1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Look to the folks at Farm Bureau Health Plans when 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: you need someone who understands the exes and ohs of 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: healthcare coverage. They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: My name is Mike Keith, and this is one of 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: the rare editions of the OTP where Amy Wells is 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: not present because we are recording right after the Friday 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: practice on August the twenty first. Amy Wells doing work 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: for NFL Network and we're very proud of her doing that. 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: But it gives us a chance to welcome in coach 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis and Rhett Brian in pench hitting roles. For 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: it takes two people to replace Amy Wells. No doubt 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: we still can't replace Amy what he said. So good 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: to be here at Nissan Stadium for a practice today 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: to watch this team sort of wrap up the first 16 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: week of full pad's work. David McGinnis, your thoughts on 17 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: the whole week, Well, I think the whole week culminated 18 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: in this practice today and it's exactly what Mike Vrabel 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: wanted to do. I've said before on various of our 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: outlets here. I'm really impressed with the organization as to 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: what he's done in this very very different type of 22 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: training camp that we're going to have. They hit the 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: ground running when they came out. Everything is highly organized, 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: it's very precise, and this today he was able to 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: get a lot of things done. The crowd noise that 26 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: they piped in here, I thought was very good. The 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: energy at this practice was excellent. This is a great 28 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: way to cap the week off. What's the story on 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: the crowd noise? Is that something we're going to have 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: through the course of the season. Rat I believe it is, 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: And in fact I got an email from the NFL 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: late last night saying that actually our broadcast would be 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: provided with that. So yeah, it is something that's going 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: to be I think thirty two teams wide, so everybody 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: will kind to be standard then is Yeah, it's interesting. 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Why what do you think just to give it a 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: flow of feel, a feel And I had that feel 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: up here today. I mean we all we all commented 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: when we were up here in the broadcast booth watching 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: practice today, it felt like a game. I mean there 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: was nobody in here but everything that came off and 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: let's be honest, and I know all of our listeners 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: feel like this too. You know, this game is an 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: emotional game. It's an emotional game, and the crowd is 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: a huge part of that emotion. I like the way 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: they did it today. It didn't seem as artificial as 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: I thought it might. Mike, the first most normal thing 48 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: I've done in six months was go to the first 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Titans training camp practice at St. Thomas Sports Park. Today 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: at Nissan Stadium. The second most normal thing, yes, no fans, 51 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: but between the simulated elements and as Coach Max says, 52 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: the energy the piped in noise, and just how well 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: run it is. Because you know that Mike Vrabel knows 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: exactly what he wants to do in this thing, knows 55 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: that these young guys, these undrafteds and his draft class 56 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: did not have and will not have an opportunity to 57 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: play in four preseason games. So this is the most 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: realistic it's going to be before we get to September 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: the twentieth against Jacksonville. And so he wanted them to 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: go through all of their paces in this and driving 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: to the stadium, coming into the tunnel, getting into the 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: locker room, and all of the things that lead up 63 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: to kick off. That's exactly right. I mean, he wanted 64 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: them to experience it because a professional football player, the 65 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: one thing that they all crave. They crave consistency, and 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: they crave being able to know exactly what's going to happen. 67 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: Because their focus on game day is so much on 68 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: what's going to go on for three hours. They don't 69 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: want any distractions, and so they crave normalcy. They crave 70 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: knowing exactly what their routine is going to be. This 71 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: was a big step towards just what Ritt was talking about, Mike, 72 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: creatures of habit. That's where we are and that's what 73 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: they are, felt like. The defense closed the week strong, 74 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis. They really did. And we're sitting up here 75 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: watching it and just commenting on some things. Now, Look, 76 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: this is a veteran defense, this defense, you know, and 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: we can't give away what we see what they're doing 78 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: against our offense. But I thought Jayon Brown today had 79 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: an excellent, excellent practice. His practice today. I really enjoy 80 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: watching he and Rashaun Evans work together. Now, you know, 81 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: and that's something you know, that symbiotic relationship that linebackers 82 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: behind the ball have to have. It's just about like 83 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: the connection that a quarterback and receiver has to have. 84 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: They sometimes have to know where each other are and 85 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: what they're going to do without talking about it. I 86 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: love the way those two are working together. Keith Bullock 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: has always talked about so he came to the Titans 88 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: and Jim Schwartz coached him, and then Gunther Cunningham coached him, 89 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: and then you coached him. And he always talked about 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: one of the things is all of the those coaches 91 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: were perfect at those moments in time. At the moment 92 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: you came in, Keith said he needed Mac. He said 93 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: to go to a different level. I needed coach Mac 94 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: for these two linebackers, the starters, and for David Long 95 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: as well. How important is the timing of the arrival 96 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: of Jim Haslett for them at this point in their careers. 