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Speaker 1: So that is the committee got from them. Actually today

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Speaker 1: Many many, many generations over, although you only get to

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Speaker 1: All right, we are back. Let's do some more news.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the Rams. I mentioned it. He listen.

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is back. Sean mcvayh is back. But the

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Speaker 1: Rams are going in a different direction, or they're changing

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Speaker 1: gears at the very least. Let's go down a couple

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Speaker 1: moves that they're either making or are planning or hoping

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Speaker 1: to make. The Rams are expected to release Edge Russia

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Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd, move that would clear some cap space. Floyd

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Speaker 1: was a key member of their championship team. They also

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Speaker 1: are looking to get rid of Alan Robinson off their

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Speaker 1: roster after what was a bit of a disastrous one

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Speaker 1: year twenty twenty two season for Allen Robinson, in which

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Speaker 1: he came in with a ton of hype. We interviewed

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Speaker 1: h remember we interviewed him a training camp and everything

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Speaker 1: seemed to be hunky dory. But it was a really

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Speaker 1: rough season for Robinson and they have given him permission

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Speaker 1: to seek a trade Greggy with Robinson. Does this connect

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Speaker 1: to the fact that it's not a great free agent

447
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: market and the Ramsayn opportunity here to get rid of

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Speaker 1: this guy and offload some of this money. I just

449
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Speaker 1: don't think they want him on the team, and so yes,

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Speaker 1: I think they're just hoping someone will pay let's say

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Speaker 1: five million dollars of his fifteen million dollars. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're they're taking the l. They're accepting the LL. He

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Speaker 1: has fifteen million guaranteed. Did you say that, Heaton? That's

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Speaker 1: crazy to me that he has fifteen million guaranteed and

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Speaker 1: they're willing to It's crazy now, But remember last summer

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Speaker 1: when almost everyone was universally of the opinion this is

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Speaker 1: a perfect match, and I think it was a bad deal.

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Speaker 1: I think it's crazy that they have fifteen guaranteed now

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Speaker 1: and that they're just saying, we'll take the l. What's

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Speaker 1: the best we can get. We know we're not really

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Speaker 1: going to get a pick for him. We'll get like

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Speaker 1: a late round pick, swap like a sixth for a seventh,

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Speaker 1: just so it saves us money. And we're hoping you

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Speaker 1: take let's say half of that money off the books,

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Speaker 1: will take that as a win and we'll save some

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Speaker 1: cap space. Yeah. I mean as of now, he's also

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Speaker 1: got a twenty six million dollar price tag and deadcap money.

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Speaker 1: So I think the Rams are that's exactly right. They

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Speaker 1: got to move on from this. Jalen Ramsey is trade

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Speaker 1: bait right now. It's like this team to me, like

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Speaker 1: is basically doubling down on what happened last season in

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Speaker 1: terms of the most disappointing follow up to the previous year.

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Speaker 1: I mean they are this is Rams team looks entirely different.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay a couple

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Speaker 1: months ago, we want to do this together. I'm committed

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Speaker 1: to Sean McVeagh. I want to stick around as quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If you're Matthew Stafford and they have a lot of

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Speaker 1: work to do on their offensive line, you're taking away

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Speaker 1: Alan Robinson, who was a failure last year to begin with,

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Speaker 1: and it looked like he didn't want to play in

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Speaker 1: Chicago the year before that. I mean, the Rams are

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Speaker 1: falling apart before your eyes. How do you sell this

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Speaker 1: to Stafford? As hang around here? This makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense for you after any dangerously injury plagued twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two. That's why they're a tough team to figure

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Speaker 1: out and why I'm wondering if there's just more to

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Speaker 1: come here about how they're gonna play their off season,

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Speaker 1: Because yes, if Floyd's gone Robinson, if they dump him,

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Speaker 1: and then Jalen Ramsey is just being traded, which sounds

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Speaker 1: like it's going to happen. Wagner gun Wagner Gune recalled

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Speaker 1: Wagner's gone. It's like, what are they What are they

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Speaker 1: trying to do with this team? Um? Are they just

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Speaker 1: looking to be competitive this year? Or are they going

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Speaker 1: to do something more radical? We I think they're trying

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Speaker 1: to take the pain now and set up for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. The Floyd moved surprised me more because he's

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Speaker 1: had nine sacks in each of the last three years.

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Speaker 1: You're still like a decent player. If they make him

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Speaker 1: a post June first cut, they do open up fifteen

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Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space, They're they're in trouble cap

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Speaker 1: space wise, And I'm trying to explain this. I told

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Speaker 1: Alis about these moves on the way to school today.

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Speaker 1: What's her head? She wasn't happy. She's like, I like

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00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: Floyd Robinson with herself Robinson all season in the living room.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Robinson was a bottle. She also took him

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Speaker 1: on her fantasy team, so that was a disaster. Yeah, Wagner,

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00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: she just couldn't understand Wagner and like, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: like explain, well, they're like there's a salary cap and

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Speaker 1: like if you're trying to set up maybe for twenty

510
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Speaker 1: twenty four and trying to explain this to like She's like,

511
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: but that was like he was one of their better plays.

