1 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory. My name 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: is Chandler Room with Tyler Stafford as always, and with 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: pitchers and catchers reporting to West Palm Beach today, we 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: thought it'd be wise to get the guy in charge 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: of all the pictures and catchers in the ASTROS system 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: on pitching coach. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Josh Miller. Josh, appreciate you joining us. 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: People are going to hear this on Wednesday when pitchers 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: and catchers report to camp, but we're talking to you 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: on Monday. I think you're flying to West Palm tomorrow. 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: How busy are you right now? 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: You know it's been a longer off season than than normal, 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: but you know, we find ways to keep busy, keeping 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: all the guys in order, getting their schedules lined up, 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: and we're rare to go, excited to get down to 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: West Palm and get started. 18 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: Before we get into the staff this year and what 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: you guys have coming through. I don't think a lot 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: of people know what about you. You're just kind of 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: this mythical figure that you're part of this infrastructure that 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: turns you Sae Kakuchi into a sub three e R 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: A guy for the last two months of last year. 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: You're just a part of the big pitching infrastructure. And 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 2: I you know, when fans normally see you, you're walking 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: out to the mound, your hands over your mouth. They 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: can't even see your face. They don't know because you 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: don't want them to know what you're saying. But this 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: will be your nineteenth season in the Astros org as 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: a non player. You were a player, you pitch for 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: the in the Astro system for three years, but be 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: your nineteenth season in the ORG as either a scout 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 2: a coach. Some is it hard to believe it's gone 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: by that fast? 35 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been pretty crazy. 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: I think the nineteen year does include my three to 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: have seasons as a minor league player when I pitched 38 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: for the Hooks and the Round Rock Express back in 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: the in the you know, mid odds. But started as 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: a pro scout when I got done playing in twenty 41 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: ten and did that for a couple of years, and 42 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: then started as a as a rookie ball pitching coch 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: and just work my way up the ranks and kind 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: of grew up with with Astros Baseball when they made 45 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 3: the transition to you know, using modern analytics and and 46 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: and how that pertained a player development and kind of 47 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: you know, earned my chops doing it as we learned 48 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: as we go, and and and it was it was 49 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: pretty cool experience. And you know, have been very fortunate 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: to be here with a great group of players, great 51 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: great staff. It's certainly not just me coming up with 52 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: all this stuff. And we have a lot of smart 53 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: people that are involved. And yeah, Kakuchi was a dynamite 54 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: down the stretch last year for us, and it was 55 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: good to see him turn things around for you know, 56 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: such a good guy, a humble guy, a hard worker. 57 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 3: When they put in the work and put their mind 58 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: to it, it's great to see them accomplish. 59 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: Things like that. 60 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: The twenty thirteen Greenville Astros your first your first team 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: that you were a pitching coach for. Do you do 62 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: you know the three pitchers on that team that had 63 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: big league time? 64 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: Oh, man, you're gonna put me on the spot right here. 65 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: We love We love to name some guys on this pod. No, 66 00:02:58,720 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: I know. 67 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: Just joe Us Grove was a part of it at 68 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: the end, came up right at the end, and he's 69 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: been a you know, a pretty big name picture for 70 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: for quite a few years, started with the Astros and 71 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: then went over to the Pirates and then the Padres. 72 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: But right now, you know, putting me on the spot, 73 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: I am blanking the other two, and I am I 74 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 3: really apologize to those guys for it not coming to 75 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: the forefront. 76 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 4: Of my mind. 77 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: Anderson Franco Okay, yep, Whalen Troy Script Troy Scribner. 78 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: Scribner non drafted free agent, big curve ball, his brother 79 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: pitched the big leagues for a few years. 80 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: And I'm kicking myself for not recalling those guys. 81 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: And then one more that I think some Astros fans 82 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: remember John del Gustave. Yes, he's he's kind of more recent, 83 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, that just kind of shows you've been around 84 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: a while and you've seen a ton of You've seen 85 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: a ton of really really really good arms come through 86 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: this system. You've helped them mature and develop. You know, 87 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: you said something right there interesting. You know, you were 88 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 2: with this club when they started to make that transition 89 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: from when Jeff Luno got here and the advent of 90 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: the New age and analytics. Was that something that was 91 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: like could you kind of tell that that they were 92 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: going that way or was that communicated to up and 93 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: down the org that this is the way we're going. 94 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: Kind of as someone that because very few people were 95 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: there and I've seen before then and now, like, how 96 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: would you describe that kind of transition? 97 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: There was, I don't know, kind of a growing up 98 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 3: period where there was more maybe non traditional baseball people 99 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: involved in the on field stuff, educating the coaches and 100 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: then the players. 101 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: You know. 102 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: The people that grabbed onto it and utilize it and 103 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: saw the benefits of it, I think, you know, stuck 104 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 3: around and it really paid dividends and they were able 105 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: to grow with the game. Others were a little more 106 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: reluctant or resistant to it, and you know, they ended 107 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: up finding another place to go work and another thing 108 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: to do. 109 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: You know, I can't really point to to like a 110 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: drastic change. 