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Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 2: And it's a beautiful Monday morning in Frisco, Texas inside

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Speaker 2: the SWBC podcast studio where we are ready to talk

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Speaker 2: sport today, sports, sports, sports, sports of all times. That's

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Speaker 2: right after a late night last night. And congratulations the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys won a championship last night. Album of the Year

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Speaker 2: cowboy Carter?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Ever Sin, did you know that I did not say

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Speaker 2: cowboy Carter?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you know. That's so you got me because

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Speaker 4: I didn't know you said.

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Speaker 2: You just said that you did not watch the Grammy?

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Speaker 4: Well you and my daughter. Man, she's a bee high.

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Speaker 4: But whatever they call those people, I'm gonna speak, haven't

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Speaker 4: seen her, those young individuals.

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Speaker 3: Her video riding the white horse.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I didn't see none of that, you know anyway.

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Speaker 2: So a championship won by the Cowboys, that's right. Anything

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Speaker 2: else going on?

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Speaker 3: Well, Cowboys, this was funny. The stars game started at

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Speaker 3: five pm.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, you saw the casket outside the AAC yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I did see that. But the guy that started the

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Speaker 3: Stars broadcast says, well, we've got uh a big deal

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Speaker 3: to talk about because the Stars traded for two veterans, right,

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Speaker 3: and I think it was Harper.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it would have been.

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Speaker 4: It was not.

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Speaker 3: I mean Darryl, Darryl Ray Ray Darryl goes, yeah, not

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Speaker 3: as big as the big one.

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Speaker 4: He just up.

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Speaker 3: This guy was going to just go by it like, oh,

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Speaker 3: the Stars traded for yeah.

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Speaker 4: Bring don't don't bring that up now. I'm sorry, guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as big as the big one.

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Speaker 2: I got one question, who's the most despised general manager?

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Speaker 4: You're going to try it? They said the torch had passed.

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Speaker 3: Jerry's off the book.

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Speaker 4: Jerry's having a cigar somewhere, like I can relax now,

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Speaker 4: all right?

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Speaker 2: So uh okay, when did you When did you find

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Speaker 2: out about it? And we're talking about the Luca trade

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Speaker 2: that Lakers for those For some reason, I was up

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Speaker 2: late Saturday night. I didn't find out about it until

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning. I went to bed early, didn't check Twitter

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Speaker 2: or anything early. By being a little poor midnight, the

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Speaker 2: trade had happened went up before I went to bed

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Speaker 2: on Saturday night. Yeah, but I did and check Twitter

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Speaker 2: or anything. And I wake up at seven point thirty

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Speaker 2: on Sunday morning, where the text for my daughter? Is

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Speaker 2: this real?

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Speaker 4: What can't be real? Yeah? No, I was April first.

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Speaker 4: I had just come from my brother in law's seventieth

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Speaker 4: birthday party. We did a big shindou for him with

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Speaker 4: Hotels Azau. So we'll come back. Yeah, we're coming back

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Speaker 4: and here comes. You know, I got the kids, I

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Speaker 4: got my wife in the car and my son's reading.

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Speaker 4: He goes, no, no, like what you know. They're all

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Speaker 4: into the you know, media and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: So they're trying to check different Instagram. They're checking everything.

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Speaker 4: I said. If Adam Shefter says it, then I believe it.

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Speaker 4: So but you know, he had nothing to do with There.

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Speaker 2: Are fake Adam Schefter accounts too.

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Speaker 4: We were worried about all of that, all of that,

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Speaker 4: so all the way home, we're still confused, like, okay,

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Speaker 4: what does this mean. I mean, we had our own

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Speaker 4: the mass I don't know, but it's pretty good working

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Speaker 4: on for the mask. You know you got a big man.

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Speaker 4: on seventy five shocking.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember why I was up. Oh I

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Speaker 4: I thought, you're gonna says no, I don't have to

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Speaker 2: So one of the first things I thought of was

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Speaker 2: where was I when I heard about the herschel Walker trade.

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Speaker 2: I mean this, it's been called the most stunning trade,

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Speaker 2: the biggest trade in NBA history, and in Dallas for

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Speaker 4: For the Cowboys. That's saying a lot.

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Speaker 2: The herschel Walker trade. I mean we thought it would

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Speaker 4: What about the firing of Jimmy Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Well, but I'm talking about a trade, Okay, I'm just

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about sports news, right, trade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nico Harrison told Jerry Jones, hold my beer.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to top you. I'm gonna one up you.

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Speaker 3: But he can only hope that this trade, somehow, some way.

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Speaker 2: Turns out like the herschel Walker.

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Speaker 3: But it can't because he didn't get anything back ye

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Speaker 3: or enough the herschel Walker traded.

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Speaker 2: That was the key on it. But when you go

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Speaker 2: back and look at the herschel Walker trade, because people

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Speaker 2: now thirty five years later look at Herschel's career and

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Speaker 2: it was a nice career in the NFL. But in fact,

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Speaker 2: with my son in laws, I've got to explain they

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Speaker 2: weren't born yet. They were born about the same time

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Speaker 2: that the herschel Walker trade occurred. So I got to

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Speaker 2: go inform them of, Okay, this is how big, this

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Speaker 2: is how big herschel Walker was. And even have to

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Speaker 2: remind myself that in nineteen eighty eight with the Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: herschel Walker had a sea fifty, over fifteen hundred yards

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Speaker 2: two thousand yards from scrimmage in nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Mickey for a three and thirteen team, not one

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Speaker 2: Right, But his stature was that he was the one

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Speaker 4: That's what they said too. I'm sorry that was the

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Speaker 2: And so the feeling in Minnesota was this is putting

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Speaker 2: in hindsight, now right exactly.