97 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Is going to bring a different element than Tyrone did. 98 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean he really is just because of where he is. 99 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Jim Haslett is a thirty plus year coach 100 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and his ability that he's 101 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: gone on Mike. He's been a head coach, he's been 102 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: a coordinator, but now he's able to refocus as a 103 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: linebacker coach. You know he's able to do that, and 104 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: that's extremely important. I made that move in my career. 105 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: I went from a head coach and then I went 106 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: back and concentrated on linebackers. You get a different perspective 107 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: of it too, you really do, and you can impart 108 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: that to your players as to where their role encompasses 109 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 1: the entire team. As when you're just a position coach 110 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: and you've never been a head coach or coordinator, sometimes 111 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to get the bigger picture just because you 112 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: haven't done it before. It's a great time in their 113 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: career to go from tyrone to now. Has you talk 114 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: today about Jayon Brown, talk to me about what you've 115 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: seen from Rashaan Evans so far. Rashaun Evans is becoming 116 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: a leader out there on that defense. He is so 117 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: comfortable in his own skin now. But the thing that 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: I like, he's a technique perfectionist, because that was something 119 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: that he needed to work on, especially early when he 120 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: came in here because they rushed him quite a bit. 121 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: You know at Alabama and playing behind the ball in 122 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: the National Football League is so much about training your 123 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: eyes and pre snap reads and being able to get 124 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: an idea of what's going on tackle to tackle before 125 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: the ball is even snapped. He works at it. He 126 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: works at that, and then you can see him start 127 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: to direct traffic out here now. And the thing that 128 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: comes to my mind when I watch linebackers and they're 129 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: able to transition from run to pass very quickly and 130 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: then get to the right spots ahead of the blocks 131 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: that are coming at him, that's when I know they're 132 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: moving at a different level and they've taken their mental 133 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: game to a different level. That's what he's done this year. 134 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: Red who has grabbed you on defense over the course 135 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: of the week. I thought this young man had a 136 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: good week and he ended it today good. And that's 137 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Chris Jackson, the seventh rounder. The corner from Marshall. He 138 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: had had a play where Clif Raymond had a corner 139 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: route he ran and Clif Raymond still made the catch 140 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: and had the first down. But Chris Jackson had excellent 141 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: smothering style coverage against a very small, fast receiver like that. 142 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: I like to see those things. He didn't necessarily make 143 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: the play, but he didn't make it easy for him 144 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: to make the play. Chris Jackson, if he makes this team, 145 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: is gonna make it based on special teams as well? 146 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: One would think so, Kutchmack, I want to ask you, 147 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: with no preseason games, how can you truly tell if 148 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: a guy like Chris Jackson can help you One team, 149 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: Craig Arkerman is doing some very game specific drills, and 150 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: again we can't get into the drills that they're doing, 151 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: but all special teams coaches across the whole circumference of 152 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: the National Football League this year, I've talked to several 153 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: of them. They are having to redirect some of their 154 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: drills because they are getting in game situation drills that 155 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: you normally would get in preseason games. And so that's 156 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: what has to happen, and your evaluation it also has 157 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: to be able to come from how quickly they can 158 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: absorb the techniques. And that's extremely important because people don't 159 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: realize there's a lot of technique that goes into playing 160 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: special teams in the National Football League and how quickly 161 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: those guys can assimilate those techniques mentally and repeat them. 162 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Special teams is about two things. It's about effort and 163 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: it's about repetition. That's what you're looking for. Titans have 164 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: a battle for the backup quarterback job Logan Woodside and 165 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: the newcomer Trevor Simeon. Can we tell much about Trevor 166 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: Simeon yet red through ju practices And I don't think so. 167 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean, certainly you can in terms of how he 168 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: carries himself. You can tell he's had some time under 169 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: his belt, unlike a Logan Woodside has just those things. 