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Speaker 2: Are we allowed to root for teams?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh not you?

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Speaker 2: Why not me?

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Speaker 1: Because you have a game coming up?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean you're doing at root for the Padres.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can root for the Padres. Yeah? Why

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Speaker 1: because you love the cub so much? Exactly brackets. Let's

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Speaker 3: I think the Phillies are gonna win the World Series.

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Speaker 3: I think the Mariners are going to make it to

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Speaker 3: the World Series. And I think that's rage baiting when

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Speaker 1: Explain anything else here. You got like thirty seconds. So

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Speaker 2: I think the series.

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Speaker 3: I think the series between the Red Sox Yankees is

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Speaker 3: The Dodgers series is sorry Red, It's a nice job.

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Speaker 3: And I think the Cubs and Padres series is gonna

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be. I think it's gonna be awesome to

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Speaker 2: This is the most homersh bracket I've ever seen in

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Speaker 2: my life. I mean, Brewers, Phillies, and the NLCS. I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, Broy, Phillies win because I'm a Phillies fan

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Speaker 1: True, what would you do if the White Sox were

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't pick them if they weren't gonna win. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I did the White Sox Astros in twenty one, and

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Speaker 1: Why did you think that?

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Speaker 2: Because he said that, I was grew open the rooting

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Speaker 1: Oh how dare you not say that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, So what's your bracket breakdown?

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Speaker 2: I went anti Crats. Actually, I just picked every team.

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Speaker 2: The Crats you know, didn't play for that. We made

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I did. I did the two

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Speaker 2: I almost played for the Dodgers. I I thought I'd

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Speaker 1: So that's why what would those two Mariners story is hilarious,

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Speaker 1: Postseason X factors. What is an X factor. Don't worry

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Speaker 1: one name that you think is a big X factor

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Speaker 1: in October.

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Speaker 2: Hobby bios. Why because do they get the good hobby

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Speaker 2: the second half? Where does he plays? He play center?

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Speaker 2: help them? I think Harvey Bayo's is a big thing.

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Speaker 2: If the Detroit Tigers want to go deep into the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Shortstop nine spot in Game one.

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Speaker 2: There you go. But he's got to hit, and he's

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Speaker 2: gotta have forget hitting. He's just gotta have good at bats,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the first couple of months, man, he fell off.

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Speaker 1: Was Okay, that's a good name to start. I like

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Speaker 2: Kratz, Trek Scouble, No.

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Speaker 1: Are you messing with us?

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Speaker 2: We had the same conversation last year. He's the best

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Speaker 3: X factor has to be somebody who if they don't

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Speaker 2: No, it's the other way. You need somebody that will

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Speaker 2: because everyone expects Trek Scouble to do something, it has

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Speaker 2: the X factors. Like last year, who was the X

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Speaker 1: No, I think that was a much better pick than

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Speaker 1: Schooble score a grate, a top three pitcher in the sport.

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Speaker 3: Unexpected breakout, then my Tigers. X factor is going any team, No, No,

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Speaker 3: play that premium position. He may not Hobby may play

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Speaker 1: The turm X factor gets thrown around in sports all

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Speaker 2: Parker Meadows one.

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Speaker 1: We'll take it. Okay, give me someone that's.

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Speaker 3: Someone that's not on the patient up there at the plate.

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Speaker 1: For Let me put this out there. The Blue Jays

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Speaker 2: He guys can get on me for this, but I'm

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Speaker 1: Pa, that's a star name though I was Scooball not allowed,

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Speaker 2: Jay, I'll accept it. That's a great Much like Hovey Bayas.

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Speaker 2: If you sense a theme here, PCA's second half was

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Speaker 1: And even if he doesn't hit, he does a lot

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Speaker 2: Was my X factor.

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Speaker 1: Haha. All right, Krats, you're gonna do this the whole show. Crats.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Marsh with the Phillies home exact opposite. He's had

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Speaker 3: And I always feel like guys in the seventh, sixth

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Speaker 1: Well done. If you think we're off on our X

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Speaker 2: This He's been talked about for a while though, Bochie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this year, this year being the last year, Yes, why.

