If if you could trade Luke, better watch out.
Speaker 4: So do you think the coffin was a little bit
Speaker 4: too much?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just know that you know how much guy's dressed.
Speaker 2: They know they know the way. Yeah, they know the way.
Speaker 2: Whoever came up with that idea, they knew. This is
Speaker 2: our fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: Of TV stations. They're gonna drip.
Speaker 4: So and so Luca's dad look out for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pissed. Yeah, I don't know why they are.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is probably the best thing that happened
Speaker 2: to Luca.
Speaker 4: Well, if nothing else in La Yeah, there are moments
Speaker 4: when you say you know what, no matter how good
Speaker 4: I am, I need to do better. And he's been
Speaker 4: knowing it for a while. You know. Of course it
Speaker 4: has something to do with his defense. But to me,
Speaker 4: his defense is the way it is because he's not
Speaker 4: in shape. I think his defense could easily improve just
Speaker 4: by just by coaching it. Otherwise, like you said, there
Speaker 4: are four people other four other people out there, so
Speaker 4: that means that it minimizes just how much he has
Speaker 4: to take care of his one fifth space. He can't
Speaker 4: do that. So that's the problem that you have with Luca.
Speaker 4: So he's going to have to improve that part of
Speaker 4: his game.
Speaker 2: I'm a lifelong Dallas site and I love Dallas. But
Speaker 2: for Luca to be able to go play for the
Speaker 2: Lakers and he hate it, his brand whatever, it just skyrocket.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna be Lebron's replaced Lakers Mavericks. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 4: he's going to be Lebron's replacement. That's what he's doing.
Speaker 3: So instead of the MAVs all that the magic Johnson,
Speaker 3: the MAVs trading for Rod. They traded him.
Speaker 4: Too, Rod. But you know, when it's it doesn't it.
Speaker 4: I don't think it equates for immediate results for the Lakers.
Speaker 4: I really don't. I think it puts. I think they
Speaker 4: have some decisions to me.
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about their team to know, but
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 4: They have to. Well, you, first of all, you know,
Speaker 4: lost the hell of a defensive trailer and the hell
Speaker 4: of an offensive player, and so how do you replace that?
Speaker 4: You can't, You really can't. So you got a forty
Speaker 4: year old sitting over there looking for his uh, his sidekick,
Speaker 4: you know, now your sidekick? Is you better shape in
Speaker 4: your sidekick?
Speaker 3: You sound like the TV with uh, what's heart's first name?
Speaker 3: The comedian Kevin Hart say he was making fun of forty.
Speaker 3: I forgot was what was the line about? When something
Speaker 3: about forty? They're not talking about a forty year old.
Speaker 4: Right, not being being off spry. Yeah, you know they're
Speaker 4: talking about the old forty year old. That's what it is.
Speaker 4: And so he's as much as he's been playing his
Speaker 4: butt off, you know, the limitations are there, and that's
Speaker 4: what Lucas job is to to go and replace him.
Speaker 4: All right now? Is that going to be good for
Speaker 4: the immediate future for the I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Last time we talked, we had a press conference was
Speaker 3: an hour before the press conference.
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Speaker 2: I've got some breaking news to pass along here, go ahead,
Speaker 2: breaking news from about an hour ago. Anyway, Miles Garrett yep,
Speaker 2: the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year and Brown
Speaker 2: Star Miles Garrett has requested a trade.
Speaker 3: He said he wants to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So and of course he is from Dallas Arlington, Martin
Speaker 2: Martin High School, an M texas A and M as well.
Speaker 3: He's only twenty nine, by the way, and he's had
Speaker 3: seven straight double digit SAX seasons, four straight of fourteen
Speaker 3: or more. The GM, Andrew Berry says, no trade, We're
Speaker 3: not trading them, but we'll see.
Speaker 4: Well, they have to do bad by.
Speaker 3: Him, Well, you know what, and his cap hit for
Speaker 3: the next two years, assuming somebody picks up the option
Speaker 3: bonus is nineteen million and twenty million, which is not
Speaker 3: like way out of whack, so it could be doable,
Speaker 3: just saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's under contract to the Cleveland Brown Miles Garrett
Speaker 2: requesting a trade. All right, so where would you like
Speaker 2: to go? First, let's get ever since impressions of what
Speaker 2: he saw during the conference.
Speaker 4: There, I stayed in there. Aboard as hell, but I
Speaker 4: stayed in there.
Speaker 2: You made it through the entire eleven minute response on
Speaker 2: the first question.
Speaker 4: No, I did not make that. Did not make that.