170 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: But I need to see him in a larger sample 171 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: before I can say definitively yes, he is. You know 172 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: a over b well you know how I am about 173 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: being an ie and instant evaluator, and we haven't seen him. 174 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: We haven't seen him be able to do to do 175 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: that enough. But the one thing I did notice in 176 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: all of the throwing drills, you know that the seven 177 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: on seven and the team, he's decisive with the ball. 178 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: The ball comes out of his hand and that's important. 179 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: And that's a big thing that you want out of 180 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback if he has to go in the game, 181 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: you need him to be able to pick up and 182 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: go quickly and to be able to jump in. And 183 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: this is a guy who started and backed up in 184 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: the National Football and that's a big, big factor, Mike, 185 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: and it's extremely important. You can't manufacture experience and the 186 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: ability to get the ball out of your hand. It 187 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: may not have It doesn't have to be the most 188 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: dynamic throw, but be decisive with it. I've seen that 189 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: if guys are getting positive grades on week one, Corey 190 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: Davis has to be at the top of the list 191 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: two reet, especially because he just came off pup and 192 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: I think when you had his media availability earlier, you 193 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: could tell they know someone ask him about not having 194 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: the fifth year option picked up on him, and you 195 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 1: could tell that it was a disappointment to him. You 196 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: could tell that is a driver in this final contract 197 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: year for him right now, and he has channeled that 198 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: into fuel and he has done well coming off a 199 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: pup off of a toe surgery. I thought he had 200 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: a great week, very decisive with stab catches and physicality 201 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: that you have seen from him in years previous. This 202 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: will really amp up this offense if he can just 203 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: reach a level of productivity. He doesn't have to lead 204 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: the league in receptions, but a level of productivity that 205 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: we all expected from him early on, and he's got 206 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: the capability of doing this will take this offense. This 207 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: will ramp this offense up, you know, with those three 208 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: receivers that we have, if they are continuing to be 209 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: healthy throughout the year. The layers that Arthur Smith is 210 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: going to be able to present to opposing defenses will 211 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: be fun to watch and using the different pieces in 212 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: ways that they can be effective. Like Anthony Ferkser. Anthony 213 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: Ferkser at the tight end position, several good catches during 214 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: the course of the week, another good touchdown catch today. 215 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Ferkser is a guy that is and the trust 216 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,359 Speaker 1: is a huge word with Anthony Ferkser and the quarterback. 217 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: You know, Tannehill trust him to be where he's supposed 218 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: to be. He trust him to make the right cuts 219 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: off of the right foot at the right time. Because 220 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: timing is so important, especially at that position, Mike, because 221 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: that position is closer to the cylinder and what goes 222 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: on closer to the cylinder. It's all about timing. The 223 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: further you get away from cylinder throwing the football, the 224 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: longer time you have to let it develop. When you're 225 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: close to the cylinder, Timing is essential. Ferkser and Ryan Tannehill, 226 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: they have that timing and trust. Why did John Robinson, 227 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: go out and get tight end, Jeff Swain. It's a 228 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: big inlnecking tight end. And if you're going to be 229 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: an outside zone centric football team, which they are, there 230 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: are going to be certain times when you're going to 231 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: have to line up that edge to secure the edge. 232 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: You hear Mike Vrabel talk on the defensive side all 233 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: the time about setting the edge. You've got to be 234 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: able to have somebody on your offensive side that can 235 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: stretch the edge, because that's what the outside zone is 236 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: all predicated on. The quicker you can stretch the edge, 237 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: the better the cutback seems become. And there's going to 238 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: come a time which we saw in the playoffs as 239 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: to where he said, we're lining up and we're running 240 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: the outside zone. Put as many people as you want 241 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: in the box until you get to eleven, because that's 242 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: all you can have, and we're still going to run 243 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: it for both of you. Rehet first, Could the Titans 244 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: keep four tight ends on the fifty three? I mean 245 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: my initial thought is yes they could. I mean, you 246 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: never know about numbers, how those things end up, but yeah, 247 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: they could. I say absolutely yes. And I also say 248 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: with the six vested veterans, that you can keep on 249 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: your practice squad. This year, that might happen to and 250 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: it changes so much with the COVID nineteen and understanding 251 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: you might have to call up somebody ninety minutes before 252 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: the game. The quality of the player on the practice 253 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: squad in terms of readiness to play in twenty twenty 254 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: is vastly different than the readiness of a player to 255 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: play on most practice squads in most years. Well, I 256 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: mean it goes back to when I first started in 257 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: this league. You had what they called the taxi squad, 258 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: and it was called the taxi squad because you'd hide 259 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: them out in hotels and they take a taxi to 260 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: come to practice when you needed them, and that's where 261 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: the name came from. But when you have vested veterans 262 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: that are sitting and waiting, then your ability to be 263 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: able to insert them quickly because they're going to practice 264 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: with you all week, to insert them quickly, if you're 265 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: not going to be able to have who your starters are, 266 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: even your primary backups you know, active that day. That's 267 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: a big point for this year. You said something interesting, 268 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis on our live look in at training camp, 269 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: and we're going to do another one on Sunday morning, 270 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: and those are sponsored by our friends at Pinnacle Financial. 271 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: But you said something that we were talking about Isaiah Wilson, 272 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: the first round pick at right tackle, and we were 273 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: discussing his readiness to play. You made the point, Hey, 274 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: this is Dennis Kelly's job right now. Why do you 275 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: feel that strongly And what does Isaiah have to get 276 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: better at and where does he have to get to 277 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: in order to really threaten for that job at some 278 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: point in the near future. Well, I mean it is 279 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly's job to begin with, because this offense is 280 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: at another level. I mean if he was coming into 281 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: an offense mic that was really struggling to find their 282 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: identity and figure out who they are, it might be 283 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: different because then you would take a guy that's got, 284 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, really big talent and say, you know what, 285 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: you can just grow right along with this and we 286 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: might not be as good for a while. But this 287 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: offense is one of the top offenses in the league 288 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: right now. Dennis Kelly has been an important part of 289 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: this offense. Isaiah Wilson will move into it at a 290 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: certain point his ability and then his knowledge will take over. 291 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: But until that comes, He's in an ideal situation for himself. 292 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: If I'm coaching this football team and I've got Isaiah 293 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: Wilson sitting there as a guy that can swing in 294 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: there immediately to begin with, I'm in great shape knowing 295 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: that sooner or later he's going to be that guy 296 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: setting that money block on the edge out there. It's 297 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: just going to take time. People need to be patient. 298 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: He needs to be patient, and he needs to be observant. 299 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: That's what he needs to do right now. Let's stay 300 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: with first round picks for a minute and talk about 301 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen first round pick, Jeffrey Simmons. Rhet What 302 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: have you seen out of Big Jeff in training camp 303 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: to this point? A redefined body style, a confidence with 304 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: no brace on the knee, confidence in the knee, and 305 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: just I think a little more assertive demeanor than what 306 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: you saw. You know, he's just finding his way through 307 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: things as late as he came into the picture into 308 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: the regular season, and you can tell that confidence. He 309 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: exudes that confidence right now, and you know the physicality, 310 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: it's all there. It's what you wanted. He's not thinking now. 311 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: He was thinking about two things last year when he 312 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: first of all, he was thinking about his knee number 313 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: one when he came in last year, and then he 314 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: was thinking about what am I supposed to do? He 315 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: was thinking about those two things, and then he was 316 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: even he was productive doing that. Now he's not thinking 317 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: about either one of those things. He knows his knee 318 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: is fine and he knows what to do. We're gonna 319 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: see a real, real fun to watch Jeffrey Simmons this year. 320 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: We know what we have in de Kwon Jones playing 321 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: right beside Jeffrey Simmons. When they go three down line minute, 322 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: it looks like Jack Crawford is the other one. He 323 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: was signed from Atlanta, just came off the reserve. COVID 324 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: nineteen list. Dave McGinnis. Who is Jack Crawford in terms 325 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: of style of play and what they got him to do? 326 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: He's a knock back, space eater, you know, it is 327 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: what he is. He's a knock back, very solid, very 328 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: physical football player. You know, he's not a He's not 329 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna make a lot of plays, you know, 330 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: outside of the cylinder. But what he is gonna do, 331 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: he is gonna he's gonna collapse and he is going 332 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: to constrict the cylinder where you're gonna He's gonna help 333 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: a lot of guys make a lot of other plays. 