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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health. All Right,

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Speaker 1: welcome into another week of One Bill's Live. Here on

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Speaker 1: a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Glad to

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Speaker 1: have you with us. I hope you've been able to

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Speaker 1: chisel yourself out of the ice brick we've all been

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Speaker 1: living in. We might actually hit twenty today's.

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Speaker 2: Listen if it gets up to like thirty eight one

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Speaker 2: of these weeks, you don't feel like golf, Well, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm maybe it's so cold. It's so cold. Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: is like Minnesota cold. It's like Chicago and Noise cold.

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Speaker 1: My folks live in the Charleston area. They got two

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Speaker 1: inches of snow and shut down. Well yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: my son's down in Georgia and they got about an inch.

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Speaker 1: So I told you about snowing down there.

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Speaker 2: My son's and his wife and kids were on vacation,

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Speaker 2: five kids by the way, big family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Two grandmas went with them or it finished up the trip,

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Speaker 2: went down and met him and helped them travel back.

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Speaker 2: So there's like five kids, four adults, like nine people

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Speaker 2: in the good Ratio party, right, So they're traveling up

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Speaker 2: and go through Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Charlotte shut down.

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Speaker 2: What was gonna be there was on Friday, it was

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Speaker 2: going to be a nine hour day of travel, big so,

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Speaker 2: you know, the kids and all that. So they start

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Speaker 1: Multiply travel time by seven.

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Speaker 2: Instead of being home Friday night and having the weekend

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Speaker 2: to kind of settle in, get back in, unpack and

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Speaker 2: get you know, dolng, you know how it is get

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Speaker 2: back from a trip. They got back last night one

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Speaker 2: thirty am, well, all nine of them, after being snowed

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Speaker 2: in Charlotte for two days. That the problem was too

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Speaker 2: and bless their hearts, the people in Charlotte, they don't

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Speaker 2: know how to handle this stuff, right. They don't have

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Speaker 2: this infrastructure, the plows and the salt and the and

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Speaker 2: the wherewithal of the workers who know what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: They have none of that. So in fact, Charlotte, they

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Speaker 2: the family found a hotel they were staying in. There

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Speaker 2: was no all the restaurants sent their people home. They

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Speaker 2: closed the restaurants, the supermarkets, the gas station. No, they

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Speaker 2: just didn't want anybody driving. They go home, go home,

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Speaker 2: stay warm, we'll come back when it when it melt.

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Speaker 2: Everything just closed. They didn't they don't have any more.

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Speaker 1: They're not built like us, Steve.

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Speaker 2: They don't know that some people need food they don't have.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're in a hotel where they don't have

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Speaker 2: any food, so they they closed everything up. They they

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Speaker 2: were They lived for two days on the snacks in

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Speaker 2: the lobby of the hotel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the vending machine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was it was.

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Speaker 1: Your wife watches those scenes on TV with these people

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Speaker 1: in a full blown panic down south, yeah, and she's like,

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Speaker 1: we we must just be built different up here. Well,

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Speaker 1: you've been through completely shuts down. You grow up two

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Speaker 2: See, And that's the blessing. That's the blessing of being

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Speaker 2: growing up here in Buffalo. You grow up, you see

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Speaker 2: your folks go through it, You see your cousins and

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Speaker 2: your friends and your schoolmates go through it. You get it.

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Speaker 2: And then when you're an adult here, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is how you do it. We got it. We're

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Speaker 2: dialed in here. It's gonna be rough. There's gonna be

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Speaker 2: about that. But we're good. They don't have any experience

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Speaker 1: Down there, some of them did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's you know, that's a big deal for them.

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Speaker 2: For us, I don't know that a foot is even

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Speaker 1: Those travel problems are the main reason why we drive

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Speaker 1: to the Combine. That's right, we do because I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell you, Indianapolis, you could have a flurry and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden flights are canceled there we couldn't get home.

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Speaker 1: So it just got to a point where we all

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Speaker 1: You're not even in the air. You can't get from

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Speaker 2: For those are loyal listeners who understand, who know, and

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Speaker 2: remember we go to the Combine every year and we're

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Speaker 2: on radio row and we do a ton of stuff

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Speaker 2: from the combin. It's a lot of fun for all

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Speaker 2: of us, and it's a good trip and it kind

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Speaker 2: of marks the new season for us, you know, it

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Speaker 2: kind of kicks off our off season and new season

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Speaker 2: and you know, free agency the whole thing. We travel

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Speaker 1: It's only well as fun as Indy can be in February.

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Speaker 2: Right, good point by you, but the same by the

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We we changed the way we travel because of the

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Speaker 2: constant problems we had with their travel, you know, just

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Speaker 2: the the unpredictability of it.

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Speaker 1: There was a stretch we're three out of four years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: our flight got canceled on the way home and we

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Speaker 1: get back anywhere. We're like, why, why are we trying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we just jump I think what we're gonna

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Speaker 2: do the week of the combine, Right, we decide we're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Do the show here, Monday show here, and.

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Speaker 2: Then we're gonna hop in the car, hop in the

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Speaker 2: live from Indianapolis. That is that is correct.

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's get into some Bills notes. Head coach Joe

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Speaker 1: Brady got all three of his coordinator positions filled on

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Speaker 1: his staff over the weekend. After adding Pete Carmichael as

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Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator. Late last week, he hired Broncos defensive

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Speaker 1: be his defensive coordinator. Brady said in a statement on

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Speaker 1: the hire of Jim Leonard, quote, Jim's vision for what

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Speaker 1: he wants from our defense and the personality they play

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Speaker 1: with is the exact style of what I was looking

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Speaker 1: for from a defensive coordinator. You could tell how smart

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Speaker 2: So Jim's was one of those guys that I told

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Speaker 2: getting signed by here by a rookie free agent. As

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Speaker 2: you just heard, played for ten years and everywhere he

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Speaker 2: That guy's gonna be coaching. Certainly he's turned into a

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Speaker 1: Steve says this all the time. Smart guys play a

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Speaker 1: long time in the NFL. Yeah, Leonard's a smart guy.

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Speaker 1: Underrated as a punt returner too.

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Speaker 2: And he's a good decision maker. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 1: Brady also hired Veterans special teams coordinator Jeff Rogers off

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Speaker 1: had head coach Joe Brady on Friday's show here on

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, and by then word had already gotten

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Speaker 1: So here's what he had to say about the hiring

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Speaker 1: of Pete Carmichael, with whom he had a prior working relationship.

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Speaker 4: Pete has been no I said yesterday, I don't want

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Speaker 4: And now I have an offensive coordinator that also understands

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Speaker 4: And he's Look, he's as brilliant as they come. And

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited I get to work with all each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so pretty stoked that he was able to land

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Speaker 1: him right and pull him away from Sean Payton's staff

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Speaker 1: in Denver. Carmichael's worked for Peyton for like twenty years.

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Speaker 1: And I saw it written somewhere some reporter in Denver

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm Wendy, you need me, because for him

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Speaker 1: it almost sounded the way Pete Carmichael phrased it, it

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Speaker 1: an injustice, and it sounds like he's already made it

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Speaker 1: his mission to fix that going forward here. So guys

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Speaker 1: not only got an amazing track record, but the right

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Speaker 1: good to hear that as well. There are also reports

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Speaker 1: April has a prior working relationship with Jim Leonard, as

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Speaker 1: the two coach together at the University of Wisconsin for

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Speaker 1: five seasons. Prior to that, he coached for two seasons

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Speaker 1: with the Bills as a linebackers coach. And yes, he

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Speaker 1: is the son of former Bills special teams coordinator Bobby April,

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Speaker 1: who won two Special Teams Coordinator Coach of the Year

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Maybe in any event. He was at Stanford

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Speaker 2: You and I said, could you imagine the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: It definitely we don't have to play. Come on, we'll

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Speaker 1: We're gonna leave there Friday afternoon and we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: Here for some game. Those guys really sound messed up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: His family, all the guys that he hired to help

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Speaker 2: Families get it too. And it's interesting as as we've

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Speaker 2: seen with some of the coaching hires, a lot of

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys follow their dads into the business. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, because they that is true, because they get

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Speaker 2: that itch or they see the you know, they see

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Speaker 2: the feelings of these these coaching staffs and the players

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Speaker 2: and the teams have for each other, the way they

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Speaker 2: look out for each other, and the and the way

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Speaker 2: they go out and accomplish tangible results. It's very enticing

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Speaker 2: for young guys looking for something they want to dive

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Speaker 2: into because it's it's quite the atmosphere, you know, quite

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Speaker 2: the atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: Topic of discussion for you to chew on today. What

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Speaker 1: do you see that's the biggest difference with the Bills

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Speaker 1: recent coordinator hires. You let us know at eight oh three,

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Speaker 1: five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five

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Speaker 1: fifty those are the numbers to join us. We do

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Speaker 1: have to take a break here, but when we get back,

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Speaker 1: we're getting right to your phone calls. We'll lead off

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Speaker 1: with David and Lockport when we return here on one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kill out of Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. What do you see is the biggest difference

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Speaker 1: with the Bills recent coordinator hires eight O three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty the number to join us and let us

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Speaker 1: know what you think. And we lead off as promised

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Speaker 1: as we go to the phones now with David in

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Speaker 1: the lockpoard. What's up David?