111 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: I do know that I was in the scouting department 112 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: for one year and then the lunar regime came in 113 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: and I was in the scouting department for the second year, 114 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: and there was a little bit less emphasis on my 115 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: work as a pro scout, and I did notice that, 116 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: and it was one of the reasons why I maybe 117 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: pushed harder to get back on field and in uniform, 118 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: to be a player development staff member, just because I 119 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: felt like I could be more involved a that was 120 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: always my hope, but but be that it would be 121 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: more valued in the organization just based on my experience 122 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: as a scout back then. You know, we did really 123 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: drastically downsize the pro scouting department a couple of years 124 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: later and have kind of gone a different way with 125 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: that until until maybe recently. 126 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: So it turned out to be good for me. 127 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: Obviously, I've progressed my career quite well and got to 128 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: the big leagues and have been very fortuate that, like 129 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: I mentioned, but that's kind of the one thing, just 130 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: noticing the maybe lack of emphasis on traditional boots on 131 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: the ground, eyes on the pro player scouting department that 132 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: I was part of, and and more on using the 133 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: analytics to maybe refine a search and target more specifically 134 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 3: minor league players like that. 135 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Josh, I would imagine that having that scouting background, 136 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 5: I mean really helps, especially from a pitching perspective, because 137 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 5: you know, I mean there are a million people that 138 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 5: we could name of, you know, guys that either the 139 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 5: Astros acquire or maybe unheralded prospects who just seem like 140 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 5: magically turn into really really good pictures. How does your 141 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: how does your scouting background you know, uh play into 142 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 5: you know when you when you do start to try 143 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 5: to develop pictures, even at the big league level, Like 144 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 5: what are you looking for in pictures? 145 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: How? 146 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 5: How does that affect kind of what you do on 147 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 5: a day to day basis. 148 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 3: It was really good for me personally to get into 149 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: the scouting department right after playing. You know, I quickly 150 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: realized why why I wasn't a prospect. I did not 151 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: like watching pictures that pitched like me, and it was 152 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: it was a quick kind of introduction to oh, okay, 153 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: this is this is how things work and why things 154 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: are you know, I'm sure you guys have have noticed. 155 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: But you know, being a successful major league pitcher, there's 156 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: not a not a one size fits all, there's there's 157 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: a myriad of different ways that you can attack hitters 158 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: and and be good. I think what we've done really 159 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: well with the Astros is picking up on things like 160 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: uniqueness and you know, not closing ourselves off just because 161 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: somebody does something a certain way, being open to different 162 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: ways that guys can get better and be successful at 163 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: the major league level. 164 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you mentioned kind of the the changes in the 165 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 5: minor league system around, you know, when when you were 166 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 5: down there. I worked for the hook in twenty fifteen 167 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 5: and that was when you know, track Man was instituted. 168 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 5: I was also the guy up in the press box 169 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: that was clicking the pitchclock timer every twenty seconds. But 170 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 5: then you know, after the games, I would work with 171 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 5: at the time, Tyler Heineman was with the Hooks and 172 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 5: so we'd go over all the track Man stuff, and 173 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 5: I mean it did absolutely feel like scouting, even though 174 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 5: it was player developed, you know, I mean, it really 175 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 5: did feel like, you know, there's all these analytics, but 176 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 5: the core of it was, you know, what do you 177 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 5: do well and how do we maximize that? As opposed 178 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 5: to I think sometimes when people think about analytics, it's, oh, 179 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 5: the best pitch is this, so we need to make 180 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 5: everybody look like this, and that's not really how the 181 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: astros use analytics. And at least in my experience, do 182 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 5: you agree with that? 183 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally, that's right. 184 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 3: Everything at a player development level is geared to the 185 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: individual and ways that we can maximize their foremance. Again, 186 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: everybody does things a little bit differently, and it's our 187 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: job to you know, set up the guardrails to a 188 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: give them a path to major league success, and then 189 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: and try and make it more likely that it can happen, 190 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: and like I said, can happen a number of different ways, 191 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: and we try and outline what each individual can do 192 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: well and maximize that. 193 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: Josh, we're going to shift focus to the twenty twenty 194 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: five astros and they're pitching staff right after a word 195 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: from foul Territory Krats. 196 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 6: Do you like spending an hour on grocery shopping? 197 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 4: Nope? 198 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: Speed up the process, please, introducing Hungry Root to the 199 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: ft fan. 200 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: Now we can all be boogie with our own personal 201 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 2: shopper to handle the food shopping, including rerecs based on 202 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: what you're looking to put in your body. 203 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 6: I stack my Hungry Root box with items like gluten free, 204 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 6: dairy free, blueberry wapples for brakfast, shrimp veggie bowls for lunch, 205 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 6: and a little filet mignon with potatoes and broccolii for dinner. 