1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Morning. You're about to enter the arena and join the Battle. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: To Save America with your host, Sean Parnell. 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Good evening, America, Welcome battle crew. This is Battleground Live, 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: the show where we lock horns with the radical left, 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: where we kick ass and take names. We never quit, 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: we never surrender. I'm your host, Sean Parnell, combat Vet, 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling author. And more importantly than both 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: of those things is that I'm a humble servant of America. 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: I love this country. So before we get into Savage Wednesday, 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: we've got Savage Rich Barris on deck, the director of 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: Big Data poll and the host of a great show 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: on Rumble called Inside the Numbers. He's gonna help us 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: break down what happened during the debate last night. And 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: if you follow Savage Rich Barris on Twitter or X again, 15 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell to call it now, 16 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: but if you follow him on Twitter, you could tell 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: that Savage Rich was particularly savage last night on X 18 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: as the debate was going on. So I can't wait 19 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: to hear about that and discuss the debate with Savage Rich, 20 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: and not just the debate breakdown. What I like to 21 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: do for all of you is give you a sense 22 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: of where the American people are right now and what 23 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: this race looks like today moving forward. So we'll react 24 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: to debate. We'll talk about the debate, but I also 25 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: want to do something that's a little bit forward looking 26 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: for you as well, because that's just what I try 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: to do. 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Before I get into all of this, folks 37 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: and the politics of the day, please allow me to 38 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: spend a little bit of time on the twenty third 39 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: anniversary of September eleventh. You know, after twenty three years, 40 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: you think it would be easier for me, and I 41 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: don't know where you all are on this, but I 42 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: know that you likely remember exactly where you were, what 43 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: you were wearing, what you had for breakfast, who you 44 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: had conversations with, what the weather was like, what you 45 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: did that day. We all do. And for me, you know, 46 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: I think I've told many of you all my story 47 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: before about my day, what my day was like on 48 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: September eleventh, But for the we've got lots of new viewers, 49 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you. You know, I was a sophomore 50 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: and a small college in western Pennsylvania called Clarion University. 51 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: I had no idea what I wanted to do with 52 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: my life none. I was an average student, barely a 53 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: best student, probably drank too much, was very listless, didn't 54 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: really have a mission. Felt like I was meandering my 55 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: way through life. And then I remember waking up with 56 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: a hangover on this rundown college couch in this run 57 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: down college apartment, and I remember sitting up in the 58 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: world was spinning and staggering over to the television set 59 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: and turning it on and watching it flicker to life, 60 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: just in time to see an airplane crash into the 61 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: World Trade Center. And in that moment, I was really scared. 62 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: I was shaken to my core. I was afraid I 63 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: was even more than those things that I was angry, 64 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: and looking back on that time, I had just had 65 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: a conversation with my friends college buddies the night before 66 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: about how my generation grew up in the eighties, at 67 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: our childhood during the eighties and teenage years in the nineties, 68 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: we didn't really have anything that tested us as a 69 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: generation of young men. And we all discussed that the 70 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: night before, and then September eleventh happens, and I'm watching 71 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: all of this unfold on our television set, and the 72 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: towers collapsing and people jumping from the windows to their deaths. 73 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: I remember people staggering out of the wreckage, covered from 74 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: head to toe and thick gray soot. Only thing you 75 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: could see your bloodshot eyes and a thousand yards stare. 76 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: But to this day, what I remember the most were 77 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: the first responders, police officers and firefighters or beat cops, 78 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: people who ran to flames and ran into flames instead 79 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: of running away from them. And take it from me, 80 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: you know a lot of the men that I served 81 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: with in the infantry in Afghanistan were people who I mean, 82 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: you grew up on a farm, spent their life outside hunting. 83 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I was an outdoorsy type kid, but I 84 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: couldn't hold a candle to some of the people that 85 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: were in my platoon. They these people were true outdoorsmen. 86 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: I was just a city kid from western Pennsylvania. I 87 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: didn't come from a long line of military generals or 88 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: senior non commissioned officers or military leaders in my family 89 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: at all. I was just a kid from western Pennsylvania 90 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: that was righteously pissed off in the wake of the 91 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: worst terrorist attack in our nation's history. And last night, 92 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: during the debate, and again we'll get into the debate 93 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: here in a little bit with Savage Rich. Last night, 94 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris said that the January sixth protest was worse 95 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: than nine to eleven. And she did that on the 96 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: eve of September eleventh. In any other election cycle, one 97 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: would think that would be disqualifying. As I was on 98 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: the road this morning taking my son to school. And 99 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: as you get older, and as your kids grow, and 100 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: as you encounter challenges and raising your kids, you know, 101 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: being a father, being a mother, and being a grandparent, 102 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure as an experience in and of itself, but 103 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: life teaches you little things along the way. As I 104 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier in the week, kids don't come with a handbook, 105 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, And you look at nine to eleven in 106 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: these terrorist attacks and how it galvanized the generation to 107 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: serve this country. People went to war in Afghanistan first, 108 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: then Iraq. I've mentioned many times on this show exactly 109 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: how I feel about this endless state of war America 110 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: finds ourselves in look back over the last twenty year 111 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan. What do we have 112 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: to show for it? Do I think it was worth it? 113 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely not, having lost thirty of my friends fighting in 114 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: the war in Afghanistan because my battalion we would deploy 115 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: to Afghanistan, come home, deploy to Afghanistan, come home, deployed 116 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: it and so lost a lot of my buddies over there, 117 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: thirty of them. And I talked to Commander Melanie, my wife, 118 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: about this all the time, and I say to her 119 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to it seems surreal even to me 120 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: that I've lost so many people that I love dearly 121 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: in support of a war in Afghanistan where we have 122 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: nothing to show for it now. And don't get me 123 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: wrong for a second, you know how I feel about 124 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: these wars. But don't get me wrong, I'm very proud 125 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: of my so nervis there. I'm very proud of my soldiers, 126 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: my men, my troops who fought for one another, bled 127 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: the ground red in Afghanistan. But I look at September 128 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: eleventh through the eyes of somebody who with the benefit 129 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: of hindsight, with the benefit of somebody who fought and 130 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: bled in those wars, who led men during the war 131 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, and now somebody who's in the political arena, 132 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: having run for office twice and seeing the fallout from 133 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: the terrible policy decisions, foreign policy decisions made by Democrats 134 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: and Republicans that left us with nothing to show for 135 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but tens of thousands 136 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: of Americans wounded, hundreds of thousands of Americans suffering from 137 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: the invisible wounds of war. Come back from war. War 138 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: changes you, and then probably millions of American families who 139 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: are also struggling to deal with what it's like to 140 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: come home from war. And that's why I get personally 141 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: offended when these moron mouth breathing Democrat and Republican politicians 142 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: are so frivolous with America's sons and daughters in that. Hey, well, 143 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: let's just send American troops to Ukraine. Keep the beast there. Oh, 144 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: you know what, let's just send a destroyer group. Let's 145 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: just send a carrier group to the Middle East. It'll 146 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: be fine. Oh, who gives a shit that Russia has 147 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. I'm sure it'll be fine. We're America, after all, America. 