Speaker 4: I got shot these remarks when he was introduced. But
Speaker 4: then when uh yeah, well no, I heard enough. I
Speaker 4: was trying to listen to the to the response to
Speaker 4: that was who was that that the first question? Watson?
Speaker 4: Calvin Watkins Watkins. Yeah, that's Calvin, because I texted him
Speaker 4: when he's as said, hey man, you gotta do better.
Speaker 4: That's what I can text him. When he when he.
Speaker 3: Asked the question, I asked a yes or no question,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: And then I was there for about five minutes, and
Speaker 4: then I got hungry, and Jerry was still talking when
Speaker 4: I was on the elevator going down to the car.
Speaker 4: Then I got in.
Speaker 2: The car, and that's still answering that question, still talking, Yeah,
Speaker 2: still talking the same answer, and I think I was.
Speaker 4: I finally made one twenty one, and then when i'm
Speaker 4: when I hit the highway one twenty one, then I
Speaker 4: think Jerry wrapped it up.
Speaker 3: So I was like, well, you had an hour and
Speaker 3: five minutes.
Speaker 4: I had to eat man. But no, I was really
Speaker 4: more concerned about what Shotty was talking about. You talked
Speaker 4: about how what an impressive man he is, and how
Speaker 4: you know, listening to him, you'd be you know, I'd
Speaker 4: be very better off afterwards. And you're right, he did
Speaker 4: a good job in regards to how he carries himself
Speaker 4: as a coach, as a professional. Of course, he's got
Speaker 4: a great story. His dad was, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 4: was his dad considered one of those smartest guys. Didn't
Speaker 4: have some type of accolades, academic accolades that everyone was
Speaker 4: so impressed with when he was alive. Was that.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but he was pretty sharp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I heard he was a real shop guy.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about not just as a ballplayer, I mean
Speaker 4: as a coach, but just the way he carried himself.
Speaker 4: And so he's bringing that kind of professionalism as his
Speaker 4: son to the Cowboys. Now, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 4: words are nice, and I always telled you head coaches
Speaker 4: are nice. I need my assistant coaches to handle their business.
Speaker 4: I need them to be dogs, and I need them
Speaker 4: to be dogs and no. Ones may not even know
Speaker 4: their names by the end of the first year, but
Speaker 4: they need to handle their business. And someone whoever we
Speaker 4: bring in, whether it's a former favorites from years ago,
Speaker 4: they need to come in here and take care of business.
Speaker 4: We can't be that team because right now, because of
Speaker 4: Shoddy's hiring, everyone's looking at this as just an easy
Speaker 4: no nonsense. Don't want to get anybody any don't really
Speaker 4: want to make any progress. That's the way they're looking
Speaker 4: at this. We don't really want to make any progress.
Speaker 4: We just want someone to just come in and do
Speaker 4: Jerry's bidding. Well, he needs to show us differently, especially
Speaker 4: by the way that his assistant coaches handle themselves, whoever
Speaker 4: they are coming up for the season.
Speaker 3: You know, the people that said what you just said, Mike,
Speaker 3: question to them, then who do they want? Who do
Speaker 3: you want to hire? Just tell me, because.
Speaker 4: Well answer your own question. Answer your own question, all right?
Speaker 4: If you were then who would you say?
Speaker 3: I told I told you Nick Saban, But that wasn't
Speaker 3: going to happen.
Speaker 4: Well, give me some didn't.
Speaker 3: Anybody head coaching?
Speaker 2: No, but the names out there that people wanted to
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson was the hot name. He left the coordinator
Speaker 2: and Carroll is you know.
Speaker 3: He would have got he would have got murdered or
Speaker 3: criticized for being going to be seventy four years old.
Speaker 4: But that's why I asked you, That's why I wanted
Speaker 4: you that I'm saying. Besides Nick Saban, you don't see
Speaker 4: anyone else there.
Speaker 3: I didn't see a head coach out there that you
Speaker 3: could bring in and hire a potential head coach, a
Speaker 3: head coach, not not a coordinator experience. Yes, because both
Speaker 3: of the coordinators for Detroit did not have any head
Speaker 3: coaching experience. And I'll guarantee you both of those things
Speaker 3: were done already. They were just waiting for him to
Speaker 3: lose to get hired.
Speaker 4: Then John, I'm shot. If I'm shotten, Himen, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: make sure that that narrative that's out there does not
Speaker 4: come into fruition. That's what I'm gonna make.
Speaker 3: It'll work his ass off.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make sure that I'm gonna make everybody else
Speaker 4: gonna work their asses off too. There won't be any
Speaker 4: type of hey, guys, I was doing my job, but
Speaker 4: then I got, you know, no excuses. I want him
Speaker 4: to come through and change the culture of this team
Speaker 4: because when people step into at and T Stadium, they
Speaker 4: don't fear defense, they don't feel they fear individuals, but
Speaker 4: they don't feel this team. I want to see if
Speaker 4: that can be changed.