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Speaker 4: But and so the news alone, the news was still right.

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Speaker 2: They did what they traded Herschel Walker for these five guys,

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Speaker 3: Then we found out a couple of days later what

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Speaker 3: the trade really was. I wonder if Luca got paid

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Speaker 3: two million dollars wardrobe illness like.

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Speaker 2: Herschel Herschel did.

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Speaker 4: He didn't use it.

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Speaker 3: Will because he didn't have any He said, he didn't

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Speaker 4: Us at all. Sorry, you always had a little dressing

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Speaker 3: There's got to be more to this than they're talking about.

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Speaker 2: More than more than basketball.

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Speaker 4: Yes, more than just the more than just more than that.

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Speaker 3: How about three hundred and forty five million reasons which

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Speaker 2: They okay, it wasn't that then, it wasn't that they

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Speaker 4: They didn't want to pay. Exactly, they can.

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Speaker 5: They could use that money you need, because you wouldn't

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Speaker 5: need to under And the other thing is, and I

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Speaker 5: brought it up last night, is they've you're starting their

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Speaker 2: Well, keep in mind that Miriam Edelson. Yeah, there's the

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Speaker 2: It wasn't so she's the fifty third richest person in

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Speaker 2: the world. And so it's not like they can't afford

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Speaker 2: Luca's three hundred and forty five million dollar contract. That

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Speaker 2: There is a reason that they think that they are

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Speaker 3: The money available because there is somewhat of a salary

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Speaker 2: Next season he could become a free agent and they

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Speaker 3: And they're saying that there was a lot of teams

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Speaker 2: So this was the time, But this was the time

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Speaker 2: to train. If you're going to trade him, this was

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Speaker 4: And so once again, why are you looking at that option?

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Speaker 4: Other than you're talking money, than.

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Speaker 3: That and the other thing. I don't want it. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to hear is uh, defense wins championships. Not

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Speaker 3: in the NBA. Boston didn't win because they played good defense.

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Speaker 3: They scored, couldn't stop him from scoring.

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Speaker 2: Well, But one of the reasons was they just blew

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, yeah, he could, but everybody else you

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think anybody wins in the NBA with defense.

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Speaker 3: Overall, no one's playing defense.

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Speaker 4: Everybody they're playing defense. They're playing defense. And I know

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Speaker 4: you you probably sound like some old Bill Walton or

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Speaker 4: something like that. Right, I'm gonna let you have it,

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Speaker 4: You have to have some type of philosophy on your team. Uh,

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Speaker 4: in regards to each player having to play his role

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Speaker 4: on team defense. Luca was never that guy. And it's

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Speaker 4: It's the reason that he's got this look on his face.

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Speaker 4: He's he feels like he looks like he's got high

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Speaker 4: he looks like he's tired all the time except when

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Speaker 4: he gets the ball in his hand. And that's just

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Speaker 4: the way Luca has always played. That's a you You've

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Speaker 4: had that go on in the NFL, NBA for quite

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Speaker 4: some time. Well, you got guys that just don't play

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Speaker 4: good defense. His was so out there. It was so

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Speaker 4: championship when they needed someone to play defense. He could

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Speaker 3: There were other guys out there, I know, but.

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Speaker 4: You still got to cover your area, but you still

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Speaker 3: Look at the point totals Boston had.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at the makeup of the Celtics

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Speaker 2: team and By the way, they have two players who

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Speaker 3: And Jaylen Brown, and they were able.

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Speaker 2: To take advantage of Luca's deficiency.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're gonna get rid of him too. Huh.

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Speaker 3: If if you could trade Luke, better watch out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just know that you know how much guy's dressed.

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Speaker 2: They know they know the way. Yeah, they know the way.

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Speaker 2: Whoever came up with that idea, they knew. This is

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Speaker 3: Of TV stations. They're gonna drip.

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Speaker 4: So and so Luca's dad look out for him.

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Speaker 2: I'm a lifelong Dallas site and I love Dallas. But

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna be Lebron's replaced Lakers Mavericks. Yeah. I mean,

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444
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445
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446
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 4: So the.

447
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 3: Producer Supreme put a picture of the center court. You

448
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 3: missed it, it's gone. Look, Oh wow, there's Dallas. Look

449
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 3: what they built around the center court.

450
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 4: Knife.

451
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 3: They've got like four or five courts out there.

452
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: So there's those like practice courts. No I know that

453
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: is the center court, but there's other courts are then

454
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: the practice courts and match courts that in addition.

455
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: To that, not the center court. And by the way,

456
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: there they must be staying here because when I went

457
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 3: to lunch on Friday, all the tennis players were in

458
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 3: the training table.

459
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this morning as well.

460
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: What a perfect place really for the tennis pro I

461
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: mean we're talking, uh, two of the top five players

462
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: in the world are playing there. Uh. And they upgraded

463
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 2: it to an ATP five hundred event now and but

464
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 2: here at Ford Center, and with the hotel here and everything,

465
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a perfect place.

466
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 3: They got all the training stuff, they.

467
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: Got restaurants around here and stuff. It's got to be

468
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: great for them just traveling in here.

