1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: So where did that phrase come from? 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: Snow? From me shoveling snow as a kid, I became 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: the snow man. I'm an entity of snow, like I 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: got snow pat too straight across my body. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? I'm peanut to him? 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 3: And this is the NFL Player's Second Act podcast and 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: with me as always my choice co host, mister Roman Arbor. 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: What's up baby? 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: What was having a peanut? 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: Really excited about this episode our next guest why because 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 3: he's not a former player, but he is a current 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: player that's making all kinds of headlines in the NFL 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: right now. So really excited to jop and jump into 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: his story and get to hear about his lifestyle. 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: He's only the second active player that we've actually had 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: on the podcast. He's a twenty seventeen second round draft pick. 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: He's at a Temple out of Temple. He's a pro bowler. 19 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: How many times four? There you go? 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's this year's water Man of the Year nominee 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: for the Bills. Ladies, gentlemen, please welcome Dion Doggers to 22 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: the podcast. 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: You guys shot him in the back. Appreciate I see 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: you right there. 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I'll be honest. 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: You know, Diann, you are the first guy in this, uh, 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: this this little journey of podcasting that we've been doing recently, 28 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: like this this seasons that uh brought his own crowd, 29 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 3: and I appreciate that, you know, I mean shot them 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: boys out in the back man man. 31 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I always I always got a nice little crew, 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: working crew. Nick. He does uh my social content. Okay, 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: I don't like to call him a camera man. He's 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: good with his I can't say tools. He's good with 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: his tools. And then and then and then and then Tony. Uh, 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: he's he's my running gun. That's that's one of my 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: best friends. And he helps me with everything little that 38 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: comes up very quick and even in some of these meetings, 39 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: like he's there as another set of eyes and ears. 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: And I've been needing a lot quick like yo, I 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: got a run, like upstairs, can you go downstairs and 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: grab me a gatorade? Where I go upstairs and grab 43 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: a T shirt? Boom, Tony goes that way, I go 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: this way. We meet the middle. We're back on to 45 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: our course. And uh, I'll be like needing that you know, 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: everything I'm doing It's not just me that you guys 47 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: see like sitting here. You know, I invest in myself 48 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: and I have a team of people that for sure 49 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: helped me every step o the way. 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: That's something new that we never really had to do. 51 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: As far as like the social content, you didn't. You 52 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: didn't have at homies too, But I just went smart 53 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: enough to like put the ass to work. 54 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You was just hanging You 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: smarter than me, just crazy. We was just kicking it. 56 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's much better to do it how you're 57 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: doing it. Have these been your boy since like day one? 58 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: Like my guys was always from like high school, my 59 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: boy from first grade, and then like I had one 60 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: or two from college, with most of all these my 61 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: people from day one. 62 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: That's a good question, and I've never been asked on 63 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: camera to answer this question, Tony. These are not my 64 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: guys from day one, okay, but they are my guys 65 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: from day one when they heard my journey of where 66 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: I was trying to go. And I respected that just 67 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: as much as I respected my guys that have the 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: years in time instead of the guys that have the 69 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: mental time of direction. And like my guys from back home. 70 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, and I hope that Mike does see this. 71 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: Like I told Mike, Rubin Youovannie, look, I'm on a 72 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 2: different mission and you could either come along. You guys 73 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: are already doing this stuff. You already do your camera work, 74 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: you already invest in your computer skills. Ruben, Robbie, you're 75 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: the officer, You're the enforcer, You're the protection. And Vonnie 76 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: my running gun. Right, So like Vine when there was 77 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: that at remember Mike, Mike was Vine famous, and I 78 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: was like, Mike, you can do this, but also if 79 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: you want, I can take you around. You could be 80 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: and with me and you can help me do my 81 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: social And he liked it at first, but he didn't 82 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: really take it as serious as I needed him to, 83 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: because you know, he's a friend. It's a little cushionaire 84 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: and it's just different. And then you know, Ruben, he 85 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: he was on his own path. And I was like, cool, like, 86 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: I can't knock you. This is my mission. The just 87 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: don't have to be yours. I'm gonna still love you 88 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: no matter what. But then I told Tone, I told Nick, 89 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: I told Andy, I told aj that I was like, look, bro, 90 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: like that time is now and if y'all are on board, cool, 91 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: let's sign these contracts and let's get to it. And 92 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: it's going to be hard. It's going to be hard 93 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: because what I'm trying to do has never been done. 94 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: And as a big guy, then you know, I separate 95 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: my life with skinnies and bigs, right, and out of 96 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: respecting there's skinnies and then there's bigs. You have linemen, 97 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: you have skill position. That's it. There ain't no mediums. 