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Speaker 1: Enjoy the episode. Bye. Podcast starts. Now what's up everyone

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Speaker 1: around the globe? You're listening to Stradio Lab and Hello

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Speaker 1: and hello. We have just had a lunch.

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Speaker 2: We both went to different food carts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it actually felt very Austin. Yeah, we both into

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Speaker 1: different food carts. I got the Lawful and of course

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Speaker 1: I got tie And which is so us? It was

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Speaker 1: not even question should we eat of the same food truck?

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Speaker 1: We said, no, I'm going here, you going here. I

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Speaker 3: Yes, I completely agree. It is that thing that people

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Speaker 3: say that we're like. Intimacy is being able to be

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Speaker 3: with each other but not speak. Yeah, which we don't

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Speaker 3: necessarily do as much.

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Speaker 1: No, we are speaking.

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Speaker 3: We are speaking, but then when it's time, we know

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Speaker 3: where we differ and like we will silently just go

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Speaker 3: you know, I will.

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Speaker 2: I will go into what's an example of something that

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Speaker 2: is different for us.

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Speaker 1: You can't do this to me. I know.

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Speaker 3: I was about to be like, I will go into

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Speaker 3: the Jake Crew and it's like you own JA Crew

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Speaker 3: than I do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's not point fingers.

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Speaker 3: No, I actually think you're some ravenous for j Cru

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Speaker 3: That's not true. You have literally fifteen of those giant chinos.

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Speaker 2: I have three. That is a lot.

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Speaker 1: You need different color.

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Speaker 3: Why am I stigmatizing your giant chinos? I can't believe

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Speaker 3: you're doing this to me on my I know, I

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Speaker 1: The thing is you're right, like you forget with pants.

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Speaker 1: It's so hard because they actually last longer than you think.

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Speaker 1: You think, like, oh, I'm gonna wear these for this year,

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Speaker 1: and so it's like, but no, I'm actually gonna wear

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Speaker 1: them for like five years. So now I have these

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Speaker 3: I wonder if I'll ever know how to dress myself,

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Speaker 3: or if this is I'm gonna be, you know, ninety

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Speaker 3: these fit?

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Speaker 1: Well, you're on your you're ninety gute on your deathbed,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, work wear is over, and yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: wearing work with I you know, I'm wearing tiny little

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Speaker 2: And you wore them yesterday or the other recording we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I want to say it's a very conscious

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Speaker 1: But I said, actually, they're so out there's something almost

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Speaker 1: fun about it. I agree, and so I was like,

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Speaker 1: that could be a little twist. There's edge in them. Again.

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Speaker 2: Something people don't talk about is trends.

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Speaker 3: Aside the short length that looks good on you actually

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: Some people have better calves, some people have better thighs,

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Speaker 3: it's a losing battle to be chasing short length trends. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it's a very like defensive thing it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have long shorts that I wear. I'm

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Speaker 1: not above a trend. Of course, of course I'm human.

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Speaker 2: We both have the post lunch sleepies. We have to

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Speaker 2: address that. I'm sorry, words are not coming to me.

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Speaker 1: No, but this I have words. Let we finished the slot, ok,

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Speaker 1: and then we can talk about we say so. But

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Speaker 1: there's something that feels as as we all know, branding

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Speaker 1: now we can talk about your your You are sleepy.

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Speaker 1: You are literally unable to think of a word, and

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Speaker 3: Sorry you're saying, I'm upset you think that having long

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Speaker 3: makes you feel like you are not on brand.

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Speaker 1: It's beyond the brand, George. It makes me feel like

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're but you're also wearing sometimes formal shoes

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Speaker 1: But that's different. I'm saying that there's something about the

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So short length like an astrological sign or

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Speaker 3: like a birthday or something like that. Like it is,

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Speaker 3: it's a break from reality when you go with different

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Speaker 3: shot exactly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think that. I think that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Would you say, though, that that is the case for

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Speaker 3: like a conscious decision when someone you know that's wearing

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Speaker 1: I do, and I do think it's that's why it's

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Speaker 3: I almost think there should be a kind of doula

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Speaker 3: that like a clothing doula, where you say, you say

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Speaker 3: like to be at a place where my pants are

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Speaker 3: they say, okay, we can work on a plant.

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Speaker 1: We will be dilating your pants.

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Speaker 3: We will be dilating your pants over the next six month.

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Speaker 3: And you can download this app. It's fifty a month

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Speaker 3: and it will give you and you can and we

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Speaker 1: Work with, and you return all the pants, return the pants.

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Speaker 3: It's very sustainable and eco friendly, and we collaborate with

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Speaker 1: And but in six months, people won't even notice that

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Speaker 2: They'll just be like, you look really.

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Speaker 1: Good for some reason. Hmmm, to read our guest, are

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Speaker 2: No, I'm into I mean I do.

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Speaker 3: I think it was the smartest thing I've said so far.

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Speaker 3: And finally I was on a roll and now you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. I just feel like our guest

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Speaker 1: I was like curious to hear what the first.

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Speaker 2: Be sure where?

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Speaker 3: Well, we should get someone else's perspective, someone who is

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Speaker 3: not currently wearing pants or shorts.

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Speaker 1: Even that's true, there's a third choice.

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Speaker 2: There's a third choice. There's actually many more choices.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that feeling when there's many more choices.

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Speaker 2: Hereiod, So please welcome Joe Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Guys, Do not get me started on skirt and on dress.

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Speaker 4: We'll be here all freaking night. But can I can

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Speaker 4: we actually go back to something?

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Speaker 5: This is okay?

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Speaker 4: Well fuck, okay already so okay, of course I was

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Speaker 4: giving you all kinds of faces. Yeah, but you know

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Speaker 4: what I was thinking while you were talking, is I'm

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Speaker 4: so grateful that I don't have to weigh in yet

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Speaker 4: that with the faces I was trying to give you. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I guess, just some active listening, just some keep going.

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Speaker 4: You were making some amazing points.

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Speaker 5: I had no idea where I stoop, but you just okay,

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Speaker 5: this is what I Okay, Sam Taggart, nice to meet

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Speaker 5: you right today. Day one. I don't want to say

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Speaker 5: I don't want to disrespect you.

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Speaker 4: Of course, you know what long, long long time I've

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Speaker 4: been with you guys, since day one, since episode freaking one. WHOA,

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Speaker 4: So I know that you don't take disrespect on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: We have actually more than you might think me, especially.

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Speaker 4: Recently, George takes more disrespect than Sam.

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Speaker 5: And so I need to be careful.

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Speaker 3: And would you say that I actually have the opposite reputation.

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Speaker 3: It's like people would think I would take less disrespect,

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Speaker 3: but in fact I take more.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Because you're like the smarty pants one.

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Speaker 2: No, because I'm like, see, I like sort of.

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Speaker 1: See, that's not disrespect.

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Speaker 3: That's not DISRESPECTO like the idea that I'm more like particular,

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Speaker 2: Sam is more chill, Presents is more chill, is what

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's almost why I don't take disrespect

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Speaker 3: Thank you you physically, Oh wait, go ahead, I take

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Speaker 4: So I just want to be careful because this might

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm bracing myself.

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Speaker 4: Can we please go back to Sam's idea of the

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Speaker 4: one year pant I'm like, how much money have you

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Speaker 4: had every single minute of your life that you five pants?

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Speaker 4: And you think I'll have these for this year.

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Speaker 1: No, no, No, you're thinking, what is that?

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Speaker 2: It's different for guys, but I don't know what are

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Speaker 1: It's not that I actually it's it's like, it's sort

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Speaker 1: no matter where it is. Yes, it's like I don't

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Speaker 1: if someone put a gun to my head and it was like,

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Speaker 1: how long will these pants last? Obviously I don't think

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Speaker 1: between the three and four years.

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Speaker 5: But I think I'm shocked. For me, the default is

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Speaker 5: my lifetime.

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Speaker 4: Anytime anything has happened to any piece of clothing, it's like,

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Speaker 4: it's it's unbearable to me.

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Speaker 2: You're wearing clothes that you owned seven years ago.

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Speaker 5: Mmmm.

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Speaker 4: Definitely some items and definitely like if I can't like

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Speaker 4: if I've lost them or there's some kind of stain

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Speaker 4: or something. It's very confusing to me and distressing.

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Speaker 3: Trying so hard not to bring agent to this because

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Speaker 3: you know that's in the back of my mind. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what will happen? What will happen when you

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Speaker 2: The No, I'm not even talking about that happens.

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Speaker 3: That does happen, course, But what happens is as you

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Speaker 3: these periods where suddenly you wake up and you're like, oh, no,

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Speaker 3: Of the every single photograph of myself from the past,

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Speaker 3: And see, here's what's going to happen, or here's what

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Speaker 5: You have some chops to get that. Yeah, cool, How

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked. I'm trying to gauge on a

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Speaker 3: You're catching us in an insecure moment. I think for

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Speaker 4: Bit because that I am sensing like I don't think

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Speaker 2: And what is it? Stop leaving me voicemails?

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Speaker 5: I mean, for me, it's an ideation, Like, how about

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Speaker 5: What it's too soon to bring that up with.

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Speaker 3: Whereas I thought the issue was the ideation, like thinking

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Speaker 5: You can idate about all kinds of things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, how much would it help my life

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Speaker 5: And the methods with which I got to come myself?

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you guys, I've had this like, whenever

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Speaker 1: I get really bummed out, I sing this song oh please.

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Speaker 1: key a lot of stuff. It's original. I wrote it

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Speaker 1: while I was walking dogs and Okay, I remember being like,

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Speaker 3: How do you guys feel about suicide humor? I think

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Speaker 5: I think it's tough because I think it's just hard

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Speaker 5: I'm like, here we go, yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for saying it, because I was like, Jesus

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Speaker 1: But I'm more mean, like in the sort of like

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Speaker 1: And now I think people are like, oh, you can

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Speaker 3: So maybe that's why now I'm like, well, don't say that,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Sure, it's no longer I am.

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Speaker 3: I used to think people were so sensitive about it,

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Speaker 3: let's actually aim higher with gallows humor. There are actually

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Speaker 3: more grotesque things we can joke about that can that

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Speaker 5: No, that's totally how I feel like when I started,

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Speaker 4: Now it's like you and everybody Anthony, yeah is in

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Speaker 4: killed himself. They want to got him. But now, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we need more interesting humor about death.

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Speaker 2: Is death even taboo anymore? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Right right? Like, yeah, like is anything taboo?

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Speaker 1: So this is the thing.

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Speaker 3: It's like, when religion is no longer uh sacred, when

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Speaker 3: trying to undercut?

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Speaker 1: This is a stretch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a stretch.

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Speaker 1: Is sincerity taboo?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's interesting. David Foster Wallace Alert. So, like,

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Speaker 2: where did you get.

