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Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special preseason episode of college football

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Speaker 1: Game Day Live. I am your host, Thorneistrom, joined as

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Speaker 1: always by the godfather of recruiting, Mike Farrell of Mike

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Speaker 1: Farrell Sports. Today we're going to be talking about Big

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Speaker 1: ten totals and Notre Dame preseason win totals.

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Speaker 2: Mike, how you doing today? Good? Oh, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about football. We're in August. We are almost

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Speaker 2: two preseason football.

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Speaker 3: We're almost there, getting close.

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Speaker 2: We're almost there. We have a lot to get to today,

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Speaker 2: so let's get right to it.

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Speaker 1: The Notre Dame Fighting Irish are first on the docket today.

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Speaker 1: Preseason win total of eight and a half. Mike, what

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Speaker 1: do you think of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish this year?

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Speaker 2: Last year? Really tough season for them.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, over the offseason, Marcus Freeman goes out, gets rid

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Speaker 1: of his quarterback room, brings in mister Sam Hartman. What

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Speaker 1: do you think that does for that team?

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Speaker 2: Ceiling?

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of Notre Dame fans said last year

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Speaker 3: they wouldn't have lost the game against Marshall or Stanford

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Speaker 3: had they had a quarterback. Some of them think they

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have lost the USC or they had a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: So now they have a quarterback. He's the most talented

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Speaker 3: quarterback they've had since Brady Quinn probably, so expectations are high.

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Speaker 3: The schedule is not easy, though, you know Freeman will

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Speaker 3: be better as a second year coach. I think he was.

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Speaker 3: You know, he did good in the Ohio State game

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Speaker 3: in the opener. Then there were some moments of tight

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Speaker 3: miessagains Stanford and Marshall, and those were bad losses. I

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Speaker 3: don't think you're gonna see bad losses. So I don't

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Speaker 3: think you're going to see a Central Michigan loss or

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Speaker 3: anything like that. But this schedule is very tricky to me.

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Speaker 3: Navy's not a problem, Tennessee State's not a problem. Central

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Speaker 3: Michigan shouldn't be a problem. But Man, Ohio State, Duke, Louisville, USC,

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Speaker 3: Pitt and Clemson in a row and then Hartman going

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Speaker 3: to play his team wake for USh shouldn't be an issue.

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Speaker 3: It's tough. I know the line is eight and a half.

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Speaker 3: I think they should go nine and three, but I know,

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Speaker 3: I just think the safest thing is to say under it.

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Speaker 3: Just there's too many potential losses out there. This could

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Speaker 3: be an eight and four season. That that's how I'm

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Speaker 3: seeing it. Even with sama.

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Speaker 2: Oka, I'm going over on Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: And I know I disagree with a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: people I respecting, including yourself. You just got added to

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Speaker 1: the list, but I have to go over on this one.

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Speaker 1: That's how much I respect Apparently Sam Hartman. I really

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Speaker 1: like that kid's game, and you know, now he's working

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Speaker 1: behind this really good offensive line. Notre Dame has skill

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Speaker 1: talent too, obviously the running back room with estimate, they

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Speaker 1: have pretty good wide receiver talent as well, and that

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Speaker 1: defense is good. You know Marcus Freeman. Now you brought

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Speaker 1: up some of the times he stubbed his toll last year,

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Speaker 1: and that's fair enough, but they also kept things close

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Speaker 1: and did pretty well against some good teams on the

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Speaker 1: other side of it. And contextually, last year, you lose

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Speaker 1: your starting quarterback right away. You were down to Drew Pine, who, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry Arizona State for shooting some trades here, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't really have any receiving. He basically had a

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Speaker 1: Every defense knew what they were doing, so it was

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Speaker 1: just sort of tough with that. You had this paint

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that's what made them susceptible to upsets.

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Speaker 1: Now you have Sam Hartman, a guy who has been

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Speaker 1: going to contend with the Michigans and a couple other ones.

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Speaker 2: For that Joe mo Award.

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Speaker 1: My system spit out a nine point six wins for

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They do have those three ridiculously hard games.

