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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two.

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Speaker 2: On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show,

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Speaker 2: we will take you to the NFL owners meetings in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis coming up here in about twenty minutes. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback. And yes, there

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Speaker 2: is going to be a vote on the Tush push

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Speaker 2: today or tomorrow, trying to get the requisite owners the

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Speaker 2: number that you need to be able to get rid

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Speaker 2: of the Tush push. And I do think that the

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Speaker 2: NFL wants to do that. I think they're modifying language

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Speaker 2: here and that's why they tabled it the last time

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Speaker 2: they all got together, because the commissioner is not going

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Speaker 2: to have you vote on something that he knows is

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Speaker 2: not going to pass, and that's why they tabled it. Now,

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Speaker 2: you do sort of the backroom dealings here, you talk

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Speaker 2: to some of the owners. Maybe there's data out there

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Speaker 2: that talks about potential injuries. The language in the Tush

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Speaker 2: push is what I was told about yesterday, that they

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Speaker 2: needed to clean it up, modify it, and the latest

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Speaker 2: installment of what the language will be they've taken out

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Speaker 2: of paragraph. But we'll talk to Albert Breer also flag football.

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Speaker 2: They're going to vote on that. I don't get this.

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Speaker 2: I'm missing something because they're Okay, the NFL was really

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Speaker 2: proactive in getting flag football into the LA Olympics. From

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Speaker 2: what I'm told, a vote on whether to allow NFL

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Speaker 2: players to participate in flag football in the Olympics expected

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Speaker 2: to pass at the meeting today. This, according to Adam Schefter,

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Speaker 2: got to have at least twenty four of the owners

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Speaker 2: twenty four to thirty two, and then you have to

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Speaker 2: negotiate with the NFL Players Association. The resolution on Olympic

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Speaker 2: flag football participation is, you're going to allow one player

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Speaker 2: on each team to try to qualify to play.

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Speaker 3: For the national team.

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Speaker 2: So there's only one player in the NFL who will

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Speaker 2: play for Team USA from what I'm understanding, and that

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Speaker 2: if somebody wants to play who is from Canada, somebody

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Speaker 2: is from England or South Africa or Australia and they

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Speaker 2: play in the NFL, then they're going to give them

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to do that. Okay, unless it's a marquee player.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't care less than an NFL player is going

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Speaker 2: to play in the NFL. So permission for any player

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Speaker 2: under NFL contract to participate in tryouts, a limit of

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Speaker 2: one player per NFL team on each national team participating. Okay,

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Speaker 2: if I'm the Dolphins owner, am I letting Tyreek Hill play?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Am I going to let Joe Burrow play?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: I mean I get it.

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Speaker 2: You want to grow the sport around the world by

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Speaker 2: playing flag football. You want boys and girls to be

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Speaker 2: playing flag football around the world. Okay, and that's that's

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Speaker 2: the endgame here. This is like, look at us, the

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Speaker 2: NFL and flag football. Okay, it's one player for Team USA.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who that's going to be. And if

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Speaker 2: you're an owner, are you going to allow that player

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Speaker 2: to play? I like how they talk about, you know,

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Speaker 2: salary cap credit for any player who's injured, a purchase

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: We don't need NFL players in the Olympics playing flag football. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you said every country had an NFL quarterback plan

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Speaker 2: for him, okay, I'm interested. Other than that, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: care less about this, But man, is this an initiative

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Speaker 2: for the NFL. You get to try out for the

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Speaker 2: Olympics with flag football? I would rather let the flag.

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Speaker 2: Football players play. This is what they do, this is

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Speaker 2: what they developed. This should be them playing and showcasing

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Speaker 2: the sport. I don't needed gimmicky. Oh who's playing? I

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Speaker 2: don't know, Tank Dell Okay, I don't care. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Albert Breer about this. And of course the Toush

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Speaker 3: Say good morning.

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Speaker 2: affiliates around the country. Big Night tonight. I got the

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Speaker 2: party bus parked outside. I stocked it with beer, nothing else,

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Speaker 2: although a couple of the back room guys apparently brought

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Speaker 2: bus if we win. On the way back, champagne, but

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Speaker 2: that's it. We're not gonna have liquor going down because

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. The happy hour is hours. It's from

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Speaker 2: four to six, and then the ceremony doesn't start till seven.