334 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: And plus he's played ball in this league. That is 335 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: so important. You know that, you know, for our listeners 336 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: to know you've when you've played ball in this league. 337 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: It's just like coaching in this league. Once you've coached 338 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: in this league for a while, you understand the environment 339 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: that you're living in. He understands the environment of the 340 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: National Football League. You like Laurel Murchison, the rookie defensive lineman, 341 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: fifth round pick out of NC State. I like him 342 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: for a completely different reason is this is a rookie. 343 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: But here's what he does have. He's got great versatility. 344 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: This guy's got some bendy to him, and he's also 345 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: got some ability to flatten and get down the line 346 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. When you watched him at North Carolina State, 347 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: they played him a couple of several different places, and 348 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: he was very very he was he was dominant to 349 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: the point that he was always moving to the football. 350 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: This is not a stationary defensive lineman. And I know 351 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: our listeners may say, well, what are you talking about, 352 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: coach Mike Well, when you, you know, people are different. 353 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: Tony Sarah Goosea was a stationary defensive lineman. He ate 354 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: up space. Vince Wolfork was a stationary defensive lineman. They 355 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: were massive, they ate up space, but then you know 356 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: other people had to work around them. This guy here 357 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: is a very he he's a he can play in 358 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: space and that's important. And that's a guy that weighs 359 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: in at two ninety seven. Does he weigh that much? Yeah, 360 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right here. Laurel Murchison six two 361 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: two ninety seven. When you look at him, Mike, if 362 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 1: you really, if you watch him and look at him, 363 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: he's got really really stout, thick lowers and that's where 364 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: movement comes from. M I didn't really, I guess I 365 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: didn't realize he was that big. I thought he was 366 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: about a two hundred and eighty pound players. So that 367 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: it really does make a lot of sense about being 368 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: able to line up in different spots the defense, and 369 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: so much of it has been talked about it. Who's 370 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: calling the defense, who's running the defense, who's making everything happen? Today? 371 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: Working here at Nissan Stadium, are they getting some feel 372 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: for how they want to do it? I know they're 373 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: not going to give away what they're doing, But is 374 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: that part of why they came over here to do this? 375 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: Big part of it, big part of it, big part 376 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: of deciding who's gonna be up, who's gonna be down. 377 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, they've got a couple of 378 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: new members for this staff that we're learning game day 379 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: operations here, just like all the new players were learning that. 380 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: So the answers, yes to that, Mike, Absolutely, Yes. When 381 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: you called defense, would you rather have been up or 382 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: down on the sideline? Well, I call it from both places. 383 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I call it as a head coach from 384 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: the sideline. You know, when I when I did that 385 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: for a while, when I was a coordinator and not 386 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: the head coach. I called it, you know, from the sideline. 387 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: The thing that I did when I was an assistant 388 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: head coach, I was I was hooked up to all 389 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: three all three phases, offense, defense, and special teams. And 390 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: I can see some of the advantages of calling it 391 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: from the box because your vision is so much better. 392 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: If you call it from the field, you've got to 393 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: have somebody you I mean, it works both ways, Mike. 394 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: If you call it from the field. You've got to 395 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: have somebody you really trust as being your eyes upstairs 396 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: if you call it from the box. You've got to 397 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: trust somebody to be your heart down there on the 398 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: field and be able to feel what's going on with 399 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: the players. All right, let's talk about that. When you 400 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: were assistant head coach for Jeff Fisher, how much are 401 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: you talking to both he and the coordinators on both 402 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: sides and special teams about what's going on. How involved 403 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: is the assistant head coach in that conversation? Well, me constantly, 404 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: and and and the thing about communications during a game 405 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: with the headsets. You know, for our listeners, this is 406 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: a little inside dive. You only have one person talking 407 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: all the time, and you work. You go through that. 408 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: This was part of what they were doing today. You 409 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: go through that. You don't you don't ever click in 410 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: until the head coach says, go all right. And then 411 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: if I'm a defensive coach and the offense is on 412 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: the field, then we go to our other channel. We 413 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: can talk all we want until the head coach, who's 414 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: got all three of them, can say, shut it off, 415 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: shut it off. I wanted everybody to listen to what 416 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying here, so it's controlled and it's controlled by 417 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: the head coach. But the longer your staff is together, 418 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: the more you get into a flow of how that works. 