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Speaker 4: That idea that sincerity's taboo? Did somebody make fun of you?

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Speaker 1: No? I feel that. I just it's like not in

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Speaker 1: I think it's like it's not like taboo, like I'm offended,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I hear that. I hear that.

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Speaker 3: But that's funny because that almost makes it even more taboo.

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Speaker 1: Well, well I do like modern family, but it's see,

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Speaker 1: we can't do it because when we say when like literally,

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Speaker 2: Joke, Yes, because you have a mustache, because.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what do you mean you're you're one of

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Speaker 3: Well also, of course you're doing the like ironic hipster

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Speaker 4: Right, Maybe I'm still distracted by the ideas, But I'm like,

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Speaker 4: You guys, maybe there's maybe there's like elements of social

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Speaker 4: I do the thing of being like I'm an immigrant.

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Speaker 4: It's like, right, but you've lived here like pretty much

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Speaker 5: Said I like modern family, I'd be.

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Speaker 2: Like, great, oh you're saying you wouldn't take that as like.

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Speaker 5: A But also I don't know stuff what no like culturally.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't sound right, that doesn't sound right to me.

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Speaker 5: I feel that I struggle, what.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that is? What do you think what

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Speaker 3: Someone brought up that you didn't know were like a

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Speaker 4: With, like everything, like everything, let me think, let me

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Speaker 1: Like if I'm like spice girls, I can't picture them.

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Speaker 2: You can't picture the Spice girls.

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Speaker 1: Now that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Sorry to attack you.

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Speaker 5: No, is this helping? Is this helping? My claim?

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Speaker 2: So that is actually I really tell you what.

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Speaker 5: Their races are. Really, I don't know if we should

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Speaker 3: I no, no, this is really amazing stuff. And also, okay,

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Speaker 3: I want to say one thing. Disrespect is huge for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: For some it's.

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Speaker 5: That's that is a big part of it. I will say.

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Speaker 4: The underside of the fear of disrespect is the shame

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Speaker 5: Are you guys not afraid of disrespecting people?

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Speaker 3: It's I certainly it's not my top it's it's not

440
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Speaker 3: I don't want to it's not top five.

441
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Speaker 5: Have you recently felt disrespected, because I think it's also

442
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 5: a bit orry.

443
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 3: Fearing being disrespected is different than fearing your disrespectful.

444
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 4: But I think part of my fear of disrespecting people

445
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: comes from every once in a while, I do feel disrespected, and.

446
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 2: You feel how bad that feels. So you're like, I

447
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to do that to someone else.

448
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 5: It's a bit of that.

449
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sometimes though, being disrespected can like unlock a like

450
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: revenge fantasy for me where I'm like, if I disrespect

451
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you maybe disrespected me now, but checking

452
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: with me in three years when I am the biggest

453
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: singer in the.

454
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 5: World, like, and that's motivating.

455
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: I would actually go even far. That's motivating, motivating.

456
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: Sorry, I thought you made up a word. For a second,

457
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I need to hear more.

458
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, I wish.

459
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 3: I would go farther than what you're saying, which is

460
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 3: when I am disrespected in conversation, I e. It's so

461
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 3: weight off my shoulders because I no longer have to

462
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: impress this person or or or keep the volley going,

463
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like because I they have

464
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 3: broken the social contract. They have disrespected me, so I

465
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: don't have to maintain a level of civility.

466
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 5: Okay, can I tell you why I disagree? Wait, but go,

467
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 5: we'll save mine.

468
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Speaker 1: It's also if you are feeling self conscious in a

469
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: space of like does anyone here disrespect me? And then

470
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: if someone's disrespectful, then you're kind of like, see I

471
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: was right.

472
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 4: Oh okay, let me Yeah, okay. I'm going to bring

473
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 4: in an element that I'm realizing right now.

474
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 5: It's very true. There's an element of disrespect that is

475
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 5: tense to me. In a way that's a bit horny

476
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 5: and a bit exciting.

477
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: Oh and I think.

478
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 4: That's also like actually to break it down, when I'm saying,

479
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 4: like I'm about to say this and I might disrespect you,

480
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 4: like that is a method.

481
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: Of flirting to me, this makes so much sense to me.

482
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 4: And so you saying that it makes you pull back.

483
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, no, my strategy's maybe not working.

484
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: Well, No, I would never happen with you because I

485
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 3: have I assume the best intentions with you. I'm saying

486
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: if i'm and also when I'm.

487
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 5: Going there's playspect versus.

488
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, well of course, but even further than play, there's

489
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: just like it can be genuine disrespect coming from a friend.

490
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: But you're like, okay, but I know what you were

491
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: trying to say, Like, it's it can someone people have

492
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: friends of mine or people I like have disrespected me,

493
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 3: and I have a moment where I'm like do I

494
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 3: want to get mad? And I'm like, no, you just

495
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: you overlook it and it's fine, but you know when

496
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: it's coming from a negative place.

497
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: Of course, the horniness of disrespect I do kind of get.

498
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: But you were doing it in like a because we

499
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: never met it's like a fun way to be like,

500
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: we're actually much closer than you think, Like, yeah, yeah,

501
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: and I do appreciate it for that what that is.

502
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 4: And I do feel, of course I'm in a parasocial

503
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 4: relationship with you. Like you guys hung out with your

504
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 4: own friends yesterday. I was like, oh, they didn't.

505
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 5: Think to invite me. Okay, noted, I'm free.

506
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: But.

507
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: So I you have felt disrespected in the past, this

508
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: is why you fear disrespecting others.

509
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 5: I don't think it's the main reason. Yeah, but it's

510
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 5: one of the reasons.

511
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: Is it, Like, did you grow up in a household

512
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: where disrespect.

513
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,239
Speaker 4: Was a huge Here we go, here we go. Well

514
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 4: that's the main reason, of course, Yeah, clear as day. Yeah, yeah, yes,

515
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 4: And I think I also maybe one of the things

516
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: I ought to unlearn.

517
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 5: I think I do. But it's also.

518
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 4: Oka I feel like this is also like a Gonian

519
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 4: or even like colonial British lens through which I view

520
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: the world that when I walk into a room, I

521
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 4: am kind of assessing various social hierarchies.

522
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: Huh.

523
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is your podcast. Yeah, I'm a guest

524
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: on your podcast. I've already wronged you guys probably one, two, three, four,

525
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: four to six ways already and you know we're just

526
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 4: getting started.

527
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 5: You're older than me, you're privatised.

528
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but I would say, I mean, I also

529
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I also am like hierarchy brained, yeah, and

530
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't like sometimes I wish I wasn't like I

531
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: hate that. I'm like walking to his space and I'm like, okay,

532
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: they have this, they have this, I have this, and

533
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it makes me feel bad.

534
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: Okay.

535
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: Something I will say about more broadly our industry is,

536
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 3: on the one hand, it is disorienting that at any

537
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: given point the hierarchies can change, quote unquote. On the

538
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: other hand, I actually fundamentally find it kind of nice

539
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 3: that it's not so rigid. I mean, it can be

540
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 3: really disorienting if suddenly a nineteen year old I've never

541
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: heard of I hear that they are the number one

542
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: touring comedian in the country, right because.

543
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: They apply gotten TikTok er.

544
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 3: Yes, that is obviously a little disorienting, but like, would

545
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: I rather live in that buy that, like the ticket sales?

546
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: Does this ticket sales speak for themselves?

547
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that person still isn't above me. In the hierarchy.

548
00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what.

549
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: You're No, that's true. This is something that I find

550
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: particularly complicated not to go there.

551
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's there now as a listener. You

552
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: know what he's gonna.

553
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Because it's just like people love to be like, no,

554
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: you're lower in the hierarchy because they are they have

555
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: this job, and I'm like, well, you misunderstand. I don't

556
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: respect that job, and and I'm like, I'm actually interesting,

557
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: and so they're like, it's like an interesting there's something

558
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: where I'm like, which is part of maybe why I

559
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: don't fit in. I don't feel like I fit in

560
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: over there because I don't believe in that hierarchy.

561
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 5: Completely agree.

562
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 4: And that's also a place where I get disrespectful where

563
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 4: I'm hierarchy brain. But it's my own higher yes, totally totally,

564
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 4: and it's not the one that others have agreed to.

565
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: And so when you are when you okay, this is interesting,

566
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: this is interesting, This is interesting.

567
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 5: Oh what a relief?

568
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 1: Could you imagine?

569
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 5: What the podat?

570
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else?

571
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 5: Yeah?

572
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: This is quite boring.

573
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: You have fear disrespecting people that in your personal hierarchy

574
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: are higher than you.

575
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 4: I think so, And I think there's also gosh even

576
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 4: to go here. I think there's a bit of sick

577
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 4: satisfaction in elevating someone from the hierarchy or from a place.

578
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 5: Do you know? Do you see what I'm saying? Like

579
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 5: where someone?

580
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: I like the feeling of giving reverence to someone who's

581
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: maybe not expecting it from me.

582
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: Whoa? Whoa?

583
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: Do you think we weren't expecting it from me? Well?

584
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 5: Were you expecting it from me?

585
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect. I was just coming

586
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: in with an open mind and saying, people love Joe.

587
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, people do love Joe. I was expecting it a

588
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: little bit.

589
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 5: But I love that it's third person.

590
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: Know, first of all, we love Joe, but also I

591
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: was expected litterally because we've talked about how.

592
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: You are, so I knew. I knew that coming. Ah.

593
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: If we hadn't talked about that, then I'd be like, well,

594
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: they might not even know who we are, and that's

595
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: also fine, and that's also valid. And maybe in your

596
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: personal hierarchy, were kind of footage not found because we're

597
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: neither lower nor higher.

598
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: No, if a Brooklyn comedian doesn't know about you, guys,

599
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: I don't thank you for specifying.

600
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: Thank you for specifying that.

601
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 5: So see and how fun was that?

602
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: Yes, and that was playful disrespect and it's also true

603
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: and it's also true like yeah, no, the way that

604
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: it's night and day.

605
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, oh my god, sorry, yeah what the way that?

606
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: The way that what? We're just mad at me? And

607
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: he's right, this is boring, but it's just like the

608
00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: way that in Los Angeles, I'm like constantly disrespected.

609
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: You don't realize sometimes is that so many LA based

610
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: people are listening to everything you're saying, and they're like

611
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: writing on a little piece of paper, putting in their

612
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: back pockets. They're saying, this is how Sam feels about

613
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: all of us. You are speaking when you're on the podcast,

614
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: you're speaking as though you're talking to a friend, and

615
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: you're gossiping about all the people in LA. You have

616
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: no idea that it's all going back to them, because

617
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: you know what they're all doing. They're texting in group chats.

618
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: That's their number one form of entertainment over there.

619
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, they should be focusing on the TV shows.

