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Speaker 1: Of Course, Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This

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Speaker 1: classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Welcome to Part two of Dj Jazzy Jeff

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Speaker 1: on QLs Classic.

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Speaker 2: Now this is a little bit different.

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Speaker 3: Part one was courtesy of August twenty eighteen. We didn't

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Speaker 3: even get to part two until almost a full year later.

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Speaker 3: So here we are May fifteenth, twenty nineteen, almost a

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Speaker 3: year later, with the great DJ Jazzy Jeff Part two

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Speaker 3: QLs Classic.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Were we even breathe in two thousand?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: Sma roll suprima, supremo, roll suprima, so prevo suprimah should

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Speaker 6: it seven?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? And Jessie Jeff repequestion, Yeah, I can't agree.

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Speaker 6: So suppriva roll called, Suprema Suprema roll call.

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Speaker 4: My name is Fante.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm just kicking.

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Speaker 4: It yeah on ql S. Yeah, with the magnificent Roma.

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Speaker 6: So supprevo roll call, Suprema so supremo.

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Speaker 4: Roll called. My name is Sugar, Yeah, Yeah, I'm always high.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Can we interview? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This guy.

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Speaker 6: Sore supriva roll call, supriva sou so.

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Speaker 2: Suprema roll call. First you grabbed the hat Yeah, then

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Speaker 2: you grip the hat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then you flip the hat. Yeah, make sure it's

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Speaker 4: a Scotter Cato Suprema Son.

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Speaker 2: Some Supreva roll called.

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Speaker 4: That was Upprema Son Son Supremo.

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Speaker 6: Roll call.

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Speaker 4: I'm on pay Bill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't get it silly. Yeah, how could today? Yeah

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Speaker 2: anymore Philly roll.

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Speaker 6: Call Sun Suprema roll Suprema Sun Sun Supremo. Roll call.

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Speaker 5: Yeah back with Jeff. Yeah, a better Aquarius. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: ain't met one yet.

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Speaker 4: Roll call.

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Speaker 6: Supreme Supremo Supremo.

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Speaker 4: Roll came. My name is Jeff. Yeah this is true. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm back on QLs. Yeah for part two.

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Speaker 6: Roll call Supreva Sun Sun Supremo. Roll call Suprema Sun Supremo.

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Speaker 6: Roll call Suprema Sun Sun Supremo. Roll call Suprema Sun

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Speaker 6: So Supreme roll.

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Speaker 4: Call starter cap Okay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, other role all would have been something about nine Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right soon bell Yo.

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Speaker 7: Shout out to bost Bill, who made it explicitly clear

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Speaker 7: that he didn't want any eating on this show.

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Speaker 4: And yeah we know why, right, I should have Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I should have listened.

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Speaker 2: It was almost died call like we have this. Shout

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Speaker 2: out to the studio.

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Speaker 7: We're still at uh in our Philly pilgrimage where at

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Speaker 7: the Milk Boy Studio aka the studio, and they're fancy

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Speaker 7: cheese here and.

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Speaker 4: Fancy cheese.

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Speaker 7: There's something about there's something about when that organ shrill starts,

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Speaker 7: there's a level of panic in the air, and like

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Speaker 7: the intro, that's.

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Speaker 2: That's some early QLs reference for our listeners.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I heard it.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, my my love for Latin quarter stories. Yes,

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Speaker 7: when those drums happened, that means someone's getting their ass

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Speaker 7: beat at the Latin quarter.

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Speaker 4: When that when those rules come in.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but when I heard the organ thing, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 7: I'm eating cheese. Oh I don't know, I'll swallow it

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Speaker 7: real quick.

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Speaker 4: And then that was it. I was choking. So this

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Speaker 4: is a historical first, ladies and gentlemen, we have our

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Speaker 4: first repeat guests knew this movement was happening, kind of wow, well, okay,

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Speaker 4: half the people weren't here at the time when Jeff

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Speaker 4: came before. So this is this is the full the

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Speaker 4: full throttle Jazzy Jeff episode with all the members present.

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Speaker 5: But would you like to tell them why we had

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Speaker 5: to have a part two?

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Speaker 4: Why we didn't even get the Will Smith. Yeah, Will

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Speaker 4: Smith was not even interpart. Woo, So we can start

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Speaker 4: like the Biggie record previously over. He did die? So, Jeff,

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Speaker 4: you were five years old when you got your first

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Speaker 4: All right, Jeff, so in nineteen seventy eight. All right?

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Speaker 7: We ended talking about the DMC battle and how Jeff

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Speaker 7: wanted to It's one.

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Speaker 2: Of my favorite episodes.

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Speaker 7: I actually wow, not only mind narcissistic, I'm also a

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Speaker 7: sponge full of information.

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Speaker 4: I remembered that.

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Speaker 7: He used the wrong turn tables and still won the

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Speaker 7: battle against was it DJ Cheese?

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay Cheese, that's ironic. You used like a belt

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Speaker 4: drawer direct? What was wrong? It was two setups and

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Speaker 4: one of them wasn't acting right, and everybody that used

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Speaker 4: that setup lost, and he dissed me, and I got

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Speaker 4: mad and I wanted to beat him on the bad setup.

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Speaker 4: So I did beat him. So I did it?

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Speaker 2: He whoofed his ass? Yes? So then once you're crown king, uh,

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Speaker 2: what happens?

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Speaker 4: Like? I mean, they gave me a big cup and

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Speaker 4: you like all of the all of the DMCs after

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Speaker 4: that or the New Music seminars, they gave a belt

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Speaker 4: and they gave me a cup. I mean I appreciate

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Speaker 4: the cup.

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Speaker 2: You know, first you take the cup. Yeah, but you

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Speaker 2: know I can't. I came home.

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Speaker 4: I can't. The funny thing is I came home and

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Speaker 4: went straight to W Das because you know, did you cut?

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Speaker 2: Did you cut? Is that the night that you cut? Baby,

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Speaker 2: let's go go. You went to Das.

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Speaker 4: This is in the eighties, and you stayed on the

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Speaker 4: only thing that a musquite and you cut big chump beat,

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Speaker 4: a big drum beater four minutes straight. And it's what

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Speaker 4: they that wasn't me, No, no, no, no, you were

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Speaker 4: cutting it for a street.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you were cutting big jump.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's after this night particular. No,

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Speaker 2: I probably wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know we we lived in d A, Yes,

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Speaker 4: you know we we we had kind of had car

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Speaker 4: blocks that you just kind of show up stop. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeahs was like that. I like that. Yeah, shout out

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Speaker 4: to uh everyone a d s uh j Ones and

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Speaker 4: and well j Ones.

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Speaker 5: Is now uh uh uh he's like the record, he's

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Speaker 4: J Ones is now the right hand man of DJA. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But you know that was doing the workdays.

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Speaker 4: That's great.

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Speaker 7: I mean that had their Yeah Mixed show at Friday

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Speaker 7: nights between like nine thirty and Cut Master Butter and

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Speaker 7: uh cut What was his name, Lawrence Levon?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, that's also the night that Larry he's a guy

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Speaker 2: from Philly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: There's always these glorious names that if your name, if

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Speaker 7: you're a French name in black, dude, you're that's quite glorious.

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Speaker 2: So I guess we can start with how did you

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Speaker 2: meet Will Smith?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Okay, Well, you know, back back then, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: uh like a bunch of really big groups, you know,

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Speaker 4: it was it was everybody had a DJ on their

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Speaker 4: block and then they we would all kind of get together,

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Speaker 4: you know, at the wind the Hotel, Philadelphia, Wagoner's ball Room,

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Speaker 4: just all of the spots in the city. So I

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Speaker 4: knew of Will. I knew, you know, he was on

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Speaker 4: I knew the group that he was with, this group,

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Speaker 4: the Hypnotic mcskay. Yeah, And it was crazy because this

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Speaker 4: is kind of well it's not kind of this is

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Speaker 4: pre cell phone, pre anything. This is like, yo, I

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Speaker 4: got to call you in the cre If you don't answer,

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Speaker 4: we're done, and somebody called me and said, hey, I

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Speaker 4: got a party for you on fifty ninth in Woodcrest tonight.

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Speaker 4: And I picked up the phone and I called Ice,

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Speaker 4: who is my MC? And Ice wasn't in the house. Wow,

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Speaker 4: And you know, I was like, okay, you know, I

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Speaker 4: got to go and do it. So, you know, we

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Speaker 4: jumped in the car. We drove up there. Come to

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Speaker 4: find out there was two doors away from Will. So

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Speaker 4: when I came and set up, of course, you know

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Speaker 4: Will and I want to come down in the basement

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Speaker 4: and kind of see who's doing the party, and then

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Speaker 4: realized it was me. It was like, oh man. So

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Speaker 4: he was like, hey, where's Ice. I was like I couldn't.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't find you. He's like, yo, you mine if

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Speaker 4: I rock, And I was like nah, And we got

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Speaker 4: on and it was just it was a anybody who

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Speaker 4: DJ's or anybody who raps for a good DJ knows

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Speaker 4: that there's this chemistry and you know, I my brain

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Speaker 4: your fourth bar is going to be your punchline for you.

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Speaker 4: So I'm kind of like, yo, I'll drop out or

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Speaker 4: just do a scratch there and it was just but

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Speaker 4: it was also Will with somebody that watched and was like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: Jeff does this with this hand, and he does this

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Speaker 4: with this hand. So he would tell me to do something,

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Speaker 4: but he would always tell me to do it while

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Speaker 4: I was on the opposite hand to set it up

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Speaker 4: so for me to realize that he paid that much

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Speaker 4: It was kind of like one of those things like

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Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, this is the best night of

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Speaker 4: my life and this is crazy, and what you're doing tomorrow?

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Speaker 7: I got a party to do tomorrow and you know,

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Speaker 7: so essentially you two are having an affair with each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh absolutely. How do you tell your respective cruise?

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Speaker 4: Well, how do you know?

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Speaker 2: I don't know how he handled it.

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Speaker 4: I know you know what it was.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was a couple of shows that Will and Ice

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Speaker 4: did together and you could definitely tell the difference. Is

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Speaker 4: there an age difference between the two.

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Speaker 2: Ice might be a little bit maybe two years older

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Speaker 2: than Will. Hmmm, so is that dog years and years?

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Speaker 4: Like no, no, no, no, no, no, Well you gotta

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Speaker 4: understand this was so early. You know, it might have

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Speaker 4: been twenty rap records out period, so we're not even

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Speaker 4: talking about the Rutgers. We're just talking about everybody. It was,

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Speaker 4: you know, it was a main cruise in Philly, right,

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Speaker 4: and it was just kind of like what year is

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Speaker 4: by the way, eighty five?

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Speaker 2: Okay, eighty five? And it was it was notice was

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Speaker 2: it eighty five?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? It was eighty five. You're still cutting a shout.

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Speaker 4: We're doing all of that, you know, we were doing

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Speaker 4: something with drum with a drum machine. I had a

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Speaker 4: routine that I did with a nine on nine that

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Speaker 4: was that I used to do this thing with a

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Speaker 4: nine on nine and this boss foot pedal that on

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Speaker 4: the back of the nine on nine there's a there's

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Speaker 4: a trigger out and and the trigger out is the

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Speaker 4: rim shot. So if you plug the boss foot pedal

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Speaker 4: Well you were always ahead of it, like you and technology. Nah. Listen.

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Speaker 9: I want to say, I found out about Final Scratch

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I smoked my vote, my first baby pen

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Speaker 2: I'm all the way across the board technology game.

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Speaker 7: You know so about and how are you finding about?

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Speaker 7: You're not up on this next, like I don't think

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Speaker 7: I don't think you are?

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Speaker 2: You know you you you know.

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Speaker 4: I grew up going downtown every day, going into funkal

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Speaker 2: But it was just so I could get on the

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Speaker 4: Do it, do it, do it? Wait?

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Speaker 2: Were you were you ever that type of DJ where

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Speaker 4: Own listen, shut up, you gotta understand listen. I was

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Speaker 4: and Addison go curl girl, girl, your mama's coming. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 7: So in doing these routines, then how do you guys,

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Speaker 2: Well you know what. Everything happened really fast because Will

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Speaker 4: Like he was. He was serious, and it was kind

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Speaker 4: And and I know you'll remember this like Phillip, Philly

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Speaker 7: Wait time out, so spawn or engineer in the other

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Speaker 2: I went to the wrong corner coopia.

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Speaker 7: Oh no, there's there's a corner coopia bar on fifty

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Speaker 7: second and Gerard, yeah, and I walked in that motherfucker

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Speaker 2: Like all this was it was rented ballrooms. Like the

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Speaker 4: The Wind wasn't a club you rented to win, you

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Speaker 4: rented the hotel Philadelphia. We didn't have like I almost

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Speaker 4: want to say that the first club that we actually

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Speaker 2: Wow, like after midnight was a specific was a club.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know that's what was the Spaghetti Factory. No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the first after midnight was the what

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Speaker 4: understand the spaghetti warehouse after midnight. Oh, that ship lasted

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Speaker 4: about three months. That that had the potential to be

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Speaker 4: Philly's best club ever. And the people in the neighborhood

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Speaker 4: that was open for about three months. Really yeah, wow,

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Speaker 4: that was eight and Cherry Boss Bill. Were we allowed

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Speaker 4: to play that freestyle? M No, I mean I rather

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Speaker 2: Apologize, you know, follow trying to figure out you got that? Yes,

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Speaker 2: you never heard it? Of course I heard it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just shocked that you got Well, no, I'm not shocked.

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Speaker 4: Do you know who he? I forgot who? No, I

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Speaker 2: So what historical shows that you've seen?

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Speaker 4: Listen?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know everything that was that after midnight?

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Speaker 4: Because like I said, you know, once after midnight came,

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Speaker 4: and Big Daddy Kane would come through, and Stetsy Sonic

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Speaker 4: it was the home. I finally got Big Daddy came

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Speaker 4: to talk about the Jazz Fresh Battle. I got that.

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Speaker 4: I got that. You have a battle on tape. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I got that. Chef sounds like there's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: trade happening here. We don't ever trade. We just give

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, I say, by the way, by the way,

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Speaker 7: I mean a big part of Philly's presence in late

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Speaker 7: Massive Square Garden really wasn't having that. So you really

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Speaker 4: Five yeah to Philly to do uh dispatch the midnight

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh right, the spectrum of course for that stuff.

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Speaker 2: So how do you guys, how do you put.

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Speaker 7: Routines together when it's time to do How long are

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Man, you was playing for an hour? Wait? I mean, well,

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Speaker 4: you got to keep them oud. It was ninety seven

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Speaker 4: you listen. Don't make me pull out them flyers and

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Speaker 4: see how many people were on those shows.

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Speaker 2: You weren't doing three to four hours a year.

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Speaker 4: No, first of all, let me just explain because I

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Speaker 4: think you invented that exactly. You ind man, you know

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Speaker 4: how many people booked me. It was a quest love

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Speaker 4: played for. I was like, yeah, they don't do that.

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Speaker 2: I don't do that.

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Speaker 4: I can't do that.

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Speaker 5: Look what you did just an hour?

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Speaker 4: Well listen back then, but well not just that. What

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Speaker 4: you have to understand the the Live and Union Square

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Speaker 2: Ship we had two.

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Speaker 4: Records, like they didn't know that. Yeah, but they didn't

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Speaker 4: Like that was you gotta understand. When we started doing shows,

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Speaker 4: We were taking what we were doing before we had records,

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Speaker 4: kind of like, yo, I'm gonna start off and I'm

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Speaker 4: these two records a variety. Yeah, exactly. So you were

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Speaker 4: Everybody was that's it, that's it, and you just you know,

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Speaker 4: we need to show up. Well, first of all, you

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Speaker 4: gotta understand, we didn't know what they were doing. We

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Speaker 4: what everybody else was doing, right, So we got to

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Speaker 7: I found out when Reek first got to stretching, Barbidos

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no.

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Speaker 7: So that's why Reek became such a stickler for freestyling,

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Speaker 4: Hear them same albums. Yeah, absolutely, so wow, okay, so okay,

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Speaker 4: well making your twenty minute seven? Uh are you thinking

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Speaker 4: I mean everything was DJ are in it. You know,

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Speaker 4: were DJ records. You know, it's typical you know, dances, drummers,

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Speaker 4: that people know that you can manipulate that they can

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Speaker 4: just you just got these records that you would just

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Speaker 4: different records that you can cut and you only needed

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Speaker 5: But when did you realize that certain records are hotter

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Speaker 4: Oh man, let's the drummers preat let's stand to the

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Speaker 4: drummers beaten Houston. No no, no, I mean and trust me,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't until we started going out that you started realizing.

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Speaker 4: There was two things we I remember us doing. I

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Speaker 4: you have no idea what I'm doing. And it was

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Speaker 5: I do it.

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Speaker 4: Like we realized how you have to do it is

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Speaker 4: And then when you do it, everybody's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: like they didn't get it, Like hip hop hadn't come

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Speaker 2: So it was the same thing.

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00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 4: That's kind of like, Okay, I'm I'm cutting dances, drummers,

443
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 4: beat and then you get someplace and you do it

444
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 4: and you got that look like, Okay, they have no

445
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 4: idea what this record is. That's where Rock the Bells

446
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: came from. That's where Peter Piper came from, because you

447
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 4: cut records that everybody know. Like that was my biggest

448
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: criticism when I used to watch DJs and DJ battles,

449
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: that they would do these amazing routines off of records

450
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 4: that nobody know. It's kind of like, how do they

451
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: know what you did to it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you

452
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 4: have no perspective on it because I don't know what

453
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: it is. Yeah.

454
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 7: I'm trying to figure out that for stro right now,

455
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 7: because still I feel like the only people that are

456
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 7: truly mind blowing at what Stroe Elliott does and Jeremy

457
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 7: as well, is the roots on stage, because the whole

458
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 7: audience is just like a silent stunt like you know,

459
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 7: occasional Instagram will be like oh stroeh.

460
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 4: Like all all that is is just picking popular records,

461
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 4: but he and he doesn't how they're supposed to be done,

462
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 4: and then he flips it once we flips it the hip.

463
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: Hop on one right, same basically the same concept.

464
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 7: We got to figure out a way, Like when he

465
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 7: was saying, like instructions like a bird and break it

466
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 7: down right here, that sort of thing.

467
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 5: And when do you decide, Like that's what I was asking,

468
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 5: when do you decide when I go to DC. Okay,

469
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 5: I'm gonna play my ship, but also I know I

470
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 5: can play this because this this record was hot.

471
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 4: Here and you almost have to go to find out,

472
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: you know, because God blessed that time. Music was different

473
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 4: in every place that you went to, you know, and

474
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 4: you appreciated that. You know, I enjoyed doing those shows

475
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 4: that Columbus, Ohio was different. You know, you go to

476
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 4: you know, d C or Virginia. You know you got

477
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 4: a little bit of that go go stuff that you

478
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 4: can kind of add it. Like you you you heard

479
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: what each territory musical taste was. You know, I'm scared

480
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 4: of that today. Oh yeah, we don't have that. We

481
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 4: don't have.

482
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 9: The other day regional Like there's no regional sounds in none,

483
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 9: only the foundation.

484
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 5: Like I know, I feel like Jamaica Punk is like

485
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 5: a regional record, Like it's like a DC to those

486
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 5: kind of classes.

487
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 8: How did you inject you and Will when y'all first?

488
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 8: So your first deal wasn't directly with John?

489
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 6: No?

490
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, how was well? We did? You

491
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 4: know what was funny? You know?

492
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: Word up was an extension of pop art, which was

493
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 2: you know, was l Lawrene Goodman?