148 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: Sons and daughters are our most precious natural resource, and 149 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: our politicians need to start freaking acting like it. And 150 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: the reason why I think nine to eleven. I started 151 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: off the conversation by saying that it hasn't gotten easier 152 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: with time for me. And what I mean by that, 153 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: I was taking my youngest to school. And I've got 154 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: five kids, in case you don't know, I've got a 155 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: senior who is seventeen and driving, I've got a fifteen 156 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: year old. I've got two thirteen year olds and eleven 157 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: year old. And I'm driving the eleven year old to 158 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: school today and we're listening to some morning show and 159 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, at the time that the first plane crashed 160 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: into the World Trade Center, you know, we're on the 161 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: road taking my son to his bus stop, and they 162 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: start playing a compilation a compilation of soundbites that happened 163 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: on the morning of September eleventh, and just news anchors, 164 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: radio personalities just reacting to the horror of what was happening. 165 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: And then they started splicing in. You know, nine one 166 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: one calls firefighters on the radio and you could tell 167 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: that they're out of breath because they're storming up the steps. 168 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: And then the phone calls of family members who were 169 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,239 Speaker 1: either trapped in the towers or trapped on an airplane, 170 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: knowing that they weren't going to make it. And to 171 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: this day, I struggle a lot with hearing that because 172 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: it just pisses me off so much, and knowing the 173 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: foreign policy decisions that followed nine to eleven, it's just 174 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: much more personal for me now because back then it 175 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: was like you know, and I'm sure my parents who 176 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: are listening to this probably felt a lot of the 177 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: same things that I do now. And boy, life comes 178 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: full circle in very strange ways. Yes, I know, mom 179 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: and Dad, but now you think about things differently when 180 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: you have kids. And I shuddered to think what will 181 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: happen when this country experiences and I hope it never happens, 182 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: but another September eleventh type experience where now my children 183 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: will have to be wrapped up in whatever our foreign 184 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: policy response is. But as I'm driving my son to school, 185 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: my son, who is eleven, is just listening to these 186 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: sound bites of the sounds of the day on September 187 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: eleventh in the morning, and he's just got he's just 188 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: wide eyed, he's just completely captured by it. And he 189 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: turns to me with these wide eyes and he's like, Dad, 190 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: you lived through all of this. You saw this happen. 191 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, how I saw it. That's why 192 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: I joined the military. I was inspired by the first 193 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: responders who ran into those flames that day. I thought, like, 194 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: how can I sit here or not and do nothing 195 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: while these people, you know, they're storming up the steps 196 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: of flaming buildings and many of them aren't even coming 197 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: out to hug, you know, hug their loved one. Ever again, 198 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: they didn't come out alive. And he was shocked by that. 199 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: He was just like you could tell he was just 200 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: enthralled by it. And I guess the reason why it's 201 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: difficult for me and it's still so emotionally resonant for me, 202 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: is because the benefit of hindsight looking back and seeing 203 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: that we really have nothing to show for. Yeah, we 204 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: got bin Laden, but what else do we get for? 205 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: Nine to eleven really changed the world in so many 206 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: profound ways. Minute set me on a path that I 207 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: never thought i'd walk right, join the military, go to Afghanistan, 208 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: fight it wounded, come home, broke and broke, and have 209 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: to rebuild my life. It really was an unbelievable time, 210 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: and I just I just want to make sure that 211 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: we give some time it just to like reflect, thought, prayer, 212 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: if that's your thing, whatever. Just think about the lives 213 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: that the American lives that we lost that day, you know, 214 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: say a prayer for them. Think about their families who 215 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: are now living with a permanent void in their life 216 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: because of someone that they lost that day. Think of 217 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: the American America sons and daughters who rose up to 218 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: volunteer to fight, knowing that they were going to go 219 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: to war, yet volunteered anyway. Think about them, Think about 220 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: their families, you know, think about those who never came home. 221 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: Because we can never ever forget September eleventh. We just can't. 222 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: Twenty three years later. 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That's eight four 246 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: four eight two four Safe. I got to get my 247 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: buddy Savage, Rich Barrison, who is the director of Big 248 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: Data Poll and the host of Inside the Numbers. Rich, 249 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: before we get into all of the stuff about the 250 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: debate and the politics of where the race is now, 251 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: I got to ask you, as somebody who also served 252 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: this country, where were you on nine to eleven? Tell 253 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: us your story if you don't mind. 254 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: I was living. 255 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I lived in a neighborhood 256 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: where many people. Yeah, I'm a little bit laggy, and 257 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: I apologize about that, but uh, yeah, I lived in 258 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: a neighborhood where a lot of people. Sean worked on 259 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: either Wall Street or one of my friends, you know, 260 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: his dad was a wall streeter. 261 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: My wife's cousin was a wall streeter. 262 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: Then I had a a friend who his father was 263 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: a union electrician. So we had neighborhoods that were directly 264 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: impacted by it. I was look, I was at work 265 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: when it happened. 266 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: You could see. 267 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: If you were in that part of Jersey. Yeah, it 268 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: was atrocious. You know, most people at first thought it 269 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: was like. 270 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: Some kind of an attack, Like a lot of people 271 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: didn't know who is Sama bin Laanen was. But you 272 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: know that being said, Man, I'm listening to you, and 273 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about you know what we get out of this? Sean, 274 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: all of us who decided, you know what, we're gonna 275 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: go and serve, we're gonna we're gonna go hit back. 276 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: What did we get out of this? 277 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: I would argue, we're in such a dramatically worse position, uh, everywhere, 278 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: everything from financial to freedom wise. I mean for generations 279 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: who are younger than us, they don't know what it's 280 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 3: like to live free. They don't know what it's like 281 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: to get on an airplane without having to go through 282 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: the TSA and deal with all of that crap. America 283 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: was a freer place. They weren't going through your metadata, 284 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: they weren't listening to every phone call that came through 285 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: the fear that they exploited using the Patriot Act. We're 286 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: in a worse place when it comes to trust in 287 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 3: the government. But pre nine to eleven, people trusted the government. 288 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: That's why they gave them that power. Sean, you know, 289 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I can't so much more that I could 290 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: go on and on about. 