620
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 5: I've never been to LA. I wonder about their lifestyle

621
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 5: that they have.

622
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: Over We can't get into it because they're listening. And

623
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: also because approximately seventy percent of our.

624
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: Podcast is theizing about the lifestyle with people in LA.

625
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: Can I say something please? Part of me doesn't believe

626
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: you when you say you don't know the Spice girls.

627
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: That's interesting.

628
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm I and I and now I'm really sorry to

629
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: be disrespectful because I hate that my mind goes there

630
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: and it shows that I am distressful with people, and

631
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: it shows that I I'm looking around and I'm like, okay,

632
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: so who's being fake and who's being real?

633
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 5: I know I know what to say to you. I

634
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 5: know what to say to you.

635
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: I can admit a moment when I have lied in

636
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: order to convince you that now I'm telling.

637
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: You the truth. Okay, okay, okay.

638
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: The other day I posted you said we should talk

639
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: about this. I posted on my Instagram.

640
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 2: Story this was crazy.

641
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: Actually, go ahead, I said, I said, girl, why did

642
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 4: I just find out who Natalie Portman is? It was

643
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: a video that I saw Natalie Portman doing a door

644
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: ad in the Brussels airport and then I said, girl,

645
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: I thought this was Molly Shannon.

646
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: Now here's my question for you.

647
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 5: Sixty percent true?

648
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: How is that sixty percent you had heard the name

649
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: but didn't sixty percent true.

650
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 5: I'm a storyteller. I'm a storyteller. You think I haven't

651
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 5: seen that movie where she plays the bird black Slaw.

652
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: So okay, But but did you not know her name

653
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: or you had heard the name but had an associated.

654
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: With that face.

655
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: No, I knew the name and I knew the face,

656
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: but I forgot and then imagine my But then who's

657
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: in my head instead? Molly Shannon comedian And then I'm

658
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: in the airport, I'm seeing this video.

659
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 5: I was like, the hell is that?

660
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Speaker 2: Okay?

661
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Speaker 4: And then we and then it's you know, I would say,

662
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: I'm very practiced in the art of going viral on

663
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: Instagram stories day in, day out.

664
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know you can go viral

665
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: on Instagram stories.

666
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

667
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: It's not a shareable media.

668
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 4: Actually, if we could monetize Instagram stories, I would live

669
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: a one year pant kind of a lifestyle.

670
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: Having my pants for many years. By the way, I

671
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: just I want the record. I feel like the facts

672
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: are getting lost. My pants are lasting four years. One

673
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: of my pairs of jeans has lost all form in

674
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: a cool way where it's now like just bag baggy,

675
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: and I wear those all the time still, but a

676
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: cowboy boot with those, that's a fun look. The other pair,

677
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: which was the the Kreme de la Krem imagine, Yeah,

678
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: and and they've lost their form in a way that's

679
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: just formless and bad. It looks a little saggy, it.

680
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: Looks a little no, I assume it looks a little bad.

681
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: In the butt, it's I.

682
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: Have a parent.

683
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: I have beans that I only wear at home. They're

684
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: actually so stretchy that they're almost like sweatpants.

685
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: Now.

686
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: And if you ever had a doubt that your clothing

687
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: can literally make your body look different, when I tell

688
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: you my butt looks literally as flat as a board,

689
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: it's it's it's like an optical illusion. Like it's almost

690
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: like if I was cast as a character of guy

691
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: with flat ass, I would look amazing.

692
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: In those pants.

693
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 5: What's your dream role?

694
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: My dream roll guy with flat ass? What is my

695
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: dream role?

696
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 5: It's a quiz question. Okay, here's a podcast.

697
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you to be in a Bond movie

698
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: as like the guy who the guy who introduced all

699
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: the gadgets.

700
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: Oh that's good, I could cool. I don't have a

701
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: lot of range as an actor, but I definitely could

702
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 3: do a sort of pretty even keeled performance with one.

703
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: Oh look at that? Can I? Well, I don't know

704
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 5: how much I want to dig into the Spice girl's

705
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 5: business because I think I might get very I fear

706
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 5: the vitriol of the internet. I do want to ask.

707
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: We don't have angry fans or angry listeners.

708
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 5: I will say your listeners are loving, but they could

709
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 5: what if they appear from somewhere else? Or I can't

710
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 5: be like because I'm putting other people in my group.

711
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 5: There needs to be bravery sending people's podcast clips to

712
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 5: my friends.

713
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's better to be talked about than not talked about.

714
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what we keep finding out.

715
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: So what was? What? What say more about this?

716
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: But you also just can't be You can't be thinking

717
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: people on the internet are going to be mad at me.

718
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: Otherwise you'll never say anything interesting in your life. And

719
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you all of us?

720
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Speaker 5: Okay, I needed that bit of with you. Yeah, God,

721
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 5: what the spikes cross?

722
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

723
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 5: What are they? Okay? I'm assuming these are three women?

724
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: Incorrect? Yeah you have one market?

725
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: Yes, guess like, like, what country are they from? Well?

726
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 5: I was going to ask you, what are the races

727
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 5: on these women?

728
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: What country do you think they're from?

729
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: I think that's an easier start.

730
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 5: By golly, I hope the United States.

731
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: You are lying? Are you lying so bad you can't say?

732
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 6: By golly, I hope the United States and have us

733
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Speaker 6: believe you.

734
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 5: This is what I say that I lied about Natalie

735
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 5: portmant a bit.

736
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: Yes, but now you're not going about this question.

737
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 4: Yes, because that was an instance where you know, I

738
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: forgot who she was for a second, but I figured

739
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: she looks a bit like Molly Shannon, and people will

740
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Speaker 4: enjoy this.

741
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: I just want to say, for the record, she looks

742
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: nothing like and we have to be honest about.

743
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 1: That, like I love what you're doing, like.

744
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 3: I love Molly Shannon, and I love Natalie Cortman, and

745
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: I of course love Dior. But we have to kind

746
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: of fight back against this new stereotype that Natalie Cortman

747
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: looks like mal Shannon has never been.

748
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 5: Are you okay?

749
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: To me?

750
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 5: She just looks like a slightly we could be Mally

751
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 5: Shannon's cousin. Well, I look that much like you, don't.

752
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 2: They don't look like I like to you, I think they.

753
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 5: Are all Little Bob's.

754
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: I mean they could be they could play they could

755
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: play relatives. They could play relatives.

756
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 5: Think our song? Yes, did Bob? So the color be

757
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 5: the ball? I know about that?

758
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, they could play relatives. Okay, Okay, so you

759
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 4: agree they look similar?

760
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: So do you don't? Do you know? What? Do you

761
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: know any Spice Girls music?

762
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 5: Jesus, so they're not from the United States.

763
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 3: There's I actually I keep wanting to tell you about them,

764
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: but I I sort of want to not I don't

765
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: want to.

766
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: I'm not going to answer any questions about that.

767
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: Gosh, oh my gosh, listeners, here's my defenses. I grew

768
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 4: up in like a Kimmy Schmidt kind of a situation.

769
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: What was your situation anymore? But also only for comfortable.

770
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 4: Sure, I wasn't allowed to watch a lot of stuff, No,

771
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: that's fair, and consume a lot of stuff, and a

772
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 4: lot of it was like under the radar, and a

773
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 4: lot of my cultural references during my upbringing. Or one

774
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: VHS tape of Oliver Twist the musical mm hmm. Are

775
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: the Spice Girls and Oliver Twists?

776
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: You know, they're actually closer to Oliver Twists than you

777
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: would then to Natalie Portman.

778
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is amazing.

779
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really cool.

780
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: It's really cool. And how many five? Yeah, there's five.

781
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: And three of them are white or sorry, four of

782
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: them are white and then they have they have one

783
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 3: black one great and unfortunately you're not going to like this.

784
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: Oh no she died. No, okay, she is scary.

785
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: Sp They're all named blank spice. She is named scary spice.

786
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 3: So there's baby spice, ginger spice, Posh spice, sporty spice.

787
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: They're all white. Scary spice is black. To break that

788
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: used to.

789
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: Is honestly like amazing, Like this is really interesting, and

790
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 3: I'm actually if you need a moment.

791
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: We can Jesus grant that's you because we've had decades

792
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 2: to process.

793
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: And it was always weird.

794
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: It was always weird, and like it was weird as.

795
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: A kid, yeah, and I was like, that's confusing, Yeah,

796
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: it's it's it's and as.

797
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: A kid, but there was like a justification, they would

798
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 1: say when we were kids, like they were like, well,

799
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: because she.

800
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: I always felt the justification was which is obviously not true,

801
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: that she Melby somehow like chose it for herself and

802
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: was like I love being scary. Yeah, because she was

803
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: like because she because she like wore leopard print. Yeah,

804
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: so in that sense, she was scary, like a deadly

805
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: cat would be. Even that's a bit of a stretch,

806
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: obvious it was at But if she in a world

807
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: where she chose it, where they were like, you can

808
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: each choose your quality and she chose scary, that would

809
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: almost be a reclamation of it or something, or it

810
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: would just be her being like, yeah, my personality is that.

811
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, yeah, But of course that's obvious. It

812
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: was obviously a sun must have been a sign. That's

813
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: what we're doing now is like what we were talking

814
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 3: about with Maggie, where sometimes you watch a classic movie

815
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: for the first time as an adult and you want

816
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: to talk about it with people as though it's new,

817
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: and everyone's like, yeah, no, I've seen Goodfellas.

818
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 4: It's like, it's not, Oh my god, that's happening to

819
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: me so many times.

820
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: But I do love just like litigating the racism of

821
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: the Spice Girl's names in twenty twenty five.

822
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: I'm curious too, so I get I understand the sort

823
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: of raised in Kimmi schmidt ViBe's thing, Like were you

824
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: going to like parties with other kids, like birthday parties

825
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: or anything like roller rink parties like that type of thing,

826
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: because that is where you would have heard Spice.

827
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 5: Girl songs on occasion.

828
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: I was allowed at the if.

829
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: You went to like the pool for someone's eighth birthday.

830
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: Right, you know, I bet did the Spice Girl saying y'all,

831
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, well, what that's that guy?

832
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: Okay, you're killing it me.

833
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: That was amazing.

834
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 4: But I guess I just maybe I wasn't seeing the videos,

835
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 4: but those were amazing.

836
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: Because I mean they also were before you were born, and.

837
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 5: I was I was afraid that's a huge past age.

838
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, of course. And I do think that, like

839
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: even things that are visually iconic, like even for us,

840
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: like I'm sure people would be shocked that we don't

841
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: know certain things about Michael Jackson, George Michael even well.

842
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: I know plenty about both. I'm just but I think, yeah,

843
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm like New Kids on the Block, I don't.

844
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: Know exactly about exactly.