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Speaker 1: There's not really a good answer for it. And then

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Speaker 1: the heartbreaking moment was well, as long as they're not

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Speaker 1: trying to get rid of Jalen Ramsey And I was like,

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Speaker 1: well that, um, I mean she has that happen. She

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Speaker 1: is the same sort of pressing questions that any guy

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Speaker 1: in a tavern. That's what I mean. It's like there

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Speaker 1: actually isn't a real explanation, a real explanation that like

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Speaker 1: makes it easier, Um, I just indulge me. So if there,

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Speaker 1: if this is kind of like a reset year, does

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Speaker 1: that mean they're expecting to be back and ready to

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Speaker 1: contend as soon as next season? In which case, okay,

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Speaker 1: then Matthew Stafford at age thirty six. Okay, you can

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Speaker 1: talk yourself into if his body holds up, Aaron Donald,

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00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: you probably you know, he'll probably retire before you even

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Speaker 1: entertain the idea of answering a phone call about him.

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Speaker 1: I just seems a little bit like I think it's

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Speaker 1: everything's feels malleable, where I think a couple of months

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Speaker 1: ago it is like, of course, Matthew Stafford's coming back.

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00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: I still feel, of course, But I think that's more

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Speaker 1: of just a personal thing that I just don't think

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00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: he'd want to and I think they feel like they

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Speaker 1: owe it to him. He's a super Bowl winning quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And also the financials of it are seemingly impossible to

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Speaker 1: get rid of him, just the way they signed his country.

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Speaker 1: I guess you could always rework it if he was

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Speaker 1: really willing. I mean, like the cap hit on a

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Speaker 1: trade would be would end their lives. They couldn't eat,

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Speaker 1: they would have to change everything around. I think he's there.

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Speaker 1: I struggle with the they owe it to him angle,

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Speaker 1: where they're taking their biggest names and throwing them into

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Speaker 1: the mist. Right, what are they owing him like that?

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Speaker 1: In their mind, they're probably like if we get lean

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Speaker 1: and mean. Can we still be competitive, lean and mean

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Speaker 1: this year without these guys like they probably think they

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00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: can be, and then they're setting up to be they

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00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: played last year without half these guys to begin with,

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Speaker 1: I mean trade Stafford and signed Gino. Let's just get crazy,

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00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: all right. Um. Josh Jacobs, the Raider they made, you

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Speaker 1: can't kind of spin it any other way. A financial

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00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: mistake when they chose not to pick up his rookie

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Speaker 1: fifth year option, because now they've put the tag on him,

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00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: which is worth more money than what his final rookie

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00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: year deal would have been. So Josh Jacobs coming off

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Speaker 1: a year in which he led the league in rushing,

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Speaker 1: it was just a stud all season long back with

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Speaker 1: the Raiders on at least a one year deal. See

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Speaker 1: if they get anything done before the deadline. Also, Tony Pollard,

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Speaker 1: running back for the Cowboys, who had a breakout season

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Speaker 1: last year, unfortunately suffered that leg injury in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but he will be tagged as well. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: that leads to anything. And that includes Zeke Elliott maybe

563
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: disappearing into the mist himself in Dallas. So the franchise

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Speaker 1: tag deadline is on Tuesday. So this is really the

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00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: last opportunity now for these teams to get their house

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Speaker 1: in order. On this front. Running backs really get boned

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Speaker 1: financially compared to other positions. It's not a breaking news,

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00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: but the tag is kind of part of it. Like

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Speaker 1: you can look at a guy like Jacobs, because I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about this when you think about bees On Robinson

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Speaker 1: and the upcoming draft classes, like you can get him

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Speaker 1: for five years including the fifth year option if and

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Speaker 1: then you get him on the tag. The tag this

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Speaker 1: year is only ten million dollars for running back, So

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Speaker 1: a one year ten million dollars to me, that's not

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Speaker 1: much money that because you're not paying it into the

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Speaker 1: future for all these other positions. It's like guaranteed, you

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Speaker 1: just get him for one more year. At ten, you're

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Speaker 1: getting the very best of Josh Jacobs, You're getting hopefully

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Speaker 1: the best of Pollard and then you say goodbye. You

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Speaker 1: kind of get the best years of their lives in

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Speaker 1: the first five or six years of their career and

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Speaker 1: they don't ever get that long term. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's if you're the Raiders or if you're a

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Speaker 1: Raiders fan, before you hand big money to Josh Jacobs, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's been hot and cold his whole career.

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00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: He was all hot last season, but is that who

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Speaker 1: he is for the next three four years? Like I'd

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Speaker 1: much rather tag him. If I were the Raiders where

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Speaker 1: you sitting in the draft, you could take be John

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00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: Robinson who is getting camp to like Ladany and Tomlinson.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if this is I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to do it, eliminate that for the road. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to do it because I think they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to go quarterback becaus at the situation they put themselves in.

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Speaker 1: But I don't mind getting Josh Jacobs for a one

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00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: more year, find out who he really is, and then

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Speaker 1: go from there. Your eyes really raised when I said

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Speaker 1: this is a good number. I mean, I think that's

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Speaker 1: a good number for Tony. I'm looking at the history

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Speaker 1: of the recent history of the franchise tag it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be a surprise. Besides kickers and punters running back as

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00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: the lowest number at ten million, this year, tight end

604
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: is absurd four years ago. And keep in mind the

605
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: salary cap has gone up substantially. People are getting more

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Speaker 1: money than ever before. The salary cap or the franchise

607
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: tag for running back in twenty nineteen was eleven point two,

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Speaker 1: so it's gone down. It is up slightly from the

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Speaker 1: year before when it was nine point six. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is the what is the fifth year rookie contract?

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Speaker 1: What did he what did they pass on giving him?