291 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: And you know people weren't. 292 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: I mean, I would say the government they did all this, 293 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: expanded the Department of Homeland Security, we got TSA, we 294 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: got we got the ramping up of a secret surveillance 295 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: court that abuses its authority. We have agencies that are 296 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: only supposed to operate foreign you know, operating right here 297 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: at home and targeting US citizens. And they spent all 298 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: that money on that shit. But they weren't expecting us 299 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: to come back alive. 300 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: I mean that's true. Let's get real. They did nothing 301 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: for the VA. 302 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: It was in absolute shambles when everybody got home. I 303 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 3: have my best friend here since I moved to North 304 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: Carolina just killed himself a few weeks ago. And I 305 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: know you have friends that you've lost to this. They 306 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: were not at all prepared to deal with us. It's 307 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: the most disgusting, disgraceful betrayal that I could possibly imagine 308 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: happening to a generation of young men and women who decided, 309 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna step. 310 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: Them up, you know, and you know the help with 311 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: George Bush. He's the worst president of our lifetime. 312 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: It's still, you know, rich that betrayal is still happening today. 313 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: Not to get off because I would definitely we got 314 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: to talk about the debate here. But you know, I 315 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: talked to a very close friend of mine who worked 316 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: at a high level on policy, I mean talking cabinet 317 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: level type position under multiple Republican presidents, and he said, 318 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: the Biden administration has completely destroyed the VA. This is 319 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: the guy that broke the broke the story that the 320 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: VA was dolling out payments and given medical care to 321 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: illegal aliens crossing the border. He couldn't believe it, but 322 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: he broke the story. This is also the guy that 323 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: is telling me today on the phone that the Biden 324 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: administration has got a the mission to act and removed 325 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: veteran's choice from their healthcare. And it's also which is 326 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: this is going to sound crazy, but I trust this 327 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: guy with my life. Like the VA also has like 328 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: a death panels essentially where they're making medical decisions for 329 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: veter not going to get medical care because it is 330 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: probably just cheaper if you just pass away. It's just horrible. 331 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: It's just evil, and this type of shouldn't happen in America. 332 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: And you got out. 333 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know about you, but my personal 334 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: because of course, I mean, many of us have something 335 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: we get from the VA. Mine was an open shutcase. 336 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 3: They fought me for fifteen years. I had to you know, 337 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 3: I mean, it was just totally outrageous. 338 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: Only when Trump gets in office, I finally get approved. 339 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: I only have healthcare right now because you know, Obambacare, 340 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: because I'm a veteran. It boxes me out of the marketplace. 341 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: I personally cannot buy private insurance for myself. It's socks, 342 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: and so I'm stuck with the VA. And the only 343 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: reason I have what I have now is because of 344 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: Donald Trump and his community Care. 345 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: The reformations that he put in with the VA that 346 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: gave you community care, which you know, which is if 347 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: you can't get the VA to react here, they got 348 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: to pay for private care. 349 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: The problem is it's worse than an HMO. 350 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: Now. 351 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: It was fine when Trump was in office. Now it's 352 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: worse than an h MODE. If there are doctors that 353 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: you have to see routinely, like monthly, every three months, 354 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: every six months. 355 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: They are constantly making you put in a new request. 356 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: We need another referral, we need another referral, we need 357 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: another reffra. 358 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: It's outrageous. 359 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: It's a primary care doctor. 360 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: I'm paying for these expenses out of my pocket, like 361 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: eight months out of the year and then the rest 362 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: of the year waiting to get it reimbursed. 363 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: Since I moved and I've been here. 364 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: What now, we're going on our fourth year, I haven't 365 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 3: gotten a damn dime, not a dime. I've had to 366 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: pay for prescriptions, doctor visits, you know whatever, man shots. 367 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you name it, out of my own pocket. 368 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: It sucks. 369 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, man, I'm sorry I have to go through that. 370 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it shouldn't happen in America. Okay, Rich Let's 371 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: transition talking to Savage Rich barris Let's transition to debate. 372 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: I'll give you my take. I haven't talked to anybody 373 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: about it on the show yet. Like I think that 374 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: it was not Trump's best night. I also, I also 375 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: do not think and I'll tell you why here in 376 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: a second, I also do not think that Kamala did 377 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: what she needed to do to move the needle in 378 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: this race in a substantive, outcome determinative way. And the 379 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: reason for that is I've got lots of reasons for this. 380 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: But what Trump needed to do was embody change that 381 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: he you know, who cares about the top line numbers 382 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: of polls. And I know you're probably like, well, I do, 383 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: I know, and I know I do too. 384 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: More about insight? 385 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: Did there? I do see what you did there? Well 386 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: played sir, Well, So I'm just talking about the environment. 387 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: You know. My point is has always been the narrative 388 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: for this campaign for Trump is writing itself. And what 389 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: I mean by that is that people are feeling the 390 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: heat where it matters most of them. That's in their 391 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: bank account, that's in their pocketbook. You're they're being crushed 392 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: by inflation. You know, every town is a border town. 393 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: Like what's reflected in polling is like something like the 394 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: top three issues economy, inflation, the immigration somewhere among the 395 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: top three. So in many ways, people feel that now 396 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: in a very personal way. And all Trump has to 397 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: do is just talk about it, you know, talk about 398 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: the people. So he needed to be that agent of change. 399 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: Kamala needed to show the American people last night, how 400 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: she was going to be different from Biden and all 401 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: the fluff. You know, she look man, she talks like 402 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: a politician, right, and and this is this is the thing. 403 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: I think she has never really been anything else. 404 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, she talks like a politician. She's got these like nice, 405 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: polished gre words that really like she talks and it 406 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: sounds nice. But she didn't really say anything, right, And 407 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: she just lied up there quite a bit. But she 408 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: she couldn't answer the question, the very basic question of 409 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: our Americans better off today than they were four years ago. 410 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: She could not answer the question rich and I think 411 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: therefore she wasn't able to prosecute the case of the 412 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: American people of why she's going to be different than 413 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: Biden and also what she did the whole time. Now, Yes, 414 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: Trump took debate in some ways that were probably not helpful. 415 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: One example was the rally size. Melanie and I are 416 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: why the debate. She looks at me, I look at her, 417 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: and we both start laughing because we knew. We knew 418 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: that Trump was debate on the rally side thing. We 419 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: knew it, we knew he was gonna do it, and 420 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: sure enough he did. We were like, no, but he 421 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: took debate anyway. But my point is all she did 422 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: was a she attacked Donald Trump, and she personally insulted him. 423 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: She tried to demean him, she tried to emasculate him. 424 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: And I look, man, my perspective on this is that 425 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: there are not a lot of undecided voters left in 426 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: this country. I mean, I just think, like, if if 427 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: you are an independent watching that debate last night, Trump 428 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: said nothing on that stage that the independence or the 429 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: American people have not heard before. Kamala, on the other hand, 430 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: did a lot of unpleasant things. And man, those facial expressions. Yeah, 431 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, bro, this is she's going like this, Bro, 432 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: She's going like this rich She's like like who does this? 433 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: Like who stands there? And like she's like making these faces. 