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Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you should Know from house Stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Jerry's right

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Speaker 1: there to my immediate right, and that makes this stuff

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Speaker 1: you should know the podcast the podcast. That's right. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about this particular podcast Chuff put together this episode.

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Speaker 1: I should say, well, do you want to go ahead

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Speaker 1: and announced the title for the people that maybe didn't

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Speaker 1: need it, it is, uh, well, you you're going to

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Speaker 1: selected title. It's the title. Oh geez, I don't know. Um,

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Speaker 1: everything you ever wanted to know about actually, some stuff

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Speaker 1: about action figures that you may already know, and some

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Speaker 1: stuff that made the light you Well, that's a working title.

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Speaker 1: Huh yeah. Yeah, but we're talking about action figures. That's

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Speaker 1: the point of what I think that X size just was. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say everything you wanted to know, but this,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we could do there. I'm sure there are

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Speaker 1: entire podcasts on action figures for sure. Yeah. And if

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Speaker 1: you do, if you have a podcast on action figures

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Speaker 1: right in, let us know. We'll we'll tweet it out.

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Speaker 1: For the people whose boat this floated and this this

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Speaker 1: one definitely follows in the vein of UM the Barbie episode,

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Speaker 1: which I have to say is one of my perennial favorites.

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Speaker 1: I love the Barbie episode. Yeah yeah, and Barbie actually

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Speaker 1: makes an appearance in this one. You'd like to play

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Speaker 1: with dolls? Uh? I like to play with action figures.

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Speaker 1: I play with Barbies. I had older sisters, so like

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Speaker 1: I was, I played with Barbie's whether I wanted to

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Speaker 1: I don't remember my sister having Barbies. But surely she did, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she was a girl in America from the sixties on. Yes,

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Speaker 1: she had a Barbie. Oh no, my sister grew up

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Speaker 1: in the Soviet Union. Oh well, there you go. She

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Speaker 1: had um a Martina. There probably wasn't Martina. But I

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Speaker 1: mean that was a pretty good episode. And this one's

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Speaker 1: kind of similar. It's it's got it all And like

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Speaker 1: I said, Barbie kind of pops up in the beginning.

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Speaker 1: She actually inspired action figures, UM, like basically directly when

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Speaker 1: when Mattel I think it was Ruth Handler who invented

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Speaker 1: the Barbie doll, right, and when she when she and

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Speaker 1: Mattel released it, it was just a huge, enormous hit.

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Speaker 1: And one of the big reasons Barbie was number one

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Speaker 1: companies was that when you bought a Barbie, your buying

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Speaker 1: experience wasn't over. There were always like more clothes and shoes,

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Speaker 1: and like my sister had the pool that you could

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Speaker 1: And so when you bought a Barbie, you wanted all

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Speaker 1: the other stuff too, And toy companies wanted to figure

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Speaker 1: out how to do that with boys toys, but they

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Speaker 1: just couldn't quite figure it out because one had ever

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Speaker 1: come up with a doll for boys. And that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what it required, is coming up with a doll

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Speaker 1: Barbie made the whole thing all the more appealing. I guess. Yeah, finally,

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Speaker 1: this dude name Stan Weston who actually knew Miss Handler

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Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't call it a racket. It's a

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Speaker 1: So he said like you were talking about, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he says, what if we could come up with

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Speaker 1: and maybe not call them dolls. Actually he didn't, he

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Speaker 1: certainly not one like G I Joe. Right, Well, that's

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about action figures. Well, so, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because G I Joe was the one that started, literally

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Speaker 1: every action figure, including G I Joe, ultimately came from Barbie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a good way to look at it. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: all right, here's the deal that I never knew G I.

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Speaker 1: they had planned that UH the original. I knew all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. The original was twelve inches and had twenty

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Speaker 1: all four of these Armed Forces dolls. You didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: I thought the guy was Joe. No, that the for

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Speaker 1: my era, the guy, the main guy was Duke, And

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Speaker 1: depends on which one you had, Okay, So that was

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Speaker 1: there was Rocky was the Army and the Marines Skip

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Speaker 1: Force guy, the fighter pilot. Right, So they ran out

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Speaker 1: of names after name three, circle back to Rocky. They

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Speaker 1: for their clothing. Yea, as far as I know, right, didn't.

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Speaker 1: just their clothes were different. You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: were all the same, dude, and they were all Franco Harris. Well, well, no,

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Speaker 1: well they came up with an African American one at

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Speaker 1: one point in like sixties, I think, yeah, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: big differences with G I. Joe, because there were toy

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Speaker 1: soldiers before. But did you ever have those like little

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Speaker 1: out of the bucket and one had a bazooka and

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Speaker 1: he was always the best one. And but that they

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Speaker 1: were on like little molded plastic stands and you couldn't

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Speaker 1: do anything with him except slide them around or whatever

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Speaker 1: does have been around forever? Well, you could do a

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Speaker 1: lighter and a can of hairs. Right, Actually, I was delighted.

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Speaker 1: It was toy story right where they had those those

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Speaker 1: cool to me when I saw that on screen. Uh,

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Speaker 1: thank you. DreamWorks. Oh that's where they got the name?

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Speaker 1: Was the dream Works or was that Pixar? Is Pixar right?

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Speaker 1: still going to get emails anyway, even though we just corrected.

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Speaker 1: They're they're all working dreams. So, um, I read this

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Speaker 1: now you know the history of g I Joe and

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Speaker 1: knowing it as half the battle from Smithsonian dot com

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Speaker 1: written by Jimmy Stamp. Was that his name the Stamper

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Speaker 1: the stamps there, So, um, I didn't realize this. But

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Speaker 1: human figure. So that was sort of an issue when

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Speaker 1: people started to do knockoffs of g I Joe. But

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Speaker 1: apparently early on in the process, G I Joe was

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Speaker 1: well known for that scar on his face, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't even know this. He had an inverted thumbnail. And

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Speaker 1: for copyright infringement. That's right, that's crazy, Yeah, it is,

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Speaker 1: over it also elsewhere, chuck that um G I. Joe

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Speaker 1: there were so many knockoffs that has Bro released its

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Speaker 1: think like or twenty nine moving parts. Um are different parts.

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Speaker 1: When you knew G I Joe, Uh, yeah, very much.

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Speaker 1: It was so kung fu right, but he still looked

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Speaker 1: like Frank o' harris. But he still looked like Banks. Yes.

