1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: We welcome you into the Cross Country Mortgage Campus here 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: in Barria on Jcon Gibbs alongside Andrew Ribble. This is 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: the best podcast available and Gribbs. The draft officially in 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: the rear view mirror, and now we look forward to 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: rookie minicamp, a little schedule release, a lot of things 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: still to come here, but the the bulk of player 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: and talent acquisition for this football team is not in 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: the rear view mirror here, and we welcome in a 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: new draft class to the campus and the season. My friend, Yeah, 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's a different feeling, you know than previous years. 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: You don't have a first round pick, you move out 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: of the second round, so he's starting the third round 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: first time the Browns have drafted that late since two 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: thousand eight, So a different kind of kind of vibe 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: to this draft class, but kind of filled with some 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: players that that are going to serve some key depth 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: on this team, which is what I think was the 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: big goal going into it. A lot of trades have happened. 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: We're just gonna break down the guys that are here 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: and try to make sense of it all and how 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: these guys help. Coming up on the show, today, Uh, 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura goes one on one with Brown's wide receiver 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: coach Chad O'Shea to talk about that wide receiver room 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: and the newest additions to that wide receiver room, including 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper and of course rookie wide receiver David Bell 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: out of Perdue. But first and foremost GRIBs. The Browns 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: waited almost six hours before making a draft pick on 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: draft weekend. They did so at pick number sixty eight, 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: and they did so in taking cornerback Martin Emerson Jr. 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: Out of Mississippi State. Uh, a guy that turns out 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: probably is gonna get a lot more playing time that 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: maybe we all thought. With the trade of Troy Hill 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: on Saturday to the Rams. Yeah, it's interesting and this 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: is kind of in theme with this podcast. This is 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: the ultimate best player available selection because the Browns went 36 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: into this draft arguably is deep at any position on 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: the roster, as they were at cornerback. So it was 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: at the time a little bit of a head scratcher. 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: But then twenty four hours later, or maybe about eighteen 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: hours later, somewhere Brown's trade Troy Hill back to the Rams. 41 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: That frees up a spot in the room. And and 42 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: makes more sense of Martin Emerson. My question is, and 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: will address this going into mini camp and training camps, 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: who takes over in the slot because I don't know, 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: especially with the wave Emerson's built six to two one. 46 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he's more of your traditional outside kind of cornerback. 47 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: Greedy is as well, so as Denzel. So does that 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: mean does Greg Newsome Seymour time in the slot, which 49 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: is something he did last year and it's a truly 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: valuable position. They're they're out on the field of the 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: time anyways, So it'll be interesting to see the makeup 52 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: of that room because not a lot of guys in 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: that room have that traditional slot experience now, but it's 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: something that can definitely be learned over the next few months. 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: And one to wonder if the team won't go out 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: and add another body in that slot, uh, in free agency, 57 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: because because there's still a number of guys out there 58 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: in free agency, oh for sure, and there's still time 59 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: I think with the roster is gonna get padded here 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: first with some undrafted free agents, then some some other 61 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: free agents that are still out on the market. Uh, 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: this can be a pretty busy time for teams. I 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: think it was the The deavine was four pm Monday 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: on how things affect compics and right away you see 65 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: the Saints go out and signed Tyra Matthew. So the 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: activity might be picking up a little bit, just won't 67 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: look like that first wave of free agency it just yet. 68 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: So that was the first pick for the Cleveland Browns 69 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: at pick sixty eight, at pick seventy eight, again three 70 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: third rounders, three fourth rounders that eventually became two fours, 71 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: and some future draft capital including a fifth this season. 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: But uh the second of the three uh third rounders, 73 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: pick seventy eight, the Browns address that edge rusher position. 74 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: They get Alex right out of you, a B six 75 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: five to sixty seven, A solid player, a guy that 76 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: I know, uh we've talked about in a few of 77 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: our mock drafts here Gribbs leading up to the draft, 78 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: and a guy that uh we were hoping I think 79 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: might be on the board. He was, and the Browns 80 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: snatch him up at pick s. Yeah. It's someone that 81 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: I think is going to be a developmental kind of 82 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: guy and kind of grow into the position and get 83 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: anybody has the traits the skills set you want, U 84 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: ab hasn't had a draft pick in a while. You 85 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: gotta remember that they stopped their football program for a 86 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: couple of years and reignited it. Similarry Ogen Joe Vibes, 87 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: if you will with it with that kind of team 88 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: and selection. But yeah, the Browns need some depth at 89 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: defensive end. We don't know what's gonna happen with you, 90 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: Dave and Clowney, but they've kind of added some bodies 91 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: with Chase Winovich now, Alex Right, Isaac Roschell, Stephen Weatherly. 92 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: The room is starting to come together, and then we'll 93 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: see who kind of emerges to go alongside Miles Garrett there. 94 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: Then it pick number ninety nine. The fan base has 95 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: been clamoring for a wide receiver. You go and get 96 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, and the Browns get a guy that 97 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: they were very very high on, as you'll hear from 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: Chad O'Shea coming up in just a few minutes, a 99 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: guy that the organization as a whole was very excited 100 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: about going into the draft. He falls to him, David Bell, 101 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: the wide receiver out of Purdue six one to twelve. 102 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: All he does is make plays. Uh. I know some 103 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: people question the forty time or whatnot. But he catches 104 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: the football and he runs great routes, and he's a 105 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: pretty pretty impressive wide receiver here coming out of produce. 