206 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: You can also say just hey, Hungry Root, I eat 207 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: paleo or I'm vegetarian, and they load up your car 208 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: with personalized recommendations and. 209 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 6: Those keep evolving as they learn about what you're into. 210 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 6: Also no bs as in no artificial sweeteners or preservatives 211 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 6: in any of hunger Roots food. You're gonna love hunger 212 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 6: Root as much as FT does. Take advantage of this 213 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 6: exclusive offer for a limited time, get forty percent off 214 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 6: your first box plus get a free item in every 215 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 6: box for life. Go to hunger Root dot com slash 216 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 6: ft and use code FT that's Hungryroot dot com slash 217 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 6: FT code f T to get forty percent off your 218 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 6: first box and a free item of your choice for life. 219 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 2: Josh, if I counted right, you're gonna have thirty four 220 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: pitchers in Big League camp as of this moment. Who knows, 221 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: you guys could make a minor league signing between now 222 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: and then, but thirty four as we talk today, let's 223 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: real quick talk about a couple that won't be there, 224 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: justin Verlander obviously signing in this off season with the 225 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: San Francisco Giants and then Ryan Presley going to the 226 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs in a trade. 227 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: Two really veteran. 228 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: Stallwarts of that of that clubhouse, two guys, is that 229 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: you got to really watch blossom and grow. I guess 230 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 2: what are what are you guys going to miss about 231 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: both Verlander and Presley on this pitching staff. 232 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're irreplaceable with their experience, you know, 233 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 3: what they bring to the clubhouse, but they bring to 234 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: the rest of the pitching staff and. 235 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: Guidance and setting an example. You know, Presley's been the. 236 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: Chief of the bullpen basically keeps everybody in order, keeps 237 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: everybody loose, and not to mention, he's a really talented 238 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 3: pitcher who got super big outs. 239 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 4: For us for the last since twenty eighteen. 240 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: Really, you know, it's been been great to be a 241 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 3: part of his ascension to being one of the best 242 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 3: relievers in the league. 243 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 4: You know, justin Verlander, future Hall of Famer. Every time 244 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: he takes them out, it's. 245 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: It's a show, it's a it's a spectacle to watch 246 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: him work, to watch him prep. 247 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: You know, definitely will be missed. 248 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: I know that they have both helped me grow as 249 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: a coach and a person, and you know, when they're 250 00:11:59,280 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: not playing against the. 251 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: Gastros, I will definitely be rooting for both jav and 252 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: Presley to do. 253 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: Well without them. 254 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: I think I think everyone's focus once these two moves 255 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: were made, I think, you know, judging by my Twitter mentions, 256 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: and and emails and things. I get people are people 257 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: are kind of okay with the depth and the rotation. 258 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: But but I think once you take Presley out of 259 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: that setup role, obviously you have Brian Abray, You're gonna 260 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: gonna pitch the eighth inning most nights. You have Josh 261 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 2: Hater in the ninth inning. Not too much experience beyond. 262 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: Those two guys. 263 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: Actually the one the reliever in camp with the most 264 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: major league service time for you, guys as Rafael Montero, 265 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 2: who is not on the big who's not on the 266 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: forty man roster as we speak. We saw Taylor Scott 267 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: last year obviously have a breakout season. We saw Caleb 268 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: b Ord come up and and do some nice things. 269 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: Those two guys seem like they're gonna play pivotal roles. 270 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: But who else, maybe do you have early on as 271 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: guys that you're gonna be zeroing in on it as 272 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: guys that can help in this bullpen to bridge to 273 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: Brian A. 274 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: Brad You and Josh Hader. 275 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's guys that we feel really good 276 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 4: about that we saw last year. He mentioned a few 277 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 4: of them. Taylor Scott really rose to a prominent role in. 278 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: Our bullpen and really kept us together, especially during the 279 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: early and mid parts of the season. Kind of grew 280 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: into a more leverage role and got some big outs 281 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: for us. Caleb Bord came up as a waiver claim. 282 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: You know, throws tremendously hard through a ton of strikes 283 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: when he's with us in the big leagues. You know, 284 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: we hope that he can build upon that and continue 285 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 3: to be a be a force. We also have Brian 286 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: King somebody here we added to the roster during the 287 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 3: season last year and he came up and did really well, 288 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: especially against left handed hitters, but he's got stuff that 289 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: can play against righties too. We have a couple of 290 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 3: kind of guys with big stuff. We saw Sean Dubin 291 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: get some big outs for us last year. He got 292 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: to save in the last regular season game. He throws hard, 293 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: has tremendous breaking stuff. Forced Whitley, you know, waiting for 294 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 3: him to click, and this is his year to do so. 295 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: He set a great offseason. He's worked out here in Houston. 296 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: His stuff looks great. Hopefully he can have a good 297 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: camp and really solidify himself to have a. 298 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 4: Role on this team. 299 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: You mentioned Monty who is not on the roster now, 300 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: but we you know, sent him down to Triple A 301 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: at the end of last year and he pitched really, 302 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: really well. He pitched a handful of games in the 303 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: Dominican Winter League playoffs and and continued that trajectory. So 304 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: expecting him to come in be ready to go in 305 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: camp to start. We have a few other non roster 306 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: guys that have major league experience. Miguel Castro, who we 307 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: saw pitch for the Orioles and the Yankees last couple 308 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: of years. He was with Arizona last year. Came in 309 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: on a minor league deal, you know, brings a ton 310 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: of experience out of the bullpen. Guy named Brandon Walter 311 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: was a signed last year after the Red Sox. He 312 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: was a roster casualty. 313 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: He was hurt. We picked him up, he continued his rehab. 314 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: He'll be here ready to go at the start a camp. 315 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: Steve Okert, a left handed reliever on a non roster 316 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: minor league deal who's pitched for the Cup of different 317 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: big league teams against US the last few years. We 318 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: saw him with Miami, with Minnesota. 