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Speaker 1: And then the other big innovation was the was not

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Speaker 1: but for boys it was it was that this this doll,

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Speaker 1: But there were pictures of the other dudes and the

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Speaker 1: other outfits you could get, so when you bought one

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Speaker 1: g I Joe. You, as a kid, were made immediately aware, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: there's other g I Joes out there, and I want

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Speaker 1: some little kid named middle age marketing executive Don Levine.

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Speaker 1: So not only that, but they had, you know, like Barbie,

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Speaker 1: let's jump back a little bit to ninety six, and um,

425
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna explain how they went from eight inches even

426
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: though they were still making the eight inchers after sixty six,

427
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: how they eventually got down to the three and three

428
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: quarters inch. Uh. G I Joe was licensing their stuff

429
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: out to other countries all over the place. There was

430
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: a UK company who released it under the name Action

431
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: man Uh and eventually they licensed it to Japan to

432
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: a company called Takara. They went on to create some

433
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: action figures based on Gi Joe, and then, due to

434
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: the oil crisis in the early seventies, they started developing

435
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: smaller versions. Uh so at three and three quarters inches

436
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: they developed. Microman released him in the nineteen seventy four,

437
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: and that kind of led to this new thing, which

438
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: was smaller dudes three and kids didn't care. No, no,

439
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: not only did we not care. So now we're starting

440
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: to enter my wheelhouse. Not only did we not care,

441
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: These smaller ones are vastly superior to the older ones.

442
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: Oh you think, yeah, so a lot of stuff. But

443
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: I would say this is the one thing that divides

444
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: this more frequently than anything else, is whether the original

445
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: big g I Joes or the second wave small g

446
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: I Joes are better. All right, let me ask you, sir,

447
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: have you ever held in your hands and played with

448
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: a twelve inch g I Joe with a kung fu grip?

449
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: I would uh would not touch one, So you can't

450
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: even say then? Have you played with the small one? Yeah? Man,

451
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: I had tons of small action figures? Okay, all right?

452
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: Oh did you have the Star Wars stuff? So you

453
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: think the big ones superior? Yeah, it's twelve inches, it's

454
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: articulates nineteen different ways. I like the small ones. I

455
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: always will, even after playing with the big one, which

456
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: I have not never will. I just know that the

457
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: small one is vastly superior. I don't know if it's

458
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: because I am nostalgic for the small ones and the

459
00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: old ones seem weird and dusty and moldy or something

460
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: like that, but the small one seemed better than me.

461
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: All Right, At the very least, you have to you

462
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: have to admit the wave of G. I. Joe's that

463
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: were released when I started playing with them, just the

464
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: line itself was better, regardless of the size of them. Right, Well,

465
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and talk about that thought, because G I.

466
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: Joe changed a lot um once it became a cartoon

467
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about some really cool political

468
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: stuff that had no idea went into this. But um,

469
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: G I. Joe became a cartoon series. This was in

470
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: the early eighties, So this is when I had kind

471
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: of quit playing with action figures for the most part. Okay,

472
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: because eighty four, I was like thirteen, and you know,

473
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: I was moving on to you know, check out this mustache.

474
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was skateboarding by that point, and

475
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was like super cool skateboarder. Uh, maybe

476
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: I still played a little bit. So your only your

477
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: neighborhood best friend knew about it. Your school friends didn't

478
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: exactly so did Yeah, Joe was a cartoon. H Then

479
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: they for the first time basically it became a commando team,

480
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: an anti terrorist commando team that had all kinds of characters,

481
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: and they had finally had a common enemy, which was

482
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: of course Cobra. Yes, led by Cobra Commander. And this

483
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: was your right in your wheelhouse, correct, Yes, So in

484
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 1: nine three I was like seven, So yeah, this was

485
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: I was really just primed and ready. I would just

486
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: let's go Joe. And plus also the other thing too

487
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: that I had that you didn't have was the cartoon

488
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: that not only like blew up the back stories because

489
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: each this new wave of g I. Joe when they

490
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: released it, um, they each character now had its own

491
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: name and it wasn't Rocky or Rocky. It was things

492
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: like um Duke or Shipwreck or Blowtorch or Barbecq or

493
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: dust Um. And then the bad guys had their own

494
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: their own names to like Cobra command or spent or

495
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: to Max or z mott Um or uh, the whole

496
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: the whole gang right Toe Cheese who was that? Tomax

497
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: and Zat They were evil Twins who were they were?

498
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: Basically they were like, um, if if Cobra Commander had

499
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: hired Patrick Bateman and then cloned him a mirror version

500
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: of him, it would be Tomax and z a mot

501
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: interesting stuff, right right? Okay, so I do because I

502
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: grew up with it. But but I also had it

503
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: pounded into my head every day after school watching the G. I.

504
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: Joe cartoon. And that was the huge innovation that really

505
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: just created this uh, this other world for kids like

506
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: me to just lose yourself in with the action figures

507
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: because now you didn't even need to use your imagination.

508
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: You could just be like, oh, I saw this on

509
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: the G. I. Joe cartoon today, So let's act that

510
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: out right. And none of this would have ever happened

511
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 1: had it not been for Ronald Reagan. And that sounds weird, uh,

512
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: but here's the story. So in the late seventies, there

513
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: was a lot of concern about kids, uh and advertising

514
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: about advertising two children. So the FTC, the Federal Trade Commission,

515
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: got a task force together and they said, should we

516
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: ban or regulate this marketing to children? They put together

517
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: six thousand pages of testimony from sixty oh the oral testimony,

518
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: sixty thousand pages of expert testimony from all these experts

519
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: on child psychology and health and nutrition, because I had

520
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: to do with you know, food and sugary candies and

521
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: stuff like that too. And the conclusion across the board

522
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: was that young children cannot they are cognitively unable to

523
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: understand the the intent of selling ads. They can't distinguish

524
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: that from reality. Like if you dress up a cartoon

525
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: as an ad, the kid is he just thinks it's

526
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: a cartoon, she does exactly. Or if the ad is

527
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: a cartoon rather than the kid doesn't know. They just

528
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: think I'm still watching cartoons on my TV. My brain

529
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: hasn't made that switch. But man, could I go for

530
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: some smurf cereal exactly. So it was a big deal

531
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: at the time. So there were all these recommendations basically

532
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: and how to regulate and restrict advertising that were They

533
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: basically said it was unfair and deceptive to kids. UH.