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Hey Steve, by

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Speaker 6: the way, good luck with the Hall of Fame thing too,

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Speaker 6: isn't that coming up?

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Speaker 7: Still?

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Speaker 1: No, not this year, not this year.

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Speaker 6: All right, there's always next year. All right, I'm leaving

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Speaker 6: you there. You go, all right.

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Speaker 1: So I.

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Speaker 6: Used to be the wine director at at a restaurant

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Speaker 6: in Buffalo. I could probably mention the name you've guys

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Speaker 6: had your stations, had a relationship with the Buffalo Chop House, okay,

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Speaker 6: and we did a lot of business. And I was

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Speaker 6: offered a trip to Australia to just go taste wine,

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Speaker 6: get paid for it, everything paid for That is great, right,

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Speaker 6: But the flight, I'll tell you what. I went Buffalo

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Speaker 6: to Chicago, hour layover, Chicago to LA hourly layover, and

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Speaker 6: then LA Direct all the way to Sydney. That by

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Speaker 6: itself was seventeen hours straight in a plane. And I

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Speaker 6: mean some of these guys are three hundred pounds, you know,

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Speaker 6: plus you know, like good luck with that. It was.

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Speaker 6: It was really interesting, you know.

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Speaker 2: And one thing you have to know, David, these guys

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Speaker 2: will go charter, Yeah, and they'll probably be on a

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Speaker 2: sleeper plane. They'll be on they'll be on a big

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Speaker 2: wide body seven seven ninety seven seven eight, as big

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Speaker 2: as possible, so they'll they'll be as comped and it

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Speaker 2: won't be full, you know, so a few different but yes,

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Speaker 2: you're right, three hundred pounds. It's real and ain't no

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Speaker 2: easy way to do it.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this. I had an empty seat next to me, fortunately,

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Speaker 6: and I was on seven fifty seven and I had

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Speaker 6: an empty seat next to me. And my plan was

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Speaker 6: is to start drinking in LA and continue to drink

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Speaker 6: on the plane, so that I had when I'm like

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Speaker 6: seven hours into the flight, I'm just going to sleep

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Speaker 6: the rest of the way. And that worked out. And

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Speaker 6: I do have a quick funny story about it. I

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Speaker 6: smuggled three bottles of wine on my carry on. This

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Speaker 6: is two thousand and five, and I didn't have them

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Speaker 6: into wine bottles. I had them in plastic bottles. And

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Speaker 6: I got down to my last glass of wine a

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Speaker 6: few hours into the you know, quite a few hours

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Speaker 6: into the flight, and I was just about ready to

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Speaker 6: go to sleep. Pour my last glass of wine into

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Speaker 6: the glass that I had they provided me. And then

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Speaker 6: the stewardess notices me and she says, excuse me, stare

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Speaker 6: is that wine? And I said yeah. She goes, well,

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Speaker 6: you can't bring wine, your own wine onto an airplane,

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Speaker 6: and I lied, I said, well, I thought on an

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Speaker 6: international flight it would be okay, and she goes, know,

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Speaker 6: the thing is, is that pardon me. We have to

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Speaker 6: we monitor everything everyone's drinking in case there's a medical emergency.

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Speaker 6: Then we'll know how much you've had to drink. And

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Speaker 6: I just said, marked me down for a lot, and

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Speaker 6: she smiled and let me finish my life.

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Speaker 1: Oh ye, three bottles, bro That is aggressive.

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Speaker 2: It takes three bottles for those of us, some of

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Speaker 2: us and me in a former life, in a former life,

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Speaker 2: traveled a lot. And you get so callous and so

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Speaker 2: dialed in and so folk, you know, so able to doce.

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Speaker 2: You get the lay of the land. You can everybody

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Speaker 2: can imagine. It's almost Yeah, you get desensitize and also

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Speaker 2: very good at doing stuff traveling airport security, how to

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Speaker 2: pass time in an airport, how to pass time on

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Speaker 2: a flight, what to do with a crowded flight, what

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Speaker 2: to do with a non crowded flight, how to handle

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Speaker 2: which luggage you carry. I mean, there's a million things

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Speaker 2: that you just get really good at. There is no

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Speaker 2: getting around an eighteen hour flight.

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Speaker 1: And that's just from LA think.

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Speaker 2: Even if even if you're like elite class, you get

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Speaker 2: the full lay down thing with a TV that it

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Speaker 2: it's horrible. You're laying in what happened to you be

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Speaker 2: an all gung ho about going doing the show for

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Speaker 2: a week?

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Speaker 1: That changed quickly.

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Speaker 2: I'd get brownie points with the missus and the whole thing,

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Speaker 2: and points, you know, airline points. I'm telling you, even

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Speaker 2: if you're in a lay down flip flopping on the

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Speaker 2: I mean, they couldn't make it nice if it was

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Speaker 2: Air Force one. I'm telling you it is not worth it.

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Speaker 2: It is not worth it. Now that it's better than

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Speaker 2: coach now, I'll tell you that. But even if you

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Speaker 2: go at the top of the top, you're laying in.

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Speaker 1: What is a basic you're not changing the time.

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Speaker 2: You're basically in a coffin with a TV screen with

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Speaker 2: stuff that you don't want to watch. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 2: it's horrible.

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Speaker 1: You were just you're killing men. It's horrible. You're just

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Speaker 1: talking last segment.

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Speaker 2: Come on, we'll go.

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Speaker 1: We'll do the show out there for a week. It'll

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Speaker 1: be great.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing. That's one thing if you're setting in,

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Speaker 2: if you're flying the leat and you're doing all that, Brownie,

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Speaker 2: it's a little better too if you.

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Speaker 1: Don't have to pay for it. Well, that's true, right,

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Speaker 1: I won't debate that, so that makes it tolerable.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we've discussed enough about that. We want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the biggest difference with the bill's recent

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Speaker 1: coordinator hires. And here to help us do that is

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Speaker 1: Corey and Rochester story. Cory, you're on, Oh boy, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna put Corey on hold. He's listening to you talking

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Speaker 1: to somebody else. Let's go to Kevin and Hamburg. What's up, Kevin, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: how you doing?

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Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call. I think the biggest difference, obviously,

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Speaker 7: I don't know much about Peter comic I've the buying

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Speaker 7: like the old Marengaye Junior song. But I mean Kim

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Speaker 7: Leonard is the most impressive when he said about what

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Speaker 7: he did at Wisconsin and the Big Ten, how he

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Speaker 7: turned their defense toy around. And in the Big Ten

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Speaker 7: you have to constantly, especially play The main two you

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Speaker 7: hear about is Michigan Ohio State. There's other teams too,

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Speaker 7: but those two teams are the teams that hardly ever

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Speaker 7: sucked the least. You know, you hardly ever hear at

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Speaker 7: Michigan stinking and Ohio State. So you do those two teams.

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Speaker 7: What's the other one? But those two you have to

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Speaker 7: be a good defense playing. They'll kill you like thirty

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Speaker 7: to three.

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Speaker 1: If you don't.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think another aspect of that, Kevin is

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Speaker 2: you always feel like if you're I'm not I'm generalizing right.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any against Wisconsin ring I was a

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Speaker 2: Northwestern guy in the Big Ten, so I know what

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Speaker 2: this is like constantly like Michigan and Ohio State. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and this year of course Indiana. Same thing. You always

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Speaker 2: feel like as Wisconsin and Illinois and Minnesota, you always

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Speaker 2: feel like you're overmatched with talent. So if you're coaching there.

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Speaker 2: You kind of know what it is to walk in

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Speaker 2: there thinking you're going to get out athleticized, and you

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Speaker 2: got to overcome that as a coaching staff's your job,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's a big job. It's a challenge. So

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Speaker 2: you've got a coaching Jim Leonard who was doing it

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Speaker 2: with Wisconsin guys and not doing it.

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Speaker 1: Well, not as many five stars as Ohio's.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying and it's not always like that.

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Speaker 2: You don't have nobody that can play, but that's kind

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Speaker 2: of part of the deal, and it I think it

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Speaker 2: helps develop you as a coach when you feel like

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Speaker 2: you've always maybe got some lesser athletes than the guys

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Speaker 2: you're playing against. You're always playing against. You know, you're

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Speaker 2: playing against a handful of NFL guys when you're playing

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Speaker 2: against those teams were mentioning and you got to figure

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Speaker 2: it out as a coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Leonard had several top five finishes in the

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Speaker 1: FBS with his defense at Wisconsin, So that's encouraging to see.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Adam in Virginia next. What's up Adam?

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Speaker 9: Hey, Chris, Hi, Steve, how are you guys doing to

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Speaker 9: that good these coordinators hi hires worry me big time

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Speaker 9: because I don't worry Dean's gonna do what he's done

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Speaker 9: since we treated stuff, and he's just gonna keep focusing

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Speaker 9: on the defensive side of the ball. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 9: get three guard screen passes all year like we did

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Speaker 9: in the second hand.