319 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: Another guy that brings some left on left stuff but 320 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: also has some power to it. That can get Ready's out. 321 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: So there's a there's a ton of options. You know, 322 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: Subtracting Presley from the mix brings some competition. 323 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 4: An element to it to camp. So it'll be fun 324 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: to follow and you know, hopefully all the guys can 325 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: put their best foot forward. 326 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 5: You mentioned Taylor Scott who had just an unbelievable year 327 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 5: last year. You know, you and and the Ashers organization 328 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: have a history of, like we said, kind of taking 329 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 5: guys who haven't performed that well or maybe up to 330 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 5: their potential, including Presley, right, I mean even coming over 331 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 5: from the Twins. Uh, you know several years ago. Can 332 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 5: you speak to anything that you know, maybe adjustments that 333 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 5: were made to Taylor Scott that you know last year 334 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 5: he was in the top two percent of pitchers and 335 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 5: miss barrels, right, So, like, what what happened? What what 336 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 5: adjustments were made that that made him so successful? 337 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: Well, hey, you know, kudos to our our player personnel 338 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: department in the office for identifying him as a target. 339 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: He brings a ton of uniqueness to the equation. I 340 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: don't know if you guys watched him. Pitch is set 341 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: up on the rubber's third base side. He's got the 342 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: slingy slot. He's got pretty good extension. 343 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: He throws hard. 344 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: You know, there was some usage things that we talked 345 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: to him about, and he was he was game and 346 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: and you know, kudos to him. He came in with 347 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: an open mind, a very diligent work ethic. He asked, 348 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: he has questions. He you know, puts things in practice 349 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: right away. You know, his four seam fastball, despite not 350 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: having you know, blistering velocity, plays very very well. He 351 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: started throwing his split a little bit more versus both batsides, 352 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: and you know, he was really really good, and you know, 353 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: there's things that he could do to be to be better, 354 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: and we hope that he's able to accomplish those things 355 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: this year and can really increase the performance that he 356 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: showed last year. 357 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: You since you mentioned it there, I want to go 358 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: here in a bigger picture sort of situation. You know, 359 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: Tyler asked, you know, Taylor Scott was another kind of 360 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: Astros car wash product when in the Astros pitching car 361 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: wash came out and was one of the best relievers 362 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: in baseball for five months. And I think a lot 363 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: of fans and a lot of just observers kind of 364 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: wonder like what is the astros pitching car wash? Like 365 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: when you guys get a whether it's a trade acquisition, 366 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: it's a guy like Kakouchi last year, or it's a 367 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: free agent a guy you get in a minor league deal, Like, 368 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: can you go through and you're not going to give 369 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: us a proprietary information, but can you go through kind 370 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: of in general, how you guys communicate to them? All Right, 371 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: here's what we found, here's what we'd like you to do, 372 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: and kind of how that plan is enacted and put 373 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: into place. 374 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, we introduced everybody to our tools, which we think 375 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: our best in the business and and you know, are 376 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: a good way of depicting certain that a picture can do, 377 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: and get their feedback on what they've experienced at other places, and. 378 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 4: Just have an open conversation about, hey, this is what 379 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 4: we see. 380 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 3: We think you could do x, y or Z a 381 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 3: little bit better or a little bit more or a 382 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: little bit less, and it could you know, really really 383 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: pay dividends for your performance. And you know, mostly the 384 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: guys are all ears and willing to put in the 385 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 3: changes and put in the work to try and accomplish 386 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: those things. Not every time are the guys able to 387 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: do it. But you know, in the case of Kakuchi, 388 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: in the case of Taylor Scott, they absolutely were and 389 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: we're dynamite for it. And you know, I don't want 390 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: to it's hard to say that we have a secret 391 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: sauce that we have a you know, the astros car wash. 392 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 3: Like you said, I feel like a lot of why 393 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 3: it works is because the guys we get are are 394 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: really open to hearing what we have to say, and 395 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: I think we say it in a way that you know, 396 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: we're not demanding or dictating or anything like that. 397 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: It's hey, this is what we got. It's your life, 398 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 4: it's your career. We want you to do good. 399 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: We want to win as a team, and we feel like, 400 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: you know, those things together can can really pay dividends 401 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: for both of us. 402 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: You mentioned, Uh, you mentioned earlier Forrest Whitley, a guy 403 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: that has been through a lot, has been through surgeries, 404 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: has been through he's overhauled his delivery, he's gone from 405 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: starting to the bullpen. You kind of said like this 406 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: is his year to do it. He's out of minor 407 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: league options, so if he doesn't make the club out 408 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: of camp, he's risks being exposed to waivers where I'm 409 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: not a scout or anything, but I'm pretty sure a 410 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: team would claim him just given how good the stuff is, 411 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 2: what the pedigree is. So this is a really pivotal 412 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: spring for Forrest Whitley. Josh as someone that has seen 413 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: him from the beginning, where do you think he is 414 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: right now? And you said he's in Houston, he's been training, 415 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: you know, locally. Have you gotten to see him this offseason? 416 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 2: And how does he look going into this camp? 417 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks great. He's thrown off the mountain head 418 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: full of times at Dykin Park. He did, I think, 419 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: do some training in Arizona for a portion of the 420 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: off season, but we've seen him a handful of times. 