534
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: For older kids, they said they can tell the difference,

535
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: but maybe we should have uh warnings on the ads

536
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: and disclosures saying that this is a commercial message. And

537
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: so what happens when you do this In America, the

538
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: private sector said no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

539
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: I want to be able to sell as much sugary

540
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: garbage to kids as I want. You can't restrict uh,

541
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: free trade, free trade in business. And so we're gonna

542
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: raise a record at the time sixteen million dollars to

543
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: lobby against this. And well and they were helped out

544
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: in no small part by getting the right guy into

545
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: the White House. Right. So, one of the first things

546
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan did was he appointed a new chairman of

547
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: the Federal Trade Commission. And this, uh, this was a

548
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: move that basically said, you know what, there's gonna be

549
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: no regulation whatsoever. You got to leave these markets free.

550
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. Uh. And that is

551
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: basically how all of these cartoons were born. G I. Joe, Transformers, Smurfs,

552
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: care Bears, Rainbow Bright, Yeah, you name it. It basically

553
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: became marketing and selling things and cartoons became one and

554
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: the same. Finally. Yeah, and one of the other things

555
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: that definitely helped G. I. Joe two was the um

556
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was formal or informal, but

557
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: there was basically a band on UM on warlike cartoons

558
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: and warlike toys that was brought back Act under the

559
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: same ease of restrictions by the ftc UM so that

560
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: I think the percentage of warlike toys that was sold

561
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: in the early eighties went up like three hundred fifty

562
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: from one year over the other from like eighty four

563
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: I think. Um, whereas before it was like no, we

564
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: don't Joe was an adventure. Remember, It's like, no, g

565
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: I Joe was gonna cut Cobra's head right off. So

566
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: that's a nineteen eighty That's one of the first, uh,

567
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: one of the first big things Reagan did when he

568
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: got in office flashboard in November. One of the last

569
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: things he did was he vetoed a new measure because

570
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: basically they saw what was happening. All of a sudden,

571
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: kids were being bombarded with war cartoons and uh, just

572
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: terrible sugary packaged food all over the place. Like the

573
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: restrictions were nowhere to be found. So UH, Congress came

574
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: back and said, you know what, this is out of hand.

575
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: Here's a measure that will restrict once again and impost

576
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: some some legislation on this programming aimed at children. Uh.

577
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: It passed the House by eight passed unanimously in the

578
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: Senate and Reagan vetoed it and said, uh, basically, what

579
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: one of the things that were trying to do. They

580
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: were trying to limit programming to UH advertising to ten

581
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: point five minutes an hour on the weekends and twelve

582
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: minutes an hour in the week days and also provide,

583
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: uh require broadcasters to provide educational and informational programs as

584
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: a condition of renewing their licenses. So Reagan vetoed that

585
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: and said, no way, UH, we're not gonna do that.

586
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it as ish people that were in

587
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: favor of this went crazy. Basically they were saying, like,

588
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: how can you guys say you're the the party of

589
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: the Children and education and then veto is something that

590
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: is clearly going to help protect our children. That was

591
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: messed up. Man, I had no idea about that one. Yeah,

592
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 1: and not only that, the what how up? And was

593
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: along with this de regulation UM the toy companies and

594
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: the cartoons. They actually they kind of got in bed

595
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: together and they said, you know what, if you show, uh,

596
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: if you schedule as a broadcaster UM our cartoons that

597
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: sell toys will give you a profit on those toys.

598
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: If you run these g I. Joe cartoons, then we'll

599
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: give you a little cut of what we're selling. Plus

600
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: also we'll buy ads on those cartoons are on your

601
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: network to to sell those those toys when you show

602
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: these cartoons. I imagine you know, because I remember watching

603
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: G I Joe Real American Hero that cartoon, which I

604
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: have to say it was created in in large part

605
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: to sell G I. Joe's true, but it had it

606
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: had great story arcs that had overarching story arcs that

607
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: went from episode to episode. Uh, the individual ones were good,

608
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: like the voice acting was good, the animation was pretty good.

609
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: Same with its formers too, Like, it was pretty pretty

610
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: good cartoon. So at least they were putting time and

611
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: effort and thought into this. But uh, yeah, it's pretty

612
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: despicable marketing to kids in general. Actually, I read a blog.

613
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: Um I'm certainly glad you were a satisfied viewer, but

614
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: I read this blog that basically said that, um man,

615
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: I wish I could find it. Maybe I'll post this

616
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: when we release it, that that the de regulation killed

617
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: the creativity and killed in children's cartoons, and that they

618
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: said that before you know it, they were just like

619
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: things were knockoffs of one another they didn't care about

620
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, you were kids, so maybe you

621
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: didn't realize it, but that was too stupid to know

622
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: it was going on. They said that, you know, you

623
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: can see a clear demarcation line between really good storytelling

624
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: and then storytelling that was clearly just geared to sell things.

625
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: I guess I don't. I'm trying to compare like what

626
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: cartoons were in the seventies, and like they were great,

627
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: they weren't high art though again I'll go back to

628
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: that hair Bear bunch. Well, they loved the hair Bears,

629
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: but there yeah, yeah, that was a big one. But there,

630
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: I mean, their plots were pretty simple. It was the

631
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: same plot that you would see on a Yogi Bear

632
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: cartoon or like a Huckleberry Hound cartoon. Um, Scooby Doo

633
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: was interesting and it was pretty cool, but it was

634
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: basically the same storyline every single time, like what what

635
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo? And I'm not trying to argue in favor

636
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: of Corporate America marketing to kids and ruining creativity, but like,

637
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: you don't, there weren't any overarching storylines aside from Scooby

638
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: being crazy for Scooby Snacks and Scooby Doo, And there

639
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: definitely was in G I. Joe, Like when they went

640
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: around the world and took the DNA of all of

641
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: these great these great dictators and conquerors like Alexander the

642
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: Great and Um Napoleon and put them all together and

643
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: created serpent or Um who was actually the new guy

644
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: who was in charge of Cobra because Cobra commander was

645
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: a bit of a coward? Did you not know any

646
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: of this? How do you not know of this stuff?

647
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: But I was. I was trying to kiss girls in

648
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: the roller skating rink at this and you thought girls

649
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: were gross. Still, it's true, it's true, but I it

650
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: definitely helps shape me, and I am nostalgic for it

651
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: in that sense, and I am appreciative. But Chuck, I

652
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: propose that sooner than later we do an episode on

653
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: marketing to kids, because this whole deregulation story is just fascinating. Yeah,

654
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I hadn't. I didn't really know anything about

655
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: it because I was still a dumb kid when this

656
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: is going on. Well let's do it though, Okay, agreed?