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been much more, I don't think, because

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Speaker 1: he was a late round pick, but I can find

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00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: that out here, I do. I chalked it up to

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Speaker 1: regime change, like they came in and weren't totally sold

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00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: on the idea, because right I'm almost a little surprised

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00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 1: they kept them. But then I looked they have more

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00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: cap space than they really They're one of those teams

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Speaker 1: that more cap space than they really need need, So

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Speaker 1: I guess why not? All right? I do like the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys need weapons, and I think Jerry Jones has been

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00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: talking about it the combine. I think they're going to

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Speaker 1: be aggressive. I don't know how exactly, but maybe in

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00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: the trade they could be one of those teams in

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00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: the trade market. So letting Pollard go to me it

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00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: would have been a mist When Jerry Jones has specifically

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00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: mentioned Odell Beckham again still interested and They've been named

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00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: as a target for Jalen Ramsey as well. Getting Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham and expecting that to be what put your offense

630
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: over the top feels like a very very Jerry Jones

631
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Speaker 1: team hasn't appeared in the NFC title game in twenty

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Speaker 1: seven straight years type of you to make. At this point,

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Speaker 1: Jacobs would have gotten eight million on the fifth year option,

634
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: so they only ended up paying two more that Daniel

635
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: Jones decision to not give him the fifth year option

636
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: proved more costly. And yet I can't bang on them

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Speaker 1: at all about it because it made sense at the

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00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: time and sense. No, we're not really talking about Daniel

639
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: Jones right now, but I feel what I feel totally

640
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: comfortable if I'm a Giants fan how they're playing this,

641
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: because like, don't don't back down here, Make him do

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00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: it over a full season before you give him a

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr's contract. Um, he's actually asking for more than

644
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: car reported all right, notable cuts, the Vikings uh cut,

645
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: leading tackler or Kendricks. He hits the UM free agency

646
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: list where he comes in at number for Greg He

647
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: did not crack the one thinking after hearing some feedback

648
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: that you know last year was a new scheme some

649
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: of these linebackers that they aged to bounce back. But

650
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: you I was a little worried as just like, oh,

651
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: there's the decline. You don't want to pay an older linebacker.

652
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: The Jagures will either cut or trade Shack Griffin and

653
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: the Titans say goodbye to Bud do Pre And speaking

654
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: of the Titans, will bring in the grave digger on

655
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: this one. Um Mike Silver or former colleague here at

656
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: n Media reports that Derrick Henry is indeed being shopped

657
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: by the Titans, And uh, you know Silver has connections

658
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: and this all makes sense to me. It's two words.

659
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: The analysis e gone, what do you think justin sense

660
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: for him to be on that team at this point

661
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: to me? But what do you think justin I agree,

662
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: I think the Titans are in a spot where they

663
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: need to plan for twenty twenty four. This team's not

664
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl in twenty twenty three. Get what

665
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: you can now for Derrick Henry while he still has

666
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: trade value. There's also talk that the Titans have called

667
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: the Bears to see what the cost would be to

668
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: move up to number one. That would be a little

669
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: crazy to me because again, you're not in a position

670
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: to win now, Well that makes more sense then. To me,

671
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: that makes sense because I mentioned the Cardinals would be

672
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: my pick to have the worst roster in the league.

673
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: If the Titans get rid of Derrick Henry and Ryan Tannehill,

674
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: they're right, They're right there. Yeah, definitely, And Tannehill to

675
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: the Jets seems I mean this has been like there

676
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: have been rumblings about that potential connection for a couple

677
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: of weeks now, even though the Jets have been more

678
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: linked to Rogers and car until today. But I mean

679
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: that seems like a pretty realistic possibility. The Titans want

680
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: to go the full rebuild route. Trade Tannehill, use those

681
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: picks to come up to number one, get your quarterback,

682
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: use the rest of the picks you got from Tannehill,

683
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: or whatever. Build. I mean, they sill only build an

684
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: offensive line, So to me, bringing in a rookie quarterback

685
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: behind what they have right now could be problematic for

686
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: development sake. But I definitely think Henry is a potential

687
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: trade candidate. Depends like what is it worth to them

688
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: to trade him? Like, are you trading him for like

689
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick? Is that worth it? I would

690
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: think he what makes him very compelling if as a

691
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: piece to move is I think he would have much

692
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: more value than a typical veteran running back. I'm not

693
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Speaker 1: saying first round pick, but could you get a second

694
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: rounder from a team A content obviously why bother? Yeah,

695
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: you're not gonna if you're trading Derek Henry. I think

696
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: you're a Bills type team, You're a Cowboys type team.

697
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: You're insert playoff team that didn't get over the hub

698
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: that's looking for a final piece. He's not gonna get

699
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: traded to a bad team. So like that, let's say

700
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: then it's probably maybe a late second rounder. Would you

701
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: be okay with that? As a Titans fan, I feel

702
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: like that's fair compensation for a running back approaching age thirty.

703
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: I would be okay with it. I think Titans fans

704
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: might go crazy because of a J. Brown last year

705
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: and Nick Derrick Henry this here. It's like, oh, the

706
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: two best players on offense. The franchise stinks, but it's true.

707
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: What is two years in a row? You make that

708
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: trade of the Eagles. Can you imagine Derrick Henry and

709
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: the Eagles backfield with Jalen Hurts. That would be fun.

710
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: That would be now Justin's eyebrows or the Bills, though

711
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: the Bills would be looking to move on Cowboys Singletary.

712
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys would have a lot of money tied up with

713
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard and Derrick Henry together. But like, Henry is

714
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: never on my team, He's never been the pass catching guy.