421 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: He's looked great, looks healthy, throwing hard. The name of 422 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 3: the game for him is is is he able to 423 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: land those dynamic breakers, both the slider and the curveball 424 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: and you know, use his secondaries to attack. He was 425 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: one of the best best relievers or best pitchers against 426 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: right handed hitters and in Triple A for a couple 427 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 3: of years now when he's been healthy. But it's about 428 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 3: landing those those dynamic spin weapons, and he's done a 429 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: pretty good job of it in training and bullpens, and 430 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: we hope that he's able to carry that forward in 431 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: the spring and have a good showing. Like you said, 432 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: he's out of minor league options. He's going to get 433 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: every opportunity to make our team. But when when opening 434 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 3: day comes around, we're gonna we're going to carry the 435 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 3: best the best thirteen pitchers when we when we start 436 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: the season, and anticipate him being one of them. But 437 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: he's got to earn it, so expect him to put 438 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: in the work and you know we'll see him hopefully 439 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: rise the occasion and snatch that roster spot. 440 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 441 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 5: So you know another guy that was acquired this off 442 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 5: scene is Hayden Wiznsky, who you know has done some starting, 443 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 5: some relieving. We we kind of talked after that trade 444 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 5: of reminded us a little bit of Brad Peacock, right, 445 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 5: being able to pitch multiple innings, whether as a reliever 446 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 5: or spots starter, you know, anything like that. What can 447 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 5: you tell us about, you know, from whether you've seen 448 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 5: a pitch or video or whatever, Like what does his 449 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 5: arsenal look like? Like, what are you excited to see? 450 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 5: And then maybe some things that you know you're excited 451 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 5: to work on with him and and what what can 452 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 5: fans expect from him this season. 453 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: He's a he's a great dude. He's also local Houston. 454 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: He's a he's living in Cyprus or Tomball area, so 455 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 3: he's been able to come in and train with us 456 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: at Diakin Park as well. You know what what excites 457 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: is about him really big time stuff. Throws strikes, two 458 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: things that don't often go together. He's got a like 459 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 3: a left turned slider that he throws really hard. It's 460 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: probably his best pitch. He's got a good extension in 461 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: his delivery. You can run the fastball up mid mid nineties, 462 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: upper nineties as what we feel is a really good 463 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 3: change up. Throws a little cutter. There's a two seamen 464 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: of four scene. You know, he's tough to hit when 465 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: he's on. You know, he's coming into camp and we're 466 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: playing on stretching amount to be a starter, and you 467 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 3: know he's he arrived down at the complex in West 468 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 3: Palm about the beginning of February and he's been getting acclimated. 469 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: And throwing down there and things are going really well 470 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: and we're excited to have him. 471 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: You said something there about extension and again I'm gonna 472 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: go kind of bigger picture here. Yusai Kakuci elite extension, Spencer, 473 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: Arraghatty elite extension. Hayden was Ansky obviously, like I know, 474 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: all teams covet certain things, and you know, for the 475 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: Ashers for a while it was high four seam it 476 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: was forcing him up, hoppy fastball, that sort of stuff. 477 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: We have seen a lot of guys lately in this 478 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: system that do have that extension that makes their stuff 479 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: play a little bit more. Is that am I onto 480 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: something that that's the next thing to be in vogue 481 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: or do we just get the three right pitchers that 482 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: we just talked about Extension right there? 483 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I mean, it's part of the equation. 484 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: It's it's part of what can make your stuff good. 485 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: You can have big extension and maybe a little bit 486 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 3: less stuff, and it helps it play up because the 487 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: hitter's got less time to react. It could indicate that 488 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: there's some deception and a delivery, but it could also 489 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: indicate that you're getting there in a way that's showing 490 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 3: something early. So you know, extension isn't always inherently good, 491 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 3: but it's part of the process. It's part of the 492 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: equation of you know, the delivery and certain things that 493 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: can provide uniqueness. You know, you see a guy like 494 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: you know that has big extension but throws low nineties. 495 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: But guys are late and swinging and missing at their fastball. 496 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 3: That's probably why. 497 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 4: And it again, it isn't always good, but it can 498 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 4: lead to your pitch having some uniqueness to it. 499 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 5: All Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask just a dumb 500 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 5: question here, so fair warning. This is from you know, 501 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 5: just this is a thought. Okay, when you're watching a 502 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 5: game from the dugout and you know, you're you're watching 503 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 5: your picture and say, your starters out there, how do 504 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 5: you know if they have it or not? Like, how 505 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 5: do you start to get the wheels going of you know? 506 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 5: Is it as simple as he's not locating this pitch 507 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 5: in the place that he normally does. It's not there? 508 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 5: Can you tell something mechanically? Are they just mentally off today? 509 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 5: Like what are you thinking about in the dugout that 510 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 5: is giving you those clues of when is it time 511 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 5: to go out there? When is it time to get 512 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: somebody up, you know, or maybe make an adjustment or 513 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 5: something like that. 514 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 4: It's definitely not a dumb question. 515 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: If there was an easy answer to it for me, 516 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 3: I think i'd, you know, I'd be way more valuable 517 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 3: than I am. You can get it, get ahead of 518 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: things a little better. But all the things, as you mentioned, 519 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: go into the the evaluation of any game. Hey, how 520 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 3: was this guy's pregame meeting, you know before? Did he 521 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: show up paying attention or was he not focused? 