657
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: So that was G I Joe shaped my childhood the

658
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: ted so uh. But prior to g I Joe. The

659
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: first three and three quarter inch action figure in the

660
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: US as far as I know, was the Star Wars line,

661
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: and the Star Wars line again when Migo passed it up,

662
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: they quickly realized that we really screwed up. They released

663
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: like a Buck Rogers line, um, and uh, a black

664
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: Hole line. Remember that movie The black Hole from Disney.

665
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: It's really creepy even still. Um. But so they tried

666
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: to catch up, and they ended up going bankrupt in

667
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three basically as a result of losing this

668
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: Star Wars line, and so Kenner and so Kenner picked

669
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: it up, picked up the Star Wars line instead, and

670
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: they released them and right out of the gate in

671
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, which I believe was the first year

672
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: that they released these things, is three and three quarter

673
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: inch Star Wars line of action figures. UM. In n

674
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: seventy nine, they made a hundred million dollars each year

675
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: from selling those. They sold about forty million units a year,

676
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: and from ninety eight to ninety five, which I think

677
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: was the whole run of the Star Wars lines, the

678
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: original run with Kenner, Kenner sold three hundred million units.

679
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: So if they're stelling forty million a year and making

680
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: a hundred million each year From that, they sold three

681
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: hundred million total, So Kenner made some serious bank office

682
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: star Wars off of me and my my lawnmowing fund.

683
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: For sure, I had. I feel like I had at

684
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: least doubles of most of the major characters, many of

685
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: the minor characters, the Tie Fighter, the X Wing, the

686
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: Death Star, Oh you luck, the land Speeder. Um. I

687
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: also had the uh, the big dolls. Um. I don't

688
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: know if they were twelve inch, but what is it

689
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: with you? And maybe man they're huggable. Uh. Yeah, I

690
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: had the Big Luke and the Big I think, the

691
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: Big Luke and the Big Vader, and maybe like one

692
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: other maybe Chewbacca, but not all of them. And basically

693
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: whatever I could either get from my birthday or Christmas

694
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: or save my allowance to buy, I would get. And

695
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: I was all in. I didn't know that these were

696
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: collect doable. Of course, ripped right into them to play,

697
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: to play with them like normal children do. Um. I

698
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: didn't put it like in a box on a shelf

699
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: to try and keep it in mint condition. But it's

700
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: weird to do though as a kid. Yeah, I don't know.

701
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean maybe there were kids doing it. I didn't

702
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: know any We all played with them, but I mean

703
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: that was originally the point. I think it wasn't until

704
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: like much later that it it became evident that you

705
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: could sell them to people who wish they had them

706
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: in the package still for a lot of money. Yeah,

707
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: and should we should we close later on with the

708
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: some of the more valuable ones, Yes, for sure. So

709
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: that's a tease everybody, you take a break. We should

710
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: Was that it about Star Wars? You think I don't

711
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: have anything else? Really? I mean there's a gazillion other

712
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: things we could talk about, I guess, but what more

713
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: do you need to know besides that they were huge hits.

714
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: That's it, all right, We're gonna take a break. We're

715
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna come back and talk a little bit about the

716
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: how these things are actually made as my sk alright,

717
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: so just to put a little bow on the action

718
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: figure thing before we get into how they're made. Um,

719
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, Transformers came along, was huge throughout the nineties.

720
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: Then you saw uh, Marvel and d C really come

721
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: on the market. Every movie you could think of had

722
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: action figures. TV shows started having action figures. Older popular

723
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: movies started having action figures, like for Nostalgias sake, like

724
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: I literally had a scarface doll. Oh yeah, I've seen

725
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: a scarface al Pacino that I used to have in

726
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: the office and come with a mount of cocaine, a

727
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: plastic mount of cocaine. It did. Uh. And now you

728
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: know you can find pretty much any kind of action

729
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: figure you want from politicians, older movies and TV shows

730
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: and like things you wouldn't even imagine people would, like

731
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: Welcome Back Carter action figures. Yeah, and I didn't realize this,

732
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: but apparently companies intentionally will release like a very limited

733
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: run of some where like they're missing their thumb or

734
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: like it's mislabeled on the package to make these things, um,

735
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: to make them valuable for the aftermarket, the collector's market,

736
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: which seems really untoward to me, like gaming the the

737
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: collector's market by manufacturers. That's just it seems that's just

738
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: the opposite of what you're supposed to do. So that

739
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: is that verified? That sounds urban legendy to me. Well,

740
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: it was in one of the articles you sent, and

741
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: I took it. The person who wrote the article sounded

742
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: like they knew what they were talking about. But was

743
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: that the same article from the guy who said that

744
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: that Kennard couldn't sign the context because the right people

745
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: weren't there. I don't know, because the first thing I

746
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: think of this, If they're doing that, then what's to

747
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: keep them from artificially manufacturing something that's going to be

748
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: valuable and just keeping a bunch of them. Well, most

749
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: companies like money now rather than a little more money later,

750
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: so that would probably do it. That's you know, So

751
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: you want to talk about how these suckers are made? Yeah, again,

752
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: you found some good stuff here when you put this together. Yeah,

753
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: I thought this is pretty interesting. So it starts with design,

754
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: right right, which I mean it's pretty sensible. You say,

755
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: give us a Thor character, you sucker, and um, they're

756
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: talking to an artist, a sculptor when they say that.

757
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: So the sculpture gets to work like creating um, like

758
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: basically a skeleton it's called armature out of wire and

759
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: the wires and basically a position. Thor likes to run

760
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: holding his hammer, so he'll be kind of like in

761
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: a crouch running pose. Um, And then they slap some

762
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: clay around it, maybe bake it a little bit to

763
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: make it stiff, and then they mold very very roughly

764
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: the general body shape and head shape of thor um

765
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: and then they kind of start to get to work

766
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: from there. Yeah, rough thorness is what they look for

767
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: early on. UM. And this you know, it depends on

768
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: the action figure. There are all different kinds that have

769
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: varying levels of uh of movement, and depending on what

770
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up with is really going to inform

771
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: the process. But let's say you're thor and you want

772
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: to move your arms, move those big pipes a little bit. Uh,

773
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: they may choose to sculpt the arms separately, or maybe

774
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: the legs separately. Um. They almost always do the head

775
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: separately because it's got all these this fine detail and

776
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: you just want to work on that by itself. Right

777
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: when you're when you're messing with the heads, you're just

778
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: your wrist is like going into the chest that you

779
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: just finished. Why do I always do this? Not to

780
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: start over? Pretty much, so they're working with this torso

781
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: perhaps only put him aside. Work on the arms, work

782
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: on the hands, work on the head, and eventually, uh,

783
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: once you've got this head and face like you want it. Um,

784
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna attach that back on, build a neck, and

785
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: build some hair. And if it's one that's completely plastic,

786
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna do the clothes and everything in the suit.

