WEBVTT - Bring It On with Maggie Maye

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<v Speaker 1>On the bed cast, the questions asked if movies have

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<v Speaker 1>women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,

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<v Speaker 1>or do they have individualism? The patriarchy zef invest start

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<v Speaker 1>changing with the cast. Hi, welcome, welcome, I feel so comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling really alive. Hey, thanks for here. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Caitlin, my name's Jamie, and uh this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Bechtel Cast. Thank you so much for being here. For

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who have never heard the show before,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we tell you a little bit about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about the representation and portrayal of women in movies,

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<v Speaker 1>using the Bechtel test as a jumping off point to

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<v Speaker 1>initiate that larger conversation. Hey, Jamie, what's the What the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is the Bechtel Test? Okay, calm down, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you furious. It's It's a media test invented by a

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<v Speaker 1>cartoonist named Alison Bechdel. It is a test that requires,

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<v Speaker 1>in a piece of media that there'll be two female

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<v Speaker 1>identifying characters who have names, who speak to each other

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<v Speaker 1>about something other than a man for two lines of dialogue.

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<v Speaker 1>Or that's the way we define the test. You think

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<v Speaker 1>it would be easy, but allws of Lord of the

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<v Speaker 1>Rings do not pass, so it is and that said,

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<v Speaker 1>it is still very easy. We're psyched to be back

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<v Speaker 1>at the Ruby. We love the Ruby. Give it up

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<v Speaker 1>for the Ruby and Los Angeles. Um, and we've got

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a real treat tonight in terms of movie

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<v Speaker 1>and guests. So let's bring her out. We're turning to

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<v Speaker 1>the Capectel cast. She's a very funny comedian. You've seen

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<v Speaker 1>her on Conan and you know her from our Harry

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<v Speaker 1>Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone episode. It's Maggie may Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, guys, how are you pretty good? Welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you for having me back. We can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about Bring it On? Yeah, clap If

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<v Speaker 1>you have not seen Bring it On? Wow, Wow did

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<v Speaker 1>their homework? Wow? Okay. We love good pupils. You are

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<v Speaker 1>rewarded with whatever trash is in our pockets the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much for coming. Um, bring on?

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<v Speaker 1>What a film? Two thousand? Uh? You know and if

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<v Speaker 1>you've listened to episodes about movies that come out between

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<v Speaker 1>nine two two, it's a precarious time for passing the

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<v Speaker 1>Bechtel test and acting ethically, it's a it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>precarious time. So we'll figure out what side of that

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<v Speaker 1>late nineties early odd spectrum we fall on tonight. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so Maggie, we'll start with you. What's your history, your

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with the movie Bring It On? Okay, so I

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<v Speaker 1>love the movie you Bring It On. I was a cheerleader,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we didn't even know that when we asked you

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<v Speaker 1>to be a Yeah. I was a cheerleader, like all

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<v Speaker 1>the way through. Um. I went to a magnet high

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<v Speaker 1>school that did not have sports, but I insisted on

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<v Speaker 1>doing independent cheerleading for like a year. Wait, were you

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<v Speaker 1>like alone operative? Yes, it was not beneficial. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like to all the rest of the nurses. This school

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<v Speaker 1>was like number seventy seven in the nation. It was

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<v Speaker 1>number seven in the nation, and it's heyday, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, everybody trying to get into Harvard, who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to cheer? They were like, if you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>the fun out of this computer lab right now? So

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<v Speaker 1>you had nothing to cheer for, but you pursued it,

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<v Speaker 1>cheered for like you know, masterminds and math squad and

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<v Speaker 1>we went to competition like mathlete competition. They did not

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<v Speaker 1>let me go, and I cheered from home. I cheered

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<v Speaker 1>from home, so amazing. So you're a fan of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a former cheerleader, and it came out the year

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<v Speaker 1>that I was a senior, so I was like watching

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<v Speaker 1>me like I would have been going through all this

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<v Speaker 1>bullshit if I would have gone to a regular high school.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what if, Jamie, what's your history? I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I saw this movie was at uh

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<v Speaker 1>sleepover that I was not cool enough to be invited

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<v Speaker 1>to in middle school, which is a real treat. It

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<v Speaker 1>was because Ryan Cheatham, who was one of the coolest

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<v Speaker 1>girls in school, liked me when I was seven, and

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<v Speaker 1>she just decided to look like she was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those merciful cool girls who was like, no, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie sucks, but we're gonna let her hang out with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she she would be nagging me constantly, but would

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<v Speaker 1>also let me come. And I was honestly so grateful

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<v Speaker 1>to her that she would let me be there. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was thrilled to be there. And they're like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>watching a movie about cheerleaders, and I'm like, awesome, yes, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>let me steady. So I don't remember much about watching

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<v Speaker 1>it the first time because I was so nervous to

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<v Speaker 1>be at that sleepover. I was just like very aware

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<v Speaker 1>of my posture um and like whatever was going on

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<v Speaker 1>with my body. I just was like, maybe this is

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<v Speaker 1>my big chance. It wasn't. But uh so, I truly

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<v Speaker 1>like I had seen it. I vividly remember watching it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't remember anything that happened. Okay, okay, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd seen it a few times and had a weird

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<v Speaker 1>traumatic memory attached to it. Okay, what about you. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it only one time before prepping for the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in high school. I think right around when

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<v Speaker 1>it came out. I don't think I saw in the theater,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do have a vivid memory of the scene

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<v Speaker 1>where Eliza douche Coup wipes her fake tattoo off and

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<v Speaker 1>then does a bunch of gymnastics for some reason. That

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<v Speaker 1>is like emblazoned into my memory. And then I remembered

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else about the movie. So a good moment. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the main point in the movie. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's iconic. So I you know this, this movie is fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's super fun. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>love here. There's a lot of stuff to love. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff to be like, there is more

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<v Speaker 1>to love than I thought there would be, going in

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<v Speaker 1>which is which is always nice. And also watching this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>I understood parts of the Thank You Next music video

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't previously understood. I was like, why is already

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground a brushing her teeth for five minutes?

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<v Speaker 1>It was a reference to this you love seeing like

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<v Speaker 1>a reverse reference or like like understanding what a reference? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then being like TV, I get it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>five months later being like, I see that was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the Simpsons. Yeah. Growing up I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that was even funnier now. I used to sneak watch

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<v Speaker 1>Fraser at my house when I was in elementary school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my little personal rebellion that I do. Crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't invited to sleep roppers, but I would always be like,

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<v Speaker 1>ha ha, I understand, I'm den I know these baroque

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<v Speaker 1>musicians they're they're joking about. I probably still wouldn't understand,

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<v Speaker 1>but I love like I It's weird how like young

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<v Speaker 1>you can be when you condition yourself to pretend to

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<v Speaker 1>understand what's going on to defend mechanisms. It is Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're laughing. Everybody else's laughing, or like they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have pauses where you're like, I bet you that was

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<v Speaker 1>a joke. Yeah, you're like that. I didn't understand. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do the recap. You'll do the recap, Okay, I will,

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly will. That's how it goes. So we meet

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<v Speaker 1>Torrents Shipman. Yeah, tour Tory is Why is her name

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<v Speaker 1>like torrent And then also the team is called the Toros.

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<v Speaker 1>That had to have been on purpose by the screenwriter,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing, but it was. It was a weird choice anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So kirston Dunes is Torrans Shipman? Isn't Torrens a place

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<v Speaker 1>in California? Do? Is it? Is it? Yeah? I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like there's a lot of weird, Like where are

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<v Speaker 1>the going with this? Yeah? California? What do we know?

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<v Speaker 1>Her boyfriend's name is San sam Diego that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to use that, Okay. So she is a cheerleader in

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<v Speaker 1>high school. Like I said, her team as the Rancho

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<v Speaker 1>Carnate Toros. Frachocarnate. Can I just say Rancho carnate? What

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck? Okay, go ahead, go ahead, we opened She's

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<v Speaker 1>cheering in front of the whole school about how awesome

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleaders are, and then sudden she's naked and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, it was a dream. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's a dream because we're learning all of the

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<v Speaker 1>women by name, which would never happen in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>That was I was like, of course this is a

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<v Speaker 1>dream sequence. We know what their names are. True. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we meet her boyfriend, Aaron, he's about to move

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<v Speaker 1>away for college. And then it's the start of Torrance's

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<v Speaker 1>senior year of high school and the cheerleading squad is

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<v Speaker 1>voting for the new team captain because big Red, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess has graduated even though she's still there. That is

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<v Speaker 1>very true that I mean, but like that's true of cheerleaders.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and like Dan, I was on a dance team

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<v Speaker 1>in high school, brag, thank you so much. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there are like people who are like two

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<v Speaker 1>into high school sports and activities that go to nearby

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<v Speaker 1>colleges and they're like, I'm just gonna come by and

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, don't like it's weird. It always makes you

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<v Speaker 1>look weird. But I don't know that track for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Red, she just she was clearly not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>adapting very well freshman year because she was always lurking around.