845
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: I know nothing about New Kids on the Block. Uh,

846
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: I know nothing about the generation of TV shows before

847
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: like Melrose Places.

848
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, people loved reference Melrose Places, and I go okay,

849
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell.

850
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: You one thing. I barely know Gilmore Girls.

851
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 1: Oh honey, I know gil Morals. That was our era,

852
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: Like that wasn't our era.

853
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: I know because it was on the TV when I

854
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 4: came home from school, Yeah, before my parents got home,

855
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: you see.

856
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: Because they make maybe they turn that filth off of course.

857
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, same.

858
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 3: That's why I was with Tiara because it was on

859
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: for the exact hour that I was home before my

860
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: parents got and I was like, oh, yeah, I love

861
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: that Hillarya video.

862
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 4: Wait, these are the two things I want to say.

863
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: One is about something related to the Spice Girls, and

864
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: one is going back to a quick sack to our

865
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 4: discussion of hierarchy.

866
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 5: I remember something I was going to say, is that allowed?

867
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: Yes?

868
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 5: Thank you?

869
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: That's a nonlinear okay. Yeah.

870
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 5: Oh I love what you guys do with time.

871
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: Everyone does with the meta elements I get.

872
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 5: Oh, I go, okay, do you guys know about Say Now,

873
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 5: Say Now?

874
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: Yes?

875
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 5: They're they're a British multicultural trio girl group.

876
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: Okay, and they're not sugababes.

877
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 4: They're say Now Baby Okay. They they're completely fabulous. You

878
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 4: need to listen to their music and it's so exciting

879
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 4: to me to learn about the Spice Girls because I

880
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 4: love say now so much. I've been thinking what I gosh,

881
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 4: I wish there were more of this.

882
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: You should check out Sugara Babe for Mothers and Sugar Babes.

883
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 3: Yes, Sugar Babes girls allowed, Little Mix waited, little Mixed.

884
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: British yet little mix like could we be sorry? No?

885
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: No, and you're right and thank you and thank you

886
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: for saying that, because at some point you have to

887
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 3: draw the line.

888
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: We need to be called in something. Yes. Yeah, So.

889
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: I have a question for you in terms of just wait,

890
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: there was a second thing.

891
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 5: About the second thing, oh, hierarchy. Oh the thing I

892
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 5: wanted to bring up is did you guys know this?

893
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 5: I was going to attend medical school and I can't

894
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 5: quite tell, but I think part of that is that

895
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 5: the hierarchy was comforting to me, well, of course, and

896
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 5: to instead be an entertainment where hierarchies are yeah, free flowing,

897
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 5: changing often in ways that don't resonate with me. I

898
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 5: think it is stressful.

899
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: I could not agree more. And I think we probably

900
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: grew up in I don't know that's similar, but in

901
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: the same realm of an environment.

902
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 2: Where we've had.

903
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: It sounds like parents that cared about academic achievement and

904
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: competence and who's valedictorian and who's and who's not, And.

905
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 5: It is the way they were hungry.

906
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 2: Yes, and it is.

907
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: Something that I think intellectually I can let go of

908
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: and be like, I know that's not how the world works,

909
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: but it's so deeply ingrained in me that literally every

910
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: time something happens that disturbs the hierarchy, I'm like, that's

911
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: not right.

912
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this is even there's something about hierarchy, this

913
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: thing where we talk about, like specifically the new gay guy,

914
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: where it's like, what is so concerning about the new

915
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: gay guy is that there was a hierarchy. And now

916
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: with the new gay guy, I'm like, okay, so am

917
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: I bumped down? Like so do they love him more?

918
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: Oh? That's so funny. I almost feel because.

919
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: He's new and so now I'm not I'm even less

920
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: new than I was.

921
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: I feel like that there's something with the new gay

922
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: guy that actually is as much as it's disorienting, it

923
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: is comforting.

924
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: Sounds like from a South new gay guy.

925
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm from pop on you gay guy, it's actually

926
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: comforting because you're like, oh good, I get to I

927
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 3: get to take climb one more notch. Not in the

928
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: sense that I am higher of higher value by any means,

929
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: because God knows, I'm not funny.

930
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: The value just goes down. Value just goes.

931
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 3: Down more so that I'm actually higher and can look

932
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: down and have more context. It's like when I'm physically

933
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: higher on the ladder, I just am able to like

934
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: relax more because I'm not so overwhelmed by what's happening

935
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: around because I'm higher and I'm looking down right, I

936
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 3: think so.

937
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: To me, it's less ladder and more line where you are.

938
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: Like when you're in the back of the line, you're like,

939
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: this sucks. But when you're in the middle of the line,

940
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: there's people both in front of people behind you, You're like, okay,

941
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: now I'm just in line. This is so much more comforting.

942
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: And the line is how is the chronological order of

943
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: gay guys?

944
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. And when you're in the middle of the line,

945
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: you're like, well, this line is pretty much a party,

946
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 3: Like we're all like chatting.

947
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 2: I'm meeting you people.

948
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 3: I don't have the daunting task of waiting in a

949
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 3: giant line. But I also don't have the anticipation of,

950
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: oh my god, we're about to enter. I'm just like

951
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: comfortably in the middle.

952
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the line is all about who's in

953
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 5: line with you?

954
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: So true? Oh my god?

955
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: Should we do our for a segment?

956
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: We should have? And of course, you know it's so

957
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 1: tough about la. It's like I was the new gay guy.

958
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and like that was really hard to me.

959
00:46:54,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 5: You are still the new gay who's surpassed you. You're

960
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 5: scared to say, No, let's you're gonna show me pictures?

961
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no, let's let's just do our first segment.

962
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: You guys than.

963
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 5: Gosh, Oh my god, I'm seeing such sad.

964
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: No, it's just like I was like a crash was coming.

965
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: You know, I've been so manic.

966
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: You think a crash is happening now?

967
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's happening on it. No, I'm kidding. Okay,

968
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: this will be good, this will be to clip.

969
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: What do you think it is?

970
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: No, it's fine, Let's do our first segment. Okay, it's

971
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: the Falafel.

972
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 2: Joe, our first segment.

973
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 5: That you're upset. I'm like finally can relate to you.

974
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: The ideation is coming.

975
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: The ideation God, I love that, Joe.

976
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 5: If you want oh, that's the same song, if you

977
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 5: want to.

978
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: Be okay, Yeah, yes, what other song? What's heisty? Yeah?

979
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: Hold tight?

980
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Having a good.

981
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 5: Sounds great?

982
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the man.

983
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: Then there's then there's there's two become one.

984
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: To become one.

985
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna love it.

986
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really good.

987
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: You're really gonna have fun.

988
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 5: Are they still out and about?

989
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: They pop in the theunions every now and they are

990
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: probably fifty.

991
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 5: Oh, come on, come on, they can still do They dance, They.

992
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: Ride around in little cars sometimes.

993
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

994
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: I think you want specific performance from the Yeah. Yeah.

995
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: So first Ginger Spice left the group, and then there

996
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: were four of them and they released one And this

997
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: was like in like two thousand and one. They were

998
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 3: there were four of them, and they released one more

999
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: album just the four of them. Then they broke up completely.

1000
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 3: Then they united all five of them, and I want

1001
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: to see like two thousand and eight and why did.

1002
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: Wasn't there a lesbian thing?

1003
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: There were rumors that there was a lesbian thing. Ginger

1004
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: Space now is dating some sort of like race car

1005
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: driver and has like rebranded as kind of no like

1006
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: straight male race car driver, and she has rebranded as

1007
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 3: kind of like conservative sports wife, like buttoned lacoste dress

1008
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: up to hear, you know, like perfectly done hair on

1009
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: the sidelines, being like I'm rooting from my man kind

1010
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: of thing and potentially even politically conservative, although I don't

1011
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 3: I haven't done my research there, of course. Victoria Beckham

1012
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 3: married David.

1013
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 5: Beckham, card the shop at lacost.

1014
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Victoria Beca married David Beckham. Hushsh space.

1015
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: Does David Beckham ring a bell as a name?

1016
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it took like that I was disrespectful.

1017
00:49:59,480 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: No it was.

1018
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: No, you're curious in some fear.

1019
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 5: I believe I know who that is.

1020
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Yes, let's wear a first segment.

1021
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do our first segment.

1022
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: Okay. First thing is called straight Shooters, and in this one,

1023
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: we're going to ask you a series of rapifire questions.

1024
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: It's basically this thing or this other thing, and the

1025
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: only rule is you can't ask any follow questions or we.

1026
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 5: Will scream at you can't get me.

1027
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: Okay, let's begin. Madison Square Garden or Marcia gay Harden.

1028
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden, Diet Mountain Dew or the Taming of

1029
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 3: the shrew shrew.

1030
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: A musical prodigy or a beautiful pair.

1031
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: Of feet, musical prodigy icons only or my phone's lonely?

1032
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: What check republic or check the mug bitch?

1033
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 5: Oh? Can they tie?

1034
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: Sure?

1035
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 5: Oh but I got to you.

1036
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: Oh so it's a tie.

1037
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's gonna well, I'm allowed to ask a

1038
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: question Susan Lucci, Stanley Tucci, Armando via Nucci or Dakota

1039
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: Johnson's stuns and Gucci.

1040
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 5: Oh, Stanley Tucci, because I'm proud I know who that is.

1041
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: Okay, going on, do not disturb or being on to

1042
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: catch a predator?

1043
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 5: I'm going on, do not disturb?

1044
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: Stars and stripes or chasing likes?

1045
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 5: Chasing likes?

1046
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: Wow?

1047
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: Wow?

1048
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: What's more bad? The stars and stripes or the culture

1049
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: of chasing likes? And it's sort of like, can you

1050
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: have one out the other? Can you have one without

1051
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: the other?

1052
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: Fuck?

1053
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 3: We rate our guests performance on a scale of zero

1054
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: to one thousand doves.

1055
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: And that's that.

1056
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 5: Because anyone ever caught zero dogs?

1057
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: Mmm, I don't think anyone has gotten zero.

1058
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure we've tried me with Max or something.

1059
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's like my favorite.

1060
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 3: Well we were with him yesterday and we were talking

1061
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: about you. I'm kidding, would you have would you have

1062
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: preferred if we were talking about you?

1063
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: Or would that have scared you?

1064
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 5: Oh? Both? But I would have preferred it.

1065
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1066
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think you got nine hundred nine yay doves.

1067
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: I agree? What it's crazy?

1068
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: Actually, I think there was just a calm annoying. I

1069
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: think you were tastefully dominating.

1070
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 5: Can I take my shoes off? Is that crazy?

1071
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: No?

1072
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: I love that side saddle. Oh now okay, this is

1073
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 2: called her daddy?

1074
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: Now?