787
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have real cloth, though, like in a cape,

788
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're not gonna carve that out obviously, No, No,

789
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: they'll add that. They'll add that later. And sometimes like

790
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: an extra figure will come with like a breastplate or

791
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: boots or Thor's hammer. Maybe they'll they gave Thorer kung

792
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: fod grip, so they'll have to mold that also separately.

793
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: But then sometimes and you'll know this already, probably as

794
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: the designer, they're gonna be like, no, we don't want

795
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: any of that weird cloth. It's like a big g

796
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: I Joe and that's just weird people out. We want it.

797
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 1: We want to plastic and molded. So they'll fill basically

798
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: carve the clothing out of the original sculpture as well. Yeah,

799
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: and this all takes about two weeks on the h

800
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: of course it depends on who you're working with, but

801
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: two or three weeks to carve this this dude out

802
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: to its kind of raws form. Yeah, I'm always incredulous

803
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It's like, you know, who does

804
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: it take two weeks? Is that really an average? Like?

805
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: How many action figure sculptures did you pull to find

806
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: out that it was two weeks? They probably just talked

807
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: to someone at the company and they say how long's

808
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: it take and they say about two weeks. Yeah, that's

809
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: good enough for me. Then all right if they as

810
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: long as they spoke to somebody, all right. So now

811
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: you've got your little little dude, and uh, you're going

812
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: to use a plastic resin when it comes to the

813
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: actual materials of the thing itself. Uh, there's something called

814
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: a B S acra acrono. Wow, I thought, I want it.

815
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: You want me to try it? Sure? I think it's

816
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: a killa nit trial beauty die eyen styrene, A B

817
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: S nice work. Three types of plastic and one that's right,

818
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: So that's the harder plastic for the main body. Uh,

819
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: they may use something like polypropylene or poly ethylene for

820
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: the various parts or pieces. You got your fabrics. If

821
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: you have capes and things like that, so well no,

822
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean even the little small figures had had like

823
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: the jawas had capes. Yeah, not capes, but cloaks. Now,

824
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: I know, I remember that weird to me out too,

825
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: And I think, finally I understand what it is that

826
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't like about the large G I Jos. They

827
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: had fabric clothing and that it was ill fitting clothing

828
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: to like, did you see I don't know if you

829
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: had it or not, but the original G I Joe,

830
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: like some of them, came with a raincoat, but it

831
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: didn't look like a raincoat. It looked like he was

832
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: wearing a sleeping bag that had a draw string around

833
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: his face. Are you sure it wasn't a sleeping bag.

834
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be a raincoat,

835
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: but I think that's what it was. Just pep, you know, Yeah,

836
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: that was all I guess it's not. Actually the size

837
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: is the creepy factor brought on by this clothing that

838
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: didn't fit quite right. Like you know, it's the kind

839
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: of clothing that you would make for a son who

840
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: was was a serial killer, but you didn't want to

841
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: turn him in, so you just keep him locked in

842
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: the basement and you've got to make his own clothing.

843
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: You have to make clothing for him. This is the

844
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: kind of clothing you would make him that's I think

845
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: what creeps me out about it? Well, you're working through

846
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: some stuff, so I'll check in with you at the end,

847
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: but we'll see exactly what it is you hate about

848
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: the call. So, uh, the manufacturing process. You got to

849
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: create the mold. Next you want to master mold, or

850
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: maybe it might be more than one mold, and uh,

851
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: this requires the most time. They say in this article

852
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: about two thirds of the whole time spent making these molds,

853
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: which makes sense, and it takes a few months again

854
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: is that arbitrary? Who knows? Yeah, this guy's like probably

855
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: just takes a couple and then once you once you

856
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: have the molds, and you also have to make a

857
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: decision when you're making the molds. Do you want to

858
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: um make the torso and the legs together? Is he

859
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: gonna move his arms? If so, you probably want to

860
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: do two different molds for the arms. So there's a

861
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: pretty decent amount of decision making work that goes into

862
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: just coming up with what molds you're gonna make. And

863
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: then once you make the molds, and yes you have

864
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: to make the molds, you have to operate them, and

865
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: then you have to decide what kind of um uh

866
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: what kind of UM what's the word I'm looking for

867
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: where you actually make the plastic um figure molding, which

868
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: I should have been able to come up with because

869
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: we were talking about molds at the time, that's right.

870
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: So there's different kinds. I looked up one kind called

871
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: rotational molding. I guess that's what Star Wars was going

872
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: to try at first, but they lost too much detail

873
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: on the figure, so they went to UM I think,

874
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: an injection molding process. But with rotational molding, you've got

875
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: a mold and it's on this computerized arm, and this

876
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: arm just kind of spins around inside an oven, and

877
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: inside the arm is like powdered plastic resin, and I

878
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: guess it just melts it by kind of slowly spinning

879
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: it around. I don't understand what the problem is, but

880
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: I guess injection molding is far superior. Yeah, I guess.

881
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: So I mean to deal with injection molding, Uh, they

882
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: pump it into two pieces and then they apply pressure

883
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: to those two pieces to mold them together while it

884
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: cools and hardens. UM. But I think what you get

885
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: there is, which is why probably they wanted to use

886
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: the rotational molding, is if you have those little Star

887
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: Wars guys, or imagine g I Joe if their injection molds.

888
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: If you if you look at their body from the side,

889
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: it's in two pieces, and sometimes you can see a

890
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: little steam on their head or on their arm or something,

891
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: or probably on their arm because those are separate. But um,

892
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: sometimes you can see the seam or where the two

893
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 1: halves were pressed together. They wanted that smooth look for

894
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: the uh, for the rotational molding that that provides. But um,

895
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: always I guess the detail was the trade off. So

896
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 1: that's the that's the rotational moulling. You don't have seams,

897
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: but you lose fine detail. Within checks and mulling, you

898
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: can get the detail, but you can see the seams

899
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: of where the two sides of the mole came together,

900
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: I guess. But man, I mean, how bad could that

901
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: detail have been? Because when you look at those early

902
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: Star Wars figures, I mean the detail was not great.

903
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: You know, Like, had I've been Mark Hamill had been

904
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: like this, this is what you think my face looks like? Yeah?