434 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: But it's telling you, yeah, I'm not it's not gonna 435 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: play well. And I just think that the story of 436 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: the debate, obviously everyone's talking about it are the moderators. 437 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: And yeah, there are people out there saying it's a 438 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: loser's game to complain about the moderators. That feels like 439 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: Trump lost, But like, I don't think that's Like I 440 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: disagree because the American people, they sense it right. More 441 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: people are paying attention now than ever than they ever 442 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: have before. The American people are coming off a situation 443 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: where the media lied to them, clearly lied to them 444 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: about the state of Biden's cognitive yes man, yeah, And 445 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: so they see that the moderators were insanely biased. And 446 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: I think the story of the debate moving forward, Rich 447 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be less about substance of Kamala, less about Trump, 448 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: and more about just how much the moderator sucked. Much 449 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: like the refs watching a play call in a playoff 450 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: game that that gave the game to the other team, 451 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: the story of the game becomes the blown call, not 452 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: the actual game itself. And that's where I'm at here. 453 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: And that's why I think that the that the these 454 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: focus groups Rich, That's why I think that the focus 455 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: groups like are breaking Trump strangely enough. So you, on 456 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: the other hand, so that I talked a lot, and 457 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: normally when I have you on, I don't like to 458 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: do that. I just like to listen to you. 459 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: That was good for once, right, Hey, is that Laura 460 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: over there? 461 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: It is? 462 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 2: I told you he's gonna get on camera. 463 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: Woman, get on camera. She won't do it. 464 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: I've tried. 465 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: Or you had a little glitzy wrist, you had jewelry 466 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: on the wrist and. 467 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 2: Every seaton your little fingernail. 468 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: This is like you know what this is like. This 469 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: is like if you watched Inspector Gadget as a kid, 470 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: like doctor Claw with just a hand. This is not there. 471 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: We always wanted to see doctor Claw's face. Now we 472 00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: can't see Laura's. This is this is ridiculous. You're Wilson. 473 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 4: Is that Wilson, right, Wilson, Yeah, Wilson, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 474 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: of course recently died not I think, right, So Jane 475 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 4: Cyril Jones died the other day. 476 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't come at me with any more downers. All right, 477 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: we need to know, you know, listen, so tell me 478 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: what you thought. Tell me, because listen, listen, let me. 479 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: Let's lay this up for the audience. You were very, 480 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: very very fired up last night during that debate, and 481 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: you and I were texting. You were very upset. 482 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: So, I mean, listen, I don't know why anyone asked 483 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: you your opinion if they're just not going to take 484 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: the damn advice anyway. So, like you know, it really 485 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 3: bothers me when people and donors and campaign people like oh, 486 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: and then it's like they're surprised when what I say 487 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: comes to fruition. 488 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: It just nothing can be more frustrating. 489 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: First of all, let me just preface everything I'm about 490 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 3: to say with what I've been prefacing everything. 491 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: But today he did not need to do this debate. 492 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: He had the momentum. 493 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: Again and he didn't need to do it. He could 494 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: have won the debate without even debating, and simply saying 495 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: something along the lines of I already debated the legitimate 496 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: democratic nominee. I will not lend leed a credibility to 497 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 3: an illegitimate process and lend credibility to a process that 498 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: disenfranchised nearly fifteen million voters who voted for the legitimate 499 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 3: nominee and sitting President Joe Biden. 500 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: She is a usurper and that is it. 501 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: And I am not going to partake in the disruption 502 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: and destruction of our democracy, end of story. I will 503 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: defend the fifteen million people whose votes Democrats wiped their 504 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: asses with and plugged down the toilet, and that would 505 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: have been a home run. I guarantee you even some 506 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: of those people who voted for Minden would have been like, damn, 507 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: he's right, you know, like nobody's brought it up. 508 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: The media sure has not even brought it up. 509 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: It would have told those people in the middle that 510 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: Trump is a bigger man who cares about bigger things 511 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: than debating rally sizes, which is what they wanted him 512 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: to do, and he did. So let's make something very 513 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 3: clear right now. I'm gonna break a lot of Trump 514 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: Trump her hearts out there. Donald Trump is not the 515 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: great debater that you think he is. He's entertaining as hell, 516 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: but he is not a great debater, all right. He 517 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: goes up there, I could get under his skin in 518 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: a second and make him flip his shit, all right. 519 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: He is not a composed great debater, and he they 520 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 3: got him to do exactly what they wanted him to, 521 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: all right. That being said, he certainly was still better 522 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: than like good bide in Trump debate one, the first one. 523 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so glad that you brought that up. 524 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: Certainly better. 525 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: It was not that kind of a train wreck, Sean, 526 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: all right, but he shouldn't have been there to begin with. 527 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: Let's be real. 528 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: Secondly, you are one hundred percent correct that she needed 529 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: a much bigger night than this. 530 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: Let's cut the crap. She's down in her own polling 531 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: Democrats who know you know who really are in the know. 532 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 3: The show is for you foaks at home all right 533 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: in the real behind closed doors, in the real world. 534 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: Democrats began to panic like crazy about a week and 535 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: a half ago because her response bias fuel lead began 536 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: to evaporate quickly. Minnesota went from ten points to five. 537 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: She's down in not only her own poll in Michigan, 538 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: but in the two native posters who media and everyone 539 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: go to every year, Glenn Garrev Group and Epic MRA. 540 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: And by the way, neither Polster ever had Trump up 541 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: in Michigan in either sixteen or twenty. 542 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: So that was the that was the state of the 543 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: race going into this thing. 544 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: So I don't understand why he just didn't lay out 545 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: what I just said and what I said to layout 546 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: and move on. So here we are now fast forward. 547 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 3: I understand you know what you said about the media. 548 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: I just don't like people who lament it after the 549 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: fact and then don't say anything or speak up before 550 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: you make a mistake like Trump's campaign made. All right, 551 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: So like I'm I'm all alone going don't debate her. 552 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: This is buld, This is a trap. 553 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: Don't do it. 554 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: It's David mrr, the head of NBC, the head of 555 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: ABC is personal friends with Kamala Harris. She's married because 556 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: they introduced her husband, I mean her to her husband 557 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: like it's an incestuous relationship. These are totally corrupt people, 558 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: and you are falling for it. It doesn't matter how 559 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: well he may think he did. They were looking for 560 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: a jut what they got last night so they can 561 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: push a BS narrative, which will then they can use 562 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: to exploit the response bias and the polls and put 563 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: out their Harris plus two to five's and everything else 564 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: for the next six weeks, which we're all gonna have 565 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 3: to tolerate now. 566 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: But here's the kicker. With all that being said, I'm 567 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: a little bit surprised because I'm starting to dig into 568 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: the numbers. 