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Speaker 2: So that means if you get there it's four to seven,

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Speaker 2: that you're going to be drinking.

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Speaker 6: Yeah see, I know from past experience that it's definitely

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Speaker 6: a ceremony long enough that your buzz wears off and

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to limit the collateral damage for the show.

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Speaker 3: That's not a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think if you have maybe it's a

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Speaker 2: two drink maximum, not a two drink minimum, because there's

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Speaker 2: a couple of guys in the back, including Dylan that

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Speaker 3: Yes, don So what's that.

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Speaker 7: Must have happened between six and seven? Is there a

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Speaker 7: red carpet pregame show that we don't know about, Like,

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Speaker 7: that's a full hour to wait around. Yeah, have your

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Speaker 7: little appetize and drinks and mingle. Then they should be

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Speaker 7: able to go right into to your seat and get

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Speaker 3: I don't remember it being this hour.

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Speaker 2: That was just a you kind of get from the

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Speaker 2: reception cocktail to your seat. It's not a very far walk,

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Speaker 2: you know, it'll take you about five minutes to get there.

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Speaker 2: But six to seven. I don't know what happens from

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Speaker 2: six to seven, but I know from four to six

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Speaker 2: it's appetizers. Oh, this is this is Fritzy is so excited.

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Speaker 2: Nobody loves apps the way you do.

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Speaker 7: I love that we were hanging out right by the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he would have to come to us first.

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Speaker 2: It was really sad. It was if you noticed it,

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Speaker 2: waiters and waitresses, Fritzy and a couple other guys were

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Speaker 2: just grabbing and then you build up, you know, some

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Speaker 2: got to take what you wanted and then get some

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Speaker 3: Didn't have to go very far.

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Speaker 4: And technically you're supposed to only take one.

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Speaker 7: When you start taking three or four of them and

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Speaker 7: there's only like nine of them on the plate, that's

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Speaker 7: probably rude.

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Speaker 2: We have Hockey tonight, we have NBA Tonight. You have

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Speaker 2: Panthers at the Hurricanes and the Timberwolves at the Thunder,

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Speaker 2: and looking at the point spreads the Thunder healthy seven

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Speaker 2: and a half point favorite, and then the next when

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Speaker 2: they play the Pacers will be a four and a

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Speaker 2: half point favorite as well. People will talk about, oh

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Speaker 2: there's no marquee team in the NBA finals. You know

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Speaker 2: the Knicks used to be or they sometimes get presented

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Speaker 2: as a marquee team.

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Speaker 3: They're an entertaining team.

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Speaker 2: You have the big market of course with New York,

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Speaker 2: smaller markets in comparison with Minnesota, OKC in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I watch, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't care what the ratings are or they're worried about

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Speaker 2: the ratings. I mean, that's all nonsense for you know,

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Speaker 2: TV executives, network executives, league commissioners.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't care less. Either want to watch you or

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Speaker 3: you don't. That's all.

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Speaker 2: But I do like that you get a couple of

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Speaker 2: these younger players getting the platform, getting the stage. And

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Speaker 2: ant Man was here last year. Okay, see with Shay Gilges,

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Speaker 2: this will be you know, maybe the first time some

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Speaker 2: people a lot of people watch him play and this

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Speaker 2: team play, and then you're gonna have Jalen Brunson, who

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Speaker 2: was ready for this moment, and then we'll see what

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Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton has in store. But you know you're gonna

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Speaker 2: watch Indiana. Then you're gonna go who do I know here?

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Speaker 2: Probably not many players, but watch them play. They are

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Speaker 2: they're efficient. Now once again, this isn't Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: come in, honey. Watch the pacers be efficient, watch them

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Speaker 2: spread the floor. Wow, they make the extra pass. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's not anything exciting. You know, they don't lead the

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Speaker 2: league in highlights there. But if you love basketball, then

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Speaker 2: you could appreciate that. I'm not saying it's for everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's not sexy at all. New York will be fun

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Speaker 2: because of it's the Garden and those who will show up,

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Speaker 2: and that crowd is ready to go, The city is

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Speaker 2: ready to go. But Indiana is a really good team,

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Speaker 2: and you know here, this is what it'll come down to.

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Speaker 2: Indiana has a great bench, and if their starters aren't

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Speaker 2: playing well, that bench comes in and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you know they can lift up the team or keep

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Speaker 2: them competitive.