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Speaker 1: My system put out one point five wins for Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame over those three games. The other nine games, though,

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Speaker 1: But I like Notre Dame, I like the Irish. I'm

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Speaker 3: They destroyed Clemson last year. You know, you assume the

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Speaker 3: win all the rest. Duke is no joke. There are

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Speaker 3: a good football team Louisville. We'll see how the new

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Speaker 3: And there's just some potential losses here that scare me.

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Speaker 3: So we disagree on this one. I would play the

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Speaker 3: safe bet, go under your year over and we'll see

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Speaker 3: how good Sam Hartman is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just think they're gonna get one win out of

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Speaker 1: those those three toughy and then you know the rest

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Speaker 1: of the In the other nine, I think I think

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Speaker 1: they're running the table. I'm saying Notre Dame is going

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Speaker 1: ten and I'm bullish on Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Mike, I'm bullish Irish Nation, Irish Nation. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame is back this year. I'm sorry, but I

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Speaker 2: really like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, moving to the Big ten now another speaking of bullish,

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Speaker 1: Thor is super bullish on this one. Despite the fact

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Speaker 1: that that Jim Harbaugh was suspended for the four cupcakest

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Speaker 1: games in the history of cupcakes for for the and

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Speaker 1: and for we won't get into the the the.

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Speaker 4: Last last year's first four was the cupcake games.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Comparing the soft the texture of the of the softness

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Speaker 2: It is unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we we we got to talk to something about

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Speaker 1: the non con scheduling at Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It reminded me when I went to undergrad at Kansas

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Speaker 1: and they would like deliberately go for the easiest of

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Speaker 3: Don contest Yukon Hawaii. Who else was in that that

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Speaker 3: mergers road open the season. This is why he could

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Speaker 3: be like, we're gonna split starters. Yeah, because you're playing

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Speaker 3: so maybe it's not four games last year. Then the

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Speaker 3: projected win percentage for these four games for Michigan is

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Speaker 3: ninety nine percent for each game. It's good.

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Speaker 5: Fourth one this year is last year. But on bullish

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Speaker 1: And so this the Wolverines this year win total at

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Speaker 1: of an elevated one for the Wolverines this year. So Mike,

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Speaker 1: you know, moving to the Big ten with the Wolverines

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Speaker 3: I go over. I'm bullish big time on on Michigan.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think this is the best team Harvo's

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Speaker 3: had on paper. The offensive line is going to be,

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Speaker 3: but he should be fine. Donovin Edwards to me, could

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Speaker 3: have a breakout Beijon Robinson type of season. He's that

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Speaker 3: He had the two pick sixes against TCU. Bounce back

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Speaker 3: from that a little bit. He's very very focused. Defense

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Speaker 3: But what else is really a challenge here? I mean

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Speaker 3: the first four games, as we mentioned our cupcakes, Nebraska, Minnesota, Indiana,

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Speaker 3: Michigan State, Purdue, Maryland. None of those teams are going

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Speaker 3: half is a high number. I mean, really, you have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love this roster. Michigan is my pick to

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Speaker 2: win the national title this year.

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Speaker 3: In I don't disagree, I don't disagree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I absolutely love this roster.

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Speaker 3: In ten, well, I play this store. I got Georgia

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Speaker 3: Michigan gets to the championship game. At the very least,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna make the playoff, they're going to get the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and it's hard not to pick those

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Speaker 1: I think Michigan, Yeah, I mean, they're the one team

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Speaker 2: Do it like that.

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Speaker 1: In ten regular season games this year, my system has

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Speaker 2: Sixteen points or better favorites.

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Speaker 1: And then in the other two my system has miss

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Speaker 1: Michigan as three points. Well, the Ohio State game, they

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Speaker 1: have Michigan. My system as Michigan as three point favorites.

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Speaker 1: And then that's at home for Michigan, and then on

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Speaker 1: the road at Penn State, my system has Michigan as

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Speaker 1: three point nine point favorites. That's the twelve games right there.

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Speaker 1: My system has Michigan eleven point one. In terms of

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Speaker 1: the total win projection for the entire season, I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: going over to ten point five. Like I said, I

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Speaker 1: expect them to win the conference, the Big ten. I

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Speaker 1: expect them to win the championship. So definitely going over

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Speaker 1: on Michigan. I agree with everything you said. McCarthy absolutely

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Speaker 1: is a prime NFL prospect. They have the best backfield tandem.