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Speaker 1: So you don't so let me ask you this, Adam. So,

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Speaker 1: even though you're head coach, is quote unquote offensive minded

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Speaker 1: and is the former offensive coordinator, you don't think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have any influence in maybe getting a little more

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Speaker 1: for the offense going forward.

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Speaker 9: But the problem is Chris. He's already said he's gonna

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Speaker 9: bring Kean back, and Keon's one of our biggest issues

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Speaker 9: right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but there's you know, I think they believe

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Speaker 1: there's still time to fix that. We'll see if they can.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we anticipate Curtis Samuel being back, right,

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Speaker 1: So that's either that's a subtraction. It's totally up in

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Speaker 1: the air as to what happens with Brandon Cooks, who's

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Speaker 1: a free agent.

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't bring him back either.

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Speaker 1: So I think there'll be some changes there, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's at a minimum with the two players we mentioned. So,

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Speaker 1: I think anytime you bring out, when you sweep out

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Speaker 1: a majority of the previous staff and knowing there's probably

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Speaker 1: going to be a schematic change on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, I think it's very fair to say

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Speaker 1: that the player turnover on this roster is going to

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Speaker 1: be more significant than we've seen in quite some time.

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Speaker 1: Just for that reason alone. Then if you roll in

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Speaker 1: perceive tweaks and changes that Joe Brady may want to

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Speaker 1: make on the offensive side of the ball, Bean might

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Speaker 1: have even more to change there than we've seen in

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Speaker 1: recent years.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget one of the and I everybody talks about

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Speaker 2: the screen passes and all that, and everybody's kind of

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00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: fed up up with him, your coaching staff, and your

651
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: offense and your defense as well. It's gonna look like

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Speaker 2: your best players. The Bills offense looks like Josh James

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Speaker 2: cook the offensive line Khalil shakir Kin, Kaden Knox. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's what it looks like. If they do get Brandon

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Speaker 2: Cooks can carve out a name for himself and make

656
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: the offense change its identically a little bit. Guys like that,

657
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: that's what you would expect. And one of the reasons

658
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: Joe Brady was a little bit of a hot commodity

659
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: this last cycle was because he was doing it without

660
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: an alpha male outside right, without Jamar Chase Outside or

661
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: t Higgins or name one of the great wide receivers

662
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: in the league, Jackson Smith and Jigma. He didn't have

663
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: any of those guys, but they were still an elite offense,

664
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: scoring a lot of points, number two in the league

665
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: in explosive plays, and they had to figure it out

666
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: with the players they had. Now, when those players change,

667
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: and I don't say if, when those players change, the

668
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: offense is going to look significantly different because they'll use

669
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: tried and true methods to exploit the talent that they

670
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: do have on that side of the ball. That's what

671
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: it's going to happen. Whatever the however this roster formulates

672
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: this offseason on the offensive side, the offense is going

673
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: to change in that manner because they'll exploit the matchups

674
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: and the players that they have. For those here's the

675
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: reality of it is this for those of you who

676
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: don't want them to keep doing the same thing, because

677
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: they're going to get the same results. You know that,

678
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 2: you know that that adage of you know, repeat the

679
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: same things and expect different results as insanity. If you

680
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: if this offense was the number one in the offense

681
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: in the league and not, you couldn't do it the

682
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: same even if you wanted to. It's gonna change because

683
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: the league, because the roster has to change year over year,

684
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: the contracts run out, Guys get a year older, guys

685
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: get injured. You just can't repeat what you're doing.

686
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: Defense is spend all off season trying to get a

687
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: handle on what you did that was so successful. So

688
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: you have to tweak and change that again to stay

689
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: ahead of that curve.

690
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: That's right. So as much as some people out there think, yeah,

691
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: the offense doesn't need too much help, they led the

692
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: league in they led the league in rushing, they had,

693
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: they were number two in the league in explosives, they

694
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: scored a ton all of that stuff. They're not going

695
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: to be able to run it back. As good as

696
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: that was, they're not going to so And for those

697
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: of you who wish for change, it's on the way.

698
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: I mean, there's just no two ways about it. You

699
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: can't run it back, and I know it's a big ada,

700
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: Let's run it back. There's no running it back in

701
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: the NFL. There's too much stuff changes in the off season.

702
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: Let's go to Gary and Ellman next.

703
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 8: What's up Gary, very good at Thanks for taking a call. Sure,

704
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 8: I got a question what your thoughts are on bringing

705
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 8: in a new strength and conditioning coach with all the

706
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 8: injuries that we had.

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00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: We had. We had somebody I don't know the gentleman's

708
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 3: name four or five years ago and they let him

709
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 3: go and I think he went to Jacksonville.

710
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: That's right.

711
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: Now. They're like they led the league and at least

712
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: man games loss to injury, whereas we probably led the

713
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: league in man games lost to injury.

714
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bills were actually uh fifth in that category. They

715
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: were in the top five, but they were fifth in

716
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: that category. So yes, they did have a lot of injuries.

717
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: You're not wrong about that, Gary. I think it's an

718
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: oversimplification to pin it solely on the strength and conditioning staff, though,

719
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: as you know, the fitness, health, well being and ensuring

720
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: maximum performance of the players on the roster goes far.

721
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: It's a multi layered thing that goes far deeper than

722
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: just strength and conditioning. I mean conditioning, you got sports science,

723
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: you have athletic training. You've got many, many, many layers

724
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: that contribute to the health and well being of the players,

725
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: including measuring exertion rated practice and how the coaches want

726
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: to structure practice and how hard they want to push

727
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: them through the course of the season, and when they

728
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: back off and when they put their foot on the gas.

729
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: So my point is, it's like an onion with a

730
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: ton of layers. You can't just strip it down and

731
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: say it's a strength and conditioning department.

732
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 2: We got to change that. It's not as easy as well.

733
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: The punt returner dropped the ball and that's why we lost.

734
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 2: It's not that easy because there's so many layers, and

735
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 2: every injury is unique and different. Every player is unique

736
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: and different, and the stress and mileage that you put

737
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: on a guy during the week affects this guy differently

738
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: than it affects the other guy. It's something they chase

739
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: constantly and how they get an edge in soft tissue

740
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: injuries and stuff we do to ourselves.

741
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: And Gary they will absolutely investigate it this offseason. There

742
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: will be a hardcore look at what contributed to the

743
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,959
Speaker 1: high number of soft tissue injuries this season. They're gonna

744
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 1: look at the practice regimen that was undertaken this past year,

745
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: how it may have differed from the year before or

746
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: the year before that, and try to see if a

747
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: change there could help things. Was you know, what was

748
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: the hydration rate of the players that were all injured.

749
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: Were they properly hydrated? Were they prehabbing as much as rehabbing?

750
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Speaker 1: Like there are so many layers it would make your

751
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: head spin. But they are going to look at it

752
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: and if they're if they can find a viable solution

753
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: that they believe will help to alleviate the high rate

754
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: that we saw this past year, you better believe they're

755
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: gonna do it.

756
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't realize this, but one of the things

757
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: they do is take intake how the guys are feeling

758
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: on a day to day basis, and I can ask them, like,

759
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: what's it like today? How you feel? It's like, well,

760
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: I didn't sleep good last night, or actually today I

761
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: feel better than i'd yesterday after three days, you know

762
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: what I mean. So they get constant feedback from these guys,

763
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: not only verbally with how the guy, like in his

764
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: own brain feels, but also with the data that they get.

765
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Speaker 2: What they get, they were these monitoring monitoring devices like

766
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: a sports bra these guys all have and it's got

767
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: all the vital signs, so they've got hard statistics and

768
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: hard data to look at and how it correlates with

769
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: how the guy actually feels. So yeah, it's to say

770
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: that you know that they are studying, it doesn't really

771
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 2: do it justice. With all the information that they've got

772
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Speaker 2: at their fingertips.

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Speaker 1: It's practically at the microscopic level. Got to take a

774
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: break here, but more of your phone calls when we

775
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: get back. So if you're holding there, stay where you are,

776
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: because we want to know. What do you see as

777
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: the biggest difference with the Bill's recent coordinator hires heading

778
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: into next season? You let us know next year. On

779
00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: one of Bill's Live Stay with Us, Jo Brady has

780
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: filled out his coordinator positions. What do you see as

781
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: the biggest difference for the team going forward based on

782
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: what you might have read about these coordinators? Offense, Defense,

783
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: Special teams eight oh three zero five fifty one eighty

784
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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty To Brian on Grand Island,

785
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Brian?

786
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 10: Hey, good morning, gentlemen, I mean good afternoon. I'm sorry

787
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 10: that's all right. Anyways, I had a question. You know,

788
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 10: I'm taking a deep breath with the organization, but with

789
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 10: all the closure changes in the new stadium, that store,

790
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 10: what do you think of fan base thinks about all this?

791
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 1: Let's just wonder what does the fan base think about

792
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: all this? Well, that's that's a that's that's a little broad.