522 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: Was he late? 523 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: Was he not on time? 524 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: Did he handle all of his stuff in the weight room, 525 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: in the training room. Did he get out for his 526 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 3: throwing program on time? You know, everybody's a little bit 527 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: different with their routine, but you can tell some things. 528 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: If somebody's off from the start. You know, how was 529 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: their warm up before the game? 530 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: First starter? How was there you know, they're sitting the 531 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 4: dugout before heading out to the mound to do their 532 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: warm ups. How's their breathing? Are they taking enough? 533 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: Are they are they running the clock down to you know, 534 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 3: two three seconds before they're making a pitch or they 535 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 3: just doing rapid fire and not. 536 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 4: Catching their breath in between pitches. 537 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: Then you could look at things like velocity, things like 538 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 3: pitch movement, things like locations that are all indicators of 539 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: somebody maybe not having it or maybe getting tired or fatigued, 540 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: and would prompt a visit to the mound or a 541 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: conversation with Joe about. 542 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 4: Hey, we should think about getting so and so up. 543 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 4: There's always other things in the equation too, like, Okay, 544 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: how how do we use the bullpen in the last 545 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: three or four days? How taxed are they? 546 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: Can we go to somebody in the second or third 547 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: inning if this guy doesn't have it and get to 548 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: the end of the game and then have enough to 549 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: get through tomorrow, Like all those things are on the 550 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: forefront of my mind and go into the the evaluation 551 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 3: of starting that initiating that conversation with Joe about what 552 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 3: do we do if something's not going right? 553 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: Two non roster guys that I wanted to highlight just 554 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 2: because I think they could be two guys that impact 555 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: the club this year. Firsts Aj blue Ball, obviously a 556 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: really lanky, kind of kind of very gumby like guy 557 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 2: like skin tall. Skinny went to a small school Wisconsin, Milwaukee. 558 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: You guys have had a very good track record of 559 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: getting guys from schools I've never heard of and turned 560 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: them into big leaders. 561 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: So a little bit on him. And then also Miguel Uloa. 562 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if I pronounced his last name correctly, 563 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: but he struck out the world in Double A last year, 564 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: big fastball. From what I've read, command piece doesn't seem 565 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: to be there, but he seems like a guy that 566 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: if you guys can get him around the strike zone, 567 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: can move pretty quick. 568 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: So a word on both of those guys, blue Ball 569 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: and Yulola. 570 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, we saw. 571 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: We saw a j last year who was part of 572 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: Major league camp, made a couple outings for us before 573 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 3: he got sent down to get stretched up for his 574 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: minor league season. 575 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 4: Had had a pretty dark good season at at Triple 576 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 4: A sugar Land. You know, you pegged it. You know, tall, lanky, 577 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 4: got the prototypical right handed starter build. He started to 578 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 4: grow into a little more v low. 579 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: He's got the pitches to fill out the break chart. 580 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: To me, it's just about kind of getting them seasoned, 581 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: getting them to know himself and execute pitches at a 582 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: high level. I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, we 583 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: had a need at some point this year that that 584 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 3: if things are going right for him, he would he 585 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't be called on to fill that need, you know, 586 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: certainly checks the boxes of a pitching prospect, and he's 587 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: he's one of our best. Miguel Uyola. You did a 588 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: good job pronouncing his name there Chandler. You you pegged 589 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: him right too. You know, big time fastball has has 590 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: hop off the charts, and he throws it really hard. 591 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: You can throw it at the top of the zone. 592 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: You're right though, command can can be spray at times. 593 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 3: You know, his performance, while not in exact mirror of 594 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: is similar to Christian Havevier in the minor leagues. You know, 595 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: big time strikeout numbers, really tough to hit, really tough 596 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: to square up. It's just about, you know, how do 597 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: we get him in the zone and have some secondary 598 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: pitches that he can attack with. But another guy, one 599 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: of our top pitching prospects. He definitely fits the bill. 600 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: We're excited to see him in camp this year. Saw 601 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: him come over last year as part of our mini camp, 602 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: and I think he pitched in one game or warmed 603 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: up and didn't get in the game. But we're excited 604 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: to see him come in and hopefully get off to 605 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: a good start, have a good showing at the beginning 606 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: of camp, and then get stretched out ready to go 607 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 3: this year. 608 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 5: And I'm sure this is kind of like the mound 609 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 5: visit discussion, where if there's an easy answer to this, 610 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 5: everyone would already know it. But you you mentioned you 611 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 5: know there are pitchers who don't have the command that 612 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 5: you would like to have. What do you as a 613 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 5: pitching coach or what as an organization? How do you 614 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 5: improve command? 615 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: What? 616 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: You know? 617 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 5: What are the first couple of steps that you take 618 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 5: to try to maximize that command from a pitcher. 619 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: I'll say first off that you know, we feel real bad, 620 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: a lot better about improving pitch quality than we do 621 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 3: pitch command. It's a more difficult and maybe a little 622 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: more nuanced thing can tie to a whole lot of 623 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: different things that are going on a You look at 624 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: the delivery, Is the release point consistent? Are they moving 625 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: down the mound in a good efficient way? Could be mental? 