715
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: Pairing him with Tony Pollard could be an Really what

716
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: is in the backfield? What did Daddy just say last week? Yeah,

717
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: I want to run the ball. I don't like having

718
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: a offense. I want to have a running ball. I

719
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: like this guy, he's a really great runner. Run. I

720
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Speaker 1: Fin'm Mike McCarthy and I'm selling this Zaddie energy. I

721
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't be standing next to Derrick Henry too much. Derrick Henry,

722
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: who we met on He's from another planet. He literally

723
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: loves There's no there's only one type of body that

724
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: would be something that people got very I'm also we're

725
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: at odds with this. I've never seen Mike McCarthy as

726
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: a zaddie you have. We have different philosophies about it.

727
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm willing to let it. I'm just saying having masculine

728
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: curves isn't something that's a turn off to everyone. I

729
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: think it's fine to be people like you can be curvy.

730
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: I get under a blanket and get a little big

731
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: spoon action. Yeah, but you're assuming that my only not

732
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: is curvy nous. It's curvyness is one of the twelve

733
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: things shaming. Mike McCarthy. I am not I am zad

734
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying he does not fit the Zaddie profile that

735
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: I think of when I think of as a Zaddie

736
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: on any level. I spoke for myself, right, But you

737
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: didn't say it. You said it as a matter of fact.

738
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: I think only that I think. I think ninety nine

739
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: point nine percent of humans standing next to Derrick Henry

740
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: would look lesser because of that. Like Derrick Henry, I'm

741
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: more compliment being that famous Dion Lewis picture where he

742
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: kind of looked like a munchkin. He's got a great

743
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: bodyk Henry. That's all I was trying to say. I

744
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: have a conspiracy theory about your Titans. Though they got

745
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: that stadium deal done last October, like locked up all that,

746
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: that's not it. It's more that we're not going to

747
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: bottom out and and stink and get rid of all

748
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: of our good players. If we didn't already have that

749
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: sweet uh money coming in and the stadium deal done,

750
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: because that's a big deal. Like it's asking a lot

751
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: for your fans to go through what the Titans appear

752
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: to be headed towards. They do have the eleventh pick overall,

753
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: maybe they don't have to go up to number one.

754
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: This is a class with at least two quarterbacks. I

755
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: think people are really intrigued by, if not three, if

756
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: maybe four, Right, if not four, maybe maybe they just

757
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: end up going up to five or whatever it is

758
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: and they get their quarter Because Mike Rabels never started

759
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: over from scratch at quarterback. He's just been taking other guys, uh,

760
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, never had his own rookie. It's about a

761
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: year ago that Greg when utterly nuts on like the

762
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: Bills stadium situation, telling telling you and I either like

763
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: you know this is this is about people's real jobbos

764
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: that whole situation. Greg, you were like deep in the

765
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: weeds on the funding for the well yeah, it's like

766
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: civic shaming, Dan and I well, I just mean these

767
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: billionaires were civic minded enough. We're seeing it with the commanders.

768
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: You can you can literally be the worst owner in

769
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: in one of in the history of the sport up there,

770
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: and then you can sell the team for like six

771
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: billion dollars, So I don't need you to be uh

772
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: taking money out of Peter and in Mary's mouth to

773
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: make a stadium figure. Mary what Rob Paul. No, you're

774
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: absolutely right, Greg, and you are a champion of the

775
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: common man. You've proven it with this take, and you

776
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: reservice it was a powerful yeah wind mill dunk, just

777
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: as powerful your right on behalf of the common man.

778
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's obvious. I side with the billionaires,

779
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: take advantage of the city, take your leverage and make

780
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: me and all my friends are jerks. Um, all right,

781
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's take a break and we'll be right back.

782
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: All right. I think that covers it. That's what's happening

783
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: in the news before we move on. I really hope

784
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers doesn't make even if even if it's the Jets,

785
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: I'll still be annoyed because it will put us in

786
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: a very difficult position with our Derek Carr. Open. If

787
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers makes a decision today before this show goes

788
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: live and we have to do surgery, no think about

789
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: us for once. Please I can't. I can only think

790
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: about Derek Carr. Get finish this show. Let's get it out,

791
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: get it out, and then if the Rodgers news happens,

792
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: we're doubling up, doubling up, double header at m double header.

793
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: How about that? Mark? So if I'm you know, driving

794
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: around LA, I have to cycle back to the office

795
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: to do an episode here. That's I mean, it's it's

796
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: a gargantuan story in the NFL. We might we might

797
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: have to be here, might be remote. Yeah, right, find

798
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: out where I am at that point. We'll see that

799
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: garage set up. You know, I might be with you

800
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: in your garage at that point. Uh, let's talk about

801
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: the combine. Let's put a put a bow on that

802
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: um in Indianapolis, some winners and losers. I um. I

803
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: was on the thread the text thrend with Mark Edward

804
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: Sessler and Greg Peter Peter come enhal out Peter Stewart.

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00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: That's my brother's name. I don't know how you pulled

806
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: that out, because I think I did mention he went

807
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Speaker 1: by Greg Michael Rosenthal, very very traditional, very nice. I

808
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: like it. H is it well? Greg's traditional non traditional spelling?

809
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: Is Michael have a different spelling now, Mike k e No,

810
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: Michael is spelled as you would expect anyway. On the

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00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: text thread, Mark doubled down and was saying how much

812
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: he was into the draft this year. So you have

813
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: a number of winners and losers, and Greg, I want

814
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: you to dive in on this as well and share

815
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: things that really jumped out to you. Who were the winners?