106 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: I mean when it came from production. He was one 107 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: of the best receivers in college football last year. And 108 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I think that when people look at kind of the 109 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: traits that that Andrew Berry is looking for. Everyone talks 110 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: about age and athleticism, but I think college production definitely matters, 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: and this guy produced at a high level, so that 112 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: that's someone who you think can kind of step in, 113 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: uh Phil Phil a need, whether it's in that kind 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: of big slot role or or just out there in 115 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: some form or fashion. I think this guy is going 116 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: to make an impact this year. I think he's bronze 117 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: drafted wider receiving third on last year and Anthony Swartz, 118 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: I think he is. With his kind of age and 119 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: and the way he's been playing at Purdue, he's probably 120 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: more built ready to step in and make can impact 121 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: as a rookie. Then maybe Shorts was who's going to 122 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: develop and hopefully blossom here in the coming years. Bells 123 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: numbers against good teams and good competition, Go look those up. 124 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: They're pretty impressive. He has showed up and shown out 125 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: when the lights are the brightest at Perdue on the 126 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: day three we go the fourth round. Uh, the Browns 127 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: traded away one of their three fours. But they do 128 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: go out and they make a splash right off. They 129 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: can't go Uh. You've seen the videos on Cleveland Brown's 130 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: social media platforms all over the place. Perry and Winfrey 131 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, lot of Oklahoma guy. I know in our 132 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: original mock that we put together, I had him going 133 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: a pick forty four. A lot of people thought that 134 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: he would go in the second round. He falls maybe 135 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: almost fifty sixty picks at pick one O eight. The 136 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Browns get a steel Yeah. I thought a lot of 137 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: these defensive tackles fell in the draft. It wasn't just 138 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: Perry On because you saw, uh, the Steelers get to 139 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: Marvin Leal in the third round. A lot of people 140 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: had him going in the second round. The Ravens got 141 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: the guy from Yukon Uh names escaping me as well. 142 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: But he was someone who was mocked earlier. So when 143 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: they take him in the it's almost like everyone that 144 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: picked a defensive tackle, everyone was like, that's a great 145 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: pick because they've been mocked so much earlier in the draft, 146 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: so a lot of those guys fell down into the 147 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: third and fourth round, and uh, the brown scoop him 148 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: up with I think it was the third pick of 149 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: overall on Day three, So clearly they went into that 150 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: day no and they wanted to go get him, and 151 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: they got him. Uh. And and it's a it's a 152 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: position group that I still think there's places to fill. H. 153 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: So he's gonna have every opportunity to kind of come 154 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: in and ride the momentum that he's had in this 155 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: offseason because he wasn't really necessarily on everyone's map until 156 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl when he really showed out and then 157 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: kind of rode that way. I think he's clearly determined, 158 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: clearly ready to work, as he told us many times. 159 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: And so it's just about channeling that energy, uh and 160 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: turning it putting on the football field and and and 161 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: kind of earning a job on this team. He will 162 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: be by far the most polar rising player to watch 163 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: next week at Brown's rookie mini camp when he shows up, 164 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: because who knows how that's going to look, but you 165 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: know you're going to hear from him, uh next week 166 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: at Brown's rookie minicamp. So the brown straight away pick 167 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: one eighteen. They have picked one four. In the fourth round, 168 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: they take the number one kicker in this draft. By 169 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: all accounts, the ki Yeah, I believe the ODI kicker 170 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: Kad York out of l s U becomes a Cleveland Brown. 171 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: The Browns subsequently have waived. There are other two kickers. 172 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: He's the man. He will be the man. He'll get 173 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: all the reps and going forward, he will be your 174 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: starting kicker for the Cleveland Browns. Basically from day day 175 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 1: one drafted but day three of him being with the 176 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown yea. And we'll see if they bring in 177 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: make sure undrafted guy or something another to have another 178 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: leg in camp. And what's interesting about him is he 179 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: didn't handle kickoffs at l s U. Will be I 180 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: imagine he's going to do that here because he's got 181 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: a huge leg, And from all accounts that was not 182 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: a problem. I think they just wanted to give him 183 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: a little rest and get some other guys in there 184 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: too to hand kickoffs. And I think placements a little 185 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: bit more important in the college game than than it 186 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: is in the NFL for kickoffs. But anyways, big time 187 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: kicks at a big program, their first ever kicker to 188 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: be drafted, but Elise who has produced some good kickers 189 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: over the last few years and everything like that, and 190 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: it clearly was a huge need. I mean, I think 191 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: I think that, uh, some people were skepticaling where they 192 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: went and got him, but I think there was clearly 193 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: some intel there that he was probably not going to 194 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: be there the next time they were on the board. 195 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: So you know you need a kicker. You know you 196 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: like this guy the best, you might as well go 197 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: out and get him in a draft where you have 198 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: nine picks, and you might as well address a huge 199 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: important need on this. If you need a body and 200 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: the top body is there, go take him. Don't don't wait, 201 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: make the pick, and don't worry about where he's drafted, 202 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: especially if if he's as good as advertised. And now 203 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: the Browns have upgraded a kicker, punter, and a returner, 204 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: would you him Grant? Yeah, all new look to that room, 205 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: and I think it was needed. I think you wanted 206 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: to be better in all phases, uh, in that regard, 207 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: and I think you've gotten some solid guys you feel 208 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: great about going into it, where I don't think we're 209 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: maybe maybe with the Hoorkes, is there kind of some 210 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: kind of competition with Joseph Charloton, But will see. But 211 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: I think you've got your your front runners at all 212 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: three of those spots right now, all right, So I 213 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: think the Browns go out. Then on day three, we 214 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: talked about them trading pick one eighteen. I think this 215 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: was a fantastic move for the Browns because they had 216 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: three fourth rounders. But they trade that fourth round pick 217 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: to Minnesota for a Andree fourth so the stockpiling picks 218 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: and and in the fifth round they take running back 219 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: Jerome Ford out of Cincinnati. This is the ultimate pickles 220 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: Andrewburry described, just because you don't have a need today 221 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you won't have one tomorrow. And uh, the 222 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: Browns are loaded up at that position obviously with Nick Chubb, 223 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, Deernest Johnson, uh, Dmitric Felton, and now Jerome Ford. 224 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: You know, going into it, you know Kareem Hunt and 225 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: Derness Johnson are free agents at the end of next year. 226 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: You want to give some some you don't want to 227 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: come into next year being real, real empty at that position. 