469
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 3: And if you need to know anything about tennis these days,

470
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: all these guys were at least six six foot six '

471
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: three arms forever and big hands. It's amazing. And they

472
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: were all sitting there eating lunch the other day.

473
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: I've got some breaking news to pass along here, go ahead,

474
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: breaking news from about an hour ago. Anyway, Miles Garrett yep,

475
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year and Brown

476
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: Star Miles Garrett has requested a trade.

477
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 3: He said he wants to win a Super Bowl.

478
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: So and of course he is from Dallas Arlington, Martin

479
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: Martin High School, an M texas A and M as well.

480
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: He's only twenty nine, by the way, and he's had

481
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: seven straight double digit SAX seasons, four straight of fourteen

482
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 3: or more. The GM, Andrew Berry says, no trade, We're

483
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: not trading them, but we'll see.

484
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 4: Well, they have to do bad by.

485
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 3: Him, Well, you know what, and his cap hit for

486
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: the next two years, assuming somebody picks up the option

487
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: bonus is nineteen million and twenty million, which is not

488
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: like way out of whack, so it could be doable,

489
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: just saying.

490
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: Okay, he's under contract to the Cleveland Brown Miles Garrett

491
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: requesting a trade. All right, so where would you like

492
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: to go? First, let's get ever since impressions of what

493
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: he saw during the conference.

494
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 4: There, I stayed in there. Aboard as hell, but I

495
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: stayed in there.

496
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: You made it through the entire eleven minute response on

497
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: the first question.

498
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: No, I did not make that. Did not make that.

499
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 4: I got shot these remarks when he was introduced. But

500
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 4: then when uh yeah, well no, I heard enough. I

501
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 4: was trying to listen to the to the response to

502
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: that was who was that that the first question? Watson?

503
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 4: Calvin Watkins Watkins. Yeah, that's Calvin, because I texted him

504
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: when he's as said, hey man, you gotta do better.

505
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 4: That's what I can text him. When he when he.

506
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: Asked the question, I asked a yes or no question,

507
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: you know.

508
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: And then I was there for about five minutes, and

509
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 4: then I got hungry, and Jerry was still talking when

510
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 4: I was on the elevator going down to the car.

511
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 4: Then I got in.

512
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: The car, and that's still answering that question, still talking, Yeah,

513
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 2: still talking the same answer, and I think I was.

514
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: I finally made one twenty one, and then when i'm

515
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 4: when I hit the highway one twenty one, then I

516
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: think Jerry wrapped it up.

517
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: So I was like, well, you had an hour and

518
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: five minutes.

519
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 4: I had to eat man. But no, I was really

520
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: more concerned about what Shotty was talking about. You talked

521
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: about how what an impressive man he is, and how

522
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: you know, listening to him, you'd be you know, I'd

523
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: be very better off afterwards. And you're right, he did

524
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: a good job in regards to how he carries himself

525
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 4: as a coach, as a professional. Of course, he's got

526
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 4: a great story. His dad was, if I'm not mistaken,

527
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: was his dad considered one of those smartest guys. Didn't

528
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: have some type of accolades, academic accolades that everyone was

529
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: so impressed with when he was alive. Was that.

530
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but he was pretty sharp.

531
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I heard he was a real shop guy.

532
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: I'm talking about not just as a ballplayer, I mean

533
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 4: as a coach, but just the way he carried himself.

534
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 4: And so he's bringing that kind of professionalism as his

535
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: son to the Cowboys. Now, as far as I'm concerned,

536
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: words are nice, and I always telled you head coaches

537
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 4: are nice. I need my assistant coaches to handle their business.

538
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 4: I need them to be dogs, and I need them

539
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: to be dogs and no. Ones may not even know

540
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: their names by the end of the first year, but

541
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 4: they need to handle their business. And someone whoever we

542
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 4: bring in, whether it's a former favorites from years ago,

543
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 4: they need to come in here and take care of business.

544
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: We can't be that team because right now, because of

545
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 4: Shoddy's hiring, everyone's looking at this as just an easy

546
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 4: no nonsense. Don't want to get anybody any don't really

547
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: want to make any progress. That's the way they're looking

548
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: at this. We don't really want to make any progress.

549
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: We just want someone to just come in and do

550
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 4: Jerry's bidding. Well, he needs to show us differently, especially

551
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 4: by the way that his assistant coaches handle themselves, whoever

552
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: they are coming up for the season.

553
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: You know, the people that said what you just said, Mike,

554
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: question to them, then who do they want? Who do

555
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: you want to hire? Just tell me, because.

556
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 4: Well answer your own question. Answer your own question, all right?

557
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 4: If you were then who would you say?

558
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: I told I told you Nick Saban, But that wasn't

559
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: going to happen.

560
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 4: Well, give me some didn't.

561
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: Anybody head coaching?

562
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: No, but the names out there that people wanted to

563
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson was the hot name. He left the coordinator

564
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: and Carroll is you know.

565
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: He would have got he would have got murdered or

566
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: criticized for being going to be seventy four years old.

567
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: But that's why I asked you, That's why I wanted

568
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 4: you that I'm saying. Besides Nick Saban, you don't see

569
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 4: anyone else there.

570
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: I didn't see a head coach out there that you

571
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: could bring in and hire a potential head coach, a

572
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: head coach, not not a coordinator experience. Yes, because both

573
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: of the coordinators for Detroit did not have any head

574
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: coaching experience. And I'll guarantee you both of those things

575
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 3: were done already. They were just waiting for him to

576
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: lose to get hired.