569 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: And give it a couple of days, so everything we 570 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 3: really know for sure. You know, you have the Ruders' 571 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: focus group that is a small sample size. Ours really 572 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 3: is not, and we're still working on it, but there aren't. 573 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: If Ruters isn't alone, there have been many other focus 574 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: group from media outlets to personal consultants and they're all 575 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: hearing the same thing. 576 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: It's the headline in the New York Times right now. Yeah, 577 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: belwegh pundits, Yeah. 578 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: Und say Harris one debate, undecided weren't so sure. Let 579 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: me read the routers you have here, some undecided voters 580 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: not convinced by Harris after debat. 581 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: Two to one, and that that's funny because their samples 582 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: so small. But their sample looks like our sample, which 583 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 3: we will show everybody on Friday, and so the numbers 584 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: and our sample is not small, all right. We had 585 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: several hundred people who were undecided from the last poll 586 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: that we conducted, and we asked them, are you going 587 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: to watch the debate? Eighty eight percent about just under said. 588 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: They were going to watch it. I don't believe it 589 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: and didn't believe it. 590 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 3: We'll see if they actually did, all right, But we 591 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: asked them if they did, if they were undecided leaning 592 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 3: and they were going to watch the debate, we said, hey, 593 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 3: can we contact you the day after the debate and 594 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: ask you a few questions. And we're getting these results now, 595 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 3: and by the time of the show this afternoon, I'd 596 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: already see that our focus like whatever you want to 597 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 3: call it post debate focus poll is looking a lot 598 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: like Reuters. 599 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: This is what I want to read. Two things, one 600 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: from mine, one from Reuters. If you don't mind, all right, 601 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: don't find no go go ahead Reuters. 602 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: And I didn't get a permission to release a name, 603 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: but I'll read what's going on, all right. 604 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: But Reuters obviously did. Robert Wheeler forty eight. 605 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: A security firm executive in Nevada, was leaning toward Harris. So, 606 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 3: in other words, in the poll, when they say I'm 607 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: undecided and then you push them and you lean them, like. 608 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: I talk about it in your show all the time. 609 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: If you had to decide who would you vote for 610 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: if the election was today and you had no choice 611 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: and you had to make up your mind, who are 612 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: you going to vote for? This guy? 613 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: When Push came to show, said I'm voting for Harris. 614 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: But now he says, if the election was hel tomorrow, 615 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 3: he's voting for Trump. 616 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: Here's why. 617 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: Quote. 618 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: I felt like the whole debate was Kamala Harris telling 619 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: me why not to vote for Donald Trump instead of 620 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 3: why she's the right handidate. 621 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: Okay, this is we're hearing this everywhere. 622 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: Listen to this Okay, fifty fifty three year old voter 623 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: from California, all right, isn't independent but leans to the left. 624 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: There's Roman, Daddy's on the show. Why does Laura allow 625 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: this child to come barreling in when we. 626 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: Would love to hear Roman's thoughts on the debate. 627 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: You know he's gonna you don't want savage Roman because when. 628 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 3: He's on Nickelodeon, I tell him the deal, bro, all right, 629 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 3: this woman is not somebody to look up to. 630 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 2: All right, and my daughter did the same thing with her. 631 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: I do know if you turned out to be like her, 632 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: Daddy's going to be very disappointed. I want you to 633 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: get where you are in life, where you get in 634 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: life based on the sweaty your brow and the and 635 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: your your own ambition, your hard work, and because you 636 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: earned it and because you kept your character and you 637 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 2: deserve it, not because you're her. And you know, will 638 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: he tate floating around? The funny thing about the funny 639 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: thing about when they go up and say, hey, is 640 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 2: he are you his daughter? 641 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: We played it yesterday. 642 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: He's banging him at that moment, all right, and he's married. 643 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: It's disgusting. Look at the damn contrast but she's willing 644 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: to bang an old fat man. Come on, man, you're 645 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: not gonna make You're not gonna my daughter is not 646 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 2: gonna look up to your ass. No, thank you. All right, 647 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 2: So listen to this fifty three year old California woman, 648 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: all right, and she's says she's an independent, but like 649 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: what she normally, Hey, she normally votes Democrat, although she 650 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: admitted that she has voted for Republicans in the past. 651 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: But get this, squishy rhinos, you know, squishy rhinos. 652 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: She doesn't like Trump and she doesn't like Maga. All right, 653 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: and this is what she said, Actually, I thought Trump 654 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 3: was great. This was the best I've ever seen him 655 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 3: in a debate. And then she goes on a layout 656 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 3: about how she wanted Kamala Harris to convince her to 657 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: vote for her. Convince me that you are not gonna 658 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: be as bad as Joe Biden, who she voted for. 659 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: And now she's saying, I hate to say it, but 660 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 3: if the election. 661 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: Is tomorrow, I have to vote for Donald Trump. 662 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: This is like, I'm like, what the hell is going on? 663 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: You know, like rich a couple things. I do think 664 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: it's the environment, man. I think people like I played 665 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: a clip from a swing voter independent voter from Wisconsin 666 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: who was straight up saying the same thing two days 667 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: ago or yesterday on the show, where he's saying, do 668 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: I think Trump's a good person? Absolutely not. I don't 669 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: like him. I don't like him at all. But life 670 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: was better under Trump. I think this election comes down 671 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: to that. Now. I want to offer a counterpoint and 672 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: maybe perhaps challenge you a little bit by the way. 673 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: I you know, I think it's I don't disagree with 674 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: the perspective of saying, hey, look, I'm standing up for 675 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: these fifteen million people who you just en franchised. This 676 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: process is illegitimate, and I won't give credence to it. 677 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: I actually love that. I love it. That's what he 678 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: should have done. But Trump would this is this is 679 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,479 Speaker 1: what Trump would say. Trump and I'm not speaking for him. 680 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is his philosophy within his campaign. 681 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: He's told his people I would debate anyone, anytime, and 682 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: I know going into it that the media is going 683 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: to be hostile and I don't care. And he would 684 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: say and so this is So, this is where I'm 685 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: at on this. So Trump beat a Bush and a 686 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: Clinton in sixteen, surprise the world. He definitely won in 687 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, but he was so dangerous to the system 688 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: that they cheated him out of it. He's debated, you know, many, many, 689 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: many times, his debate with Joe Biden. Uh, you know, 690 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 1: because your philosophy on that debate was that he should 691 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: not do it right and I agreed with you back then, right, 692 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: And now he goes into the debate and he completely 693 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: ends Biden's career, and that's why they shank him and 694 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: pull them and select Kamala. And if he would if 695 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: we would have, if you maken our advice, that would 696 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: have never happened. 