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Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know from house stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Clark, that continuously, endlessly ill Josh Clark reminiscent of

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Speaker 1: two thousand Tennish nine. What's craziest, dude? I take such

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Speaker 1: good care of myself though I drink so much juice,

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Speaker 1: like fresh juice. You mean I juice almost every day. Well,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you're in penetrable to sickness and viruses.

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Speaker 1: I know I don't smoke cigarettes at all. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean you can't get a virus. Um. No, it should,

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Speaker 1: it should. I am like a fortress here, man. I

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Speaker 1: exercise a lot. I like I spray lice all in

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Speaker 1: my face three times a day. That's probably what did it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's lurksome. I know. I feel bad for

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Speaker 1: you anyway, that's me. Chuck's fine. This is Charles W.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant that you did across from me. He's totally fine.

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Speaker 1: That is a biddle. And something I noticed about Chuck

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Speaker 1: today was a little stirring. Chuck is the spinning image

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Speaker 1: for Tony Stark. Please do you look exactly like Tony Stark?

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Speaker 1: Like Robert Downey Jr. No, you do. You've got the

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Speaker 1: hair like eight Robert Downey you have. You've got the hair,

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Speaker 1: you have the facial hair, You've got them, the glowing chest,

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Speaker 1: you have the whole thing going on. All right For

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Speaker 1: the uninitiated, UM, Tony Stark is iron Man. He's a

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Speaker 1: billionaire industrialist, iron man, philanthropist. Yeah, and that was clearly

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Speaker 1: just said to introduce our topic. That is not true.

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Speaker 1: I patted you on the shoulder and reminded you that

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Speaker 1: you looked like Tony Stark before we were ever recording. Alright,

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Speaker 1: but we are talking about exoskeletons, which is the Iron

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Speaker 1: Man suit for all practical purposes, is an exo skeleton? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because one thing I learned reading this article is that

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Speaker 1: an exo skeleton is also known as a wearable robot,

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Speaker 1: which falls under the category of human augmentation. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: and one of the Japanese versions of that, the how

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Speaker 1: one that we're going to talk about. I saw some

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Speaker 1: video today that they had one that was in the

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Speaker 1: color of the Iron Man suit. Is that right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course they're going to do that at some point, sure,

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Speaker 1: but I well, did you see the one on the

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Speaker 1: on the page zero of this article. It's awesome. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's like an army exo skeleton and next

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Speaker 1: to it's as future soldier and there's a little there's

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Speaker 1: nice track lighting above it. For some reason, play more

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Speaker 1: with claymore. Jeez, that was grim. Um well okay, sorry

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Speaker 1: but still grim. Okay. Um, yeah, I saw some exo

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Speaker 1: skeleton videos too that we're pretty awesome. It's pretty amazing

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Speaker 1: where we're at right now. Yeah, because this is this

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Speaker 1: is not new, but it turns out the U. S Military,

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Speaker 1: the Pentagon has been like, give us an exo skeleton,

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Speaker 1: we want one bad. It's like the six these and

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Speaker 1: pretty much NonStop. People have been trying to do this

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Speaker 1: and we're finally getting to the point now where they're

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Speaker 1: becoming viable. So it's awesome. It is awesome. So, um,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the history of this. Like we're saying,

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Speaker 1: an exoskeleton is a wearable robot um it's also human augmentation.

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Speaker 1: But you can't confuse it for armor because armor is

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Speaker 1: not really augmenting anything. It's protecting. Although an exoskeleton would

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Speaker 1: um customarily be provide some sort of protection like armor,

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Speaker 1: there's a distinction between the two. Yeah, although these that

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Speaker 1: it's coming though, yeah sure, yeah these other than protecting

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Speaker 1: its own systems, right yeah, but yeah, I guess if

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Speaker 1: your arm happens to be behind that, it's protecting it

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Speaker 1: as well. It's a win win. So, like I was saying,

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Speaker 1: let's um, this has been around for a little while,

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Speaker 1: this idea or the Pentagon's quest for this, but um

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bondser and Patrick Kiger point out that this idea

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Speaker 1: goes back to like the nineteenth century. Um, have you

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Speaker 1: heard of the steam man on the prairies of the Prairie? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: looks like a robot WC. Fields, it does. It looks

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Speaker 1: like that might have been the or actually that was PREWC. Fields.