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Speaker 2: Just because he's seven years old. He already won there.

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Speaker 2: Just I just think that this was something that people

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I even joked with Bochi about this last time I

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Speaker 1: What do you say?

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Speaker 1: Talk about that. It's like the last week of the year.

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Speaker 2: I was a month or so to go. But no,

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Speaker 1: I'm always curious about this two crats because they said mutual.

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Speaker 3: Or maybe his frustration in the last series. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's like, why am I going to keep pushing something?

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Speaker 3: also still go to San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: I know for a.

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Speaker 3: Fact these teams are already doing interviews today, not just

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Speaker 3: this process is gonna happen like that.

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Speaker 1: Which team will aroocrats manage next year.

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Speaker 2: The Christopher Doc Pioneers.

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Speaker 1: Good, we're keeping him. Rocco ball Deli out as Twins manager.

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Speaker 1: It's all Rocos far No.

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Speaker 2: This one kind of surprises me.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm being circus one kind of surprise.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Rocco could have done. They traded

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Speaker 1: The only thing he could have done, is what there's

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Speaker 2: Minnesota just surprised me because I thought Roco was a

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Speaker 1: I think last year the scapegoat was fad Levine. In

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Speaker 1: he's telling people up, we're gonna get a new manager

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Speaker 1: that'll fix things. You have to do something right. You

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Speaker 1: can't do zero because they're not gonna do much roster

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Speaker 1: So let's blame another person. Last year was bad and

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Speaker 1: that short of blaming Manny Margo for going oh for

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Speaker 1: But Eric Kratz, how much of this had to do

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Speaker 3: Thanks zero, Good for Roco. Good for Roco that he's got,

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Speaker 3: he's got an opportunity to go somewhere else. Never good

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Speaker 3: if somebody gets fired. But this guy, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: I think he's a good manager. From players that I

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Speaker 3: don't think he did anything wrong. Every trade deadline, Oh

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Speaker 3: We didn't give you anybody extra. So whatever you give

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Speaker 3: So to me, there's some openings and I think he's

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Speaker 1: Yep, he'll probably be managing a playoff team next year.

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Speaker 1: And then lastly, real quick, Carlos Mendoza and Ali Marmol

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Speaker 2: So well, you see what you see having is people

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Speaker 2: And people that say, question is move he had Edwin

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Speaker 1: Sunday, wouldn't matter. They scored lot, they scored year run.

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Speaker 1: Right away, what day scored zero zero runs? Okay? Aj

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Speaker 2: I am, I'm gonna keep it. It's a Ken Griffy

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Speaker 2: I believe it is. And yeah, heck ya, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ge him to send it to me. What

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Speaker 2: and it's only gonna make it worth more. So I

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Speaker 1: His neck graded nine nineteen eighty nine upper deck. You

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Speaker 1: One other note from after yesterday's show, Ben Charrington coming

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Speaker 1: The rebuild continues in Pittsburgh. Noah Hayle's put that out

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Speaker 1: I do too, but I feel for Skeens Skeans.

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Speaker 2: What about Connor Griffin, the Minor League.

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year, He doesn't even know what he's

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Speaker 2: They have some pieces. Brian Rolds is a nice player.

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Speaker 1: You sound like Bob Nutty.

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Speaker 2: Pieces.

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Speaker 1: We have some pieces. Let's bring Ben back again. But like,

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Speaker 2: I know, but this is what GM's do. Oh, I

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Speaker 2: I need five more years.

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Speaker 1: I was the manager, gotz.

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Speaker 2: Well, Don Kelly did better.

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Speaker 3: something you can build on. But the keyword is building

436
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Speaker 3: on it. Build on that pitching staff, build on Connor Griffin,

437
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: build on Brian Reynolds before you lose Schemes. So basically

438
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 3: they have two years to get this thing done and

439
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 3: then Schemes is gone.