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Speaker 3: The Knicks are going to play.

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Speaker 2: Six players, seven players maybe, and you know this might

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Speaker 2: be a war of attrition. If I'm Indiana, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and I'm gonna make you go the

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Speaker 2: entire time. And then we bring in reinforcements off the bench,

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Speaker 2: and you have an experience. You have two experienced coaches here.

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Speaker 2: You know, Rick Carlile's won a title before. Tom Thibodeau

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Speaker 2: So Shay Gilgis is not an exciting player. He is

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Speaker 2: going to put up great numbers. Amp Man is an

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Speaker 2: exciting player, and you know that's what we're watching. There'll

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Speaker 2: be some players where you go, he's pretty good. He's

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Speaker 2: a lot better than I thought. Oh damn, Rudy Gobert

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Speaker 2: is there. Oh that's the guy that Dan makes fun

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Speaker 2: of them all the time, the guy with four Defensive

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Speaker 2: Player of the Year awards. Doesn't that make you an

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Speaker 2: automatic Hall of Famer. Yes, it's got it right, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like Ben Wallace, dang well, Yes.

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Speaker 8: If you don't love teams, it is. If you don't

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Speaker 8: love teams at jack a ton of threes only the

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Speaker 8: Timberwolves are top ten in the league, remaining in the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: Three point attempts this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're kind of like a bad NBA team taking threes.

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Speaker 2: We're zero for five with the Sports Emmys and we

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Speaker 2: could go for six here tonight.

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Speaker 3: Just keep shooting. Yeah, that's what we do.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, But I think this playoff run is important for

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Speaker 9: the NBA because now you're developing new stars on the

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Speaker 9: biggest stage. There's no Steph, there's no Giannis, there's no Joker,

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Speaker 9: there's no Lebron, there's no KD. So now you can

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Speaker 9: have new stars on the biggest stage. Not in the

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Speaker 9: conference semifinals. Two new stars are going to be in

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Speaker 9: the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I know what's gonna happen, that this is

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Speaker 2: gonna be a negative and nobody's gonna watch and ratings

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Speaker 2: will be down, and I just watch, you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't want somebody telling me to watch or not watch.

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Speaker 3: You know this. You either want to watch it or

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Speaker 3: you don't.

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Speaker 6: Yes, these numbers only matter when comparing them to w

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Speaker 6: NBA numbers. See the only time that those numbers actually matter. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls here, Jimmy and Tampa. Hi, Jimmy,

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Speaker 2: what's on your own today?

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Speaker 10: Going?

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Speaker 4: And Dan?

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Speaker 10: What's up?

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Speaker 11: Boys?

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Speaker 10: And Hello Fritzy. I had two comments for you, Dan.

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Speaker 10: The second one was yesterday with the the NFL flag.

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Speaker 10: My kids play and she's a girl, she plays quarterback

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Speaker 10: stuff like that. And I don't know, just a shout

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Speaker 2: There all right, thank you, Jimmy a powerhouse. Yeah, of

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Speaker 2: course I think it's great. But let the flag football

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Speaker 2: players play in the Olympics. They're trying to gimmick this up, like,

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Speaker 2: oh man, there's gonna be an NFL player out there,

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Speaker 2: unless it's a marquee player. I couldn't care less. Mike

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Speaker 2: in La, Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Hey, Dan and Fritzy. You know, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 11: Fritzy real quick, that's a backhanded acknowledgement there, you understand

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Speaker 11: the moment. But first I wanted to say, as an

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Speaker 11: to propose, you know, to the league, why don't we

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Speaker 11: crack down also on assisting the tackler, you know, for

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Speaker 11: a player that makes first contact on the tackler. Everyone

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Speaker 11: wants to just stop and see if he can.

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Speaker 2: No, no, Ashton gents would never be brought down. If

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Speaker 2: that was the case, he would have rushed for thirty

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Speaker 2: five hundred yards. Hey, only one one tackler per runner. No, no,

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Speaker 2: we can't do that. Thank you, Mike, Jason and Florida.

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Speaker 2: Hi Jason, what's on your mind? Hey Jason, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Jays Curtis and Illinois. Hi Curtis, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I want a DP Good luck tonight.