816
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: Who were the losers? You just raised your eyebrows. Now, Greg,

817
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: do you not have winners and losers? No? I do? Okay, good?

818
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Good Mark? What jumped out to you a winner from

819
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: the combine? Well, I'd start with the quarterbacks with Anthony Richardson,

820
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: because I mean, I think that if you I don't

821
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: know if quarterbacks in the combine, whether you throw or

822
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: you don't, are going to really change your destiny that much.

823
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: I would be concerned if teams were wowed by that alone.

824
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: But the workout of Anthony Richardson, I thought it was

825
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: well illustrated by what NFL research put out. Is a

826
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: tweet that shows how unusually is He is six four

827
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: and a quarter inches, which is taller than George Kittle

828
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. He weighs more than Hassan Reddick. He

829
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: has bigger hands than DeAndre Hopkins, a higher vertical jump

830
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: than Davante Adams, and a longer broad jump than Odell Beckham.

831
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: I mean he really essentially worked out as a star

832
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver. He's also as a quarterback, though I think

833
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: you have to realize, like there's obviously the project aspect

834
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: to him. His completion percentage is about as low as

835
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: possible for anyone who would be drafted. It was under

836
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: fifty five percent. He's only started thirteen games, But I

837
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: think from the physical angle, when you watch his tape,

838
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: it's like, wait a minute, someone is going to be

839
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: absolutely fascinated with the idea of turning him into what

840
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: he could be. Yeah, I'm looking forward to dive in

841
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: more to his tape, but from what I've watched, like

842
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: if you compare him to previous prospects and think about

843
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: who he's closest to, those guys went high, Like, I

844
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: think his profile is better or similar to Trey Lance's.

845
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: I think his profile is very similar to Josh Allen's,

846
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: but it was in a s see offense. I think

847
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: he's not as limited in terms of like the type

848
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: of quarterback trying to stay in the pocket as people

849
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: are making out to be. And the numbers are just outrageous.

850
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: There there there Josh Allen freak, Cam Newton freak, except

851
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: even faster somehow numbers and you look at like how

852
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was able to develop who you know, you

853
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: would think Richardson can be that sort of runner, and

854
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: you can just imagine a team wanting to take him.

855
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: And I know Lance brought up Malik Willis. It's like,

856
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: there's no way that Malik Willis would have even though

857
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: he got pushed up in by the mock drafters, if

858
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson was in that last draft, I still think

859
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: he would have been the first He would have been

860
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: the first one taken there. They were very different prospects

861
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: to me, and so to be off the charts this athletic.

862
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: He still might be the third quarterback in this draft

863
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: behind Bryce Young and c J. Stroud, But it's just

864
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: hard for me to think that he's gonna slip past

865
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: the top ten and so he's gonna be a big story.

866
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: You never know, he might he might sneak in front

867
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: of one of those two quess He is a huge, huge,

868
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: huge gamble for obvious reasons. That you guys just brought

869
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: up and you know Lance who knows this stuff, and

870
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: he said, you know, he's a He cited him. He's

871
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: the first name that Lance said, Like, he's gonna come

872
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: out of this and people are going to be in

873
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: love because he's so athletic. But then the people that

874
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: are that are connecting him to Josh Allen, Josh Allen's

875
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: a unicorn. Like it's very rare to see a guy

876
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: be a scattershot, big athletic passer with accuracy issues, clean

877
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: that up and become a plus actor. He wasn't accurate

878
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: on Saturday, by the way, either. He missed throws on

879
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: the field. Like if if you draft him, you have

880
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: to prepare for like two potentially very different outcomes here.

881
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: And he I think he referred to himself as a

882
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Lamar Newton when people are asking Richardson to comp himself

883
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: favorite player, right, he used to be ten years ago

884
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: when we were doing this, people would say, Michael Vick.

885
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: Now when that hyper athletic, it's a Cam Newton type

886
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: of Lamar type. Yes, Grave I think he actually said

887
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: he was Cam Jackson Jackson. He was fascinating with Newton

888
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: because Lamar it's a named pops, I would have went

889
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: lamar nude. But there is to your point about I mean,

890
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: wearing wind up is all over the map because only

891
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, Christian Hackenburg and Trace McSorley were selected in

892
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: the draft with lower completion percentage than him at at

893
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: the college level. Trey Lance also, but you know he

894
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: that was because of a Corona altered season. But I

895
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: guess you're hoping, oh, what happened to Josh Allen with

896
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: his completion percentage, with his accuracy over a couple of seasons,

897
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: you duplicate with this, But Josh, because they're the similar size,

898
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: and that's an outlier that you can do that with

899
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback. You're going to improve, no doubt. But like

900
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: that also came with a Bills team that was blessed

901
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: with Brian Dable working with Josh Allen. Like, the team

902
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: that takes them better have the right guys around to

903
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: develop them quickly, because you're gonna want to. No fan

904
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: base is gonna sit there in a losing situation with

905
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: this player on the bench. See it seems like um

906
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 1: like a guy will talk about plenty. I feel like CJ.

907
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: Sprit Stroud's gotten weirdly lost than this shuffle here and

908
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: then d Jay saying that's one of the best just

909
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: throwing performances he's ever seen at the Combine. And you

910
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: watch him and he's like just like deadly accurate, and

911
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: that reminds me a little bit of Baker Mayfield. But

912
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, in a good way and

913
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: in a bad way that like Baker, who is incredibly accurate.