1075
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1076
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, see how much I don't? Now that's crazy and

1077
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: I know Spice Girls, but to no Alex Cooper.

1078
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 5: Okay, so I didn't know her, yes, isn't well?

1079
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: Like if you were like who hosts called her your daddy,

1080
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I don't know.

1081
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 4: I do think it's I do think it's indicative of

1082
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 4: mental illness that I know.

1083
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 3: No, it's not your fault. It's a systemic issue. It's

1084
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: like in our world we should all know the name

1085
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: of like the first woman doctor, but instead we know

1086
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 3: the name of Alex Cooper. Really, and that's not our fault.

1087
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 3: But also is it how much do we have free will?

1088
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: How much are we supposed to fight against the system

1089
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 3: that produces us. I don't know, dang, what is your

1090
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 3: topic and what's straight about it?

1091
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 5: Oh? My topic is going home?

1092
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I love. Thank you, and say a little

1093
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 3: more like what do you mean when you mean when

1094
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 3: you say going home?

1095
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: Oh?

1096
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 5: Okay, I see, I see, I see.

1097
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 4: We're all hanging out. Night has fallen, things are winding down.

1098
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 4: I think the straightest thing you can do, pat your thought, guy,

1099
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 4: pat your back pocket, reach for your bag.

1100
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 5: Well, I'll be going now where are you going?

1101
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1102
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: But also are you call me? Pat your thighs?

1103
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 3: Pat your back pocket is so evocative because it is

1104
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 3: it's like this constant checking of like am I put together?

1105
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: God forbid? Anything is out of place? Like I have

1106
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: to be one unit at all times. I have to be.

1107
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 3: I can't risk, you know, being away from my phone,

1108
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 3: wallet and keys, and I need to Already I was

1109
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 3: pushing it because I was out of my house. Thank god,

1110
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: I get to go back.

1111
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: But you know what else it is, it's essentially before

1112
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: you do it years tapping the glass, you're essentially saying

1113
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: like I'm about to make a statement, I'm going to

1114
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: go home. M hmm, Like you're like, oh, I gotta

1115
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: go home.

1116
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also your t You're like, am I still human?

1117
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: Do I still count in the census?

1118
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: Oh? Thank god.

1119
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 3: I was worried that I had spent too much time

1120
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 3: with my community and potentially had become, you know, one

1121
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 3: of a mass of people, like a potentially create change,

1122
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: one of the worst things that I could possibly do.

1123
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 3: Thank God, I'm still an individual and can go home

1124
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: and sit on a couch by myself.

1125
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 5: I hate when people go home so much.

1126
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 4: There's like a point of a hang that if I

1127
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: feel it winding down, I don't I don't want to

1128
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 4: move a muscle because there's a point of a hang

1129
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 4: where it's like, I don't know, It's like it's it's

1130
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 4: it's two forty six am. If someone gets up to pee,

1131
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: by the time you come back from the bathroom, everyone's gone.

1132
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1133
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 5: So there's a certain point where it's like we're all.

1134
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 2: Just kidding, none listening.

1135
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 3: Joe is holding a gun, Joe's mining holding a gun,

1136
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 3: which I do understand what you're saying. It's like you

1137
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: feel everyone getting antsy and you're like, I'm not ready

1138
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 3: for this one.

1139
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: Just relax, Yeah, Stacy I'll fucking put on a music video. Oh,

1140
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: I'll put on a music video.

1141
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 5: Say your favorite YouTube video? Now, thank you?

1142
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 3: Okay, I have a little theory about this.

1143
00:55:58,800 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you.

1144
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: People.

1145
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 3: The default is house and the exception is out boo.

1146
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: For gay people, the default is out, the exception is house.

1147
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: It's like a gay person goes, a gay person is

1148
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 3: alone in the house, They're like, oh god, this doesn't

1149
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 3: feel right, Like what's going on? Like, what's everyone? What's

1150
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: what's everyone doing? Let me text the group chat, let

1151
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 3: me see what events? Oh did I miss a party?

1152
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: Fle invite? Surely I must have because it's Friday at

1153
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: eight thirty and I am not on my way to something.

1154
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 5: Hello.

1155
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 3: Whereas the straight thing, my favorite classics are like cliche

1156
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 3: thing is when a straight person will be like like

1157
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: almost pretend they don't know what going out is like,

1158
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 3: and they'll be like, I haven't been out past I

1159
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,959
Speaker 3: haven't been out past to eight and in sixteen years.

1160
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even know where people eat at restaurants.

1161
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what that is.

1162
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: It's like and it's a very kind of and I

1163
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 3: do not want to stigmatize new moms because it's a

1164
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 3: new it's definitely like.

1165
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: Well, it's definitely a kids.

1166
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: It's like a i'll stigmatize. I think it's it's valid.

1167
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 5: We need a change.

1168
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: It's valid for new moms because I understand that if

1169
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 3: you're a new mom, you're not going out to the club.

1170
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: But then there are people that are not new moms

1171
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: that are using that language as though they're new moms.

1172
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know what I mean.

1173
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It's like how people are using therapy

1174
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: language to talk about just like things that aren't therapy.

1175
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: If you're saying, oh god, nine thirty is late for

1176
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: us these days, that's okay if you're a new mom

1177
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: and I and I'm literally like, yes, do you need me?

1178
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 3: I will pay for your uber Do you need me

1179
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: to babysit if you want to maybe go to a restaurant.

1180
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: But if you're just thirty five and don't have kids

1181
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: and have a normal job, you should be ashamed of not.

1182
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: Going nine thirty.

1183
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 4: I have a couple thoughts on the new mom yeah issue,

1184
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 4: So just you know, just to stay right off the

1185
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 4: bat like new moms like, I love them, I respect

1186
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: them deeply, deeply. What is the deadline or when you

1187
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 4: stop being new. Yeah, when you stop being a new mom.

1188
00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: This is interesting, I would almost say. I mean, there's

1189
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: also sorry, go ahead, there's something about like I think

1190
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: you're a new mom until they're in school.

1191
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: There's also a sort of necessary class analysis here, which

1192
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: is like, yeah, if you have money for constant childcare

1193
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: at any given point, you can go back.

1194
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 5: To go and give me money for nanny. Do you

1195
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 5: even count as a mom?

1196
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 7: Just kidding, just kidd jk everybody, But I do agree

1197
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 7: with you that it's like you are still a new

1198
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 7: mom when the kid is sixteen, because each time the

1199
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 7: kid ages, you are a new mom of It's like, well,

1200
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 7: I'm a new mom of an eleven.

1201
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 3: Year old when I was a new mom of a

1202
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 3: ten and a half year old.

1203
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: Like that is a completely parent.

1204
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 3: It's like, there's no, I'm sorry, you're telling me parenting

1205
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 3: an infant is going to prepare you for parenting a teen.

1206
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 3: How name one similarity? Really smart, really name one similarity.

1207
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: That's like saying, oh, yeah, I took a bike ride,

1208
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: so now I'm going to go skydiving.

1209
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: Are you listening to yourself?

1210
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 4: It's funny, Yeah, yeah, it's really good. Wait, but the

1211
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 4: thing about being a new mom to an infant, doesn't

1212
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 4: the infant, Like I feel like infants don't know about

1213
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 4: day and about night.

1214
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: Yes, they can barely see.

1215
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 5: So I'm like, I like, take the baby to the

1216
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 5: club with you a bit, or if to go home early,

1217
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 5: like it's.

1218
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: It's, oh, okay, this is interesting.

1219
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 4: If your kid needs to like wake up and go

1220
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: to school. I almost understand that you're saying.

1221
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: You're saying that moms should party more before preschool. I think,

1222
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: so I like take advantage of the sort of.

1223
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: Time makes sense.

1224
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So obviously the thing

1225
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: there not to take what you're saying too literally. The

1226
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 3: thing there is that babies are going to be crying.

1227
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 3: You're going to be disturbing the peace. If you're like

1228
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: at a restaurant or in the club and you have

1229
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 3: a crying baby with you, Oh.

1230
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 5: Well, that's why we need the village. Baby.

1231
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 4: I'm not even so much thinking about being at the

1232
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 4: like in my mind the going home issue, I'm thinking,

1233
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 4: we're we're all at home together, and I don't want

1234
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 4: people to go to their individual homes.

1235
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 5: But I love being at the club.

1236
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: Let's go oh, it's not about home.

1237
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 8: This is like about a yeah, yeah, like your brunch yesterday,

1238
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 8: which was very like we ate and then we sat

1239
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 8: around for three hours and then we.

1240
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: Took a walk.

1241
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, that seemed distorted.

1242
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is actually I understand. Yes, it's not

1243
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 3: about clubing, it's not about going to restaurants. It's about

1244
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 3: being with other people.

1245
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 4: And you know what, I think, it's also like, yes,

1246
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 4: it's about age, because I think that being younger is

1247
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 4: generally a bit more homosexual to me, of course, and

1248
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 4: I think maybe like at the what's even deeper into

1249
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 4: my issue with people going home is as as I

1250
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 4: see my friends getting older and straight or there naturally

1251
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 4: is an urge to like, yeah, have a lifestyle that

1252
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 4: is just a little bit more about like having your

1253
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 4: own home, having your own couple, having your own family unit.

1254
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 4: And I am mourning that in real time. I really

1255
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 4: liked Gosh, I hate to say it.

1256
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 5: I liked when it was like college, when anywhere to

1257
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 5: go because together in college.

1258
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: But it is, yes, in college, there is no such

1259
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: thing as going home.

1260
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: It's it's I mean, I miss college like like a

1261
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: loser missus. High school. I loved college so much.

1262
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, get some cowboy chords over that.

1263
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: I but like, I think there's something you guys, because

1264
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: it's the only thing it needs to be said. There's

1265
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: something about there's something about when you start to have privacy,

1266
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: you start to become addicted to privacy, and you can

1267
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: almost like want privacy more, more and more, and the

1268
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: more you get, the more you want it. And you're like, Okay,

1269
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: now I'm alone this much, and I want to be

1270
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: alone more, and now I want to be a little more.

1271
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: And then when you're out, you're like, I'm panicking, like

1272
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: I haven't been out to sea in a while. Whereas

1273
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: when you're so used to being out and you're so

1274
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: used to not having privacy, you're like, well, not having

1275
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: privacy for the next five hours, it's actually really easy,

1276
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: and I'm used to.

1277
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like when you stop having roommates, it's

1278
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 3: so difficult to have to go back to it for

1279
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 3: some reason. If you have to then go back to

1280
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 3: having roommates, it's like impossible, and even for some people

1281
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: it's impossible to even just like live with a partner

1282
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 3: because you're like, well, I'm used to this level of privacy.

1283
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 3: But I do think the younger versus older thing is

1284
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: interesting because as you get older, the home just becomes

1285
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 3: more solidified.