626 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: You know, what are they thinking? Are they afraid of contact? 627 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: Or are they using their pitches in the right way? 628 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: Are they throwing Let's say they throw their slider in 629 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: zone a bunch of times, but they're only throwing the 630 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: lader ten percent of the time. Maybe you just need 631 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: to have them throw the slider more and that'll help 632 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: them get in the zone more and can attack and 633 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 3: get ahead of hitters. You know, for for guys with 634 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: command problems, you look at all those things like holistically 635 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: and decide in avenue to go, and sometimes it's about 636 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: them just getting to trust their stuff and getting to 637 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: trust letting it, letting it play in the zone. 638 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 4: And if a guy takes a rip and he hits it, 639 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 4: so be it. 640 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 3: We got defenders out there behind you that can hopefully 641 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: go make a play and and and trusting their stuff 642 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: can go a long way to helping guys attack in 643 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: the zone war. 644 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: I have a pretty generic question that that does. That 645 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 2: does reflect maybe on a couple guys on your staff. 646 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: Brian Bray. You seemed like he threw in every game 647 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: last year, and if he didn't throw in every game, 648 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: he threw in about half of them. Uh, Spencer Arigedty 649 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: and Renel Blanco last year both exceeded their career high 650 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: in workload innings wise. Hunter Brown threw more innings last 651 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: year than he has ever thrown. I think last year 652 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: we kind of fell into the trap of we kind 653 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: of were waiting on Ronel Blanco or Spencer Arraghetti to 654 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: just have that regression because of workload concerns and it 655 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: just never happened, which is obviously great for you guys. 656 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: Brad. We've now seen that. 657 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: Workload pile up the last couple of years and he's 658 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: handled it. I guess, in general, what are you what 659 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: is your and maybe the organization's philosophy when you're looking 660 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: at guys that. 661 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: Are approaching or have approached workloads. 662 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: That they hadn't done before, and what was the off 663 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: seasons for the Are the off seasons for those guys 664 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: maybe any different than the pitcher like a Verlander say 665 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: that that is just so accustomed to having that volume 666 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: of innings every year. 667 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we look at it an individual way. 668 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: All the guys that you mentioned are all very physical, big. 669 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 4: Strong. 670 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: We trust their work ethic, they stay on top of 671 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 3: things very very well. But we're definitely aware that that 672 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 3: inning and pitches can pile up on guys, and you know, 673 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: we try and pull the reins where we could where 674 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: we can. Last year during the season, you know, certainly 675 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: lessened the in between start workload with Spencer and with 676 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: Ronell due to their you know, the innings piling up 677 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 3: on them. We're definitely aware of Brian Abrad who's you know, 678 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: appearance count and how many times we got him up. 679 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: He's a huge part of our bullpen and anticipate him 680 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: doing the same this year. But like like I mentioned, 681 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: all all of those guys are physical, they're hard workers, 682 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: and you know they've done everything they can to to 683 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: post and stay on the field and be ready to go. 684 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: They're off seasons. I don't want to say we're lessened 685 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,239 Speaker 3: in any way. I want you know Renel Blanco has 686 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: been a perennial contributor for the Dominican Winter League. 687 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: He said, hey, man, I don't know if that's a 688 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 4: great idea this year. I know you know you're you're a. 689 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: Legend in winter ball down there in the dr but 690 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: you just pile up a bunch of innings and we 691 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: hope you know you're you're going to do the same 692 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 3: force next year, come in to camp ready to go. 693 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: So I think it's it was good that that he 694 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: was able to to not go do that and tax 695 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: his arm a little further in the winner. But you know, 696 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 3: I don't think we were going into the season with 697 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 3: any limitations. 698 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: For those guys. But we are always going to try 699 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 4: and be smart and stay on top of anything that 700 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 4: can that can you know, hamper us as we get 701 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: deeper into the season, you. 702 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 5: Know, speaking of of workload, you know, there's a guy 703 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 5: that I think everybody here would be really excited to 704 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 5: see on a big ling mount again, and that's Lance 705 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 5: mc colors. And I know we've seen some video of 706 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 5: him thrown off the mound and you know, starting to 707 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 5: ramp back up. What what does it mean to have 708 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 5: him back, you know, if he's able to get there, 709 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 5: and what does he need to do? Uh, you know, 710 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 5: where is he at as far as being ready for 711 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 5: the season. What what can we expect that you know, 712 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 5: he would be able to contribute maybe innings wise, best 713 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 5: case scenario, that kind of stuff for the team this year. 714 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, He's had had a great offseason, started ramping up 715 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: his throwing November has progressed very very well. Has thrown 716 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 3: off the mount a handful of times. He's going to 717 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 3: do the same as we get into camp and get started. 718 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: You know, for him, it's about checking the box of 719 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: can we increase the intensity and get to where he's 720 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: accustomed to pitching against major league hitters and and and 721 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 3: everything hold up. You know, we're cautiously optimistic anticipate him 722 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 3: continuing his progression during camp. Don't want to say we're 723 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: not going to see him in any spring games, but 724 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: don't want to put a time limit or rush him. 725 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 3: It's about, you know, getting him feeling good, but feeling 726 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 3: he can step on the gas and let his pitches play. 727 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: And I think we're trending in that direction, which has 728 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: been really really good. Like I said, cautiously optimistic. 