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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: This is an.

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Speaker 3: Interview we've been waiting for. Why you asked, well, because

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Speaker 3: she's one of our favorites. We in a free agency draft,

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Speaker 3: Ashley and myself would have drafted her first to be

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Speaker 3: in Paradise.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, she became very sought after in Paradise,

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Speaker 3: even if she knew it or not. Jess, Welcome to

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Speaker 3: the Almost Famis podcast.

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Speaker 4: Hi guys, thanks for having me. Hi.

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Speaker 5: Of course, we love having you. And I'd have to

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Speaker 5: say that you probably were the most sought after woman.

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Speaker 5: I don't think there was one guy there that wasn't like, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'd like to get to know Jess better.

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Speaker 4: Thanks. Yeah, I don't know. It was definitely an interesting

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Speaker 4: new environment, but I'm glad that I went and everyone

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Speaker 4: was very nice.

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Speaker 2: So they were very nice to you.

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Speaker 3: Let's be honest, like you had to walk out of

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Speaker 3: there with no matter what, at least your confidence being

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Speaker 3: built a little bit, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean yes, and no, I mean I think just

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Speaker 4: like as I get older, you know, that's something I'm

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Speaker 4: working on. But I'm glad in general I walked out

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Speaker 4: of their no like burnt bridges or anything, and just

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Speaker 4: you know, stay out a lot of the drama. Kept

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Speaker 4: to myself, just continue to work on myself. The best

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Speaker 4: thing that you can really like learn from now and

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Speaker 4: take from that based.

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Speaker 3: On what she has said, we just got to start

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Speaker 3: this thing out with what we committed to doing yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Okay, but I was going to make it more subtle.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, I don't think there's any settlements. Oh Okay,

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Speaker 3: yesterday we had an interview with Tanner. It was a

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Speaker 3: great interview and he just mentioned kind of actually kind

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Speaker 3: of clarify the adjectives I'm going to use here. He

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Speaker 3: just mentioned he was saddened, disappointed that he didn't get

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Speaker 3: a better first impression with you, that he would really

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Speaker 3: have liked the second chance with you, that he is

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Speaker 3: still open to a chance with you. And then we asked,

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Speaker 3: can we tell Jess this and try to make this

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Speaker 3: happen or at least bring it to her attention, and

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Speaker 3: he said, yes, you can.

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Speaker 6: She looks genuinely happy.

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Speaker 2: I think, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, that's really I think that's really sweet. He's really

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Speaker 4: really nice guy. I'm like, you know, although like I

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Speaker 4: think my time at Paradise was it maybe the most

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Speaker 4: fun I've ever had in my life. It was he

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Speaker 4: was a good person to end the experience with. He

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Speaker 4: was so nice to me and so understanding. I think

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Speaker 4: it would have been horrible if, like the situation was different,

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Speaker 4: someone arose and they like hated me for changing my

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Speaker 4: mind the next day, like, he was so kind to

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Speaker 4: me about that, So I'm.

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Speaker 6: Glad that, Yeah he was. He was like, let's get

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Speaker 5: Then, you know, Okay, well, let's go back in time

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Speaker 5: and change what he wishes he could have, and that

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Speaker 4: I mean I think regardless, that would make the experience

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Speaker 4: I think it was like day three or you know,

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Speaker 4: the he was someone that I was interested in meeting,

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Speaker 4: but I don't. I can't really get on like in

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Speaker 4: terms of who I would have ended up. I think

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Speaker 4: So I don't. I don't think it would have changed

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Speaker 3: The conversation with Tanner yesterday really just showed us, Jess,

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Speaker 3: what I think everybody on that beach was feeling is

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Speaker 3: the show did that. Did your storyline a little bit

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Speaker 6: That she's having fun.

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Speaker 2: That's why my question is I I just look.

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Speaker 5: Actually relatively missed me most of the time. You're always

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's my question for you is what was

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Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah, so you know, I think for me, I

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Speaker 4: like took my best friend on a date or if

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Speaker 4: I wasn't sure if the guy was with was my

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Speaker 4: I don't want to leave here and figure it out

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Speaker 4: if I would change it, but maybe just have more

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Speaker 5: I feel like we're very similar in this way. I

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Speaker 5: feel like there's probably no chance that you were going

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Speaker 6: I too, No, I mean like you can't help not

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Speaker 5: Definitely have fun in the environment. I definitely did, but

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Speaker 5: you can't not take it seriously.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: It's just like there's some people out there that just

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Speaker 5: like love's too important. Yeah, okay, but does This is

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Speaker 5: one thing that I was so confused about looking at

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Speaker 5: something like why me, why is this going wrong? Everything's

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Speaker 4: Yeah right?