Speaker 3: You have to also remember you weren't just hiring a
Speaker 3: head coach. You had to hire an offensive coordinator, play caller.
Speaker 3: So my question is okay, who do you want to hire?
Speaker 3: And then who's the offensive play caller? So now you
Speaker 3: get a two fer, right, he's gonna take care of
Speaker 3: the offense. He's going to be the play caller. You
Speaker 3: hired a defensive guy, a coordinator that had never been
Speaker 3: a head coach. As I told you last week, my
Speaker 3: first question to him, who's your offensive coordinator? Because that's
Speaker 3: where your money is spent on the salary cap. Well,
Speaker 3: you've got a transition. Now that's not very big because
Speaker 3: when I talked to Dak after the press conference, he
Speaker 3: was all for it. It's like, why were you there?
Speaker 3: You know you didn't have to be there, and he said,
Speaker 3: to support Shoddy. I mean, Shoddy means a lot to me.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's been a consistent man. And he was
Speaker 3: talking about a coach.
Speaker 4: I don't know who those guys were. But after we
Speaker 4: left here, you guys went on and I wouldn't got
Speaker 4: some hot chocolate and all everyone walked by and it
Speaker 4: was a few of the players and I recognized Dak
Speaker 4: shake his hand and we talked. But he said, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm going to support, I'm going to support.
Speaker 3: He thought it was he liked it, so that's good.
Speaker 4: I saw it was. Who were the other players there?
Speaker 4: I don't saw Tyler the guy on crutches, tall lane
Speaker 4: guy on crutches, dark skin brother, he was on crutches
Speaker 4: over show. That was Marvin. I don't recognize the guys
Speaker 4: out of the uniform.
Speaker 3: Right and uh one of the wide receivers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it was about about guy.
Speaker 3: I think I saw rock Hoffman was there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he got some from about about guys.
Speaker 2: And there's and there are not very many players hanging
Speaker 2: out of course this time of the year.
Speaker 4: But those that were here, they were there.
Speaker 3: Right, guys probably doing their rehab.
Speaker 4: They were no doubt and they say, you know what,
Speaker 4: let's head on.
Speaker 3: And they got support from his mother too, by the way,
Speaker 3: who uh shot.
Speaker 4: From his own mother.
Speaker 3: Oh, she was good.
Speaker 2: She was you were over there, the one who got
Speaker 2: the stopped. Yeah, and the wife as well.
Speaker 3: So she's mom said basically, what you see is what
Speaker 3: you're going to get, you know, And and she's probably
Speaker 3: right about that the way he would answer questions when
Speaker 3: he was in those media Monday sessions. Yeah, so okay,
Speaker 3: so you took care of that all right. Now, They
Speaker 3: hired an offensive coordinator but that coordinator is going to
Speaker 3: be like Schottenheimer was to McCarthy. Right, it was McCarthy's offense.
Speaker 3: This will be shot and hiring.
Speaker 2: And this tell us about this offensive Clayton Adam Adams,
Speaker 2: who is with the Arizona Cardinals as their.
Speaker 3: Offensive offensive line coach.
Speaker 4: Is that what we're talking about?
Speaker 10: You?
Speaker 3: Well, he's got to know what the guy he's going
Speaker 3: to be like the assistant he'll be and is he
Speaker 3: more of the run run game coordinator?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: And he's been pretty good.
Speaker 2: And they talked about the Arizona run game last year.
Speaker 2: Now you do have a quarterback run game with that,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 3: Did a little different, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I crunched some numbers on that, and there wasn't a
Speaker 2: whole lot of difference between what the running backs in
Speaker 2: Arizona did compare to what Rico Dowbell the running game here.
Speaker 2: But if you add in the quarterback run then they
Speaker 2: were seventh in the league and rushing.
Speaker 4: That's not fair.
Speaker 2: We can't exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the same. I mean that's like saying, oh,
Speaker 3: the run game quarterinator in Philadelphia is really good, right, Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: if I got a running back and the quarterback that's
Speaker 3: going to run for eight Yeah.
Speaker 4: So although that's a very experienced offensive line.
Speaker 2: But although that run game coordinator in Philadelphia, Jeff Stoutland,
Speaker 2: should be getting a lot more of the credit for
Speaker 2: what's going on in Philadelphia. No offense to Kellen Moore,
Speaker 2: but he's the guy, and he's been there for years,
Speaker 2: and he's that offensive line. And so the big thing
Speaker 2: is if Clayton Adams is the offense, if isn't the
Speaker 2: offensive line coach, at least he has worked in a
Speaker 2: system where he has been an offensive line coach, and
Speaker 2: he respects the run game and has some schemes it's
Speaker 2: respected as far as putting scheme together that get that
Speaker 2: run game go.