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<v Speaker 1>He was around high school. Choose around. Did she show

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<v Speaker 1>up still in her cheerleading uniform a couple of times? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, she needs to move on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you were not going to make it read go to

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<v Speaker 1>class in between anatomy and physiology. I'm gonna scare the

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<v Speaker 1>hell out of my high school. So then Torrence gets

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<v Speaker 1>voted new squad captain. Yes, Kirson Dunst, who is in

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<v Speaker 1>every movie between and two thousand and four. Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So then this new boy moves to school, Cliff. She

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<v Speaker 1>is vibing with him. He loves Cliff Pantone. All the

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<v Speaker 1>names are so weird because Pantone is like the name

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<v Speaker 1>of a color company. Yeah, and I was like, and

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<v Speaker 1>then then Cliff, Okay, So she's vibing with him. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's a spot on the squad because someone gets injured,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they have to hold tryouts for a great

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for an audition Monta and Pippot. It's a great audition,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you believe it? Everyone who tries out isn't weird

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<v Speaker 1>until we get too Missy. That's Eliza douche gu and

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<v Speaker 1>she is rough, she is tough, and she's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think cheerleading stupid. But your school doesn't have a gymnastics team,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is my last resort. And we know all

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<v Speaker 1>the hard, tough people around the gymnastics team. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>logic this movie subscribes to, Like, you know what, the

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<v Speaker 1>gymnastics team is terrifying, alright, they're all like kid Domini

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<v Speaker 1>just shot somebody, ok with us. She vaulted up the

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<v Speaker 1>beam and shot someone in the knee cap on like

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<v Speaker 1>the matrix, and then stuck the landing. I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see that movie. Incidentally, this screenwriter also wrote stick It,

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<v Speaker 1>that gymnastics movie that came out in two thousand and six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this writer had two interests and they're very related. They're

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<v Speaker 1>flips and more flips with pomp pomps. So Torren sees

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<v Speaker 1>Missy's potential, but the other cheerleaders are like, oh gross,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a goth. But tor she's a go with like

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<v Speaker 1>hair that like vaguely resembles dreadlocks but like not quite. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a that that hairstyle toes a line. The toes

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<v Speaker 1>a line. So Torrence goes and tries to convince her

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<v Speaker 1>to join the team and she's like, fine, I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we learned the twist that Cliff and Missy

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<v Speaker 1>are brother and sister. And then uh so Missy goes

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<v Speaker 1>to practice and she sees the burr it's cold here

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<v Speaker 1>in the atmosphere. Burre. There must be so TaurOs in

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<v Speaker 1>that atmosphere. Shoot for the listeners back and got solo

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<v Speaker 1>work coming up, the independent study work. When you do

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<v Speaker 1>it by yourself, you don't have to be on rhythm

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<v Speaker 1>because yes for the listeners to find your own beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you just got up and started dancing, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was glory choreography. It was incredible. Y'all missed it. You

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<v Speaker 1>should have been here. So she sees that and she's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys stole those cheers. Let me prove it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And she drives her from San Diego to Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>that's a three hour drive by the way on a

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<v Speaker 1>school night, and shows her the Clovers from East Compton

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<v Speaker 1>doing the exact same cheer, and we learn that Big

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<v Speaker 1>Red had been traveling to the school. Take yeah, putting

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of effort, and it's like, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>if you have all that time, you might still what

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing? Yeah? Yeah, she was going away even

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<v Speaker 1>know about them. Yeah, I'm like in two thousand, where

0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.000
<v Speaker 1>would you found out they don't have a web page?

0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that much right now, but it's yeah,

0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.320
<v Speaker 1>that was. I was like, Okay, I guess we're just

0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.960
<v Speaker 1>we're just here for the ride. So they go and

0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.280
<v Speaker 1>watch it and the Clovers the team captain is Isis.

0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:45.240
<v Speaker 1>That's Gabrielle Union's character. So in every movie from and

0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I says was like, hey, white ladies, you stole from us.

0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:54.280
<v Speaker 1>That is the line that she sayes. But it it

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<v Speaker 1>ends now and this year we're winning Nationals and Torrence

0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:02.240
<v Speaker 1>is upset. She didn't realize that the cheers have been stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>So now she's like, hey, squad, we've got to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with something else, a new a new thing for regionals.

0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:13.480
<v Speaker 1>That's right around the corner, Isn't it always always? That's

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<v Speaker 1>how I hope in every conversation, like Regionals is right

0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:20.120
<v Speaker 1>around the corner. Well, then she says like, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to get a new routine, and the squad is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, no, right, we know burr whatever it's still

0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.520
<v Speaker 1>called in here. I'm in a jacket. Okay, we're doing

0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.560
<v Speaker 1>at Burr works for us. But then then the Clovers

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<v Speaker 1>show up to one of their football games and like

0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the cheer that you're doing, we also invented that one.

0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.960
<v Speaker 1>That's a great scene. I like that was a good scene.

0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Just watch that scene. You have the whole movie. You

0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.480
<v Speaker 1>need to see also in that scene. This has nothing

0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to do with anything, but I think that they're the

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<v Speaker 1>movie keeps making a play to be like Cliff is

0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.840
<v Speaker 1>a little different. He's an intellectual. So he's at that

0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:04.520
<v Speaker 1>football game reading The Human Ape. I didn't looked up

0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the book. It's like a famous sociology book about evolution.

0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.320
<v Speaker 1>So they're like, no, Cliff, no, no, no, he's he's

0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.840
<v Speaker 1>not a sports boy. Rather, he's a Darwin boy. Like

0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.640
<v Speaker 1>that's just like, what is the point of he's gonna

0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:24.160
<v Speaker 1>voluntarily show up to a football game no one asked

0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.480
<v Speaker 1>him to be at. I've invited him and do homework

0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that no one asked him to do. Everything with Cliff

0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:33.880
<v Speaker 1>is a reach for me, but that was one of

0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the chest reaches of just like no, no, no, he's

0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:41.320
<v Speaker 1>smart to check this ship out that he loves the Ramans.

0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:49.120
<v Speaker 1>He's not like the other boys. He's not. He's not.

0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.600
<v Speaker 1>It's so weird. He reads books. He's a Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a book ramon man, you know the type. Okay. So

0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:03.480
<v Speaker 1>then tore his boyfriend, Aaron, who is like actively cheating

0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:09.680
<v Speaker 1>on her, recommends that the squad hires Sparky Polastery, another

0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.720
<v Speaker 1>winner of the name of Spirit Fingers. Just that name

0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.600
<v Speaker 1>sounds suspicious. Yeah, sounds suspicious as Hale sounds like he's

0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.680
<v Speaker 1>going to try to sell them knives and ship. Well,

0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.399
<v Speaker 1>it also sounds like Sparky Palastry sounds like you've already

0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:27.359
<v Speaker 1>had to change your name more than once, because that

0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.720
<v Speaker 1>would that would that wouldn't even be like someone's first

0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:36.000
<v Speaker 1>choice for an alien maybe like well, Sam Diego, Mark

0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Sparky Plaster. Okay, So then they hire him, but he's expensive.

0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.280
<v Speaker 1>He cost two thousand dollars. So they do a car

0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.240
<v Speaker 1>wash fundraiser, which is an excuse to show a bunch

0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of teen girls in bikini. I didn't find that grow

0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:59.440
<v Speaker 1>two of this at all. Meanwhile, Cliff and Torrance, they're

0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.400
<v Speaker 1>vibing the father pretty hard. I swear it. You can

0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.600
<v Speaker 1>cut Cliff entirely out of the movie. Is no difference,

0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.600
<v Speaker 1>said He does not help the movie in any way,

0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.679
<v Speaker 1>shape or for him. He helps the movie nothing. He

0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.879
<v Speaker 1>just Yeah, cut Cliff, he's trimmed the fat him and

0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.840
<v Speaker 1>his damn books. Get him out. I bet you they

0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.600
<v Speaker 1>forced that into it, like in Hunger Games when they

0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.120
<v Speaker 1>forced Gail in there, like we need a lot of entrant.

0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.360
<v Speaker 1>They probably were like, let's put in a complex bad

0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:33.040
<v Speaker 1>boy with you. Totally does seem like he's like a studio,

0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.320
<v Speaker 1>like a sentient studio note because he's like put in

0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.840
<v Speaker 1>a convenient place where like, oh, if Missy had a

0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:44.960
<v Speaker 1>brother who didn't play by the rules, Pantoones are a

0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:49.280
<v Speaker 1>family badass pantos. Pantos are also a parentless family like

0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>her in this huge as house and then she at

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.320
<v Speaker 1>one point, Missy's like, oh, they're in a benefit. They'll

0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.760
<v Speaker 1>be fucked up for days. It's just like, what is

0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.480
<v Speaker 1>it going on with your parents? It's there. He seems

0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:05.840
<v Speaker 1>like very wealthy alcoholics. Good for her. Cut cut the

0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Cliff storyline and make the advanced chemistry class that she

0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:13.560
<v Speaker 1>has to take. Make that a storyline where she learns

0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.399
<v Speaker 1>about chemistry and finds out that she loves it. Women

0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.600
<v Speaker 1>in stem careers, Yeah, that's right, we need women in

0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:28.800
<v Speaker 1>stem who also are cheerleaders. Yes, that's my Yeah, he

0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:30.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even bad. He just brought a book to a

0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:39.760
<v Speaker 1>football game. It's not bad. It's pretty good, a good student.