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Speaker 6: Am I right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I mean it definitely was frustrating even watching

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Speaker 4: like you learn a lot watching yourself back, You learn

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Speaker 4: a lot even the second that you leave and reflecting

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Speaker 4: in that moment, you know, it was just a course

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Speaker 5: To didn't make that a big deal either. They didn't

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Speaker 5: there was like a blip.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, can I hal that our conversations about

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Speaker 4: it very maturely, like it wasn't I can't be upset that,

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Speaker 4: so yeah, no, I think I played a victim mindset

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Speaker 4: like I thought first day, second day, I'd be like,

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Speaker 4: was never a time where I genuinely thought that without

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Speaker 3: So there was like, was there ever a moment where

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Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, I knew that there was

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Speaker 3: I don't know my advice recently for any new bachelor

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 5: Can you tell us about your first few moments with Blake,

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Speaker 5: you know, your first day or two and initially like

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Speaker 5: Bet and I didn't put the two of you together

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, definitely. So I remember day one, I was

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Speaker 4: He was the last conversation I had. I think I

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Speaker 6: Talked to you know, Sean wanted to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: A lot of feelings were hurt. Wasn't a fun night.

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Speaker 3: As Blake left after ending relationship, Kylie was the one

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, that was my follow up. So now they're

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Speaker 4: I remember going into that night wanting to do something

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Speaker 4: I think so too. I think he Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think in his perspective he was doing that

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Speaker 2: Have you talked to him.

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Speaker 4: Since, Yes, we're good friends. Like we're like on goad

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00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 4: terms nothing no issues or anything like.

441
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 5: You text sometimes or you DM sometimes, or like you

442
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 5: face time sometimes.

443
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,679
Speaker 4: Just you know, communicate however you communicate with the front.

444
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 6: Have you seen him in person? Since no, liar not lying.

445
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 4: No, we're very good. We're very good friends. I signed

446
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 4: up for hard questions, not these cluestion. No.

447
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 3: Uh, you know it is it is fun. I wouldn't

448
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: be surprised if you saw each other. You could have

449
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 3: said yes, because it feels like Blake has done a

450
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: great job but kind of rallying a lot of people

451
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 3: from Paradise together to do the stuff he loves and

452
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 3: that other people love doing. You know, we see uh

453
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 3: snapshots and social media often with other contestants. In fact,

454
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: I had to ask if Rachel and Blake were dating,

455
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: and somebody said, no, they're just friends. So maybe he's

456
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: just really good at being friends with all these really

457
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: pretty girls from Paradise.

458
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

459
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: Just when you went down to the beach, was Blake

460
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: the person that was top on your list or who

461
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 3: was top?

462
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 4: No? I did not think I would be on Blake's list,

463
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 4: so I didn't even think about that. I hate to

464
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 4: say list, but I was just mainly interested in getting

465
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 4: to know Tanner and Tyler. But ultimately you can say that,

466
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 4: but it's a matter of who wants to explore you too.

467
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 4: So I went into it not being too hard on

468
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 4: the list because it's just a matter of like the

469
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 4: you know, it's mutual and compatibility and all that.

470
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 5: We talked about your friendship with Kat, Like we love

471
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 5: Kat as a reality star.

472
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 6: She's amazing.

473
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 5: Uh, you guys seem like an incompatible friend couple though,

474
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 5: Like you are so just sweet and wholesome.

475
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 6: And she is.

476
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 5: Loud in your face and intense, So like, tell us

477
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 5: about how you guys click.

478
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we became close on Bachelor because we had

479
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 4: a conversation that we're both from Florida and we actually

480
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 4: had some mutual friends. She went to a college near

481
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 4: my hometown and so it was just like a very

482
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 4: like a familiar face almost like it felt like home

483
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: a little bit. And so we just got close through

484
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 4: then and we're very very different. But also she has

485
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: a good heart, and I think it's, yeah, it's unfortunate

486
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 4: that you know, she does bring such good TV and

487
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 4: I think that that was very leaned into because she,

488
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 4: I mean, she was one of the people that carried

489
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 4: the season with with how good a TV she is.

490
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 4: But he has more to offer to her than what

491
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 4: we're just seeing, and she's someone what I love about

492
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 4: her is she is very willing to grow and listen

493
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 4: to different perspectives. And she helps me grow too, and

494
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 4: other in different ways that I didn't know that I

495
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 4: needed help in. So it's just it's a lot of

496
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 4: learning and growing from each other.