Speaker 3: After a week of interviews at the Super Bowl, that
Speaker 3: guy will be the next hot candidate next year, you
Speaker 3: think so the Philadelphia Jeff stolets Oh no, I was saying, And.
Speaker 2: He may be a guy that he's he didn't want
Speaker 2: to be a head coach or anything. Maybe he knows
Speaker 2: where his place is.
Speaker 3: So okay, So that's offense defense. We sort of knew
Speaker 3: where they were going when Matt Eberflus bringing Fluse back.
Speaker 3: Been here twenty thirteen through twenty seventeen four years the
Speaker 3: defense coordinator of the Colts and then the Bears head
Speaker 3: coach for two and a half two three quarter years,
Speaker 3: however long that last season lasted. So he was a
Speaker 3: good hand. You would have liked to kept him around,
Speaker 3: but the Colts offered him that defensive coordinator job, So
Speaker 3: I thought that was that was a move that was
Speaker 3: going to happen anyway. Uh, they retained the tight end coach,
Speaker 3: London defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: He's going to be here, he's yes.
Speaker 3: And then they hired special teams uh Nick Sorenson.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: He had been with uh Schottenheimer during his time with Seattle,
Speaker 3: so he knew him, and then one year in Jacksonville
Speaker 3: also so he was familiar with him. He was a
Speaker 3: former special teams player defensive backs coach. I think Bill
Speaker 3: Uh if I remember correctly. So anyway, they got that
Speaker 3: taken care of. Saw London Wells on Friday they retained
Speaker 3: him as the tight ends coach, and I think he's
Speaker 3: the only one they've retained from the previous staff other
Speaker 3: than Schottenheimer so far.
Speaker 2: So far. So you did mention Overstreet.
Speaker 3: No, I haven't got that yet. And it looks like
Speaker 3: they are hiring Todd. Harcher reported they were hiring David
Speaker 3: Overstreet the second as their dB coach. That was Iberflu's
Speaker 3: dB coach with the Bears, and we love that.
Speaker 2: Being an Oklahoma Sooner fans growing up.
Speaker 3: You understand whose dad was, right, big Sandy, Oh you
Speaker 3: first round pick of Miami. I was thinking when I
Speaker 3: was reading this, I'm going, why don't I remember something
Speaker 3: happened to him?
Speaker 2: Tragic car, tragic car?
Speaker 3: It came back. Yeah, I knew something after home.
Speaker 4: It wasn't he on the break or something? Wasn't it
Speaker 4: It was gas station? Yeah, but he was, he was
Speaker 4: going going, he was, he was. It was on a break,
Speaker 4: wasn't he. They wanted to dump my k on a break?
Speaker 4: He was driving home and that was it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, awful he was in. But he's in the same
Speaker 2: backfield in nineteen seventy eight with Billy Simms, a lot
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winner and Kenny King was the full.
Speaker 4: Back past Thomas back him. Come on, he was, he was.
Speaker 4: He was the youngster, right, he was a youngster. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, speed guy right, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. They was just waiting on the car.
Speaker 3: Out of the Out of all that, they had two
Speaker 3: first round picks in that triple option backfield.
Speaker 4: Is that it's nice son? Direct is his son?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: David over Street the second and he's got some.
Speaker 4: And see I never knew Davis first name. I always
Speaker 4: just called him over Streets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, David and David over Street. I'm looking
Speaker 2: up now, you know. He was the thirteenth pick of
Speaker 2: the draft in nineteen eighty one. Uh and Big Sandy, Texas.
Speaker 2: That's where Lovey Smith is from, too, And.
Speaker 4: My dad's the best. He called him the best football
Speaker 4: player he's ever seen. Lovey. Yeah, my dad said that
Speaker 4: about love My dad from Washall and he loves all
Speaker 4: these Texas Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so Lovey would have been. He might have
Speaker 2: crosspaths as teammates with Overstreet in high school, but I
Speaker 2: want to say, you think a year or two older.
Speaker 3: I think they did though. Yeah I read something on that.
Speaker 2: But David Overstreet died tragically in that car accident at
Speaker 2: age twenty five in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 3: So the other hires they made linebacker coach Dave Borganzi.