0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:50.119
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, this is kind of bonus work. So

0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.639
<v Speaker 1>then Sparky shows up. He criticizes everyone on the team

0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and then very creative bodies. It's I felt he's like

0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.880
<v Speaker 1>one develop and eating a disorder or stop eating altogether.

0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:06.920
<v Speaker 1>And that whole scene and the super helpful yeah, oh

0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.080
<v Speaker 1>it totally helped the demon. That was helpful for me

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:13.880
<v Speaker 1>to see. It was a good reminder to stop eating right.

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:18.960
<v Speaker 1>And then he whips Missy with a towel and he

0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.800
<v Speaker 1>hasn't fired. He has not fired. He is very bad

0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 1>at his job. He's obsessed with spirit hands fingers and

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:30.520
<v Speaker 1>everyone's yes and night. There were a few people who

0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:36.520
<v Speaker 1>were like in the ground and spirit fingies. I'll go

0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.440
<v Speaker 1>ahead and cancel myself. Um, I like this day in

0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the front room and you said spirit hands. He went

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:46.240
<v Speaker 1>twinkled his fingers like you're right, You're right, Okay, so

0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:52.679
<v Speaker 1>spirit fingers. And then and they do end up with

0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.240
<v Speaker 1>a routine that like no one's really excited about, and

0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 1>then we cut to reach routine. As a cheerleader, it's

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Speaker 1>not a good routine's funk you would know simply a hack.

0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:06.239
<v Speaker 1>The Toros are a regionals, the Clovers are Regionals, and

0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 1>then the team that goes right before the Toros does

0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the exact same fucking Sparky plant Screen whatever his name is.

0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:17.760
<v Speaker 1>They're double dipp in. He's double dipp in. He got

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.120
<v Speaker 1>four thousand dollars. Imagine the damage he could do. Well,

0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the judge says, you did it to six different squads,

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:30.280
<v Speaker 1>so that's twelve thousand dollars. And the judges are like,

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.640
<v Speaker 1>we don't know what to do about this. You're not disqualified,

0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.040
<v Speaker 1>but like make sure you come back with a new

0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:40.840
<v Speaker 1>routine at nationals. Also, the Clovers do a great routine

0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:45.359
<v Speaker 1>at Regionals. And then there's a few different like short

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.159
<v Speaker 1>confrontations between Gabrielle Union and Kirsten Dunce and this is

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the good ones where they're like all

0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:56.400
<v Speaker 1>laughing at the Toros and they're right, it's funny, yes,

0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 1>And then Aaron, who for some reason is Torrance's boyfriend,

0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:05.680
<v Speaker 1>tells her you're not captain material and like just give

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it up, and then Cliff finds out that she has

0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:12.920
<v Speaker 1>a boyfriend and he gets mad right because she was

0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:22.879
<v Speaker 1>leading him on, dude him and all his books. Courtney

0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and Whitney try to mutiny her and withdraw from Nationals altogether,

0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 1>but Torrance is like, no, this is our chance to

0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:32.040
<v Speaker 1>show that we are the original people that we thought

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.920
<v Speaker 1>we were, but it actually we're not. But we can

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.479
<v Speaker 1>do it. And then they practiced really hard, they come

0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:41.439
<v Speaker 1>up with a new routine. Torrance breaks up with Aaron,

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and then they're all ready to go to Nationals until

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.560
<v Speaker 1>they learned the the East Compton Clovers aren't going because

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't raise money for the trip. Right Torrance, it's

0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:54.159
<v Speaker 1>hell bent on them going because she's like, they're the

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.920
<v Speaker 1>stiffest competition and if we want to show that we're

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.879
<v Speaker 1>the best, we have to beat the best. And then

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 1>she gets her dad to sponsor the Clover's big Daddy moment.

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah but isis tears up the check they refused. Yes, yeah, yeah,

0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I love that part too, Yes, take that safe Yeah,

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:24.439
<v Speaker 1>right night school. I didn't even go there. Then the

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Clovers end up getting sponsored by a talk show host

0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that's from their neighborhood. And then they are able to

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 1>go to Nationals. So both teams are there Isis says

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.280
<v Speaker 1>bring it, doesn't say bring it, and then we're like,

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>what she says most two thirds of it, and so

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:45.200
<v Speaker 1>we're like, oh, yeah, and we appreciate her restraint. Yeah,

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And both teams make it to the very final round

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and they both put on a great show. They have

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:56.439
<v Speaker 1>great sets, solid type fives, you know. And then the

0:23:56.520 --> 0:24:01.679
<v Speaker 1>Toros get second place. The Clovers when first place Nationals.

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations to the Clovers, and then a kiss because we

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>can't close out the movie without a Cliff kiss. Wait, well,

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just realizing he did Cliff go to Daytona Beach. Yes,

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>he got on a flight last minute from San Diego

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to San Diego Diego. He should be in school right

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>like this is his parents really were fu Where are children?

0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Why did they have to move? Like we don't know

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 1>what the story has? All right, So that's the story.

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Give it up for the Clover's Okay. I like the

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>live shops where we were like clap for the plot.

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Now it works as a steamless transition whenever I need

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to insert the ad break because when is what that's

0:24:52.840 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>all above it? Where to begin, Well, let's start with Torrance.

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 1>So Torrence is the main character. She's played by Kirsten Dunst.

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize until more recently. Kind of like this

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>stock character that Kirsten duns plays where she is very

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 1>popular but she's also nice. I feel like she she

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 1>takes up a similar role and dropped Dead gorgeous in

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man, where it's like she always is like this

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 1>like white blonde girl who's very well liked by everybody,

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 1>and she has a code of ethics that she abides

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:39.439
<v Speaker 1>by and we're like, all right, sure, you know, but

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>then surrounding her are like popular girls who are bitchy

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:46.199
<v Speaker 1>and me and out to get her, like like Denise

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Richards and dropped Dead Gordon's and in this movie Courtney

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and Whitney. But she like she plays this very like sweetheart,

0:25:55.280 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>virginal snaggle toothy little thing and yeah it's her thing.

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Am I like crazy? That's her, Like she brags about it.

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 1>She Oh, she needs to be here's the thing. Someone

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>told us. She's called as a small tooth. She needs

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to be cast in a Bruckheimer joint to get those veneers,

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Bruckheimer veneers that I love. But yeah, so she's surrounded

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 1>She's like the nice, popular cheerleading captain surrounded by wretched

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.400
<v Speaker 1>people for the most part. Yeah, but she always plays

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of like this person with a moral center, and

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that like sort of translates throughout a lot of her roles,

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and this is like a really good example of one

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:45.919
<v Speaker 1>of them. I mean, it's it's weird, she's kind of

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>all over. I feel like, in general, this movie shows

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:54.199
<v Speaker 1>more sympathy towards Tour than is necessary a lot of

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>the time, where there's a lot of like empathy that

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:03.199
<v Speaker 1>should be placed with Isis and with East Compton that

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>is instead given to Tour in wait, like during the

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>scenes every time she realizes she's accidentally plagiarized, again, we're

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>supposed to feel terrible for her, and it's like someone

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>just has to be fact checking this. Like when Tour

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and Missy go to East Compton High and Missy's like, look,

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 1>this was a stolen routine to I was like, no,

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is such a I'm so embarrassed,

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and like we're supposed to be like, no, Tour, don't

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>be sad, It's okay, girl, But it's like, no, we

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>should be like upset for ice, Like there's there's just

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of moments where we're supposed to feel bad

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>for Kirsen Duns where I'm kind of like, whatever, fix it,

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 1>like you know. That's that is the big thing about

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>this movie for me is that it touches on like

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>race and appropriation because it is effectively about a group

0:27:55.400 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>of largely white upper class teens stealing from a community

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>of I think everyone on the Clovers as a person

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>of color, so they're stealing from people of color. Yet

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.479
<v Speaker 1>the movie is told from the point of view of

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the white people, and for most of the movie, the Clovers,

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>the people of color, are poised as the bad guys

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 1>that we're paying rooting against because we're rooting for the

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>white people exactly because the Protectors, which like this is

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>like the common start. You know, white women steal from

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:34.360
<v Speaker 1>us all the time, how that is, but like the

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>fact that they put I always found it weird that

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>the Clovers were seen like as the bad people when

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>they were getting random uk the whole most reimagine this

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>movie from the Clover's point of view, because then it's

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>about like Isis and her squad working very hard creating

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>original cheers and then they see like two white girls

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>snooping around on their practice who belonged to a squad

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>of like all white people three hours away. Which, yeah,

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like it should not be told from the point

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 1>of view of the white people. Yeah, we should be

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>rooting for the people who's whose cheers they're inappropriated. It's

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>so weird. Yeah, there there, And it also it sort

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>of feels like a weird cop out for Kirsten Dunks's

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.719
<v Speaker 1>character to never know, and so we have her as

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of like this channel of like, oh, I hope

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that she makes it right, Like, let's because I feel

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable with that, and I really hope that Kirston Duns

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and her dad figure this out, like and yeah, there

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of moments that there's just like some

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>dissonance and like, you know, we watched an Twine nineteen

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>is like that's not how hopefully most of us feel.