577
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: Then John, I'm shot. If I'm shotten, Himen, I'm gonna

578
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 4: make sure that that narrative that's out there does not

579
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 4: come into fruition. That's what I'm gonna make.

580
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: It'll work his ass off.

581
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make sure that I'm gonna make everybody else

582
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: gonna work their asses off too. There won't be any

583
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: type of hey, guys, I was doing my job, but

584
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 4: then I got, you know, no excuses. I want him

585
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 4: to come through and change the culture of this team

586
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 4: because when people step into at and T Stadium, they

587
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: don't fear defense, they don't feel they fear individuals, but

588
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 4: they don't feel this team. I want to see if

589
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: that can be changed.

590
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: You have to also remember you weren't just hiring a

591
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: head coach. You had to hire an offensive coordinator, play caller.

592
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: So my question is okay, who do you want to hire?

593
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: And then who's the offensive play caller? So now you

594
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 3: get a two fer, right, he's gonna take care of

595
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: the offense. He's going to be the play caller. You

596
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: hired a defensive guy, a coordinator that had never been

597
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: a head coach. As I told you last week, my

598
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: first question to him, who's your offensive coordinator? Because that's

599
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: where your money is spent on the salary cap. Well,

600
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: you've got a transition. Now that's not very big because

601
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: when I talked to Dak after the press conference, he

602
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: was all for it. It's like, why were you there?

603
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: You know you didn't have to be there, and he said,

604
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: to support Shoddy. I mean, Shoddy means a lot to me.

605
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's been a consistent man. And he was

606
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: talking about a coach.

607
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: I don't know who those guys were. But after we

608
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 4: left here, you guys went on and I wouldn't got

609
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: some hot chocolate and all everyone walked by and it

610
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: was a few of the players and I recognized Dak

611
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 4: shake his hand and we talked. But he said, yeah,

612
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: I'm going to support, I'm going to support.

613
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: He thought it was he liked it, so that's good.

614
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 4: I saw it was. Who were the other players there?

615
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: I don't saw Tyler the guy on crutches, tall lane

616
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: guy on crutches, dark skin brother, he was on crutches

617
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 4: over show. That was Marvin. I don't recognize the guys

618
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 4: out of the uniform.

619
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: Right and uh one of the wide receivers.

620
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it was about about guy.

621
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: I think I saw rock Hoffman was there.

622
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he got some from about about guys.

623
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: And there's and there are not very many players hanging

624
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: out of course this time of the year.

625
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 4: But those that were here, they were there.

626
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 3: Right, guys probably doing their rehab.

627
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 4: They were no doubt and they say, you know what,

628
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 4: let's head on.

629
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: And they got support from his mother too, by the way,

630
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: who uh shot.

631
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: From his own mother.

632
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: Oh, she was good.

633
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: She was you were over there, the one who got

634
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: the stopped. Yeah, and the wife as well.

635
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 3: So she's mom said basically, what you see is what

636
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: you're going to get, you know, And and she's probably

637
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 3: right about that the way he would answer questions when

638
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: he was in those media Monday sessions. Yeah, so okay,

639
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: so you took care of that all right. Now, They

640
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: hired an offensive coordinator but that coordinator is going to

641
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: be like Schottenheimer was to McCarthy. Right, it was McCarthy's offense.

642
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: This will be shot and hiring.

643
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: And this tell us about this offensive Clayton Adam Adams,

644
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: who is with the Arizona Cardinals as their.

645
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: Offensive offensive line coach.

646
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: Is that what we're talking about?

647
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 10: You?

648
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: Well, he's got to know what the guy he's going

649
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: to be like the assistant he'll be and is he

650
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: more of the run run game coordinator?

651
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 4: Right?

652
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: And he's been pretty good.

653
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: And they talked about the Arizona run game last year.

654
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: Now you do have a quarterback run game with that,

655
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: and I.

656
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: Did a little different, right, Yeah.

657
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: I crunched some numbers on that, and there wasn't a

658
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: whole lot of difference between what the running backs in

659
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: Arizona did compare to what Rico Dowbell the running game here.

660
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: But if you add in the quarterback run then they

661
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: were seventh in the league and rushing.

662
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: That's not fair.

663
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: We can't exactly.

664
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the same. I mean that's like saying, oh,

665
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: the run game quarterinator in Philadelphia is really good, right, Well, yeah,

666
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: if I got a running back and the quarterback that's

667
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: going to run for eight Yeah.

668
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 4: So although that's a very experienced offensive line.

669
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: But although that run game coordinator in Philadelphia, Jeff Stoutland,

670
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: should be getting a lot more of the credit for

671
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: what's going on in Philadelphia. No offense to Kellen Moore,

672
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: but he's the guy, and he's been there for years,

673
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: and he's that offensive line. And so the big thing

674
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: is if Clayton Adams is the offense, if isn't the

675
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: offensive line coach, at least he has worked in a

676
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: system where he has been an offensive line coach, and

677
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: he respects the run game and has some schemes it's

678
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: respected as far as putting scheme together that get that

679
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: run game go.

680
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: After a week of interviews at the Super Bowl, that

681
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: guy will be the next hot candidate next year, you

682
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: think so the Philadelphia Jeff stolets Oh no, I was saying, And.

683
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: He may be a guy that he's he didn't want

684
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: to be a head coach or anything. Maybe he knows

685
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: where his place is.