905
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: Like they I mean, they've gotten way better. Like the

906
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: stuff they're making today is amazing, but it's almost too good,

907
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, like, yeah, there's some amazing

908
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: stuff out there, but it's that was one of the

909
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 1: great things about these especially the three and three quarter

910
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: inch guys. They just they just they were They were

911
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: meant to be played with. They were meant to have

912
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: imagination bestowed on them and little child's hands. Yeah, not

913
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: supposed to sit on your desk at work or something

914
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: like that, and just as adornment. Like they were meant

915
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: to be played with, and they were. They were subtly

916
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: downgraded from you know, the stuff that's out today, they

917
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: were downgraded to an upgrade. Yes, Like John Hodgman is

918
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: literally screaming right now into his earbuds because we're nostalgic

919
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: about something that was decidedly crappier. Sorry, but it's true

920
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: though from me, like I think that they were they

921
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: were great. Have I told you how I feel about

922
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: the three and three quarter ins g I, Joe, No,

923
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: we should talk about that some more, all right. So

924
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: you've got this mold now pressed together if it's injection,

925
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: and then you have to assemble it. If you have

926
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: the arms separately perhaps or um basically anything else that

927
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: doesn't come on that original mold, you're gonna have to

928
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: assemble it together. Uh, put all the little finishing details.

929
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: Maybe the clothing that you hate so much, Um, maybe

930
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: they're painted with little more detail that that detail that

931
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: you hate so much, and all the things that make

932
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: a better action figure that you hate so much. It's

933
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: not that I hate it, it's it's just I don't know,

934
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure how to put it. Yeah. Yeah,

935
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: so it's I don't hate it, really don't like it.

936
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: The final um, the final key to this whole thing

937
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: is packaging and shipping. So you think big deal was

938
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: a big deal with the package, but a lot of

939
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: thought goes into the packaging, Like you were talking about

940
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: earlier with the the g I Joe actually advertising the

941
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: other dudes on the package, but that classic cardboard backed

942
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: uh clear plastic um casing. Yeah, the shell that was

943
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: sort of became the standard and what everyone came to

944
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: think of as an action figure package. And and man,

945
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: that was another thing that with the wave of g

946
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: I Joes that I played with, that really put a

947
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: lot of time and effort and thought into the packaging. Um,

948
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: and that I mean that was definitely part of it

949
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: that really helps sell the action figures in a lot

950
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Yeah, you know, like right into it.

951
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, I disregarded the package well with the

952
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: later g I jose there was a card on the

953
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: back that had like their code name, their specialty, their backstory,

954
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: and like you clip a mountain and collect those as well,

955
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: Like it was definitely part of it. I collected the

956
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: Star Wars trading cards too. It's funny. I went back

957
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: and got all my old cards not too long ago,

958
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: and I didn't collect a ton of cards. I thought like, oh,

959
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: maybe there'll be some you know, Ken Griffy Rookie card

960
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: in here with five grand. So foolishly I thought I

961
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: had something of value, which I did not. Um. But

962
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: I went through and I had some weird cards that

963
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: I don't even remember collecting. Like I had welcome Back

964
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: Carter cards. Oh yeah, that's twice that welcome Back cart

965
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: has made an appearance in this episode. I was not

966
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: expecting either one. I like, I like to show a lot,

967
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: but I don't remember buying these cards. I had Jaws

968
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: the movie cards. I had lots of Star Wars cards, um,

969
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: some weird like I mean, I had football cards. I

970
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: didn't even collect football cards. I didn't think I went through.

971
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: I did the same thing you did. I got all

972
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: the boxes of baseball cards from my dad's house, and

973
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't where did I get all

974
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: these football cards? Who even collects football cards? You know,

975
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: it's untoward, it's weird. But the cool thing about the

976
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: seventies cards is just the the look when you could

977
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: like you know, you had to back the camera off

978
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: so you could fit the afro into the card and

979
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: all these like great haircuts and hair dues that all

980
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: these guys had back then. It's pretty Why is he

981
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: holding that fistol off and then chuck? After the packaging,

982
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: it goes to the stores and little kids like us

983
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: buy it and love it. That's right. That's the end

984
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: of the manufacturing process. Wow, what a journey. Yeah, that

985
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: was something we went all the way to China and back.

986
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: We did. I don't think we pointed that out a

987
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: lot of time. The molding process is an Asia, so

988
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: that's one reason it takes so long because they put

989
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: them on slow boats. So you kind of tease us earlier. Um,

990
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: the you found a list of the rarest Star Wars figures. Yeah,

991
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: and you know I looked at other lists and they

992
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: listed different figures, So I don't know if that's something

993
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: that changes a lot as far as which ones are

994
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: the most valuable, because I literally saw at least two

995
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: different ones that were described as the Holy Grail Star

996
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: Wars figures, so you know there can't be more than

997
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: one Holy Grail. No, So I do look forward to

998
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,479
Speaker 1: hearing from those in the No. But instead of saying

999
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: these are the most valuable, let's just say we'll talk

1000
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: about some that are pretty rare and fairly valuable. I

1001
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: think that was pretty smart. So no one holds us

1002
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: our feet to the flame. Yack Face. I had not

1003
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: heard of yeck face, had you know? So yeck Face

1004
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: is one of um Boba Fette's either guards or mercenaries.

1005
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: But he worked for Boba Fett. No not, I'm sorry.

1006
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Star Wars people, stop stopping. He worked for

1007
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: Job of the Hut. He's not the same person you

1008
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: just cause three car accidents, three Toyota prius is just

1009
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: liberty Mutual is going to be like this, Josh Clark.

1010
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: We gotta work into our actual aerial tables. Uh. Yeah,

1011
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: So he was part of the power of the Force line. Uh.

1012
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: He was canceled and you'll find. Here's a common thread

1013
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: here is rarity is what makes something valuable, and something

1014
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: can be a garbage figure and they don't make many

1015
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 1: of them, and then it becomes valuable. And I think

1016
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: he wasn't necessarily a garbage figure. He was just released

1017
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: at a time when, like Star Wars figures, sales in

1018
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: general were waning. So they sent him over to Europe.

1019
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: And this thing says that he was never released in

1020
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: the States. I saw that he was, but it was

1021
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: in for a very brief time and a very limited run,

1022
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: and then they sent him to Europe. I think in

1023
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: ve where Return of the Jedi had just come out,

1024
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: so they were crazy for anything that had anything to

1025
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: do with Return to Jedi. America was already like, who

1026
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: cares about Return of the Jedi. We're we're into uh

1027
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: Temple of Doom, which I read an article about that recently.

1028
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: Supposedly Temple of Doom was so dark because both George

1029
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: Lucas and Steven Spielberg were going through breakups at the

1030
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: time that they were writing and making it. So we said,

1031
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: what can we do here? Why don't why don't you

1032
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: pull out his heart and eat it? Right? That's what

1033
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: I feel like because that's what it did all right

1034
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: week way, So this is another Jab of the huts guards.