98 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: You either got a six pack or you got a stomach. Right, 99 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: the big boys got stomachs. The skinny boys got six packs. 100 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: As simple as that. Right, y'all are the four to 101 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: four guys. We're the big you know, girls just want 102 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: to cuddle, right, It's just what it is. Yeah, And 103 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: my guys understand my mission. And I just speak how 104 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: I speak and this is duk, but yeah, this is me. 105 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: I love it. 106 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: No, No no dollar skinnies for sure, No gallar the 107 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: four fours, you know, jumping up in the air, cart 108 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: wheels and catching pigs and doing all type of cool. Yeah, 109 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: talk about it, talk about the big one sweat. 110 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: I just saying they got it all right, So we'll 111 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: get into a little bit of football because I want 112 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: to come back to some other stuff too. 113 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: I feel you can joke and laugh. 114 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: How'd you feel about Josh Allen winning the MVP? Come 115 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: on now, because I want to know your opinion. Everybody's 116 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: going to have an opinion about this topic. 117 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I almost cry on on on the stage. I 118 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: almost cried. And I say that with a lot of truth, 119 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: you know, because me as a man, I'm emotional with 120 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: the stuff that I love. I'm very invested into my people, 121 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: especially my quarterback. Me as a left tackle, I call 122 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: myself LT one. I'm the best left tackle in the 123 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: NFL right hands down. Trent being hurt opened up the 124 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: door for a lot of other people to show right. 125 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: And I respect big big Trent. That's still in Big Homie. 126 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: He'll be back and then he'll be king again. But 127 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: you know, somebody had to take that place. And I'm 128 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: telling you that's what I had my mission on. If 129 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 2: the opportunity is here, I'm shooting for it. But for Josh, 130 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: it was it was it was just something that like 131 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: how much longer do we have to wait for this? 132 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: Like every year and we talk about this kid's seventeen 133 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: and Josh Allen is and Josh Allen that Oh my gosh, 134 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: he does it again. He jumps over this guy. He's 135 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: he's out passing everybody. He has more rushing touchdowns than 136 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: the leading rusher. And it's just over and over and 137 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: over and over and over. And then you got his 138 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: big boys that have his back, you know. And we've 139 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: been putting on this battle for years this kid. Yeah, 140 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: and you know, Josh is in the year going in 141 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: the year eight now, and I've seen this kid grow 142 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: and grow and grow and grow and grow and him 143 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: act like that, oh I don't care about that award 144 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: dah lah lah lah. But I'm looking at him in 145 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: his face like I protect his mind side, like I know, 146 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: and when you line or if you're just trying to 147 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: brush it off, and he's like, yeah, bro, I don't care. 148 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: My MVP is here, but he want that trophy and 149 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: he got that validation. Yeah, it's the validation. 150 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: Does this thing a little less now, even though you 151 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: know y'all lost Kansas City. 152 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: I don't know it's sting, just as that's trophy don't 153 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: mean nothing now. Trophy means some of that troby, don't 154 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: I don't got to ring on my finger Josh got 155 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: to ring on his and Josh knows that that's an 156 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: individual award. Yeah, that's Josh and Josh right, he has 157 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: players album, but that's Josh Allen. Yeah right. As a team, 158 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: which what we are, we failed, Yeah, simple as that. 159 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: And next year is another year. 160 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you change that narrative? The Chiefs just 161 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: always just. 162 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: Just find a way to beat Buffalo. I don't know 163 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: how they show up, it's just what it is. You 164 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: guys beat him in the regular season a couple of 165 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: years ago, and now it's like, how do you change 166 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: that narrative? What's the next step? You know, because that's 167 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: what we're constantly trying