228 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Jerome Forards, a guy that clearly high talented player recruited 229 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: to play at Alabama, goes on in stars at Cincinnati 230 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: where they had ittastic final season for him. Just a 231 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: guy that that looks like an NFL running back that 232 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: you you can secure at a good spot in the draft. Well, 233 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: and I thought it was interesting. Andrew Berry said it best, 234 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: and so did Paul de Podesta in their Saturday wrap 235 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: up press conference. You know, a couple of years ago, 236 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: every draft pick you're drafting, you're hoping makes an impact 237 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: on your roster. Well, you don't have to make an 238 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: impact right away because you are so deep at so 239 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: many positions, but it allows you the opportunity to take 240 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: guys and develop them. And this is a prime example 241 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: of that with Jerome very similar to the previous Cincinnati 242 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: draft pick of the previous year in James Hudson. You 243 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: were hoping he didn't need to play him. You had 244 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: to play him a bunch. Uh. Hopefully you don't need 245 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: to be in a situation where Jerome Ford is your 246 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: your top ringing back, at least running back. It's a 247 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: little bit easier to make that transition in the fol 248 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: than his a tackle. Alright, So the Browns in the 249 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: sixth round, then take Michael Woods, wide receiver out of Oklahoma. Uh. 250 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: They take their third Oklahoma player in the seventh round, 251 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas, a defensive end, and they round out their 252 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: draft class with Dawson Deaton, offensive lineman out of Texas Tech. 253 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: The Isaiah Thomas pick is interesting that seems to have 254 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: generated a lot of buzz. I saw Chad uh Reuter 255 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: from NFL dot com on the three picks he liked 256 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: from every round. He has this guy in there. Uh. 257 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: Todd McShay has mentioned this player. Uh, So Isaiah Thomas 258 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: getting getting some buzz at the defensive end position. The 259 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: Browns may have found themselves a nice little player late 260 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: on Day three. Yeah, it'll be interesting because I think 261 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: once you get down in that six and seventh round range, 262 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: roster spots are not guaranteed as traphics, and I think 263 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a It's kind of reminding me of 264 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: last year's defensive tackle competition where you have a big 265 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: mix of kind of veterans uh and some younger players, 266 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be some pretty open competition I think 267 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: for those third, fourth, and potentially fifth spots, especially if 268 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: you don't go back and get you Davan Clannie. If 269 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: this is the group you're rolling with, a lot of 270 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: competition for roster spots, and Thomas will be right in 271 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: the mix there. Overall, the Browns do address needs. They 272 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: take two wide receivers. Uh, they get a couple of 273 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: defensive ends. Uh. They do get a corner. You can 274 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: never have enough corners, as we've talked about. You get 275 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: the number one kicker, a little depth at the offensive 276 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: line room and in the running back room as well. 277 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: So the Browns take care of business in the NFL 278 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: draft and build some stock and start to stockpile some 279 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: picks as well for next year. I believe already eight 280 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: picks for for next year you entered with He entered 281 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: the draft weekend with I think six. For the following years, 282 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: you come away with eight. And that's that's that's that's 283 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: when you're gonna get the best value on pick swaps. 284 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: And it's something Andrewburry has done in every draft, and 285 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna keep on doing it. Yeah. For 286 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: more on this draft class and especially the wide receiver room. Uh. 287 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: Nathan Siagura sitting down with wide receiver coach Chad O'Shea 288 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: a comprehensive look at that wide receiver room from Amari 289 00:13:54,920 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: Cooper to Donovan People's Jones, Anthony Schwartz to obviously the 290 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: rookie class David Bell and Michael Woods. Have a watch 291 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: and have a listen. Thanks guys here with Brown's wide 292 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: receiver coach and passing game coordinator chat O'Shea and coach. 293 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: First of all, great to talk to you again. Yeah, 294 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: it's great to be here with you guys and talk 295 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: through some of these players that we have acquired and 296 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: some of our new players also. Yeah, and it's nice 297 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: to have them back right, and now this is kind 298 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: of your first year with the Browns where we haven't 299 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: been in COVID protocols. We can all be around each other, 300 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: we can socialize with each other. And how nice is 301 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: it they get the guys back here and a Phase 302 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: one and now Phase two out on the grass. Yeah, 303 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: it's been great. We've been out there on the field 304 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: with these guys in the meeting rooms. Uh, we're looking 305 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: them in the eye this time around, so it's different. 306 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: We're not under the same protocols we were. The restrictions 307 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, which was you know, in 308 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: a on a zoom platform. It's just so much different 309 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: to be in a meeting room with your players to 310 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: walk out on the field and and to truly transfer 311 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: the stuff that you do in the meeting room to 312 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: the field and start building the program in the offense 313 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: that we want to build here. And this is a 314 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: nice to get to see their facial expressions, the reactions 315 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: to things and be able to kind of like you 316 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: can connect better as people. And I'm sure for you 317 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: as you you know, coach says, we look at ourselves 318 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: as not only coaches, but we're developers. And I mentioned 319 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: that's an important part of developing as being able to 320 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: understand the person and relate to them. Yeah, I mean 321 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: that to be in person with the players is so important. Um, 322 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: I see myself view myself as a teacher teacher first 323 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: and and that's what I do. I'm up in front 324 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: of the group, I'm looking these guys in the in 325 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: the eye. I can see their non verbal communication back 326 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: to me when I'm up there teaching them. Obviously, it's 327 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: such a benefit to be in person. I mean, I 328 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: think we dealt with the the COVID and the challenges 329 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: that we had in front of us on that as 330 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: well as we could have, but now it's just so 331 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: beneficial to have them in person. And I think they 332 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: would say the same thing. You know, that for them 333 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: to sit in the rooms and look at us and 334 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: and and to be able to get the information that 335 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: way has got to be beneficial to him as it 336 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: is us. You mentioned at the top, we're gonna talk 337 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: about some of the new guys before we get to 338 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: the draft and what that process is. Like. Let's start 339 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: with a trade and you get a Marii Cooper comes 340 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: in here, a guy who's had a lot of success 341 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: in this league from a first round pick. Great with 342 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: the Raiders, great with the Cowboys, and now we certainly 343 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: hope great with the Browns. What did you like about 344 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: Amor on tape? And then now that he's been here, 345 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: what's kind of experience been? Like? Yeah, on tape, the 346 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: first thing is he's a tremendous route runner. I mean 347 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,239 Speaker 1: he has got a tremendous route tree, uh, an expansive 348 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: route tree, one of which you can do a lot with. 349 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: So as a coach, you're excited to see that on tape. 350 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: And then once we've had an opportunity now to meet 351 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: with him and to be in person with him. It's 352 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: been so impressive with his character traits. He has tremendous 353 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: work ethic. Um, he just goes about his business in 354 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: a way in which I think is just very professional 355 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: and we're so glad to add him to the room. Um, 356 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, he's not gonna say much, but he shows 357 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: great leadership by his actions on what he does here 358 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: so far with us on a day the basis, I mean, 359 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: it's been awesome. It's very exciting to get an accomplished 360 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: player that's been proven in the league. I mean, you 361 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: can acquire players in different ways throughout the year, and 362 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: obviously one way you can acquire players through a trade. 