1035
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: Are you sure you didn't get those confused? I specifically

1036
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: went and looked up Yeke face and he he works

1037
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: for a job of the Hut. They even gave Job

1038
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: of the Huts full name, and I just remember the

1039
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: job apart. Oh he had more than that. Yeah, the

1040
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: hut was he was a member of the huts, like

1041
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: the race of Huts or the tribe of Huts. So

1042
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: was Jab of the hut like you know, Chuck the

1043
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: American gotcha. Well, I think I'm on record as being

1044
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: like I'm a big star Wars fan, loved them, saw

1045
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: them many many times, collected the things, but then it ended.

1046
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm not on of the other half that really went

1047
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole, like oh, who are still like

1048
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 1: into it as much as before? Yeah? And even back then,

1049
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: like new things like the Job of the Huts full name?

1050
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Like I didn't know that. I never

1051
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: knew that stuff and never read the books or anything

1052
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: like that. Um oh, I did have some of those

1053
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: comics though, I remember that now. I never had the comics.

1054
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: I was aware of the books and there was a

1055
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: lot of books when there. Yeah, they still write them too,

1056
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: I think, don't they. Sure, Hey, if it's a good thing,

1057
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: sure right, is that good? I think we have slashed

1058
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: the people who are into the books. Alright. So a

1059
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: week Way is another guard. Apparently it's not super rare,

1060
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: but there's a limitedive addition version that is worth more so.

1061
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: The car died mint condition, the power of the forest

1062
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: line in the nineties, um is worth a little bit

1063
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: more money. I says, thirty five dollars, that's what it's worth. No, no, no,

1064
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: that's what the normal one's worth. The one that has

1065
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: a special freeze frame slide, which I don't know what

1066
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: that is got you. That one's worth ten times that

1067
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: amount according to this guy. All Right. I remember the

1068
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: Vinyl cape Jahua was always worth a lot of money,

1069
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: m because they came out with a cloth cape. I

1070
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: know it's creepy. Uh So I'm gonna throw that in there,

1071
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: just off the top of my head. There's also a

1072
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: think of Vinyl caped in a cloth cape. Imperial Guard,

1073
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: remember the the Emperor's red cloaked guards, And I think

1074
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: Return of the Jedi, maybe Empire strikes back. I don't know.

1075
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to say anything out loud. Now, let's just

1076
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: just stop. Uh, let's skip that next one and go

1077
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: straight to Bubba Fett. How does that sound? Okay? Bubba

1078
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: fet very famously um in nine there was a Bubba

1079
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: Fett that actually shot a missile, which is every parent

1080
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: knows is a chokable? Is the parents worst nightmare is that?

1081
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: Is that the term chable chokable something you can choke on?

1082
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: Is that a real like parents term? Yeah, that's awesome.

1083
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: I did not know. Yeah, supposedly anything smaller then a

1084
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: the size of a toilet paper roll tube. What is

1085
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: it chokable? Smaller than that? Yeah? So like, if you

1086
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: can fit something through a toilet paper tube, then your

1087
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: kid can choke on it. Got you? That's what they say.

1088
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: Who says that? I don't know that today show dumb

1089
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: dumb parenting blogs. That makes sense, though, Yeah, I can't

1090
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: fit a football through that can't choke on a football?

1091
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: That's correct. The system where he could choke on a

1092
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: tiny football though, I guess so the the chokable Boba

1093
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: fet um. Obviously, they said this is a choking hazard,

1094
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: so they scrapped the plans and redesigned it, and so

1095
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: they did eventually release uh, the figure, but it had

1096
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: that and I had this one, not the one that

1097
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: shot the rocket, because they never released that one, right,

1098
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: I specifically remember being in the same room with one

1099
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: that shot a rocket or it wasn't hacked. Here's the

1100
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: other possible UM explanation. Uh, I saw it on an

1101
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: ad and a confusing reality with television again, because it

1102
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: says here they never released them in stores. I saw

1103
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: that too. But I'm like, I swear I saw one

1104
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: of these things, or maybe we were just playing with

1105
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: and we're like, this thing sucks. If it actually shot

1106
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: the missile would be so much better, and I imagine

1107
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: what that would be like, and then accidentally formed of memory.

1108
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: Who knows. I'm forty years old now, I can't remember

1109
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: what was going on when I was seven or eight. Uh.

1110
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: As far as how valuable these things are if you

1111
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: can get your hands on one, I mean I've seen

1112
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: things all over the place. One was sold for eighteen

1113
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: thousand dollars last year. But then I also saw one

1114
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: where supposedly a hundred thousand dollar offer at a Southby's

1115
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: auction was turned down. What so I have no idea

1116
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 1: the value of these dudes, but it's a lot of dough.

1117
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: Is that the Holy Grail one? Well, this is one

1118
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: of the holy grails. Do you remember what another Holy

1119
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: Grail you saw was? Yeah? The other one is is

1120
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: supposedly the most valuable is the double telescoping lightsaber for

1121
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: uh for Obi Wan, Darth Vader, and Luke, and I

1122
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: think Luke's is the the most expensive. Um. If you

1123
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: remember the little did you have any of these? I

1124
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: had a couple. So the lightsaber guys had a thing

1125
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: on the bottom of their arm, a little groove cut

1126
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: out with a little uh, a little you know, plastic

1127
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: knob that you would uh shove up towards the wrist

1128
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: and the lightsaber would come out of the hand as

1129
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: if it were turning on. The double telescoping because that's

1130
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: a telescoping feature. Double telescoping means that you could extend

1131
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: it even further out from the original telescope, and those

1132
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: supposedly are super rare and uh worth a lot of dough.

1133
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: So that one I saw actually online, um oh man,

1134
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: I can't remember the site, but it was it's a

1135
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: it's great, it's a great Star Wars action figure site. Um,

1136
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: and they had a picture of it. Have you seen it? Yeah?

1137
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: I thought I had one, but I can't find it,

1138
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: So I don't think I do. Like the the regular

1139
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: lightsaber that they had was just fine, but then the

1140
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: double telescoping part was just like this extra thinner, pointy

1141
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: piece of plastic that hung down at like a weird angle.

1142
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: It didn't keep going straight. Yeah, they always kind of

1143
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: bent and it looked just it looked broken, you know. Yeah.

1144
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: But even if I did have one, it it's well worned.

1145
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: So it's not like I mean, I think all of

1146
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: these things, it's always like mint condition in the package.