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Speaker 12: Regarding the flag football, I really like the NFL's initiative

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Speaker 12: Like I love watching my son play it so he

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Speaker 12: can learn the game. But in terms of it being

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Speaker 12: an Olympic sport, it just drives me nuts for the

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Speaker 12: fact that you're going to take not even close to

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Speaker 12: the best players and put them in a sport. It'd

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Speaker 12: be in my mind like if the MLB wanted to

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Speaker 12: expand the game and draw more attention to it having

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Speaker 12: t ball in the Olympics.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all for inclusion different things. You know, there

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Speaker 2: was break dancing in Paris. I've been a proponent for

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Speaker 2: the Olympics. You know, take chances on these things. But

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Speaker 2: the NFL is great at making money. This is what

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Speaker 2: this is about, not necessarily about the Olympics. It's about

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Speaker 2: spreading the word about flag football. And if you have

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Speaker 2: an NFL player playing flag football in the Olympics, then

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Speaker 2: you'll get more intention on this. You want to grow

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Speaker 2: the sport around the world. Flag football is wonderful, But

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Speaker 2: just because one player is playing for Team USA and

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Speaker 2: that's it, it doesn't make me want to go out

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Speaker 2: of my way to go let me watch that player play.

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Speaker 2: I'm more interested. And if you've seen flag football, competitive

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Speaker 2: flag football, it seems like everybody's around six to one,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five or one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: pounds and they are all quick.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin, a.

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Speaker 9: Lot of Roscoe parishes out there.

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Speaker 8: There's no room for Helodi, Nada, no, no, no. I'm

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Speaker 8: watching it right now. I'm watching USA versus Italy and

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Speaker 8: it's like a mad scramble. It's reminiscent of like a

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Speaker 8: in all different ways, and like you said, everyone's about

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Speaker 8: five eleven to six to one, about one hundred and

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Speaker 2: And they do these seven on seven drills. When you

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Speaker 2: go to camps, you know, for kids wide receivers and quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: it'll be quick pace, it'll be fun. But the NFL

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Speaker 2: they're hell bent on making sure. You know, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have an NFL player play on Teavy. Let's say, alrighty,

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Speaker 2: let's go.

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Speaker 3: Who's with me?

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Speaker 2: No Fey Albert Breer will join us from the owners meetings.

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Speaker 2: NFL owners meetings taking place in Minneapolis. Albert Breers the

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Speaker 2: what's the headline today? What's the headline going to be

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Speaker 2: coming out of the owners meetings?

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Speaker 4: Well, today it's gonna be the Olympics.

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Speaker 14: Tomorrow it'll be what happens with the tush push and

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Speaker 14: playoff seating. I think the Olympic thing is gonna sail through,

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Speaker 14: and I think that there's a lot of big picture

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Speaker 14: things that the owners are thinking about there. You know,

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Speaker 14: as you know Dan, like football is a tough sport

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Speaker 14: to export, you know, if you're trying to get kids

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Speaker 14: of infrastructure that goes into building it up and trying

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Speaker 14: to legitimize flag football has been the NFL's way of

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Speaker 14: trying to get around that. And you know, they're trying

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Speaker 14: It's a way to engage young girls and try to

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Speaker 14: the tackle version overseas. So that's an initiative that's that's

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Speaker 14: been a long standing one for the league. And I

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Speaker 14: think they're probably gonna vote things, so it'll get interesting

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Speaker 14: when we figure out who actually would go. But I

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Speaker 14: Tush push is going to be voted on, and I

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Speaker 14: think that that one the Commissioner of the League office

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Speaker 14: really want to get that through. Whether or not it

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Speaker 14: the air. My guess would be they pushed something through,

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Speaker 14: but they have adjusted that. The Packers proposal has been

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Speaker 14: they're setting the stage for twenty twenty six. I don't

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Speaker 14: know that after only having a handful of teams supporting

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Speaker 2: What role do the Eagles play in the Tush push.

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Speaker 4: They've been pretty aggressive and fighting it, you know.

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Speaker 14: Hollie Roseman stood up at the owners meeting in March

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Speaker 14: and basically said that, well, like, if you say this

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Speaker 14: injury data, and there really isn't injury data. And what

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Speaker 14: have one based on the posture of the quarterback on

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Speaker 14: because that's one argument, and then teams that are for

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Speaker 4: It's it's not a football play, it's a rugby play.