793
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a singular, all encompassing view

794
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: aside from this. I think the fan base is excited

795
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: about the new stadium. I think I feel comfortable in

796
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: saying that. But how they feel universally about the coordinator hires.

797
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of different opinions there.

798
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 2: You're asking the same question we asked in our topic today, Brian,

799
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 2: So try to turn that back on me. Thanks for listening.

800
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and turn the show around on us, don't do.

801
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: I think some people are still getting their minds around it.

802
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: They're on a wait and see attitude, And there's no

803
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: question about it. It's a transition period and it's and

804
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: their waiting to see what the ripple effects are going

805
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: to be. Is the team gonna take a step back

806
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: because of a first year head coach, or are they

807
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: gonna shift gears. I I would anticipate they're probably gonna

808
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: do a little bit of both in different areas of

809
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: the organization. Right, we'll see, it's gonna be an adjustment period.

810
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 2: They got a whole new staff coming in the offense

811
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: you would think was going to be kind of keep

812
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: on keeping on, and the defense is going to get

813
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: over a little bit of a makeover. I think that's

814
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: I think I feel comfortable saying that thumbs up comes down.

815
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 2: We may have to wait and see, but I'm excited

816
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: about the guys they've got making that transition.

817
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say that, And much like our caller Brian

818
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: who said he's taking a deep breath, I would imagine

819
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: there's a fair segment of the Bills fan base that's

820
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: doing that as well, playing the wait and see game.

821
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: Let's see what it looks like. You know, whether it's

822
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: OTA's or training camp or even waiting until the regular season,

823
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: some might choose to do that. Jim in Lockport is next,

824
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: what's up? Jim?

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00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the biggest difference is going to be

826
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 11: here in February switching over to the three four. Last

827
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 11: time we did it, it was kind of a nightmare.

828
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 11: I'm trying to look at the players and see which

829
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 11: ones could fill the bill. We got the young kid

830
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 11: that hopefully could turn into an all pro nose tacko.

831
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 11: I can see Russo standing up. But any opinions on

832
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 11: players that could excel in the three.

833
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: Four, yeah, I'll tell you this. I know, you know,

834
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: some people were a little discouraged, you know, with the

835
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: injuries that Terrel Bernard experienced this past season, and Jack

836
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: Thompson kind of took over the middle linebacker role because

837
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: he was the healthier of the two. But if they're

838
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: going to play, you know, a true three to four front,

839
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: Terrel Bernard is a week inside linebacker. I like that

840
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: fit a lot. I think that could be a really

841
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: good fit for him, maybe even better than playing in

842
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: a four to three scheme. But I think the most

843
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: important thing there is the skill sets of your personnel

844
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: are going to need to be different going forward here

845
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: in a lot of areas. And while Rousseau might be

846
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: athletic enough to stand up on the line, asking a

847
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: man that's six seven to drop into coverage, you know,

848
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: might be a little bit of a different animal. So

849
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: I think there are way as you could deploy him.

850
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: That would still make him effective in this system. You

851
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: mentioned Dion Walker, who I think has you know, got

852
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: the wherewithal and obviously the size to be a nose tackle.

853
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: Where does Ed fit in that? I think that's a

854
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: big question.

855
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: Actually, built pretty much like a defensive end in a three.

856
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: Four or so, is he long enough though?

857
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so, because he'll get a little bit,

858
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: it'll be more difficult for guards tackling certainly centers to

859
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 2: do to know what to do with him. Yeah, I've

860
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: heard somebody say that, Yeah, that he's he's a little

861
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: bit more prototypical as a defensive end in a three

862
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: four than he wasn't tackle in the four to three.

863
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: But we'll see. Mike Hoyt I think fits into this

864
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: really well as an outside Guy's a stand up guy,

865
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: no question. So we'll see, but they'll I don't know.

866
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: I don't three four four three. The simple fact the

867
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 2: matter is even the Bills would go in a nickel

868
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: front sometimes. Now I don't say nickel meaning five defensive backs,

869
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Speaker 2: I mean five guys up like a fifty, like a

870
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: fifty front. They did that sum and have the ability

871
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: to do that even out of a four to three.

872
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: So these NFL defense is, while they may be in

873
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: their base defense a three four four to three classic,

874
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: they do have the ability on a week to week

875
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: basis to kind of transform that and use four four

876
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: three tendencies.

877
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: Three four of the hybrid.

878
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: You can bet that they will start out with the

879
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: concepts of that, and they will start it will start

880
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: to morph into where they're getting the most production. So yeah,

881
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: and they'll they'll do what they think gives the offense

882
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: the most problems, but they can that they can still run.

883
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: But knowing that, I think it's safe to say that

884
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: the Bills will be on the hunt, whether it's free

885
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: agency or the draft, for defensive players with position flexibility.

886
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: I think that you can equivocally mark down as a

887
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: trait that they're gonna be looking for.

888
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna they're gonna get. Yes, they're gonna start looking

889
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: for guys with skill sets that that maybe are a

890
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: little different than what we've been seeing. Yeah, seeing them

891
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: go for so with that, free agency is gonna tell

892
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: us I think some things about the It will allow

893
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: us to look behind the curtain a little bit because

894
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: of their actions.

895
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: Gotta take a break here. When we come back Our

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00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: number two is gonna begin with Broncos beat reporter for

897
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: ESPN Jeff Legbald. We're gonna talk to him about some

898
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: of the coaching acquisitions that Joe Brady has pulled from

899
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: the Broncos coaching staff. We'll do that when we return

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00:48:41,400 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Lot. This One Bill's Live, presented

901
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: by Kalida Health. All right, second hour of the show

902
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: here on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

903
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: thanks for tuning in. Joining us now is the Broncos

904
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: beat reporter for ESPN. It's Jeff Legwall joining us as

905
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: we wanted to kind of bend his ear a little

906
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: bit about some of the coaching staff acquisitions that Joe

907
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: Brady has made in the wake of being named head

908
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: coach here in Buffalo. And I would imagine Jeff that

909
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: as soon as you saw Joe Brady was named to

910
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: the position, maybe some in Denver breathe a sigh of

911
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: relief because that meant Davis Webb wasn't going to be

912
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: the head coach, because he also interviewed for the job.

913
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: But I think knowing that you probably were well aware

914
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, Joe had some time

915
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: in New Orleans with a lot of the members of

916
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: Sean payton staff that the potential existed to lose a

917
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: couple of coaches, and Pete Carmichael might have been first

918
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: on the list. How much did you anticipate his potential departure,

919
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: knowing he was only listed as a senior offensive assistant

920
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: there on Peyton's staff.

921
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 12: Well, I think he you know, he's spent with Sean

922
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 12: a long time, right, I think thirteen years on his

923
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 12: Saints staff in the New Orleans, and you know Sean

924
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 12: was quick to bring him here two seasons ago, so,

925
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 12: you know, an important voice for Sean along the way.

926
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 12: But obviously Joe and Pete hit it off when they

927
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 12: were they were on the Saints staff together, and I

928
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 12: think Pete Pete's generally considered a you know, good and

929
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 12: this dynamic where maybe the head coaches the play caller

930
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 12: and us the coordinator are in a more of a

931
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 12: grinded out support role, and you know that voice in

932
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 12: the headset on game day that's important, you know, to

933
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 12: the play caller. But I think, uh, it is part

934
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 12: of a makeover here too. I think I think Pete knew, uh,

935
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 12: there may be changes coming. I mean, Joe Lombardi, the

936
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 12: offensive coordinator, another long time Peyton assistant, was fired right

937
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 12: after the season.

938
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 5: So I think some of this is it's good for.

939
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 12: Pete uh to be to be back with Joe, and

940
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 12: obviously you get a quarterback, you know, like Josh Allen

941
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 12: to to game plan for. But I'm I'm certain Sean

942
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 12: endorsed this and was happy for him, and and you know,

943
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 12: I think he will be a good veteran voice for

944
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 12: for Joe Brady as he moves into the head coach.

945
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: Has this, has this, you know, kind of dust settles

946
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 2: from all these coaching shuffles, and there's always a little

947
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 2: bit of staff tweaking around the league, even for head

948
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: coaches who keep their job. What kind of is there

949
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: gonna be any kind of seismic shift there?

950
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 12: Well, I think everybody's kind of waiting to see, if

951
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 12: you know, if Davis Webb stays, who is kind of

952
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 12: the hot young name, is Sean going to have to

953
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 12: give him more of a play calling voice. So Sean's

954
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 12: been very resistant and has emphatically swatted the thought away

955
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 12: that he would not call plays here in some fashion.

956
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 12: But that was before they you know, scored one touchdown

957
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 12: in an AFC Championship loss, you know, snow or no snow.

958
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 12: And their offensive issues this year probably the biggest reason

959
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 12: they're not in San Francisco, you know right now. They

960
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 12: did finish with a great record, but they were twenty

961
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 12: ninth and three and outs this year. Their big play

962
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 12: total was down in the middle of the pack. And

963
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 12: you know, you look at those things, and that the

964
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 12: four teams in the championship weekend, in the AFC NFC

965
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 12: Championship game, the Broncos, you know, we're the only team

966
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 12: of the four not in the top four in big plays.