to do. 168 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: You know, that's a great question, you know, but it's 169 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: so simple to answer. Okay, given what you think, the 170 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: answer is win. It's got to win, bron Yeah, simble 171 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: as that, right. You don't got to do more sprints, 172 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: you don't got to do more more more more, all 173 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: going to work out an hour early, just win behind 174 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: the freaking way to win the game. Yeah, you know, 175 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: just find a way. This ain't working, Tretis, If that 176 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: ain't working, Tretis, find a way to win. 177 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: Man to win it all. I was fortunate enough to 178 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: do that one time. Dann bro you got to be 179 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: so lucky. You gotta be lucky. You gotta be really good, 180 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: stars gotta you gotta know you've all got a balance 181 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: your way. Yeah, and you know you got to play 182 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: well in the biggest moments. You know, the players that 183 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: you don't even think have make a play, they have 184 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,359 Speaker 3: end up making that play. 185 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's all those. 186 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: Things kind of encapsulated in one and it's so hard 187 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: to do. 188 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 189 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: And then we only get to have one one team 190 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: a year. That's the thing about it all thirty other 191 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: thirty one other teams, Losers, losers, losers. 192 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: Talk about talk about making Pro Bowl. 193 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 2: It's it's hard to be consistent, yeah, or it's hard 194 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: to be consistent in the mind, and then other things 195 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: throw you off track, like an injury, a death in 196 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: the family, a sickness to illness. There's a lot of 197 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: things that and that go on through the course of 198 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: a season. But for myself, you know, what I've learned 199 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: is the more I invest in myself, the true version 200 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: continues to pour out and it becomes easier. It becomes 201 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: easier over time, and I just stick to the same script. 202 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: I stick to the same script. My off season is 203 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: what it is. I'm blessed. I do the Pro Bowl, 204 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: I do the Super Bowl, I go home. I love 205 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 2: all my family and then I get right to it. 206 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: And then I just I walk. I walk like my 207 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: cheek code as I walk like five to seven miles 208 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: a day. I put a sweatback on, I put a 209 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: hoodie on in South Florida. And if I even force 210 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: and my guys to walk, because it's therapy, it's mental, 211 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: it's releasing. It's a time to push yourself, but also 212 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: get away right and we just walk. If we start 213 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: talking on our walk, we talk. Most of the time, 214 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: we don't talk, and we just breathe and we walk. 215 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,479 Speaker 2: Just get the mission done and we come back. We refresh. 216 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: I might eat like two salads a day, and then 217 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: I box, and then I box and then same and 218 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: routine over and over in the OTAs and camp and 219 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: then it just goes right through it and I try 220 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: my best to stay healthy because making the fourth consecutive PROBO, 221 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 2: you have to be available for your team. That's the 222 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: number one thing. You have to be available, and we're 223 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: being available. You have to perform at the level of 224 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: expected of your availability and some and you know Doc 225 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: is just gonna be dark. I speaking a third person, 226 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: and I'm just me, you know, I'm just. 227 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: When did I click for you? When did that change? 228 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 3: When did you realize that, like, oh, I need to 229 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: invest more of me and love on my family, be 230 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: available for my team. 231 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: I would say maybe after I had my son. So 232 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: if I have my daughter a year two, so maybe 233 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: going in the year contract year, Yeah, I love it. 234 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: I would say contract year definitely put you in you know, 235 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: eye opening life journey street because you're like Wall I 236 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 2: can cross the threshold of becoming the point of the 237 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: point one percent in the NFL because I have the 238 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: opportunity to even call it contract year, and I can 239 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: get a big contract because everybody gets to the contract 240 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: year and they know I'm probably not gonna get it. 241 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: Da da da da da. But when you're up for 242 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: contract year, and you know, shoot, if I had to 243 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: handle my business, it's cash in time to change. So 244 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: I was like, cool, let's see how how this goes 245 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: if I just invest a little bit more in myself. 246 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: And it's been working. It's been working. 