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Speaker 1: But um, yeah, it's a big It was a book.

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Speaker 1: It was a little Dime Dime Store novel in eighteen

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Speaker 1: on Project Guttenberg. Cool. Yeah, not to check that out.

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Speaker 1: So I'm doing great work Steve Gutenberg these days. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's killing a project. I mean, who would have thought that,

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Speaker 1: Like post Police Academy, he would dedicate himself to something

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Speaker 1: for serious. Uh So after that, let's flash forward a

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Speaker 1: I wonder if like this was and this inspired Iron Man.

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Speaker 1: a couple of proposals for the wear wearable robots and uh.

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Speaker 1: This Pentagon call for exoskeletons set off like a fervor.

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Speaker 1: So uh. The DARPA was apparently well aware that this

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Speaker 1: Exoskeletons for Human Performance Augmentation, which doesn't spell anything cool. No,

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Speaker 1: they kind of dropped the ball there, um. And they

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Speaker 1: wanted something that would accomplish five things. They had a directive.

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Speaker 1: They wanted something that would, uh allow just a regular

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Speaker 1: Man like a lot of it's kind of boring. It's

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Speaker 1: Their suit weighs about fifty five pounds, which is like,

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Speaker 1: I think this is the XOS is its two yeah,

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Speaker 1: can run and that's pretty impressive. I think it's an

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Speaker 1: it's good enough, especially if the thing can run. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because this thing is running for you. You're moving, but

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Speaker 1: you're just barely moving and you're not going to get

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Speaker 1: fatigued at running ten miles an hour. And I can imagine,

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Speaker 1: like you can cover some ground in ten miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: I think about this. You can cover ten miles in

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Speaker 1: one single hour. That's straight. That's true. That's a lot,

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Speaker 1: that's very true. Uh. Eventually they're gonna hook GPS systems

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Speaker 1: up to this. Um it says one of the uses

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Speaker 1: for soldiers would be to obtain info about approaching terrain.

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Speaker 1: So I guess they could send him out ahead or whatever.

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Speaker 1: My friend, have you seen Predator? Yeah, the first one.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that that's not going to be inserted

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Speaker 1: into this. This whole technology. The thermal thermal Yeah, thermal imaging.

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Speaker 1: So you're just running along ten miles an hour and

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Speaker 1: you have been for twenty straight hours, and you're running

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Speaker 1: through say the desert, and you see everything thermally you're fine.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be just fine. Yeah, that's a good point,

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Speaker 1: especially if you can jump really high, uh, really really high. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then they're also working on some uh some computerized

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Speaker 1: fabric that they would wear that would like monitor all

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Speaker 1: your systems. So I guess the point there is it

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Speaker 1: systems now, but it probably too bulky, So you want

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Speaker 1: they're going, You're going to wear the computer as you

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Speaker 1: wear the robot. Pretty amazing. Yeah, And what I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're talking like we're not very far off from this

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Speaker 1: ten fifteen years maybe, Yeah. And it's not all soldiers,

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Speaker 1: like we said, they're using it a lot of the

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Speaker 1: researches for people with spinal injuries and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: So pacifists can get on board too, exactly rich pacifists. Um. Also,

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Speaker 1: I want to say, like I came across a really

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Speaker 1: cool website called cybernetic zoo dot com. And if you're

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Speaker 1: into like old timey popular sign and drawings of stuff

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Speaker 1: like this school stuff this covered up in it, so

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Speaker 1: I would recommend checking that out. You've got anything else

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Speaker 1: on next to skeletons, I want one. That's what I

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Speaker 1: got just give it a few years. Man, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get you one that looks like W. C. Fields, okay,

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Speaker 1: and the Man on the Prairie. It looked like a

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Speaker 1: cross between W. C. Fields if w C. Fields mated

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Speaker 1: with the Jetsins Robot made. This is what this thing