494
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, well understand Dana Goodman owned World Up,

495
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: so you know it's the Goodman So it was funny

496
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 4: because Dana lived around the corner from Will. So me

497
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 4: and Will did the demo of Girls Ain't Nothing but Trouble,

498
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 4: and Will gave it to Dana because we were you know.

499
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: We weren't even what did y'all even cut it on?

500
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: Oh listen, I had a I had a drum machine

501
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: and a four track and it was just kind of.

502
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: The original was done on the fore track. Well understand,

503
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 4: the original original was done over Moments in Love. Yes, I.

504
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: Do on the shoe Yeah, do you still have that?

505
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: No? I don't and I need that. I need that

506
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 4: to Will Will go crazy for that, dude. I we

507
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 4: lived on in London. We have that someone in my

508
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: storage unit. I got that she had do do on

509
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 4: the shoe, don't We got to go to the store

510
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 4: unit tomorrow. There you go, yeah we do, but yeah,

511
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 4: you know we we we did it. He gave and

512
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: he gave the demo to Dana. So it was funny

513
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 4: because Will called was like, Yo, Dana wants to come

514
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: over and talk to us about putting out a record.

515
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, So Dana comes to

516
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 4: my house and Dana walks up on the porch and

517
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 4: you know, you hear stories of Dana and Larrence. Dana

518
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: walks up on my porch and my next door neighbor, Keith,

519
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 4: looked at Dana and said pie and Dana looked at him.

520
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 4: So first of all, I'm like, who the fuck is Pie?

521
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 4: And Dana looked at him and said Hawk. So now

522
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, who the fuck is off? And

523
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 4: then they hugged and it was like.

524
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: Yo, man, what's going on?

525
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: How you doing? And he was like what are you

526
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 4: doing here? And Dana was like, I'm coming to check

527
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: out the young boy and his you know, in his demo,

528
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: and Keith's face got really serious and he looked at

529
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: Dana and he was like, pie, that's Jimmy Town's son.

530
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 4: I mean, Jimmy Town's brother. Don't fuck with him. Oh,

531
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 4: and I was looking like, what's going He said, that's

532
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: that's family. That's I'll never forget that. It's like, that's family.

533
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: So what did you just save you from that? You

534
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: don't know what just happened?

535
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 4: Well, well, I know Dana pulled a gun out on

536
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 4: Will Wait what oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's a

537
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: whole bunch of that. But yeah, none of that ever

538
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: happened to me. Wow, okay, yeah, so let's talk about

539
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 4: the let's not let's not gloss over it. Yeah, the

540
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: crafting of Girls ain't nothing but trouble. What's some major

541
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 4: ship Because it was like by that point you could choose.

542
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: You could choose two squads. You could either go the

543
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: schooly d squad of where everyone else was going. What

544
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 4: I call like, uh, you know, blues is uh, blues

545
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: is crafted. Uh you know, like the first chord, then

546
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: the fourth and the fifth.

547
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 7: In other words, you know you're set up lining right

548
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 7: here and then your second set of line round here,

549
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 7: and then your first set of line round and then

550
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 7: the punchline and if.

551
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: You no no no no no no, and then then

552
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: I'll take a sister too. And with schooly D, it's

553
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 4: the same thing with It's like the two set up lines.

554
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 7: I went to no no no no no no no,

555
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 7: and then I got no no no no no no

556
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 7: no no no, and win no no no no no

557
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 7: no no no no, and then the punchline something, and

558
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 7: then I pulled my gun. Then y'all could easily went

559
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 7: there because everybody in their mom was going to the

560
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 7: schooly D narrative route you guys chose. I felt you

561
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 7: guys were more trying to go the slick Rick route,

562
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 7: which kind of Will's version of slick Rick click. He

563
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 7: sort of carved his own lane, which I still don't

564
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 7: know what people decided to call it or whatever, but

565
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 7: it's it's more like, you know, I felt like that

566
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 7: was the next step that dott he should have went for, yeah,

567
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 7: for Doug and Rick, and it didn't.

568
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: Now it's you guys.

569
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like, how did you guys craft? It was

570
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: just like, okay, let's.

571
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: Will was a great storyteller. So he he he had

572
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: Girls at Nothing but Trouble written, and I just programmed

573
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: the beat and grabbed the TV tunes record and play

574
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: I Dream a Genie.

575
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and he wrote it.

576
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: But you know, like I said, I remember doing shows

577
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: playing that, you know, cutting the instrumental of moments in love,

578
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: and Will would do moments you know, Will would do

579
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 4: Girls in Nothing but Trouble. And I was blown away

580
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: at how everybody was looking at his mouth like waiting

581
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 4: for the next line. And I was like, yo, like

582
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: this is crazy. Like this he's got some power, if

583
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You're telling something that that

584
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: that's that visual that you can kind of see it

585
00:31:59,320 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: in your head.

586
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: So he was always a start.

587
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: He was all yeah, he always had that that level

588
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 4: of writing. Uh, that was very visual. Now doing business

589
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 4: with Goodman, yeah.

590
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you know what this is. This is

591
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: this is back in the day.

592
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: There was I had no aspirations to make a record

593
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: like that wasn't it you know, my in my brain,

594
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: I had my life's set. I was about to go

595
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: work at pg W because they had great benefits. I

596
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 4: was going to take a two week vacation in wild would,

597
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: and I was going to get a house on Coys

598
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 4: Creek Parkway so I could look across the street at

599
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: some grass, Like.

600
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: I really thought that that was it path mark.

601
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: So when it was kind of like, hey, let's put this,

602
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: let's let's do this record, we go in the studio

603
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 4: and basically, you know, take my drum machine and record

604
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 4: it and fly Girls in that my trouble in and

605
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: Will Will does it and he puts it out and

606
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: it starts getting played on d A S and then

607
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: it starts getting played on BLS in New York, and

608
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: then we have to go to New York and then

609
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: we do Latin Quarters and we do this and next thing,

610
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: you know, when North Carolina like this, this was all

611
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 4: happening really fast. Girls dropped two days before Will graduated

612
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 4: from Overbrook. Oh wow, so like that listen that was

613
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: oh man, like he was the the the graduation party,

614
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: and you gotta he was balling.

615
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: He was balling because it was a hit.

616
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: Oh man, it was. It was playing it everywhere like

617
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 4: and and and it was also in my brain, I'm like, okay,

618
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 4: he about to go to college, like and we start

619
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 4: we end up we go to LA and start doing stuff,

620
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: and the next you know, we got a call like

621
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: they you know, this is blowing up huge in London.

622
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: They want you to come over and do Top of

623
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: the Pops. And we didn't know what Top of the

624
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: Pops was.

625
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 4: A the top no listen, So we get over there

626
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: and we didn't have work papers, so they wouldn't let

627
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 4: us perform. So we literally flew over there for them

628
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: to say, hey, this is DJ Judge Jeff for the

629
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 4: first Prince and we said hi everybody, and they played

630
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: girls ain't.

631
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: Nothing but trouble, but you couldn't perform. No, we couldn't perform.

632
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: I hate like but it was, you know, and it

633
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: got to the point that it started gaining so much

634
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: traction that Will kind of went to his mom and

635
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 4: dad was like, you know, I gotta I gotta see

636
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: where this's go, you know.

637
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: And you know, it's crazy because it was played on

638
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: the radio and us doing all of that traveling. You

639
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: gotta understand, we didn't have a family member that had

640
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,959
Speaker 2: ever been to London, so it was kind of like, listen,

641
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: I can't say nothing. I got okay, you know, and

642
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: that was it, like it it started and never stopped.

643
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: You know.

644
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: We did Girls in that Much Trouble?

645
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: Of course, you know Dana wanted to do Guys Ain't

646
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 4: nothing but trouble because everybody wanted to do an answer.

647
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: So he was right, let's let's answer our own record.

648
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: So who's like is ice cream No?

649
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 8: No?

650
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: Like you know ice cream tea? I think Lady b

651
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 4: knew ice cream tea. So we did Guys in that

652
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: Much Trouble. Then we did just one of those days,

653
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 4: which is the record that I hate with. Let me

654
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: tell you, let me tell you why, let me tell

655
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 4: you why. Listen.

656
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: So Dana, Dana is in the studio.

657
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 4: So first of all, the first lesson that it's girls

658
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 4: in him, but Trouble comes out and that ship says

659
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 4: produced and written by de Goodman, And I was just

660
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: kind of like, okay, if he did that, I'm just

661
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 4: trying to figure out what did I actually do? Like

662
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm trying to figure it out because I

663
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: know we came in the studio and then Dana would

664
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 4: give these instructions like turn the kick jawn up, and

665
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: you could tell an engineer who was terrified of Dana

666
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: that he's kind of like, I don't like I would

667
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: watch him put his hand on the knob and never

668
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 4: turn it, and he'd like turn the kick jawn up

669
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 4: and he would turn the volume up. They had Ury

670
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: speakers that the old Ury speakers had the light that

671
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: when they would clip, the light would come on. Every

672
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: time the light came on, he would be like, that's it.

673
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 4: And I'm just saying, he just turned the volume up.

674
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: But you know what, your secret is safe for me

675
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: because I know he didn't really know what he was

676
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: talking about.

677
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 7: So Dana, wait time out. I believe that the studios

678
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 7: on Jeff chest Okay, I thought it was. He also

679
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 7: did the Goodman stuff, all.

680
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, no, that was Joe the Butcher. So Dana

681
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: felt that the hook of Girls Ain't Nothing but Trouble

682
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 4: follow Me was too slow. The hook was too slow.

683
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: So he kept saying, I want to speed it up,

684
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: and I'm saying, you can't speed up the hook and

685
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: not speed up the record. So they splice the tape

686
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: and sped it up. So if you listen to just

687
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 4: one of those days, oh yeah, get to the place.

688
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: Oh wait, I know what.

689
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: You're talking about. It gets really fast and it slows down.

690
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: Always wondered about that.

691
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. With you again. I thought that was

692
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 4: you You have to understand that the hair on the

693
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: back of my neck is rising, that you're playing you

694
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: wait over your life and you just can't sing right.

695
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: And when you just hadn't say you said, man, it's

696
00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: just one of those.

697
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: Hold on Washington chains, hold on.

698
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 5: Just that part.

699
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he did it and he released it.

700
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

701
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: I always thought that was kind of weird, but I

702
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: thought that was just no, no, no, no, that was

703
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: that was so good.

704
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 8: I mean when they were the street guys, like where

705
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 8: the street the street guy, I mean, and and and.

706
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 4: You know, not not taking anything away life. Yeah, I'm

707
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 4: sure are they not incarcerating listen? I don't know. I mean,

708
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 4: but you know. The funny thing is like Dana and

709
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 4: Lawrence Goodman, especially Lawrence Goodman. When you think about it,

710
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 4: Lawrence Goodman was the first death jam. Lawrence Goodman had

711
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: salt and pepper, you know. Lawrence Goodman had like everybody,

712
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 4: you know, everybody, he had everyone what happened you know?

713
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 6: Man?

714
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: You know sometimes you can't separate church and state.

715
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: Damn.

716
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: Because his sons, his sons were the.

717
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 5: Young It's all coming together in my head now. I

718
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 5: thought he worked for like PGW.

719
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: Or something me, so, you know, it was and it was.

720
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: It was crazy because then we put the album out.

721
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 4: We went in the studio and recorded the album. Thank

722
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: god he didn't spend anything up other than that or that,

723
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 4: and the album comes out and the album starts to

724
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: blow up. So the only money that we were ever

725
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 4: making was from shows, like you know, and and you know,

726
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: I knew, I knew where this was going. And then

727
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: what happened was JOV reached out and was like, yo,

728
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 4: they want to pick the record up. So I remember

729
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: us going up to the meeting with Job and I

730
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: was just praying, like because the only to me, the

731
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 4: only chance of success that we would have is to

732
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: get either off of World Up Records or have major

733
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: distribution like we did with Job. Was he just the

734
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 4: label or was he.

735
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: No?

736
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no he was. He was just

737
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 4: a label. He was just a label. So when we

738
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 4: signed or when he signed to Jive, you know, that's

739
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 4: when we could officially get rid of the run DMC

740
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: album cover.

741
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: I love that though.

742
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 4: Whose idea was that that was Dana's man? That ship

743
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 4: was whack, that was whack. He took run DMC's album

744
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: cover and we did it, and man, like, listen, fuck them.

745
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: I felt some kind of way people was just like,

746
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 4: how you gonna just had a run DMC cover?

747
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 2: No, listen, that was not cool.

748
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: That was so not cool. That was absolutely not cool.

749
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: I mean I still have a copy of that, and

750
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 4: I'm not getting rid of me. I was going to say, one,

751
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: it's very expensive to fine. But I saw it as homage.

752
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: I never saw that as we biting. Well, he was biting.

753
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: It's called the house. He was rocked the house. He

754
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: was biting. But you know, if it's under five years,

755
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 4: then it's biting, but if it's over ten years, it's amage.

756
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 4: Maybe that's the rule now homage. I mean, listen, Run

757
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 4: DMC had just come out, So did they ever say anything? Okay, No,

758
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: I mean, thank god, listen. The people who bought the

759
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: word up vinyl did not equate to the people who

760
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 4: bought the job. I get it.

761
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: So the wholes of the word up rock the House?

762
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: Was it the exact same record?

763
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: Y'all did another version of Girls that wasn't on that

764
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: wasn't on the album. That was yeah, yeah, but that

765
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 4: was also after that was that was after parents, That

766
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 4: was job with the Job chasing some ship.

767
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 9: While we were talking about jiving you guys signed over,

768
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 9: there was there any trepidation because they already had a

769
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 9: jazzy Jeff.

770
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, let me tell you something.

771
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: What saved me because he sued me really oh yeah,

772
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: he tried to sue me for twenty million dollars, which

773
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: I thought was that absolute joke because I was just like,

774
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 4: where the fuck are you gonna get that at it?

775
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: But when we sat down in that meeting talking about

776
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: you know, like when we were doing the distribution deal,

777
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 4: I said it, I said, wait a minute, are we

778
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: going to have an issue because you have a jazzy

779
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 4: Jeff signed to your label? And they said, no, we'll

780
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: take care of it. By take care of it, they

781
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 4: means stop promoting his record, you know, and Jeff like,

782
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: what what was he was? It was?

783
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: It was that was Jazzy Jeff fro the Funky four

784
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: plus one more. Ah yeah, okay. He did a solo

785
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: deal on Job.

786
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: And then you know when when everything started, I don't

787
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: know what happened with him, but you know, after some

788
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: years he was just kind of like, yo, like you

789
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: you took my name, and I'm like nigga. My name

790
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: is Jeff.

791
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: Jeff, you know, but did you have any other Yeah,

792
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: did you have other options?

793
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 9: Or?

794
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: Man, I was mixed I was Mixed Master Jeff before

795
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: I was Jazzy Jeff. But that ship was way too expensive.

796
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 4: You tried going getting the shirt with Mixed Master Jeff

797
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 4: paking twenty five cents a leven. I was like, you lucky,

798
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 4: My ship wasn't j Jeff.

799
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 9: Since we're on, since we're on the topic of the name,

800
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 9: I want to fact check discogs really quick. Are you

801
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 9: on this because all boys records? Yes, okay, corner Boys, yes, okay,

802
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 9: that's all I need to know. Oh yeah, yes, And

803
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 9: what were those records?

804
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 4: They were?

805
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: They were Philly groups, Philly groups that you I did

806
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: scratches on like.

807
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 4: This was eighty five yeah, oh wow, wow. Listen, you

808
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: was just.

809
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: Trying to be on the record, like I said, Man,

810
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: I was.

811
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 4: I was trying to get crad down at PGW, which

812
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 4: is Philadelphia Gas Works, right, I was.

813
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: Trying to be down there, like yeah, you know how

814
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: just scratches on that.

815
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 8: No, you didn't even look my name, you know, I

816
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 8: didn't ship. That happened you mentioned earlier. You was talking

817
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 8: about Goodman. They was like, you know, that's Jimmy Town's brother,

818
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 8: So what was your brother? That was the seventies. You know,

819
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 8: they was in all kinds of ship. So, you know,

820
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 8: it was just like people people knew, Like I didn't.

821
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know the level of respect that my brother

822
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 4: and my brother's friends had until after I got older

823
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: that you realized, you know, like, okay, they was you

824
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 4: know this is back gang Wars.

825
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, you know, this is all of that.

826
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: So you know, I think they knew, you know, they

827
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: knew of each other.

828
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: And evidently for him saying that had more to do

829
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 4: with you know, I know how you get down and

830
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: I'm just letting you know that's family. Wow, that's dope. Man,

831
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 4: that's crazy. When when y'all did.

832
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 8: The first album rocked the house when it went to Jive,

833
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 8: was there any other who else was on?

834
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 6: Yeah?

835
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: So like who the other? I mean, what made y'all

836
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: say I think this is a good fit for us?

837
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: Well, well, first, let me just say any label was

838
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 4: a good fit back then. So it wasn't like we

839
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 4: was picking and choosing. It's like whoever came with, you know,

840
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 4: because you really looked at it like the my closest

841
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 4: path to success is getting this so that everybody can

842
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 4: hear it, and everybody wasn't going to hear it on

843
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 4: World Up records. And how did that? How did rock

844
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 4: House did it go? Go? Yeah?

845
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 6: Yeah?

846
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: And you know that words before he's the DJ, I'm

847
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: the rapper like no before okay, just America.

848
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: It's just you know, and that was we got a

849
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: chance to tour and we you know, that's we went

850
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 4: on tour with Houdini and we went on to a

851
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: run DMC and you know that's that's where everything starts,

852
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 4: you know. And and in nineteen eighty six, it was

853
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 4: it was us, it was Kid and Play, it was

854
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 4: Salt and Pepper, it was Man Tronics, it was Kumo

855
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: D Like all of us did a million shows together

856
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: because we all came around and came out around the

857
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: same time under the rush banner or not.

858
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: Well no, it was just like you know, like I said,

859
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't that many hip hop groups.

860
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: So the hip hop groups that came out and popped

861
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 4: and were Jazzy, Jeffery Fresh, Prince, Salt and Pepper.

862
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: You know, Man Tronics, cadn't play. Who am I missing?

863
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 4: Who you know, well Houdini were already out there. Well,

864
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: Eric bing Rockham like we all came out at the

865
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: same time. Chuck d with w guys the Extra Strength Posse. Yeah, yeah,

866
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 4: whenever I was like, damn what I always wanted to know,

867
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 4: like if the roots were out back then, like what category.

868
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 7: Instrumentalists number twelve? I was like, what I got to

869
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 7: do to be the Extra Strength Posse?

870
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 4: Do you acknowledge that you're the first person to use

871
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: funky drummer?

872
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: You know what's funny? Bam Bodis said that to me.

873
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: Oh, Bam Bodis said that to me at the New

874
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 4: Music seminar when I won Bambida because Bambada had heard

875
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 4: The Magnificent and he was like He came.

876
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: Up to me and he was just like you you're

877
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: a bold motherfucker.

878
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 4: And I remember looking at him and he was just like,

879
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 4: because you you let the record go because people were scratched.

880
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: No one ever let it go. And I was just like, Okay,

881
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: I'm you.

882
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 4: Know, I can't tell you the amount of times that

883
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: I have tried how many times I've made pause tape

884
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: just as this.

885
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 2: When I heard this, I was like, what the hell

886
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: is this. I would I would take.

887
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 4: This to funkl Mark, you know, Bob down the market,

888
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: Come on, Bob, rest in peace, Bob. I no one

889
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 4: could tell you who it was, and for like at

890
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: least a year and a half until I discovered in

891
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 4: the Jungle group, like a year and a half later

892
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 4: that I know where it came from.