419 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: Does Mike Vrayball have an assistant head coach on his staff, well, 420 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: Shane Bowne. It sounds like to me, is what Shane's 421 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: doing right now for the defense? Yes, but he doesn't 422 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: have a Dave McGinnis type of guy over everything. I 423 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: don't see that guy, you know right now, you know 424 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: on the staff, and I mean I know his staff, sure, 425 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how he how he quite? I know this. 426 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: When I was an assistant head coach all those years 427 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: for Jeff Fisher, you know there were a lot of 428 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: times when Jeff was not able to be there or 429 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: do some things. Well, then you know I was the guy, 430 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: all right. I don't know who that guy is, you 431 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: know from Mike Vrabel, John Striker, Rhett when when people 432 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: here stretch, that's what his nickname is. Who is John Striker? 433 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: To Mike Vrabel, he's not the assistant head coach, but 434 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: he fills some of that role, right he does. I 435 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: think he is more of he's Mike Vrabel's ops manager. 436 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: I think that is what you would call him, because 437 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: from anything to music that's played at practice, to scheduling 438 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: interviews to anything he needs football wise, he handled There's 439 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: no telling what the laundry list of things he handles 440 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: for coach Mike Vrabel. But I would say he was 441 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: He's an operations manager. I really like Stretch eyed him. 442 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean that kind of guy. I mean, I would 443 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: have loved to have had Stretch with me. I can 444 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: see why you know Mike, why he's his right hand 445 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: guy doing a lot of things. Mike Queen. Let me 446 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: talk about a story that I don't think it's talking 447 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: about a turn. When you and I going to do 448 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: the production meeting with Mike Vrabel on Fridays during the season, 449 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: and we sit out there and wait until he's ready, 450 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: and Stretches desk is right there, so you remember the time, 451 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: and Stretches always watching tape. I can remember it vividly, 452 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: and I want to I'm bring this up to Stretch 453 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: next time. I'm socially distanced enough where I can talk 454 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: to him. He was sitting there watching tape of Georgia 455 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: and I and I and I got it leaned over 456 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: and I said, Stretch, who you watching. He said, Mac, 457 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: look at this one. He's watching Isaiah Wilson. I remember 458 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: that so clearly. Now Stretches, Stretch wears a lot of 459 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: hats uh. Much respect for Stretch from my point of view, 460 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: because I know as a head coach how valuable that 461 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: person is. Stretch will be a general manager someday. Stretches 462 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: role two on game day. Part of it has to 463 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: do with replay, No, absolutely, and that's huge, and that's 464 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: an important thing for the head coach to have. Rhett 465 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: is that person who is detached enough and has enough 466 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: information to say, hey, coach, challenge it or don't challenge it. 467 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: It's like coach Mack just said, trust implicit and knowing 468 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: that if Stretch tells me in my headset, hey you 469 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: need to look at this, I'm not going to question it. 470 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: You trust him. He is your extra set of eyes. 471 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: Every year I coached from the press box, as soon 472 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: as instant replay came in. I was always the instant 473 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: replay guy in the box. I always have been, always was, 474 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: and it's important. I mean Jeff Fisher trusted me implicitly. 475 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean I can all the times that we were 476 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: doing it. And the first thing he would say is back. 477 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: That's all he'd have to say, not either say I'd 478 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: either say yes or no. Yes means challenge it, no, 479 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: let it go. And that's hard because everybody's emotional in 480 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: those moments that person Dave McGinnis for Jeff Fisher or 481 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: John Stryker, Stretch for Mike Vrabel. You can't be emotional. No, no, 482 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: you cannot be. And you've got to be removed from it. 483 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: And that's where experience comes in. You know, Stretch might 484 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: be a young dude, but he's experienced. He's very experienced. 485 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: And and plus the other thing is is you've I 486 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: just I did it for so long. You just you've 487 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: got to be decisive and you've got to be comfortable 488 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: enough in your own skin because sometimes you're going to 489 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: be wrong, and if you're wrong, you can't completely melt. 490 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: You have said consistently you're very impressed with this staff. 