247 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: You went to your first Pro Bowl that you are 248 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 3: so so that's exactly how mine went it. I want 249 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: to know, once you go to how much and you 250 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: can speak to this, how much easier is it to 251 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: go to a pro Bowl after you've already been, Because 252 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: I feel like once you get in, once you look 253 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: you in, that's what you start going. And now everybody 254 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 3: knows who you are. You know, I thought you was 255 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: just a light skinned brother feeling yourself. But I love 256 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: the third person, like I love that, like this is 257 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: just this is. 258 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: You and it's just me. Yeah, and from afar you 259 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: could think whatever, but when you get the chance to talk, 260 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: you'll see it. It's just I am a true version 261 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: of myself. I call myself a skinny guy trapped in 262 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: a big guy body. I don't move like a big guy. 263 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: I don't act like a big guy. I call myself 264 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: a hybrid, which is really just big and skinny. But 265 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: I'm the hybrid. I'm my own entity, right and I 266 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: live by that. And you know, like y'all are dressed 267 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: stickly different, like y'all are elites, like elites out of 268 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: the elites, Like I have zero points zero zero one 269 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: percent tattooed on my end because I'm on my third 270 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: deal right, I'm not the point percent. I'm not the 271 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: when you like, you get into the league and then 272 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: you get you get your deal with everybody's like, get 273 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: your second deal, get your second deal. You get your 274 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: second deal, and they're like, but listen, if you really 275 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: want to be that, you get your third deal, no doubt, 276 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: you know. And so that's that's where I'm an. I'm 277 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: just being man. I'm just done. 278 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: I think I got three deals. You got three deals. 279 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: I got three DALs. 280 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we have three deals. 281 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: All right. 282 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: So I want to talk about which all you've done 283 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: in the community in Buffalo serving those people. You've been 284 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: up there your whole career and now you were you 285 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: were the Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee nominee. 286 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: And how's that feel to be represented for your team? 287 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 3: And not only that, but like do your kind of 288 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: mouthpiece for your team? Josh Allen, he doesn't talk, but 289 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: he's a quarterback, But like you are the personality that 290 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 3: I like to see after games and talking about different things. 291 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: You you show case. You stand out because you are 292 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: a big guy that has personality. 293 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. So to answer the question, first, it's an honor 294 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: to be even in the voice conversation of the other 295 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: thirty ones outside of me, which could be the thirty second. 296 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: It's cool to be, you know, in the front lines 297 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: in my community, really being that person for the people, 298 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: because a lot of people would say, oh, like they 299 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: just do community stuff, but it's damn they're harder than 300 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: playing ball. It's damn they're harder because in the community, 301 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: I choose to give the people my true version of myself. 302 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: And like, you know, like you guys are not performing, 303 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: but you guys are performing. People are watching you. You 304 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: ain't about to be like how like how you are 305 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: in the kitchen and just chilling, like you're going to 306 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: be a certain level, right, So when you go into 307 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: the community, you have to give them that. And I 308 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: want to give everybody what they see of me, Yeah, 309 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: because that's what they're attaching to. So all that energy 310 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: that I have, I give it to them when I 311 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: see them. And you know, that energy is taxing, Like 312 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: it's taxing to be hydrated and to be like fueled 313 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: and to have the right food in your system and 314 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: to be right and with God that day and to 315 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: have everything right and then to be in the community 316 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: Monday after meetings, after a win or loss. Tuesday, full day, 317 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: and then Friday, because it's fast. Friday, you're out the 318 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: second half of the day in the community, and then 319 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: Saturday comes you decompress, and then Sunday is game day. 320 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: And to do it consistently, over and over and over 321 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: and over and over again. How I see it, It's 322 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: just you have to be organic, you have to be 323 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: your true self, and you can't fake it because if 324 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: you fake it, you know you'll get eaten alive and 325 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: nobody will really attach to you. So I just give 326 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: them the true version of me and it usually works. 327 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: And talk about to be that person in the community 328 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: of which is a different community for those that don't know, 329 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: Buffalo is different. 330 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: What's different about Buffalo? Why you said like that? 331 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: Because Buffalo is Buffalo is different. 