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Speaker 1: would look like. Roxy Rosie, Rosie, I think so, I

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Speaker 1: think Rosie. Uh. Okay. If you want to learn more

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Speaker 1: about Exo skeletons, you can type it into the search

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Speaker 1: bar at how stuffworks dot com and it'll bring up

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Speaker 1: this awesome marketcle to check it out, I said, search bar,

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Speaker 1: this your mail time is mat Uh. This one's kind

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Speaker 1: of a downer, but I feel like we should read

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Speaker 1: it because it's, you know, you need to get the

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Speaker 1: stuff out there. I'm gonna call it abusive grandparents. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: I saw this. Yeah. We we sort of made some

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Speaker 1: jokes in our time travel cast about the grandfather paradox,

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Speaker 1: and like, are the abusive grandparents because they're also sweet?

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Speaker 1: And there are, of course there are. It's very sad.

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Speaker 1: I think we knew that. Yeah. Hey, guys, today I

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Speaker 1: was listening to the podcast and you brought up abuse

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Speaker 1: of grandparents. You both sounded like it was a tough

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Speaker 1: concept to swallow, and I agree it is that being said,

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Speaker 1: I'm writing you to say that, yes, sadly, there are

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Speaker 1: abuse of grandparents. I was raised from the age of

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Speaker 1: five by my maternal grandmother, who was physically, mentally and

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Speaker 1: emotionally abusive most of my life. She was abusive to

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Speaker 1: every child who ever came to her house, her children, me,

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Speaker 1: her nieces and nephews. She herself was heavily abused as

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Speaker 1: a child by her mother and father that went on

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Speaker 1: to be married twice to abuse of husbands. Unfortunately, she

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Speaker 1: wasn't strong enough to break the cycle, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: she encouraged my own mother, her daughter, to hit me.

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Speaker 1: She kicked me out often, and at the age of twelve,

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Speaker 1: I was sent to live with my dead beat father

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Speaker 1: and his wife for a summer. At fourteen, she kicked

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Speaker 1: me out to go live with my mother and her husband.

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Speaker 1: I lived there for a few years, then back to

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Speaker 1: my grandmother because her home was close from my school.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks before my eighteenth birthday, she instructed my mother

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Speaker 1: to beat me because I stayed home from school to

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Speaker 1: go to the doctor for tonsilitis. I ran away that

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Speaker 1: day and never went back. I moved in with my

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Speaker 1: now husband and his parents, where I lived through the

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Speaker 1: rest of my high school, senior year in college. It

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Speaker 1: has been ten plus years and I have no contact

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Speaker 1: with that grandmother. I've been in therapy for about four

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Speaker 1: of those years. And uh so I just wanted to say, yes,

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Speaker 1: there are abus of grandparents. Um. And in fact, knew

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Speaker 1: of another girl at my age who was also being

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Speaker 1: raised by interviews of grandmother, and that is Amanda in

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. And I wrote her and she said that

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Speaker 1: she has a nine month old girl and she is

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Speaker 1: going to be the first one in the family to

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Speaker 1: break this cycle of abuse. Yeah. So sat all the

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Speaker 1: way around the grandmother that was abused and then had

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Speaker 1: abuse of husbands and then took that out on her

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Speaker 1: grandkids and nephews and daughters. And it's just the cycle

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Speaker 1: of abuses horrific and it's up to you to break it. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much, Amanda in North Carolina. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: the candor. That's awesome. I agreed, and congratulations to break

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Speaker 1: into cycle. Um, well, let's see if you have a

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Speaker 1: story that you want to share with us. When we

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Speaker 1: were flipped with something we shouldn't have been we'd like

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Speaker 1: to hear about it. Um. You can tweet to us

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Speaker 1: at s y s K podcast. You can send us

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Speaker 1: a Facebook dot com slash stuff you should know message

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Speaker 1: post on our wall there that was a clumsy way

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Speaker 1: to quit it. You can also send us a regular

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Speaker 1: old email at stuff podcast at Discovery dot com. For

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Speaker 1: more on this and thousands of other topics, is it

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