363 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: And when you can get a player that there's proof 364 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: on tape that he's done it, that's exciting. And you 365 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: mentioned he's quiet, So I got a chance to talk 366 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: with him, uh last week, and yeah, he is quite 367 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: but certainly confident and understands what it is to be 368 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: a professional. I think you've touched on that, and he 369 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: said that he's already enjoyed his relationship working with you 370 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: because you understand you know that there are he was 371 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: talking about just about a slant route for example. You 372 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: know some coaches say this is exactly how a slant 373 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: route must be run. And you see, he said that 374 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: you guys have kind of talked about and you understood 375 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: that there are maybe a hundred different ways to get there, 376 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: but as long as you're there and open when you're 377 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be there and the ball gets there, that 378 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: go ahead and what whatever works for you in that way. 379 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: And so he said that he already liked that you 380 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: guys are able to kind of have that back and 381 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: forth and that he understands, Look, I'm gonna be where 382 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: you want me to be when you want me to 383 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: be there, and I'll figure out the best way to 384 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: get open with our system. Yeah, I mean, I think 385 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: that's it's so important that we have ongoing communication between 386 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: our players, especially if somebody of a Mare that's been 387 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: an accomplished player. You know, I think it's very important 388 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: that we share different ways to do things. We're not 389 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: set in stone as a coaching staff on exactly how 390 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: we want to do certain things. There's certain things we're 391 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: not going to compromise on that we think are important, 392 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: which I think he would share those same thoughts. But 393 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: there's certain things as far as route running We never 394 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: want to paralyze our players as route runners and say 395 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: we're only going to do it this way. They know 396 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: very well that their job is to get open, catch 397 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: the ball, and to compete in the run game. So 398 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: there's obviously different ways to do that. And I think 399 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: it's important for all the players to realize they're they're unique, 400 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: and they're different than everybody else, and they need to 401 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: use those unique skill sets differently than the next guy 402 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: you maybe sitting next time. And one of the things 403 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: you mentioned right off the top of the Mari separation, 404 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: and I know from talking to you a lot of 405 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: times you want to find effort. Seever can play in 406 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. Can't he separate and he's got to catch 407 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: the ball. But you're not going to get the ball 408 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: unless you're able to separate. And do you think having 409 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: a guy who is such a precise and an elite 410 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: route runner like that, not only will that help the 411 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: quarterback and only will that help the offense, but will 412 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: it help the other guys in the room understand this 413 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: is one of the ways you need to do things 414 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have success at this level. Yeah, I mean, 415 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: the best, the best way to affect positively. The group 416 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: in here is another player is what's on tape, and 417 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: what he's put on tape is the ability to separate, 418 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: especially as it relates to separation versus tight man coverage. 419 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: That's one of his greatest strengths is his ability at 420 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and the top of the routes 421 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: to separate from that tight coverage. And I think our 422 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: players will really learn from him, um. And it's so 423 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: easy as their coach to just put on the film 424 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: and to talk through the film of him doing it, 425 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: instead of me instructing and saying what we need for 426 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: for us to turn on the film and say, this 427 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: is how you're gonna be able to separate ver man coverage. 428 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: And obviously he has a very uh exceptional skill set 429 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: that that he has naturally ability wise, but he also 430 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: has worked very hard to be the route runner he is. 431 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't something that he just walks in 432 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: here and is. He has worked exceptionally hard. And that's 433 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: the thing working with him on the field that's been 434 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: so impressive is the way he goes about his work. 435 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: I know, you like guys who go about their work 436 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: the words all around this building whenever the players are 437 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: in here in Amari certainly embodies that, let's talk about 438 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: the draft, and so that just happened. Third round we 439 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: get David Bell, who was the Big Ten receiver of 440 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: the year year ago, had an unbelievable career there, and 441 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: then later on you get Michael Woods out of Oklahoma. 442 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: But let's just talk about process for a little bit. 443 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: As the receiver's coach, I know, you look at a 444 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: lot of these guys and you're gonna develop your favorites, 445 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: but you go through kind of what's process do you? 446 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: You watch tape and then where does it go? The 447 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: conversations go from there that lead to a guy that 448 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: I know you're thrilled about, David Bell. Yeah, I mean 449 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: that's the process. I'll say this starts with Andrew Berry 450 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: and our personnel department, and they do an outstanding job 451 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: of kind of setting the stage for us to allowing 452 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: us to come in the process to evaluate these players 453 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: both as people and as players. With the amount of 454 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: information that they provide us, I mean, they can't say 455 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: enough about how important that they are in the process 456 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: for us as a coaching staff to allow us then 457 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: to evaluate the player. Obviously, then when it comes to 458 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: us in the evaluation of the player, I think it's 459 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: very important to look these guys in the eye, whether 460 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: it is in a zoom interview or we're fortunate enough 461 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: to interview some of these guys in person, which at 462 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: some point in the process, either our scouting department or 463 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: myself or another coach is sat down with these guys 464 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: and Ben Ben had an opportunity to talk with them 465 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: in person, and I think that's an important part of 466 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: the process. We obviously can look at the film and 467 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: evaluate the player as a player on the film. That's 468 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: one thing, but another part of the process that's so 469 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: important for us is to sit down with them and 470 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: to talk football, to talk about life, to see what 471 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: their goals are, and see if they're a fit for 472 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. And fortunately, I can look back on 473 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: this year's draft and say we were able to be 474 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: very thorough about our evaluation and none of it started 475 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: without our exceptional job of our scouts and the personnel 476 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: department led by Andrew. So. You mentioned that tape is 477 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: your resume. Everybody knows that, right, but success for twenty 478 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: two year olds it's a little harder to figure out. 479 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: It's not just about talents. How are they going to work? 480 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: How are they going to mature in twenty one year olds. 481 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: In the case of David Bell, when you sit down 482 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: with somebody, what is the one thing that you're hoping 483 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: to take away that gives you the comfort that, yeah, 484 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: we can go with this guy, or that is the 485 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: opposite side would be no, this is not a guy 486 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: who's a fit for us. Yeah, I think that their 487 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: their traits and what we're looking for need to be 488 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: aligned with what coach Stefanski talks to our team about 489 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: on a daily basis. So when we talk about being smart, 490 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: a tough, an accountable, resilient team that always puts the 491 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: team first, those are things that were look and for 492 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: and them because that's what our program right now is 493 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: trying to be built upon, is those things. And certainly 494 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: I have some things as a receiver coach that are 495 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: very important to me, and that is are they passionate 496 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: about the game, are they smart enough to function in 497 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: a role in which we envision them doing? And then 498 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: what is their work ethic? I mean, it's as you 499 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: just mentioned, it's all of our building work, work work. 500 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: So for me not to try to identify that in 501 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 1: the player is not the right thing. The right thing 502 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: to do is say, dude, this does this guy have 503 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: the traits that we want? And we covered so highly 504 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: as far as being a Cleveland Brown's player. So, I 505 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: mean we've been fortunate in this year's draft, as you mentioned, 506 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: in a guy like David Bell who really embodies a 507 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: lot of the things that we just spoke about. Do 508 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: you always that something? Are you willing to run black? 509 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: Because if you're not, you're not playing? Yeah? That that 510 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: that's definitely part of it. But I'll say this, if 511 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: they can get open and catch the ball first, we 512 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: can get them to run black. You can get that there. Well, 513 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: David Bell can get open and catch the all you 514 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: put on his tape last year against the best competition 515 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, he at three eleven catch games, 516 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: multiple two yard plus games lad the conference in receiving. 517 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: He just feels like he's a football player. He knows 518 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: how to get open, knows how to use his body, 519 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: knows great hands. What do you love about him and 520 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: how do you see him fitting in here? The first 521 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: thing I love about him is he really scored very 522 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: high across all of our testing, whether it was a 523 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: scout talking to him, whether it was myself talking to him, 524 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: whether it was our tape evaluation from a coaching end, 525 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: match the personnel end, we all felt very strongly as 526 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: an organization about this football player. Um, they're the things 527 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: we really liked about him is when you put on 528 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: the tape, he's an exceptional route runner that has the 529 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: ability to separate verse tight coverage. And we believe that 530 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: to be true that at the end of the day, 531 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: it's going to come down to your ability to separate 532 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: versus man coverage in this league on the money downs, 533 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: on third down, and in your situational football on the 534 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: red zone. So we identified as him being able to 535 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: do that, and he at at a level that we 536 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: thought was really impressive. I mean, his best games and 537 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: some of his most productive days were versus excellent competition, 538 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: So that told us a lot about him. And then 539 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: the biggest thing with us, and really what what swayed 540 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: the vote, is when you get to this guy in person, 541 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: he's awesome. I Mean, he really was exceptional as far 542 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: as the person and his motivation and his work ethic, 543 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: and we identified him as being somebody that could really 544 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: be a fit for all the things coach talks about 545 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: on a daily basis. I'm sure you're excited to get 546 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: him on the grass. And I know, Coach that you 547 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: brought up Coach a bunch of times. Pretty even Keel 548 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: guy like and maybe behind closed doors you see a 549 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: different verson than we see, but certainly very even Keel 550 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: and our great video department put out the videos of 551 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: when they called David Bell to let him know he's coming. 552 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: And my favorite thing, which to me was as big 553 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: of an endorsement as I've ever seen from coaches. Dabel 554 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: says him, you know, I believe thank you for believing 555 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: in me. And Coach goes, oh, I believe in you. 556 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, all right, he's got he's 557 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: got coach the seal of approval, so must be a 558 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: special young Yeah. And and I think that's true. Like 559 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: I said, I think we were all on the same 560 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: page on this guy. As far as an organization. You know, 561 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: we all felt strongly about the player. We felt strongly 562 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: about the person. And and that's what I think is 563 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: most encouraging about when you get a player like this 564 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: is you say, hey, how can he fit with us? 565 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: And we identify the ways he can fit with us. 566 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: We have a clear vision of who he can be 567 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: for us and where he can play, and certainly he's 568 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: allowed himself to play in a role with us based 569 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: off of not only his traits but his physical ability. 570 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: And he seems like a guy I'll be able to 571 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: step in outside inside, but I think you know we'll 572 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: see a lot of them inside for us. And so 573 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: let's talk about those two. Amari Cooper, David Bell joining 574 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: some guys that have been productive for you in the past, 575 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: specifically Donovan People's Jones. A lot of turn over in 576 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: her room, but DPJ has been a constant now entering 577 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 1: his third year. Yeah, here's another guy in Donovan People's 578 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: Jones that is everything we want. As far as the person, 579 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he has got tremendous work ethic. He's a 580 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: great professional, he's a great teammate, and he puts the 581 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: team first and everything he does. So it starts with that. 582 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: He's left after the year and he's gone, and he's 583 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: really worked very hard to make improvements in all areas 584 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: of his physical play, which I've seen a difference just 585 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks of working with him, seeing 586 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: him on the field been very impressed with the way 587 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: he's worked, which I didn't expect anything less out of him. 588 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: And certainly the thing about Donovan that's gonna be great 589 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: is he's going to provide a lot of leadership and 590 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: guidance to a young player like David Bell. I mean, 591 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: Donovan was a young player when he came in this league, 592 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: and he learned from some guys that kind of taught 593 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: him along the way. Maybe it wasn't even at the 594 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: receiver position of veteran that grabbed him and said, hey, 595 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: here's how to study, here's how to go about your business. 