914
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: But I think CJ. Stroud definitely has a better reputation

915
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: for the way he can see the field and manage

916
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: the game. It's funny to see like quarterbacks come out

917
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: now and like they're facing criticism that he didn't run enough,

918
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: and like we'll see he didn't really run there at

919
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: the Combine either, but he had some moments in the

920
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: in the National semifinals. But like just the way he

921
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: spins it, I mean, I think you would feel really

922
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: good if he ends up, if your team gets him,

923
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel like it's a total lock that

924
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: we know who's gonna go one and two. We kind

925
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: of know that the Bears are trading this pick. At

926
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: this point, Pulse has essentially said Fields is our guy

927
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: all but said that, and that we're likely to trade

928
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: the pick, and who knows. It sounds like some teams

929
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: will like Stroud better than Bryce Young, who measured in

930
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: at five ten, because strouds just like a little more typical.

931
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's not, like, I don't know, like one

932
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: of the great quarterback prospects of the last five years.

933
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: But he's a guy who I think would probably go

934
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: in the top five every year. It's not like he's

935
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: a weird prospect that's getting pushed up. He was, by

936
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: the way, Bryson was barely five ten. Yeah, now that's

937
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: something Lance kind of tamped that down a little bit.

938
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: He's like they could structure all that and help him

939
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: with those things, but that is not He can like

940
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: process on the field like Patrick Mahomes in chaos and

941
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: that he's probably tougher to catch than Kyler Murray. So

942
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, he's armed with gifts that can you know,

943
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: fend off some of the size concern. But I think

944
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: durability will always be an issue. It's gonna be a

945
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: fun draft unless that trade comes really early, because I

946
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: just gotta think that who goes one is going to

947
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: depend on who makes that trade. Like Trayvon Walker went one,

948
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: I think he only went one because the Jaguars picked first.

949
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: If anyone else was picking first, Trayvon Walker wouldn't have

950
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: gone first. But but I think that's going to be

951
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: the case here where different teams have different quarterbacks. For

952
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: I think you could have four quarterbacks in the first

953
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: five choice for selections if you have the right people

954
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: trading up. This isn't twenty twenty hindsight, but that always

955
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: felt so strange last year, the way that whole top

956
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: of the draft played out with Walker being the number

957
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: one pick. Do you agree with me on that? Justin

958
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: though even you know in the moment it was like, Okay,

959
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: you're so sure about this guy, But that's part of

960
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: the process. Hej did have your Voice Sauce number two

961
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: overall on his board, and I think he had Hutchinson one,

962
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: and either of those picks looked like they would have

963
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: been a better idea. Um, all right, how about a loser?

964
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: Oh loser? I thought you gave a winner. I thought

965
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: Stroud kind of showed out a little combines more about

966
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: the winners. But that that's fair. Who do I want

967
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: to go with? Lozard? You got a loser? There's a

968
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: clear there's one very clear loser. Andrew Vorhees the USC

969
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: guard or towards ACL Like, that's about the worst possible

970
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: scenario at all. I think the only thing I'd kind

971
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: of like watching the whiteouts. Um, it's kind of a

972
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: small group of wide receivers where, unless you're wide receivers

973
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: in general were losers, but Jordan Addison would have been

974
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: the one that stood out as as a loser you

975
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: wanted if you wanted one. I think Quinn Johnson, if anything,

976
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: can say I'm a different, like looking wide receiver than

977
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: the rest of these guys. He's like six four, but

978
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a weird group, which I think

979
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: also sort of makes guys like Odell Beckham a winner

980
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: in free agency if you can't rely on the drafts

981
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: in past years to completely change your passing game. So

982
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: Addison is a smaller receiver. DJ's got him one, but

983
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: a lot of other people might have him four or five.

984
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it's a great receiver class compared

985
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: to the last few years. They might get pushed up.

986
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: But Addison didn't run the forty fast and then he

987
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: didn't finish his work out just because I mean and

988
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: you gotta be. I do worry. I know, like like

989
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: wait's not as big a deal as it used to be.

990
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: But Devanta Smith is like strong as hell and fast

991
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: as hell. So if you're one hundred and seventy four

992
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: pounds and you're not like super fast, Uh, that worries me.

993
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: I think Jackson Smith and Jigba had a great day though.

994
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: His three cone was like insane just the way he

995
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: moves on the field. Uh, he looks like one of

996
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: those like amans Row Saint Brown type of guys are

997
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: just gonna get open no matter where you put him,

998
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: So he might be one. He looked the part and

999
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people's wide receiver list. How about another winner, Mark? Uh,

1000
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: let's see, I will Mark Mark Mark Mark. I will

1001
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: go with my dude, Um, Lucas van Ness, because I

1002
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: think there was is he just is he just a

1003
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: hot bot? It's like he I thought he did really

1004
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: well and I think he's someone that's going to continue

1005
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: to climb because it's like he had a seven point

1006
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: zero two three cone, a excellent ten yards split short shuttle. Um,

1007
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: he looks just amazing. I mean it's the kind of

1008
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: thing that you're all these guys. Yeah, I mean for

1009
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: his position, I think he's up there. Yep. I mean

1010
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: there's a kind of thing where it's like, if I'm

1011
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: a fan of a team, if he's on, he's immediately

1012
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: my favorite defensive player. Yeah. I think he's just so

1013
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 1: like strong looking. He reminds me of like a little

1014
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: bit of like a poor man's clowney coming out Nolan Smith.

1015
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: Maybe he goes maybe he goes high, like how high though?