686
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: So okay, So that's offense defense. We sort of knew

687
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: where they were going when Matt Eberflus bringing Fluse back.

688
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: Been here twenty thirteen through twenty seventeen four years the

689
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: defense coordinator of the Colts and then the Bears head

690
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 3: coach for two and a half two three quarter years,

691
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: however long that last season lasted. So he was a

692
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: good hand. You would have liked to kept him around,

693
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: but the Colts offered him that defensive coordinator job, So

694
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: I thought that was that was a move that was

695
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: going to happen anyway. Uh, they retained the tight end coach,

696
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 3: London defensive coordinator.

697
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: He's going to be here, he's yes.

698
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: And then they hired special teams uh Nick Sorenson.

699
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

700
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: He had been with uh Schottenheimer during his time with Seattle,

701
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: so he knew him, and then one year in Jacksonville

702
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: also so he was familiar with him. He was a

703
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 3: former special teams player defensive backs coach. I think Bill

704
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: Uh if I remember correctly. So anyway, they got that

705
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: taken care of. Saw London Wells on Friday they retained

706
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: him as the tight ends coach, and I think he's

707
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: the only one they've retained from the previous staff other

708
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: than Schottenheimer so far.

709
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: So far. So you did mention Overstreet.

710
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 3: No, I haven't got that yet. And it looks like

711
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 3: they are hiring Todd. Harcher reported they were hiring David

712
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: Overstreet the second as their dB coach. That was Iberflu's

713
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: dB coach with the Bears, and we love that.

714
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: Being an Oklahoma Sooner fans growing up.

715
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: You understand whose dad was, right, big Sandy, Oh you

716
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: first round pick of Miami. I was thinking when I

717
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: was reading this, I'm going, why don't I remember something

718
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: happened to him?

719
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: Tragic car, tragic car?

720
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: It came back. Yeah, I knew something after home.

721
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: It wasn't he on the break or something? Wasn't it

722
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: It was gas station? Yeah, but he was, he was

723
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: going going, he was, he was. It was on a break,

724
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: wasn't he. They wanted to dump my k on a break?

725
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: He was driving home and that was it.

726
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, awful he was in. But he's in the same

727
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: backfield in nineteen seventy eight with Billy Simms, a lot

728
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winner and Kenny King was the full.

729
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 4: Back past Thomas back him. Come on, he was, he was.

730
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: He was the youngster, right, he was a youngster. Yeah,

731
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 4: that's right.

732
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, speed guy right, yeah.

733
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. They was just waiting on the car.

734
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: Out of the Out of all that, they had two

735
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: first round picks in that triple option backfield.

736
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: Is that it's nice son? Direct is his son?

737
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

738
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 4: Wow?

739
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: David over Street the second and he's got some.

740
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 4: And see I never knew Davis first name. I always

741
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: just called him over Streets.

742
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, David and David over Street. I'm looking

743
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: up now, you know. He was the thirteenth pick of

744
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: the draft in nineteen eighty one. Uh and Big Sandy, Texas.

745
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: That's where Lovey Smith is from, too, And.

746
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: My dad's the best. He called him the best football

747
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: player he's ever seen. Lovey. Yeah, my dad said that

748
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: about love My dad from Washall and he loves all

749
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 4: these Texas Yeah.

750
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so Lovey would have been. He might have

751
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: crosspaths as teammates with Overstreet in high school, but I

752
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 2: want to say, you think a year or two older.

753
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 3: I think they did though. Yeah I read something on that.

754
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: But David Overstreet died tragically in that car accident at

755
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: age twenty five in nineteen eighty four.

756
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: So the other hires they made linebacker coach Dave Borganzi.

757
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: He was here as a in twenty twelve and thirteen

758
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: as like a defensive assistant and an offensive assistant, not

759
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 3: a direct position coach defensive line. Aaron Whitecotton last four

760
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 3: years was a defensive line coach with the Jets, and

761
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: he had been around Sala in San Francisco before he

762
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: brought him to the Jets and then they hired a

763
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: defense of past game coordinator. Andre Curtis had been with

764
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: Schottenheimer in Seattle. He was a pass game coordinator and

765
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: he also coached safeties with the Bears with Matt Eberflus

766
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: for the past three years.

767
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 4: You know, the Bears were known for having a stubborn defense.

768
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: They played well. Defense wasn't there And by the.

769
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: Way, and Curtis, going back over a decade ago, he

770
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: was with Spagnolo with the Giants and the Rams.

771
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: Andre Curtis, he's been around. And then our buddy Nick

772
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: Harris who's now in Fort Worth. He said that they

773
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: interviewed to Shard Choice and Rashad Samples as for the

774
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: running backs coach position that hasn't been filled. And Samples

775
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: is the son of Reginald Duncanville.

776
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: And there have been two Shard posted something over the

777
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: weekend with the hook them Horns, and people are reading

778
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: into that that he's staying at Texas, but we'll see.

779
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: But he's done a good job developing running backs at

780
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech and Texas.

781
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: Oh, he's a running back, whisper.

782
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: Jamior Gibbs at Georgia Tech before Gibbs transferred to Alabama

783
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: and then Texas. Every year they're producing first.

784
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: Or second round even when they got guys John.

785
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: Robinson, Jonathan Brooks was.

786
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: I must admit he has been connected with.