697 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 3: But he'd be in a better political position right now 698 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: if he would have taken our advice. He was crushing 699 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 3: Joe Biden before the debate. John, This is like a misnomer. 700 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: He was kicking Joe Biden's ass. 701 00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: Before the debate. 702 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: Well, because the Maris group had Trump plus one for 703 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 3: the you know, or Biden plus three when everyone else 704 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 3: from Harvard Harris to us to Emerson. I mean at 705 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: this point we got them lead him by three to 706 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: seven points. I mean, it was an Ic'm coming on 707 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 3: your show saying that people don't Republicans don't lead like this. 708 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 3: In national presidential polling, you'd still be facing Biden. He 709 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 3: would still there would have been no way for them 710 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 3: to knife him and get him out of the race. 711 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 3: And the listen, in a normal election context, he should 712 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 3: do better against Harris than he would against Biden, as 713 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 3: all the pre the dropout polling suggested he would, because 714 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: Biden's got the Scranton Joe appeal, and you know where 715 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 3: he's gonna do better than Harris is gonna get killed 716 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: in Lakawana, Lasern like she's gonna get killed there. But 717 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 3: you know, but and Joe Biden would have done better. 718 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is they have at least developed 719 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 3: a way forward where maybe Biden and no path, but 720 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 3: she has a singular path if there bs narrative, propaganda, 721 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 3: nonsense works and this debate allowed them, gave them that 722 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 3: what you know, that narrative to move forward with. And 723 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 3: whether or not these voters are telling us this is 724 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 3: not going to stop them from pushing that narrative and 725 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 3: that stuff does have power, and they walked into this. 726 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 3: I would and I really before I forget I got 727 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 3: to say this, everyone said Hillary Clinton won all. 728 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: The debates as well, all the polls, the pundits all right, 729 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: the truth is and then one of our polling, I 730 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 2: believe it was the debate when he was back up 731 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 2: against the wall post Billy Bush. I believe it was 732 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 2: that pole. I'd have to go back and look. 733 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: But actually we found that like by an eight point 734 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 3: march and Trump won the debate, which was weird, and 735 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 3: all the all the media polls were like fifty five 736 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: thirty five, and I'm like, okay, I got something different. 737 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: But even when we found that the Clinton won the debate, 738 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 2: it didn't like people are telling you who they think 739 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 2: they won, but it doesn't necess sarily mean they're going 740 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: to vote for that person. That's something I need, Like 741 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 2: you know, people. 742 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: Out said, I agree completely. 743 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: Those facial expressions, my friend, we're so bad. 744 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 3: We communicate more with our body and our facial express 745 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 3: through non verbal communication that we do with verbal communication. 746 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 3: Those faces turned off the male undecided voter forever, I'm 747 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 3: telling you forever. 748 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 2: And not coming back. 749 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: That's the largest group of undecided voters right now. And 750 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: I think that's meveraging them men. 751 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 3: And that's and the funny thing is with the women, 752 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 3: she needed to give these women. It's she needed to 753 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 3: meet what we have always called the presidential bar, like 754 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 3: people expect you to, and the debate is a great 755 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 3: way to show people you meet the presidential bar, and 756 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: you can have confidence in me that I could do 757 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: this job. 758 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen, it was Trump. Everyone kind of knew 759 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton. We it's a piece of crap. But she's 760 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 2: confident in government and can do the job. 761 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't. 762 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: I don't have to worry whether or not Hillary's common 763 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: in or not. 764 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: Right, That's what I agree. I couldn't agree more. 765 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 3: Needed to meet a bar and so like he always was, 766 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 3: in a stronger position. People wanted to vote for him, 767 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 3: even though many didn't like him. They wanted to because 768 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 3: they were like what they liked what he was saying, 769 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 3: but they didn't know if he was like fit enough 770 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 3: to do it, confident enough to do it, temperament enough 771 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 3: to do it. 772 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 2: When he would do those debates, especially the third. 773 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 3: One, is he knocked it out of the park and 774 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 3: that was that was it for her and seal their fate. 775 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 2: I'm telling you uh this. 776 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 3: But there's no other word. Like Laura keeps saying, you 777 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 3: got a curb, your language here. You can't keep saying this, 778 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 3: but it's hard for me to convey what I mean 779 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 3: without saying it. Nobody likes a bit, Sean, Nobody likes 780 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 3: a bitch. Men don't like a bitch. Even women don't 781 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 3: like a bitch. 782 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: She was a bitch. 783 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 2: Can we get real for a second. Listen those faces? 784 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 2: Look it matters, you know, like I'm not trying to 785 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,760 Speaker 2: be you're you are the only polster in the business. 786 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: They would ever say. 787 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: Everyone's afraid of saying it. They're like all a bunch 788 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 2: of cowards, like grab your balls and say what everyone 789 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 2: is on everybody's mind. And you know what matters. Nobody 790 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 2: likes that kind. Nobody wants that as their president. Nobody 791 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 2: wants that. Nobody does this. Oh my god. It was like, 792 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: I mean, she's like haunting on the playground, Kamali, You 793 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: daunting somebody in the playground. 794 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 3: And the worst thing about it is if you know, 795 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 3: and a lot of most voters don't you know, and 796 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 3: she better get down on her knees and not that, 797 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 3: Praise God. Other voters don't know because people who know 798 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 3: about her know that that's the place she is when 799 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 3: she's worked. 800 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 2: When people who work for her. Talk to anybody who 801 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 2: worked for Kamala Harris. When she's mocking you, she does 802 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: this stuff. She's trying to taunt you and demean you. 803 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 2: That's who she is. 804 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: And she showed that. 805 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 2: She showed who she. 806 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 3: Is on television last night, and I think I know 807 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 3: what happened. 808 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: They told her, you can't cackle. The cackling laugh is 809 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 2: what she does, you know, no cackle, the no ca 810 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: no cackling, Kamala like because that stuff is not going 811 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 2: well with men, especially men, but it's like nobody really 812 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 2: likes it. 813 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 3: And she does that when she hears something she disagrees 814 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 3: with or she wants to mock some she'll cackle and 815 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 3: dismiss it, you know, be dismissive. I bet you any 816 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 3: amount of money they told her no cackling, and those 817 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 3: faces is what was the product of her not knowing 818 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 3: what to do when she doesn't cackle. 819 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 2: You know, I'm serious, Sean. We all have our little quirks, 820 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 2: you know. 821 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: Listen, tell me about it. I'm like way overdue for 822 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: a break. Oh sorry, I would. I want to talk 823 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: more about the hours flying by. I don't know where 824 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: the time's going. Stay right, there be back in a 825 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: little bit with Savage Rich Barris. Okay, right back here 826 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: with Savage Rich Barris, director of Director of Big Data, 827 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: Pole and Easy Rich Savage and and also crazy crazy Rich. 828 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: So I want to go through some Trump highlights, because debates, you. 829 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 2: Know, I don't wait to take this a lot. 830 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 1: No, go ahead, go ahead, well wait till it. 831 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 2: Clip, wait to the clip. 832 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: Listen. There are a lot of conservative doomers out there 833 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: after this debate. 