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>But the movie is so clearly feels certain that you're

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>going to feel that way that like Kirston and her

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>dad are gonna solve solve like white women stealing from

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>like black women, and that it's just the white man

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>is going to solve the problem of white women stealing

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>from black movement. Daddy is actually the missing piece there.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>What if Daddy were here? Well, I was so worried

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that it was kind of going to become a white

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>savior movie where she's like, my dad, I took money

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>from my dad and I'm giving it to you. And

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that that's not what happened. But I

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>can't help but to think, and this this is a theory.

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Let me know how you think about it. But I

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like Isis rejecting the money was not the writer

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>of the movie is deliberate attempt to be like, hey,

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure this is not a white

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>savior story. I think it was more to make Isis

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and the Clovers seem like more scary mean adversaries. Who

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the hell named her isis also crossed my mind. Not

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a crazi like movie. Just really is bad at naming anyone, Yeah,

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>real bad. Let's put the other team Isis and al Qaeda.

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Isis is an Egyptian goddess question master's degree. Okay, yeah,

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>so I'm hoping she was named after that. I think

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>this was pretty scary ices I think by a long time.

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I mean they could have gotten with Cam. Yeah,

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>one off the table, They're like, No, Torrance versus isis

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh my god, this movie comes on really strong.

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't really know, Like here's here's why.

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that because the movie frames the Clovers as quote,

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the bad guys and the and like adhering to for

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>a large chunk of the movie, the stereotype of the

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>angry black woman. So I feel like that her tearing

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>up the check wasn't like, oh, this isn't a white

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>savior story. It was more that like, we're mean. We're

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>not going to take your money because we're mean, Like

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna we're not going to try to reason

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>with you, and we're not going to try to let

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you make it right. We're just gonna be mad. Right,

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>That's how I interpreted it. But I think there I

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, I guess the only counterpoint I

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>would have today is there's for so much of the

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>movie it was like I was like, when are we

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>going to get to learn anything about like the individual

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>characters on the Clovers, Because it's it's so deep into

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the movie that you find out even remotely anything in

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the in the closest you get is that scene where

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>they're writing the letter to the talk show host, where

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>they're like vaguely describing their economic background, they're vaguely describing

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>what their plan is. It's clear they have a plan

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to get to nationals no matter what. So because that

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:56.479
<v Speaker 1>scene came right before like the only moment we got

0:32:56.760 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>with them came right before that, I'm hoping that the

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>writer was trying to at least give Isis a moment

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and and and try to help the audience understand where

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>she's coming from. It doesn't go nearly far enough in

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>just like developing the interior lives of anyone on The Clovers,

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>which is like such, why is like why do we

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 1>waste so much like real estate in this movie? On

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>fucking Cliff when half the cast is being ignored for

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the whole movie, Like cut Cliff, and let's like learn

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>about Isis and and all of her and the girl

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>group black who is in the who are the only

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>other teammates on? Did anyone else listen to that group? In?

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>One of them is on Real Housewives of Atlanta. Now, yes, okay,

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I've got someone with me. We've got a fact checker

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and I've got a fact checker is constantly googling everything

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>to say, but we don't get to know anything about

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>about those characters. And it's uh, the closest we get

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>at the scene that comes right before that. I feel

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's clear at least that Tore was deeply misguided

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>to do that. I don't think it goes far enough,

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>but I hope that that's the implication. Yeah, well we'll

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 1>never know. We'll never I mean, yeah, everyone involved with

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:20.439
<v Speaker 1>this movie is dead, so there's no one to check with. Okay.

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 1>I was like, we should tweet at him right now

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>to keep going on tour. There there's a lot to

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 1>talk about going on tour, like like we're gonna do

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to the East coast anyway. Plugs are later. I mean,

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>we know more about Tour than anyone else in the movie.

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>We arguably know too much about her to the point

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>where I don't care. There was one scene with her

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.959
<v Speaker 1>mom that I liked. We don't get which is weird.

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>It's weird that there's like this whole scene with Tour

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and her mom that is like generally positive, but we

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 1>never really go back to her mom again, and so

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>it kind of ends up not mattering, but they're doing

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the back and forth of tours. Mom is like, you

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>cheer too much. Take a math class. And then Torrence

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>is like, you hate that I'm not a genius. You

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 1>hate that I'm an idiot. I like that. I like

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>that mediocrity visibility. We need more of that. Yeah, the

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>mediover people everywhere, and they're no, we don't see them

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>on screen. I mean we do, we do female form. Ever,

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>sure we do a lot to like Champion, like you know,

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>women's education and stuff like that. But Torrance was just like,

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't really care about school. I only care about cheerleading,

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and you're just gonna have to accept that, mom. And

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>then she was like and then her mom's like, take

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 1>a science class. And Torrance is like fine, And that's

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that should have been a subplot, not Cliff Ray. That's

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 1>another great use of the time that we waste on Cliff.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>But let's talk Well, we're on the subject of Cliff

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:04.720
<v Speaker 1>as well. There is, of course of like vague, poorly

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:09.280
<v Speaker 1>constructed love triangle in this movie with Aaron Tore and Cliff.

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I've never cared less in my entire life. Oh god,

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>So Aaron is a male cheerleader who tours in a

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 1>relationship with the use of queer jokes in this movie

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>is just horrible. But Aaron is cheating on her with

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of girls in college basically, and he's just

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>a dick. He tells her he doesn't believe in her.

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's juxtaposed with this creepy scene on a swing

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>or where Kirsten dues, Okay, I'm just gonna walk you

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>through this scene with Cliff, please. Kirsten Duns is on

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>a swing. She's just had a conversation with Eliza dish Coup.

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 1>She walks off, She's going to do some cheerleading thing,

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, Cliff swoops down twist.

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 1>He's been on the swing set the whole time. You're like,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. He starts to push her on the swing.

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>This is a sinister thing that perfect student children before

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>they kill them. Cliffs pushing her on the swing and

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>then just like pulls the swing back and then whispers

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>in her ear for what it's worth, I believe in you.

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>And she's like really, He's like yeah, he's just the

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and and then she that is supposed to like give

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>her the motivation to not play Giarize anymore. Like it's

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>so ridiculous. She should very obviously arrive at this point,

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>like this conclusion on her own. Just Cliff. They're using

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>him to like motivate her to be a better cheerleader.

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>But he's just like there plays the guitar, and then

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>he like feels very entitled to her, like whenever he

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>makes the mixtape as the Flowers, and then he finds

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>out that she has. I mean, it's not really a mixtape,

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:09.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a fully produced original song. Yeah, good, good point.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like Rebecca Black's Friday. It's like it's someone was

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>paid to do production on that. He just charged it

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:21.240
<v Speaker 1>on his parents charge car, like he did everything. They're drunk,

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, dude, when did we go to the studio?

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Were in a benefit? We're still fucked up. There's like

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 1>a full there's like drums. Either he plays all those

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 1>araments or he like hired a band. He hired a band,

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>he hired the Rebecca Black people to do it there.

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny and it's like one of my favorite

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>things that happens in movies is when someone composes an

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>original song and you can tell the movies like this

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a fucking hit, and it's just like, not,

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that's what this song is like where he's like, you're cheerier.

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, dude, can you see you if finger

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:05.399
<v Speaker 1>you and curius it does this like jamming, and she's

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 1>like this song is really good or like you're not

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>fooling us. She's jumping on the bed without a bra

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>like she's just like every all the stops are pulled

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>up to make this song seem presentable, and she conveniently

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>picked her pom poms up to dance to this bullshit.

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I did independent cheerleading to the

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>chagrin of everybody. Everybody's chagrin, and I have never once

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>while dancing picked up my well, let me get my

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 1>pom poms and really really turn this up right now.