440
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Speaker 1: Speaking news, Ron Washington is hoping to get back to

441
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: good health and return to the Angels. He will not

442
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: have that opportunity, and neither will Raymontgomery, who was the

443
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: interim manager. Neither of them returning to the Angels for

444
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Sam Blum doing a great job always

445
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: reporting on the Angels. No confirmed info yet on perrimination

446
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: who is the GM of the team for now, But

447
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: the Angels will definitely have a new manager next year.

448
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think the surprise. Remember Ron Washington

449
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 2: had the health problems. That the he had the heart problems.

450
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: I believe it was.

451
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Montgomery was taken over, Precomery took over,

452
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: so he was.

453
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Speaker 2: Kind of the interim guy. This is not a surprise.

454
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 2: I mean watched his contract was up, I believe, so

455
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 2: I think that this was This was not a surprise.

456
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,959
Speaker 2: Now the only question is perriman Asian coming back as

457
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: the GM in President of Baseball off. So we'll see.

458
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 2: But I mean, you never know that you know, who

459
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: knows what? Anaheim and the Angels.

460
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Speaker 1: We have some hot mess teams from the top.

461
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should bring back Film.

462
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: I thought he did a nice job given the personnel.

463
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: Krat's no surprise here, right that the Angels will continue

464
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Speaker 1: to rotate the manager carousel. They should bring back Joe

465
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Speaker 1: Madden too. Why not? I thought Joe's Mike Soosha, yep,

466
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: Mike Sosia all good managers, but apparently not in Anaheim.

467
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Speaker 1: They do not please are Marino?

468
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 3: What is to me if you're a manager and you're like,

469
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 3: let's say it's Skip Schumacher and he's got experience, he's

470
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 3: brought in my question and I don't know if the

471
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 3: prospective managers ever get to ask a question. But he's

472
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 3: in a spot where he's like, oh, I got experience,

473
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 3: I don't have to have this job. What is the

474
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 3: expectation that you have of me as your manager? Do

475
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: you expect me to win with the teams that you

476
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 3: not Perrymansian put together? Is your expectation that I am

477
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: supposed to be a playoff build a playoff team with

478
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: what you were giving me? Because if that's the expectation,

479
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 3: I need more than a two year deal. He keeps

480
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 3: giving out two year deals. I need more than that.

481
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 3: I need more of a runway.

482
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Speaker 2: Now.

483
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: If it's somebody like like we had go go on

484
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: the other day, If it's Ryan Goins and he's like,

485
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: I gotta have a managerial job, like I gotta get

486
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 3: my foot wet somehow, then you know what, you don't

487
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Speaker 3: really have a choice.

488
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Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm going to present the other side.

489
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: Here, Bob Melvin. Somebody in the chat said, Bob Melvin,

490
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 2: he hasn't managed it in iim yet. Sure, he's got

491
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 2: to check off every California and West Coast team.

492
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: That's true, he's gonna make the tour. But playing off

493
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: his point, he said, if you're rying going you don't

494
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: have a ton of leverage. You're trying to get into

495
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Speaker 1: a manager position.

496
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: That's why people take these jobs.

497
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but washing didn't have leverage either because he hadn't

498
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: gotten a job in forever, and so he's like, yeah,

499
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: I'll do what I gotta do. I'll take a short

500
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: term deal just to join the party here and see

501
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: if I can catch a little bit of fire. But

502
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: it's rough organization to manage it.

503
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: Is, but people want that. You gotta look at Look

504
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: at Terry Francona, Right, he went to Philly, who didn't

505
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: do very well. Okay, but they they saw enough to

506
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: hire him in Boston. Right. So a lot of times,

507
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: if you look at a lot of managers, their first

508
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 2: chop doesn't work out tremendously. Now, there are there are

509
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: times that it does, but more than likely the first

510
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: time for a lot of guys, doesn't work out great,

511
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 2: Tony the Russa White Sox fired right, unceremoniously, let go

512
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 2: by Hawk, the Hawker Roo. I mean, there's a lot

513
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: of guys you can look at. It didn't work out,

514
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: Tremando and it's the second time where they win that

515
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: World Series and they make that move.