967
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 12: So he's got a concern here, and he admitted it

968
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 12: at the season end or that he's got to look

969
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 12: closely at what he's Obviously, this playbook has been with

970
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 12: him for a very long time, and I think that's why,

971
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 12: you know, he that side of the ball. He's been

972
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 12: surrounded by trusted longtime assistants Joe Lombardi, Peke Carmichael, Johnny

973
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 12: Morton was here before he went to Detroit.

974
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 5: And then was later fired.

975
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 12: But but Johnny, you know, they were all on the

976
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 12: staff here. So I think Sean is taking a hard

977
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 12: look at it. And but like I say, I think

978
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 12: whenever you're a first time NFL head coach, I think

979
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 12: it's important for you to have people you trust around

980
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 12: you who will tell you the things you need to hear.

981
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 5: And I think Carmichael can be that for Joe Brady.

982
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: Because it was interesting. I'll tell you what the outside

983
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: perception was here. After we saw Joe Lombardi get pink slipped,

984
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: we were like, Oh, he's probably leaving that job open

985
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: in case he needs to elevate Davis Webb to the

986
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: OC there to hold on to him. But then in

987
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: the same breath, there was part of me also thinking,

988
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: if Joe Brady doesn't get the job here in Buffalo,

989
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: Sean Payton might pick him as his OC. How realistic

990
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: was that possibility had Joe Brady not gotten the head

991
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: coaching job here.

992
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think that would be I would have been

993
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 12: intriguing to watch, you know. I do think their focus

994
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 12: right now is if Davis stays the big thing here,

995
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 12: and you guys have seen it up close there with

996
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 12: your the quarterback there is Davis Webb and bow Nicks.

997
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 12: That's been an important part of bow Nicks's development is

998
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 12: if your head coach is the play caller. There has

999
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 12: to be in a bridge in there, somewhere between the

1000
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 12: quarterback and the head coach and Davis Webb that may

1001
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 12: be far beyond his tactical expertise and his knowledge of

1002
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 12: the playbook. One of his best traits may be navigating

1003
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 12: a very fiery head coach and Sean Payton and a

1004
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 12: very strong willed quarterback in in bow Nicks. And you know,

1005
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 12: I don't I don't think. I don't think it works

1006
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 12: without the bridge. If if the quarterback in the in

1007
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 12: the head coach have sort of no go between, uh,

1008
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 12: when the head coach is a play caller, I think

1009
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 12: that could be tough on people involved. So Davis's role

1010
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 12: here is really important. Uh, But they're gonna lose him

1011
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,959
Speaker 12: at some point if they don't let him call plays here.

1012
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 5: That's the bottom line.

1013
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 12: You know, he's gonna want to call plays, He's gonna

1014
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 12: want to be a head coach. He's going to want

1015
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 12: to do those things. And if Sean isn't going to

1016
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 12: surrender that at some point, then that ultimately will be

1017
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 12: why he would leave here to go elsewhere. And I

1018
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 12: think if you're Joe Brady and you want to be

1019
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 12: a head coach, come in here and you don't call plays.

1020
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 12: I think that's a I think that's a big conversation

1021
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 12: to have for any of the guys who would have

1022
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 12: that job here.

1023
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: Has he has he replaced Joe Lombardi yet?

1024
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 5: No, he has not.

1025
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 12: He's interviewed a couple of people, including Ronald Curry, who

1026
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 12: has worked with him on his Saints staff before. He's

1027
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 12: obviously talked to Davis about it. But he did say,

1028
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 12: or he has told people I know, and it's my

1029
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 12: understanding that the Lombardi move was made without any consideration

1030
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 12: about Davis Webb's future what might happen there. That was

1031
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 12: a move Sean made because he felt like it was time.

1032
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 12: And I am certain Joe Lombardi was probably the most

1033
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 12: surprised of anyone when.

1034
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 5: The move was made.

1035
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 12: They've they've been together fifteen years, and that happened pretty

1036
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 12: quickly after the season ended. But Sean does have a

1037
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 12: saying he says often, and that's higher slow and fire fast.

1038
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 12: And that's exactly what he did.

1039
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: And to that end, you know, he loses Jim Leonard

1040
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: as well to Buffalo, who was, you know, a defensive

1041
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: pass game coordinator and assistant head coach the last couple

1042
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: of years there in Denver, But it's hard not to

1043
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: think that he was a defensive coordinator in waiting in

1044
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: anticipation perhaps of losing Vance Joseph at some point or another. Now,

1045
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: he wasn't supremely popular in this coaching cycle with ten

1046
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: head coaching jobs open, and John Payton's probably pretty thankful

1047
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: for that, but at the same time he probably loses

1048
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator lying in wait on his staff in Leonard.

1049
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: What can you tell us just in maybe the few

1050
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: instances you've been around Jimmy, just about how he's matured

1051
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: as a coach, knowing he's been a play caller before,

1052
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: albeit at the college level.

1053
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, and actually I covered Jim's time here

1054
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 12: as a player too because I'm old. But I think

1055
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 12: that was an indication to me that the feeling in

1056
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 12: house was was Vance was was not going to get

1057
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 12: one of the ten jobs. You know, I find it

1058
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 12: hard to believe that ten teams had an opening and

1059
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 12: haven't watched what Van Vance Joseph has done the last

1060
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 12: two years and not hired him. But that's a longer

1061
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 12: conversation for another day. But they liked Jim here and

1062
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 12: I think it shows me that Jim heard what he

1063
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 12: wanted to hear from the Bills, because he has said

1064
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 12: very often he wasn't just going to leave just to

1065
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 12: leave here. Got resources here, They have the richest ownership

1066
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 12: group in the league. Here, they have a state of

1067
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 12: the art new facility they're going to open in May.

1068
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 12: Their ability to get free agents and resign their own

1069
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 12: players is going to be, you know, sort of unquestioned.

1070
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 12: You know, they're gonna be able to do what they

1071
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 12: want to do resource wise here. So guys aren't just

1072
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 12: gonna leave here just to take a job for no reason.

1073
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 12: So he obviously felt very good about what Joe Brady

1074
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 12: told him. And he you know, I've when I've spoken

1075
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 12: to him about where do you want to go from here?

1076
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 12: Type of thing he's He's always said he was going

1077
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 12: to be very particular about the job he took and

1078
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 12: what it would take for him to do that.

1079
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 5: But he tactically.

1080
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 12: I think you'll see a lot of elements of what

1081
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 12: he and Vance put together here.

1082
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 5: You know, a.

1083
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 12: Aggressive pass rush, a lot of simulated pressures. You know,

1084
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Speaker 12: Broncos led the league in sack this year, was sixty eight,

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Speaker 12: and they often rush just four to do that, but

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Speaker 12: it's not the four you would expect. It can be

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Speaker 12: two dbs. It can be a linebacker and a d ND.

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Speaker 12: It can be the four up front guys, It can

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Speaker 12: be you know, the just the mix and match simulated

1090
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Speaker 12: pressure element of it is important here and and they

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Speaker 12: play a lot of matchup zones that look like man

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Speaker 12: uh to the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 12: And I think you'll see a lot of that as well.

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Speaker 12: You know, Jim was a big part of the the

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Speaker 12: passing game game plans, so that that mix of the

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Speaker 12: simulated pressures and the and the uh, you know, sort

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Speaker 12: of that matchup zone.

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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 5: I think, well, you guys will see moving.

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01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: Forward, give us an idea of what you think this

1102
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: the atmosphere in the league now ten openings, Uh, that

1103
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: seemed surprising, and of course Harball was a surprise. I

1104
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: think Mike Tomlin stepping away was a surprise. So there's

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Speaker 2: still eight and I think McDermott was a surprise for

1106
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Speaker 2: a lot of people around the league as well. What

1107
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Speaker 2: is your thought about, you know, kind of this rent

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Speaker 2: through the coaching ranks in the NFL.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, this was my fortieth season covering the league,

1110
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 12: and I there just seems to be a more of

1111
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 12: a you know, if the team especially loses before they're

1112
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Speaker 12: supposed to, there just seems to be this notion that

1113
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 12: somebody's got to pay the price, that there has to

1114
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 12: be a firing. I don't think you see as much

1115
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Speaker 12: as you used to team saying or an owner saying, oh,

1116
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 12: we're on the right path, let's hang in for one

1117
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 12: more year. I think a lot of coordinators and head

1118
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 12: coaches now, if there is even a hint of underachievement,

1119
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Speaker 12: you're probably not getting another you know, bite at the apple,

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Speaker 12: as it were. You're probably on your way out. And

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Speaker 12: I think I think that's the timelines are a lot

1122
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 12: shorter now. I know people coaches in the league who think, well,

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Speaker 12: I'll take this head coaching job, and boy, I hope.

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Speaker 5: I make it three years.

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Speaker 12: And that's not how people used to approach this sort

1126
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Speaker 12: of thing. But you know, it's it's a different deal now.