787
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 2: Some even even going back to North Texas. He said,

788
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: running backs that have Jeff Wilson has been in the

789
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: league for several years and to Shard coached him at

790
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: North Texas and a lot of it has to do

791
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 2: with recruiting too. To Shard, if you ever talked to Shard,

792
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: I mean he can go. Yeah. Lovable guy. He was

793
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: one of the first guys in my Big Green notebooks.

794
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: Okay back and when in the draft he was he.

795
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: Like that in college he's as far as the outgoing personality.

796
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: Yes, And in fact, that's what caught my eye on

797
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: him because he started to started his college career at

798
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 2: OU backing up Adrian Peterson. Yes, and then he transferred

799
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: to Georgia Tech and was and had a great career

800
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: at Georgia Tech. But what caught my eye there was

801
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: a YouTube video of to Shard giving a pregame speech

802
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: to the Georgia Tech team. I mean, he was so passionate.

803
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: I said, Man, you gotta get this guy on your team.

804
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: He's my everything or my nothing. You could find it

805
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: on YouTube. It's great. And uh and so and I

806
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: was actually I was, man, cowboys got to get this.

807
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: And sure enough I was walking out of church that

808
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: Sunday morning when they uh uh huh. And so we

809
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: became friends. When he was here, I told him that story.

810
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: And so I would love to see him here, but

811
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 2: I guess I'll secretly root for Texas.

812
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 3: He uh, he was here last year at this time

813
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: for the East when the East West Shrine Bowl. The

814
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 3: night the day before the game, they inducted guys into

815
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: their Hall of fame. Sarkisian was inducted into the East

816
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: West Shrine Bowl Hall of Fame. And he was here

817
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: with Sarkisian and he's on the phone the whole time.

818
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: I know what he's doing. He's recruiting, right, And he

819
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: saw me. He seek me out to come and say hi,

820
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: and we talked and talked and talked. He's great. We

821
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: talked running back and talked about his running back.

822
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: And you know, we talked. He called me a couple

823
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: of times when after he retired. He was trying. He

824
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: was thinking about getting into the media and doing something

825
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: in the media. But he found where he needs to be.

826
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 4: Now that's what he needs to be. Yeah, that's where

827
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: he needs to be. He can help, he can help kids,

828
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 4: help the kids.

829
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: Got anything else on your legal pat You want to

830
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: take a break and come back.

831
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we probably take it all right. I

832
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 3: think we've covered where we're at with the coaching staff.

833
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: Much more still to come, and what a great moment

834
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl on Saturday too. We'll talk about

835
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,240
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00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: it after the fact, the game winning touchdown in the Senior.

880
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: Bowl on Saturday watching you are.

881
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: Watching it as it happened. Jack Besh, the wide receiver

882
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: out of TCU, started his career at LSU, and of course,

883
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: the tragic story a month or so ago when the

884
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 2: terrorist attack in New Orleans, his brother Tiger was killed,

885
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 2: and at the Senior Bowl, he was wearing his brother's

886
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: number seven. His brother had played at Princeton.

887
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 4: I saw that, and I saw that, and all.

888
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: The players were wearing number seven decals on their helmets.

889
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: And as it turns out, a Senior Bowl comes down

890
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: to the last play of the game and the kid

891
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: from from and Ryan Hennigan throws the touchdown a nice

892
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: little pass there.

893
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: It was a nice pass in a nice little route

894
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: that he ran. It was fourth down. They went for well,

895
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: they because they could have kicked a field goal, and

896
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: they went.

897
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: For this where in the number seven. That play started

898
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: with seven seconds left.

899
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: It was unbelievable, and he catches the game winning touchdown

900
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: pass offensive MVP. They interviewed him. He got through the

901
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: interview and then his mom and dad came and it

902
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 3: was the longest hug and crying you ever seen. Daddy

903
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 3: was kissing him on the neck, Mama was holding him,

904
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: and they first production or whatever who was ever producing

905
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: the show kept it there and he didn't have to

906
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 3: say anything, just must it felt like for five minutes.

907
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 3: It wasn't but yeah.

908
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: Well, and even right after he caught the touchdown pass,

909
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: he was swarmed in the end zone, of course, and

910
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: I believe it was Brett Besch, his uncle, who's was

911
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: the assistant strength coach here, who was in the midst.

912
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: Of that and they But does he have that, Chris, Okay,

913
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 4: it was. It was.

914
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really emotional. But it was a neat

915
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 3: a neat deal to end the Senior Bowl.

916
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 2: And by the way, he kicked butt all week. I mean,

917
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: he's a guy to keep an eye on in the draft. Uh,

918
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: wide receiver, wide receiver, big bigger one, a tight.

919
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: End, wide receiver, kind of a little bit of both.

920
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: I think he playing.

921
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: Where where do they play the TCU?

922
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 4: Oh? TCU?

923
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: Yep, and uh he started his career at LSU and

924
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:35,479
Speaker 2: transferred to TCU. I'm getting his measurements right now, of course,

925
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: he I didn't get this. I don't have the Senior

926
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: Bowl measurements here in front of me. But six two

927
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: two and fifteen pounds. So he's okay, big, bigger wide receiver.

928
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see what he runs. But

929
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: you know, at the Senior Bowl they do a survey

930
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: of players in the game, like they'll survey defensive backs

931
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: on who's the best wide receiver that you went up

932
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: against or who offensive line and who's the best defensive lineman.

933
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: And Jack Besh won that wide receiver.