Speaker 3: He was here as a in twenty twelve and thirteen
Speaker 3: as like a defensive assistant and an offensive assistant, not
Speaker 3: a direct position coach defensive line. Aaron Whitecotton last four
Speaker 3: years was a defensive line coach with the Jets, and
Speaker 3: he had been around Sala in San Francisco before he
Speaker 3: brought him to the Jets and then they hired a
Speaker 3: defense of past game coordinator. Andre Curtis had been with
Speaker 3: Schottenheimer in Seattle. He was a pass game coordinator and
Speaker 3: he also coached safeties with the Bears with Matt Eberflus
Speaker 3: for the past three years.
Speaker 4: You know, the Bears were known for having a stubborn defense.
Speaker 3: They played well. Defense wasn't there And by the.
Speaker 2: Way, and Curtis, going back over a decade ago, he
Speaker 2: was with Spagnolo with the Giants and the Rams.
Speaker 3: Andre Curtis, he's been around. And then our buddy Nick
Speaker 3: Harris who's now in Fort Worth. He said that they
Speaker 3: interviewed to Shard Choice and Rashad Samples as for the
Speaker 3: running backs coach position that hasn't been filled. And Samples
Speaker 3: is the son of Reginald Duncanville.
Speaker 2: And there have been two Shard posted something over the
Speaker 2: weekend with the hook them Horns, and people are reading
Speaker 2: into that that he's staying at Texas, but we'll see.
Speaker 3: But he's done a good job developing running backs at
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech and Texas.
Speaker 4: Oh, he's a running back, whisper.
Speaker 2: Jamior Gibbs at Georgia Tech before Gibbs transferred to Alabama
Speaker 2: and then Texas. Every year they're producing first.
Speaker 3: Or second round even when they got guys John.
Speaker 2: Robinson, Jonathan Brooks was.
Speaker 4: I must admit he has been connected with.
Speaker 2: Some even even going back to North Texas. He said,
Speaker 2: running backs that have Jeff Wilson has been in the
Speaker 2: league for several years and to Shard coached him at
Speaker 2: North Texas and a lot of it has to do
Speaker 2: with recruiting too. To Shard, if you ever talked to Shard,
Speaker 2: I mean he can go. Yeah. Lovable guy. He was
Speaker 2: one of the first guys in my Big Green notebooks.
Speaker 2: Okay back and when in the draft he was he.
Speaker 4: Like that in college he's as far as the outgoing personality.
Speaker 2: Yes, And in fact, that's what caught my eye on
Speaker 2: him because he started to started his college career at
Speaker 2: OU backing up Adrian Peterson. Yes, and then he transferred
Speaker 2: to Georgia Tech and was and had a great career
Speaker 2: at Georgia Tech. But what caught my eye there was
Speaker 2: a YouTube video of to Shard giving a pregame speech
Speaker 2: to the Georgia Tech team. I mean, he was so passionate.
Speaker 2: I said, Man, you gotta get this guy on your team.
Speaker 2: He's my everything or my nothing. You could find it
Speaker 2: on YouTube. It's great. And uh and so and I
Speaker 2: was actually I was, man, cowboys got to get this.
Speaker 2: And sure enough I was walking out of church that
Speaker 2: Sunday morning when they uh uh huh. And so we
Speaker 2: became friends. When he was here, I told him that story.
Speaker 2: And so I would love to see him here, but
Speaker 2: I guess I'll secretly root for Texas.
Speaker 3: He uh, he was here last year at this time
Speaker 3: for the East when the East West Shrine Bowl. The
Speaker 3: night the day before the game, they inducted guys into
Speaker 3: their Hall of fame. Sarkisian was inducted into the East
Speaker 3: West Shrine Bowl Hall of Fame. And he was here
Speaker 3: with Sarkisian and he's on the phone the whole time.
Speaker 3: I know what he's doing. He's recruiting, right, And he
Speaker 3: saw me. He seek me out to come and say hi,
Speaker 3: and we talked and talked and talked. He's great. We
Speaker 3: talked running back and talked about his running back.
Speaker 2: And you know, we talked. He called me a couple
Speaker 2: of times when after he retired. He was trying. He
Speaker 2: was thinking about getting into the media and doing something
Speaker 2: in the media. But he found where he needs to be.
Speaker 4: Now that's what he needs to be. Yeah, that's where
Speaker 4: he needs to be. He can help, he can help kids,
Speaker 4: help the kids.
Speaker 2: Got anything else on your legal pat You want to
Speaker 2: take a break and come back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we probably take it all right. I
Speaker 3: think we've covered where we're at with the coaching staff.
Speaker 2: Much more still to come, and what a great moment
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl on Saturday too. We'll talk about
Speaker 2: that and more when we come back here on mix shots.