596 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: That can be really beneficial to use a player. And 597 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: that's what my expectation for Donovan is. With, for example, 598 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: a guy like David Bell. I remember last year we're 599 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: talking about Anthony Schwartz in the preseason, he told him 600 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: be like Donovan, people's jones. Every assignment he was ready 601 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: to go. And he's a guy. Look when the average 602 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: over eleven yards a target for your career in this league, 603 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: you're a productive receiver. And maybe he's gonna earn more 604 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: chances this year, but so far, catch to go up 605 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: every year, yards go up every year, and its evergin 606 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, almost nineteen yards of cat. I mean, when 607 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: you when you get a guy that produces and and 608 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: can gain some yards down the field like Donovan Can, 609 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's real exciting to have him in 610 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: the room and now with some other guys that were 611 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: considering really good route runners. So you've got the good 612 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: route runners he got down in people's jones and we 613 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: have Anthony Schwartz and Anthony Schwartz third round pick a 614 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: year ago can fly track speed. That's not an exaggeration, 615 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: it's a fact. That's what he's gotten. We saw a 616 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: taste of that Week one against Kansas City, and then 617 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: things got a little bit tougher I think as this 618 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: season went on. But so young to the position, I mean, 619 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: it really hasn't been a receiver full time in his 620 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: life really probably before last year, you know, balancing the 621 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: track and all that, maybe one year at Auburn. How's 622 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: he kind of gone through his offseason and what do 623 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: you want to see from him to be able to 624 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: take that next step and and help really take the 625 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: top off the defense for us. Yeah, I think that 626 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: the thing on him is it's a second lap around 627 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: the track for him. Is his sophomore season so our 628 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: expect tatians are high for him this year. I mean 629 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: we want him. And when we say expectations, it's you know, 630 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: can you go about your business as far as your 631 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: work ethic? Uh? Can you bring those traits that you 632 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: have physically all right and be productive on the field. 633 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: And he is working very hard to do that. I 634 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: mean he is. He's very intelligent, he's fast, he's young, 635 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: he's a good person who I think is a team guy. 636 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: And I think this is a big year for him. 637 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: You know, he's gone through all the things that you 638 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: go through in your transition in your first year in 639 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: the NFL, which is sometimes very challenging. So he's gone 640 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: through that journey and now he's staring at the second 641 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: year and I think he's got a different perspective and 642 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: one in which it could be very beneficial to him 643 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: if he allows that to be. If there's one thing 644 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: you would say for the fans when whether it mini 645 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: camp or once we get into training camp, that would 646 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: kind of say, Okay, he's getting it. What would it be? 647 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: What would you want people to be able to see 648 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: from Anthony? I think getting open and catching the ball, 649 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean real we try we try to 650 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: make it trying to make it real simple. And you know, 651 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean I could put don't ever want to put 652 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: a catch total on it. I don't don't ever want 653 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: to put expectations of certain stats and those things. I mean, 654 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: for for him to help us and and for him 655 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: to help us contribute in winning. He just needs to 656 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: get open and catch the ball and obviously we like 657 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: him to to block in the run game, right, but 658 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: without those first two, really you have nothing in a player. 659 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: So we we were really excited about, you know, him 660 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: and his year two. Uh look forward to working with 661 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: him again on the field. He's already done some real 662 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: good things for us in the classroom and transfer to 663 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: that to the field. Here in the first couple of 664 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: weeks of our off season program, alright, a couple of 665 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: guys who have been here at least one on the 666 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: field for us to Marcus Bradley and then Javon Wims, 667 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: who was with us last year on the practice squad. 668 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: What do you see from those two guys? And I 669 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: know you've been a big fan of JA Marcus is Yeah, 670 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: big fan of JA. Marcus Bradley for kind of all 671 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: the things we wanted in a player. He he is. 672 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: You know, he's got just a great uh demeanor about himself. 673 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: He's got good character. But as a player, here's a 674 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: guy that's got some strengths. He's got great body control, 675 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: he catches the ball well. He can play in a 676 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: multiple position role because he studies so hard, and he's 677 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: got great mental ability uh to function within those roles. 678 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: So another guy I'm really excited about. I mean, this 679 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: is you know of a room right now that I'm 680 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: coaching that just doesn't have some guys at the top 681 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: that you're looking at to be competitive. I really see 682 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: the entire room having a chance to be competitive in 683 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: different roles in different ways. And Whims six to a 684 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: little bit different size profile than Whim's is you know, 685 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: a bigger type body. Um that again is working hard. 686 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: He's learning our offense. He hasn't been with us very long, 687 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: so he's kind of learning our system. He's learning, uh, 688 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, how we do things as a Cleveland Brown 689 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: football player. And and I think that he's got again 690 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: he's competitive and got a chance to help us and 691 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: have a role. Jachim Grant, I know he's been brought 692 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: here to be a returner, but also can do some things. 693 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: He put on his highlights in Chicago and even in 694 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: my end right with you and you guys go way back. Uh, 695 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: he just he just looks so fast. He looks so fast. Yeah. 696 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: The first thing when you watch him is he's very explosive. 697 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: He's got exceptional speed. Um and and you know, he's 698 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: had a good career as far as that that returner 699 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: and then having a role on offense, and he's always 700 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: had a role on offense, and that's the same type 701 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: of role we're looking for him to have. It's like, hey, 702 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: the more you can do for us, the more you're 703 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: gonna be able to help us. So we're talking to 704 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: him about, hey, learn, let's learn the whole playbook. Let's 705 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: learn as many positions as you can. Let's see how 706 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: much you can do for us. I mean, obviously we're 707 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: very happy that he's here as our returner because we 708 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: value special teams so much. But at the same time, 709 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: he can really help us in different ways, and right 710 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: now he's working really hard to do that in the 711 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: classroom and on the field. All right, So we round 712 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: out your room and I'm sure they're gonna be additions, 713 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: whether it be undrafted free agents or perhaps free agents 714 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: still being brought in here to flesh this out of 715 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: Michael Woods, who we took later in the draft out 716 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. What did you like about him and what's 717 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: kind of the trait that you're banking on that he 718 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: can have translate here? Yeah, another guy in the draft 719 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: process we were very