516
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: But who has worked out for the Angels? Yeah, for

517
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: the Guardians. But the Guardians are run pretty well. And

518
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: I just to be clear, I'm going directly to the

519
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: top of the food chain here. This has been an

520
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: issue for a long time for the Angels, okay, And

521
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 1: I think there are some nice pieces, There are some

522
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: promising pieces. But there are a few organizations that run

523
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: very differently from everyone else. And this is one of

524
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: those organizations. Right. The Pirates are in this list, The

525
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: Rockies are in this list. Do we see a trend, Yes,

526
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: it's just not a thing for them for a long

527
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: period of time. It sucks. Hopefully someone else comes in

528
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: and can help continue to, you know, bring something different

529
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: and hopefully turn the tide. But some of it has

530
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: to do with personnel, and a lot of it has

531
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Speaker 1: to do with how an organization is run. They cut

532
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: corners whenever they can. It would be like if you

533
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: have a grandfather who's a little crap and he gets

534
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: to wake up and run a team. I'm sorry, that

535
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: is how it is. If you talk to people within

536
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: the organization, It's been like that for a long time.

537
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 2: It happens. But Derek, I'll hire somebody because there's only

538
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: thirty of these jobs if people want to jump.

539
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: Beautiful setting, nice ballpark, nice young players.

540
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: Christian Moore.

541
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm knocking one person here. I'm sorry. Okay, that's

542
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: the one constant for a long period of time. Most

543
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: of the rest of the Angels organization has a lot

544
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: of promise to it. But there's a reason why this

545
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: isn't working. And my only point here is there were

546
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: plenty of fans very critical of wash Right definitely has

547
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: his own style and some of the moves he made

548
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have made a difference. He was trying to

549
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: do something different. Wash is different, right, His approach is different.

550
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 1: But I would say Pat murphy'spproach is different too, and

551
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: that's working out pretty well for the Brewers, you know

552
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like some some Angels fins ah wosh

553
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: i gotta get him out. He wasn't the problem. No,

554
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: So is there any human being on the planet that

555
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: would have led the Angels to the playoffs this year

556
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: a manager?

557
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: No, you could say that about a lot of teams, right,

558
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: Twins by the manager.

559
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the.

560
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: Fall guy inspired their manager mid season? Exactly, Rocky inspired

561
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: their manager mid season.

562
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: There actually were a lot of changes this year, about

563
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: a third in the league. So what's next? Like, what

564
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: do you do?

565
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: You know what if I'm the Angels, I go find

566
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: a young, hot commodity manager that can come in and

567
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: I say, I'll give you a five or six year chance.

568
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: In five or six I'm just saying for a manager.

569
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: I know, sounds crazy. I'm just saying, And you try

570
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: to get somebody who you think is the next thing,

571
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: whether there's Joe Madden, whether it's whoever you want it

572
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: to be, whoever you think that next big thing is.

573
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: You go and you say, all right, we're going to

574
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: give you a five year on track, in a five

575
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: year runway to figure out where to go and what

576
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: to do and try to do some different. Hey, we

577
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: got these great young players, let's see him all the

578
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: way through, right, and we're going to spend money the

579
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: right way. But now the question is will already do that?

580
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

581
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not a knock on money either. Like

582
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: the Angels have spent, they just haven't spent wisely. Sometimes

583
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: I feel like the knock on me is, oh, you're

584
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: just saying everyone's cheap. I'm not saying the Angels are cheap.

585
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: I don't say the Oriels are cheap either. I just

586
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: said they spent their money the wrong way. Lardy Morena

587
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: will buy that superstar talent, but then he'll get asked

588
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: about something really small on the budget that every other

589
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: team does, and he'll say, no, that's problem.