332 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: But then there before I want you, I want you 333 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: to explain who, Like I've been to I've been in 334 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: the facility, I've been inside those walls. 335 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: I haven't been in the basilio. Yeah, I've only been 336 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: driving in the neighborhood. 337 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, I see a stadium, like, yeah, 338 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: it is different, you know, like it's like Green Bay 339 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: Probably no, no, for sure, but the only. 340 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: Thing about Buffalo is like I mean, like you think 341 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: about and I'm gonna talk about the fans first that 342 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: like the Buffalo fans like they shoot each other with 343 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: catching it mustard. It's true. Cold hot exactly cold hot, 344 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: sunny cold, it don't matter. There's tables jumping through tables 345 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: on fire, jumping off of the top of school buses 346 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: onto the table and then usually miss right like and 347 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: then not care and get up and be like and 348 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: then go right to the hospital and they come into 349 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: the game or whatever. But then, but like, I think 350 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: that the true difference from the people in Buffalo is 351 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 2: not the bills is all they have. But the bills 352 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: is like the only bit of energy, surge of positivity 353 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 2: that they have, right Like we have the bandness, we 354 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: have the Sabers, that's they are great as well. But 355 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: the bills is the is the is the head sphere 356 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: of the energy in Buffalo. When we win, the city 357 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: is so happy. They're like, oh my gosh, Like so 358 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: many people came in just to buy a coffee. Everybody 359 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: was go bills, go bills. 360 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: We did it. 361 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: We did it. Everybody's happy. And the people there are 362 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: truly organic. They are truly organic and it's real. And 363 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: I know with playing football we get a different side 364 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: of some of the people, but I'm honored to be 365 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: on the side that I'm on and those people treat 366 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: my family, my kids, my friends with respect every time, 367 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: but they see them and that just shows the type 368 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: of character that these people have. And I wouldn't want 369 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: to play for any other fan base or be a 370 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: part of any other community because they've done definitely made 371 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: the big guy feel feel like it's skinny. 372 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 3: I've seen that with Buffalo, I've seen that with Green Bay, 373 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: I've seen that with Chicago Saints. Like you, you find 374 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: these teams and despite what y'all are doing, win, lose, 375 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: a draw the community like they still love you, like 376 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: they you need fans like that. That's what makes it. 377 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: That's what makes the NFL so special. And I didn't 378 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: really truly get to realize or see that until I 379 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: went to IR and I went to I went tailgating 380 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: and I get it with some fans and I was like. 381 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 1: Yo, this is you got up here at five o'clock 382 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: to cook this brisket. 383 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 2: All day, all day, all day. 384 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: And I appreciated it. 385 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate the time that they put in and play 386 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: a game. Like you got to appreciate that. 387 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: Man, you're talking about five am in Buffalo, they pull 388 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: up on the trailers three four days before the game. 389 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: Thursday night, you pull out the stadium and you know 390 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: the stadium is like how you said, in the community. 391 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's in the community. So you come out 392 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: the long driveway and you know, if we're in the 393 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 2: facility late, maybe say we get out the building. Let's 394 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: say six o'clock. You pull up. You look on your left, 395 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: that first lot that's right there. You might have six 396 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: or seven RVs ready. The lots straight across is starting 397 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: to fill up. And what you see like people start 398 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: like starting to make campfires and have like their little 399 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: blue stroll lights and all types of stuff. You're like, 400 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: all right, head they come. And then by that next morning, 401 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: oh yeah, they are out there talking about who's eating pancakes. 402 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: It's a full community. Everybody is passing eggs and passing bread, 403 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: and it's like, dag, like this is this is cool? 404 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: Like when I'm done, I'm coming to have a meal. 405 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 3: You know, hey, man, if you ain't never done it, 406 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: and I hope you don't get to do it, by 407 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: doing doing my way going on ir But if you 408 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: get a chance to do it, man, it is it 409 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: is an awesome experience. 410 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: We're going to take a short break and we'll be 411 00:19:59,680 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: right back. 412 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: I do want to talk about the LT one the shirt. 