1286
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: Whether it's because you.

1287
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 3: Literally have more money to pay for a nicer home

1288
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: with nicer furniture and it's more comfortable, or because you

1289
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 3: are you start being less comfortable doing other things while

1290
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: people are watching, Like just the need for privacy, and

1291
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 3: so I almost think it's like a muscle that you

1292
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 3: have to exercise. You have to like force yourself to

1293
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 3: be out of the home and to be outside otherwise

1294
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 3: suddenly you wake up and you're like, I haven't done

1295
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 3: anything in five years.

1296
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 5: This is so.

1297
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: I say, your thing yesterday the brunch where we did

1298
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: hang out like aimlessly for like hours, that was like,

1299
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: I haven't done this in genuinely many years. It's like

1300
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: always like I'm over for a dinner and then you

1301
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,919
Speaker 1: like when the dinner does its thing, then you leave,

1302
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: or like like I've never I haven't hung out in

1303
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 1: someone's home indefinitely in a very long time.

1304
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 5: Yes, to me, that's the that's the path to love.

1305
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: Yes, And I agree, And even this is so insane,

1306
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: maybe cut this, oh, but I'm like so like there's

1307
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: one point it was morning sort of and like there's

1308
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: one point when like guest number one, I won't docs

1309
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom for an extended period of time.

1310
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: Are possibilities and I'm saying like I'm saying, Okay, this

1311
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: diva is duking in George's house.

1312
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: Someone did poop.

1313
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: And then guess what. I was like, that's amazing, Like

1314
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: if someone is so comfortable being here, he's duking without shame.

1315
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: And then guess what I duked too, Ah, because I

1316
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: said I actually need to too. And and there's we're family.

1317
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 3: And that's a perfect example of something that like with

1318
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 3: a straight mindset, you're like, well, I'm only going to

1319
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 3: poop my own home.

1320
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: But here I was like why why.

1321
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 5: I think wouldn't even release.

1322
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: It wouldn't really physically it would be impossible, but we

1323
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: were we were family, and I said, well, family can

1324
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: can do.

1325
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 3: I also want to talk about your idea of like

1326
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 3: people slowly realizing people are people are leaving, and I

1327
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 3: think there's a fear that time outside the home is

1328
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 3: time wasted, and as the hours past, you're like, oh god,

1329
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: we're pushing it. We're pushing it, We're pushing it. I'm

1330
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 3: doing something wrong, like I have homework at home, and

1331
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: it's like, well, actually, realistically, you're going to go home

1332
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 3: and also not be quote unquote productive. It's not like

1333
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 3: you're going to go home and write a novel.

1334
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 5: Well that's really the thing where because people there are,

1335
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 5: in my opinion, excuses to go home where people will

1336
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 5: be like I have yoga in the morning. I have.

1337
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1338
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 5: First of all, not okay, so no one made you

1339
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 5: sign up for that, so unsign up? Yes, oh I

1340
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 5: oh I have, I have, I have other plans tomorrow

1341
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 5: like oh I got I gotta be going. But I'm

1342
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 5: just like, you can't tell the yoga like this is life.

1343
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 4: Like there's like it's like the yoga or whatever productive

1344
01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 4: thing is being held in higher esteem. Yes, and the

1345
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 4: aimliss hanging out time And I'm like, no, sit the

1346
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: hell down, Yes, this is the project.

1347
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 3: And the future is being privileged over the present more

1348
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 3: like I'm actually currently enjoying myself without planning.

1349
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: For the future. That must be bad.

1350
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: What I should be doing is opening an IRA. It's like, no, don't,

1351
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 3: I will be there.

1352
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 4: The caveat They need to say this is that the

1353
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 4: amount of strife and pain that I caused to my

1354
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 4: friend group is.

1355
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 3: Like unbelievable because you force them to stay out later

1356
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: than they want to.

1357
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 5: Well, that's part of that's a that's a minor part

1358
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 5: of it. But I'm saying, like, even when we are

1359
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 5: all hanging out, I'm not making it easy for people.

1360
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: Like you're being like difficult. Yeah, Like how so.

1361
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 4: Like I'm like going in another room and crying because

1362
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 4: I will just kind of decide that everyone doesn't like me.

1363
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: Really that's fun. But this is I actually think.

1364
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 7: Sorry, I'm like, oh, why do people want to leave?

1365
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: But I like that?

1366
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 3: But that actually goes along with your with your more

1367
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 3: broad theory that like everything should be done communally, Like yeah,

1368
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 3: why not cry in front of other people instead of

1369
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 3: going all the way home to have privacy and be

1370
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 3: even more sad because you're not around your loved ones.

1371
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 4: Really, and I think that's why New York is one

1372
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 4: of the only places I can live and not kill

1373
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 4: myself yacause yes, I upset all the time, but with

1374
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 4: my people.

1375
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 3: And by the way, crying is the same as pooping.

1376
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 3: Why are those things? So these are two vulnerable things

1377
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: everyone does, and yet God forbid you do them.

1378
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: The room.

1379
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 3: You know, in the next room is your loved ones. Yeah,

1380
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 3: why what's the worst that could happen?

1381
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: One of my favorite like party memories was it was

1382
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: that in my bushy place and it was like I think,

1383
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: like a birthday party or something, and Moe shout out

1384
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: took me into my room and like read Tarot for me,

1385
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: and I just like started bawling, like like being so crazy.

1386
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: And then I was like like twenty minutes of that

1387
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, let's go back out, and

1388
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: I was like that was so fun, Like what a journey.

1389
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 5: Oh wait, Sam, Yeah, congrats on getting absolutely married.

1390
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: Thank you?

1391
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 5: How well, how I'm sure you told everyone already how

1392
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 5: was your wedding? But I guess I'm curious what was

1393
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 5: the end of the wedding? Like when did people go home?

1394
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: And well, that's an interesting question. So this is interesting.

1395
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: I so we I will say this the beginning, everything

1396
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: was successful. Yes, the wedding was to die for. It

1397
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: was really fun. But we the bar we went to

1398
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: for like an after drink I didn't love and so

1399
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: I like, but but to be fair, I kind of

1400
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 1: left it all on the table or on the field.

1401
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: Sports metaphor and so I was like not really looking

1402
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: to like, I was like kind of exhausted, and so

1403
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: I was like I had like one drink at the

1404
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: after place, maybe two, and then was like, Okay, I'm

1405
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna go. And it kind of felt like a nice

1406
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: excuse to be like I gotta get out of here.

1407
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: But it had been you know, we'd been hanging out

1408
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: since like four thirty PM, and it was.

1409
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,959
Speaker 3: Like the idea of a wedding after party is interesting

1410
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 3: because you would think everyone would like, quote unquote finally

1411
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 3: let loose. But the thing about weddings is that they

1412
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 3: last a really long time. You sort of forget every

1413
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 3: time you go to one, like it is really.

1414
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 5: Really I'm so jealous and sad.

1415
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:30,480
Speaker 1: No like knowledge.

1416
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 3: Friends, it's gonna start happening and then it'll never stop.

1417
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 3: It's like, so I actually enjoy this time, save up

1418
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 3: some money, you know, really invest in that ira okay,

1419
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 3: and because I would say in approximately four or five years,

1420
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 3: it's really gonna it's really gonna start and it's never

1421
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 3: gonna end because there's not even a lull. Because basically

1422
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 3: it's straight weddings, then gay weddings, then all tho straight

1423
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 3: people get divorced, and then it's second weddings.

1424
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 5: Oh wow, can I say something? I won't attend unless

1425
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 5: I approve.

1426
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: Oh what, unless you're reading, I.

1427
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 5: Won't attend unless I approve of the union.

1428
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 4: I love that it will see if I do have that.

1429
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 4: But that might limit No, that might be my budgeting hack.

1430
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: But I think you're pointing to something which is like,

1431
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:30,480
Speaker 1: at some point people do have to go home, Like, yeah, inevitably,

1432
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: So what is the ethical way to go home?

1433
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: In your dream world? How does a hang end?

1434
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 5: It's a great question. My dream world, sleepover.

1435
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:46,440
Speaker 2: Breakfast.

1436
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 5: We go to sleep at about six thirty am.

1437
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that sounds fun.

1438
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 5: We wake up about noon one pm, have brunch, breakfast, lunch.

1439
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 5: Maybe we've left the house. Maybe the brunch was in

1440
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,520
Speaker 5: the house. Then it's group reading.

1441
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 3: Time, each person individually reading, not like reading circle.

1442
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, probably each because you know, I'm respecting in

1443
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 5: the morning people they want to do their own you know,

1444
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 5: just we and then slowly if you have a dinner plan.

1445
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 3: Sure, okay, this is interesting. So okay you allow them

1446
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: to leave for dinner. No, no, But but I like

1447
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: what you're saying. It's like you allow them to leave

1448
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 3: for a thing, not to prepare for it.

1449
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: And then the moment you are done, you better get

1450
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: your ass back here. Yeah, because we're watching music videos.

1451
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 3: So it ends when you have the next thing. It

1452
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: doesn't end when you want to like prepare for yoga

1453
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 3: or go home to brush your teeth. Like you're like

1454
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 3: club club, club, club club.

1455
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 5: I'll allow you to prepare for the next thing for

1456
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 5: like just like I really do want every hang to

1457
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 5: go well into tomorrow.

1458
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: I really I see that. I struggle with them. I

1459
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: found myself recently being like having people over and I

1460
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: mean like gets to that point and you're sort of

1461
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: like I because you want to go to sleep, but

1462
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: even like so sleep.

1463
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: And honestly, yeah, like.

1464
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so funny.

1465
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: I have a friend, I have this couple that always

1466
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 3: hosts these dinners, and one of them is known for

1467
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 3: going to bed when she's ready and when people are

1468
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 3: still there, and it's just like no, that's and it's

1469
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: a it's like a it's a thing, and everyone knows it.

1470
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 2: And it's like at some point you no longer partner

1471
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: to help.

1472
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 3: Yes, at some point you no longer see her, but

1473
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: her wife is still there and everyone's still like around

1474
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 3: and having a good time.

1475
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 5: Oh and see it's her and a wife.

1476
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 3: Yeah noticed that, right? Who so do you it's they're doing?

1477
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 3: They were doing the gay thing. But I guess my

1478
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 3: question is I guess here's what I haven't considered. Okay,

1479
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 3: if both wives wanted to go to sleep, would that

1480
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 3: be awkward? Like they're both going to sleep.

1481
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 5: I'll climb into bed with them. I just don't see

1482
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 5: any issue at all.

1483
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like everyone can can see themselves out when

1484
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 3: they're ready.