893
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: How come nobody use that break?

894
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 4: I don't know. Listen, they weren't using breaks then?

895
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: Were? You just said I was the first person to

896
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 2: do it?

897
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: People are the.

898
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 9: First person I ever heard using pizza president. And I'm

899
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 9: not just talking about just the door. You actually use

900
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 9: the rest.

901
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 4: Of this as we go we.

902
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 8: Project Dana Brod project Oh okay, yeah, oh wait, yeah

903
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 8: eighty seven idiot.

904
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you used it in a musical yeah.

905
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 7: Way for more flushed out musical way, where Marley Mom

906
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 7: just used project O as you know, a stab or

907
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 7: that sort of thing.

908
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: So okay, So in doing this record, can you give.

909
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: Us any what was doing those uh post post Freshfest?

910
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 4: I guess they were Deaf Jam tours by then or

911
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 4: whoever's had at the time ll tours or what was that?

912
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 5: Like?

913
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: Oh man, that was that was amazing?

914
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 4: You're it's twenty thousand people, twenty thousand people, and you're

915
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: you know, and you're going, you know, you're, you're it's

916
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 4: twenty thousand people in Albuquerque, New Mexico. So you also,

917
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: like I said, you understand, I'm still thinking, I'm supposed

918
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 4: to be at the gas company. What am I doing

919
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 4: in Albuquerque, New Mexico? We were going to cities. By

920
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: this point, you're still thinking, like when this in a

921
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 4: real job?

922
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: Oh man, I didn't think this ship was going to

923
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: work out until a couple of years ago. I still

924
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: think a couple of years ago.

925
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 4: List So after rocking the house because that went gold,

926
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 4: I mean, did that change financially? Like I mean you no, no,

927
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 4: come on, come on. We talked about the music business.

928
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 4: We ain't never been good. But what I will say is,

929
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 4: you know you're making money doing these shows. You're doing tours,

930
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 4: you know. And it was funny because I went through

931
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: this thing of I remember, you know, Will and I.

932
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 4: I don't even remember exactly how much we were getting paid.

933
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 4: All I know is I was pretty much coming home

934
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 4: with about two thousand dollars every show. So I would

935
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 4: not put it in the bank like I put that

936
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 4: shit in a box underneath my bed and until it

937
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 4: got to the point that I don't have enough box

938
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: underneath my bed with this, and you know, I was

939
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: I was afraid to put it in the bank, like

940
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: you you want me to take it? So I went

941
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: to the bank, I opened up the bank account, probably

942
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: gave them about fifteen thousand dollars. They put it in

943
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 4: the bank, and I would come to the bank every

944
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 4: week and pose it my my my show money. You know,

945
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: you take some out, deposit my show money. And one

946
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 4: time I went because when I wanted to buy my

947
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: first car, I wanted to withdraw, and they said my

948
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 4: signature didn't match.

949
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: So I'm like, wait a minute.

950
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: My signature matches every week when I make a deposit,

951
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 4: but it doesn't match when I make a withdraw. And

952
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 4: I got mad and asked to see the bank manager

953
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 4: and pulled all no, it was what was citizens? It was?

954
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 4: It was no, it was melon meon. I still got

955
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 4: my red debit card when the debit cards first came out.

956
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, you don't. I didn't think this

957
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: was gonna be real, you know. And we we we

958
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: got through the first album, and when we went in

959
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: the studio to do He's the DJ on the Rapper.

960
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 2: We actually did the DJ album because it was a

961
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: double album. We did the DJ album first in Philly

962
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: and then we went to London to do He's the

963
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: DJ on the Rapper. And while we were in London,

964
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: we got a call from Barry at Job saying Dana

965
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: wants to sell the rights to Jazzy Jeff and the

966
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: Fresh Prince completely the job. And I was like, oh,

967
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: ship like because understand, any money that we would have

968
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 2: gotten paid from Jive had to go to Dane at first.

969
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 4: How that happened?

970
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, dude, we were signing the word up.

971
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: Word Up signed the job, so they never signed direct

972
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: the job, would he because.

973
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 4: Listen, I don't know, you know, people getting you know,

974
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 4: he needed something and you know, and it was it

975
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 4: was this weird balance because he wanted to He wanted

976
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: to sell it Monday. Then we get to call Tuesday,

977
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 4: he said no. Then he went back Wednesday, Yeah, I

978
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 4: want to sell it, and then he said no, and

979
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 4: then it was kind of like we want X amount

980
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 4: of dollars and then he came back and he wants more,

981
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 4: and you know, it just kept fluctuating, and I remember

982
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 4: the day that they called and said the deal is done.

983
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 4: You're signed directly to jobs. So we at least, you know,

984
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 4: once again, we think, okay, we this gives us the

985
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 4: best shot. But that that sparked the call to mister

986
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 4: Magic to get the cassette of Live at Union Square

987
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: and say hey, let's put it on the album that

988
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 4: you know.

989
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: That that sparked parents just don't understand, and Nightmare on

990
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: My Street.

991
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, you gotta tell tell the story real quick. The

992
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 9: second album was always intended to be a double no no, no, no, no,

993
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 9: we we.

994
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 4: The whole idea was, Okay, everybody likes Jeffers a DJ,

995
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 4: let's do a DJ.

996
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 9: Album, so it would have been like a side for

997
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 9: him and the side for you. No, it was really

998
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 9: supposed to be like a DJ album.

999
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 4: You know, these are beats and Jeff scratching and all

1000
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 4: the rest of this, and it was just kind of like,

1001
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if the world is ready for this,

1002
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 4: and we did it and it just kind of sat there.

1003
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: So when we went to go into the studio to

1004
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 4: do the the Jeff and Will album, the idea came out,

1005
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: why don't we mix all of this up and make

1006
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 4: it a double album. Oh okay, and so all the

1007
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 4: all the the MC stuff y'all did in London at

1008
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 4: the at the Job studio in London.

1009
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 7: So the album initially the album that is side three

1010
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 7: and side floor side for was the DJ and that

1011
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 7: was completed as is.

1012
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did.

1013
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: We did some extra stuff in London, like we did.

1014
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: We did. He's the D John the rapper in London,

1015
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 4: like a lot of the DJ stuff of me cutting

1016
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 4: and will rapping with just routines that we would do.

1017
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 4: Yeah like that, but that was all, you know, we

1018
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 4: would we would be at the y m c A

1019
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 4: and doing Job rhythm tracks and we'll just say, hey, Jeff,

1020
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 4: you know what do you think about such and section?

1021
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: You would answer is it too late?

1022
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: Is it too late?

1023
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 9: I gotta say, that's one of the strangest songs like

1024
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 9: I've ever heard on the radio. I grew up in

1025
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 9: Indiana and that song was always on the radio. Yeah,

1026
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 9: Raven tracks, house party style. Really yeah, they were just

1027
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 9: paying they would play it on the radio.

1028
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: You know what.

1029
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 7: I gotta admit that I was six seconds old. I'm

1030
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 7: now realizing that, Oh yeah, he's the DJ on the

1031
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 7: rapper is a MC side and the DJ side.

1032
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 9: Like even the sticker on the on the front of

1033
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 9: the album said it was comes with bonus DJ album

1034
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 9: or something like that.

1035
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, damn I or scratch record I think they called it. Yeah.

1036
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: They was trying to work out I'm twenty.

1037
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 4: One seconds you're you're I'm twenty one seconds old. Like

1038
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 4: I'm just realizing that right now.

1039
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 5: Y'all had to live in London, y'all when you recorded.

1040
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: Now, we did it in a month.

1041
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 7: So was Battery Studios not fully developed in New York

1042
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 7: in the Jive building yet?

1043
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 4: No, it was so all fly to London in London.

1044
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 4: Estate was done in London. I see, I see, Okay,

1045
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 4: So making the video obviously wait time out Nightmare on

1046
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 4: My Street, please tell the story of the Fat Boys

1047
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 4: and well listen, we you know it was we did

1048
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 4: the record Nightmare on Myne Street. I used the piano

1049
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 4: line from Nightmare on My Street and this and this,

1050
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 4: the screech and all the rest of that, and it

1051
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: came out and the you know, parents of song stand

1052
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 4: came out and just went crazy and we knew we

1053
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 4: had Nightmare like it was. It was, you know, it

1054
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 4: was funny back then record companies would try to hold

1055
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 4: sit Cold records back, but radio stations were playing Parents

1056
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 4: and Nightmare at the same time, so it was kind

1057
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 4: of like you already know what the second single is

1058
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 4: gonna be. I'm just like, oh my god, it's big

1059
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 4: as Parents is. Nightmare is going to trump this by

1060
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 4: a million. We shot the video and and we went

1061
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 4: on tour. And what I didn't realize, like, we had

1062
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 4: a segment on tour that Charlie Mack would dress up

1063
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 4: when the sweater and he had a Freddie mask and

1064
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 4: Freddie glove and he would come on stage and he

1065
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 4: would kill me and the lights would go black and

1066
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 4: all like we had a whole skit. I didn't realize

1067
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 4: that New Line Cinema sent lawyers to follow us on

1068
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 4: the tour and they watched this, and then all of

1069
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 4: a sudden, we just got a lawsuit that was like

1070
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: New Line Cinema issuing you guys for Nightmare. So our

1071
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 4: lawyer basically went to New Line Cinema because radio. Unfortunately,

1072
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 4: New Line got the Fat Boys to do a Nightmare

1073
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 4: record and they had to promote. So now radio stations

1074
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 4: are doing the Nightmare contest, which record do you like

1075
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 4: the best? So we're blowing the fat boys out and

1076
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 4: they were getting met and it was almost kind of

1077
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 4: like we were trying to express to them that this

1078
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 4: is going to do nothing but help your movie, and

1079
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: just out of principle, they were like, nah, so they

1080
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 4: suit us, and well, I mean, we gave them a

1081
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 4: bunch of money and we had to agree to perform

1082
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 4: in two movies. Listen. So this is funny. We had

1083
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 4: to agree to perform in two movies, but it was

1084
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: up to us to accept or decline. So the first

1085
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 4: movie that they gave us the script for was House Party,

1086
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 4: because if you think about house Party, it's a DJ

1087
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 4: and a rapper. So they made House Party around me

1088
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 4: and Will and we were like, nah, that's weird because

1089
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 4: they they were wrong and just let the song na.

1090
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 4: That's why the whole thing of the video disappearing like

1091
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 4: I had a copy. No, I didn't you know it's back.

1092
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: Oh listen, it's the whole videos up now.

1093
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean, but you have to have done a

1094
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 5: lot with new line since anyway, like, no, we did

1095
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 5: you ever do the too?

1096
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: No listen, like it was I don't even remember as

1097
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: the second movie was, and we just we were just.

1098
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 5: Like no, Will has never done a New Line movie.

1099
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 4: No, because I understand this was before, like we didn't

1100
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 4: look at it like they're offering us a movie role.

1101
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 4: This was kind of like, in fact, yeah, this is

1102
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 4: kind of like, yeah, you know, this is payment payment back,

1103
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 4: so we were just like it would have been for free. No, No,

1104
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 4: they probably would have paid. I'm very sure they would

1105
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 4: have paid a minute. But house Party was get cleaned. Yeah,

1106
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 4: but okay, you're talking about house Party as we know

1107
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 4: it now. Somebody giving you that script in nineteen eighty seven,

1108
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty eight, you might not have thought that. You know,

1109
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 4: this is back when we don't know what to do

1110
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 4: with raps, so we don't even know if we want

1111
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 4: it on television. So let alone you're gonna try to

1112
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 4: put it in a movie. We're kind of like, listen,

1113
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 4: we're not trying to we're making rapping. Yeah rapp.

1114
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: Wait just one second, now, B Street was eighties. This

1115
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: is what they chose. I've heard this songbody once in

1116
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: my life. Sounds like Michael Jackson, right that silp slap

1117
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: face man. Yeah, that just yeah, that wasn't it.

1118
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 4: That wasn't it. New Line y'all fucked up?

1119
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: And then who who Deny came with the next one

1120
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: for the next movie.

1121
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 9: Anyway, I Gotta Swing it that was, and then the

1122
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 9: video was like taking place outside the the Nightmare ol

1123
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 9: Street House or something I missed because I was I

1124
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 9: was on be et every day after school, field knowledge

1125
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 9: every day after school.

1126
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 4: You serious it's called anyway I Gotta swing I'm pretty sure.

1127
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, like the knife.

1128
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 5: That's a Nightmare on Elm Street song Welcome.

1129
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: Back Steve Man. How did for the like the samples?

1130
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 8: Because it wasn't until I got older a lot of

1131
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 8: the I was saying the samples that I was using,

1132
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 8: Like I mean, like Westchester Lady like she like that.

1133
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 4: How you were the first to use jazz samples? Pretty much?

1134
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 9: I'm a I'm I became a great digger because of

1135
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 9: a Touch of Jazz, Like I need to know what

1136
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 9: that Harlem River Drive sample was and and all that

1137
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 9: ship Like those were the first records I bought?

1138
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: Were the records that you used on Touch of Jazz?

1139
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 4: Was it?

1140
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 7: Was there a reason that you didn't go to everyone's

1141
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 7: using games? Well everyone, yeah, using the uh ultimate beats

1142
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 7: and breaks. You could have easily went there and just

1143
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 7: made a mix of that, but instead using records that

1144
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 7: weren't on Ultimate Beats and Breaks.

1145
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 4: Well, you gotta think this is what you also got

1146
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 4: to think about what volume of Ultimate Beats and Breaks

1147
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 4: was Dancing Drummers Beat three? Yes, So I had three

1148
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 4: volumes to choose from, Like this is what I'm saying,

1149
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 4: like this was so early. There were only three volumes

1150
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 4: out oh, Like it was.

1151
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: Like it was we didn't have this.

1152
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 4: Plethora of sampling information that we had. Then this tim

1153
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 4: my brother, you know my brother and the record you know,

1154
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 4: like I grew up with chick career, Herbie Hancock, Myhavish

1155
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 4: New Orchestra, you know, Stanley Clark, George Dude. Then my

1156
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 4: dad was Wes Montgomery, Jimmy Smith, all of us. I'm

1157
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 4: the sponge. So all I decided to do was kind

1158
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 4: of like, yo, let me go and grab some of

1159
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 4: the records that he would play. You know, I know

1160
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 4: those albums front to back, not just for the samples.

1161
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 4: It was just kind of like, you know, shit, at

1162
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 4: ten years old, I can't listen to Whudini.

1163
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: So I you know, I.

1164
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 4: Wasn't the Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder. I was the chick

1165
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 4: corea in return it forever. WoT Yeah, listen, I gotta

1166
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 4: give my brother credit. Like he My brother came in

1167
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 4: and he showed me how to take the record out

1168
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 4: the jacket, put the record on the turntable, don't put

1169
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 4: your fingerprints on it.

1170
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: And he was like, listen, I can if.

1171
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 4: He was like, you can use my.

1172
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: Stereo when I'm at work. My brother worked all day.

1173
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: So I was ten years old, and I would put

1174
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: a cassette in and I would make tapes. Wow, you know,

1175
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: and you know, like I said, I'm making chick corea tapes.

1176
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:58,479
Speaker 2: You know, explain, Explain how you've told me this story

1177
01:03:58,560 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: like years ago.

1178
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 8: And I was just like, what the fuck? Explain how

1179
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 8: you were up for Grammy and yet y'all are broke.

1180
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 8: How does that happen?

1181
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I think everybody in the room know how

1182
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: that happens.

1183
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 4: But you know it was.

1184
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: Is this the year you guys the Grammys?

1185
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 5: No?

1186
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, this was this was another year.

1187
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 2: This was after that.

1188
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 8: So on the rooftop okay, and that was for y'all,

1189
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 8: y'all were nominated for He's the DJ. Right, y'all got nominated?

1190
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. They didn't want to televise it right. You know,

1191
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 4: they were kind of like, nah, we think we should

1192
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 4: give another category to Garth Brooks were like, yo, he

1193
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 4: got nine, like you can give hip hop one, especially

1194
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 4: if hip hop is easily the one, two or three

1195
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 4: top selling genre of music like you. You know, you

1196
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 4: got nine country and Western categories like you. You know,

1197
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 4: but this was at a time that they were very

1198
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 4: much you know, you almost felt like you were on

1199
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 4: this scale of is hip hop gonna be here or

1200
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 4: is it not? Like and there were powers to be

1201
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 4: that kept saying it's not, it's not, and we would

1202
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 4: get mad every time somebody said that, because you know,

1203
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 4: this is this is your dream, like somebody's you know,

1204
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 4: basically trying to squish your dream. So you know, we

1205
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 4: felt like we needed to take that stance, you know,

1206
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 4: for for the for them to kind of understand. But

1207
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 4: you know, you you you have this vision of grandeur.

1208
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 4: You know, I'm signed to this label and this is

1209
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 4: how it's gonna be and you're gonna make this money

1210
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 4: and and you're gonna do this and you know, and

1211
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 4: we sold a bunch of records and you know, we

1212
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 4: we because the second album went, well, uh, he's the right, triple, triple, triple,

1213
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 4: and and and you.

1214
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: Made money, but you're never paying attention.

1215
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 4: Like the one thing that I've realized, especially back then,

1216
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 4: if you know, you're twenty two years old and you

1217
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 4: put out a record, and the record sells, and somebody

1218
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 4: gives you a two hundred thousand dollars check, I don't

1219
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 4: know a person alive that checked it to see if

1220
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 4: it was supposed to be two hundred or it was

1221
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 4: supposed to be nine hundred, Like you don't check it,

1222
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 4: and I you know, looking back at hindsight, they knew that,

1223
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 4: you know, they knew that, just like record companies knew that.

1224
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 4: You know. Listen, You're never gonna take this to an

1225
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 4: entertainment lawyer for him to read your contract. You're gonna

1226
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 4: take it to your cousin who's the plumber, because he's

1227
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 4: the most business savage person in your family. You know.

1228
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 4: Because if I'm trying to get a record deal, nine

1229
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 4: times out of ten, I need money, and you think

1230
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take money and give it to a lawyer, like, no,

1231
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 4: I'm going to keep every dime.

1232
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: I have to be on the safe side.

1233
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 4: But they know that. So it was the same thing

1234
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 4: that you know, you get to the point that you know,

1235
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 4: you learn these terminologies like cross collaterzation. You know that

1236
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 4: you're just kind of like, you don't pay me my

1237
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 4: money before you have to give me the budget for

1238
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 4: the next album, and you say that the budget for

1239
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 4: the next album came from the money you're supposed to

1240
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 4: pay me, And I'm kind of like that shit makes

1241
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 4: no sense.

1242
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 2: Like it was gangster. It was gangster, but it was just.

1243
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 4: Kind of like, you're paying me with my own money,

1244
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 4: you know, like and and you you know, back then

1245
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 4: you couldn't really fight it, you know, you would you

1246
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 4: would say something, and then then you're deemed the troublemaker,

1247
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 4: you know if if you're asking questions that somebody don't

1248
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 4: really want you to ask.

1249
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 2: So, y'all, so this was for the third album, for

1250
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: the end in this corner.

1251
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 4: That well, no, like all of this stuff started to happen,

1252
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 4: you know, it started on the first album and it

1253
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 4: really came you know, it really came on He's the

1254
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 4: DJA and the Rapper and and and then the third album.

1255
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 7: How how different was the post YOMTV rap effect of

1256
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 7: your life? Once the second album comes out and blows

1257
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 7: up because you're saying that, Okay, the second ILM went

1258
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 7: triple platinum.