thorough on in our evaluation. Again, 720 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: our scouting department and Andrew, they did such a great 721 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: job of identifying him to us, and then once they 722 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: did that, we really did a lot of film study 723 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: on him. We went back and you know, he played 724 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: at Arkansas previously, so we really dug down deep into 725 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: his Arkansas play, looked at him there, we had a 726 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: chance to visit with him in person. He had an 727 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: outstanding interview. We were very impressed walking away with a 728 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: person that we thought could really fit. You know, again, 729 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: what we want here is a Cleveland Brown and really 730 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: excited to have him. You know, he's a guy that's 731 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: going to be able to make a contested catch, he 732 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: understands how to run routes. He has played at a 733 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: high level and and really standing conference, so we're really 734 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: excited to have him aboard. Is this like the start 735 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: of the fun time for you, just getting finally getting 736 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: to see the ball in the air, seenior guys catch 737 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit, and know that all right, 738 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: we're slowly but these are the baby steps seas, so 739 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: that we're building the foundation right now. But you're a coach, 740 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: your teacher, as you said, to actually get to see 741 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: them out there and be able to on the grass 742 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: teach and coach and see the start to come. This 743 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: is the best. I mean, this is I was telling 744 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: another one of our coaches today, how awesome is it 745 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: that we're out on the field working with our players, 746 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: getting in the classroom again looking at him in the 747 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: eye and then seeing him developed. Because at the end 748 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: of the day, it's my job to develop the players 749 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: at my position, and I it's my expectation that the 750 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: receivers are going to improve, and you know, to see 751 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: the growth over time is what's really rewarding as a coach, 752 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: you know. And and this is the process that starts 753 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: at the ground up, that we're building the base, building 754 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: the foundation, and it's a blast. I mean, I'm really 755 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: excited to be on the field every day. It beats 756 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: sitting in the office for sure, you know, and I 757 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: just can't wait to kind of continue in this process 758 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: leading up to training camp obviously later in the summer. 759 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: So you always talk to them about when they leave here, right, 760 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: come back better than you left. And you talk about 761 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: certain guys like Donovan, you know, he went out there 762 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: tried to better himself. If they come back and notice 763 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: what you've been doing here in the off season, better 764 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: in yourself coming in here all Jack, let's go well, 765 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: I I mean, I think it's to say that in 766 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: front of the players, you gotta at least go do 767 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: something physically right. So so yeah, looking forward to again, 768 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: looking forward to having these guys around. It's fun, you know, 769 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: and can't wait to just continue. Honestly them sit on 770 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: something with a bar in their shoulders, get up a 771 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: box jump like you do on the Regg coach. It 772 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: is awesome having you here. We're very lucky to have 773 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: you part of this organization and to have you steward 774 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: these guys hopefully into a great season this year. So 775 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 1: thank you for thank you very much, appreciate it. Thanks 776 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 1: to chant o'sha, thanks to Nathan Zigura for their time 777 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: and chann O Shape breaking it down ribs talking through 778 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: everybody on this one in this wide receiver room. Obviously 779 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 1: great stuff on Amari Cooper and how he's leading by example, 780 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: but some great breakdowns of David Bell and that wide 781 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: receiver room. It sounds like a lot of guys have 782 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: put some work in here in the off season as 783 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: we get ready for the season. It's real. It's a 784 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: mixed bag of vets and young guys, and I think 785 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: you could roll into this Sunday and play a game, 786 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: I think, with this group and feel good about it. 787 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the final final makeup 788 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: of this of this room. I think there's a lot 789 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: of free agents still out on the market, so but 790 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: right now, I think you feel pretty good about it 791 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: because I think that that DPJ is in a position 792 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: where he looks like you're number two, uh, and then 793 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: you've got a good competition between Schwartz, David Bell and 794 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: some others there for that kind of number three roll 795 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: in there. And I think that the way it's made up, 796 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: it's not quite the headline making group that you had 797 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, but I think you can 798 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: still get some good production of this, especially and when 799 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: you look at Deshaun Watson's track record, this might be 800 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: one of the better groups he's ever been able to 801 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: play with as well. It's good to say you talk 802 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: about great quarterbacks make everybody else better, and this is 803 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: this could be a prime opportunity for him and this 804 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver room. I thought it was interesting the Donovan 805 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: People's Jones comments from coach O Shay. He's only been 806 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: with him for a couple of weeks since the guys 807 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: have been back, but he's already seen a big difference. 808 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: And now his next tax task for Donovan People's Jones 809 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: is to be a leader and a mentor and mentor 810 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: a guy like David Bell. And interesting because this is 811 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: only dpjs third year in the league. Yeah, and but 812 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: they've got some similar track record in that. I think 813 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: when you're a guy like DPJ obviously he thought he 814 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: was gonna go higher than the sixth round. You got 815 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: a guy like David Bell, who first team All American, 816 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: does everything he's supposed to do, it per do and 817 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: then he falls too late in the third round. So 818 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: I think they've got that same kind of chip on 819 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 1: their shoulder mentality, and also the traits and the ability 820 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: to come in and make an impact right away. So 821 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: I think DPJ is gonna be a good mentor for him. 822 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: And the thing you always heard about DPJ is always 823 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: where you want him to be, where you want to 824 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: be at the at the right time. That's something that 825 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: will get you on the field fast. If if David 826 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: Bell can do that, Anthony Schwartz, the expectations are very 827 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: according to Shadow sha second that he called it the 828 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: second lap around the track here. He even said, this 829 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: is a big year. We have high expectations, Uh, improve 830 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: the traits and and get better, and this is a 831 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: year and I think it starts with with just being healthy. Yeah, 832 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: and Deshaun likes throwing the deep ball to get it 833 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: down the field. And you saw what what Deshaun and 834 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: Will full were able to do with the Texans. You 835 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: wonder if if Schwartz with similar speed skill set, is 836 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: that the kind of role he can have in this offense. 