1127
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Speaker 12: The money's bigger, the stakes are higher, and I think

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Speaker 12: social media has allowed owners, frankly, to see what the

1129
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 12: temperature is when they've been now been able you know,

1130
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 12: the water cooder was really a water cooler before now

1131
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 12: it's the Internet and you know, it's everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that has been exacerbated by some teams

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Speaker 2: like a New England Patriot team who went from three

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Speaker 2: and thirteen to three and fourteen to fourteen and three

1135
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Speaker 2: with one year and in large as you're a roster

1136
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Speaker 2: that doesn't look all that different from the one they

1137
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Speaker 2: had a year ago.

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Speaker 5: Oh, definitely, there's no question.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 12: I think I think owners are you know, humans. We

1141
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 12: sometimes forget, you know, that they're in this ownership position,

1142
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 12: and we think that they're in this this bubble. They're

1143
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 12: just as they're like everybody else. They're like looking around saying, well,

1144
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,959
Speaker 12: how come my team can't do that? You know, why

1145
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 12: can't we go from four wins to fourteen or you know,

1146
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 12: from seven wins to the playoffs? H And I just

1147
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 12: think that's that's part of the conversation now where you know,

1148
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 12: I think the Steelers are anomaly. I mean they've had

1149
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 12: three coaches you know, up to Tomlins since the sixties,

1150
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 12: since the merger. I mean that's you know, unheard of,

1151
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 12: and it'll be interesting to see how they do it

1152
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 12: moving forward. They've been the model of of being that Okay,

1153
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 12: let's just ride it out one more year and see

1154
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 12: what happens. And they were sort of the last island.

1155
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 12: And now that they may have joined the rest of

1156
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 12: the league, you know, I think we're now you know,

1157
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 12: it's uh, I think it's I think that's why you

1158
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 12: see so many head coaches going for that five and

1159
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 12: six year deal, because they know if they get fired,

1160
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 12: you know, three years in or four years and uh,

1161
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 12: you know, they at least have a buffer, yeah, to

1162
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 12: move on with.

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Speaker 1: Last one I've got for you, Jeff, I know that

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Speaker 1: you know. Kirie Colbert, the receivers coach, was also let

1165
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: go by Sean Payton there in Denver. My question to

1166
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: you is, were were there any assistants on Peyton's staff

1167
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: that were particularly tight with Carmichael or Leonard that you

1168
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: think might follow them to Buffalo, you know, in an

1169
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: assistant role of any capacity.

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Speaker 5: That would be intriguing.

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01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 12: I think the offensive staff had a little more previous

1172
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 12: working relationship with each other the defensive staff. Vans's staff

1173
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 12: was more you know, hiring guys regardless of you know,

1174
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 12: if they had coached with Vance before or not. So

1175
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 12: I think on the offensive side, maybe, you know, I

1176
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 12: think it would be hard to get Zach Streef from here.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't see that this is happening.

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01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 12: He's an assistant head coach here, the offensive line coach

1179
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Speaker 12: and very respected.

1180
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 12: And you know they've made him the run game coordinator,

1182
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 12: so he's got a lot of titles and things they

1183
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 12: would almost have to give him. And I don't think

1184
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 12: he would leave, frankly, but a guy like that would

1185
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 12: have been in a different situation, probably a target in

1186
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 12: some ways.

1187
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff, thanks for the time. We appreciate it, and

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Speaker 1: we'll catch up with you down the line here in

1189
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Speaker 1: the offseason.

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Speaker 12: I was a former Rochester Democrat and Chronicle alum nineteen

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01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 12: ninety four.

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01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 5: It was great to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Ye, great, Thanks thanks for having us ESPN Broncos beat

1194
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: reporter Jeff Legwall joining us, And yeah, he's been at

1195
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: it for a long time, so we appreciate his time.

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01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was curious because you always wonder if there's tight

1198
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: relationships on coaching staffs and somebody leaves for a promotion.

1199
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes someone who they're closely associated with on the previous staff.

1200
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: They might be like, hey, I can probably get you

1201
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: a role, particularly somebody like Leonard who's running the defense

1202
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: for an offensive minded head coach, he might say, Hey,

1203
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: can I bring this guy over as the safety's coach

1204
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: with me from Denver? And you know he'll fed him

1205
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: out and be like, oh yeah, you know. So that's

1206
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: why I figured i'd ask to see if there were

1207
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Speaker 1: any close relationships there. I mean, Leonard had only been

1208
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: in Denver a couple of years, and as you heard

1209
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: Jeff say, that side of the ball had been more

1210
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: piece together staff wise than the offensive side, most of

1211
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: whom had worked with Sean Payton previously in New Orleans.

1212
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: So I was just curious if he had a name

1213
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: that he thought could be a possibility.

1214
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Speaker 2: It gets to the point where you get the feeling,

1215
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: and we talked about it when these teams are changing

1216
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: head coaches here in Buffalo two before Joe Brady was hired,

1217
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: how long do you wait to get the guy right?

1218
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: Do you wait until Clint Kubiak is available? Do you

1219
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: wait until the other guys are available, the Rams are

1220
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: out of the playoff, all this stuff, and the time

1221
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: starts to become of the essence. And I think that

1222
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: once the head coach is hired, and I don't know,

1223
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 2: I would think to some extent, this happens in the times.

1224
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: Outside of the times you're interviewing as a head coach candidate,

1225
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 2: you're on the phone with guys you hope or think

1226
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: or perhaps have a chance at getting as assistants. Right,

1227
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: taking the temperature of the room of the guys you

1228
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: know or guys in the in the field that hey,

1229
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 2: what about being an assistant? I know, hey, hey, buddy,

1230
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: I know we talked about this five years ago when

1231
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: we were both in x X team together. What do

1232
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: you think? How's it going for you there? Do you

1233
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 2: want to change the scenery? All of those conversations have

1234
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: got to happen. And because it's not it's not like

1235
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: the corporate world where you say we're gonna accept resumes

1236
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: and we're gonna sift through these resumes. There ain't no,

1237
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: ain't nobody got time for that, you know, so you

1238
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta jump. And if a guy's got a

1239
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: chance at it, you kind of like him and he

1240
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 2: looks good. I mean that it sounds really piecemeal, but

1241
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: it's a little more into it than that. But yeah,

1242
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: it's I think that I think the time crunch becomes

1243
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 2: really evidently you don't want after the head coaches.

1244
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: You don't want to leave your head coach hamstrung in

1245
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: assembling a staff, because that's the most important thing he

1246
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: has to do, particularly in year one exactly. And so

1247
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 1: if the bills had waited two weeks and let's just

1248
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: say Kubiak picks the raiders anyway, now, whether it's Kubiak

1249
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: or somebody else, they're two weeks behind everybody else assembling staffs.

1250
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: And you don't get pick one. You don't get pick A,

1251
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,959
Speaker 1: pick B. You're choosing pick seas.

1252
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: And dep'st we don't ever think about it in these

1253
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: terms for another twelve months. When like Sean Payton, who's

1254
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: not lost his job, he says, I don't like the

1255
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 2: way the staff's working. You're out. You're out. And by

1256
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 2: the way you over there, you're out too. If the

1257
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: staff's not working. And it may not be that he

1258
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 2: had to hurry or that he was late in signing

1259
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 2: his staff two years ago when he got the job,

1260
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 2: but it wasn't working. And you don't know, some of

1261
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 2: these guys don't work together. They come in and it's

1262
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 2: like oil and water sometimes or it's like, wow, we

1263
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: got that's working really good, A good head coach who

1264
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: is a finger quotes CEO. You got to make some

1265
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 2: tough calls after one year saying hey, this ain't working.

1266
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: Speaking of assembling coaching staffs, the Ravens have announced that

1267
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: they are they're expected to hire Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony

1268
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: Weaver for the same role. Weaver worked for the Ravens

1269
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: for three seasons from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three,

1270
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: and he was actually interviewed twice for the head coaching

1271
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: job there in Baltimore this offseason. The job ultimately went

1272
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: to Jesse Minter, but now Minter looks like he's going

1273
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: to bring him on as his defensive coordinator on that staff.

1274
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: Got to take a break here, but we're going to

1275
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 1: get back to the phone calls when we return. As

1276
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: we are asking you today, what do you see as

1277
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: the biggest difference with the bills recent coordinator hires eight

1278
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: oh three, five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty

1279
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: two to five fifty open lines for you there here

1280
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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo

1281
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: Bill's Raider. What do you see is the biggest difference

1282
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: with the Bill's recent coordinator hires. You got Jim Leonard

1283
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 1: on defense, Pete Carmichael offense, Jeff Rodgers on space teams.

1284
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: You tell us at eight O three oh five fifty

1285
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty those in

1286
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: the numbers to join us, got open lines for you.

1287
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: But we leave this segment off with Mark in Tanawanda.

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01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: What do you got for his Mark?

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01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. Hey, I just

1290
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 13: wanted to run these ideas by you. You guys think

1291
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 13: that a new defensive coordinator comes in and says, hey,

1292
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 13: you know, Brandon Bean, are these household names like at

1293
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 13: Oliver or like a Greg Russ. They're not gonna They're

1294
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 13: not gonna fit my scheme as well with what I

1295
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 13: want to do on defense. Take calls on these guys.