1259
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 4: But that was very unusual. Come from nineteen eighty eight. Completely,

1260
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 4: that was unheard of. Well, you know what, back then,

1261
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 4: you know, hip hop was solely urban. It was solely urban,

1262
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 4: like most black music that would come out. The whole

1263
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 4: idea is you have the black stations that are playing it,

1264
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 4: and then if it catches on, they would say that

1265
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 4: it's going pop, and that just meant it went over

1266
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 4: to the white station, you know, and that's when the record.

1267
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 4: So what I knew is everybody's idea is we you know,

1268
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 4: you know you got something when it goes pop. Girls

1269
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 4: Ain't Up with Trouble was a black record, Parents Just

1270
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 4: Don't Understand, came out as a black record and turned

1271
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 4: into a pop record, and that's when the whole Jeffrey

1272
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 4: Willer from the Suburbs and all the rest of this

1273
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 4: is happening, which confused the daylights out of me because

1274
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, to me, girls in Nothing but

1275
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 4: Trouble and parents are Don't Understanding the same record. This

1276
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 4: is different subject matter. How did you keep the secret

1277
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 4: sauce sample of that song?

1278
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: So, man, how did you keep it secret. I don't know.

1279
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: Is it still secret? I don't listen. Listen, I would

1280
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:36,839
Speaker 2: not be sitting here if.

1281
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 4: Did you deal with it?

1282
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 5: No?

1283
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 2: I mean listen, I don't. But the song is so like,

1284
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 2: how did they not? I don't know. I have no idea, Man,

1285
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: I have no idea, and I don't believe that.

1286
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't believe that the power is to

1287
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 4: be didn't hear it? I think it was kind of like,

1288
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 4: hey man, that ship is cool and just left?

1289
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 5: What was the time difference between parents? Just don't understand?

1290
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 5: And then because I felt like the TV show came

1291
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,560
Speaker 5: in my I was just I dodn't want to know.

1292
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 5: I want to know that. That's what I want to know.

1293
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 5: Two years between okay and Yeah, it.

1294
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: Was that I bought it in This Corner album and

1295
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: like it just what was going on with y'all? Couarter?

1296
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: I was list wait time out the wait you about

1297
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: the slender in this corner?

1298
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 4: I was about we about to fight?

1299
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1300
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 4: Because I love that? What what was y'all James?

1301
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 2: Everything?

1302
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? Was my.

1303
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 2: Number one to use the bathroom? I was drafted. I

1304
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:47,480
Speaker 2: was drafted. Girly had a mustache. If donut come on, brod,

1305
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 2: I was, I was, I don't know, I was all

1306
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: that glitter can Yeah, I could dig it.

1307
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 4: I feel it though.

1308
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 2: That's my favorite record of yours. Really, it's wow.

1309
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 4: I had a conversation with somebody and they were asking

1310
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 4: me about all of the albums, and what I told

1311
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 4: him is every last one of our albums signifies a

1312
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 4: time period for me. So you know, you got you.

1313
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: You know, Girls Ain't nothing but Trouble. It's new.

1314
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 4: You don't know.

1315
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1316
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 4: I always tell everybody you have your whole life to

1317
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 4: make your first album. You only have from the town

1318
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 4: from your first album and your second album to make

1319
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 4: your second album. And but you know, we we did

1320
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: Girls Ain't Nothing but Trouble for the most part in

1321
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 4: my MoU's basement. We did. He's the DJ, I'm the

1322
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 4: rapper in London. So both of those rucords were done

1323
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 4: in solitude. So I came up with the idea of

1324
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 4: I want to do the third album at Compass Point

1325
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 4: in the Bahamas. Oh wow, Okay, So we went to

1326
01:11:55,200 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 4: the Bahama because you know, I'm I'm I'm just point. Well,

1327
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 4: first of all, it was flying because it was in

1328
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 4: the Bahamas.

1329
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,799
Speaker 2: But I was being comfortable.

1330
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:11,560
Speaker 4: I was really trying to keep the cycle going of

1331
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 4: solitude because we were so big when we went into

1332
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 4: the studio to do that album that we needed to

1333
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 4: go somewhere off the mat.

1334
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 2: What the problem is.

1335
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 4: We were big and had a lot of money, and

1336
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 4: let's talk about the fact that the Bahamas held all

1337
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 4: of our equipment and customs for about ten days.

1338
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: And we're down there on the beach with a casino.

1339
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 4: So it was, you know, we had a house on

1340
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 4: the beach and we were flying people down and you know,

1341
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 4: and it just we were not in the right headspace.

1342
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 4: Like that's what I'm saying, Like I can listen to

1343
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 4: that album and I understand everything that you're saying because

1344
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 4: we were in you know, like it was we you know,

1345
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 4: Will would write for twenty minutes and be like, Yo,

1346
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 4: I'm not feeling I'm about to go to the casino.

1347
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: Wow, you know.

1348
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 4: And we we left after a month with about two

1349
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 4: and a half records done, so of course it was

1350
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 4: kind of like, oh, we're in trouble. So we ended

1351
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 4: up in k Jam in Philly and we finished it.

1352
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 4: But when you think about it, girl, you know, girls

1353
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 4: ain't nothing but trouble is kind of relatable. Parents just

1354
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 4: don't understand is relatable. I think I could beat Mike Tyson.

1355
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,560
Speaker 4: Only a motherfucker that know, Mike Tyson who's making some

1356
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 4: money would say that we didn't even pay attention to it.

1357
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 2: But but the thing is is that.

1358
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 7: It's kind of ship talking, which is relatable because everyone

1359
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 7: says that motherfuck up.

1360
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 4: But you know, in the video and all the rest

1361
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 4: of that now we was on because for me, I guess,

1362
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,919
Speaker 4: like because I was a big Tyson fan and nobody

1363
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 4: thought that, like nobody really thought they could beat like

1364
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 4: you see.

1365
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: Like you watched the video and I don't think you

1366
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 2: believed it either.

1367
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 4: No, we didn't.

1368
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 2: I mean I think that was why the song. I

1369
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 2: think that's why I think the rollout, the.

1370
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 7: Rollout of that song kind of derailed and in this corner,

1371
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 7: which I still feel is a solid right, Yeah.

1372
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 9: I think it's a wow. And I have a story

1373
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 9: about the song. I think I can beat Mike Tyson.

1374
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 9: I believe it's fifth grade music class. Fifth grade music class.

1375
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 9: The assignment is everybody has to lip sync a song

1376
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 9: for the class. So I choose me and my friends

1377
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 9: we chose. I think I can beat Mike Tyson and

1378
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 9: the teachers. You know these films everybody's lip sync routines,

1379
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 9: and we're watching them while we're doing ours, and he's

1380
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 9: got this angry look on his face. And at the

1381
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 9: end of the performance, we're like, why, why are you

1382
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 9: so angry? He's like, oh, I turned the camera off.

1383
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 9: We're like, why you can't bring music with cussing in here?

1384
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 9: Apparently he didn't like when Will says, I'm getting the

1385
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 9: hell out here, and at the end when he's like, goddamn.

1386
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 4: So we got in.

1387
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 2: Trouble for that. Make out so much for.

1388
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 4: PG.

1389
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think, yeah, I have yeah, my I

1390
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 2: think one of my ends. So this was third grade

1391
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 2: for me.

1392
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 8: We had or fourth grade we had to recite like

1393
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 8: a poem or something or some ship, and I think

1394
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 8: I rapped Will's verse from time to chip.

1395
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 4: Like that was.

1396
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: That was my recital. I got a A on it

1397
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 2: on the assignment.

1398
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 7: But I gotta tell you I normally frowned at any

1399
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 7: use of the jam as a break.

1400
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: No more, Ono was the ship?

1401
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 4: That was the ship? Why did you have something against

1402
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 4: the jam and the break? Because them it's like it's

1403
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 4: like the end thing, like anytime I heard it, I

1404
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 4: just think of VH one. So then you don't like

1405
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 4: Ashley's roach clip either. I really don't like that.

1406
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 2: I respect it, but I never liked it and liked

1407
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: it ship boys.

1408
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 4: I never like Ashley's click. It just reminds me of like.

1409
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 2: And even if we're really gonna talk about it, that

1410
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: album was slapping.

1411
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 5: That was.

1412
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 9: While we're on the subjects for a second. I listened

1413
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 9: to that million album a couple of weeks ago, and

1414
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 9: people were only pissed off because the dudes on the

1415
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 9: cover didn't sing. The weren't the ones that were singing

1416
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 9: the record. It was a good record, so the quality

1417
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 9: of the songs didn't matter to nobody. No, And I

1418
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 9: think to the tragedy with them was that they were

1419
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 9: too ahead of their time. It wouldn't it wouldn't.

1420
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 4: Matter at all. That's that's going back to while everybody

1421
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 4: was pissed off about the Brandy mc cover m it

1422
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 4: wasn't up the e listen put out now and we'd

1423
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 4: be good, y'all were.

1424
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 8: I get it, settle, please settle along, you know, debate whatever,

1425
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 8: who summertime.

1426
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 4: Will it will listen. Let me tell you it's funny.

1427
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 4: Hold on, let me tell you what's funny for me

1428
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 4: to be there and to hear all of the like,

1429
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 4: understand that. The first time that I had experienced this

1430
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 4: was when we were on Fresh Prints and I started

1431
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 4: getting the Will stop the show so he can go

1432
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 4: car shopping. And I remember coming in mad, like, Yo,

1433
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 4: that shit never happened?

1434
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 5: How did it just go? Sit?

1435
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 4: And Will just started laughing like, yo, that's what they do,

1436
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 4: like they just blatantly lied. I was you know, I'm

1437
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 4: kind of like, you can't blatantly lie. So understand, Will

1438
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 4: wrote Summertime. Summertime was made for Will. You know what?

1439
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 4: It wasn't any.

1440
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 2: Who told us that the music was made for Rocky Him.

1441
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: I've heard it. I've heard that came from somebody that

1442
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 2: didn't want to pulling fingers someone.

1443
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 4: Was it search that?

1444
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is like, I was there.

1445
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1446
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, so, no, it wasn't. It wasn't for rock Him.

1447
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't written for rock Him.

1448
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 4: That song was birthed from Will being in in l

1449
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 4: A for the first year of the Fresh Prince, and

1450
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 4: of course the season's changed and it's not the same

1451
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 4: out there as it is in Philly. In Philly, first

1452
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 4: day today outside, everybody's outside cars blasting cars clean, the

1453
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 4: driving down the street.

1454
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: South Street is popping right now. That's that's what we

1455
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 2: all had.

1456
01:18:55,960 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 4: Anybody who has a four season climate know when spring comes,

1457
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,839
Speaker 4: everybody comes out. The girl gained a couple of pounds

1458
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 4: and she looks great. She was skinny last year. And

1459
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 4: Will called and was just like, yo, what's up. I

1460
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 4: was like, yo, seventy five degrees out, just got mccar

1461
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 4: claim went to the plaque suns.

1462
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: We just having just Philly dialogue. And that was reminiscent

1463
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 2: to that.

1464
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 4: You know, that was something to him that that's what

1465
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:27,919
Speaker 4: he wrote about, Like the whole versus Summertime is basically

1466
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 4: talking about the season changing from winner to to you know, wait,

1467
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 4: we're forgetting something, we're forgetting in a very important fact,

1468
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 4: if it were not for I think I could beat

1469
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 4: Mike Tyson, Will and Jeff wouldn't have performed that on

1470
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 4: the Arsenial Hall Show then, and Quincy Jones would have

1471
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 4: never seen that performance.

1472
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:58,799
Speaker 2: So technically so that the show that song saved the first.

1473
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 4: Changed it was. It wasn't totally that they paid attention

1474
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 4: to parents because they've been watching. Oh yeah, they paid

1475
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 4: attention to parents, like from from parents on down. They

1476
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 4: were like, he can he can act. They kept except

1477
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 4: for the opening credits, you know, so you know, Quincy

1478
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 4: was just kind of like, that's something for you. I

1479
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 4: remember my mom being upset that they didn't use the

1480
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 4: mom from the video who was on what the pin

1481
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 4: and this was extras? I don't know, you know, yeah,

1482
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 4: Vanessa Williams. Vanessa Williams was the girl in the car

1483
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 4: with Will. That's right, Yeah, that's Vanessa van that's her. Yeah, yeah,

1484
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 4: and you know that's Nola Darling in the video right, yes, yeah?

1485
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 5: Were you always a part of that equation? They figured

1486
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 5: out the show stuff, just asked like he not the

1487
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 5: When did they realized? They was like, this, motherfucker right

1488
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 5: here we missing out.

1489
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: No listen.

1490
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 4: They Will did the pilot and then when they first

1491
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 4: started doing the episodes, they were just like, you know,

1492
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 4: because you and him had chemistry in the video, you

1493
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 4: should come and do the show. And I was like, nah,

1494
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 4: what I meant? First of all, I didn't. That wasn't

1495
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 4: what I wanted to do. It was also weird because

1496
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 4: when when Will went out and did the audition and

1497
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 4: came back and he was like, yo, I got a

1498
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 4: TV show. Understand. I'm thinking this is a dude holding

1499
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 4: the camp corner. I didn't think it was a TV

1500
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 4: show until he showed the pilot and then it was

1501
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 4: people that you've seen on television in the pilot. But

1502
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 4: then you realized that this is professionally done. I'm like,

1503
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 4: oh shit, this is like shit looked like The Cosby Show.

1504
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 4: So when they were like, hey, you know you want

1505
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 4: to do it, I was kind of like no, And

1506
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 4: they were like, listen, we want to put you in

1507
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 4: three episodes and and if you like it, you got

1508
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 4: two more to look forward to. If you don't like it,

1509
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 4: you got only two more to do. I hate to

1510
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 4: tell you this now my favorite cutting and scratching of yours.

1511
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 4: Oh my god. It's from the pilot when you're cutting

1512
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 4: up the uh the classical music, like I can tell you,

1513
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 4: I can tell you authentically cutting it. Yeah, but it

1514
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 4: is just the fact that you're doing set up cups

1515
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 4: for a stab that do.

1516
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: I was like, you saw that, you saw that. I

1517
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 2: was I had to being.

1518
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 4: Nothing.

1519
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 8: It was I love like I watched that so many times. Man,

1520
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 8: you talked before me and you've had conversation. You was

1521
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 8: talking about how the difference between music money and TV

1522
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 8: money and how TV takes so much better.

1523
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 4: Care of you. Listen. We you know, it was funny

1524
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 4: because you know, back in the day, you had a

1525
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 4: Nike connect and the Nike was saying, Nike was sending

1526
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 4: you some sneakers. They send you, you know, some Airmax

1527
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 4: or something. And then we get on TV and they

1528
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 4: are bringing boxes and boxes of stuff in, you know,

1529
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,560
Speaker 4: so we was getting music stuff and TV stuff. The

1530
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 4: TV stuff was just ridiculous. They would have you go

1531
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 4: to the warehouse and you would just bring it. They

1532
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 4: would just you know, your car was full of stuff,

1533
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 4: you know, and they just took care of you. And

1534
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 4: what I didn't realize was there was an episode that

1535
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,799
Speaker 4: we did of our senial hall and they would always

1536
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 4: black out the Nike swoons. They would put an X

1537
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,839
Speaker 4: over it. They would always because you know, you couldn't

1538
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 4: sell it. And Arseno asked me something about me still

1539
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 4: living at my mom's house and I was like, listen, man,

1540
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 4: I love my mom. I'm comfortable here. And when he

1541
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 4: said it, I took my feet and I put it

1542
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 4: on the couch and I crossed my feet and that

1543
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 4: Air Jordan logo was there. Yo. I never got laced

1544
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 4: with that much stuff in my life ever, just from

1545
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 4: crossing my feet and that logo up there, because it

1546
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 4: was kind of like they couldn't blur it out. Ye man, listen,

1547
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 4: the boxes just kept coming.

1548
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 5: So outside of the money though, Jeff, when was the

1549
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 5: moment that you knew I kind of liked this shit TV? Yeah,

1550
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 5: the TV show whatever. At some point.

1551
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 4: I didn't you know what was cool? Well, first of all,

1552
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 4: you're doing a TV show and you're used to being

1553
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 4: on stage with twenty five thousand people. It's one hundred

1554
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 4: people there. So it was no, there was not an

1555
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 4: ounce of nerves, nerves at all because it's one hundred people,

1556
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 4: you know, and you don't but because your brain is

1557
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 4: not thinking of how many people are actually going to

1558
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 4: see that. And it was really different because it really

1559
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 4: changed that you're going out process. It wasn't you know,

1560
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 4: I could go to you know, I could go to

1561
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 4: Springfield Mall and and and kind of get away with it.

1562
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 4: You know, you do the TV show and you're going

1563
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,679
Speaker 4: to Springfield Mall and it's sixty year old white women

1564
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 4: calling you jazz and they always somebody, yeah, no, we're

1565
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 4: not doing that. Is TV realized that secretly the Fresh

1566
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 4: Prince of bel Air is responsible for Friends, right.

1567
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 7: Really all right, so you know the you've seen the

1568
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 7: jay Z video for That's right, all right, So basically I.

1569
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 4: Don't want to.

1570
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 6: For it.

1571
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 4: So basically I heard about it, all right.

1572
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: I thought the one that he did for yeah, I

1573
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 2: saw that, so basically, uh, I don't.

1574
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 7: It was Brendon Tartakoff, still president of NBC at the

1575
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 7: time when you guys were doing Fresh Princes. Yeah, okay,

1576
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 7: so uh he had a chance to also get Living Single,

1577
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 7: and he he said one of his regrets was letting

1578
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 7: his his staff or his uh yeah, his staff or

1579
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 7: his uh uh coworkers talk him out of getting Living Single.

1580
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 7: He said, I always love that show, and their thing

1581
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 7: was like, well, we already got a Fresh Prince of

1582
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 7: bel Air, Like we don't need to it's basically the same,

1583
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 7: And so it went to Fox and and his regret

1584
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 7: he was like, yo, I always wanted a show like

1585
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 7: Living Single. So then he told marta coffin and then

1586
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 7: to make me a white living single and thus made friends.

1587
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 4: Wow.

1588
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, but based on the fact that they already had

1589
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 7: the Black the Black Comedy Show on NBC, so we

1590
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 7: don't need a second one.

1591
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 5: So that's crazy. We have to wait ten years for

1592
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 5: a black person on there. Gabrielle Union and I was

1593
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 5: Tyler that you watched Friends.

1594
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 6: I might have.

1595
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: I didn't watch. I didn't watch it. I did not

1596
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 2: have the wait. But y'all watched Sex in the City.

1597
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 2: Though I didn't watch, I watched it watch. I just

1598
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 2: know that jesus Se City had sucking in it, soformatives.

1599
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 5: You know, didn't want people. It was one episode.

1600
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 4: Show.

1601
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 7: So with the with the meteoric rise of the Fresh

1602
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 7: Prince of bel Air and instead of this being a

1603
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 7: side gig to Jazzy Jeff for the Fresh Prince, how

1604
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 7: how are you now figuring out what your life is

1605
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,959
Speaker 7: about to be? As far as oh, I was terrified,

1606
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 7: really well, I mean so that David Spade joke upset you,

1607
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 7: but joke never mind.

1608
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 5: I want to know.

1609
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 7: You remember the Hollywood minute where on Saturday Live they

1610
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 7: let him they'd let him just go wrote like Eddie Murphy. Uh,

1611
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 7: actually Eddie Charles would go back on life because of

1612
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 7: something that. But Charles Murphy came to.