834 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 2: Not just necessary, I listen. 835 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think that I think that debates. You 836 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: made a great point. Just be like, just because you 837 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,959 Speaker 1: think somebody wins a debate is not necessarily the person 838 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: that you're going to be voting for. And Trump had 839 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: all of the memorable moments in the debate, every single one. Yes, 840 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: yes he was distracted on the crowd side stuff, but 841 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: he still talked about the economy, He talked about immigration, 842 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: He talked about the fact that Kamala doesn't have a plan. 843 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: Could he have prosecuted the case against Kamala better? Yes? 844 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: Could he have better? Could he have exposed, truly exposed 845 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: just how insanely radical she is. I think he could 846 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: have done a lot better on that. Sure, And I 847 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: think that what I am what the biggest missed opportunity 848 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: for me? And look, I'm not I am not piling 849 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: on Trump at all. I'm saying that this man went 850 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: three to one. It was a tall order from the 851 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: very beginning, like it was a hot bowl environment. He 852 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: did the best he could with what he had. But 853 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 1: I think that not tying Kamala to Biden's cognitive decline 854 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: huge mistakes. 855 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 3: What what did Tony tell him was her biggest vulnerabilities? 856 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 2: I was left wondering last night. 857 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, and I'm not here to make any friends. Clearly, 858 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 3: I'm here to tell my people who follow me the truth. 859 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 3: And somebody must not have done correct pulling or did 860 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 3: And by the way, they're running around telling everybody. 861 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: He didn't use any of her stuff. 862 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 2: We told him this. 863 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 3: Okay, that's what every consultant or polster says when they 864 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 3: give their client bad advice. How do you not know 865 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 3: that her two biggest vulnerabilities are basically one that she 866 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 3: was involved in the cover up of Joe Biden's finality 867 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 3: and that two they don't know how she's going to 868 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 3: be any different than Joe Biden, including with immigration of course, 869 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,720 Speaker 3: and cost of living being the two biggest concerns. 870 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like I wish you had said 871 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: you cut and pasted Biden's policies from his way. 872 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 2: It's literally source code. It's literally the source code for 873 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 2: Biden's website. 874 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: Folks. 875 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 2: All right, that's how bad. 876 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 3: It's a copy, it's a mimic of Joe Biden's stuff. 877 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 3: And then she verbally mimics Donald Trump in the hopes 878 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 3: that nobody will notice that she's not maga. 879 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just insane. But how do you not 880 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 2: drive that home? 881 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 3: There were multiple times where he missed huge layups and 882 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 3: he could have put the nails in her coff in 883 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 3: three v one or not. And by the way, I 884 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 3: will say this because I have to compliment and give 885 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 3: credit where credit's due. If you go back and rewatch 886 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 3: the debate at Fresh Eyes any ears, folks, he was 887 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,240 Speaker 3: handily winning that debate for the first fifteen to twenty minutes. 888 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 2: It wasn't a v three v one at first. 889 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 3: When he knocked it out of the park on abortion, 890 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 3: they flipped their shit and went three v one. 891 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 2: That's what happened. 892 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 3: He killed it because they could They can't pin Trump down. 893 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 3: Trump isn't like other Republicans like Ron DeSantis, Ted Cruz, right, 894 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 3: he didn't try to like make himself unelectable in a 895 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 3: national election so he could win the Iowa caucusus A 896 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 3: right like. He has played the abortion issue so masterfully, 897 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 3: and not just this year, since he came on the scene, 898 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 3: since he came down the escalator. That man has had 899 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 3: his pulse on how Americans feel about the abortion issue, 900 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 3: their knee jerk reaction, want to support rights and not restrictions, 901 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 3: although they don't like the heinous nature of the abortion industry. 902 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 2: And he's played it and we done wrote it right, Sean. 903 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 3: And once he they failed to get him on that, 904 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 3: that was it. 905 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 2: That's when they went three v one. 906 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,280 Speaker 3: That's when David Murra started interrupting him and helping Harris 907 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, with just absolutely ridiculous waste of everybody's. 908 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: Time, ridiculous fact checks that were wrong. You're wrong, You're 909 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: just blatantly wrong. I mean, like I'm telling you straight up, 910 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: I live not too far away from Springfield, Ohio. Those 911 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: Haitians are definitely eating people's pets. And I'm telling you 912 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: I've heard it from people like people laughing like these morons, 913 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: like these moron like like these press people like, uh 914 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: all the the city manager said, it's not happening. Oh well, 915 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: shit the city manager. I guess if you ask any 916 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: follow up questions, I mean, hey, don't worry about the 917 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: fact that there's you know, a group of Haitians driving 918 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: around in a van and snatching up cats in the neighborhood. 919 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: My god's the city manager who says everything's fine, Like 920 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: what what a what a bunch of mouth breathing morons. 921 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,479 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just telling you. And that's just one. 922 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: That's just one example. But my let me show you, 923 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 1: can I tell you can show you my favorite moment. 924 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely this was This was my favorite moment. Absolutely listen 925 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 1: to this. 926 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 5: They sent her to negotiate peace before this war started. 927 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 5: Three days later he went in and he started the 928 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 5: war because everything they said was weak and stupid. They 929 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 5: said the wrong things. That war should have never started. 930 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 5: She was the emissary. They sent her in to negotiate 931 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 5: with Zelenski and Putin, and she did and the war 932 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 5: started three days later. 933 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 1: I just thought that, like, they send this lady into 934 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: negotiated peace and the war starts three days later. 935 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 2: Fact check true. My favorite part is when he was 936 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 2: very powerful against Hillary Clinton went and he did prosecute 937 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 2: it correctly, and he showed a deference for the White 938 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 2: House in the office and he said, you know, she 939 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 2: sits there and talks about all these things she's gonna do. 940 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 2: She's been in office for four years. 941 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that sound bite. I know that's the 942 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: most That was the in his closing statement, why haven't 943 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: you done it? 944 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 2: But he shouldn't that front load this and he should 945 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 2: have hammered it all night long. Being I'm glad he 946 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 2: used it in his closing statement because it's the last 947 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 2: thing that people are going to take away when they 948 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 2: leave the debate, and they did, trust me. I am 949 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 2: hearing this from voters like crazy, and by the we're 950 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 2: not alone. Other focus groups are as well. Doctor Philhert 951 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 2: CNN or did MSM Reuter's heard it. I'm hearing it, 952 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 2: Patrick basher Murder. We're all hearing this. 953 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 3: She failed to convince us how she was going to 954 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 3: get out from underneath finding shadow and do things differently. 955 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 3: And I'm starting to think of it as she's got 956 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 3: the gerald Ford problem. Gerald Ford ran against Jimmy Carter. 