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Speaker 2: In the nation.

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Speaker 1: The receivers, you know, they're okay. It's the one part

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Speaker 1: of the team that you point to where it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit lower. They have the best offensive line

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Speaker 1: in the nation, which is crazy. They've won the last

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Speaker 1: two Joe More Awards and they still have the best

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Speaker 1: offensive line in the nation. Jim Nagy are the Senior

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Speaker 1: Ball a month ago puts out that they have seven

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Speaker 1: guys on the Senior Bowl watch list for this coming class.

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Speaker 1: That's ludicrous in lieu of the fact that they've won

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Speaker 1: the last two drill More Awards and they just sent

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Speaker 1: multiple guys to the NFL Draft this year and they've

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Speaker 1: done they did so in the previous class as well.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely ludicrous that they have seven prospects.

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Speaker 3: For man, you plug and play the Darius Henderson Miles

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Speaker 3: a big deal. It's absolutely super You don't have to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all well said. It's just too much up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the numbers for the first year quarterbacks under Ryan

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Speaker 1: But you know, like there was times where during his

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Speaker 1: He has two amazing running backs, just thoroughbred running backs,

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Speaker 2: What do you think about Penn State?

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Speaker 3: So you know, some people had him as a five

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Speaker 2: Yeah. My number on them is on Penn State is

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Speaker 1: At the nine point five number, I shade them over

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Speaker 1: I really like the defense. Even though they lost Joey

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Speaker 1: like literally as I put them in, and then all

436
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Speaker 1: my colleagues as picks. I'm not a big technology guy,

437
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Speaker 1: but that's just you know, I'm a boomer.

438
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Speaker 2: I guess is Debra always calls me I'm.

439
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 3: An old bopp too.

440
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's awesome, not just for college football, I mean

441
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Speaker 5: for the fantasy NFL fantasy football.

442
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Speaker 3: It's it's a definitely a go to app.

443
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like the NFL guys when they put their

444
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Speaker 1: picks in and I need those ones, you know, like Mike,

445
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: you and I we're the we're the college football pick guys,

446
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 1: right like, but like in the NFL, I don't know

447
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Speaker 1: what I'm doing, so I need like that our NFL

448
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Speaker 1: guys when they put in their pecks, and then I

449
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: need those like live because then I can bet their

450
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Speaker 1: advice because I don't know what I'm doing.

451
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Speaker 2: In the UNFL.

452
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Speaker 3: You just hammered jail and High for his route running today.

453
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Speaker 3: You follow the the guys. You hammer NFL guys like crazy,

454
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 3: But those guys know a little bit more about the

455
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 3: NFL than we do. But you got to understand, all

456
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: those guys in the NFL came from college and they

457
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Speaker 3: all keep in high school following them forever. So I

458
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Speaker 3: still rely on those guys even though I'm supposed to

459
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Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about. So the app is very

460
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Speaker 3: valuable for sure.

461
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Speaker 2: For sure. The the other thing with that app so,

462
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Speaker 2: and this is a really cool thing.

463
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Speaker 1: I actually learned about this on our work trip because

464
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Speaker 1: we have a bunch of people that work behind the

465
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Speaker 1: scenes that like, you know, invented.

466
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Speaker 2: All this stuff or like put all this stuff together.

467
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Speaker 1: But you can sync the app to your sports book,

468
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Speaker 1: so I like it tracks all this different stuff. It

469
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Speaker 1: tracks your bets across all sportsbooks into one spots. You

470
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Speaker 1: can track all your data and stuff like that. You'll

471
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Speaker 1: get insights and personalized recommendation for props. There's another really

472
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Speaker 1: cool feature of it, game picks and more tailored to

473
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Speaker 1: your interests. And then to enjoy all the benefits of

474
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Speaker 1: the sportsbook, saying, download the Sportsbook app by visiting Bettingpros

475
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Speaker 1: dot com, slash app, or search Betting Pros in the

476
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Speaker 1: app store. So definitely do that today, all right, Mike,

477
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Speaker 1: moving on to the next team in the Big Ten.