1016
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: Top fifteen? Who knows? How about Llijah Canty? I just

1017
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: like saying that name. You're a defensive tackle that can

1018
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: run a forty that fast. All the cornerbacks it felt

1019
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: like we're super fast and the wide receivers were slow.

1020
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: It's so it's a I looked at it and I'm

1021
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: not I'm just like kind of diving in. And so

1022
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see what positions are good in this

1023
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: class and which ones aren't. It seems like a great

1024
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: cornerback class if you need one, A bad safety class,

1025
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: a really bad linebacker class. Maybe not a good uh

1026
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: class for offensive line. Maybe it's like an average offensive

1027
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: lineman class. But yeah, wide receivers. I feel like this

1028
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: is gonna be the first year where they don't get

1029
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: pushed up. Like if there was a Garrett Wilson in

1030
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: this class, like he might be going top five because

1031
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: he would just stay out so much, whereas last year

1032
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: there was so many good reasons. Nolan Smith, the edge

1033
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: rusher out of Georgia, ran a faster forty times four

1034
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: point three nine than everything, where Like they showed him

1035
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: running against DeAndre Hopkins and Stefan Diggs and this is

1036
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: an edge rusher running faster than that. Now you've got

1037
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: like these guys on defense that are faster than wide receivers.

1038
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez might be the number one cornerback and you

1039
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: mentioned it just like looking the part, and I'm I'm

1040
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: no like scout, but Christian Gonzales just like when he's

1041
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: in those drills and his numbers like were amazing, and

1042
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: he might be a top ten pick, he might be

1043
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: a top five pick. Who knows, he might be the

1044
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: top cornerback. He just he just looks like kind of

1045
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: like Sauce just looked like a real great cornerback right

1046
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: off the jump. He's not at that level of like

1047
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: a prospect. But it will be mentioned a roughly fifteen

1048
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: thousand times between now and then that his sister is

1049
00:52:51,400 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: Mark's newsletter subject as wife from Hard Knocks that David

1050
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: Blau's wife who was on that Olympics team is Christen Gondalas' sister.

1051
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: What a family, and I think this could be an

1052
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: extension in a real bump for the newsletter good Good

1053
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: Blood lines. Did you guys mention that Nold Smith ran

1054
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: the same forty times justin Jefferson, Well, not exactly, but

1055
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: faster than I mean stuff thought that is outrageous. That

1056
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: doesn't seem right. I do like some some zave flowers.

1057
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: He's nice. How about tu Lane as a winner? That'll

1058
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: be my last? Okay, go ahead. Dorian Williams, an off

1059
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: ball linebacker, might be the number one week side guy

1060
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: in this class. It might not be a he had

1061
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: a monster workout and then people people are finally catching

1062
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: up to Taje Spears two lanes running back who's gonna,

1063
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: you know, really live up to the legacy of Maulde

1064
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Moore and Matt Forte. Just the way he moves. He

1065
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: really is the type of running back that I would love,

1066
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: regardless of he went to two lane. It's probably more

1067
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: of like a second round pick, maybe the third or

1068
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: fourth running back. But he had an he just looks

1069
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: you know who we gotta check back in with. It's

1070
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: been a couple of years. Bob Batestide. Yes, my father

1071
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: in law, Baylor Booster and m He came on the

1072
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: show a few years back to hype up Denzel Mims.

1073
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: That was a tough one. That was a bad beat. Um.

1074
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: Although Mims is still under contract with the Jets, he

1075
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: hasn't made a big impact. Let's see what's going on.

1076
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: He's got some big twelve takes and some Bears takes.

1077
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check in with him. I think it's it's

1078
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: the right time to do that. Absolutely, it's Straft season,

1079
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: baby jack pot baby um anything else? Boys, what did

1080
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: you think of Will Levis? I know you mentioned him.

1081
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: I thought he looked very good with his shirt, his

1082
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: shirts sleeveless. He's totally confident in his own ability. He's

1083
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: buff as my boys like to use that term a lot.

1084
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: He showed accuracy, which was a major issue. Now do it?

1085
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Does that mean much to me? Like you're throwing in

1086
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: an empty stadium to guys, running alone doesn't mean a

1087
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: ton to me. Were we're told it's not supposed to

1088
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: mean anything too, so right, I just assume I do.

1089
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 1: I still do wonder why more and more teams aren't

1090
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: sending their staff to the Combine, Like, as a football fan,

1091
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: what am I to take of this weekend? It's a

1092
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: bit of a lot of Ravil Magnifi call to me

1093
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: on that front. So I struggle with the Combine every year. Yeah,

1094
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: in terms of it's just for me, like a good

1095
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: place to start even just learning about players, even if

1096
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: the Combine itself is And then you mentioned Andrew Avore's

1097
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: blown out his acl and that's o us Wanya Morris

1098
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: blown out his hamstring, And it's just like you already

1099
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: got all the game tape, you already got the pro day,

1100
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, for these guys. But I will say this,

1101
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: I will end all that who cares. I will end

1102
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: it with a positive note about our colleagues here at

1103
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: the NFL Network does an awesome job with the Combine

1104
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: because it could be a very dry watch because it

1105
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: is highly repetitive. But I really do love how they

1106
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: take all the past prospects who became stars and impact players,

1107
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: and now especially in the HD four K era, like

1108
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: you have all this footage from the last ten years

1109
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: even where you could splice in this stuff and it

1110
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: all looks so good. They really do almost gamify it

1111
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. So shout out to UK and Q

1112
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: and everybody their teams for making an event that I