491 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: What what impresses you so about the Titan staff? Nobody 492 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: steps on anybody else And and and the ego of 493 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: this staff is zero is zero. They're they're really good teachers, 494 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: and you can tell that they work very very well. 495 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: To me, the big thing is when you watch offensive 496 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: line of defensive line work together. You know, sometimes you 497 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: know one's trying to one up the other. When you 498 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: just watch this staff, they're they're, they're they're absent any 499 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: type of ego, but they're all excellent, excellent teachers. And 500 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: a lot of that, too, might stems from the head coach, 501 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: because there's one guy in charge of all of this, 502 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: and it's the head coach. And as long as and 503 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: everybody understands that, they also understand how he wants his 504 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: football team coached. He's gonna let them be their individual 505 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: selves in doing it, but he wants them all to 506 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: coach this football team with certain goals and certain avenues 507 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: in mind. When a staff is on the same level 508 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: like that, you can recognize it at practice, you can 509 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: recognize sometimes when staffs are disjointed. This is a very 510 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: well put together staff. Rep. Brian, what difference is, if 511 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: any do you see in Mike Vrabel in year three? 512 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: I think if it's anything, And he's been very deliberate 513 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: from the first day he walked into the building knowing 514 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: what he wants. But now that he's been around the 515 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: block a couple of times, he's coached in what thirty 516 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: five games, including playoffs as head coach. I'm sure he 517 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: has studied and looked back at his own notes he 518 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: kept and things he might have wanted to do differently. 519 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: But he knows time is of the essence, especially in 520 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: a year with a pandemic and no preseason games are 521 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: shortened off season of virtual offseason, and he knows exactly 522 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: from one item one to one hundred exactly what he 523 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: wants to do. And it goes back to what Coach 524 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: Max said about having staff that you trust to handle 525 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: and delineate these things and delegate to these people. But 526 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: he knows what he wants to do. He also knows 527 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: the people in the building. Now, he knows who he 528 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: can trust in the building, and that's big. I mean 529 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: it's huge. I mean I became a head coach after 530 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: fifteen years in the league and there's still a lot 531 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: of things you know that you have to learn. I mean, 532 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: it's just different. It's different when you've got that big 533 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: corner office. But he understands his building, which is extremely important. 534 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: He knows who he can lean on in the building 535 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: for a lot of different things. And I'm removing it 536 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: from the football staff, I'm talking about everybody else. I mean, 537 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: he knows he can trust you, Mike Keith, And for 538 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: a head coach, that's big. That's huge. I mean, I'm 539 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: just telling him from my aspect of it, from going 540 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: through how I went through it. People that you can 541 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: trust the support staff. That's big. That's huge, because you 542 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: can't at all. So the Titans have the testing period 543 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: in late July, they have the acclamation period in early August. 544 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: They have a period of what amounts to OTA type practices. 545 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: Then on the seventeenth this past Monday, they start full 546 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: pads practice. A week of that is done, They're off tomorrow. 547 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: They'll restart on Sunday. No preseason games to look forward to. 548 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: Practices can be longer now and obviously they can have 549 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: I guess ten eleven more and pads. So my question is, 550 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: how do you keep it interesting if you're Mike Vrabel 551 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: knowing there's no game to look forward to still for 552 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: three more weeks. Well, the first thing that keeps them 553 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: interested they know they have a good football team. This 554 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: football team is eager to get back. This football team 555 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: was very disappointed that they didn't get a chance at 556 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I mean you feel that, you feel 557 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: that in the building, the building was disappointed. At the 558 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: same time, they're realistic enough to know, and it comes 559 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: from Mike Vrabel and John Robinson's leadership. We've got work 560 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: to do to even get back to that point. He 561 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: will not have any problem keeping them interested in this 562 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: because they know. They know last year, Mike, when you've 563 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: got a football team that the vast majority of them 564 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: experienced going from two and four to the AFC Championship game, 565 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: they understand that what Mike Vrabel is going to ask 566 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: them to do gives them a chance to get there 567 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: and be successful. They won't be disinterested. I think they're 568 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: very excited about what's going on. The other thing is 569 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: they work every day to get better, and that's important. 