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Speaker 2: All Right, I did not see it, but I saw
Speaker 2: it after the fact, the game winning touchdown in the Senior.
Speaker 3: Bowl on Saturday watching you are.
Speaker 2: Watching it as it happened. Jack Besh, the wide receiver
Speaker 2: out of TCU, started his career at LSU, and of course,
Speaker 2: the tragic story a month or so ago when the
Speaker 2: terrorist attack in New Orleans, his brother Tiger was killed,
Speaker 2: and at the Senior Bowl, he was wearing his brother's
Speaker 2: number seven. His brother had played at Princeton.
Speaker 4: I saw that, and I saw that, and all.
Speaker 2: The players were wearing number seven decals on their helmets.
Speaker 2: And as it turns out, a Senior Bowl comes down
Speaker 2: to the last play of the game and the kid
Speaker 2: from from and Ryan Hennigan throws the touchdown a nice
Speaker 2: little pass there.
Speaker 3: It was a nice pass in a nice little route
Speaker 3: that he ran. It was fourth down. They went for well,
Speaker 3: they because they could have kicked a field goal, and
Speaker 3: they went.
Speaker 2: For this where in the number seven. That play started
Speaker 2: with seven seconds left.
Speaker 3: It was unbelievable, and he catches the game winning touchdown
Speaker 3: pass offensive MVP. They interviewed him. He got through the
Speaker 3: interview and then his mom and dad came and it
Speaker 3: was the longest hug and crying you ever seen. Daddy
Speaker 3: was kissing him on the neck, Mama was holding him,
Speaker 3: and they first production or whatever who was ever producing
Speaker 3: the show kept it there and he didn't have to
Speaker 3: say anything, just must it felt like for five minutes.
Speaker 3: It wasn't but yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and even right after he caught the touchdown pass,
Speaker 2: he was swarmed in the end zone, of course, and
Speaker 2: I believe it was Brett Besch, his uncle, who's was
Speaker 2: the assistant strength coach here, who was in the midst.
Speaker 4: Of that and they But does he have that, Chris, Okay,
Speaker 4: it was. It was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really emotional. But it was a neat
Speaker 3: a neat deal to end the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 2: And by the way, he kicked butt all week. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's a guy to keep an eye on in the draft. Uh,
Speaker 2: wide receiver, wide receiver, big bigger one, a tight.
Speaker 3: End, wide receiver, kind of a little bit of both.
Speaker 4: I think he playing.
Speaker 3: Where where do they play the TCU?
Speaker 4: Oh? TCU?
Speaker 2: Yep, and uh he started his career at LSU and
Speaker 2: transferred to TCU. I'm getting his measurements right now, of course,
Speaker 2: he I didn't get this. I don't have the Senior
Speaker 2: Bowl measurements here in front of me. But six two
Speaker 2: two and fifteen pounds. So he's okay, big, bigger wide receiver.
Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see what he runs. But
Speaker 2: you know, at the Senior Bowl they do a survey
Speaker 2: of players in the game, like they'll survey defensive backs
Speaker 2: on who's the best wide receiver that you went up
Speaker 2: against or who offensive line and who's the best defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: And Jack Besh won that wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you know what happens in those games, and
Speaker 3: it happened in the for the majority. In the East
Speaker 3: West Shrine game I went to there's not enough offensive
Speaker 3: line when to go around. You know, it's like what
Speaker 3: happens with the alternative leagues. If you can't block up front,
Speaker 3: you never know how good the running back is or
Speaker 3: how good the quarterback is because they don't get any protection.
Speaker 3: And so in the one side I forgot which which
Speaker 3: one it was, the East side, the East side.
Speaker 2: But on the you're talking about the Senior.
Speaker 3: Bowl Shrine game, yeah, they one side, the offensive line
Speaker 3: was just terrible. So the quarterbacks didn't have a chance.
Speaker 3: But uh, there was a running back Crosby Merritt. H
Speaker 3: he had a little bit of scoot to him. He
Speaker 3: was from, Uh, let's see if I can find it
Speaker 3: real quick. I don't know, he just he did go
Speaker 3: to the game. Yeah I did, Okay, I did. I
Speaker 3: sat in the press box and watched for three quarters, right, Uh,
Speaker 3: and he caught my eye. Uh. And then the quarterback
Speaker 3: his name was sorry, sorry cam Miller, cam Miller. He
Speaker 3: was he had some he had some scoot to him.
Speaker 3: He threw a nice pass. Yeah, Shad Sanders obviously.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if Vickey was in the Scottie group
Speaker 2: and okay.
Speaker 3: Marthako, okay, stop Dakota.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got our Southeast College scout over here. He's
Speaker 2: gonna give us.