590
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: The answer is, you got to find somebody that Ardi

591
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: Morena will listen to and we'll trust that lifting lifting

592
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: weights in a tent for big leaguers for spring training

593
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: is probably not setting your team up. And if that's

594
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: a little thing that you don't want to change, now

595
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: they're changing that. So maybe he listens to Perimonesian. Maybe

596
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: the that he has there will start to build something

597
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: that can be more the easy, low hanging fruit that

598
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: other teams already take care of that they weren't taking

599
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: care of. And it was like, oh, well, we need

600
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: to do this, So that's the answer. What that answer is,

601
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

602
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: Your point is a really good one because I think

603
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: about Buster Posey and how he literally can get giants'

604
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: ownership to do things that many others can't. So is

605
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: there somebody like that for the Angels? Here's the problem.

606
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: Some of that has been tried with guys around the organization.

607
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: I'll bring up one, but don't quote me too hard here.

608
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to look this stuff up on

609
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: the fly. I know there was a situation with Troy

610
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: Percival and he was helping out and he was anti analytics,

611
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: and you can't do that right where he's knocking certain

612
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: things that everyone else is doing, so that ends up

613
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: making it worse. Wants Pictures to care more about eyes

614
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: than the tablets and the info. Like, you can't go

615
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: all out and just say, hey, we're going to go

616
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: back to the eighties, right Like, there's got to be

617
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: a balance there. There is always that shift, and you

618
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: need to be able to say, hey, like we're doing

619
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: too much here, But to just say like throw out

620
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: all this crap, you can't do that either. So that's

621
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: not the right person to be in his ear. You

622
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: need somebody that is keeping up with the modern game.

623
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what your age is.

624
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: He's got to be a new young guy that Yeah,

625
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: let him have a little bit of free reign and

626
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: let them do some things, try some stuff, because what

627
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: they're doing now ain't working.

628
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: Who has enough clout to tell the owner I got.

629
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Speaker 2: It, Joe Madden didn't have it, Who the heck has it?

630
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: That's my question. I'm honestly asking. I'm like pleading with

631
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: people watching right now to come up with a name

632
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: that you think can help turn things around. And the

633
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: only thing to really turn things around is to be

634
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: in his ear and say, dude, I got this. You're

635
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: not in baseball. You just own a team. You should

636
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: not be making decisions like this. Someone said, Erstad, you

637
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: need somebody that played and won with the Angels.

638
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: What about Salmon?

639
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: Were like, he's been around the team a little bit.

640
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean, but that would do that.

641
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't Urstad do that?

642
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: He lives in Nebraska. You know, he's got kids that

643
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: are in high school. He just he cheated the Nebraska

644
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: coaching thing for a while. I don't know, maybe he would.

645
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I call him and reach out, but

646
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't think he would.

647
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: He's connected with younger players. It's it's such a it's

648
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: such a threaded needle. The guy that you have to

649
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: you have to be able to connect with younger players.

650
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: You got to be able to have enough big league

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Speaker 3: clout for Ardie Mourana to be like, oh okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would. I would listen to something that you have

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Speaker 3: to say. You have to have some managerial experience. You

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Speaker 3: have to have something, because clearly he's gone after Joe Madden.

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Speaker 3: He's gone, after he's gone after Ron Washington, like he's

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Speaker 3: tried everything in his mind. You gotta you gotta find

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Speaker 3: somebody that really threads all the needles.

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Speaker 2: And it's gonna be tough. Good luck, Perryman.

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Speaker 1: As someone Carrere said, Bruce Bochi've.

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Speaker 2: Already done that.

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Speaker 1: Gabe Capler gave Cappler's on here, Benji Molina, Joe Girardi

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Speaker 1: good good names. I like this exercise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said. Tory Lavello spoke about something that

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Speaker 1: we know and I think the world should know. I'll

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Speaker 1: let toy take it away.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm the manager of the baseball team once it

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Speaker 4: hits the dugout. Once it's in the dugout, I can

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Speaker 4: make baseball decisions when it comes to personnel things, when

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Speaker 4: it comes to the finer working dynamics inside of rotations

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Speaker 4: and in lineups.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have a.