497
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 3: It always gets a little too much at times, but

498
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: it was it was a tough season for Cat. I mean,

499
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: she had a couple of weeks there where it felt

500
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 3: like the stuff we were seeing was, yes, gonna be

501
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 3: criticized and she was going to get you know, the

502
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 3: the negative comments made about her. But as a friend

503
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: who lived through this with her, what was that like

504
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: watching that take you know, play out?

505
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 4: Do you mean like watching it back or like being.

506
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 3: There watching it back and then knowing how you know,

507
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: she was obviously very hurt just by the public statements

508
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 3: she made.

509
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 4: No matter what is warranted or not. I think the

510
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 4: hate that this franchise receives is just it's just insane

511
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 4: and so blown out of proportion. I felt very bad

512
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 4: for her because as a friend, it was very hard

513
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 4: to see, even just like her own comments section on

514
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: her social media page is like that is. It just

515
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 4: was really heartbreaking because I don't think anyone deserves the

516
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: level of hate that they get on an edited TV show.

517
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 4: So I think the heart of the most hardest thing

518
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 4: was to just see how hard it was for her.

519
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 4: For what people didn't really understand was that she's human

520
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 4: and she's watching this back with and reliving these hard moments,

521
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 4: and on top of that, receiving so much hate from

522
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 4: it that it's really bad her mental health. And I

523
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 4: just that was like my my biggest concern with her

524
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 4: all season was making sure she was okay and it.

525
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 6: Was tough, and how is she doing now with the

526
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 6: John Henry split.

527
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 4: I'm excited for her to be able to, you know,

528
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 4: share more about that, but I think all she can

529
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 4: do right now is just focus on herself and heal.

530
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: But she's a lot stronger than anyone could imagine, so

531
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 4: I think she'll be okay.

532
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: Well, to close out here, Jess, it really was fantastic.

533
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: You know, you came on the podcast a while back

534
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: and you left the podcast, and Ashley and I are

535
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: like that girl, she's special, you know, she's She's a

536
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: great person to have on this show, and obviously people

537
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: we're seeing this on the beach as well. I feel like,

538
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: if anything, you should walk away from this experience knowing

539
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: that there was a lot of guys that still want

540
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 3: to talk to you and that wanted to talk to

541
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 3: you once Blake left the scene. Final question from me here,

542
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: is there anything different that you wish you would have

543
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: done in Paradise other than having more fun? Mostly I'm

544
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: talking about in decisions there.

545
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 4: I think for me, like I know I've seen or

546
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 4: heard before that my lack of experience comes off as immaturity.

547
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 4: But for me, like that is something that I take

548
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 4: a lot of pride in that I don't just date

549
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 4: around don't. I don't date a lot of people, And

550
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 4: that's because when I meet my per and I'm excited

551
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 4: to be like, well, I saved all of this about

552
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 4: myself for you, and so I think for me, the

553
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 4: only thing that I would do differently is maybe just

554
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: I would have waited. I think there's ways to learn

555
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: about what you're looking for and what you're wanting outside

556
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 4: of just dating. A bunch of people. So that was

557
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 4: the first time. That was the most dating that I

558
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 4: have ever done on Paradise, and I didn't really do that.

559
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 4: So I think the one thing I've done differently is

560
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: to just go into it more confident in other ways

561
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 4: than just having more experience.

562
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 6: I get that, totally.

563
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: Take it from somebody who's married to somebody who self

564
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: admittedly did not have a lot of experience.

565
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: She had a lot of one.

566
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, like first dates, but uh yeah, not a lot

567
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: of second dates or third dates. And you know, there

568
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 3: is there's there's a beauty in that, and there's an

569
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: admiration I think too, where now that I've gotten to

570
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 3: know more about my wife, there's just it was and

571
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: always easy. But she she's a tough girl, and she

572
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: did she cares deeply about the decision she's making and so.

573
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: Be proud of that.

574
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: And uh, one day, who knows, somebody may slide into

575
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: your DMS and.

576
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: You could get getting married three years later.

577
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 3: I guess I do have one low a cress and

578
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: has anybody from the Bachelor of franchise slid into your

579
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: DM since.

580
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 6: This show, no one that any celebrities let's go to I.

581
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: Know I don't know.

582
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 2: I don't know, because yes, gracious.