478
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Speaker 1: The Wisconsin Badgers, very interesting team, you know, obviously the

479
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Speaker 1: Luke fickleheiher That was sort of shocking to me. He

480
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: had stayed at Cincinnati after the college football Berth and

481
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Speaker 1: every football playoff berth and everything like that. Then they're

482
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Speaker 1: moving up into the Big twelve and then he he

483
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Speaker 1: books it for Wisconsin. You know, it's like, you know,

484
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: was at a I would have thought he could have

485
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Speaker 1: got I mean, sorry to Wisconsin, but you know, could

486
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Speaker 1: have gotten a bigger job after that.

487
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Speaker 3: I remember he was linked with USC there was some

488
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Speaker 3: other jobs that he was linked with that were bigger.

489
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Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, he wants to stay in the

490
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Speaker 3: Big Ten, but just get out of Ohio. This guy coached,

491
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Speaker 3: he played in high school in Ohio, he coached, he

492
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Speaker 3: played college in Ohio, he coached in Ohio. Maybe he

493
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Speaker 3: just wanted to get out of Ohio and just finally

494
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Speaker 3: just chose Wisconsin at this place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he so it wasn't the only interesting thing.

496
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Speaker 1: So Wisconsin goes and gets him. And then in one

497
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Speaker 1: of the more fascinating, probably the most fascinating coordinator higher

498
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Speaker 1: the entire cycle, stunning one, he goes and steals Phil

499
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Speaker 1: Longo from Mac Brown. Longo leaves the opportunity to coach

500
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Speaker 1: Drake May for his last season and then just goes

501
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Speaker 1: to Wisconsin, a school that has run this ground and

502
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Speaker 1: pound offense for the last.

503
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Speaker 2: What thirty years? Forty years?

504
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Speaker 1: Like so this is going to be really interesting. The

505
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Speaker 1: Badgers have a win total set at eight and a

506
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Speaker 1: half this year. Mike, what do you think of the

507
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Speaker 1: Badgers this far?

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Speaker 3: I'm going over This schedule is so easy other than

509
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Speaker 3: Ohio State at the game and NAT's a camp ran

510
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Speaker 3: on and like I said, that could be tricky for

511
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Speaker 3: Ohio State, even if you project them to lose to

512
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Speaker 3: High of State, I mean Buffalo, Washington State, Georgia Southern.

513
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Speaker 3: To start the season at Purdue. They should handle Purdue. Produce,

514
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Speaker 3: got a new coach. We'll get to them, might think

515
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: down the line here, Rutgers is awful. I know Iowa

516
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: is going to be a different game. Iowa's defense is tremendous.

517
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Speaker 3: They can hang with anybody. I still don't believe in

518
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Speaker 3: their offense at all. And I believe in Phil Longo,

519
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: I believe in Mordecai. I think Brayleen Allen's gonna be better.

520
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: The running back situation at UNC got overlooked as a

521
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Speaker 3: Sam Hall and Drake May. He was putting together, you know,

522
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Speaker 3: really good seasons for his running backs, safe for one

523
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Speaker 3: year and putting guys in the NFL. So I give

524
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Speaker 3: them the nod there. At Illinois, I'm still not as bullish.

525
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Speaker 3: I think Illinois was kind of a flute last season. Indiana,

526
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Speaker 3: Northwestern Nebraska, Minnesota. I mean, I'm not saying eleven to one,

527
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Speaker 3: but I'm saying nine to three, So give me the over.

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00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta go over on this too. And it's

529
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Speaker 1: for all the reasons you stated that the schedule, you know,

530
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Speaker 1: like you know, on the one hand, I am trumpidacious

531
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Speaker 1: about teams that make sort of precipitous scheme changes like

532
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Speaker 1: this and one offseason. And but on the other hand,

533
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Speaker 1: they brought in guys from the portal that have played

534
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Speaker 1: in similar systems. You mentioned Mordecai and stuff like that.