729 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 5: You know, he. 730 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 3: He's feeling really good and and excited to get started 731 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 3: here next week and and and see when it comes. 732 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 4: It's going to be a day to day discussion. 733 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 3: Again, don't want to put a time limit on it 734 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 3: and and force the issue here, but it would mean 735 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 3: a ton to get him back. You know, the guy, 736 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: the guy just just bleeds astros and has put in 737 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 3: a ton of work the last few years. And what 738 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: a lot of people don't know is what goes in 739 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 3: behind the scenes and and how frustrating and disappointing it 740 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 3: can be when things kind of jump up and snap 741 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: at you and you're not able to go out there 742 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: and hear your name called to. 743 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 4: Pitch for the team you love and for the city 744 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 4: that you. 745 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 3: Live in, and you know, I anticipate him getting back 746 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 3: there and excited to see it when it happens. 747 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: I feel bad that this is going to be the 748 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: last question, and I feel bad that it's taken us 749 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: thirty five minutes to mention Fromber's name. Fromber the now, 750 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 2: you know, I think he's been the ace of this 751 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: staff the last couple of years, but with Justin Verlander 752 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: on the team, it's kind of hard to call anyone 753 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 2: else the ace of a staff when Verlanders there. Verlander's gone. 754 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: H This is Fromber's rotation. This is from I don't 755 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: want to say it's his pitching staff, but I feel 756 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 2: like you guys are going to go as Fromber goes. 757 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 2: And this is a big year for him personally as well. 758 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 2: It's his platform year. He I'm sure if he didn't see, 759 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure someone told him what Max Freed got in 760 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 2: free agency this year is another high performing left handed pitcher, 761 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 2: so he could be in he could be about eleven 762 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: months away from that kind of payday. Josh, how do 763 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: you think Fromber will handle that pressure? And what do 764 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 2: you guys This is a weird question to ask about Fromber, 765 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: but what do you guys expect from him going into 766 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: this season a guy that is going to be, you know, 767 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 2: workload wise, is going to take on the same amount 768 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: of workload, but it's going to mean a lot. 769 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: More every time fromber Bell does goes in the mound. 770 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 4: This year, Yeah, for sure, big year for him. We 771 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 4: need him. We've needed him since twenty twenty. 772 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: He stepped up big time there at the end of 773 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 3: of the COVID shortened season and really hadn't looked back. 774 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 3: You want to talk about workload piling up, you know, 775 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 3: we've shoveled it on this guy's shoulders and he's just answered. 776 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 3: Every year is a huge part of our of our team, 777 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 3: of our staff. Expect him to come in focused and 778 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 3: dedicated to to putting up a great platform here. And 779 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: that's our expectations is, Hey, we're gonna lean on this guy, 780 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 3: you know, every fifth or sixth day to to do 781 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 3: what he does and and and throw the big boar 782 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 3: and sinker and the and the curve ball that that 783 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 3: is tough to hit, and mix in some change ups 784 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 3: and you know, expect him to be the ace of 785 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 3: this staff. We feel real good about him taking the 786 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 3: ball and expect him to uh to put in the 787 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 3: work to to post for us. 788 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 2: And I don't want to play the role of Joe Aspata, 789 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: but I presume if everything goes to plan, Frombervell Does, 790 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: we'll take the mound at Dyke and Park in late 791 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 2: March against uh Juan Soto and the New York Mets. 792 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 2: Uh perhaps a opening day, but surely during that series 793 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: we'll see Frombervell Does at some point and uh, you 794 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 2: guys are going to start the road to that start 795 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 2: the road to opening day this week. 796 00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: Josh. 797 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: We can't thank you enough for taking time to go through, 798 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: you know, answer our dumb questions, go through a lot 799 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 2: of pictures that you know. 800 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: I didn't want to come on here and ask you 801 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: about from or mccolors. 802 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: We wanted to get insight on some guys that you know, 803 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: maybe the general public haven't seen pitch a lot. So 804 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: we really appreciate your time, appreciate your insight, and appreciate 805 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: you taking some time right before pitchers and catchers report 806 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: to analyze all this with us. 807 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 4: Sure thing, guys, and we did we did. 808 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 3: I know you probably didn't want to bring up this 809 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 3: person's name, but Hunter Brown had a really good. 810 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 5: Year lest Yeah, and uh, you know everything for me 811 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 5: not to ask you about it for. 812 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, when we get started. But thank you guys for 813 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 4: having me on. 814 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 3: And I'm sure i'll see you guys down in West 815 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: Palm or in Houston once we get cracked up. 816 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 817 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: Hunter Brown will also be pitching in that Mets series 818 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: at some point with Fromberveldez against the against the Mets ligneup. 819 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: We'll be there to to write about it, report about it, 820 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: analyze and you can stick with Crush City Territory twice 821 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 2: a week during training then when that regular season starts, 822 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 2: three times a week. Rate and review us on Apple, 823 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: subscribe on YouTube, and keep the feedback coming. We've got 824 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 2: some great feedback on the Joe Aspata episode that went 825 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: live today, and I'm sure everyone will feel the same 826 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 2: about listening to Josh Miller break down the Ashers pitching staff. 827 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 1: So we'll see you soon, guys. 828 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 2: We get to West Palm Beach in the next couple 829 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: of days and we'll be live broadcasting from West Palm 830 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: see it. 831 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: Bye.