1613
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 4: The Rock with David s Bates ass and David like

1614
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 4: his like actually stayed away from like.

1615
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: Like that's why he won't come back to any of

1616
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 2: the reunion specials to eight.

1617
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 7: He came back finally for the the fortieth celebration. Yeah,

1618
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 7: but he wouldn't do Bill Cosby jokes. But he came

1619
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 7: back at least. But you know, it's like Spade just

1620
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 7: going rogue for three minutes, and I guess the punchline

1621
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 7: was uh no no, no, no no, and Jazz you

1622
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 7: Jeff wants to know, are you going.

1623
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: To eat that? Oh wow, you got that joke instantly?

1624
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 2: Why would you get that joke? I think it's funny?

1625
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 2: So okay, at that.

1626
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 4: Time, you didn't, I mean, did you think that this

1627
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 4: is the end of the career and that we're just

1628
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,560
Speaker 4: what I mean, you know what we You know, you

1629
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 4: got to understand that. Well, when you think about it,

1630
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 4: The Fresh Prince came out when we had summertime out,

1631
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 4: so we were actually on the biggest high we've ever

1632
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 4: been on.

1633
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 5: Show, the same album as Bee.

1634
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, it was that was home but it's

1635
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 4: but you got to understand that it was you're also

1636
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 4: you know, paying attention to the trajectory of other rap people,

1637
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 4: and it's kind of like, okay, we had not gotten

1638
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 4: to the that we had any legacy artists, so it

1639
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 4: was kind of like, okay, I don't know if this

1640
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 4: shit is like three albums, four albums and then we're

1641
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 4: gonna go to something else. You know, understand, it was

1642
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 4: a huge accomplishment to have, you know, go from three

1643
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 4: million records to a million records on and in this

1644
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,480
Speaker 4: corner was deemed a failure and come back with Summertime.

1645
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 4: There's there had never been a rap comeback, so you know,

1646
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 4: to kind of get to the point because like this

1647
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 4: would you have to keep in mind we want to

1648
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 4: we want to Grammy in nineteen eighty nine or eighty eight,

1649
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 4: eighty eight, and we won one in ninety three, Like

1650
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 4: who else won a Grammy in that time span that

1651
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,560
Speaker 4: that was hip hop? So we were supposed to be

1652
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 4: old and done. So Summertime you're looking at it like, okay,

1653
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 4: we're back. But the thing that scared me is this

1654
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 4: is uncharted territory. I can't call it. I don't know

1655
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 4: if listen. And that was that was that was scary

1656
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 4: because you know, you like to be around with girls.

1657
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 4: The number of trouble parents just don't understand. And then

1658
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 4: Young MC came out with Bust to Move was a

1659
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:21,919
Speaker 4: completely left field. Now we got tempo. Now you're dancing

1660
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 4: and ain't nobody was dancing the girls ain't number of trouble.

1661
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 4: So so you started seeing all these shifts and now

1662
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 4: you're trying to pay attention to what the shift is.

1663
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 4: So you know, we got and then the TV show

1664
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 4: came and I'm like, Okay, I'm a reoccurring character. The

1665
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 4: money is great, but this isn't what I'm trying to do.

1666
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 5: So but they're giving you more storyline. Now you're getting.

1667
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 4: Man kill off.

1668
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,520
Speaker 5: Ain't from the Cosby showy.

1669
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 4: Or from the from be.

1670
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 5: Limp Malcolm Jamal Warner for over a decade.

1671
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 2: I like her?

1672
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 4: Wait really that was he was engaged to.

1673
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 2: What's your name?

1674
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 5: Justine?

1675
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the way after they Michelle Thomas.

1676
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:33,719
Speaker 2: That's Michelle Thomas said Williams. Sorry.

1677
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 8: So like, how when y'all got to the to the

1678
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 8: last album on job, the co Red album, how did that?

1679
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 8: I mean because you would think that, Okay, we're on

1680
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 8: the TV show shows still popping like man, listen, So.

1681
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,560
Speaker 4: We got to when we when when we did the

1682
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 4: promo tour for the the album after Home matter of fact,

1683
01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 4: when we did the promo tour for Home Base, you know,

1684
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 4: we you know how you go into different regions, you know,

1685
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 4: the promotion got there and we got cool with a

1686
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,719
Speaker 4: couple of them, and it was wild because I remember

1687
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 4: him saying to Will and I he said, ever since

1688
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 4: and in this corner, Jive has been betting against you.

1689
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:15,719
Speaker 2: Guys.

1690
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 4: He's like, they don't they don't believe in you. He

1691
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 4: was like, you did you have the biggest record of

1692
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 4: your career and they think it's a flute.

1693
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 2: Wow.

1694
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,600
Speaker 4: So they're they're really not, you know, believing in you,

1695
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 4: you know, and so you started to kind of feel

1696
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 4: that that it's kind of like, yeah, it was just

1697
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 4: you know because because you know, around that time was

1698
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 4: when they started messing with new kids on the block.

1699
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 4: You know, now now understand they got straight dedicated pop

1700
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 4: Actstreet and then you know, and then you know, so

1701
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 4: they're making money overhand over fists, you know, and you

1702
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 4: almost start to become this afterthought that the the only

1703
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 4: thing is we had the popularity vote because because of

1704
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 4: the television show.

1705
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 2: But they you know, they were kind of like, nah.

1706
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 4: So when we you know, we got to the last album,

1707
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 4: in my brain, I was kind of like, Okay, what

1708
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 4: other hip hop act do you know that has reached

1709
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 4: the last album? So I'm you know, so now now

1710
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 4: my business brain is going in. It's like, okay, you

1711
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 4: don't cross coladalize every album that we had. When you

1712
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 4: get to the point that you have nothing to cross

1713
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 4: it to, you gotta pay me all that back money.

1714
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 4: So I'm like, oh my god, like, you know, let's

1715
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 4: just keep up, you know, so that we don't have

1716
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 4: a complete failure, but we're gonna end up getting some money.

1717
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 4: So we The funny thing in our deal they had

1718
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 4: an option for greatest hits. Oh wow, So first of all,

1719
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 4: the greatest hits in hip hop deems your career. Yeah,

1720
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 4: you're done. So when we got to the last album,

1721
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 4: they were like, listen, you know, we want you guys

1722
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 4: to do the greatest hits. And we were like, well,

1723
01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 4: we really don't want to do greatest hits because we're

1724
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 4: not done and we think this signifies to end. And

1725
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 4: they were like, well, we really want you to do

1726
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 4: the greatest hits. And it was wild because in the mail.

1727
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 4: A four hundred thousand dollars check came and it was

1728
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 4: for the album, and I was just like, yo, for

1729
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 4: the greatest Hits album. Oh yeah, Like as soon as

1730
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 4: we cast it, then we're liable. And what they didn't

1731
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 4: expect is we sent it back because we knew Liken.

1732
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 4: You know, we got TV show and all the rest

1733
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 4: of this. So we basically sat down, you know, we

1734
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 4: sat down and basically said, listen, you know what, we've

1735
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 4: been on job for ten years.

1736
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 2: You can't really say that for a bunch.

1737
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 4: We had a lot of success, but Will wants to

1738
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 4: go and really get deep into his movies. Jeff really

1739
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 4: wants to go and get deep in his production. Quietly,

1740
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 4: Will and I were looking to sign a really really

1741
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 4: big record deal with somebody else, and you know, they

1742
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 4: were like, hey, no one has ever come to us

1743
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 4: and said this. You know, we're gonna down and we're

1744
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 4: gonna think about it. And we were like okay, And

1745
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 4: two weeks later we got hit with a lawsuit.

1746
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 2: I lost from job.

1747
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh listen. Jobs sued us because they said

1748
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 4: our extra curricular activities are interfering with us making.

1749
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 2: Music, and I'm like, wait a minute, didn't understand.

1750
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 4: I don't think it was Barry, like this goes beyond

1751
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 4: the president and the vice president and you know, but

1752
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,560
Speaker 4: it's you know, it's just it really got to a

1753
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 4: point that I was kind of like, that was the wow.

1754
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 4: So this is my this is my retirement party. And

1755
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 4: I don't get a go watch. I don't get a party,

1756
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 4: I don't get a cake. I get a lawsuit.

1757
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1758
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 4: Ten years, you know, me and Will probably collectively with

1759
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 4: albums and singles, sold ten million records for Jobs and

1760
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 4: we got a lawsuit. Like that's that's how we went out,

1761
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 4: Like and I said this, people don't understand. Will and

1762
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 4: I have zero ownership of any of the records. We

1763
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 4: did nothing. So everybody, oh my god, you know you guys,

1764
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 4: Summertimes is the anthem every time they play that shit.

1765
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 4: We get zero because we had to do that in

1766
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 4: the settlement with Job. Now, what I will say my

1767
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 4: redemption was that gave me my freedom. Everybody kind of

1768
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 4: looks at it like, you know, you and Will kind

1769
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 4: of split up. I could have I could have went

1770
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 4: with Will at to Sony. I couldn't go back into that.

1771
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 4: I just I was I just broke. It made so

1772
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 4: much sense for Will because Will had a movie deal

1773
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 4: at Sony, so the movie can tell me. But what

1774
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 4: I loved was the first record that Will did. Like

1775
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 4: every record that Will has done, I had some level

1776
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 4: of involvement it. First record Will did was the Wild

1777
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 4: Wild West soundtrack and that sold five million copies. The

1778
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 4: next record that Will did was Big Willie Saule twenty

1779
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 4: six million copies. We did the American Music Award and

1780
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 4: we got in the elevator with Barry. It was oh man,

1781
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 4: it was Barry the owner, Clive, it was a couple

1782
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 4: of other people, old job fevers, and we got we

1783
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 4: got in the elevator and the elevator door closed, and

1784
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 4: Barrier's like, hey man, you know, congratulations, you know to

1785
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 4: you guys, you know winning and you know, like, oh,

1786
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 4: thank you. And it got quiet, and I looked over

1787
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 4: at Will and it's kind of listen. I'm pretty sure

1788
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 4: you know, Rieke. You know when Reek is going to

1789
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 4: say or do something, we gotta look. We have got

1790
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 4: a conversation. And I looked and I when I looked

1791
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 4: and I saw Will's jawline bulging. I was like, oh.

1792
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 4: And Will turned around and he said yeah, this is

1793
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 4: really good for someone that you threw in the trash.

1794
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 2: And listen.

1795
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,679
Speaker 4: It was no, we didn't do it. No, it wasn't

1796
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 4: like that in sudden sense, you know, and everybody calmed

1797
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,560
Speaker 4: down and elevated doors opened and listen. I jumped on

1798
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 4: Will's back because that if there was ever a redemption

1799
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 4: to think that you did. You know, you you thought like, okay,

1800
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 4: it's over, it's over and done with, you know, and

1801
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 4: it was kind of like, okay.

1802
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 2: Cool, wow, wow, Wow, we got.

1803
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 4: A little home movie called Men in Black. You took

1804
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 4: residency of the studio four.

1805
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,560
Speaker 7: Well, you always had residency there because when I was

1806
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 7: interning that Rose Records, you always had your studio there.

1807
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 7: So talk about developing the second phase of the Sound

1808
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 7: of Philadelphia, uh with Dre and Videll with CARV.

1809
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 4: I mean it's you know, it was always my passion

1810
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 4: for production, and I basically took all my money and

1811
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 4: bought equipment, you know. So I always had a room,

1812
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 4: you know, I always had a studio and it and

1813
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 4: it was just really the desire to have to have

1814
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 4: or find like minded people that wanted to make records. Understand.

1815
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,839
Speaker 4: I remember when when I when I got the studio

1816
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 4: for and and I put the studio in. I almost

1817
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 4: had a meeting with all of the studio owners in

1818
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 4: Philly because they didn't they thought that I was trying

1819
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,560
Speaker 4: to open up a commercial facility, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

1820
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 4: I'm opening up a production studio, which I knew they

1821
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:50,720
Speaker 4: all thought I was crazy. And I was like, no,

1822
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 4: I'm I'm opening up a studio that's just going to

1823
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 4: be for music production that we do, because I know

1824
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 4: if I don't have this, I'm gonna rent one of

1825
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,759
Speaker 4: your guys. I'm just I'm just with already on equipment,

1826
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 4: so let's do it. And it was just literally, you know,

1827
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 4: you start finding guys. I would. I would go to

1828
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 4: music stores, you know, and you would see somebody in

1829
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:15,599
Speaker 4: the music store playing keys, and hey, what's up man?

1830
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 4: You know, you want to try to do such and such,

1831
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 4: and and it just started like we had no idea

1832
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 4: what we were doing, you know, and you just learned

1833
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 4: by experience. You learn, you know, by cutting stuff that

1834
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 4: wasn't good, doing stuff unorthodox, you know. It was. It

1835
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 4: was a lot of the records that I made, I

1836
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 4: did stuff that you weren't supposed to do. But that's

1837
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 4: how you learned to do with you know, with jazz

1838
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 4: and Jeff and the Fresh Prince. So it was the

1839
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 4: same thing the entire time. We had a touch of jazz.

1840
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 4: No one ever knew. We never had an engineer. It

1841
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 4: was never an engineer. Oh we did like feet out Keith,

1842
01:41:56,479 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 4: you know myself. We never had an engineer. And hear

1843
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 4: me when I say we never had an engineer. Jill

1844
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 4: Flow Atry Music, Oh no, we did all of that.

1845
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,759
Speaker 4: Listen if you look at the back of Jill's album.

1846
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 4: You know who mixed Jill's album. George Glass. You know

1847
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 4: who George Glass is Marsha Brady's imaginary friend.

1848
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 2: I did wonder about that. I just figured there was,

1849
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 2: you know, George. They would not have accepted that I

1850
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:29,639
Speaker 2: mixed that album.

1851
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 4: We weren't there yet. We weren't there yet. First of all,

1852
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,560
Speaker 4: you got a hip hop guy that is responsible for

1853
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 4: this kind of music. Like I was smart enough to know,

1854
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 4: don't put your name on like like, I know people

1855
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 4: who and this is this is sidetrack. I know DJs

1856
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 4: that have mixers out that their name is on the mixer,

1857
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 4: and I'm like this, you know how hip hop is

1858
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it could be the this mix in the world.

1859
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 4: I can't use it if your name is on it. Like,

1860
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 4: I think it's the genius thing that we have people

1861
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 4: that run major music festivals behind the scenes that people

1862
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 4: don't know because they know this can't be the sus

1863
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 4: and such festival or the Sesson Like hip hop. Hip

1864
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 4: hop isn't based like that. So it was the same thing,

1865
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 4: like I'm not gonna fucking listen to anybody singing that

1866
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 4: Jazzy Jeff got something to do with it. Yeah, it's like,

1867
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 4: so you just puffed Addy Jeans John, you just don't

1868
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 4: you just don't say anything. But still.

1869
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 8: So all that, so all that ship, so all those guys,

1870
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 8: because I mean at the time when we first when

1871
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 8: I first really met you, was around that time. It

1872
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 8: was like oh two three when the listening it kind

1873
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 8: of just came out and everybody was telling us like, yo, man,

1874
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 8: Jazzy Jeff, I got to copy your album from Jeff.

1875
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 4: And I was like, he knows who we are, Like

1876
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 4: I didn't think you had no clue who tou we.

1877
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 4: I never stopped scouring for music, and I know Scott

1878
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 4: listening for people. You know, that was the whole thing,

1879
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 4: like it's it was a love before it was a job.

1880
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 4: So you just you know, it's kind of like you

1881
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,799
Speaker 4: know you you it's when you hear something and it resonates,

1882
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 4: you want to pass it on. And that was that

1883
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 4: was another thing like with with with Jill when we

1884
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 4: did we I met Jill twice. My son's mom introduced

1885
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 4: me to Jill, and we saw each other and we

1886
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 4: talked and it was almost kind of like this ain't

1887
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 4: the right time. And I remember riding up the street

1888
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 4: and I rode past footworks when when Barbido and Rich

1889
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 4: had it and Jill was standing outside and she said, Hey,

1890
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 4: what's up? And I said what's up? We started talking Jill.

1891
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 4: I took Jill to the studio and I went through

1892
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 4: a bunch of music and I gave her a track

1893
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 4: and she left. And the next day Jill called and

1894
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,560
Speaker 4: said I wrote something, And I picked Jill up and

1895
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 4: drove and we parked on Penn's landing and Jill sang

1896
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 4: me long walk from beginning to end WHOA And went

1897
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 4: to the studio and cut it and it was just

1898
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 4: kind of like tell V to al Dre listen, you know,

1899
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:18,640
Speaker 4: we're cutting and we just all of Jill's songs. The

1900
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 4: bulk of Jill's first album was done in probably about

1901
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,640
Speaker 4: nine days. Wow that she was just cutting and we

1902
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 4: would do it. What I did that was extremely unorthodox,

1903
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 4: especially at that time. I had a CD burner. I

1904
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 4: burnt those non songs and I gave it to everybody

1905
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 4: I knew that loved music, like because before you kind

1906
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 4: of don't.

1907
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 2: I gave it to everybody.

1908
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 4: But it was crazy because it actually ended up in

1909
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 4: the Sony office that the Sony executives thought it was

1910
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 4: something that they signed.

1911
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 2: Because everybody was playing it in the office. But that's

1912
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 2: how it got.

1913
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 4: It got to Jimmy Jame and Terry Lewis and they

1914
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 4: flew us out there because they wanted to sign it.

1915
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 4: And it's made it made its way to choose, well,

1916
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't choose Michael Jordan. I choose Steve mckeev.

1917
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 4: At the time, it was like, Michael Jordan, let me, okay,

1918
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna tell you half of this because I

1919
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 4: know I know you would understand the other half. I

1920
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 4: chose Hidden Beach because I knew they were going to

1921
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 4: let us do the album with no interference. Because I

1922
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 4: had a very good friend. We had a very good

1923
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 4: friend that I realized did some stuff that he didn't

1924
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 4: get credit for. And that was the deciding factor to

1925
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 4: make me go to Steve. I'm not listening. I'm not

1926
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 4: because I'm I know he would know, and you know,

1927
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 4: but it was it was crazy because it was almost

1928
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 4: like it's almost like you have a really good friend

1929
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 4: that tells you don't mess with this girl, right, and

1930
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 4: and that's why you chose the person that you're with now.

1931
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 5: And it was it was you know, so, wait, where

1932
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 5: was you got me in this equation? I'm just in the.

1933
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 4: Slightly around the corner. Wait, do you remember driving the

1934
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 4: yellow Pathfinder? I remember driving so all right, Remember I

1935
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 4: told you all the heavy D is going to kill me.

1936
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 2: Let me tell I told you all the heavy D

1937
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 2: is going to kill me?

1938
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 4: Story?

1939
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 7: Well, the original one the boys right was a mirror's

1940
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 7: first drive by. I was walking down like late at

1941
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 7: night on Chestnut Street in Philadelphia and this yellow Pathfinder

1942
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 7: drives by me and then stops and then like gray

1943
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 7: poopon style, comes backwards and rolls down the window and

1944
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 7: I was seeking sitting on myself. I was like, uh,

1945
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 7: this is where I die, Someone's gonna kill me in

1946
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 7: a yellow pathfinder.

1947
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 2: And somebody killing you in a yellow pathline and a.

1948
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 7: Banana yellow path find And it was Jazzy Jeff like

1949
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:17,679
Speaker 7: what he's saying, Yo, you're in the roots right from

1950
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 7: Jazzy Jeff. Oh Jeff, I love you man, And then

1951
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 7: he sped off, and that was how I met him.