837 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: I think with that speed, you're always going to be 838 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: a factor. I think it's just about getting the most 839 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: on We saw some flashes. I thought he made a 840 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 1: great catch in the Bengals game midway through the season, 841 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: had the touchdown late in the year against Green Bay. 842 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: Just what staying healthy, keeping him on the field, and 843 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: getting the most out of that skill set. Yeah, you 844 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: see your wide receiver room right now, your top eight 845 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, Donovan, People's Jones, David Bell, Anthony Schwartz, Jachim Grant, 846 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 1: JaMarcus Bradley, who Chad O'SHA is very high on. Javon Wims, 847 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: another guy that UH signed late in the year under 848 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: the radar agent. I was gonna say, Chad o shape 849 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: very high on him. And then Michael Woods, the rookie 850 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma. So we'll see if the Browns add 851 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: another body. As you mentioned, there's still a lot of 852 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: big names free agency wise out there, which which is 853 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: very unlike UH past years. But that's the case, and 854 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a few more names get 855 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: dropped around the league here as teams continued. When you 856 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: have this many talented young wide receivers coming in the league, 857 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: that's what that's what's going to cause the veterans to 858 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: still be on the market. I mean, that's that's the 859 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: reality that the tough time to be a veteran when 860 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: there's this much influx of young talent coming in the league. 861 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting with David Bell as we 862 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 1: wrap up the Chad O'shay interview. Scored extremely high on 863 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: every type of test they gave him, everything from meetings 864 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: to workouts to knowing tape and breaking down tape. Clearly 865 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: a guy that everybody in this organization wanted. And as 866 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: he kept falling on day two, and I think I 867 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: think there were people that were clamoring because when the 868 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: Browns traded out of forty four, there were some good 869 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: wide receivers still on the board there, but they got 870 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: the guy that they wanted clearly. Yeah, it's it's in Shire. 871 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean, some guys just don't have a good combine. 872 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: I mean, most notably a former Brown's wide receiver Jervis Landry, 873 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: you have have a good combine. Fell in the draft, 874 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: probably farther than he should have, and clearly outplayed his 875 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: draft draft status as a second round pick. So you know, 876 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: I think if if he's passing their internal tests, that's 877 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: all I need to hear, because sometimes you just don't 878 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: perform at the at the combine and it it hurts 879 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: you on draft day, but ultimately you get in a 880 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: good situation. It looks like Dave Bell found one here. 881 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: All right. So that's a look at the Browns wide 882 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: receiver room again. Thanks to chat O'Shea and Nathan Sigirl 883 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: for their time. The Browns with work to do still 884 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: as they continue to put together that roster. Gribbs and 885 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 1: I know that Kevin Stefanski was on the draft review 886 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: show the other night on the radio network, and you know, 887 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: I think they'd like to finish getting this roster put 888 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: together sooner rather than later. So we'll see what happens. 889 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: But biggest needs still for the Browns here with the 890 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: draft in the rear view mirror. You know, I think 891 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: it's defensive tackle still. I think you've got to load 892 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: up at that position because you've got some You've got 893 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: some guys there, but not not a ton of proven 894 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: ability at that position at this point just yet. I 895 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: still would like to see some some movement at pass 896 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: rusher as well, and then I'll throw tight end in there. 897 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: You didn't draft one. Brought in a former basketball player 898 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: who's a really interesting story in Marcus Santas Silva. So 899 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: you you're addressing that position, but it wouldn't surprise me 900 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: to see maybe more more work done at those three spots. Silva, 901 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: uh I don't think played high school football, did not 902 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: play college, but he was All Conference, All Big twelve 903 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: in basketball. Uh. Quite quite a nice player making the 904 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: transition to football. And we'll see how this all plays out. 905 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: But clearly the Browns saw enough of him from an 906 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: athleticism standpoint and the measurables that it makes sense. And uh, 907 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: it's interesting on some on some boards and whatnot, people 908 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: thinking that he could beend to being a better blocker, 909 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: maybe necessarily than pass catcher. It's interesting. Mean, he's a 910 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: fascinating story to kind of come into. I mean, it's 911 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: a lot of work ahead for him, but clearly there's 912 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: some traits that they liked. And we'll see how he develops. 913 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: You know, and if the Browns, if Jadeveon Clowney comes back, 914 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: that really kind of makes your roster look a lot 915 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: better to helps that helps helps that edge room a lot. 916 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: But you're right, I think defensive tackle uh, and we've 917 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: seen that the last couple of years with this regime 918 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: going out and getting uh an experienced veteran uh down 919 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: the road here to to help that defensive tackle room. 920 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: We've seen them do that the last two years, bringing 921 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: in some bodies. Yeah, there's a few big names out 922 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: there still, so we'll see what where it takes you. 923 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: But I think we've like you said, there's there's clearly 924 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: a philosophy here with with defensive tackles, and a lot 925 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: of it's been addressed in the month of May over 926 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 1: the past couple of years. That's gonna put the draft 927 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: to bed. But we will have a lot of the 928 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: draft picks coming up as rookie Minicamp starts UH next week, 929 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: and I think the rookies are here on Thursday of 930 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: the twelfth, and they will be here for the weekend 931 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: as they get baptized in the National Football League and 932 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 1: the way of doing things. May twelve, next Thursday, Also 933 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: the schedule release will know the Browns preseason and regular 934 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: season opponents, and then obviously rookie Minicamp, and then things 935 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: kind of quiet down. You've got O T A s 936 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: going on, but then nothing huge until mandatory mini camp 937 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: in the middle of June to wrap things up, and 938 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: then we're all back together for the real deal late 939 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: in July with training camp. Thanks to Nathan Tzigura and 940 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: Shadow Shaff for their time, Thank you for watching, Thanks 941 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: for listening. Make sure you like and subscribe today to 942 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: the best podcast available. Wherever you get your podcast. You 943 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: can also check us out on YouTube YouTube dot com 944 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: slash Browns Before I go, by the way, it is 945 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 1: Sinco de Mayo, margarita, Mexican beer. What do you got. 946 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm a big Mexican beer guy. I like it's every 947 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: anytime I can find the opportunity, it's just the most 948 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: it's that's that's when summer starts. This is when the 949 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: Mexican beer starts. That's it's it's refreshing, delicious, big fan 950 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: and that margaritism. Not I'm not I'm not chasing those 951 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: empty galories. And oh yeah, I love the Mitchellottas. Mitchellattas 952 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: like a Jeff chiming in. I like this. I like 953 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: where all this is going. We're gonna wrap it up 954 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: and we're gonna go to celebrate Sanco de Mayo, one 955 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: of my favorite holidays. 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