413 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 3: I know you got your own clothing brand or no 414 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: snowboard right. 415 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: Snow brand, got goggles, I got T shirts, I got skateboards. 416 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: What do you grow up skateboarding longboarding? 417 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: I grew up longboarding a little longer. I had a 418 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: bambook like. 419 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: You kind of got that. 420 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: ALI longboards don't really Ali talk about on the short board. 421 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: I don't touch the short boards. The short boards of 422 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: wood bigger guys. I don't go up and come down 423 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: because I'll break the board. 424 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: And he's not a skinny. 425 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: He's a hybrid, and hybrids figure out how to do 426 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: skinny stuff better. I have a bamboo board. Now, listen, 427 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: a bamboo board on a long board, you can bounce 428 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: up and down. The force it has has a little 429 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: bit of yeah. Yeah, that shirt is yeah, the material 430 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: is yeah, it's almost elastic. Yeah, it's almost like the skateboards. 431 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: The landing is just too hard. I got you. Nikki 432 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: is actually a skateboarder. Gotcha the skinny I'm along match. 433 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: So if I want to buy some of your stuff, 434 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: order I go. 435 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 2: Look. 436 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: I want you looking at this camera right then they 437 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: can get it. 438 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: Just Snowstore, dot com, Man s H N O W 439 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: S T O r E dot com and Simple. I 440 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: have a couple of things on there. One of my 441 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: most recent ones was goggles. I released goggles because I 442 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: put my goggles on in one of the games and 443 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: it went viral and the people loved it. And I 444 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: have hats. I got all types of stuff. Bro, you 445 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: already snow university stuff Before every broadcast, like when they're 446 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: like Dion Dawkins Temple University, I say, Dion Dawkins, you 447 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: already snow University. 448 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: You know I've heard that. So where did that phrase 449 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: come from? 450 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: Snow? From me shoveling snow as a kid, I became 451 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: the snow man. I'm an entity of snow. Like. I 452 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: got snow tattoo git across my body right, snow like 453 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: that's me. When I was younger, I would wait for 454 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: the cold days from Jersey right like. I'm not an 455 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: old head, but I ain't a young I was born in 456 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: ninety four so I was right, getting a little bit 457 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: of the ogs to like the new wave stuff. Two 458 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: thousands is way different from the nineties. It's very drastic, 459 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: drastic difference. And we didn't have iPhones. So when the 460 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: landline phone, if you don't know what a landline phone is, 461 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: the phone is hooked up to the house. Landline's attached 462 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: to your house because people don't know, yeh you, they 463 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 2: don't know that. So when you pull the phone off, 464 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: you could pick the phone up, your sister could be 465 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: on the phone. Get off the phone. I'm on the phone, right. 466 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: So if we had a rumor that there was going 467 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: to be a snow day, the phone would ring, usually 468 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: around five o'clock. And if there was a rumor around 469 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: school that there was going to be school canceled, you 470 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: knew it was a lot of snow coming. So I 471 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: would wait, like, shoot, well, if we're gonna get canceled school, 472 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: we're either watching the news to see if our name 473 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: comes up on the bottom of the ticker. You're on 474 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: waiting for the landline phone just to call. But if 475 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: the phone ring, it's like, oh, it could be could 476 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: be Grandma Candy Cane, or could be Antecla or it 477 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: could be the school on an automated call. So if 478 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: the school call I knew there was going to be 479 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 2: a lot of snow, I would set my alarms ridiculously 480 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: early because the adults still had to go to work 481 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: while the kids got the off day. So I would 482 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: set my alarm around five thirty. I would wait. I 483 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: would wake up, brush, brush my teeth quick. I would 484 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: have all my stuff laid out, put my socks on. 485 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: I would have a bag. I would have an extra 486 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: pair of socks in my bag, an extra pair of gloves, 487 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: maybe an extra thermal just in case if I got 488 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: overwet and I will walk, I will walk to the 489 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: nicer part of Rawick. It was Clark and Cranford. So 490 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: if I went this way, I got to Clark and 491 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: then it bears left. It goes to Cranford, and that's 492 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: where like the people that had the money would have 493 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: the money. Like I wasn't asking my neighbor because he 494 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: would have been like no, But when I go to 495 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 2: Cranford and Clark, they would say, sure, I'll give you 496 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: thirty dollars