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 1>This is shitty music, right, It's happened. I forgot how

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I forgot the music that the Toros and the Clover's

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 1>performed to at the end, and I was so I

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>was like rocked with anxiety of like, she's gonna dance

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to the song They're gonna do a cheer to the

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Rebecca black Friday song, like but thank god, they just

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>use jock jams, but I mean, yeah. My main thing

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>with the with the Cliff thing is he's there, he's entitled.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>He's kind of like random in terms of he's all

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>over the place. It turns where his character is. He

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>feels like a studio note and he shouldn't be there, Like,

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>there's just no need for that subplot. He's a p

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 1>s A to future parents to tell their daughters that

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 1>they love them so they're not susceptible to these random

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I believe in you kind of bullshit. Up. Tell your

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.839
<v Speaker 1>child you believe in them, so they're not out here

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>falling in love with people making stupid ass songs for

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>them at the mall and ship. Tell your child you

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>believe in them. Any man who can pose his original

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>music for you, that's a red flag. Somewhere on the Internet,

0:40:56.560 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of mix tapes about thinking like this

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 1>was like early I was dating the fun fun boy

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>is fun boy ever and he wrote a song about

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>how he liked me, and then I rejected him, and

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>then he wrote three songs about and he wrote one

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>of the songs I think I've played for you before.

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 1>It's called your Body is Dumb. Maggie Love. Okay, it's

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.240
<v Speaker 1>out of here. I can't even be here for that anymore.

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Your body is dumb. Give me this fuse email, lad Dress,

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 1>send a letter to his mom. Anyways, he's a father. Now,

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>should we get into the just enormous list of horribly

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>problematic things that get said and done? Yeah, let's do

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>your let's do your power listical All right, it's very

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:13.439
<v Speaker 1>two thousand. Ready for it to be very two thousand, boy,

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Starting with there's a scene in a locker room where,

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:20.959
<v Speaker 1>by the way, teen girls are undressing. They are in well,

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I an underwear. I thought that that was more tastily

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>done than most movies. I mean, the worst one that

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>comes to mind is carry Whenever Sissy Space. It is

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>just fully nude. And that doesn't know that that that

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 1>locker room scene has never taken place on Earth ever.

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's fully nude, groping their own titties in the shower.

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, in, yeah, I guess there are stalls. I

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 1>guess I just don't high schools have stalls. I don't

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 1>see the need to show teenage girls in next to

0:42:56.120 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>no clothing. I agree, especially when I said your leading movie,

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to add that extra layer of like, oh,

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>sexualized cheerleaders and oh they're taking their come home do better.

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 1>At least there's no I guess what I'm saying is

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>that there's no gratuitous, Like it's not as gratuitous as

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>most of these movies tend to be sure, but it's

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 1>still needless all the same. Um So, in that scene,

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>we have a number of girls calling each other sluts,

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 1>whors bitches, They're fat shaming each other. There are the

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>fun lines that, as a word smith myself I appreciated,

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 1>um Like, she puts the itch and bitch and she

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:44.360
<v Speaker 1>puts the horror and horrifying. Does pass the Bechdel test?

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Does spoiler? Good pass? Good pass? Gang? And then there's

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 1>also a weird moment where they're talking about Big Red

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 1>and how much of a bit she is and they

0:43:56.920 --> 0:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>call her yeah that Courtney and Whitney say she doesn't

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>have feelings, just testicles, right, which is just like bad writing,

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 1>as are most of these bads. Don't you know when

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't wear your feelings? Okoy, she doesn't have anger,

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>she has wisdom teeth there It's like, you know, this

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 1>invisible thing it's actually a body part well, since it's

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>testicle specifically, I guess they're saying like, oh, she's mannished,

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 1>she's manly because she does is not emotional. Yeah. Yeah,

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's just I didn't know what to do with

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that line either. I just put question marks. I I

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of those as well. Yeah. Um, then

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>they're doing some cheer practice is and there are some

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>male cheerleaders on every team. There's male cheerleaders, which I thought,

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and and there's a few bad jokes about it, but

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.399
<v Speaker 1>not half as many bad jokes as I thought there

0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 1>would be, except for one big one that is boy,

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I do like that. The male cheerleaders are

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>like they're present, but they're like mostly sidelined, like this

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>is a very female driven movie. They're around too, and

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 1>they're they're like on the team and on every team.

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>It seems like I don't know about cheerleading. I don't

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>know if that's normal. I just I didn't know. I

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't know. Yeah, so here's some lines

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>that some of them say, pinch some panties, someone slacking again?

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? And it doesn't sound good though?

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 1>And then do I look like a milkmaid because someone

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 1>feels like a cow. This is in reference to one

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 1>of them lifting up one of the women on the team.

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>That's somebody shaming stuff, right there. Body shame these women

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:47.439
<v Speaker 1>just because he's weak. Yeah, I wouldn't in the gym,

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.919
<v Speaker 1>I didn't lift myself. My job is to lift right

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's five extra pounds and I can't do that.

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Like this is your problem or whatever. Phil, Yeah, I'm

0:45:57.840 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>good to go with that. It sounds like some Phil

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 1>whip ship. The names are Jan and Lez of the male.

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Why are these names? I don't. This is a mess.

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 1>This is just a word jumble. Let's see. There's the

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>scene where during the tryouts, one of the girls is

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>trying out to Sweet Cherry Pie. She's very she's exty dance,

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of male gaze like shot like

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the camera is like in her asshole. Well not just

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>not just that either. The women in the scene are

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:38.280
<v Speaker 1>like one gags I'm like, you know what a woman's

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>body like this? But one goes and then the guys

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>are like, yeah, MI have bonar. I was like, we

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>don't don't need this, got it. Also during the tryout scene,

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:57.919
<v Speaker 1>there are various jokes made about people with disabilities and

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 1>like competing in the special Olympics and things like that.

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>There's also the Pipping guy, though you gotta there's the

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Pippin guy, so balances. That was like the only line

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I remember from the movie. Is this not the audition

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 1>for Pippin? You know it's not? Bro Yeah, in the

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>gymnasium there sucking bath Salty doesn't know where he is.

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>He also looked forty too, Where you thank you all

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 1>suspicious a forty year old dude, like, is this not

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:30.479
<v Speaker 1>the audition for Pippin? I'm supposed to be here? Must

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I go there? Trying out for Pippin? Another great place?

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 1>If we cut Cliff, we can really explore that you

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>know exactly exactly where? Yeah. So, Also at the tryout scene,

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:49.280
<v Speaker 1>there is a girl named Jamie who is Whitney's younger sister.

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the cheerleaders on the team want her

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 1>to be on the squad because of how small she

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 1>is and how easy she would be to lift up,

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 1>which again has some like body shaming and locations and

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 1>then just being weak implications. And then I think it's

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 1>jan who makes like a blowjob gesture towards like Jamie,

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 1>which again I don't know what. I don't know what's

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 1>even implied by twelve, Like what is he saying? That

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 1>was another thing that was unclear because he's making it

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>at tour, and I thought maybe he was being like nepotism,

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 1>but like, what does nepotism had to do with dick sucking?

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I hope in A and the and the few lines

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.720
<v Speaker 1>right before that he makes a comment about how again

0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:40.320
<v Speaker 1>this like twelve or thirteen year old girl goes down

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>or like does sexual stuff to get what she wants.

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like she's she's visibly twelve, it is.

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I think she went there. I was like Whitney went

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:55.879
<v Speaker 1>and got her nine year old sister. Yea. So there's

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of there's like problematic stuff, but like it's confusing.

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like Uncanny Valley stuff where you're just

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 1>like I think that I'm not okay with this, but

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't fully make sense. It was like at that

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 1>time where it was like we are this kind of

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>a movie, but we're gonna be talking about other stuff.

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna push it to the limit in every possible way.

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's like because this movie is like PG. Thirteen

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 1>or something, so I think it's trying to like navigate around,

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:30.359
<v Speaker 1>like it's trying to do some innuendos that just like

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't age well or never made sense. Like I'm not

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:36.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to show that line of the R because they

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:38.319
<v Speaker 1>know no one is going to go see that. If

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 1>it's an right, you know it's not gonna So they're like,

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 1>we want to get as close to an R. And

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 1>because this movie is for thirteen year old girls, right,

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>And that was like who who saw it? And who

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you know at the sleepover for a thirteen year old?

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, there's more. Okay. We've got Courtney saying about

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Missy that she looks like an uber insert slur for

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:06.800
<v Speaker 1>queer women here, and then she uses that word several

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>times in a in a hateful way throughout the movie.

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Torrance is brother to Torrence says, it's not my fault.

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 1>You're in love with a big gay cheerleader who doesn't

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>return your calls. Torrence says he's not gay, and then

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 1>he says, oh, so someone just made him become a cheerleader, okay,

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 1>And she's like he's just busy, and he's like, yeah,

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 1>busy scamming on guys and then that steam. It's like, actually,

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:42.879
<v Speaker 1>he's actually scamming on girls, lots of them, because there

0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:45.759
<v Speaker 1>were all these like I mean, and I wasn't sure

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that this movie wasn't above that cheap joke of just

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:51.880
<v Speaker 1>being like, he's a male cheerleader, he must be gay,

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you know. But then you see Aaron wake up at

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.480
<v Speaker 1>his dorm and he has both a Sugar Ray and

0:50:56.560 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a Matchbox twenty poster, and you're like, no, no, he

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 1>is straight, and a very bad kind of straight. He's

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the most sinister heterosexual there is. He's got both of

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:14.359
<v Speaker 1>the Devil's posters. He's a take a guitar out at

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:18.280
<v Speaker 1>a party kind of mother fart. He's that kind of straight.