Speaker 3: Report, right, yeah, I didn't have to write stuff down, right,
Speaker 3: he will.
Speaker 2: Wilbur Clay calls, okay, scout, Vicky, give me a report
Speaker 2: on this guy.
Speaker 4: He was pretty good, now, cam Miller, he was balling
Speaker 4: out in the playoffs, right, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: So, uh, you know he had some protection. The other
Speaker 3: side didn't have much protection.
Speaker 2: What was that running necks name?
Speaker 4: What was the running name?
Speaker 3: Rosby Merritt.
Speaker 2: No, it's Corey Crosskey Merritt Crosskey.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't write it down, well, Frosky merrit Arizona, Arizona,
Speaker 3: number thirty one. He was pretty good.
Speaker 2: Well you know how many yards he ran for this
Speaker 2: past season?
Speaker 3: How many?
Speaker 2: One hundred and six?
Speaker 4: Dang?
Speaker 3: Well about ran und six in the in the Shrine Bowl.
Speaker 2: Vickey you can spot him.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: You watched apparently he was hurt. He had thirteen carries
Speaker 2: for one hundred and six okay, so that was eight
Speaker 2: yards to carry, so small sample size and we were
Speaker 2: able to that's right.
Speaker 3: I can tell how when I see it. And maybe
Speaker 3: the best part was when they interviewed uh Chaudeur Sanders
Speaker 3: afterwards and they were saying what was it like? And
Speaker 3: he said, you know, he got my dad. He said
Speaker 3: he kept calling me and calling me and calling me,
Speaker 3: and he said I finally said, hey, look I got
Speaker 3: to do this on my own. He goes, he goes.
Speaker 3: My dad's got separation anxiety.
Speaker 4: That was That was the best line of the week.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I look at when I
Speaker 2: especially like a quarterback, but every position is how they
Speaker 2: handle interviews and stuff. And Chaudeurs got You can tell
Speaker 2: how bright they are by the way they handled interviews.
Speaker 4: A lot of times, well they had to handle themselves
Speaker 4: in their own home dealing with their dad.
Speaker 2: I try.
Speaker 4: You gotta go for tab with Pops.
Speaker 2: Schader checks that box, you know, And as far as
Speaker 2: you can tell the kind of the poise that they
Speaker 2: have and everything, and so I've already in my big
Speaker 2: green notebook. I've already checked. Okay, he's fine as far
Speaker 2: as I.
Speaker 4: Don't think he's got the tools already made. But I
Speaker 4: think his uh stick to itiveness allows him to be
Speaker 4: as good as he is.
Speaker 3: I saw his mentality in.
Speaker 4: Regards to finishing a play, making a play. It may
Speaker 4: it may not come from him having so many physical tools,
Speaker 4: but up here and right here he's got right, he's
Speaker 4: got it.
Speaker 3: I saw drafts, somebody's mock draft. They had him going first.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 2: Who's got the Tennessee Tennessee cam or the quarterback from
Speaker 2: Miami is also taught.
Speaker 3: I had him going second.
Speaker 4: Now he's the one that's got the traditional Yes.
Speaker 2: We there are so many teams in the top even
Speaker 2: before the Cowboys pick at number twelve that need quarterbacks
Speaker 2: that kind of help the Cowboys quarterbacks go earlier than
Speaker 2: they should go. Now, as it turns out, this year,
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks that went and there were five of them
Speaker 2: that went in the top twelve picks or whatever it was,
Speaker 2: they deserve to go up there. And they it's evidenced
Speaker 2: by Bo Nicks and how he did with Denver. He
Speaker 2: was the last of that bunch. Now this year they're
Speaker 2: going to be overdrafted as of need yeah and so
Speaker 2: and so. Now you got what what happens when you
Speaker 2: draft a quarterback in the top ten. Now they get
Speaker 2: thrown in sooner than they should be they usually Now
Speaker 2: in the case of Patrick Mahomes, he went tenth overall
Speaker 2: and he got the city year, and that I think
Speaker 2: probably helped him immntually. Who knows, maybe they would have
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl that year if they would have
Speaker 2: played him and said, Alex Smith.
Speaker 4: Oh you could have broken you could's right, yeah, you
Speaker 4: could be the one. Yeah the other I see, I see,
Speaker 4: you should do a mean. He reminds me of like
Speaker 4: he's got the ad living ability of Brett Forth. And
Speaker 4: that's a good thing. I don't mean Brett Fath reckless.
Speaker 4: I mean his ability to stick with the play. I'm
Speaker 4: not going to give up on the play.
Speaker 2: And he has had to deal with some bad offensive line.
Speaker 4: Yes he had.