1113
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: don't have a ton of interest in. Like when I

1114
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: do tune in, I'm like, oh, this is cool. I

1115
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: like seeing Aaron Donald racing against so and so, Like

1116
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: this is this is like thirty hours of live television

1117
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: is not any easy. Rich Eyes and Daniel Jeremi do

1118
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: an awesome job. It's good to hear kind of the

1119
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: DJ download and it like of just all the information

1120
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: he's built up, and it just makes me think, like,

1121
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: why not start a podcast about the draft? Jeremiah? It

1122
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: just seems like some bigger and bigger every year. At

1123
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: a certain point it goes you could say the bosses

1124
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: should be coming up with this idea, but DJ, there's

1125
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: there's an asset here make something in yourself. I mean,

1126
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: you just think DJ, who I thought was a visionary

1127
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: on some level, would show some vision on that on

1128
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: that front. All right, I do like that. Darnel Washington,

1129
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: by the way, he's like six foot seven tight end

1130
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: for George it's a very good tight end class. Interesting

1131
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: the way he was blocking the tight end prospects in

1132
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: this stretch. I loved like the comparisons for him because

1133
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: you think tall tight end like they're usually a little

1134
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: stiff like they was kind of compared to Marcedes Lewis,

1135
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: and Marcedes Lewis was a high pick coming out, so

1136
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: maybe he tested well too. But Darnel Washington was moving

1137
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: around like a man that big should not be moving around.

1138
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, there could be three or four tight ends

1139
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: taken in the first round or the first thirty five picks,

1140
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: and yeah, JDJ think it's the best tight end class. Yeah,

1141
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: you know years round one tight end too hit like

1142
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: truly hit, but like who really has hit? The last

1143
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: guy Hawkinson, I'd say was he was. I think Hakinson

1144
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: was fantastic class it was he was. Yeah, I think

1145
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: I think Hawkinson was like a solid single to left,

1146
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: if not a if you with a big stretch, maybe

1147
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: he returns the three rounded first big turn. Really he

1148
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: was probably about what you would want for a top

1149
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: ten pick. But you want a little you're hoping for

1150
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: a little more. You're hoping you go back to you know, O. J.

1151
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 1: Howard Um. He was a chemist, Noah Fan I would

1152
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: I would be a little bit buyer beware um in

1153
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: the first round just because of the history of the position.

1154
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: But um, but you're hearing a lot of big hype

1155
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: about some of these tight ends, right Mayor who didn't

1156
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: like run like crazy as kind of the Jason Witten type.

1157
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: Maybe a first round guy Kincaide who DJ has in

1158
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: the top ten or twelve picks overall, now Washington, maybe

1159
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave is up like it's a lot of good options.

1160
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: Can you remind me, mister gravedigger, we're gonna try to

1161
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: get Jeremiah on the show. Maybe we could pitch the

1162
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: idea of a draft related podcast. Um. I want to

1163
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: talk to him about the tight ends and why maybe

1164
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't always translate and why he thinks these guys could.

1165
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: And that's that's good. Little yeah. Another reminder, the Ravens

1166
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: drafted Hayden Hurst in the first round another same year

1167
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: they took Lamar. They took Hayden Her before they took

1168
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: that's amazing. We do through the left side of the infield. Yes,

1169
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: we have some breaking news, not even a big round news. Yes,

1170
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: Mark out of Jacksonville, Calvin Ridley has been reinstated by

1171
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: the NFL. I thought it was one of the quietly

1172
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: great trades of last offseason. More like big balloping news.

1173
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: But what what was your breaking news the other week

1174
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: that like, you're don't use your Greg as the bar

1175
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: your grandparent like repainted is deprecating on the breaking news. Ah,

1176
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: my grandparents are dead, so it's well, that would be

1177
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: breaking news, would be news. We knew that was happening.

1178
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: But it's good to know that Jacksonville Jaguars are going

1179
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: to have many weapons with a you know, a really

1180
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: ascendant young quarterback good sitch, good sitch, classic good sitch.

1181
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: We need, you know, we need, we'd uh breaking news

1182
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: to bust out of the slump. We need like Aaron

1183
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: Rodgers to happen in the middle of the show. It

1184
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: needs its dignity. Back to breaking news drop, we would

1185
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: ruin ruin that great Derek Carr and we can't have

1186
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: you ever been that hot in Las Vegas? Not that hot?

1187
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: It's probably why I'm going somewhere else. I like Derek Carr.

1188
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: It would have been cool he was on the Jets.

1189
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: But good luck to mister Carr in the Saints. All Right,

1190
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: we will be back on Wednesday. Of course, we are

1191
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: on call for any big news. Uh really, what is

1192
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: the biggest Lamar or Rogers? Now right, that's what we're

1193
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: on call for, unless there's something else that we don't

1194
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: see coming, which happens in sports breaking newsworthy. You mean something, Yeah,

1195
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,959
Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones and the Giants come to terms before

1196
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: the franchise tag deadline Wednesday. No, that's no, that's earth shaking,

1197
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: but no, probably not. Otherwise you'll hear us on Wednesday.

1198
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: Do we want to check in with the League of

1199
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: thirty two in a certain type of way looking ahead

1200
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: to next week? And what is next week, Greggy, the

1201
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: start of free agency? Boom boom, the new league year,

1202
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: free agency. It's all happening. Thank you to everybody until Wednesday,

1203
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: or perhaps before those are signing off for the Old

1204
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: Boss and Quiet Storm and Great Digger. Till Wednesday hear

1205
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: the call.