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:22.120
<v Speaker 1>And then they put a villainous turtleneck on him. Later on,

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, no, no, yeah, bright Rent, he's

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:29.359
<v Speaker 1>a bad man. It's just bad. Also, that scene ends

0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:32.239
<v Speaker 1>with towards his brother calling her a bit, so that

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 1>was very cute. Um they put the yeah, they put

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:39.279
<v Speaker 1>the little brother. Okay, At one point in the movie

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 1>where I did laugh is where the brothers like it's

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 1>an emergency and then he farts. You gotta admit that

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 1>that's a funny joke. I laughed. Okay, that's crazy. How

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>sometimes a fart is better than anything you could write

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:06.319
<v Speaker 1>in five years. I should have never gotten that master's degree. No,

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>you could have just been like, I don't know what

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to put her. Write a kid named justin any farts? Okay.

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Next comes the big one from me where they're all

0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>in a car. The car scene, Yeah, the male cheerleaders

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Jan and Lez are talking about their sexuality and then

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Missy's like, well, what is your sexuality, which is you know,

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:31.479
<v Speaker 1>maybe not of her business but um and then let's

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 1>says Jan straight, Well, I'm controversial. Missy says, are you

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:42.400
<v Speaker 1>telling me you speak insert slur here? And then he's like,

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:47.759
<v Speaker 1>oh fluently. And then Missy proceeds to call Courtney and

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Whitney a slur and then okay, So to prove his straightness,

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Jan is Jan the strike guy. Jan goes on to

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 1>disc gribe how he molests cheerleaders. He's like, no, I'm

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:08.120
<v Speaker 1>super straight. I am a rapist. Like you're just like,

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Like he describes, well, do you have

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the specifics written? Now? I was horrified. It's like, I'm

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:20.279
<v Speaker 1>so straight, it's problematic. I'm so straight. I should be

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 1>in jail, Like, yeah, it's it's right, And then everyone

0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:30.399
<v Speaker 1>in the car is like, ha ha ha, yeah, you're

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 1>molesting her friends. Jam's like, no, Courtney is straight. I

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>know this because she doesn't wear underwear, and I can't

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 1>help if my digits slip occasionally. Okay, okay, number one,

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you digit an't gonna slip doing a chairlift. That is

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 1>not a thing. That's you intentionally doing it too. If

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you would be concentrating more on your form, you would

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:54.160
<v Speaker 1>be able to lift more and not worry about if

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:56.399
<v Speaker 1>anyone getined an extra founds and maybe keep your hands

0:53:56.400 --> 0:54:00.080
<v Speaker 1>in the right position. Yeah for maximum, When did Is

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 1>tweets at him, the finger tweeted at the actor another thing,

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:10.719
<v Speaker 1>it is so like weirdly on the nose though, to

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:14.000
<v Speaker 1>be like, no, I like it feels like a weirdly

0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 1>like it sounds like modern satire. To be like no,

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm like sis white dude, I'm a fucking criminal. He's like,

0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 1>this is not helping anyone. This is not And then

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:31.719
<v Speaker 1>the whole people are laughing about it. And then because

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 1>it's basically saying like, oh, she doesn't wear underwear, so

0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>she's asking for it, is what the movie is trying

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to stay here then, and it's also not logical that

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't wear underwear to it just like goes out

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>of the way to make one of the female characters

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 1>look dumb as fun. It's like, if you're cheerleading and

0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you're wearing underwear, not only are you

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:55.799
<v Speaker 1>wearing underwear, you're wearing bloomers on the underwear, So that

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.160
<v Speaker 1>part never matched for me. It's like, you're digits are

0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna slip, It's gonna slip in through or like come on, man,

0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 1>like what are you doing? Champ right? Jan was that

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 1>short for well, we should see it play out. We

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 1>see it play out a few semes later at the

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:18.239
<v Speaker 1>at the football game where he's doing the lift and

0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 1>then we see her reaction and she's like it almost

0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:25.799
<v Speaker 1>seems like she's enjoying it, which is like very and

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:27.839
<v Speaker 1>but then she like he lets her down and then

0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:30.239
<v Speaker 1>she kind of hits him, but we see him on

0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 1>screen assault her while they're cheering. And then there's another

0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 1>scene where I think it's Missy and one of the

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 1>cheerleaders male cheerleaders is like stretching her leg out and

0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 1>there's two guys that pass and the two football jocks

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 1>who have been like harassing the male cheerleaders the whole right,

0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and then they're like, maybe we should do in the

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 1>d because they're they're like looking at like, oh, they're

0:55:56.719 --> 0:56:00.200
<v Speaker 1>touching girls, and then the other one just as a

0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:03.360
<v Speaker 1>gay slur to the other one, and then the scene

0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:06.799
<v Speaker 1>is over, and that's a scene that exists forever. Yep,

0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I probably missed some, and there's I'm just gonna do

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:12.120
<v Speaker 1>a few more. Okay, so uh, there's a car wash

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:14.319
<v Speaker 1>scene where we see like a closeup of Eliza dis

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:18.760
<v Speaker 1>chest and then it's because it's her brother auggling her

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:22.560
<v Speaker 1>until he realized it and he's like, oh, but it

0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 1>means we have this very male gage shot of like

0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:26.840
<v Speaker 1>just a woman's breast you have. I mean, that whole

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 1>sequence is just like getting allegedly teen girls wet, even

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 1>though as with most of these movies that Kirsten Dunce

0:56:34.800 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 1>is and Kirson Dunce is the only legitimate teenager there's

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it's Kirson duns and a bunch of twenty seven year olds. Also,

0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>a quick fact check, a car wash is not a

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 1>good fundraiser. Oh did you do one? I'll buy Yourself.

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn thre onto his Savage Moments Part three, Holy Ship

0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:05.800
<v Speaker 1>have been attacks. I remember like in like elementary and

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 1>then junior high and even like my friends who like

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 1>cheered at like normal high schools and stuff like that

0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:14.439
<v Speaker 1>was just never. No one wants a bunch of teen

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.959
<v Speaker 1>girls washing their car for twenty dollars. No, and they're

0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 1>never in like it's so it's so movie to imply

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that all car washes are hot teens in bikinis, because

0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I did. I did that with the Key Club and

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:33.280
<v Speaker 1>we were wearing like three shirts extra really didn't make

0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 1>much money, did you sixty? And it was like a

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 1>twelve hour day, right, and it was all y'all's moms

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:42.480
<v Speaker 1>coming through to be nice. It was like moms and

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 1>neighbors being like, okay, but don't touch it. Bad idea,

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>bad for business. That's just a fact check. Yeah, thank you,

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:57.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you for them and their children, and so please

0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:01.600
<v Speaker 1>stop looking at them. Yeah. And then the last one,

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll say, there are more, but we're running out of

0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:09.160
<v Speaker 1>time is the choreographer Sparky whatever the funk is literally

0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:11.720
<v Speaker 1>everything he does, everything he said, every everything he does

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:18.000
<v Speaker 1>is just wildly horrible. Here's the thing with all of

0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 1>these moments. In some cases, the characters who are using

0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the homophobic slurs or who are using the language that's

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 1>like body shaming or slut shaming, they are framed as

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 1>being like bad, wrong people, like when it's the football

0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 1>players who are harassing people and stuff like that. But

0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:39.800
<v Speaker 1>in other cases, these things are being said by the

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 1>characters who are supposed to like it's supposed to be

0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>rooting for, like whenever Missy uses the various like homophobic slurs,

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:49.960
<v Speaker 1>or when they're all laughing along when the guy is

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:54.680
<v Speaker 1>admitting to assaulting his teammate. Yeah, t he And there's

0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 1>there's not much, just because I do want to get

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to the Clovers. But as for see, it's and again

0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like she her character suffers because of Cliff's presence.

0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:11.640
<v Speaker 1>So many suffer at the hands of Cliff, so many

0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:14.440
<v Speaker 1>because she starts out as like a pretty interesting you know,

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:16.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like she's she's a guff and I'm like, I'm

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:20.080
<v Speaker 1>on board. But you know, it's like and she and

0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 1>tore form of friendship, it's an unlikely friendship, but once

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Cliff starts to get too involved, she almost gets sidelined.

0:59:27.600 --> 0:59:31.479
<v Speaker 1>And she's only like serving as like, oh, Cliff said

0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that you've got nice boobs, and you're just like, man,

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 1>this is a waste of Elijah Douche first of all.