1485
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 5: I think if you're hosting and you want to go

1486
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 5: to sleep, like grow up, just hand me the keys

1487
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 5: in case I wanted to run, and I'll be here. Yeah,

1488
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 5: like many months ago. I hope it's long ago that

1489
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 5: this person has forgotten. And I think I can tell

1490
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 5: it anonymously enough that you know, if you hear this

1491
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 5: and you think it's about you, then she fits wear it.

1492
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 5: I was hanging out with someone and we hung out

1493
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 5: until I mean, just a very plain story. I hung

1494
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 5: up with my friend until about twelve thirty, and they

1495
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 5: were like, Okay, I'm tired. I think you should go now.

1496
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1497
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 5: I don't look at that person the same way I forgot.

1498
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 3: This is like, no, I love this you, I don't

1499
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 3: hate it going home like you don't want to be home.

1500
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 5: I want to hold it over their head. But that

1501
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 5: hurt me.

1502
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I wish.

1503
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes I do wish someone will be like can I

1504
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: stay here? Like I think where I get confused, it's

1505
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: the wanting them to leave is sort of like waiting

1506
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: for the other shoe to drop, where I'm like, if

1507
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna break up with meing, just break up with

1508
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: me right Like I'm kind of like like if they

1509
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: were like I want to stay the night, Like I

1510
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: want to sleep on the couch and be like, oh great,

1511
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: let's have another drink and hang out.

1512
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 5: Well, with some of my friends, we do have a

1513
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 5: sort of pattern or policy of decide, oh, because you

1514
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 5: know what, you do this with people you're dating, where

1515
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 5: you'll kind of negotiate ahead of time is tonight a

1516
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 5: sleepover or not? I bring that into the platonic.

1517
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: Really I do.

1518
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 5: I have friends who I say, are we having a sleepover.

1519
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 3: I do believe that bed space should just generally be

1520
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 3: easier to come by, like I think every I think

1521
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 3: there should be a way for it to be non intrusive,

1522
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 3: But like every living room basically just has Murphy beds

1523
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 3: around all the water and at any given time, you

1524
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 3: should be able to sleep six people in your apartment.

1525
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 5: I love it. Why are people so particular about their

1526
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:32,480
Speaker 5: own beds?

1527
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: Well, this is an interesting Oh, this is.

1528
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 5: An age thing. Huh.

1529
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: This is like, I'm really like, I'm funnywhere.

1530
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 7: You have no idea what your body is going to do,

1531
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 7: like like it's going to happen out of nowhere, and

1532
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 7: you're gonna you're gonna think it's a mistake.

1533
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna be like, oh sorry, restart restarting.

1534
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: Literally, this is not mean impacts because it hurts.

1535
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 5: Your back and here'sh.

1536
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: Like and I'm really not trying to be that person.

1537
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,879
Speaker 2: No, it's a weak. Yeah, I like it's tough.

1538
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: Because I I have no one, no one who's believed

1539
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: that their body would have betrayed.

1540
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 5: Them more than the like your back, Like the back

1541
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 5: pain is more important to you than your friendship.

1542
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: I just don't think you understand.

1543
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way to theoretically understand this.

1544
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: You have to live it. It's sort of like being

1545
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: a new mother.

1546
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, although I think I sort.

1547
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 5: Of get, but I feel such mental anguish in every

1548
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 5: moment of my life period.

1549
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1550
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 5: Oh so that's the end of my sentence. I'll see

1551
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,759
Speaker 5: when I get there. Yeah, sure, it'll be like tomorrow.

1552
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: Can I ask, like, can I ask how old you are?

1553
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 2: Oh?

1554
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: Seen?

1555
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 5: You don't know?

1556
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 2: You have a really amazing year ahead of you.

1557
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: Seventeen was my favorite year, seriously really yeah, and I

1558
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: would know it was only three years ago.

1559
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 5: Seventeen was mighty pain for me.

1560
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,799
Speaker 2: Seventeen was bad for me too. I have to say,

1561
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 2: can you.

1562
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 5: Please give me advice? I'm twenty four, and it's really.

1563
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 2: What advice do you want?

1564
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 5: How do I feel better?

1565
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 2: How do you feel better?

1566
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: You know? What I think is like, just keep gunning

1567
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 1: into your career, Like I think, fill that with success.

1568
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: And I've noticed that the people vice is be successful. No,

1569
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I just feel like a lot of people

1570
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: do that. People are like, I know, I'll get more

1571
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: famous and then they are thirty six and famous and

1572
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: so wild to be.

1573
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you are investing in your relationships clearly,

1574
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 3: which is the number one thing existing in community, and

1575
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 3: that helps a lot. I would say, you know.

1576
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: You know, step outside of yourself, step outside of yourself,

1577
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: care about people.

1578
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 5: Okay, can I ask you maybe a question?

1579
01:17:58,560 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1580
01:17:58,800 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 5: Can we be problems solved?

1581
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1582
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 5: Something. I want to have a creative career. I've been

1583
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 5: begging for it for so long. I'm noticing I'm already

1584
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 5: struggling with the feeling of having eyes on me. Yea,

1585
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 5: even people are pretty much really nice to me. Even

1586
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 5: when people are positive and patient and caring, it's kind

1587
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 5: of stressful.

1588
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 3: Well, the tough thing with that is that's a sign

1589
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 3: that you're normal and not a psychopath. Because if you thought,

1590
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 3: I if that was happening to you and you were thinking, okay, good,

1591
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 3: now I feel good, that means you're literally a sociopath.

1592
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 5: And I still think I might be.

1593
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,799
Speaker 2: But a different But it's a different it's a different sens.

1594
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, it's just part of it.

1595
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: It's also a normal It's very normal, and you'll like

1596
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: figure out how to deal with it in a different way.

1597
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 3: It's also just like any job has things that are

1598
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 3: non ideal and stressful, and if you were a doctor,

1599
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 3: it would be that you would have to be like

1600
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 3: sleep deprived all the time and have to leave your

1601
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 3: family vacation because your pager went off to surgery and

1602
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 3: for the career you've chosen. It's that occasionally it feels

1603
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 3: bad to have people got at you, or to say

1604
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 3: something inappropriate to you, or or to be over familiar,

1605
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 3: or to lie to you, or to like fundamentally misunderstand you,

1606
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 3: and then you feel this need to correct the misunderstanding.

1607
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 3: But you have to have the inner peace to not

1608
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 3: do it, and that takes work to build that muscle

1609
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 3: so you don't.

1610
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 2: Right back.

1611
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 5: That actually has helped, But.

1612
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 3: I think it's hardest when it is first happening because

1613
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 3: you don't have the tools to deal with it. But

1614
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 3: then in an ideal world, it'll keep happening slowly and

1615
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 3: not all at once, which I do think can be

1616
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 3: like a.

1617
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 2: A trauma. And I have not experienced that.

1618
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 1: I had not experienced that.

1619
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 3: Which I legitimately am grateful for, because it seems like

1620
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 3: it would be horrible.

1621
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 1: It seems hard.

1622
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 5: Well, I look up to you guys because you were

1623
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 5: some of my favorite comedians and favorite artists, and you're

1624
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 5: very Oh you discussed this all the time on the podcast.

1625
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 5: I can even name the episodes, but you're quite well

1626
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 5: adjusted about it.

1627
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. That's very sweet.

1628
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: It's very sweet.

1629
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: Should we do our very tired of talking to me. No, no,

1630
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: see now we're in a trap. Why because we thing

1631
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,879
Speaker 1: we've Oh.

1632
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 2: My god, wait wait can I say something?

1633
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 5: Actually, my god, what I've created? I mean, do you

1634
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 5: see how it's bullying me?

1635
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 2: Was tough?

1636
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: Like what we just have to like I don't know

1637
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: how long? Like the studio is even a veil, Like

1638
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 1: we're literally like past our time.

1639
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 5: How are you doing?

1640
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have.

1641
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 3: One final thing to say about going home. Oh yeah,

1642
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 3: here's something that is teacher's pet.

1643
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 5: And I think I do well.

1644
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: Interesting, So Joe is the teacher's teacher in this are

1645
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: the third is always the teacher.

1646
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 3: Interesting, It would be amazing if we were. If you

1647
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 3: there were students they went into a class and the

1648
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 3: teacher was like, I've looked up to you guys for

1649
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 3: a while, and I just think you guys have handled

1650
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 3: it all really well, and I think you're really well

1651
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 3: adjusted to the second grade students.

1652
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 5: That's funny, that's funny. You know I am. I do

1653
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 5: teach adult students. You do, I teach stand up and

1654
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 5: public speaking?

1655
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1656
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 5: My students are all like consultants.

1657
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh god, they probably think you're so cool

1658
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 2: and they're right by.

1659
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,560
Speaker 5: The way, some of them, and some of them definitely

1660
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 5: are like confused.

1661
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: MM, we'll let them. Probably you have any other questions

1662
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: you want to ask us? Yeah, no, that really like

1663
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 1: patted our egos in a crazy way, like completely so many.

1664
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 3: But what I wanted to say about parties is, here's

1665
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 3: something that is.

1666
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 5: Oh and then I and then I actually really a

1667
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 5: very real question.

1668
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 2: Okayat here's something that is chilling. Get ready, I'm scared.

1669
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 2: You're at a a get together.

1670
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 3: There's someone who has been threatening to come all night,

1671
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 3: but they were held up somewhere maybe you know, like

1672
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 3: they were at another event whatever. Oh, they text, Okay,

1673
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 3: I could come.

1674
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: Now. How long are you guys going to be?

1675
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: This is so complex? What do you do? This is

1676
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: so complex because there is a flow to a gathering,

1677
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: and if they are coming in at like you're at

1678
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: peak and they're at valley, that's gonna clash.

1679
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 2: But also you don't know a gathering might have.

1680
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 5: Come and can people to leave even.

1681
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: Totally because the door's open, They're like, fuck, I can

1682
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: go out.

1683
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 5: Isn't it funny?

1684
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 4: Like how simple minded we can be that it is

1685
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 4: just like literally the opening of the door.

1686
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: People are like the door open. That reminds me, Yeah,

1687
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: I mightn't know.

1688
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's outside. This entire time there has

1689
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 3: been outside, that's been an option.

1690
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: Well there's also part of you where you're like, oh,

1691
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: I'm being replaced, like like now they won't miss me

1692
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: because I'm leaving. Someone else is coming.

1693
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1694
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 3: Or then it's like, well it's not you're gathering, so

1695
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 3: you want to ask like, oh, Sam is texting?

1696
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 2: Are we going to be here for a while.

1697
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 3: But then the fact that you're putting them into people's

1698
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 3: heads makes everyone look at their watch be like you know, honestly.

1699
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 4: It is actually set up my house. So it's like

1700
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 4: you come in, you have to turn in your watch,

1701
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 4: no clocks on the walls, and I like scramble your phone.