1952
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 7: But then I started working at Studio four and.

1953
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 5: You know, so then into jail and you got me.

1954
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:37,639
Speaker 5: How did that timeline work?

1955
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:45,639
Speaker 4: I first saw Jill there was a poetry slam fifty

1956
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:50,719
Speaker 4: second in Baltimore, fifty fourth in Baltimore, like Deep West Philly.

1957
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 5: She was doing the sexy poems.

1958
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 4: Yo. That was recently. Yeah, no, I'm telling y'all, Jill

1959
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 4: was always poet poets and even the dudes. She It's

1960
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 4: something about Jill's voice similar to that of when Deanna

1961
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 4: Williams talking. It's like you will do anything, and it

1962
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 4: was just unexpected because everyone else was coming from you know, backstage. Okay,

1963
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 4: and up next we have a.

1964
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 7: Young brother from No no, no, no, no, no, give

1965
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 7: it up for Richmond, and ladies and gentlemen come on,

1966
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 7: do his poetry and leave Jill Scott decided to sit

1967
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 7: in the audience and so we had no clue. He said,

1968
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 7: up next, we got a sister from North Philadelphia, give.

1969
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 2: It up for Jill Scott.

1970
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 7: Lady Joe and no One came on stage and then

1971
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 7: this woman starts singing joonases freaking you.

1972
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:50,919
Speaker 2: A cappella from the audience.

1973
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 4: She just marches right to the stage, and I was like,

1974
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 4: who is this woman? I put two and two together.

1975
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 4: I met Jill during the do You Want More? Era?

1976
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 7: Apparently her ex boyfriend not the old word, her ex boyfriend,

1977
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 7: not ex husband, not ex husband, was cheating on her

1978
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 7: with a girl that lived next door to me on

1979
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:33,719
Speaker 7: South Street. Well, I don't know whatever, but the first

1980
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 7: word she said was I'm gonna cut that motherfucker's dick off.

1981
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:40,679
Speaker 2: So that's how Jill Scott into my mind.

1982
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 4: So then I put two and two together that, oh,

1983
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 4: that's I'm gonna cut that motherfucker's dick.

1984
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:51,560
Speaker 5: Also the Glamorous Life girl. Can y'all just is that

1985
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 5: a rumor?

1986
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 2: I am Cool's Glamorous Life video.

1987
01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1988
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 2: I never heard that heard it wasn't I heard it wasn't.

1989
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 8: Wasn't that you told me one time, Jeff that Jill

1990
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:07,599
Speaker 8: initially when she came out, she didn't really want to sing.

1991
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 2: She really wanted to just do poetry. She was heavy on.

1992
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like Jill did not want background vocals on her songs. Wow,

1993
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 4: you know, so we had to kind of convince her

1994
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 4: a lot of that. Like the funny thing is, I

1995
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 4: remember when we did is Getting in a way. She

1996
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 4: did not want to put background vocals on that, and

1997
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 4: Drey's mom was in the studio and Drey's mom actually

1998
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 4: sang backgrounds with her on that because Drey's mom was like, girl,

1999
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 4: if you don't get your button that booth. So that's

2000
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 4: Jill Andre's mom.

2001
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 5: Man, that was an official first single, right, No, you

2002
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 5: know what's funny.

2003
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 2: The first single was long Walk, Long Walk, you know

2004
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 2: what I said.

2005
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 5: I remember being at the radio station and being like that,

2006
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 5: you don't need to hear get.

2007
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 2: Through everybody off because their first single was a poem.

2008
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that was the Streets. Wasn't ready for that?

2009
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 2: I remember being long Walk.

2010
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 5: It was no, it was the black stations. We need

2011
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 5: to do once was she gonna put the basoline on

2012
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 5: her face? And I remember selling that at the radio station.

2013
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 5: Like but then she gonna put it. Come on, everybody

2014
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:18,839
Speaker 5: want to Philly Sorry? Fighting over soul records, the journeys

2015
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 5: were still fight.

2016
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 4: How did? How did?

2017
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:23,719
Speaker 8: What was the difference between like say, the jail record

2018
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:25,480
Speaker 8: and then the fluordry situation.

2019
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 4: Like success Like when I tell you that, like I said,

2020
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 4: it mirrors. You know, we we did Jill in music

2021
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 4: pretty much simultaneous. So for both of them to come out,

2022
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 4: we were on cloud nine. You know, they were just

2023
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 4: sending people down. It was it was weird because you know,

2024
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 4: they would send people down with instructions like they we

2025
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 4: want a jail record, and it's kind of like, well,

2026
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 4: we can't give you a jail record because we gave

2027
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 4: it to her. We can give you whoever you're sending record.

2028
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 4: And that was really the first time that I understood

2029
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 4: that record companies. Steve mckev said something to me that

2030
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:06,839
Speaker 4: I never forgot. He said, everybody in the music industry

2031
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 4: wants to be second after everybody's everybody wants to be second.

2032
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 4: You reminded me of a story. So the day that

2033
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 4: we shot that Soul Quarium photo for Vibe, the beginning

2034
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 4: of the end, right, So okay, nine am we shot

2035
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:30,720
Speaker 4: we did a shot in the same Vibe magazine with

2036
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 4: Jill the roots in Jill did their thing, right. It

2037
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 4: hit me that Lear Cohen knew that this shoot was

2038
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 4: going to go down and Vibe Magazine oh wow, and

2039
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 4: begged and begged.

2040
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 7: Please let Music inside of this photo you guys are

2041
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 7: doing because he's part at the time.

2042
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 2: Did I know music?

2043
01:53:56,479 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 7: No, I didn't know music. I had no clue. And child,

2044
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,679
Speaker 7: yeah music soul, child, it just sounds Did I know music?

2045
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 4: I didn't know music.

2046
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 2: I believe that.

2047
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:15,720
Speaker 4: Just to to force the will on us, no pun uh.

2048
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 7: They had Music and his people waiting downstairs in a

2049
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 7: car service to see if there was like a change

2050
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 7: of heart, and it was always like like, it's very

2051
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 7: unfortunate that That's how I was reminded, and I totally

2052
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 7: forget about the times where he came to the jam

2053
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 7: sessions and all that stuff, you like deliver pizzas or something, Yeah, exactly.

2054
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 5: And so because there was Balao too, so well yeah.

2055
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 4: It was like it was like literally like who who

2056
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 4: And the Vibe people were like, yeah, can we le

2057
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 4: or Cohen wants to add him in the photo as well?

2058
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:54,160
Speaker 2: Can you shoot me?

2059
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 4: Just like yo, we know each other, like I don't

2060
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 4: know who music soul child. I had no clue who

2061
01:54:59,120 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 4: he was at the times.

2062
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 7: So it it just it started what could have been

2063
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 7: potentially an even worse taste once I did two and

2064
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 7: two and like oh the guy from filling oh he

2065
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 7: used to come. And then it was like cool whatever.

2066
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 7: But at the time I remember that music almost was

2067
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 7: in that photo. Almost in that photo.

2068
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 5: That was the house that Carvon and I even built.

2069
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2070
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, so so break down like the cruise when we

2071
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 8: talk about such a jazz it was Carving, was Dollinger

2072
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 8: and then so it was Pat.

2073
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:44,560
Speaker 4: Shout, you know it was it was it was multiple

2074
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 4: you know, you had keV Brown Odyssey, you had peace,

2075
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 4: you know, peace move of Pat. Pat McClain James introduced

2076
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 4: me to Pat McLain.

2077
01:55:56,960 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 8: Okay, and he because I remember I think you told me,

2078
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 8: or maybe it was keV told me the on the

2079
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 8: on your album Africa Porter Prince.

2080
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a two track. That was everything Pam did.

2081
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 2: Everything he did was a two track. I love that shot.

2082
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 4: Pat was let me choose my words, eccentric. He was

2083
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 4: very eccentric, Like Pat would make the most beautiful song

2084
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 4: you ever heard, and he would say, you know what,

2085
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 4: the universe doesn't want this to come out, and they

2086
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 4: would cut his keyboard off and we would be in

2087
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 4: the room like like but see, you know he was

2088
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 4: also the guy that he would he would he would

2089
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 4: do a record and make some money and you would

2090
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 4: give him like three thousand dollars and Pat would leave

2091
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 4: out the studio. And the reason why ours is laughing

2092
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 4: is because she was there for all of this. That

2093
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 4: Pat would come in and say, God is gonna bless me.

2094
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 4: I just gave a homeless man three thousand dollars. And

2095
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 4: you were kind of like, Pat, you're homeless, Like you're

2096
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 4: a homeless big I gave a homeless man.

2097
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 5: And what's that music? Soul child?

2098
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 2: Because he was homeless to listen.

2099
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 8: So, but what with all thems that were there, like

2100
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 8: where there like Paulie, Baby Black?

2101
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 2: Where where?

2102
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 4: What's going on with those guys? Now?

2103
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 2: No?

2104
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 4: Wow? I mean, you know, Paul Paul. When I started

2105
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 4: going back out on the road, I took Paul. I

2106
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 4: took Paul when The Magnificent came out, because you know,

2107
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 4: I wanted that to be kind of a launching pad

2108
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 4: for Paul. And then you know, Baby Black chef chef,

2109
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 4: you know, just you know what's crazy is when I

2110
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 4: started going out on the road. I started going out

2111
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 4: in like ninety nine two thousand and went overseas. Was

2112
01:57:56,600 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 4: completely blown away at the fact that I'm in this

2113
01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 4: club and it's two thousand people here, and I'm kind

2114
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:06,840
Speaker 4: of like, well, who is performing. I'm used to the

2115
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:10,160
Speaker 4: win Ballroom and it was a strong two fifty in there,

2116
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 4: and you know, when you start doing these and not

2117
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 4: just that, you know, just going through all of the

2118
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 4: issues in the music business. I'm playing for two thousand

2119
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 4: people and at the end of the night, somebody's handing

2120
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 4: me an envelope with four thousand dollars in it, and

2121
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, well, damn, I gotta wait like

2122
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 4: seven months for my four thousand dollars from the record company.

2123
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 4: And you just gave it to me afterwards, and I

2124
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 4: got to play tomorrow night, and the night after that

2125
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 4: and the night after that.

2126
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 2: So it really took that first tour.

2127
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 4: And I came home and you know, and everybody's asking

2128
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 4: when is the check coming, because everybody's waiting for a

2129
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 4: check at the record company, and you know, you got

2130
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:52,160
Speaker 4: to wait until everybody delivered the signs and all the

2131
01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 4: rest of this, and you know, the.

2132
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 2: Agent call was like, Yo, they loved it. They want

2133
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:57,800
Speaker 2: you to come back.

2134
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,120
Speaker 4: I went back, and the second time I lied to

2135
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 4: everybody and was like, I'm coming home a week later.

2136
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:06,680
Speaker 4: So now I'm coming home with about forty thousand dollars

2137
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:08,840
Speaker 4: to do all of my shopping and get all of

2138
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 4: the shit that I want. And no one knows I'm home,

2139
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:15,000
Speaker 4: so the phone's not ringing, nobody's complaining. And then the

2140
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 4: third time when they called, I was like, you know what,

2141
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 4: I'm out. I'm out because I already see you know,

2142
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 4: I see this hamster wheel and I'm like, I can't

2143
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 4: keep running on I can't keep running on this, you know,

2144
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 4: you you like, there was a level of I felt,

2145
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:36,680
Speaker 4: you know, even you know, even with like the Jill situation.

2146
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:40,400
Speaker 4: You know, I felt that we were in a good

2147
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 4: cop bad cop situation that the record company is always

2148
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:45,960
Speaker 4: the good cop, Like I would watch the record company

2149
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:48,520
Speaker 4: buy her gifts and take her on trips and all

2150
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 4: the rest of this, and well.

2151
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 2: It wasn't even the fact that I was.

2152
01:59:53,320 --> 01:59:56,680
Speaker 4: It was really kind of like, you know, I felt

2153
01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 4: like there was a certain point in time that Jill

2154
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 4: was looking like, how come you don't take me on trips?

2155
02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:03,160
Speaker 4: And I'm sitting like, because I'm waiting for the motherfucking

2156
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:05,600
Speaker 4: money that the dude that took you on this trip

2157
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 4: to send me, you know, not understanding the record company regime.

2158
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 2: That is kind of like you're the good guy and

2159
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:12,280
Speaker 2: I'm the bad guy.

2160
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 5: So you know, it was you became Dana in a way,

2161
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:18,480
Speaker 5: not Dana the person, but I just mean, it's interesting,

2162
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 5: how yeah.

2163
02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:22,640
Speaker 4: And I was like, nah, no, I'm not doing that,

2164
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:25,360
Speaker 4: so I tapped out. I was like, I don't I

2165
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 4: don't want to do that. I realized that, and and

2166
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 4: and also my second tour was a tour in Asia,

2167
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:39,400
Speaker 4: and I went to Bangkok and why are you laughing?

2168
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 4: It's not what you think, So listen. I went to

2169
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:47,560
Speaker 4: Bangkok and there's a mall in Bangkok that my man

2170
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 4: took me to, and everything in the mall was illegal everything.

2171
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 4: And you could go into this store and you could

2172
02:00:56,600 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 4: get DVDs, which you know, DVDs are big MP three's,

2173
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 4: which are small, and they were selling DVD MP three's.

2174
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 4: They were selling the Beatles Anthology, everything the Beatles ever

2175
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:16,560
Speaker 4: made for twelve dollars and I remember you would go

2176
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:20,120
Speaker 4: in and you would look in the book and you

2177
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:22,120
Speaker 4: give them the number. You know, the Beatles were one

2178
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:25,200
Speaker 4: hundred and such and such and they had jazz guitars.

2179
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 4: So I was like, okay, I sample this and get this,

2180
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:30,480
Speaker 4: and you know, I'm giving this guy like thirty six

2181
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:32,640
Speaker 4: dollars and he gave me all of these DVDs and

2182
02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:34,400
Speaker 4: all of this music. And I remember walking in the

2183
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:37,880
Speaker 4: middle of the mall and I said, Yo, it's over.

2184
02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:42,120
Speaker 4: It's oh because this hadn't hit the States yet, and

2185
02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 4: I was like, it's over. I just bought the Beatles'

2186
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 4: anthology for twelve dollars. How much is my shit worth? Like,

2187
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:52,560
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm out. So I tapped out because

2188
02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:55,440
Speaker 4: of something I saw before it came here.

2189
02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:59,120
Speaker 2: I saw it come in and you know, and how did.

2190
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 5: Your soldiers feel about that though? Cause did you give him?

2191
02:02:01,800 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 5: How does that work?

2192
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:04,440
Speaker 2: Well, I ain't get nobody don't know this. Listen.

2193
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:05,440
Speaker 4: Listen.

2194
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 2: First, let me tell you something.

2195
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:11,000
Speaker 4: If you tell everybody in the hood you moving, oh,

2196
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:13,720
Speaker 4: you ain't gonna have no furniture, They're gonna steal all

2197
02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:16,879
Speaker 4: your shit. So trust me, I had a whole covert

2198
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 4: thing I had a guy that took all of my

2199
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:22,200
Speaker 4: equipment and put it in storage. He came down and

2200
02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:25,560
Speaker 4: scouted out the studio, and you know, it was like,

2201
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 4: listen out, this is what I'm gonna take. I don't

2202
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 4: care about this. And you know, I knew the studio hours.

2203
02:02:32,600 --> 02:02:35,120
Speaker 4: I knew everybody staying until about four thirty five o'clock

2204
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:37,480
Speaker 4: in the morning. So we came in at six o'clock

2205
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 4: and they cleaned the entire studio out and by the

2206
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 4: time everybody was going, oh man, they came and it

2207
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 4: was it was they opened that door and that shit

2208
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:51,000
Speaker 4: just swung open with that wild, wild West breeze and

2209
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:55,880
Speaker 4: something week But you know what, but like at the

2210
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 4: exact same time that I closed the studio, I actually

2211
02:02:58,360 --> 02:02:59,120
Speaker 4: moved out of Philly.

2212
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, oh yeah.

2213
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:07,760
Speaker 4: Interesting. So you know what's crazy, Everybody listen, this is

2214
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:10,600
Speaker 4: the funny thing. The only person that I kept was

2215
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 4: I Rise, So I Rise knew all this COVID shit.

2216
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 4: She knew what I was.

2217
02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 2: Listen, you know, she knew.

2218
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 4: And it was and it was crazy because everybody thought,

2219
02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:24,160
Speaker 4: like this is this is this is this will tell

2220
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 4: you something about the ego I needed. Everybody to think

2221
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 4: I was doing bad. And this was at a time

2222
02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:34,000
Speaker 4: that I just once I discovered that whole DJ thing,

2223
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 4: So I understand. I was in the DJ atmosphere before

2224
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:42,680
Speaker 4: the DJ bubble hit. So I'm sitting here like, yo,

2225
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:49,160
Speaker 4: I ain't never made this much money ever, and no

2226
02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 4: one would expect that. And it was kind of like yo.

2227
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 4: So me closing the studio and moving, it was like, yo,

2228
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 4: what happened to John her? He's not doing too well?

2229
02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 2: And you had to eat that. Like I was cool

2230
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 2: with eating that. I was cool with listen. I remember.

2231
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:06,720
Speaker 2: I remember the first time.

2232
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:10,960
Speaker 4: It might have been about seven eight months after I moved.

2233
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 4: I remember it was a fight coming on and I

2234
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:17,480
Speaker 4: invited James down to my crib for the fights. James

2235
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:22,560
Speaker 4: poison James and I stood in the door because when

2236
02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 4: James pulled up to my house, James sat there and

2237
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:28,560
Speaker 4: I know he was kind of like, I know this

2238
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:32,200
Speaker 4: nigga only here, like get out of here. And I

2239
02:04:32,320 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 4: opened the door and my dog ran out, so he's

2240
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 4: kind of like this nigga got a dog, Like what

2241
02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:38,880
Speaker 4: is this?

2242
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 2: I had the paved ways and the lighting.

2243
02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:47,760
Speaker 4: And I was like hey, and James was like what

2244
02:04:47,960 --> 02:04:50,560
Speaker 4: and then I ended up breaking it down, you know,

2245
02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 4: because you ended up you sold so your old crib

2246
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:56,240
Speaker 4: crib you sold it to his mom.

2247
02:04:56,480 --> 02:05:04,760
Speaker 2: Yes, I did list so wait, I'm literally wait. I

2248
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:07,840
Speaker 2: put it up for sale and the person backed out.

2249
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:12,720
Speaker 4: The person backed out the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, and I

2250
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:15,760
Speaker 4: think I text our mayor because our mayor said something

2251
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 4: to me. He was just kind of like, yo, damn,

2252
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:20,600
Speaker 4: why didn't you tell me you were selling the crib?

2253
02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, man, I didn't know. You know,

2254
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. You know. I wasn't just gonna

2255
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:28,480
Speaker 4: randomly pick up quest Love and be like, hey, I'm

2256
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:31,800
Speaker 4: selling my credit, you know. And it was crazy because

2257
02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:34,960
Speaker 4: I hit him on Thanksgiving and I was like, yo,

2258
02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:38,120
Speaker 4: the sale of the crib fell through, let me know

2259
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:40,120
Speaker 4: if you want it, and he said, I'll call you back,

2260
02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:42,360
Speaker 4: and he called me in ten minutes.

2261
02:05:42,360 --> 02:05:43,160
Speaker 2: It is like we want it.

2262
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:45,040
Speaker 4: Listen. That was it.

2263
02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:50,560
Speaker 8: That was a that was a done disp We just furnished.