934
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 3: Okay, so you know what happens in those games, and

935
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 3: it happened in the for the majority. In the East

936
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: West Shrine game I went to there's not enough offensive

937
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: line when to go around. You know, it's like what

938
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 3: happens with the alternative leagues. If you can't block up front,

939
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 3: you never know how good the running back is or

940
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: how good the quarterback is because they don't get any protection.

941
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 3: And so in the one side I forgot which which

942
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 3: one it was, the East side, the East side.

943
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: But on the you're talking about the Senior.

944
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: Bowl Shrine game, yeah, they one side, the offensive line

945
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: was just terrible. So the quarterbacks didn't have a chance.

946
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 3: But uh, there was a running back Crosby Merritt. H

947
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: he had a little bit of scoot to him. He

948
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: was from, Uh, let's see if I can find it

949
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 3: real quick. I don't know, he just he did go

950
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: to the game. Yeah I did, Okay, I did. I

951
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: sat in the press box and watched for three quarters, right, Uh,

952
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: and he caught my eye. Uh. And then the quarterback

953
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: his name was sorry, sorry cam Miller, cam Miller. He

954
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: was he had some he had some scoot to him.

955
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: He threw a nice pass. Yeah, Shad Sanders obviously.

956
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if Vickey was in the Scottie group

957
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: and okay.

958
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 3: Marthako, okay, stop Dakota.

959
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

960
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got our Southeast College scout over here. He's

961
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 2: gonna give us.

962
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: Report, right, yeah, I didn't have to write stuff down, right,

963
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: he will.

964
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: Wilbur Clay calls, okay, scout, Vicky, give me a report

965
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: on this guy.

966
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 4: He was pretty good, now, cam Miller, he was balling

967
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 4: out in the playoffs, right, yes, yeah.

968
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: So, uh, you know he had some protection. The other

969
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 3: side didn't have much protection.

970
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 2: What was that running necks name?

971
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: What was the running name?

972
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: Rosby Merritt.

973
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 2: No, it's Corey Crosskey Merritt Crosskey.

974
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't write it down, well, Frosky merrit Arizona, Arizona,

975
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: number thirty one. He was pretty good.

976
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: Well you know how many yards he ran for this

977
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 2: past season?

978
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: How many?

979
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 2: One hundred and six?

980
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 4: Dang?

981
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: Well about ran und six in the in the Shrine Bowl.

982
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: Vickey you can spot him.

983
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: That's right.

984
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: You watched apparently he was hurt. He had thirteen carries

985
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: for one hundred and six okay, so that was eight

986
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 2: yards to carry, so small sample size and we were

987
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 2: able to that's right.

988
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: I can tell how when I see it. And maybe

989
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: the best part was when they interviewed uh Chaudeur Sanders

990
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 3: afterwards and they were saying what was it like? And

991
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: he said, you know, he got my dad. He said

992
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: he kept calling me and calling me and calling me,

993
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: and he said I finally said, hey, look I got

994
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: to do this on my own. He goes, he goes.

995
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: My dad's got separation anxiety.

996
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 4: That was That was the best line of the week.

997
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 4: You know.

998
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: One of the things that I look at when I

999
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 2: especially like a quarterback, but every position is how they

1000
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: handle interviews and stuff. And Chaudeurs got You can tell

1001
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 2: how bright they are by the way they handled interviews.

1002
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 4: A lot of times, well they had to handle themselves

1003
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,479
Speaker 4: in their own home dealing with their dad.

1004
00:53:59,480 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 2: I try.

1005
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 4: You gotta go for tab with Pops.

1006
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: Schader checks that box, you know, And as far as

1007
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: you can tell the kind of the poise that they

1008
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: have and everything, and so I've already in my big

1009
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: green notebook. I've already checked. Okay, he's fine as far

1010
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: as I.

1011
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: Don't think he's got the tools already made. But I

1012
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 4: think his uh stick to itiveness allows him to be

1013
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 4: as good as he is.

1014
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: I saw his mentality in.

1015
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 4: Regards to finishing a play, making a play. It may

1016
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 4: it may not come from him having so many physical tools,

1017
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 4: but up here and right here he's got right, he's

1018
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: got it.

1019
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: I saw drafts, somebody's mock draft. They had him going first.

1020
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that.

1021
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: Who's got the Tennessee Tennessee cam or the quarterback from

1022
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: Miami is also taught.

1023
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: I had him going second.

1024
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 4: Now he's the one that's got the traditional Yes.

1025
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 2: We there are so many teams in the top even

1026
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: before the Cowboys pick at number twelve that need quarterbacks

1027
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: that kind of help the Cowboys quarterbacks go earlier than

1028
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 2: they should go. Now, as it turns out, this year,

1029
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks that went and there were five of them

1030
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: that went in the top twelve picks or whatever it was,

1031
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: they deserve to go up there. And they it's evidenced

1032
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: by Bo Nicks and how he did with Denver. He

1033
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: was the last of that bunch. Now this year they're

1034
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: going to be overdrafted as of need yeah and so

1035
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: and so. Now you got what what happens when you

1036
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: draft a quarterback in the top ten. Now they get

1037
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: thrown in sooner than they should be they usually Now

1038
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: in the case of Patrick Mahomes, he went tenth overall

1039
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: and he got the city year, and that I think

1040
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: probably helped him immntually. Who knows, maybe they would have

1041
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl that year if they would have

1042
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 2: played him and said, Alex Smith.