570 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: I don't see anybody going through the motions out here 571 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: just saying, well, the first two preseason games, I'm a vet, 572 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to play, so these last two or 573 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: three practices, you know, I'm gonna practice like that. That's 574 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: not what happens out here. And it goes back to 575 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: my answer to your last question about what do I 576 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: see different in him? How many practices have you seen 577 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: now where anybody's standing around with their hands on their hips. 578 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's something constantly. It's a three ring circus, 579 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: and you better pay attention and you better be ready 580 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: to go into your next drill. No time to waste, 581 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: and so that'll keep you interested if you want to 582 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: keep a job, or you get the Mike Vrabel experience. Yeah, 583 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't want that. I know. I pointed that out 584 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: to you a little bit today. Up here, I said, Mike, 585 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: look down there. I mean, it's here's what Mike Vrabel 586 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: misses during practice. Nothing. Nothing. Yeah, a couple of veterans 587 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: got the Mike Vrabel experience that it wasn't It wasn't rookies, 588 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't anything bad. No, it was it was like, hey, 589 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: how about this, But that keeps you on your toes. 590 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: Whether you're a young player or you're a vested vet, 591 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: or you're a star or whatever is the Mike Vrabel 592 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: experience can be dealt to any one. Well, everybody's even 593 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: that's good stuff. Titan's in good place right now, Yes 594 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: they are. They're a good place. They really are in 595 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: a good place. And they're they're in a good place organizationally. 596 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we all recognize that. But they're 597 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: also in a good place just functionally right now, rhet 598 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: what's coming up on Titans Radio time to start the 599 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: year right? It is the Mike Vrabel Show, first edition 600 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: is this coming Monday at six Central, seven Eastern on 601 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: all of our fine Titans radio stations, fifty three or 602 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: four of them in three states. So we all look 603 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: forward to our partners in radio airing that show on 604 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: Monday night. And Coach Mack and I have his show 605 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: that's cranked back up called Mac Talk on the flagship 606 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: one oh four five to Zone and we've been doing 607 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: to that virtually and the airs on Wednesday nights at 608 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: sixth Central. We invite anybody to come along to do that, 609 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: and we'll be working towards games three weeks. You know. 610 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: That's about it. We'll be talking about Denver. I'm gonna 611 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: go back to the Vrabel Show for just a second. 612 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: Vrabel is going to be on Monday night. If somebody 613 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: wanted to go ahead and submit a question for Mike Vrabel, 614 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: how would they do it? Do it to the Titans 615 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: Radio Twitter account at Titans Radio. That's at Titans Radio 616 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: and we will get that question into your hands to 617 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: ask the head coach. He loves the questions. He loves them. 618 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: He I mean, he actually does. He gets angry when 619 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: we don't have enough questions for him. Yes, that's kind 620 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: of the Mic Fable experience. That's when I get the 621 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: Mike Frayley experience. He does not want he doesn't want 622 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: to hear my questions. He wants to hear your questions. 623 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,239 Speaker 1: Titans fans Coach mack Day off tomorrow, back on the 624 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: field on Sunday. What's the focus of the next week 625 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: football wise for this team, knowing that they're three weeks 626 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: away from the first game. Well, they're going to start 627 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: adding things both offensively and defensively, and plus the concentration 628 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: on special teams being able to identify those guys for 629 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: Craig Ackerman, they're going to be able to help him 630 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: on game day. That is going to be a huge 631 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: part from here until we get ready to play a game, 632 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: So layering the offense and the defense, taking that next 633 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: progressive step, and then finding special teams contributors. Ashley Farrell, 634 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: thanks for doing this for us here at Nissan Stadium. 635 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: She always takes good care of us. And Amy Wells 636 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: will be back on the next OTP. Unless you know 637 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: she's moved to California because of the NFL networks, she 638 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: could be living in Carson City. It could happen. Yeah, 639 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: she's doing a great job. We tease her as you 640 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: would expect we would, but we are very proud of 641 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: what she's doing for NFL Network because they can't get 642 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: people in and out as they want could and so 643 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: she's been given a great opportunity and I think it's 644 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: great for Titans fans to get that insight from somebody 645 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: who is unmatched and how she knows this football team. 646 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: So it's very exciting all the way around. Reet Brian, 647 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: thanks for sitting in glad to do it. Dave McGinnis 648 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: as always my pleasure, and for Ashley Farrell, Rhett Bryan 649 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: and coach Dave McGinnis. Mike Keith. Thanks our friends at 650 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau of Health Plans for sponsoring this edition of 651 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: the Ode t PE.