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Speaker 13: And I was actually comparing Russeau's numbers to aj Apanessa's numbers,

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Speaker 13: and yeah, he's got seven and a half sacks and

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01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 13: AJ only has two and a half. Rousseau plays way more.

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01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 13: But when you compare other than that, you know, you

1300
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 13: compare those two, epaness is a much cheaper option. I'm

1301
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 13: just saying that's not what I want to do. But

1302
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 13: for cap manipulation and it you know, you can't buy

1303
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 13: champagne with beer money. If you want to make moves

1304
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 13: and you want to be aggressive, are we gonna, you know,

1305
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 13: would you guys consider saying goodbye to some of these

1306
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 13: household names that we love in order to fit the

1307
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 13: new defensive coordinators schemes and doing something like that? And uh,

1308
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 13: I want to know your guys' thoughts on that. I'm

1309
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 13: gonna have to listen to you boys.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Mark, Mark.

1311
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: It's an interesting question, and it's a you're coming at

1312
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 2: it from the right angle. Who's giving you value for

1313
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: what you're paying them? Who is? And let me just

1314
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: ask which players play at a high enough level so

1315
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: it's to make them indispensable on the defensive side of

1316
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 2: the ball. Will stay, We'll say, who? Or shows enough

1317
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 2: promise that you don't want to let it go like

1318
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: a guy like Dion Walker, he ain't going anywhere, or

1319
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: maybe Cole Bishop, Cole Bishop's not going anywhere? Who else?

1320
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: Who on that who is like Lawrence Taylor, Bruce Smith,

1321
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 2: Steph Gilmour, Durell Reeves. Who on that defensive roster is

1322
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 2: untouchable for you? Who's untouchable for you, that's what you

1323
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: got to go in the coaching staff. You're saying, well,

1324
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: they can all be untouchable unless somebody says, well, we

1325
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 2: got this for you instead. Yeah, then it's a different story.

1326
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: In fairness to Greg Russeau, I will tell you that

1327
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: he's led the team in sacks each of the last

1328
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: two years. He's also led the team in tackles for loss,

1329
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: and he's also led the team in quarterback hits each

1330
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: of the last two years. You're right, he does play

1331
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: a good amount of football, but these last two years

1332
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: he's also been healthy, which you can't really say for

1333
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: a lot of other guys, and availability is important.

1334
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: The other part of that is.

1335
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: When Joe Brady interviewed Jim Leonard, they went over all

1336
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: of those things. You better believe that he asked him

1337
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: questions about the current personnel and who fits and who doesn't,

1338
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: and what kind of level of player turn on are

1339
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: we looking at, And they probably talked to being about

1340
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 1: that well as well. Knowing there's a cap situation to

1341
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: manage and manipulate, and there's potentially limits to how much

1342
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: it can be manipulated. So if there has to be

1343
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: a lot of player turnover, because there are too many

1344
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: players on the current roster not deemed as fits. That

1345
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: has to be hashed out and a plan has to

1346
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: be put together, a viable one.

1347
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: Here's what it comes down to. And because as a

1348
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 2: pro athlete, I mean we talk about that they know

1349
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: new head coach. Everything's up in the air, right, They

1350
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: don't know what this is going to look like. And

1351
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: even though they may know the guy and have been

1352
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 2: coached by him, like in Buffalo's case with Joe Brady,

1353
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: but every player on the rosters looking himself go how

1354
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: hard am I to replace? And do I? And is

1355
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 2: it more enticing for them? Because I don't fit their

1356
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: skill setres the skill set they're wanting me to do?

1357
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 2: How economical would it be for them to replace me?

1358
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 2: What am I looking at here? What's this landscape going

1359
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: to look at? A lot of this we don't know,

1360
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: but certainly on the defensive side of the ball and

1361
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 2: the offensive side to a certain extent, there's got to

1362
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: be guys on the on the roster going, well, I

1363
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm gonna fit. And they can see

1364
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: they can they see their contract, they see the salary cap,

1365
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 2: they know how how hard is it to replace the guy,

1366
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 2: and more importantly, how hard is it to replace him

1367
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 2: cheaper at an upgrade with skill level or even with

1368
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: comparable or with comparable skill level at a much lower

1369
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: right rate if you're not I mean, if you're getting

1370
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 2: three sacks a year and you're playing fifty percent of

1371
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 2: the snaps and you're making eight figures, that is not

1372
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: going to get it done. You know what I mean

1373
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: That I'm exaggerating. I don't know if there's anybody on

1374
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: the roster like that, but there you go. That's that's

1375
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 2: the math you do in your head. Am I playing

1376
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: really good football at a low salary, I'm not going

1377
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: anywhere but any gray area between that and making a

1378
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: lot of money getting no production. That's the ends of

1379
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: the spectrum you're talking about when you're sitting there as

1380
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 2: a professional football player and you're looking at yourself in

1381
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: the mirror and you're taking it all in, going, man,

1382
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: I'm a little too far to one into the other

1383
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 2: of that spectrum.

1384
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's some of the decision making that's gonna

1385
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: have to happen this offseason. And there's gonna I can

1386
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 1: tell you right now, there are gonna be some uncomfortable

1387
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: conversations between the personnel and the coaching staff as to

1388
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: who is deemed expendable right and how they can be

1389
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: packaged to be moved off the roster if they're under

1390
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: contract for the foreseeable future, what kind of cap hit

1391
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: the team can absorb when they're trying to create cap dollars,

1392
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: not give themselves more dead cap. So, yeah, there are

1393
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: a lot of those conversations are gonna have to happen

1394
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: between now and the start of free agency.

1395
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: We talk about it a lot. I think there's a

1396
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 2: ton of conversations that go on between general managers in

1397
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 2: the NFL that never get publicized or talked about, and

1398
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 2: we never find out about because you can't throw somebody's

1399
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 2: name into a trade conversation and then have it not

1400
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: be taken seriously by one side or the other or

1401
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: whatever and not have to worry about the guy's feelings

1402
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: getting hurt if that gets out, right, So, there are

1403
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: a lot of conversations about what they think players are worth.

1404
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 2: Those conversations change fundamentally when the scheme changes, or when

1405
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 2: you get a new head coach in there who's not

1406
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: as fond of the guy, or if his skill set

1407
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 2: suddenly becomes less than desirable all of a sudden, There

1408
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 2: are more opperit, there are more conversations you can open

1409
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: about the guy's availability. Listen, he's he's a little more

1410
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 2: available now than he was a month ago because of

1411
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: where we sit with a salary cap and the skills

1412
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: that we need from the guy. So that all changes

1413
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: when you change head coaches, and particularly when he changed coordinators.

1414
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: And this is you know, it's not just when you

1415
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 2: change coordinators. It's also a more fundamental switch when a

1416
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 2: whole new defensive staff comes in and you've got a

1417
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 2: chance of running a three for set of a four

1418
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: to three and all the stuff that goes with that. Yeah,

1419
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: it's a more fundamental shift. So all of this stuff

1420
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: becomes conversation with other gms.

1421
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: And you know the player you brought up, Greg Rousseau.

1422
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 1: I think you have to remember he just signed a

1423
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: contract extension last year. It's a four year, eighty million

1424
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: dollar deal. And I think even if you wanted to

1425
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: move him to make it palatable for the bills cap,

1426
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: it's a trade that would probably have to happen after June. First,

1427
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: you'd have to agree to the terms with the other team,

1428
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: you know obviously long before that, and then it gets

1429
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: executed after June first, because then you know your cap

1430
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: hit is much more palatable via trade post June first.

1431
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: Right, and Brousseau, I mean it's an eleven million dollar

1432
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: cap hit.

1433
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you trade him after June first this year,

1434
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: if you trade him after June first, it's three and

1435
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: a half in dead money.

1436
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: So right now it's a thirty two million dollar cap hit.

1437
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: Trade him and they take on all that extra all

1438
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 2: that money, then it's significantly better.

1439
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: Let's crack o, what were you gonna say?

1440
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 2: That also means if you're if you're wanting if and

1441
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 2: this is just Greg grew so this is not we're

1442
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 2: not saying Greg rus So this is gonna happen or

1443
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: anything like that. This is just an that's right, the

1444
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: caller brought his name up. If you're moving on and

1445
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 2: you're decided to do it, that means a team can

1446
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 2: grab him for way less because you want the salary

1447
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 2: cap relief, you want the money to spend on the

1448
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 2: new guy that you're gonna roll the dice on. So

1449
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: Greg Russou goes from being like, give us a second

1450
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 2: round pick for him, to give us a sixth round

1451
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 2: pick for him and take the money with him. That

1452
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. It becomes a much different trade conversation

1453
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,919
Speaker 2: than it would have a month ago when Greg Russo's

1454
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: not going anywhere. Yeah right, so, yeah, it's there's stuff

1455
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 2: we don't know.