1043
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 4: Oh you could have broken you could's right, yeah, you

1044
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 4: could be the one. Yeah the other I see, I see,

1045
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 4: you should do a mean. He reminds me of like

1046
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 4: he's got the ad living ability of Brett Forth. And

1047
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 4: that's a good thing. I don't mean Brett Fath reckless.

1048
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 4: I mean his ability to stick with the play. I'm

1049
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 4: not going to give up on the play.

1050
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: And he has had to deal with some bad offensive line.

1051
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 4: Yes he had.

1052
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: He's got good, no doubt, and he's taking a beating.

1053
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: Yes, And I don't want to see I don't want

1054
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 4: to see.

1055
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: The other quarterback that stood out on the west side

1056
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 3: it was, uh, some guy named Brady Cook.

1057
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: From Missouri.

1058
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 3: From Missouri.

1059
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, throw that out. He's good.

1060
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: He's got a nice arm. He's not going to be

1061
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 3: big enough, or they don't. I don't know how much

1062
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: they value his arm, but he.

1063
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: Will say when you came in here throughout the season,

1064
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: I thought you were down on bread.

1065
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 3: No I was not. He got hurt. They had to

1066
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 3: play the backup.

1067
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: Okay, it was.

1068
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 3: The only reason they lost a game or two because

1069
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 3: they had to play the backup, the one that came

1070
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 3: back and got heard against Auburn and came back valiantly

1071
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter to well lead to victory. I

1072
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 3: know you won a game that right, you win every game.

1073
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: Inexplicably fumbled the football away with less than two minutes

1074
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: to go.

1075
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: You got to have good defense.

1076
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: No, I had nothing to do with the defense. He

1077
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: just fumbled the football away.

1078
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 10: By the way, the reason why that some mock draft

1079
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 10: had Sidor going number one is because the new general manager,

1080
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 10: Mike Berganzi, which is Dave Brother, made comments this weekend

1081
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 10: about Shador, saying that he is the right guy and smart,

1082
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 10: engaging and the right guy to lead this football.

1083
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: Team and Tennessee was there in Denton interviewing.

1084
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 10: So that's why people start quotes and he's going to

1085
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 10: go down just because he.

1086
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 4: Just talked to him.

1087
00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one.

1088
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 10: They move him around as they go when they start

1089
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 10: asking about players and they try to te leaves, you know.

1090
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: So that's a media for you.

1091
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 3: And by the way you threw this out, I want

1092
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 3: to say last week we were talking about.

1093
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: About me predicting that Luca was going to be traded out.

1094
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got that one.

1095
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 3: We're going back to football about looking for an offensive coordinator,

1096
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 3: looking for an offensive coordinator, and you said, wha, what

1097
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: about hiring Chip Kelly? Ohio State got hired by the Raiders.

1098
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: Raiders Tom Brady hired Chip Kelly to be his offensive.

1099
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: Course, there you go, Brady's doing all the highing. There's

1100
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 3: something wrong there, right TV. And also so.

1101
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: Does Brady gonna hire going to draft the Ohio State

1102
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: quarterback to play for Chip Kelly.

1103
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 4: That's the first thing I thought, Well.

1104
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: I got like the six pick in the draft something.

1105
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 3: Like that, and he's he's he's upright. That guy's played

1106
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 3: eight years in now. Yeah, I think what's his name?

1107
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 3: Will Howard is that it will.

1108
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: That sounds great.

1109
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's he used to be at he was

1110
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 3: in the state state, right.

1111
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: No, I know, I just liked it.

1112
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 3: He was playing. He probably knows where he went to

1113
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 3: high school and what their mascot was, Gil Brandt.

1114
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: All right, we got one minute your one minute warning?

1115
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 2: That was it was stretched out to five Mickey's on Sunday?

1116
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: Is there a super Bowl?

1117
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 4: No?

1118
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: On Sunday? Who's gonna win the Dallas Open?

1119
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 4: That sons going to ask? Who's going to Dallas something?

1120
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 4: You're gonna go?

1121
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: TFO TFO Francis TFO Jerry there at seven o'clock? Will

1122
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 3: be he does tonight night?

1123
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 4: Ye?

1124
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: Will Jerry be there to present the trophy? Or will

1125
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: he be in the super city of New Orleans?

1126
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: Are they they've already started this afternoon right or right?

1127
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1128
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: They start actually right now right now?

1129
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: Twelve wins your match?

1130
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you're a big tens. I know they do.

1131
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: Did you make the celebrity for doubles?

1132
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: They didn't ask. I don't know. Yeah, I played to

1133
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: everon or I could have gone out the celebrity tennis Well,

1134
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 3: more like a program.

1135
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 4: We'll look like pickleball players.

1136
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: I mean next Monday morning, the courts will still be

1137
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: up there. I got got y'all report early next Monday morning,

1138
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: and we'll get some video of y'all playing each other

1139
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: in the real championship crowds.

1140
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 4: He won't be able to get all.

1141
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: Right, think does it?

1142
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 4: Uh?

1143
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: You got a winner this Sunday, the real game, Jeeves.

1144
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to Texans also.

1145
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: Me too. I just something about that's it my homes

1146
01:00:53,960 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 3: right and read that's bag and spags because defense it's wins.

1147
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: Yep, that's right. And we've made it through that without

1148
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: mentioning the team that they're playing against here on Dallas

1149
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: Cowboys dot Com. So we'll be here to wrap it

1150
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: all up next Monday morning at eleven on mix Shots,

1151
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: Oh Cowboys.

1152
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

1153
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,840
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