535
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Speaker 1: That is wages some of the concerns. Another thing that

536
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Speaker 1: that assuages it is not only the soft schedule, but

537
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Speaker 1: particularly soft at the beginning. Some of your your harder

538
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: opponents are stacked at the end, so you have like

539
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Speaker 1: it's like the runway for the plane where you don't

540
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Speaker 1: have to take off until later. So I think by

541
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Speaker 1: the time they get into November, you're you know, you're,

542
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be way more familiar with that system and

543
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Speaker 1: whatnot because of that easy schedule. My system has a

544
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Speaker 1: nine point six wins for Wisconsin. My system has way

545
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Speaker 1: over Yeah, I mean, like my system had Wisconsin as

546
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Speaker 1: like nine point or more favorite and the majority of

547
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Speaker 1: these games and favorite in every game. But I think,

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Speaker 1: just like a couple uh or one. I think if

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Speaker 1: I'm it's not.

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Speaker 3: Fair Ohio State, I don't see another team they wouldn't

551
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Speaker 3: be favored.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like and and and to be fair at double

553
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Speaker 1: digit dog against Ohio State, I was squinning because I

554
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Speaker 1: was like, is that right?

555
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: But I I that that is right.

556
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Speaker 3: Well, so Ohio States if you and we're going to

557
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Speaker 3: get to this as we get to the podcast throughout

558
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Speaker 3: the year, but Ohio State is going to have a

559
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Speaker 3: very high inflationary point spread favor over some teams that

560
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Speaker 3: they shouldn't And this is one of those games. Like

561
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Speaker 3: I said, it follows the Penn State game. It's on

562
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: the road, you know, double digit We'll see if that

563
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: drops below. But that doesn't make a lot of sense.

564
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Speaker 3: But the only real game here. You know that they

565
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Speaker 3: maybe you know, and and they're at home Iowa, and

566
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Speaker 3: we're going to get to them next because you don't

567
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: know what to expect from Iowa. You know that they've

568
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Speaker 3: got a new quarterback, they've they brought in some offensive weapons.

569
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Speaker 3: But I'd still take Wisconsin in every game about Ohio

570
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Speaker 3: state as far as the points spread.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and we'll we'll we'll hit Iowa quick here

572
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Speaker 1: because I know you got to get out of here

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Speaker 1: in a second.

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Speaker 2: So well, we'll hit Iowa quick and then we'll we'll hit.

575
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Speaker 1: Some of the unders that we're going in rapid fire

576
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Speaker 1: with with the hot guys. We have a Vegas win

577
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Speaker 1: total that is down to seven and a half. Now,

578
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Speaker 1: there there's some questions around the Hawkeye program, uh with

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Speaker 1: you know, around both the the programs in Iowa. In

580
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Speaker 1: the state of Iowa. The Hunter Decker's story dropped a

581
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Speaker 1: couple of days ago. There's there's reports that there could

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Speaker 1: be more guys in the Iowa state program that have

583
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Speaker 1: legal woes because of the sports gambling thing. That there's

584
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Speaker 1: been an Iowa kicker that has already been embroiled in

585
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Speaker 1: this is there gonna be any other guys in the

586
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Speaker 1: Iowa program. So that's that stuff is sort of swirling

587
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: around right now. But we don't know of any other guy,

588
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, that that's involved with that, you know as

589
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: of now whatnot. So that's that's you know, as of

590
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Speaker 1: early August is where we're sort of.

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Speaker 2: Talking about that, uh, you know, in the moment.

592
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Speaker 1: But Iowa does have nine starters returning on offense, seven

593
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Speaker 1: on defense, with a win total, like I said, seven

594
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Speaker 1: and a half, Mike, what do you think of the howtkeys?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Kirk Farnce is eight and four every year.

596
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you know Iowa better than I do. I

597
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: know that's just sort of saying things out loud, but

598
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Speaker 3: from a twenty thousand foot view, Iowa is the perfect

599
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Speaker 3: eight and four football team. Their defense will keep them

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Speaker 3: in everything, their offense will keep them from winning certain

601
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Speaker 3: games they should. This is just who they are. They're

602
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Speaker 3: an eight win football team. So if you put them

603
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Speaker 3: any year under Kirk ference under eight, I'm taking the over.

604
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: You put them at eight point five, I'm taking the under.