to shovel my driveway. And I would ask 497 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: if they wanted their driveway their walkway, and if the 498 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: people felt safe, if they had to go to work, 499 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: I would ask him if they wanted their car removed 500 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: and with the snow, and if they had to leave, 501 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: I would offer them if they want me to start 502 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: their car so when they get out, their car is warm. 503 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: And with me being the business mind and the guy 504 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: that was always thinking ahead, I was like like who 505 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: am I? Like, oh, I'm just a worker. I had 506 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 2: business cards like I was doing. I took a graphics 507 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: arts class in high school just so I can make 508 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: business cards. So when I went out, I would thank 509 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: you here, take this next time, just call me so 510 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: I don't have to knock and guess. Right. So I 511 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 2: was saving time and I became a snowman because I 512 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: was like, who am I? Who was outside in the snow? 513 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: A shnowman is built, he sits on the front lawn. 514 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: He's out there. He's big, he's strong, and he has 515 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 2: a statement and he draws attention. Who is this guy? Right? 516 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: So I was like, cool, I can't be the snow man, 517 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: so shoot, I'll be the shnowman. So I just added 518 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: an H in it. Now I became a snowman. And 519 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: then look I got drafted a buffalo. I'm like, look 520 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: at you, and then I was like, cool, let's start 521 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: this journey. And you know, I've been calling myself the 522 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: Snowman since high school. It carried me all the way 523 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: through college. I've been saying, you're already snowing now you 524 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: know LT one. 525 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: All right, So have you gotten any advice from any 526 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: other because you've seen very entrepreneurial. Clearly you started this early. 527 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: You have entrepreneurial myset and that's just who you are. 528 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 3: Have you got any other advice from any other former players? 529 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: NFL vets about working on your second act while continue 530 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 3: to play in your first act. 531 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: Nobody ever really told me this, but they told me 532 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 2: this without just saying that. Yeah, Like I had to 533 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: figure out, like, oh, this is what he was saying. 534 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: Within that is, don't be dumb and understand the moment 535 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: that you're in. You're the most relevant while you have 536 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 2: the jersey and the helmet on, no matter what, Yeah, 537 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: no matter what. You could be the best player in 538 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: the world while your jersey is on. Knock on every door, 539 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: were possible that you would like to see what's on 540 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: the other side, And That's where I'm at. You know, 541 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: a lot of guys are like, oh, I'll get to 542 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: that when I'm done playing. By that point, bro, it's 543 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: over with. It's over with. It's over with. So you 544 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: have to understand the now and that you're in And 545 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: the only way that the rest will work is if 546 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 2: you are the true version of yourself. You have to 547 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: be the true version of yourself. The true version will 548 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: set you free. Yeah, and it'll get you wherever you 549 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: want to go, wherever you choose you want to be, 550 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: it'll be there if you just treat yourself with respect 551 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: and be your true version. Now. 552 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: I know Peanuts got one more after this, but I gotta, 553 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: we gotta address this because you violated. 554 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: The code earlier. 555 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: No, no, no, the big Man code, the big Man 556 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 3: down South code. You got to you got it. You 557 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: didn't have one earlier, you. 558 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: Know, Man, you just it's not used. 559 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: It is he down here Comb, It's It's just I 560 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: did violate. I violated myself to all the big guys. 561 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: But I'm sorry, bro, because because I should have I 562 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: should have been prepared. I should have been prepared. Yes, 563 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: but leaving I had a meeting at nine thirty, Okay, 564 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: I go downstairs around nine oh five. I'm like, I'm 565 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: gonna call it uber nine oh five. It's only around 566 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: the corner, realistic at least two point five miles away. Cool, 567 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: it's right here. I'm gonna get there. I get downstairs, 568 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: I called an uber. Uber says it won't be here 569 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: until fourteen minutes. 570 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's right, you can you can walk that. 571 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I could just walk that, but you know, 572 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: I ain't want to be sweaty or nothing like that. 573 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: I like to be calm, cool and collect. And I 574 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: said cool tone and Nick, we're hitting it and we walking. 