1456
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: Let's crack open the tweet sheet, which is brought to

1457
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

1458
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, where Kenny says the biggest difference

1459
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 1: with the Bill's coordinator hires is Jim Leonard by far,

1460
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: aggressive defense versus reactionary defense like we've been doing. In

1461
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: my opinion, Yeah, if there was one criticism for the

1462
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 1: Bill's defensive scheme under Sean McDermott, it was too much

1463
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: read and react, too much bend but don't break. Now,

1464
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 1: I think the argument can be made that lacking superstars

1465
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,759
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball may have partially

1466
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: forced their hand to play that.

1467
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 2: Way and playing and playing compromary football with an offense

1468
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 2: they knew was going was gonna out outlast the other offense.

1469
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, you may you may be disenchanted with

1470
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: the approach, but that approach might have been done for

1471
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: specific reasons, but yes, I think people are encouraged knowing

1472
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: that the scheme that we anticipate Leonard bringing will be

1473
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: one that is significantly more aggressive and more about dictating

1474
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: to an opposing offense what the play is going to be.

1475
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:41,520
Speaker 1: Then that easier said than done in some circumstances.

1476
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: And as much as you might have disliked the philosophy

1477
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: on either side of the ball of the Bill's offense

1478
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: or defensive us, this is a team that is contending

1479
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: every year. And that's the floor and right, I mean.

1480
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: Far and away the leader in point differential over the

1481
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: last six seas.

1482
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 2: So we said this in the during the head coaching search.

1483
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: The floor is extremely high in Buffalo. The expectations are

1484
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: still going to be there for a new head coach.

1485
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: And that doesn't change because it's Joe, you know, it's

1486
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,719
Speaker 2: still if people expect this team to be really, really

1487
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 2: good again, no matter what their defense looks like.

1488
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to Jim in Orchard Park.

1489
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 14: What's up, Jim, oh Fellas, Listen, I've got something that's

1490
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 14: on my mind back from that Denver game. I'm no

1491
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 14: football guru, but I can't understand this rule. When I

1492
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 14: went into overtime, Buffalo won a toss, they gave the

1493
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 14: ball of Denver, Denver did not score, Buffalo gets the

1494
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 14: ball back, Buffalo did not score.

1495
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,719
Speaker 15: Now we got to give the ball back to Denver again,

1496
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 15: and if they score a touchdown on a field goal,

1497
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 15: they win the game. That's the end of it, right.

1498
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 2: It would have been the end of it if Buffalo

1499
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 2: had scored at all, If Buffalo would have taken a safety,

1500
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 2: Denver would have won the game.

1501
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 15: So why would we give the if we win a

1502
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 15: toss on overtime, why would we give the ball to

1503
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 15: the other.

1504
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: Team, Because because you're gonna get it, you're guaranteed a possession.

1505
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: The overtime rules are each team is guaranteed a possession.

1506
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: So the theory there is if they get the ball

1507
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: and they're only they only manage a field goal, now

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01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: you know what you need to go win the game

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01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 1: because they've had their possession. If they don't score at all,

1510
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: which was the case, now, you know, just getting field

1511
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: goal range, kick a field goal, you win the game.

1512
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: If you're the possessor of the ball first, you tend

1513
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: to be a little more aggressive and hope for a touchdown,

1514
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, knowing the other team is going to get

1515
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: a possession.

1516
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: If Denver had gotten a touchdown out of that, now

1517
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: you're in four down territory the whole length of the

1518
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 2: field as well, so you know you got to go score.

1519
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: So that's that's the reason it's both teams are guaranteed

1520
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 2: to possess the ball a lah the Bills Chiefs overtime

1521
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,799
Speaker 2: law us in Kansas City four years ago when Mahomes

1522
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 2: went downscored a touchdown, game over. They change the rules

1523
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 2: so that now both teams will get a chance to

1524
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: match the other score if it does indeed happen. So yes,

1525
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: once one team doesn't score after that, whoever scores next

1526
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: wins period sudden death sudden death.

1527
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: After that, we gotta take a break here. We'll get

1528
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 1: some final thoughts on the tweet sheet, maybe squeeze in

1529
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: a phone call as well. Here on a Monday edition

1530
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: of One Bill's Live, Don't Go Anywhere. The biggest difference

1531
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: you four see for the Bills in light of the

1532
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: coordinator hires and on the tweet sheet, Blt says Bills

1533
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: fans need to remember it will take some time for

1534
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: a Leonard defense to be what he envisions isn't going

1535
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: to be next year, barring perfect drafting and perfect free

1536
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: agency pickups. I'm patient on it because it should be

1537
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: worth the wait. You know, it's a good point that

1538
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 1: he brings up, Steve, because we have not seen this

1539
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: team have to undertake a new scheme in a decade

1540
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: and the transition that that sometimes entails not only through

1541
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: the course of the preseason, but sometimes a month or

1542
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: so into the regular season.

1543
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and they I mean they fought against it

1544
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 2: with injuries and roster stuff all the way through this

1545
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 2: last season. It took them, because of the injuries and

1546
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 2: all the stuff going on till the second half of

1547
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: the season for the defense to actually pick it up

1548
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: and get to the level where they were making plays

1549
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 2: and helping the Bills offense win games. So yeah, it'll

1550
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: take it that at least now they've got a head

1551
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: start on it, right, I mean, they can start right

1552
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 2: away with free agency, right away, with their offseason acquisitions

1553
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: and the conversations and the installations and the OTAs and

1554
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 2: the mini camp training camp obviously, so they can start

1555
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 2: right away. They can, but getting on the field and

1556
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: starting to implement it, yeah this too. I mean, they're

1557
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 2: not inventing anything new, but they are installing new stuff

1558
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: where guys have to learn new words, new phrases, new

1559
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 2: check packages, adjustment packages, all of that. So, yeah, it's

1560
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 2: going to be a minute.

1561
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: RIESPK says. Inexperience and the staff and the scheme tremendously

1562
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: big hire for a first time and relatively inexperienced defensive

1563
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: coordinator will know if this was the right hire in

1564
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: three years or less. All respect respectfully disagree with you.

1565
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: I know it was at the college level, but Jim

1566
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:49,560
Speaker 1: Leonard called plays for six seasons at Wisconsin. It's not

1567
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 1: like colin plays is going to be new to him,

1568
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: or adjusting on the fly within the scope of a

1569
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: game and changing or game plan is going to be

1570
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: something new to him.

1571
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 2: Either.

1572
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: He's done this, yes, for a handful of years already.

1573
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's the same as calling in the NFL,

1574
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 1: but the fact that he's done it before and done

1575
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: it for six seasons and with a great deal of success.

1576
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a number of top five defenses

1577
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: in his time at Wisconsin. Not to mention the fact

1578
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: that I think he also won an Assistant Coach of

1579
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: the Year award in the Big ten as a defensive

1580
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: coordinator there at Wisconsin, so he comes with some chops.

1581
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: He's not as inexperienced as you might think.

1582
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 2: And he played at a high level. And also I

1583
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 2: think he's been sitting at the shoulder of some guys

1584
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 2: who are really good as well this last year, so.

1585
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he was putting it together with Vance Joseph right.

1586
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 2: So he has been on the headset, listening to plays

1587
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 2: getting called and the rationale and the conversations around it

1588
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 2: enough to know it's not going to be an enormous

1589
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 2: step for him to start being the voice that actually

1590
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:54,560
Speaker 2: says it.

1591
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 1: So we'll see Chad says, a move away from people

1592
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: already here getting promotions. That was my biggest drawback to Brady. However,

1593
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: there has been enough strength in both offensive coordinator and

1594
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator that I can look beyond that now with him.

1595
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: Andrew says, I would say with all the new hires

1596
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, you're going to

1597
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: see a way different scheme than McDermott ever Ran, and

1598
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing, time for a change up.

1599
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: Nate says, offense will keep rolling the same, but the

1600
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: defense will decline and rise hopefully by playoff time. This

1601
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: move reminds me of when Buffalo went from Jim Schwartz

1602
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: to Rex Ryan's defense and Mario Williams was standing in Narnia.

1603
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.

1604
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we can all have. It's all conjecture.

1605
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun because as we get to free

1606
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: agency in the draft. This is all just a finger

1607
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: quote and I hated it, but it's just potential, right, Yeah,

1608
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 2: the expectations of the offense are not going to change.

1609
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: In fact, they may be enhanced, right because you got

1610
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 2: the main guy gets to call what you know, there's

1611
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: nobody in his ear saying wait, wait, wait, run it

1612
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 2: here or Pat. It's going to be all him. So

1613
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 2: the potential's there for you know, a shift in gears. Defensively,

1614
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 2: we just got to wait and see.

1615
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: Connor says, on offense, we have a veteran offensive mind

1616
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: who has proven and can help Brady while he is

1617
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: fulfilling head coach responsibilities. On defense, a young and hungary

1618
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: d C who is trying to make a name for himself.

1619
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 1: I love those coordinators, a healthy combination of veteran and upcoming.

1620
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: Let's go probably right about that. Yeah, that's it for

1621
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 1: us today. We'll dive into this more as we move

1622
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: through the course of the week. Steve and I'll see

1623
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: you tomorrow at one