605
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Speaker 3: So seven point five, I'm taking the over.

606
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Speaker 2: I gotta go.

607
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: I gotta go over as well, the defense is going

608
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: to be a little down. Obviously, they lost a whole

609
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: bunch of guys in the NFL draft there, but they

610
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: never fell outside of the top twenty with regards to that,

611
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Speaker 1: and the offense should be way up this year.

612
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Speaker 2: Brian farrens now.

613
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Speaker 1: Has the contractual incident to go faster on offense. Plus,

614
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Speaker 1: they brought in a whole bunch of guys there, Cave Magan, Mara,

615
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Speaker 1: Eric All. They brought in the Ohio State receiver who

616
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Speaker 1: I think is the highest rated receiver that farre and

617
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Speaker 1: Zever signed. Caleb Johnson comes back. All five offensive lineman

618
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Speaker 1: starters come back, et cetera, et.

619
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Speaker 2: Cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully there's not a shoe dropping on Iowa with regards

621
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Speaker 1: to all that stuff swirling in the ether. But barring that,

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Speaker 1: I think they're going over that seven and a half number. Mike,

623
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Speaker 1: let's go rapid fire on some of these unders. It

624
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Speaker 1: sounds like we've been going over on a lot, but

625
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Speaker 1: we do have a lot of unders, or at least

626
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Speaker 1: I do. In this conference. I actually have four of them.

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Speaker 2: Mike.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a Poulprie here, and I'll give

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Speaker 1: you all of my my unders, Michigan State. Their total

630
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Speaker 1: is five and a half. My systems total is five.

631
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Speaker 1: So I go under on that one. Purdue vegas total

632
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: is five and a half. My systems total is four

633
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Speaker 1: point six. I go under on that one. Of course, Indiana,

634
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Speaker 1: the vegas total is four. My systems total is two

635
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Speaker 1: point eight. I hate that team, and I think Tom

636
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Speaker 1: Allen is getting the I think he's gonna walk the

637
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: plank in October and then per I'm sorry, Northwestern. I

638
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: was lucky enough to get this one at three and

639
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: a half. You can't get that anymore. It's three now.

640
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: My system's total on them is two point five. But

641
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: I think I'd probably still go under on that because

642
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't see any chance to get to four wins

643
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Speaker 1: any of those that you want to talk about, just

644
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: quick before I.

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Speaker 3: Can let you go, say you know, five and seven.

646
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Speaker 3: I agree with you on that. So that's under five

647
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: point five. Indiana three and nine, that's well under four.

648
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: It should be three and a half. They're not that good.

649
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: I've been doing these positional breakdowns, you know, of each

650
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: unit in the Big ten, and Indiana is always last,

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Speaker 3: or if they're not last, Northwestern's last, they just don't

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Speaker 3: have a good roster. They don't have a lot of

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Speaker 3: talent on that football team. Northwestern is just in shambles

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00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: and dismay and they're never getting above that three. So

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Speaker 3: I do the under there perdue. And the only reason

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Speaker 3: I say Purdue I know he's a new head coach.

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Speaker 3: I know there's some question as to whether he's ready

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Speaker 3: or not. I like the new offense. I like Hudson

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Speaker 3: Card in that new offense. I'm very high on Hudson

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Speaker 3: Card compared to other people. I like what I saw

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Speaker 3: from him at Texas. I like what I saw from

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Speaker 3: him at a high school as a kid who really

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Speaker 3: wasn't a pure quarterback, as an athletic guy, you know,

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Speaker 3: similar to Tannehill who developed into a quarterback but still

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Speaker 3: has that athleticism of a different position player, you know.

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Speaker 3: I like Devin maccabee as a running back. I like

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Speaker 3: their offensive line. It's okay, they're not gonna world beat,

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Speaker 3: But to me, you know, if you're talking about five

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Speaker 3: and a half, I think this is a six and

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Speaker 3: six football team. So I would go over and Purdue

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Speaker 3: under on all the others.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, guys, that's all the time. We have for today.

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Speaker 1: For Mike Farrell, I am Thorne Eischrom. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week as we discussed the win totals for two

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Speaker 1: more Power five conferences