583
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 4: I do not. I don't think I come off as

584
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: someone that would probably openly respond to. So I feel

585
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 4: like I feel like that's the reason why it may

586
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: not happen very frequently, because I don't normally. Yeah, I

587
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 4: don't really, Yeah, I don't know. I'm not much of

588
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: like a I don't know. I like to keep to

589
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 4: myself and if I'm single, I like to really lean

590
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: into that, and I like things to happen organically. So

591
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 4: I think in terms of world, I am taking a

592
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: break from from bochelor boys. I'm just learning to love

593
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 4: myself right now, focus on my job, my career, moving

594
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: all that before I answered in DMS. But if it's

595
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 4: like a really hot guy out there that's listening, he'll

596
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: try give me the option to open it or not

597
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: open it.

598
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I met my wife through a DM,

599
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: so like, don't say no to everybody, because there could

600
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: be somebody that all of a sudden, you go on

601
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: your first day and I guess this is it.

602
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: We're over.

603
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: I'm not against it. I like the option of it

604
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: being there, but I may not take it.

605
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 5: So we'll see Ben's also not the kind of guy

606
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 5: that you would think is going to go and slide

607
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 5: into DMS, so like that's who you should.

608
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 6: Be looking out for, right, I agree?

609
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 4: I agree.

610
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: Okay, the weirdos who never go on social media, but

611
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: when they do they have.

612
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 5: My last question for you is are you truly shocked

613
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: at any of these breakups?

614
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 4: I think the only emotion I have is just I

615
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: feel so sad because a lot of them, we're very

616
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: excited to share their relationships, so it's just really sad

617
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 4: to be friends with everyone and see that that didn't

618
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 4: come into fruition. So I can't imagine being in their position.

619
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: So it's just sad.

620
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 6: Oh wait, wait, I'm sorry. We just keep thinking about things.

621
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: Just as kind of like she's really good.

622
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: This is like a congressional hearing where like we asked

623
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: the tough question, She's like, huh, yeah, what's the thing

624
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: I can say here that makes sense?

625
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: Well, I've had a lot of interview prep for jobs,

626
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: so I have I'm very good at.

627
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 6: She's very good.

628
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 5: We said at the top of the show, you know

629
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 5: we're gonna have hard questions, and she goes, I like

630
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 5: hard questions. Well, now we know, because she could beat

631
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 5: around the bullsh around them.

632
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, I feel like we should just be

633
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: like is it a yes or no?

634
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I'm not good. Yes, there's no questions.

635
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, But like I saw you on FaceTime with Kylie.

636
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 5: There was like that FaceTime with you and Kylie And

637
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: was it Cat or was it Mercedes?

638
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 6: I don't know. I forget who was with the like.

639
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 4: New like thing or those fireworks and stuff.

640
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys like posted that you guys were on

641
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 5: a FaceTime excited that you didn't have to go on

642
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 5: reality TV again.

643
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: That was pre breakup.

644
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 5: Oh so it was screenshot from weeks days earlier.

645
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 4: Pre breakup. I think we were just we were excited

646
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 4: regardless about the breakup. It was just us being excited

647
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: for the point of it was no more trolls. We

648
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 4: were like, no more trolls, Like we're done, like we

649
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: can live in sunshine and rainbows and no more mean people.

650
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: That was like what we were doing.

651
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 6: I can't believe there's still mean people talking to you guys.

652
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just block. I don't even I'm like a bye, yeah.

653
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 5: But then they get a little vindicated from the block

654
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 5: that it's like, oh I got to her.

655
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, but my mental health is more important

656
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: than like.

657
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: Real yeah mart statement, Yeah yeah, she's taken the wise route.

658
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: She's taking the wise route by just saying you don't

659
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: need to be a part of my life. Then, Jess,

660
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: it's great to have you on here. You showed well.

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Speaker 3: We hope to see you back on television, but I

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Speaker 3: also hope that maybe you meet somebody before that opportunity

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Speaker 3: comes about again for you. So but it was a

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Speaker 3: pleasure watching this season as our first pick in the

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Speaker 3: Bachelor in Paradise fantasy draft that never existed did well

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Speaker 3: for You're so sweet.

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Speaker 6: Please give me media training.

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Speaker 4: Bye, my gosh.

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Speaker 3: This has been another episode of the Almost Fumous podcast.

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Speaker 3: Of course, we had what I would say, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think social media responded to it as well. Probably

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Speaker 3: the star, maybe not the most watched person this season,

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Speaker 3: of Bachelor in Paradise es with us today. Another great

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Speaker 3: week for the A Listener's podcast. So until next time,

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Speaker 3: I've been Ben, I've been

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