575 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: So we walked there. I'm like, dang, I'm like shot, 576 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: Like I said, let let me just stop, you know, 577 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: moving for a second. Let me just cool down. And 578 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: then you know, I had to get back. So it 579 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: was a double commute. So point five point five is 580 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 2: what out you know of my shoe? You know, So 581 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: I failed my big because I was out there glazed 582 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: up like a like a like a like a doughnut. 583 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 2: I'm glazed up. I'm like. So when I got here, 584 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: I was like, bag, I need to go because to 585 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: get my town. Bro, I don't know who I'm full of. 586 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: So basically the message that we're trying to tell y'all, 587 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: and I'm telling y'all right here, big boys when it's 588 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: over seventy five degrees outside, have yourself a big boytown. 589 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: Yeah all right. 590 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: So my my final my final question too, is you 591 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: turned out to be this great person, the hybrid true 592 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: version of yourself Mount Rushmore. If you had to pick 593 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: four people on your personal influence to help build you 594 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: for who you are, just in life, college, on the field, 595 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: off the field, professional, whatever, who are those four people. 596 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: Being great question? I would start with Alan Iverson. I 597 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: would start with Alan Iverson. Do you want to explain 598 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: why I do SA one of them? 599 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: Yes? 600 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: Sure, cool, Alan Iverson, because that was my first vision, 601 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: Sorry that that was my first vision of looking at 602 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: an athlete that quote unquote did not care what people 603 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: thought and still did what he did and still quote 604 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: unquote still had success because of his athletic ability. Ai. 605 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: I don't have earrings and stuff like that. AI had 606 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: ear rings, He had braids. Okay, AI had earrings, He 607 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: had braids, he had jewelryes, he had baggy clothes. He 608 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: was hisself. Everybody else was going in these giants suits. Now, hey, 609 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: I had suits on two, But he was just baggy clothes. 610 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: I'm Ai, I'm a sometimes and go to practice and 611 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: then I'm going to perform me. I said, I'm looking 612 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: at this as be the true version of yourself and 613 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: it will set you free. Ai was a true version 614 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: of himself. Culture is drastically changed. He started doing crossovers 615 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: Da da Da da. Peoples like what drastically changed? All right? 616 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: AI two, I would say, Snoop Dogg. Okay, Snoop Dogg. 617 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: He's actually a very good friend of mine now, which 618 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: I'm blessed to say. That's that's a o g un. 619 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: And he is so well diversified that I am so amazed, 620 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: just so amazed. He is a part of everything because 621 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: that's where he is. Nickelodeon, super Bowl, NFL Honors DJ 622 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: I DJ. Now you know he's a smoker. He didn't 623 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: let people say, well, you gotta stop stop smoking. He 624 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: was the true version of himself and it set him 625 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: free and and he set himself free. And he'd be anywhere, 626 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: white house, don't matter. If he can't do it, he'd 627 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: he's not going. And I respect that right. He knows 628 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: his worth. Also, oil back that with Shaquille O'Neill. Why 629 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neill and Stoop Dogg Snoop Dogg is a skinny, 630 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: Shack is the big Also both are hand in hand, 631 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: which is being their true self. Shaq is a goofball, 632 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: He's funny. He's just gonna be shocked. And that's just 633 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: what you were going to get. And I respect that. 634 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: And you know, if I could paint a picture of 635 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: what you know, Jesus Christ looks like, because we don't 636 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: know who he really looks like. If I can paint 637 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: a picture of what he really looks like, he will 638 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: be painted on Mount Rushmore with those other three greats 639 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: under him in life, because you know God is first. 640 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: Look great, that's a great one. And will Will said, well, 641 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: put yes, great pictures for all that. All right, Well 642 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: appreciate you coming on the things you run anytime to 643 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 3: come to the park I got. You know, we appreciate you, 644 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: you know, not sweating out the braids and just you know, 645 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 3: sacrificing one of the T shirts. 646 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: So we we appreciate the love that you. 647 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, man, I will now be a 648 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: much bigger fan of you as well. I appreciate that 649 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: no doubt man. You You're thoroughly impressive. You got great energy. 650 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: I didn't know who you are truly, and I get 651 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: to see the true version of yourself. 652 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 653 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: And you are free. 654 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. 655 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: Free, you act free, you handle yourself and represent yourself 656 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: as a free dude who knows who he is. 657 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: And uh you already snow snow you already, yeah snow, 658 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: no snow today. I appreciate you, by the thanks by 659 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: for sure.