0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:40.720
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like their friendship gets sidelined kind of

0:59:40.800 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 1>until the very very end, which is a bummer. Yeah. Uh,

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:51.400
<v Speaker 1>And with that, let's talk about the Clovers, which I mean,

0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:56.480
<v Speaker 1>again it's uh, we really only know Isis in any

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 1>meaningful way played by Gabrielle Union, and she's I mean,

1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:03.880
<v Speaker 1>she's really fucking cool. Like I love that character, and

1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:06.960
<v Speaker 1>it's frustrating that you don't get to know her better

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<v Speaker 1>because there's space in the movie to do it, and

1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the movie just literally chooses not to do it, but

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<v Speaker 1>so much emotional depth if you're to like really concentrated

1:00:18.280 --> 1:00:21.240
<v Speaker 1>on the story behind them, Like there was really an

1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:25.600
<v Speaker 1>opportunity for that that they just let fall, right because

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, in most cases, when you're seeing i

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<v Speaker 1>mean fucking varsity blues and ship like that, if you

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<v Speaker 1>see the cheerleaders, they're like, it's a bunch of like

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<v Speaker 1>suburban white people, so like, just to give visibility to

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<v Speaker 1>this group of cheerleaders who are all people of color,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like, what's their experience? Like, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know more, and then the movie just like glasses over

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<v Speaker 1>that whole thing. Yeah, I mean, but there are a

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<v Speaker 1>few lines from from Isis when we do get to

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<v Speaker 1>see her, we get to see her almost always in

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<v Speaker 1>control of the situation. Sometimes that's aimed as her being

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<v Speaker 1>the villain, and then later on it you can see

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<v Speaker 1>her and tours starting to form like this captain's respect

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<v Speaker 1>when which you know captains will know she basically has respect.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a line where she's like, hey, you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>been stealing from us, but no longer I'm the captain,

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a captain. They also say do the right

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<v Speaker 1>thing over and over, and I'm like, are they talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this Mike Lee movie where he sometimes keeps being

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to do the right thing. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what you're saying? And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do the right thing. And then she does a little

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<v Speaker 1>wing and flashes her snaggle tooth. They're like, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on here? And then she goes to East Conda drives

1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:55.800
<v Speaker 1>once again three hours. I'm like, there's gotta be a

1:01:55.800 --> 1:02:00.720
<v Speaker 1>phone number, but also she drives three hours. It goes

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<v Speaker 1>to see Isis and like all the Clover cheerleaders and

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<v Speaker 1>offers her white savior daddy check and says, once again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do the right thing. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the funk is going on in this script? It's

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<v Speaker 1>so funny, A fun moment where one of the Clover's

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<v Speaker 1>calls Missy and Torrance buffies, which is fun because Aliza

1:02:25.680 --> 1:02:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Disku played Faith and Buffy the vampires Layer run around

1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:34.480
<v Speaker 1>this time, so fun. Fuck with her saying I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do the right thing. That further makes her into

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<v Speaker 1>the good person. Yes, very verbally saying she's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do the right thing. She's trying to be the right person,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're you're not letting her do the right thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a microaggression. Yeah, I do like Isis gives

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty concise response that I really like. She says.

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<v Speaker 1>When Kirsen Dunn comes with her white guilt check, Isis replies, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this hush money? All right, it's guilt money.

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<v Speaker 1>You pay our way in and you sleep better at

1:03:05.840 --> 1:03:07.920
<v Speaker 1>night knowing how your whole world was based on one big,

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<v Speaker 1>old fat lie. And then she tears the check up

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<v Speaker 1>and that's like a great cathartic moment. You're like, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking fun Kristen Dunn's dad we just saw for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in the last time in the movie, fucking daddy, like,

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here. And and then she you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pulls out the captain speaks. She's like, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be strong for my squad. I'm a captain. We're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we know the captain talk is strong in this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but I I mean, it's it's so it's so weird

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like, I don't know, like we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about earlier. I don't know how the movie is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>it wants us to feel about this scene, But watching

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<v Speaker 1>it now, you're you're I mean, I feel like we're

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<v Speaker 1>all like, tear the check up. Fuck that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think in two thousand, the way everything was then the

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<v Speaker 1>movie frames all the Clovers as the mean adversary is

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<v Speaker 1>that are causing problems and being mean. Yeah, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a quote about from Gabrielle Union about being in Bringing

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<v Speaker 1>On that I wanted to read to you is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like an insight of where she was at around

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<v Speaker 1>this time. She's also twenty eight in this movie, which

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, how is that possible. It's blacked out correct,

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<v Speaker 1>extremely it's why Okay, So she says about getting cast

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<v Speaker 1>in Bringing It On. Uh, she says, I wanted this

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleading movie Sugar and Spice, but they didn't go black

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<v Speaker 1>on any of their roles. I couldn't even audition for

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<v Speaker 1>Bringing On. The story is about cultural appropriation and how

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<v Speaker 1>the hard work of African Americans has been repackaged with

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<v Speaker 1>blonde hair and blue has the social justice of it

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<v Speaker 1>appealed to me, Which is great that that is what

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<v Speaker 1>she saw. But the fact, I mean, just even bringing

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<v Speaker 1>up that she wasn't allowed to audition for this other

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleading movie because they didn't quote unquote go black, is

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<v Speaker 1>like such an insight to where casting was then and

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<v Speaker 1>just like what her options were. Like, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so glad she was in Bringing It On, but that quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, fuck, this is such a problem, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a problematic movie with problematic parts, but this was

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<v Speaker 1>the best option, right, right was the option. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an advertising looking option on top of that, which is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you said, it just speaks to what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on at the time and like what the

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<v Speaker 1>reality of the film industry was. Fact then yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like has gotten better, it's fixed everything. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry everything everything. Thankfully we've resolved it as everything

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<v Speaker 1>is great. We got to check from daddy and it's

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<v Speaker 1>fixed and Finn. I mean, in general, I'm very glad

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<v Speaker 1>that the Clover's win and that the screenwriter had the

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<v Speaker 1>foresight to like because in every way they're the superior

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<v Speaker 1>team because they've never plagiarized anyone. They've earned everything they've gotten,

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<v Speaker 1>and like they're a better I mean, they have the

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<v Speaker 1>better routine every single time. So I'm glad that they got.

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<v Speaker 1>In my head, I was like they got School of

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<v Speaker 1>rocked where where like the ragtag team of young white

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<v Speaker 1>people lose and and it's fun to watch, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wish that there were more to criticize because I wish

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<v Speaker 1>we knew more about these characters in general, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>just like not we just don't know enough about the

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<v Speaker 1>movies should be told from their point of view, like

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<v Speaker 1>they should have been a different script, different story told

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<v Speaker 1>from a different perspective. On that note, like we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot about them, and she didn't know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about them, but the check when she got the

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<v Speaker 1>check from her dad, like she bullied her dad into

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<v Speaker 1>getting the dad's company to write a check. So what

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<v Speaker 1>could she possibly have told him to tell them to

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<v Speaker 1>write the check? Like, Hey, I need a check for

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<v Speaker 1>some some black girls that my daughter was stealing from cheerleading? Wise,

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<v Speaker 1>can you give me eight thousand dollars so they can

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<v Speaker 1>get to flour? Like what could you have told them?

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<v Speaker 1>Like and that's just another that like you just walk

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<v Speaker 1>like this guy just has the privilege to walk into

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<v Speaker 1>his employer and be like I need money to get

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<v Speaker 1>a team of people to Nationals And his company was

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<v Speaker 1>just like is your kid in No, I guess no

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<v Speaker 1>follow up questions for like this is not my child squad,

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<v Speaker 1>this is random kids three hours south and they were

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<v Speaker 1>still cool with it. And that like Tor was expecting

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<v Speaker 1>to just come in with a check that clearly, I says,

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<v Speaker 1>would have no idea where this money is from. She

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know who Krison does dad is. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who Krison does dad is, and that Kars and Kness

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<v Speaker 1>was coming from this place of just like well you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want it, right and then like she was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this? Who is this from? Like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like her dad would like work for Enron or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like that, there does so much is off for en

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<v Speaker 1>Ron an interesting choice. I would say if I was

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<v Speaker 1>an isiss position, I would have crumpled up the thing

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<v Speaker 1>in front of her and thrown it and then when

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<v Speaker 1>she left, moved it out deposited Like, well, I made

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<v Speaker 1>my point, Like she won't know, Like what's she going

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<v Speaker 1>to know? Yeah, veryone's not going to miss eight thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>She's never gonna find out if I did it or not. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I did like about this movie, and it

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<v Speaker 1>also brought up different like I mean it liked it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like, Uh, was that you so infrequently get to

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<v Speaker 1>see young girl being athletic in any way on screen

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<v Speaker 1>and getting to see there's a lot of really athletic routines.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's like a lot of behind the scenes talk

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<v Speaker 1>of like all the main cast of the of this

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<v Speaker 1>movie had to go to Cheercamp together. There's some really

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<v Speaker 1>cute behind the znes PAGs of like Karson doesn't Gabriela

1:09:05.280 --> 1:09:09.320
<v Speaker 1>union stretching and like being friends and it's cute, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, getting to see girls be athletic is

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<v Speaker 1>not something you get to see in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>teen movies really ever. And so it's cool because I

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I remember in junior high seeing like these

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<v Speaker 1>routines and being like, oh, that's so cool and like

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<v Speaker 1>going home and like fucking loser dancing it out at

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<v Speaker 1>my house, which is like, I mean, it's like, these

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<v Speaker 1>movies do affect you, and it it made me wish that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there were more movies that you got to

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<v Speaker 1>see girls be athletic in different ways because you're only

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I was younger, I really wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be a dancer, and I'm sure that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that reason was because that was how I had seen

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<v Speaker 1>girls be athletic and colt and like popular culture is

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<v Speaker 1>that you're dancing, your cheering. You can only do a

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<v Speaker 1>few different things. And it's like men, like there should

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<v Speaker 1>be more movies about girls playing sports and like doing

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<v Speaker 1>other athletics. It because there's so few options for for

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<v Speaker 1>for stuff like that. So there's like five thousand movies

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<v Speaker 1>about men playing football and like winning the game, ten

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<v Speaker 1>movies about women's sports teams period. I love movies about

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<v Speaker 1>when the boys win the game at the last minute. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the best genre. On that note, I like that

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<v Speaker 1>the movie showed the athleticism of cheerleading. Yes, people a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the time think of cheerleading is just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just shaking pom poms and dancing and shaking your

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<v Speaker 1>butt or whatever. But like my senior project was on

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleading injuries, and cheerleading is like the number two catastrophic sport.