2264
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:53,960
Speaker 4: We just read did the entire crib like you still

2265
02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:57,680
Speaker 4: got the deep front. We had to take all that.

2266
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:00,320
Speaker 7: It's a brand new it's a two was at the

2267
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 7: nineteen house now, Miss Jackie.

2268
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:05,240
Speaker 5: Dad that's the first time I met you. You don't

2269
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:07,040
Speaker 5: even know that. I was driving in that apartment with

2270
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:09,400
Speaker 5: Deanna and she saw you as you was coming out.

2271
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:11,760
Speaker 5: We was coming in, and she said, it's Jersey Jeff.

2272
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:18,720
Speaker 7: I said, Jeff, please tell us how you organized all right?

2273
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:24,080
Speaker 7: First of all, yeah, it you moved to Delaware and

2274
02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:30,600
Speaker 7: we were all like why. But then you also like

2275
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:32,960
Speaker 7: lured a lot of people to Delaware.

2276
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:33,560
Speaker 4: I didn't know.

2277
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:37,040
Speaker 5: For a minute, right he was there.

2278
02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:38,640
Speaker 4: I forgot even down there.

2279
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:42,360
Speaker 7: But I meant, like James and Tuba, and like, I

2280
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:49,160
Speaker 7: now see the allure of living in Delaware. However, can

2281
02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:54,480
Speaker 7: you explain what the playlist retreat is? It's it's almost

2282
02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 7: like a secret that no one knows about or really

2283
02:06:59,560 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 7: understand what the magnitude this is.

2284
02:07:02,120 --> 02:07:04,240
Speaker 5: It's salty and jealous, even though they still know they

2285
02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:04,840
Speaker 5: shouldn't be there.

2286
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:08,840
Speaker 4: You are literally like your playlist retreat is.

2287
02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:14,280
Speaker 2: It is the Illuminadi. It's the illuminadi of.

2288
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:20,240
Speaker 4: Producers and musicians. And having gone there and seen.

2289
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:22,960
Speaker 2: It myself, you had the first one. I was at

2290
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:23,640
Speaker 2: the first one.

2291
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:28,840
Speaker 4: One. I came late to the last one and had

2292
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:32,400
Speaker 4: about four tacos, did and didn't realize that all the

2293
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:33,720
Speaker 4: tacos were laced with.

2294
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:38,920
Speaker 2: Scooching.

2295
02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:41,240
Speaker 4: I thought I was going to die. Y'all got math

2296
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:42,800
Speaker 4: photos of me sleep on your couch.

2297
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 8: I was just like, yeah, I think my first time

2298
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:48,800
Speaker 8: it was before it was before you ifically doing the playlist.

2299
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:50,840
Speaker 8: But the first time I came to your crib, me

2300
02:07:50,920 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 8: and pool we did a little brother song and that, honestly,

2301
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:56,080
Speaker 8: man like I never told you dude, that really changed

2302
02:07:56,080 --> 02:07:58,920
Speaker 8: my life. It totally made me rethink what it what

2303
02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:03,000
Speaker 8: success quote unquote look like. Because we got there and

2304
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:05,120
Speaker 8: the first thing he did, Jeff cooked some chicken.

2305
02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 4: I always do that.

2306
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 2: He made some chicken, and then we was like, all right,

2307
02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna you know.

2308
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 4: Kind of salty. We're doing this now here because I

2309
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 4: thought like we just go bro.

2310
02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:17,840
Speaker 5: Was can we do the next one? I'm sure it's

2311
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 5: gonna be a party.

2312
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:20,720
Speaker 2: Three listen, y'all can the tree?

2313
02:08:21,400 --> 02:08:26,160
Speaker 5: Hey, you know you only got five women there at

2314
02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:28,440
Speaker 5: one time, serious women.

2315
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 2: We excluse diversity.

2316
02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 5: I'm I'm making I'm auditing because I was like, is

2317
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:37,400
Speaker 5: this some female music? Make us up? And now the

2318
02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:38,280
Speaker 5: localists be there?

2319
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, but no, it was like you cooked chicken and

2320
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:43,240
Speaker 8: then we went downstairs and you told me how like

2321
02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:47,040
Speaker 8: you got the Mexicans from home depot the studio. And

2322
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:48,640
Speaker 8: then he was like, yo, I'm like all right, so

2323
02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 8: we're going to see He was like, oh, I got

2324
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 8: these rooms and I just remember like sleeping at night.

2325
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:55,480
Speaker 8: And I was like, yo, Jeff got a hip hop

2326
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:58,840
Speaker 8: bed and breakfast, like you really like this is a

2327
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:00,960
Speaker 8: whole nother business. And so like when me and my

2328
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:03,360
Speaker 8: wife we bought our second crib, I was like, yo,

2329
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:06,080
Speaker 8: I want to do that, Like I want to have

2330
02:09:06,120 --> 02:09:08,520
Speaker 8: a place where I got my studio. If we go late,

2331
02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:10,440
Speaker 8: somebody want to crash, it's the room right over here,

2332
02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 8: you can crash.

2333
02:09:11,160 --> 02:09:12,840
Speaker 5: So now when they come to your studio, fante like

2334
02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:14,520
Speaker 5: they come spend the night, like when you said.

2335
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:17,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, like well, when Madison came down, her and her,

2336
02:09:17,480 --> 02:09:19,640
Speaker 8: her and Ned, they stayed in the hotel right right

2337
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:21,840
Speaker 8: around the corner. But you know, while we were in there,

2338
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:23,680
Speaker 8: Ned was like, I'm gonna go lay down.

2339
02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:24,920
Speaker 2: He can go right in the next room.

2340
02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:27,760
Speaker 8: And it just it really just was a big inspiration

2341
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 8: for me to like so to the point where I

2342
02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:32,560
Speaker 8: quote unquote was in a booth not too long ago,

2343
02:09:32,720 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 8: in a session, and that shit felt totally like what

2344
02:09:36,120 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 8: is like that felts antiquated, like because we just did

2345
02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:41,040
Speaker 8: all that stuff right in the room together, you know

2346
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:41,360
Speaker 8: what I mean?

2347
02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you know, it's it's funny.

2348
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:48,840
Speaker 4: I do a lot of work with Red Bull three Style,

2349
02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:54,720
Speaker 4: which is a global DJ competition, and maybe like the

2350
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:57,880
Speaker 4: third or fourth year that we did it, they you know,

2351
02:09:58,360 --> 02:10:01,040
Speaker 4: each night they would have as special guest DJ, so

2352
02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:02,680
Speaker 4: you would se z trip, you see a track, you

2353
02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:05,680
Speaker 4: see crazy, you see all these guys. The third year,

2354
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:08,800
Speaker 4: they decided to bring all of the DJs in and

2355
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:12,040
Speaker 4: keep them there for the entire week. So this is

2356
02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:14,200
Speaker 4: what I realized. This is the first time that I

2357
02:10:14,320 --> 02:10:17,520
Speaker 4: have ever spent a week with one of my peers.

2358
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:21,080
Speaker 4: Like i'd see you at a show, I see you

2359
02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:24,480
Speaker 4: that night. Like when you get to spend a week,

2360
02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:28,000
Speaker 4: you get to have a lot of conversations, you get

2361
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:30,440
Speaker 4: to talk about the good stuff, you get to talk

2362
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:33,920
Speaker 4: about the bad stuff, you start getting personal, you start

2363
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:38,880
Speaker 4: swapping music. And when I realized that, that became my

2364
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:43,520
Speaker 4: motivation and my energy to DJ for the entire year.

2365
02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:46,480
Speaker 4: Like everybody couldn't wait for threestyle because it's like we're

2366
02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:48,280
Speaker 4: gonna get together, We're gonna squat, We're gonna do it.

2367
02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:50,400
Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what, I want to

2368
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:53,440
Speaker 4: have a DJ retreat, Like it really started off as

2369
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:57,080
Speaker 4: a DJ retreat I did. How did you convince these

2370
02:10:57,120 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 4: people to travel from all points to the globe. These

2371
02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:04,960
Speaker 4: aren't people coming from like New York and from l A.

2372
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:11,960
Speaker 4: This is like, yeah, you know, like when when I

2373
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:17,400
Speaker 4: remember when my wife threw me a fiftieth birthday party.

2374
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:21,120
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, Laiah and I was there. It was

2375
02:11:21,160 --> 02:11:22,640
Speaker 4: supposed to be there, but you show me.

2376
02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:27,520
Speaker 8: You so.

2377
02:11:29,680 --> 02:11:34,360
Speaker 4: But it was funny because the the level of preparation

2378
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:39,440
Speaker 4: that was put into that birthday part. Like understand they

2379
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:43,480
Speaker 4: I did a show for the NBA for their London

2380
02:11:43,600 --> 02:11:48,160
Speaker 4: game that I was accidentally put on the late flight.

2381
02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:50,080
Speaker 2: Like everything about this ship.

2382
02:11:50,120 --> 02:11:52,839
Speaker 4: I was mad, Like I'm getting mad right now because

2383
02:11:53,640 --> 02:11:56,520
Speaker 4: you know, I considered myself kind of a savvy person

2384
02:11:57,240 --> 02:11:59,880
Speaker 4: and I had no clue. Like my wife. To this day,

2385
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:03,680
Speaker 4: I still think I knew. I had no clue that

2386
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:06,680
Speaker 4: they sent me on a show out of the country

2387
02:12:07,240 --> 02:12:09,520
Speaker 4: and put me on the second flight because all of

2388
02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 4: my friends from overseas were on the first flight. Wow,

2389
02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:17,400
Speaker 4: Oh they mapped it, so I, you know, we came back,

2390
02:12:17,480 --> 02:12:19,800
Speaker 4: I landed, wife picked me up in the airport. You know,

2391
02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:21,760
Speaker 4: it's kind of weird cause she picked me up. She's like, hey,

2392
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, you know, I know you're gonna have cause

2393
02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 4: she asked me what I wanted. I was like, I

2394
02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:27,360
Speaker 4: want to get together some of my friends and let's

2395
02:12:27,400 --> 02:12:30,000
Speaker 4: do a man dinner. And she's like, I know you're

2396
02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:31,800
Speaker 4: gonna do your man dinner, so I want to celebrate

2397
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:33,320
Speaker 4: your birthday with you today. Okay, cool.

2398
02:12:33,800 --> 02:12:35,160
Speaker 2: So we drive.

2399
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:39,080
Speaker 4: The whole crew leaves. We drive to a hotel and

2400
02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:42,760
Speaker 4: take a shower, change my clothes, she got my suit,

2401
02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:44,880
Speaker 4: she got everything. I'm kind of like, okay, this is cool.

2402
02:12:45,200 --> 02:12:47,200
Speaker 4: And we get in the car and she starts driving

2403
02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:50,000
Speaker 4: and we get on ninety five. So I was like, okay,

2404
02:12:50,000 --> 02:12:51,960
Speaker 4: I guess we're not going to dinner in Philly. So

2405
02:12:52,120 --> 02:12:54,240
Speaker 4: we driving and getting in a good conversation. We get

2406
02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:58,760
Speaker 4: off at my exit, so I'm like, okay, maybe we're

2407
02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:01,920
Speaker 4: going somewhere in Delaware, and she wants to kind of

2408
02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:05,120
Speaker 4: check up on the kids. So it wasn't until we

2409
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:08,160
Speaker 4: got to the edge of the driveway that she stopped

2410
02:13:08,640 --> 02:13:12,600
Speaker 4: and she said Happy birthday, babe. And I said thank you,

2411
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:14,600
Speaker 4: and she said close your eyes and I was like

2412
02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:17,720
Speaker 4: what and she said close your eyes and I.

2413
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:21,000
Speaker 2: Was like, oh fuck, you got me and I closed

2414
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:24,000
Speaker 2: my eyes. We drove down the driveway so I can feel.

2415
02:13:24,120 --> 02:13:26,680
Speaker 4: Instead of going to the back, she goes around the

2416
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:30,880
Speaker 4: circle and she said, okay, you can open your eyes.

2417
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:33,080
Speaker 4: And when I opened my eyes, it was two black

2418
02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:38,440
Speaker 4: dudes with parking attendant jackets and heat lamps.

2419
02:13:39,320 --> 02:13:42,720
Speaker 2: And I was like what the old man, man man?

2420
02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:48,320
Speaker 4: And it was so thought out and elaborate the way

2421
02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:52,080
Speaker 4: that my brain works that instead of saying, oh my god,

2422
02:13:52,160 --> 02:13:54,560
Speaker 4: this is great, I was like, we can pull this

2423
02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:59,120
Speaker 4: shit together. So the next day and the president's Serato

2424
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:03,000
Speaker 4: was there. So the next day I was like, listen,

2425
02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:05,000
Speaker 4: I want to do a DJ retreat and such and such,

2426
02:14:05,080 --> 02:14:07,240
Speaker 4: and the president of the Serata was like, hey, you know,

2427
02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:09,440
Speaker 4: we'll be one of the sponsors. And we pulled out

2428
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:12,400
Speaker 4: a yellow pad and we start writing the idea down.

2429
02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:17,400
Speaker 4: During that time, I was, you know, same thing me

2430
02:14:17,840 --> 02:14:21,280
Speaker 4: knowing about you guys. I would always collect music and

2431
02:14:21,760 --> 02:14:26,040
Speaker 4: I got linked into stro I got linked in the

2432
02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:28,520
Speaker 4: tall black guy got linked in the fourteen K t

2433
02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:31,560
Speaker 4: and it was one of those things that I got

2434
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:35,600
Speaker 4: it and I started using Twitter because when I would know,

2435
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:38,320
Speaker 4: you know, when I knew it was Stro, I just

2436
02:14:38,440 --> 02:14:40,520
Speaker 4: went to his Twitter page and just like, hey man,

2437
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:43,160
Speaker 4: it's jazz Jeff, Yo, got some of your music, big fan.

2438
02:14:43,560 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 4: He hits you back, Oh my god, and then you

2439
02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:48,000
Speaker 4: end up getting a folder of music from him. So

2440
02:14:48,160 --> 02:14:50,920
Speaker 4: now I show up and I'm playing all this shit

2441
02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:53,840
Speaker 4: and everybody is like, Yo, what the fuck is that?

2442
02:14:54,040 --> 02:14:55,040
Speaker 5: What the fuck is you know?

2443
02:14:55,920 --> 02:14:59,000
Speaker 4: And you kind of get known for playing stuff that's

2444
02:14:59,120 --> 02:15:03,920
Speaker 4: really dope that no one knows. So and picking the

2445
02:15:04,040 --> 02:15:07,000
Speaker 4: DJs for the retreat, I was kind of like, well,

2446
02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:09,160
Speaker 4: why don't I invite them? What the fuck gods too?

2447
02:15:10,480 --> 02:15:14,800
Speaker 4: You know, like, because now what we can do Questlove DJs,

2448
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:18,120
Speaker 4: Stro makes music. Wouldn't it be great if Stro made

2449
02:15:18,160 --> 02:15:20,080
Speaker 4: the music, give it straight to Questlove and chrest Love

2450
02:15:20,200 --> 02:15:23,440
Speaker 4: is the music messenger. And and that's how it started.

2451
02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:30,520
Speaker 4: Listen listen, you know. But it was it was really

2452
02:15:30,600 --> 02:15:33,400
Speaker 4: to kind of get people together and kind of collaborate.

2453
02:15:33,880 --> 02:15:34,040
Speaker 2: You know.

2454
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:38,040
Speaker 4: I started feeling some kind of way is as much

2455
02:15:38,200 --> 02:15:43,360
Speaker 4: as I love my role as a producer, I started

2456
02:15:43,400 --> 02:15:49,160
Speaker 4: getting mad because it became extremely selfish. Nobody like, everybody

2457
02:15:49,200 --> 02:15:52,640
Speaker 4: got laptop, everybody's making their own beats. You know, the

2458
02:15:52,720 --> 02:15:54,400
Speaker 4: reason why I touched the Jazz was special, and the

2459
02:15:54,440 --> 02:15:56,840
Speaker 4: reason why the Roots Studio was special is because it

2460
02:15:56,960 --> 02:15:59,320
Speaker 4: was a hub where everybody kind of came and did

2461
02:15:59,480 --> 02:16:03,120
Speaker 4: music out. Everybody's hub is their computer and you can

2462
02:16:03,200 --> 02:16:06,520
Speaker 4: hear it in the music. There's no collaboration, and it

2463
02:16:06,640 --> 02:16:08,360
Speaker 4: was kind of like, no, no, no, no, we gotta

2464
02:16:08,840 --> 02:16:11,680
Speaker 4: let's figure out a way to get it back. Also

2465
02:16:12,120 --> 02:16:16,040
Speaker 4: with the biggest thing for me was I get mad

2466
02:16:16,160 --> 02:16:20,200
Speaker 4: that a lot of the equipment manufacturers make equipment without

2467
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:23,120
Speaker 4: ever consulting the people who use it. Man, listen, and

2468
02:16:23,240 --> 02:16:24,920
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, and then you get mad because

2469
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:26,800
Speaker 4: you make some shit, and then I get it and

2470
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:28,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, I don't like this shit, and

2471
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:30,320
Speaker 4: then you mad. I was like, well, maybe you should

2472
02:16:30,320 --> 02:16:33,160
Speaker 4: have talked about before you did it. So it was

2473
02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:35,920
Speaker 4: kind of like, I want to create. I want to

2474
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:38,520
Speaker 4: I just want an open dialogue. I want to invite

2475
02:16:38,520 --> 02:16:42,600
Speaker 4: the manufacturers that you can tell us, make everybody sign

2476
02:16:42,640 --> 02:16:45,240
Speaker 4: an NDA, tell us the new shit that you got,

2477
02:16:45,560 --> 02:16:47,600
Speaker 4: and let us tell you if you should even do it.

2478
02:16:48,680 --> 02:16:50,040
Speaker 4: You know, No, that's not a good idea. I have

2479
02:16:50,080 --> 02:16:53,480
Speaker 4: you talked someone out of doing something that they thought

2480
02:16:53,720 --> 02:16:56,880
Speaker 4: was needed on the marketplace? Or wait, well we didn't.

2481
02:16:57,120 --> 02:17:01,199
Speaker 4: How do you remember that prod you with needleless turned

2482
02:17:01,240 --> 02:17:07,080
Speaker 4: to you the guy like I would think that you

2483
02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:09,080
Speaker 4: would at least want to hang on to.

2484
02:17:09,879 --> 02:17:18,920
Speaker 2: No, you know, I am a purist and I play

2485
02:17:19,040 --> 02:17:19,720
Speaker 2: for purists.

2486
02:17:21,560 --> 02:17:25,400
Speaker 4: What what happens is you get on this stage and

2487
02:17:25,520 --> 02:17:29,840
Speaker 4: it's me and one other guy using turntables.

2488
02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:31,840
Speaker 2: So now they don't care.

2489
02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:34,920
Speaker 4: They don't even put the cinder blocks under the table

2490
02:17:35,080 --> 02:17:38,279
Speaker 4: now they you know, And they got subs on the stage,

2491
02:17:38,520 --> 02:17:42,760
Speaker 4: and I'm listening to the dude before me sound amazing,

2492
02:17:43,080 --> 02:17:46,080
Speaker 4: and I'm telling the guy take all the base out.

2493
02:17:46,800 --> 02:17:49,680
Speaker 4: So now now I don't sound as good as he does,

2494
02:17:49,959 --> 02:17:52,240
Speaker 4: you know. So it starts to get to a point

2495
02:17:53,160 --> 02:17:56,840
Speaker 4: that you know, Okay, So I'm I'm the I'm the

2496
02:17:56,959 --> 02:18:00,440
Speaker 4: last Mohican. And it's not even that I switched. I

2497
02:18:00,640 --> 02:18:05,160
Speaker 4: still chose something that enables me to do everything that

2498
02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:05,440
Speaker 4: I do.