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Speaker 4: Seat at the table with their open discussions. The manager's

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Speaker 4: roles have changed over the past twenty five years, that's

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Speaker 4: for sure.

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Speaker 2: I like stability, I like consistency. I like trends and habits.

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Speaker 4: I believe in the gut instinct, but there are certain

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Speaker 4: things that change the mood and the mind of what

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Speaker 4: decision has made. And there's a group of people around

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Speaker 4: me inside of the baseball day that will help.

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Speaker 2: Me make good decision.

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Speaker 4: And there's a group of people that are behind the

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Speaker 4: scenes that are making a lot of decisions that used

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Speaker 4: to be made in the traditional baseball manager sense.

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Speaker 2: And that's fine. I want to make it simple. I

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Speaker 2: run a baseball game. That's all I need to do every.

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Speaker 1: Single day, thank you. That's how it works with just

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Speaker 1: about every team. There's been some I know there's been

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Speaker 1: some situations where I've heard gms be like, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I let the manager do whatever he wants. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: shut up. And I literally went to the manager for

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Speaker 1: one of those situations and he was like, that's not true.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm not saying in a bad way,

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Speaker 1: it's just like that's not true. Like why is he

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Speaker 1: saying that. He's like, I don't know, it's like some

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Speaker 1: taboo thing where they can't say that they have a

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Speaker 1: say in the lineups, like this has been going on

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Speaker 1: for what ten years now more maybe fifteen. I remember

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Speaker 1: Bo Porter like didn't he reportedly get into it a

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Speaker 1: little with lou Now about the lineup the store.

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Speaker 2: There's a Larry most where he said when he went

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Speaker 2: interviewed they in Houston, they said to him, we're going

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Speaker 2: to give you the lineup every day. Are you okay

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Speaker 2: with it? And Bo was like, this interview's over now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true, but that was hearsay

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Speaker 2: from people. Sounds like sounds like Larry yeah, But I

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Speaker 2: mean it also sounds like what they did.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I think I think something that

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Speaker 3: that Tory Levello didn't say in that interview. He's like,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't just manage, you know, when they're on the field,

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Speaker 3: you're managing people now. I think we I think the

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Speaker 3: AJ would agree that the managers nowadays are way different

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Speaker 3: in how they interact with players and whether that's right

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Speaker 3: or wrong, or you got to be old school or

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Speaker 3: you gotta be you know, Lou Panellen pissed off at

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Speaker 3: every rookie and only lean on the That's like, that's

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Speaker 3: up for debate. But I think that's one of the

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Speaker 3: things that tory Leavelo does incredibly well. He manages people.

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Speaker 3: AJ talked about, Hey, I played for this manager. He

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Speaker 3: had the lineup for the entire week. I'm gonna play

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Speaker 3: these four games. I'm gonna have off on Thursday, and

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Speaker 3: then I'm gonna play Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Like, it's conversations

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Speaker 3: that are talked with and talked through with the players

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Speaker 3: so that they know what to expect. And that can't

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Speaker 3: be that can't be had from the front office. That

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Speaker 3: has to be the manager's job.

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Speaker 2: Well, what he said was he played for Sparky Anderson,

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Speaker 2: and what he said about spark Anderson was the same

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Speaker 2: way I was when I played for Tom Kelly. Managers

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Speaker 2: had all the power we over the gym. The managers

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Speaker 2: would tell the GM basically what they wanted and go

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Speaker 2: get this player, and the managers would literally tell you

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Speaker 2: you're bad. You're not You're you're doing bad, You're well,

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Speaker 2: I don't like you. You're out here. It happened a lot,

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Speaker 2: So I think that's the way it's changed is everyone

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Speaker 2: has to be understood and and me says for the

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Speaker 2: better or worse it it depends on where you are.

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Speaker 2: But I honestly think that it's just changed and communications

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Speaker 2: is the key, like Carot's it.

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