1147
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: It's worth this. Don't even talk to me if it's

1148
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: not mint. Yeah, that's the that's the slogan. So I

1149
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: would love some of this cleared up by experts. Um. Oh, well,

1150
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: we'll hear from them. The Bubba fet matter. Yeah, I

1151
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: don't even know why I'm asking the Bubba fet matter,

1152
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: the like which one is truly the Holy Grail? Uh?

1153
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: What happened with the Kenner or not Kenner? The Mego

1154
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: Star Wars deal? And did did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone? Yes,

1155
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: we need answers, Pete Pull you got anything else? I

1156
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: got nothing else. This is a big overview. There's clearly

1157
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: many more stories to be told. I got a couple,

1158
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: a couple more. I just want to give shouts out

1159
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: Yo Joe dot com if you were into G I

1160
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: Joe's and you want to feel nostalgic, uh, go check

1161
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: that site out. It's amazing. Um. And then I created

1162
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: a gallery a few years ago called Hilarious Knockoffs and

1163
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: Legs of Beloved Toys, and it's just like the slide

1164
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: show of toys from around the world that are it's

1165
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: pretty obvious what they're supposed to be, but they're not,

1166
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: like the names just a little off or um. They

1167
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: they they've tried to come up with a new brand altogether,

1168
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: but it's just some cheap version of something great. So

1169
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: go check that out too. It's kind of cool. It

1170
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: was fun to put together. And that's that's it, man,

1171
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: It's all I got. Go watch the G I Joe

1172
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: p s A s by Eric Finzler again. They still

1173
01:06:55,600 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: hold up. Do you remember those where it was like

1174
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: like just weird dubs of those G I Joe p

1175
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: s as Like, now you know and knowing is half

1176
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: the battle. You haven't seen these I don't think so. Okay,

1177
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 1: I'll send them to you. You're gonna die laughing good. Yeah,

1178
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: you'll love him. You've been trying to kill me for years.

1179
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: It's lightful way to do it. But this time I

1180
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: won't be wearing gloves coming at your neck. Uh. That's

1181
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: it for me, man, that's it for me. Okay. Well,

1182
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: if you want to know more about action figures, you

1183
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: can take those words into the search bar of your

1184
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: favorite UM search engine. Since I said search engine and

1185
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: didn't do any buzz marketing, it's time for a listener mail.

1186
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna plug Kiva, which we haven't done in a

1187
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: long time. It's a good idea. K I v A

1188
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: is a micro lending website that we have been We've

1189
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: had a team now stuff you should know team for geez,

1190
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: how many years? Six or seven? I think it was

1191
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: two thousand eight or two two thousand nine, eight years,

1192
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: seven or eight years? All right, So this is from Jordan,

1193
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go over a little bit more

1194
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: about how our tina's looking. Hey, guys, once I listened

1195
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: to uh podcasts where you promote Kiva, I decided to

1196
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: google the Kiva donation thing and eventually found it correctly

1197
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: as k I v a dot com. I immediately love

1198
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: the site. It's the epitome of how to take the

1199
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: globalized world and use that for good. So often donations

1200
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: come in the form of awkward late night infomercials or

1201
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: five second quips at the grocery line where you begrudgingly

1202
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: make an enemy out of the seventeen year old clerk

1203
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 1: for saying, no, I don't want to give a dollar

1204
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,919
Speaker 1: to need each children. Uh. While all types of donations

1205
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: are generally good, Kiva makes you feel even more personal

1206
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: and once one can certainly give their money to needs

1207
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: that are important to them, you probably get your money back,

1208
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: which is great. But no way did that motivate me

1209
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: to loan, and I suspect to most people to use

1210
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: Kiva would also be happy to have their money go

1211
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: to those in need without getting a return. However, if

1212
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: I do decide to receive my money back, I will

1213
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 1: certainly use those funds to circulate that Kiva site again.

1214
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: In other words, loan, that's one of the keys I

1215
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: think of feeling preachy now for writing you an email

1216
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: on the basis that I just loaned what amounts to

1217
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: a small amount of cash. But I just want to

1218
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: thank you guys for sharing that site and allowing people

1219
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: like myself to make their lives better. That's from Jordan's

1220
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: bachelor who claims to be a US defector. You can

1221
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: move from the US. I can't remember where he lives now,

1222
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: just be cheeky. So we started this Kiva team a

1223
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: long time ago and um, right now we have over

1224
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: nine thousand members and we are almost at four million bucks. Dude,

1225
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: three million, nine thousand, three hundred twenty five dollars loaned.

1226
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: That is a hundred and forty three thousand, one d

1227
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: fifty five loans average of sixteen loans per member. And

1228
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: just to give you an idea of how it works,

1229
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: you donate money, you will most likely get paid back,

1230
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: and then they say you can check out and take

1231
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: your money back, or you can roll that into another loan. Uh.

1232
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: I started off with a couple of hundred bucks way

1233
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: back when, and that now, just because I keep reinvesting,

1234
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: it has grown to one thousand, one twenty five dollars

1235
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: forty seven loans and my default rate is only four nice. Yeah,

1236
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: the default rate is not bad at all. It's not bad.

1237
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: So you can take a little bit. You can take

1238
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: twenty five dollars even and keep reloaning that and that

1239
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: in a few years, five or six years can be

1240
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, hundreds and hundreds of dollars relan to people.

1241
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: Um really makes a big difference. We did our research

1242
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: on Kiva. They're not perfect, but we think they do

1243
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: a really good job. And um, you know, we have

1244
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 1: the stuff you should Know team, so we would love

1245
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: to see people sign up for it, push us over

1246
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: that four million dollar mark, which is crazy. And yeah,

1247
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,919
Speaker 1: yeah we're not exclusive, We're not snobs, and neither anybody

1248
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 1: on our team. It's a very very welcoming the people

1249
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: who are really active on the board. UM there lad

1250
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: unofficially but de facto by Glenn and Sonya who have

1251
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: emerged to be these these great team leaders that like

1252
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: just keep everybody going and motivated and moderate and make

1253
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: sure everybody's on the up and up. And if they

1254
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: send us emails and reminders about how we're doing, hats

1255
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: off to those guys. Thank you guys for that. Yeah,

1256
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: so civa dot org I think I said dot com earlier, Um,

1257
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: and just go to the team section search stuff you

1258
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: should know, join the team for somebody's way. You can

1259
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: you can give to people that are doing things that

1260
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: are close to your heart, or maybe countries you've been

1261
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: to that you want to help support. Uh, you can

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