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<v Speaker 1>It's after football, and football they were a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>like there's like a ton of athleticism required the cheerleading.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that this movie really showcase that. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like and getting to see again, I appreciated getting to

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<v Speaker 1>see full routines too, Like that was really cool. And there,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's still so much where if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to fall down the rabbit hole of how professional cheerleaders

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<v Speaker 1>are treated now, it's like such a wild thing where

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<v Speaker 1>most of them aren't unionized, most of them are paid

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<v Speaker 1>like minimum wage and like professional team cheer like for football,

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<v Speaker 1>like Major American football. You know, where the football players

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<v Speaker 1>are making millions and millions of dollars, there are some

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleaders out there who were making nothing and getting injured

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<v Speaker 1>like at a comparable rate. So it's still like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>sport that isn't being taken seriously, And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it is cool to just see women being athletic

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<v Speaker 1>and kicking ass like they don't require a cheerleading coach

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<v Speaker 1>to have any kind of training. Has demonstrated by Mrs

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<v Speaker 1>spirit Fingers. He just lets spark you mcgorakan or whoever

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<v Speaker 1>he made was show up convictions that they gave two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars to don't do that. My name is Spanky.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, coo coo, coo coo cool, We'll get the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars. Kirsten's dad is getting it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's got it. Uh do anything else? Get not? Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've only scratched the surface of this wild,

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<v Speaker 1>wild movie, but there's so much here. Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's it is cool that you see the athleticism of cheerleading,

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<v Speaker 1>that you see cheerleading has a sport being taken seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>You see a female driven story where the women are

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<v Speaker 1>driving the narrative. There you see a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>personality types among the women that you see, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like usually not something that you Yet there's women in

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<v Speaker 1>conflict and you understand why, which almost never happens sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>and then sometimes it's Courtney and Whitney being mean for

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<v Speaker 1>no reason, right right, I mean, I guess I was

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<v Speaker 1>more talking about like the tour. Missy tore in isis like,

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<v Speaker 1>share are some female conflicts where you're like, these people

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<v Speaker 1>are very different and I understand why they do not agree,

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<v Speaker 1>such as tours stealing constantly and she's like I know, no, AB,

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<v Speaker 1>because she's like I do. Yeah. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>all I had sick, all right, yeah, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>anything else? I think that we covered all the points

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<v Speaker 1>and aired all of my grievances. That's why we're here.

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<v Speaker 1>This movie definitely passes the Bechdel tests at a million

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<v Speaker 1>billion times over, which is great. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>exchanges are like you're a stupid slut, you dumb bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then the other girls like yes, and we're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's technically passes flood match capital. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>conversations are you know about cheerleading and training and their

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<v Speaker 1>goals and you should take a science class. No, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so handle passes Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's rate on our

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<v Speaker 1>nipple scale. Let's do it sero to five nipples based

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<v Speaker 1>on the representation of women. Um, I think I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yes, we know it's from two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>all the problematic things that come with that, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a two I suppose, doting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>points for all the problematic ship that happens and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it should have been an entirely different movie

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<v Speaker 1>told from the point of view of Isis and her

1:14:31.320 --> 1:14:33.920
<v Speaker 1>clover squad, basing it on the movie that we are

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<v Speaker 1>presented with. I'll give it to nipples. Didn't mention the

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<v Speaker 1>pretty nice moment at the very end with Les and

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<v Speaker 1>another like unnamed male cheerleader at Nationals and they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>good job out there, and the other one's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you too cool, and then it's like, I guess they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kiss later. I don't know, but like, but that

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<v Speaker 1>comes at the end of such a long string of

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<v Speaker 1>like homophobia and just horrible nous that I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a nice moment, but remember all the other stuff. Movie. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so two nipples and I'll give both to Gabriel Union. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go two and a half. Yeah. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>there needs to be such a move towards the women

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<v Speaker 1>of color in this movie, because that is not just

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<v Speaker 1>like the right the doing the right thing, if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's the more interesting story is on the

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<v Speaker 1>conflict between these two teams, like fuck the romance subplots

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<v Speaker 1>like a shoehorn in later. The interesting parts of this

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<v Speaker 1>movie are these white girls are stealing from these black

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<v Speaker 1>girls because they feel entitled to do so, and the

1:15:48.120 --> 1:15:51.320
<v Speaker 1>conflict that ensues there, Like that is the interesting part

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie. I think that there's so much more there,

1:15:54.360 --> 1:15:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and there's more interesting story, there's more message there, and

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<v Speaker 1>just getting to know the black characters in this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is such an important thing that just didn't happen. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a couple of lines and then we get forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes of Cliff like, give me a fucking break.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't focus on the characters we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on. It doesn't give the screen time to the

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<v Speaker 1>characters that we need to know I would like to know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, It's like we know isis sort of, but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't like. The characters that she's surrounded by are

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<v Speaker 1>basically indistinguishable because we only meet them once or twice,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it yeah, I mean, on and on that front,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very frustrating. I am glad that you get to

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<v Speaker 1>see women in conflict in a way that makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the time. I'm glad that you get

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<v Speaker 1>women with different opinions to some different personalities. You get

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<v Speaker 1>to see them being athletic. There. There's there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of good things going on, but there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fat that could be trimmed in favor of a story

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<v Speaker 1>that is better and more interesting and just it makes

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<v Speaker 1>more sense for this movie to be. Uh So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do two and a half. I give one and a

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<v Speaker 1>half to Isis, I'll eve her hanging with the last half,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm gonna give the last one to tours

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<v Speaker 1>Mom because she should take a science class. I will

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<v Speaker 1>give this movie. I would say two nipples and like

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<v Speaker 1>a hair, you know, two nipples and an ingrown hair.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like one point. I did like that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a cheerleading movie as well. It told my interests um.

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<v Speaker 1>I did like that it had a lot of women

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<v Speaker 1>and more women than men. And I did like that

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<v Speaker 1>it was a movie where ultimately, like if you watched it,

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<v Speaker 1>you could see that the women of color were in

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<v Speaker 1>the right Like if you really like Waited Past, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're little narrative, you could really see what was going

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<v Speaker 1>on and then they want at the end. I liked

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<v Speaker 1>that to know end. But you know, for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why we've already discussed, like if you

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it doesn't hold up. You look back on

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<v Speaker 1>it and you're like, wow, this was this movie was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be something and missing that mark. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna give all of my all my nipples

1:18:07.080 --> 1:18:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to the clover squad ahead and do that. The ingrown hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody else can fight over that. Yeah. This, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>what happens with this movie is it becomes one of

1:18:16.360 --> 1:18:19.760
<v Speaker 1>those stepping stone movies of like it did not do

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<v Speaker 1>what it thought it was doing, and let whoever makes

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<v Speaker 1>the next cheerleading movie learn from it, learn from its

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<v Speaker 1>strengths and weaknesses, and then we can just move on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, because it still kind of did characterize

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleaders in a certain kind of way is dumb, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like you need to like you have academic benchmarks,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to pass past high school. Stupid, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a thing, right, totally. Well, Maggie, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for drawing us. Where can you give it up?

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<v Speaker 1>For Maggie? Where can people follow you online? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have anything you would like to plug. Yes, I am

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and Instagram. Maggie may haa haas Maggie spelled

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<v Speaker 1>A y e h a h a um plan c

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<v Speaker 1>at the Park Jamie and I show they put on

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<v Speaker 1>right here in Los Angeles, I mean Sam Angeles. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was not that funny. Yes it was with with

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<v Speaker 1>other past guests of the show, including Ever Maynard. And yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you again so much for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Give it up for yourself, give it up for Aristotle US,

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<v Speaker 1>and give it up for the Ruby. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone at the Ruby. And uh yeah, thank thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming. A great night, lad