1702
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: When my apartment in Bushwick had no windows in the

1703
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: living room, so it literally was like you would hang

1704
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: out till like five am and everyone like wouldn't notice. Yeah,

1705
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: And I was like it felt like a torture chamber kind.

1706
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 5: Of I've lived in a dungeon like apartment.

1707
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: What was your question?

1708
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 4: Oh, look, we could discuss it on air, We could

1709
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 4: discuss it off air, but you guys have a relationship

1710
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 4: where you started as more so business partners than friends,

1711
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 4: and I assume you would say that now your beautiful

1712
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 4: betrothed friends. Is there a way Okay, I'm asking from

1713
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 4: the perspective of Tessa and I want to be you

1714
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 4: and want to make a podcast.

1715
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Yeah?

1716
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 5: Is there a way that you make sure that happens.

1717
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 2: That you remain friends or like closer?

1718
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, or like are there?

1719
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1720
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 5: Are there strategies to maintaining friendship while being business partners?

1721
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 5: Because I think we've come up even against some minor

1722
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 5: frictions of that kind of relationship and we've been able

1723
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 5: to work through them. Cannot even stronger and think, but

1724
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 5: I want to make sure that happens if I can.

1725
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 2: How do we maintain a healthy balance between business partnership

1726
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: and friendship?

1727
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: I think we know the difference. Yes, Like we don't mix.

1728
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: Like we're like we need to meet to talk about

1729
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 1: this stuff, and then it's like and now we need

1730
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 1: to go to dinner.

1731
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 2: And those are different things. Those are different things. That's true.

1732
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 3: We have business meetings and then we also have a brunch.

1733
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 3: Oh cool, And we also have dinner and we also

1734
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:35,480
Speaker 3: have a gossip session.

1735
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: I think we also just like I don't know, pay

1736
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: it like try to assume the best in both of

1737
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 1: us and sort of like I think we both are

1738
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 1: like just seeing where it goes, like the friendship thing.

1739
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: We're sort of like because we have different wants and

1740
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: interests sometimes but sort of like but sometimes I'll come

1741
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: to your type of thing, right, my type of thing,

1742
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: but not all the time. If we're not free.

1743
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 3: Then yeah, yeah, I do think that's I do think

1744
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 3: that's true.

1745
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 2: But I also would say that.

1746
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: You do have to.

1747
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 2: Lead with love.

1748
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do find like, yes, we separate business and friendship,

1749
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 3: but like everything i'm saying to Sam, I'm saying with

1750
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 3: love and everything i'm feeling towards him, I'm feeling in

1751
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 3: that way, and.

1752
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 2: I think it strengthens both relationships.

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01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: I agree there's a familial commitment.

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01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 3: I think that is ultimately what it is. It's it

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01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 3: actually does feel like the way that like two brothers

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01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 3: would start a restaurant. Yeah, although of course it's like

1757
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 3: when two brothers start a restaurant, they're gonna they're doing.

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01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, folks, that were when two brothers start a restaurant

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01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 5: and they don't, I iodebris.

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01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 2: No that's crazy. Imagine that's not hiring.

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01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 5: See how long this last?

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01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah for real?

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01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, seems pretty dramatic, even with iodebris.

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01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, holding on by a thread.

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01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like people are yelling all the time. There's tension,

1766
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: mental health issues, mental health issues.

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01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 5: I couldn't imagine.

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01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine.

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01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 2: Okay, we should do our finals.

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01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,799
Speaker 1: A final segment. So our final segment is called shout Outs.

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01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 1: In in segment, we pay amash to the Grand Street

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01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: tradition of the radio shout out, shouting out to anything

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01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: that we are enjoying. People play these things ideas, we

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01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: make them up on the spot and we go first.

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01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 2: I'll go first.

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01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: What's up preaks, losers and perverts around the globe. I

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01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: want to give a huge shout out to get this

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01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: shaving in the shower. I've never done this before, and

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01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: as I'm staying in the Pod hotel, it's quite small,

1780
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: which I of course love efficiency, and but I was like,

1781
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 1: I need to shave. It's been so long, and I like,

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01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: don't know, the sink is not quite right, and I

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01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 1: was like, maybe I'll try doing it in the shower.

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01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 1: Let me. I felt like I was in a damn commercial.

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01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: I felt luxurious. As we all know, shaving has many

1786
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 1: cultural implications for me, and it is sort of pretending

1787
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 1: I'm a masculine dad, and it's like a psycho sexual

1788
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: game I play with myself doing in the shower. That

1789
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: was crazy and it worked like a charm. It was easy,

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01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and I felt like this is how

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01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: I should be doing it. Although it does feel like

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01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what the rules are on wasting water,

1793
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: but I felt like I was wasting quite a bit

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01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: of it, and I'm never sure. I wish one would

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01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: tell me when I reached the point when you've actually

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01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: had enough water for the day, especially shower water, because

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01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 1: there's no It's all very vague at this stage. But

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01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm in New York and there's water out planning. Just

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01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: look outside, there's two rivers and an ocean. So shout

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01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 1: out to shaving the shower. I love you, XIXO Sam.

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01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I actually have one.

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01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 3: I want to give a shout out to get this

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01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,799
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine collection of Zadie Smith essays Changing

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01:28:58,840 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 3: my Mind.

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01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: Now.

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01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 2: This is a book I.

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01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 3: Attempted to read when I was in high school. And

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01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 3: I actually found some of the literary criticism to be

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01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 3: challenging at the time, and I picked it back up

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01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 3: and I am It's like, every single page is blowing

1811
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 3: my mind. It is so fun to read. She's so smart.

1812
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 3: She was younger than me when she wrote it. And

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01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 3: I want to say about Daty Smith, I'm aware that

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01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 3: she has fallen out of favor among certain a certain

1815
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 3: kind of you know, cool urban twenty to thirty year old.

1816
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 3: I think people think she has in some ways sold out.

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01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 3: I think people find her whole kind of like anti internet,

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01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 3: anti culture, cancel culture thing to be somehow grading. Listen,

1819
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 3: I'm okay with people's reputations going up and down. But

1820
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 3: to me, I trust her and I'm going to read

1821
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 3: what she writes. And she is especially good at nonfiction

1822
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 3: in my opinion, and this book is really doing it

1823
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 3: for me. And maybe the issue is that if she

1824
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 3: was written before the Internet and before she had before

1825
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 3: the social internet, before she had to grapple with those things.

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01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 3: But I am just having the time of my life

1827
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 3: and I highly recommend picking it up and honestly picking

1828
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 3: up anything written in two thousand nine.

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01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 2: It was an amazing time, so huge shoutout.

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01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: WHOA, that's interesting. It's funny that someone is both anti

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01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 1: internet culture and anti cancel whole.

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01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 3: It's not I'm even I'm painting in broad strokes because

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01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:22,560
Speaker 3: that's how other people are commenting on it.

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01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

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01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think either of those things are really true.

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01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 3: I just think, you know, it's like she's getting older

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01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 3: like everyone else, and so she's gonna like say things

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01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 3: that young people are rolling their eyes at.

1839
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: Right. It's like Joe not knowing the Spice Girls. It's

1840
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: like not really true.

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01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one would not have been truer.

1842
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 3: I'm even regretting being like defensive. It's like, no, I

1843
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 3: like her writing, and I don't care if someone on

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01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 3: the internet was like she sucks.

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01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 1: No totally. It's really nice to zoom out from those

1846
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: yeah blanket critiques.

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01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 3: I just you do find someone falling out it, like

1848
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 3: she was the cool writer for so long and then

1849
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 3: you just like, don't hear people loving her as much?

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01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what and what what what? What's the listeners?

1851
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,839
Speaker 5: I want to give a shout out to my auntie Brenonia,

1852
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 5: because yes, what she is a sweetie, pat she is

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01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 5: a woman pastor. She is a woman who is a pastor,

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01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 5: but she is also just so smart and so wonderful.

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01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 5: And I thought because she was a woman pastor, that

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01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 5: her mind was was was was was was was.

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01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I can tell what's happening, which is like, I

1858
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 3: always struggle with talking about family members in a different context.

1859
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 2: When you're like, well, I don't want to make.

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01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 3: This person into a caricature for the sake of comedy,

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01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 3: and I am trying to express love.

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01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 5: Thank you for saying that. Thank you for saying that

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01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 5: we all do accessories.

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01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 2: Okay, you can also just be like, shout out to

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01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 2: my auntie cure.

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01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 5: That it doesn't have to be a whole thing.

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01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you could even do accessories and then at

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01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 1: the end and also shout out to et cetera.

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01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, what's up, listeners. Gosh, I'm excited to be here.

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01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 5: I'm giving a shout out to accessories because they could

1871
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 5: just completely turn a dark day into a better day.

1872
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 5: I recently said I wanted to be cyberpunk. I went

1873
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 5: out pictures, I looked of all all kinds of outfits.

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01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 5: The way that you change your styles, it's not even

1875
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 5: really about the shape of the shirt, the shape of

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01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 5: the pant, the shape of the skirt, the length the hems. Really,

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01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 5: it's about the accessories. You could have white T shirt

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01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 5: and blue jeans and dress in any kind of freaking

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01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 5: style that you want it. It's just about the accessories.

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01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 2: Babe be, babe be.

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01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 5: If you just get on a newsboy cap like they

1882
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 5: wear not musical newsies, boom, you got a whole different thing.

1883
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 5: Or if you got a pair of cowboy buoes on boom,

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01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 5: you got a whole different thing. Accessories are amazing, and

1885
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 5: I really wish that I knew more about them and

1886
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 5: about how to pair them in different ways. But you

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01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 5: know what, I've started wearing this silver cuff on my arm.

1888
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 5: I walk in a room, people treat me differently. I

1889
01:32:57,960 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 5: walk in the room, people sit up a bit straighter

1890
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 5: because I know that I am somebody. Because I ordered

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01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 5: my silver arm cuff from a lady in Croatia. Yes,

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01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 5: I did booming about a boom to that.

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01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:13,839
Speaker 4: And additionally, shout out to my Auntie Ben who recently

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01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 4: showed me a great doubt of love and of care.

1895
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 4: And she she is a pastor woman, a woman who

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01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 4: is a pastor, And she asked me. She she sent

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01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 4: me down.

1898
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 5: She said, I want to talk about your relationship. I said,

1899
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 5: relationship with Christ of course. She said, no boyfriend, you

1900
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 5: have one yet? I said, Auntie, I gotta go shout out.

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01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 5: Thank you guys. You showed me incredible.

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01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: Amounts of kind of and I love the accessories.

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01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 2: No, it's really amazing. Thank you, Thank you.

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01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 1: Joe.

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01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 2: Where can people find you?

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01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 5: New York?

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01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 2: Please give it in all right, Well, I gotta go home.

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01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: I gotta go home. Thanks for doing the pod, Bye

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01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,960
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