957 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 2: And actually people like Gerald Ford. 958 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,720 Speaker 3: But the problem was he couldn't get out from Nixon shadow, 959 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 3: and he couldn't convince the nation that he was going 960 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 3: to do something different. And right at the end there, 961 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 3: what did he do. He pardoned Richard Nixon and everyone 962 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 3: knew he was going to do that. And I'm not 963 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,720 Speaker 3: saying it was the wrong decision. It was the right decision, 964 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 3: of course, but it hurt him because people couldn't figure out, 965 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 3: you know how he would take the country in a 966 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 3: new direction and leave the past, the sixties and the 967 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 3: tumultuous sixty He's in the early seventies behind us, and 968 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 3: he couldn't make that case. 969 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 2: And that's why they went for jim Jimmy Carter. 970 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: Okay, let me show you another sign. But and then 971 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: don't want to get your reaction on this, all right? 972 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 5: In Minnesota, she went out a minute, I'm talking now, 973 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 5: if you don't mind, please, does that sound familiar? She 974 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 5: went out, what. 975 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 2: Kid, what are you gonna do? 976 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: Meloie. I started laughing so hard when I said I 977 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: did not have I did not have Trump pulling the 978 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm speaking on my twenty twenty four Bengo card. But 979 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 1: he did. 980 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 3: But that's her of course, you know. And what's funny 981 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 3: about it. I played the South Park clip. Do you 982 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 3: guys remember the South Park clip on they had I'm speaking, Madam, 983 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 3: I'm speaking, I am mat Can I finish? Can I 984 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,919 Speaker 3: finish again? That's Kamala Harris, all right. I mean she's 985 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 3: even Canadian more than she's American. So I mean it 986 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 3: fits perfectly that guy's Canadian on the South Park skid, 987 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 3: you know. 988 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, I actually think like he had. 989 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,720 Speaker 3: A risk of pulling what I always call Rick Lazio. 990 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 3: When Rick Lazio was running for Senate against Hillary Clinton 991 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 3: in two thousand. He actually it was a close race. 992 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 3: People think about it New York and think it's, you know, 993 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 3: very liberal, But it was close because Giuliani was the favorite. 994 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 3: He would have beaten Hillary Clinton if he ran for 995 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 3: US Senate. But Rick Lazio had it pretty close and 996 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 3: blew it when he walked across the stage and acted 997 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 3: like a man, you know, like he was talking to 998 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 3: another man, and they thought it was and she played 999 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 3: the victim, of course, and they made it out like 1000 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 3: he was being too aggressive with a woman. 1001 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 2: And that was the end of Rick Lazio. So he 1002 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 2: avoided that that was the closest. That's the moment I 1003 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,399 Speaker 2: believe was like the closest he came to stepping over, 1004 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 2: but he didn't. He didn't, no catastrophic moment. 1005 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: So so you brought up South Park. Kamala seems to 1006 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 1: have the economic understandings of like almost like the underpants gnomes. 1007 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 1: You know, step one, steel underpants, step two three profit. 1008 00:52:59,360 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 1009 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: Well, all right, so listen, tell us about like the future, 1010 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,720 Speaker 1: like how is this going to affect the race moving forward? 1011 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: Where do you see what race going from here? In 1012 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: the last fifty or so days. 1013 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to see, you know what the data 1014 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 2: tells us over the period of a couple of days. 1015 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 3: It's still fresh here. Let's give it time for it 1016 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 3: to sink in. But honestly, folks were fresh off the 1017 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 3: Biden debate that was an emperor has no closed moment. 1018 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 3: Before that, you'd have to go back to Ronald Reagan 1019 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 3: versus Jimmy Carter. There you go again. Debates usually don't 1020 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 3: change the trajectory of races. They honestly don't. And before 1021 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 3: that you would have to go back to the very 1022 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 3: first televised debate with Richard Nixon and JFK. If you 1023 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 3: were watching on television, he thought JFK one. If you 1024 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 3: were listening on the radio, you thought Nixon one. Debates 1025 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 3: really don't have that impact. And anyone who's in academia 1026 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 3: on my field who tells you otherwise is full of shit. 1027 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 1: All right, Savage Rich, tell us what you got going 1028 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 1: on this weekend with the family. Tell us where we 1029 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: can find you, how we can support you. 1030 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, folks, the Public Polling Projects and 1031 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 2: full grind. If that's if you want to support us, 1032 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 2: that's the best way to do it. You can go 1033 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 2: to locals people's pundin dot locals dot com and that 1034 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 2: is you'll find it there, it's on a little sidebar, 1035 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 2: and support our polls or big Data poll dot com. 1036 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 2: And we're actually doing a national it's machine learning AI 1037 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 2: national voter analysis that will give us an idea of 1038 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 2: what we think the electorate will look like. 1039 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 1: We'll show you. 1040 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 3: Exactly overall every the whole population, what does it look like. 1041 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 2: And then what we think the electorate will look like. 1042 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 3: So that's pretty neat. That's in the pipeline. So is 1043 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 3: the Public Polling Project. 1044 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 2: The Ross Belts up next hopefully, folks, so you know, 1045 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 2: share it farm wide, contribute if you can. 1046 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: Man, you are, you are really doing some innovative stuff. 1047 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: It seems like you're growing like gangbusters. 1048 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying, brother, I'm trying. You know, someone's got to 1049 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 2: keep them honest. 1050 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: Someone's got to That should be your tagline. Someone's got 1051 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: to keep them honest. 1052 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,879 Speaker 2: Used to be accuracy matters. But I'm have to change it, 1053 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 2: you know, or data don't lie. People do never know. 1054 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: But that's a good one. 1055 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 2: That's a good one too. But I may have to 1056 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 2: change it up here real soon because the whole thing's evolving. 1057 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: Get some new headshots, you know, maybe grow a beard. 1058 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,840 Speaker 2: That's great, bro, We do have some. We got some 1059 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 2: family pictures coming up actually pretty soon. We had to 1060 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 2: bump them because of what everything that's with the election. 1061 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 2: Have to push it probably until after, but it will 1062 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,839 Speaker 2: be nice. I'm looking forward to it. 1063 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking forward to having you back next week 1064 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: as always. Rich, Thank you, Savage. Laura also who's there 1065 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,320 Speaker 1: in the background with her glitzy risk, thank you as well. 1066 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: All right, Rich, Thanks brother, We'll see you next week, man, 1067 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 1: Thank you soon. Man, all right, see you guys. That 1068 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,720 Speaker 1: is savage Rich Barriss, the best polster in the business. Okay, folks, 1069 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: I hope that you feel a little better about the debate. 1070 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna move the needle. I think 1071 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: Trump surprised nobody said he's said he didn't. He's been 1072 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 1: saying the same damn thing since twenty sixteen. Kamala failed 1073 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: to move the needle. She didn't convince America that she 1074 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 1: was any different than Biden. So yees, she had some 1075 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: polished words. Did Trump have a perfect debate performance? 1076 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 3: No? 1077 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 1: So my point, keep calm, carry on right campaign like 1078 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 1: we're ten points down. Trump was three on one in 1079 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 1: that debate, did the best that he could with what 1080 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: he had. No doomers, There is no reason to be, 1081 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, oh what are we gonna do? To 1082 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: hell with that double down? Focus on winning because we 1083 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 1: are going to win this thing. We are going to 1084 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: save our country. The task falls to us. So smash 1085 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: that like button, smash that like button, that little green 1086 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 1: thumb beneath the video. We have made the leaderboard. I 1087 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 1: think we've made the leaderboard every single day this week. 1088 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 1: I want to try to keep climbing it. It would 1089 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: be great. At some point to get in the top thirty, 1090 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: that would be awesome. So go ahead and smash that 1091 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 1: like button. 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Take care, goodnight, and I will 1102 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. Battle crud, take care. God bless