2499
02:18:05,720 --> 02:18:10,480
Speaker 7: So right now you're using needle arm I'm sorry, armless

2500
02:18:10,600 --> 02:18:12,920
Speaker 7: turntables right now do you feel?

2501
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:13,200
Speaker 5: Now?

2502
02:18:13,440 --> 02:18:17,880
Speaker 2: See? Oh you're on some next oh yeah, wait, so

2503
02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:19,480
Speaker 2: are you in the visa right now?

2504
02:18:19,640 --> 02:18:24,440
Speaker 4: DJing? And you give me this interview? But what I

2505
02:18:24,520 --> 02:18:27,680
Speaker 4: will say, like, I leave Wednesday for a month long tour.

2506
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:33,240
Speaker 4: My first show is Friday. Just check Instagram Saturday.

2507
02:18:34,600 --> 02:18:35,280
Speaker 2: Okay, are you?

2508
02:18:35,879 --> 02:18:40,640
Speaker 4: I can't imagine what's more mind blowing than DJing without

2509
02:18:40,720 --> 02:18:41,279
Speaker 4: a needle?

2510
02:18:41,440 --> 02:18:45,000
Speaker 2: Check Instagram Friday. He's gonna be DJing with his mind now.

2511
02:18:49,280 --> 02:18:50,960
Speaker 5: But I'm wrong? What I'm wrong when I say you

2512
02:18:51,000 --> 02:18:53,160
Speaker 5: did introduce to ratto to the at least to this market,

2513
02:18:53,200 --> 02:18:55,920
Speaker 5: because I feel like I remember when DJ's was like piss.

2514
02:18:57,600 --> 02:18:59,680
Speaker 2: Have a career if it wasn't, I was one of

2515
02:18:59,720 --> 02:19:04,680
Speaker 2: the early Serado guys. Yeah, I remember the first CDJ

2516
02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:05,640
Speaker 2: Jeff got me on.

2517
02:19:08,560 --> 02:19:10,440
Speaker 9: Jeff was how I found out about Final Scratch, which

2518
02:19:10,520 --> 02:19:14,400
Speaker 9: was predated to Soerado. Yeah, so well, actually, no, Ritchie

2519
02:19:14,440 --> 02:19:16,280
Speaker 9: Harden was how I found out about Final Scratching. Then

2520
02:19:16,320 --> 02:19:17,880
Speaker 9: I found out you used it and that kind of

2521
02:19:17,920 --> 02:19:20,400
Speaker 9: made it official. So are they with scratching now?

2522
02:19:20,560 --> 02:19:20,840
Speaker 4: Have they?

2523
02:19:21,760 --> 02:19:21,800
Speaker 5: Do?

2524
02:19:21,920 --> 02:19:22,280
Speaker 4: They have it?

2525
02:19:22,480 --> 02:19:26,040
Speaker 2: So you can pretty much scratch streams now? Yeah you

2526
02:19:26,080 --> 02:19:29,760
Speaker 2: can do that. Yeah, you just made uh what do

2527
02:19:29,800 --> 02:19:31,039
Speaker 2: you call title?

2528
02:19:31,200 --> 02:19:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? Titles?

2529
02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:34,959
Speaker 2: Have you tried that yet.

2530
02:19:35,080 --> 02:19:40,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. The only issue with that, which is smart because

2531
02:19:40,400 --> 02:19:42,200
Speaker 4: of course, you know, my brain is always trying to

2532
02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:47,440
Speaker 4: go into finding the workaround. You have to have internet.

2533
02:19:47,600 --> 02:19:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I don't like it.

2534
02:19:49,160 --> 02:19:51,160
Speaker 4: You have to have good internet. You have to have

2535
02:19:51,360 --> 02:19:57,480
Speaker 4: internet because because because I downloaded something, I downloaded something

2536
02:19:58,160 --> 02:20:00,480
Speaker 4: and it worked perfect, and then I cut my internet

2537
02:20:00,560 --> 02:20:02,120
Speaker 4: off and when I went to go load the track,

2538
02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:04,320
Speaker 4: and it was like, you need to sign on the

2539
02:20:04,400 --> 02:20:07,480
Speaker 4: internet for this, because think about it. You can record

2540
02:20:07,560 --> 02:20:10,960
Speaker 4: in Serrado, so you could basically stream that song and

2541
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:17,400
Speaker 4: record it and not just that even if you have internet.

2542
02:20:18,360 --> 02:20:21,800
Speaker 4: See uh huh there. But this is the crazy thing

2543
02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:26,000
Speaker 4: when you push when you push record, it tells you

2544
02:20:26,680 --> 02:20:30,959
Speaker 4: that it's a song that you're playing that can't be recorded,

2545
02:20:30,959 --> 02:20:32,000
Speaker 4: and it stops the recording.

2546
02:20:33,120 --> 02:20:36,560
Speaker 2: So they found workarounds. So I was like, I'm cool,

2547
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:37,960
Speaker 2: I'll just get the record. Do you think that, I

2548
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:40,240
Speaker 2: would say, yeah, So do you think that'll replace the

2549
02:20:40,400 --> 02:20:40,800
Speaker 2: MP three?

2550
02:20:40,879 --> 02:20:41,320
Speaker 4: Do you think that?

2551
02:20:41,800 --> 02:20:42,840
Speaker 6: No? No?

2552
02:20:43,320 --> 02:20:48,320
Speaker 4: No, I mean listen, let me. You got to keep

2553
02:20:48,320 --> 02:20:52,040
Speaker 4: in mind that vinyl sales are at an all time high.

2554
02:20:53,800 --> 02:20:55,640
Speaker 4: But you know, is that because they're just charging like

2555
02:20:55,720 --> 02:20:59,680
Speaker 4: forty bucks for a single. Yes, well, now you know,

2556
02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:03,960
Speaker 4: it's just it's a new generation that, you know, when

2557
02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:05,680
Speaker 4: you really sit and think about it, there's a new

2558
02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:09,120
Speaker 4: generation that missed what vinyl gave you. Vinyl gave you

2559
02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:11,520
Speaker 4: a cover, Vinyl gave you credits, Vinyl gave you something

2560
02:21:11,560 --> 02:21:13,800
Speaker 4: to look at that not only could you listen, and

2561
02:21:13,879 --> 02:21:16,920
Speaker 4: you could touch it. So you know, there's a reason.

2562
02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:20,440
Speaker 4: You know, everybody who's who's tried to press vinyl in

2563
02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:25,000
Speaker 4: the past four or five years has seen a extreme

2564
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:29,680
Speaker 4: significant time of getting your vinyl because of urban outfitters.

2565
02:21:30,040 --> 02:21:35,959
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know the records, you know. But yeah,

2566
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:38,280
Speaker 4: I'm I'm about to I'm about to solve that problem.

2567
02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:42,000
Speaker 9: I've kind of stopped buying records and I've started buying

2568
02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:45,720
Speaker 9: CDs again, really really, and I'll tell you why, because

2569
02:21:46,400 --> 02:21:49,000
Speaker 9: I mean, I have I have accounts with multiple streaming services,

2570
02:21:49,240 --> 02:21:54,240
Speaker 9: and it only takes you know when to be like, yeah,

2571
02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:56,400
Speaker 9: it's it's like, take get rid of my favorite song

2572
02:21:56,520 --> 02:21:58,880
Speaker 9: off the stream service, and it's no longer there, so

2573
02:21:59,160 --> 02:22:00,600
Speaker 9: fuck it. I might as well just have the CD

2574
02:22:00,720 --> 02:22:02,879
Speaker 9: and my arsenal so I can rip that motherfucker into

2575
02:22:02,959 --> 02:22:04,320
Speaker 9: my iPhone whenever the fuck.

2576
02:22:04,160 --> 02:22:06,920
Speaker 2: I want to and taget how I want it.

2577
02:22:07,240 --> 02:22:09,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, now I'm with you. I still got all my CDs.

2578
02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:12,280
Speaker 8: I still haven't got rid of them, because you just

2579
02:22:12,400 --> 02:22:14,760
Speaker 8: never know, never like they just like I went on

2580
02:22:14,840 --> 02:22:17,160
Speaker 8: Spotify Monday and ThunderCats whole ship was going.

2581
02:22:17,280 --> 02:22:18,119
Speaker 4: It was like, what the fuck?

2582
02:22:19,000 --> 02:22:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's back now, but it was just gone.

2583
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:26,440
Speaker 4: I was like, I mean, I mean it's it's it's

2584
02:22:27,160 --> 02:22:29,920
Speaker 4: I supplement with my own personal streaming server. Now, all right,

2585
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Speaker 4: so you won't reveal let us know, but you know

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02:22:37,320 --> 02:22:40,760
Speaker 4: what it is. I think I want you to see it. Okay,

2587
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:43,520
Speaker 4: don't don't want you don't because because I because I

2588
02:22:43,600 --> 02:22:48,560
Speaker 4: could have. I got it and I've done it in

2589
02:22:48,680 --> 02:22:50,280
Speaker 4: the house, and it was just kind of like, you know,

2590
02:22:50,520 --> 02:22:53,640
Speaker 4: you had that desire to just shoot it and just

2591
02:22:53,760 --> 02:22:55,960
Speaker 4: post it, and I was like, no, I want to

2592
02:22:56,000 --> 02:22:58,160
Speaker 4: be in front of a thousand people and do this

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02:22:58,240 --> 02:23:01,600
Speaker 4: ship and get that reaction and then I'll post it.

2594
02:23:02,200 --> 02:23:04,840
Speaker 4: Because once I posted, you know, it was kind of

2595
02:23:04,879 --> 02:23:07,120
Speaker 4: like when I used the Needless turntable and I was

2596
02:23:07,240 --> 02:23:09,480
Speaker 4: picking it up and you know, people freaked out.

2597
02:23:09,959 --> 02:23:13,680
Speaker 2: So another freaking tell us about the upcoming uh plate.

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02:23:13,760 --> 02:23:18,560
Speaker 8: Well, the play this project, the first one God, and

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02:23:19,280 --> 02:23:22,200
Speaker 8: that was in a week a week in a week,

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02:23:22,680 --> 02:23:25,040
Speaker 8: which I know I've done that before and I'll never

2601
02:23:25,120 --> 02:23:25,720
Speaker 8: do that again.

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02:23:25,840 --> 02:23:29,760
Speaker 4: Well, you know what it is, the trying to record

2603
02:23:29,840 --> 02:23:33,400
Speaker 4: it and release it in a week is hard. Recording

2604
02:23:33,440 --> 02:23:36,440
Speaker 4: it in a week piece of kate pec k and

2605
02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:39,360
Speaker 4: especially when you kind of get a routine and a

2606
02:23:39,480 --> 02:23:41,720
Speaker 4: method down like we we got.

2607
02:23:41,920 --> 02:23:43,840
Speaker 2: We got the method we you know we got.

2608
02:23:45,280 --> 02:23:46,119
Speaker 5: Don't ever stop.

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02:23:47,520 --> 02:23:49,040
Speaker 2: Part of releasing it now, because I mean all you

2610
02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:50,880
Speaker 2: got to do is just upload it. Well, no, you

2611
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:52,840
Speaker 2: know what it was is we had to mix it.

2612
02:23:53,480 --> 02:23:55,800
Speaker 4: We had to mix it, and so it's kind of

2613
02:23:55,840 --> 02:23:59,600
Speaker 4: like we recorded and it was basically we with the

2614
02:23:59,640 --> 02:24:03,040
Speaker 4: first when we finished, Glenn cut his last Folk for

2615
02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:05,920
Speaker 4: about six pm Friday, and we needed to be done

2616
02:24:06,080 --> 02:24:10,440
Speaker 4: by midnight on Sunday. So vd Al and I basically

2617
02:24:10,520 --> 02:24:13,920
Speaker 4: stayed up for seventy two straight hours and not only

2618
02:24:14,040 --> 02:24:16,200
Speaker 4: mixed it, but there was a guy sitting in the

2619
02:24:16,280 --> 02:24:18,680
Speaker 4: mastering lab that as we mixed it, we had to

2620
02:24:18,760 --> 02:24:20,480
Speaker 4: send it to him and then he had to send

2621
02:24:20,560 --> 02:24:22,640
Speaker 4: it back and we had to prove it. So it

2622
02:24:22,800 --> 02:24:24,560
Speaker 4: was kind of like when we got there, I was

2623
02:24:24,640 --> 02:24:27,800
Speaker 4: like we ain't never doing this again. We ain't Listen.

2624
02:24:27,879 --> 02:24:29,560
Speaker 4: I'm in the bed at nine o'clock if I ain't

2625
02:24:29,600 --> 02:24:31,760
Speaker 4: doing the show, Yes you are.

2626
02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm happy with that. Listen. I get to see the

2627
02:24:35,080 --> 02:24:36,440
Speaker 2: sun set and rise.

2628
02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:40,440
Speaker 5: That's how you stay looking twelve listen, Hello, listen.

2629
02:24:40,520 --> 02:24:42,879
Speaker 2: I can't do that, so I can do with Mamuna.

2630
02:24:47,520 --> 02:24:48,959
Speaker 5: Is that already on the services?

2631
02:24:49,520 --> 02:24:49,560
Speaker 6: No?

2632
02:24:49,959 --> 02:24:52,840
Speaker 4: No, well no, will it be in June. It'll be.

2633
02:24:53,560 --> 02:24:56,879
Speaker 4: It'll be released in June. Okay, so it'll be released

2634
02:24:56,920 --> 02:25:03,280
Speaker 4: in June. But let me just say this for anybody

2635
02:25:04,160 --> 02:25:13,160
Speaker 4: that has been looking yep for anything. And I don't

2636
02:25:13,200 --> 02:25:18,320
Speaker 4: even like making comparisons ago. Yeah.

2637
02:25:18,440 --> 02:25:21,240
Speaker 2: Oh, listen, when I tell you.

2638
02:25:22,920 --> 02:25:27,200
Speaker 4: You have never in your human life heard someone sing

2639
02:25:27,920 --> 02:25:32,280
Speaker 4: and rap like her, It's always been there, it's all

2640
02:25:32,600 --> 02:25:36,920
Speaker 4: but yo, when I tell you when you hear them, yeah,

2641
02:25:38,480 --> 02:25:39,120
Speaker 4: like she went there.

2642
02:25:39,280 --> 02:25:40,600
Speaker 2: Oh man, she went.

2643
02:25:40,520 --> 02:25:48,000
Speaker 4: There, she went there. Yes, she went there. It's time. Yeah, time, brother, Jeff,

2644
02:25:49,280 --> 02:25:54,720
Speaker 4: thank you, Mom. We finally closed a chapter. Or no,

2645
02:25:54,920 --> 02:25:56,960
Speaker 4: we got to close it. We have to close it.

2646
02:25:57,400 --> 02:25:58,560
Speaker 4: At the retreat this year.

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02:25:58,480 --> 02:25:59,760
Speaker 5: I was about to say, you got we got that

2648
02:25:59,840 --> 02:26:00,320
Speaker 5: on tape.

2649
02:26:00,400 --> 02:26:03,920
Speaker 2: Listen, Well, this is this is the fifth year this

2650
02:26:04,000 --> 02:26:04,680
Speaker 2: is the fifth year.

2651
02:26:04,800 --> 02:26:08,000
Speaker 4: I never in a million years that we would get

2652
02:26:08,120 --> 02:26:12,880
Speaker 4: to year five because you have no idea what it

2653
02:26:13,040 --> 02:26:17,800
Speaker 4: takes to throw something like this, Like it is emotionally,

2654
02:26:18,360 --> 02:26:22,960
Speaker 4: physically and mentally draining, but it is worth all of it,

2655
02:26:23,280 --> 02:26:23,879
Speaker 4: you know, Like.

2656
02:26:25,480 --> 02:26:28,959
Speaker 2: Stro wouldn't be on in the roots if it wasn't

2657
02:26:29,000 --> 02:26:30,520
Speaker 2: for the retreat, you know.

2658
02:26:31,680 --> 02:26:35,000
Speaker 4: Indeed, you know we we we never posted it, but

2659
02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:38,200
Speaker 4: we put up almost like a chart of people and

2660
02:26:38,280 --> 02:26:40,760
Speaker 4: the connections that they made and records that they made,

2661
02:26:41,080 --> 02:26:42,680
Speaker 4: and it's absolutely ridiculous.

2662
02:26:42,760 --> 02:26:46,480
Speaker 8: One of my records, the particular old of me and

2663
02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:51,600
Speaker 8: Errol waiting for your record stroll and Paris and Rich.

2664
02:26:51,800 --> 02:26:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one that was a retreat record.

2665
02:26:54,000 --> 02:26:55,600
Speaker 5: And this is June, right because I'm about to start

2666
02:26:55,640 --> 02:27:00,039
Speaker 5: looking at August. It's in August. August, let the record show.

2667
02:27:02,320 --> 02:27:06,720
Speaker 2: August. I mean, I'm like, should I say this out when?

2668
02:27:06,879 --> 02:27:12,040
Speaker 4: When it is? Because it's early August, because you just

2669
02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:17,480
Speaker 4: got to understand, it's just you know, August Man. Shout

2670
02:27:17,520 --> 02:27:21,200
Speaker 4: out to Monta montez Is at the retreat every year.

2671
02:27:21,440 --> 02:27:24,920
Speaker 4: So first World Fight Club anyway, Jeff, we thank you

2672
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:26,680
Speaker 4: very much. Shout out to Corey Towns like I get

2673
02:27:26,720 --> 02:27:30,720
Speaker 4: that shot, my dude, I text so disrespectful.

2674
02:27:33,160 --> 02:27:35,600
Speaker 2: I text her so that we me and Corey like slander,

2675
02:27:35,680 --> 02:27:36,280
Speaker 2: all kind of ship.

2676
02:27:36,440 --> 02:27:37,240
Speaker 4: It's so great.

2677
02:27:38,680 --> 02:27:39,959
Speaker 5: Too, because she brought us jail.

2678
02:27:40,360 --> 02:27:41,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go there.

2679
02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:45,960
Speaker 7: You go all right on behalf of the Bills and

2680
02:27:46,120 --> 02:27:52,200
Speaker 7: Corey and Sugar Steve and Fan Ticolo and Lady like

2681
02:27:53,120 --> 02:27:53,720
Speaker 7: Jazzy Jeff.

2682
02:27:53,720 --> 02:27:54,920
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Yes, sir.

2683
02:27:55,080 --> 02:28:02,320
Speaker 7: Another great episode Supreme, only on Mandor Kick it Will.

2684
02:28:02,959 --> 02:28:05,160
Speaker 5: I was in a club one Friday.

2685
02:28:05,440 --> 02:28:07,520
Speaker 2: A lovely lady comes walking my way.

2686
02:28:07,800 --> 02:28:09,400
Speaker 4: She woke up and she said hello.

2687
02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:12,640
Speaker 2: I said, Hi, quest Love Supreme. It's a production.

2688
02:28:12,760 --> 02:28:13,760
Speaker 4: It's my Heart Radio.

2689
02:28:14,320 --> 02:28:17,480
Speaker 1: This classic episode was produced by the team at Cador.

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02:28:17,600 --> 02:28:20,640
Speaker 4: Know me, You'll never forgive me, I said, why? Then

2691
02:28:20,720 --> 02:28:21,360
Speaker 4: she bit me.

2692
02:28:22,200 --> 02:28:25,440
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