Speaker 3: He's got good, no doubt, and he's taking a beating.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I don't want to see I don't want
Speaker 4: to see.
Speaker 3: The other quarterback that stood out on the west side
Speaker 3: it was, uh, some guy named Brady Cook.
Speaker 2: From Missouri.
Speaker 3: From Missouri.
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, throw that out. He's good.
Speaker 3: He's got a nice arm. He's not going to be
Speaker 3: big enough, or they don't. I don't know how much
Speaker 3: they value his arm, but he.
Speaker 2: Will say when you came in here throughout the season,
Speaker 2: I thought you were down on bread.
Speaker 3: No I was not. He got hurt. They had to
Speaker 3: play the backup.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was.
Speaker 3: The only reason they lost a game or two because
Speaker 3: they had to play the backup, the one that came
Speaker 3: back and got heard against Auburn and came back valiantly
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter to well lead to victory. I
Speaker 3: know you won a game that right, you win every game.
Speaker 2: Inexplicably fumbled the football away with less than two minutes
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 3: You got to have good defense.
Speaker 2: No, I had nothing to do with the defense. He
Speaker 2: just fumbled the football away.
Speaker 10: By the way, the reason why that some mock draft
Speaker 10: had Sidor going number one is because the new general manager,
Speaker 10: Mike Berganzi, which is Dave Brother, made comments this weekend
Speaker 10: about Shador, saying that he is the right guy and smart,
Speaker 10: engaging and the right guy to lead this football.
Speaker 2: Team and Tennessee was there in Denton interviewing.
Speaker 10: So that's why people start quotes and he's going to
Speaker 10: go down just because he.
Speaker 4: Just talked to him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 10: They move him around as they go when they start
Speaker 10: asking about players and they try to te leaves, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's a media for you.
Speaker 3: And by the way you threw this out, I want
Speaker 3: to say last week we were talking about.
Speaker 2: About me predicting that Luca was going to be traded out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got that one.
Speaker 3: We're going back to football about looking for an offensive coordinator,
Speaker 3: looking for an offensive coordinator, and you said, wha, what
Speaker 3: about hiring Chip Kelly? Ohio State got hired by the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Raiders Tom Brady hired Chip Kelly to be his offensive.
Speaker 3: Course, there you go, Brady's doing all the highing. There's
Speaker 3: something wrong there, right TV. And also so.
Speaker 2: Does Brady gonna hire going to draft the Ohio State
Speaker 2: quarterback to play for Chip Kelly.
Speaker 4: That's the first thing I thought, Well.
Speaker 2: I got like the six pick in the draft something.
Speaker 3: Like that, and he's he's he's upright. That guy's played
Speaker 3: eight years in now. Yeah, I think what's his name?
Speaker 3: Will Howard is that it will.
Speaker 2: That sounds great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's he used to be at he was
Speaker 3: in the state state, right.
Speaker 2: No, I know, I just liked it.
Speaker 3: He was playing. He probably knows where he went to
Speaker 3: high school and what their mascot was, Gil Brandt.
Speaker 2: All right, we got one minute your one minute warning?
Speaker 2: That was it was stretched out to five Mickey's on Sunday?
Speaker 3: Is there a super Bowl?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: On Sunday? Who's gonna win the Dallas Open?
Speaker 4: That sons going to ask? Who's going to Dallas something?
Speaker 4: You're gonna go?
Speaker 3: TFO TFO Francis TFO Jerry there at seven o'clock? Will
Speaker 3: be he does tonight night?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 2: Will Jerry be there to present the trophy? Or will
Speaker 2: he be in the super city of New Orleans?
Speaker 3: Are they they've already started this afternoon right or right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They start actually right now right now?
Speaker 2: Twelve wins your match?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you're a big tens. I know they do.
Speaker 2: Did you make the celebrity for doubles?
Speaker 3: They didn't ask. I don't know. Yeah, I played to
Speaker 3: everon or I could have gone out the celebrity tennis Well,
Speaker 3: more like a program.
Speaker 4: We'll look like pickleball players.
Speaker 2: I mean next Monday morning, the courts will still be
Speaker 2: up there. I got got y'all report early next Monday morning,
Speaker 2: and we'll get some video of y'all playing each other
Speaker 2: in the real championship crowds.
Speaker 4: He won't be able to get all.
Speaker 2: Right, think does it?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: You got a winner this Sunday, the real game, Jeeves.
Speaker 2: I'm going to Texans also.
Speaker 3: Me too. I just something about that's it my homes
Speaker 3: right and read that's bag and spags because defense it's wins.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's right. And we've made it through that without
Speaker 2: mentioning the team that they're playing against here on Dallas
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