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Speaker 14: So, you know, like the Eagles have been steadfast and

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Speaker 14: feeling like they're being targeted here and feeling like this

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Speaker 14: is only an issue because they've gotten so good at it,

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Speaker 14: and they think it's a bad precedent for the league

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Speaker 14: to set when one team gets really good at one

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Speaker 14: thing and it's deemed unfair that now you can, you know,

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Speaker 14: find a way to get it taken out of the game.

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Speaker 4: At the same time, if you go back.

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Speaker 14: To two thousand and four, there was a rule in

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Speaker 14: the books that prevented all pushing and pulling of offensive teammates,

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Speaker 14: and that got repealed for reasons that had nothing to

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Speaker 14: do with what Philly's doing. The reason why was because

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Speaker 14: downfield blocks have become harder and officiate and delineating whether

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Speaker 14: a lot that's going into it. Again, the Eagles were

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Speaker 2: Let me go back to the Olympics, because I said

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Speaker 2: that I get what the NFL wants. They want expansion,

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Speaker 2: and they're not going to do expansion where you're playing

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Speaker 2: having NFL teams in different cities. How you grow football,

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Speaker 2: You grow football with flag football because all you need

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Speaker 2: they want to compete with basketball. Globally you get boys

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Speaker 2: and girls playing. I'm all for all of that, varsity sport,

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Speaker 2: all for that. I just don't get the gimmick of

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Speaker 2: who's an NFL player who cares.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, And I don't know, I mean, and I'm I'm

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Speaker 14: skeptical that it's gonna even like work that way.

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Speaker 4: Can I tell you a personal story having this one day?

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Speaker 3: And sure?

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Speaker 14: So Back when I was in college at Ohio State,

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Speaker 14: So then you know, we kind of like we're like, well,

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Speaker 14: what happened? What would happen if we entered this like

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Speaker 14: Nike Elite League, right, And so we got.

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Speaker 4: Our freaking doors blown off playing in this Nike Elite League.

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Speaker 14: And what we found out and doing that was like

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Speaker 14: like this flag league, Like it wasn't like football. It

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Speaker 14: was a different sport altogether. There were laterals and pitches

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Speaker 14: and it was and it had nothing to do with size,

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Speaker 14: and it's just like it like it's a it's a

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Speaker 14: different thing altogether if you're really doing it. So you know,

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Speaker 14: like I understand the concept of putting NFL players out there,

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Speaker 14: I just wonder if the juice is worth the squeeze,

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Speaker 14: you know what I mean, Like, Okay, so you get

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Speaker 14: a little more attention on it by putting NFL players

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Speaker 14: out there, but are they the best players in the

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Speaker 14: world at that specific thing? If you're giving people five

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Speaker 14: years to train for this. Are you saying like an

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Speaker 14: NFL player will be ready in a month to go

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Speaker 14: and compete? And if I'm a team like I look

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Speaker 14: at that and say, like, that's one of the guys

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Speaker 14: getting ready for training camp. So instead of, you know,

446
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Speaker 14: getting ready for the riggers of an NFL season, he's

447
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Speaker 14: going to be doing something completely different than preparing for

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Speaker 14: tackle football. I it's just it's complicated for all of

449
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Speaker 14: those reasons, and I think the risk here would be

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Speaker 14: are you just turning this into a freak show?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like it's just like, okay, like, come.

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Speaker 14: Watch the come watch the two hundred and fifty pounds

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Speaker 14: tight end go out and and and and play against

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Speaker 14: a bunch of one hundred and eighty pound guys from France,

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Speaker 14: you know what I mean? Like, is that what we're

456
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Speaker 14: doing here? And is that good for the long term

457
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Speaker 14: viability of flag football as a sport?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I think those are all questions that are worthy, and

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Speaker 14: I don't know one way or the other. I'm not

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Speaker 14: saying I have all the answers, but I think those

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Speaker 14: are all viable questions.

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Speaker 2: Talking Albert Breer the Monday Morning quarterback joining us from

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Speaker 2: the owners meetings the Rock party contract. A lot of

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Speaker 2: times we get the final number and we go wow,

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Speaker 2: but then you break it down and you get guaranteed money.

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Speaker 2: I know there's no trade clause in there. What was

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Speaker 2: the strategy on both sides here to get to this number?

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Speaker 14: So I think there were there were three clamps that

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Speaker 14: they were working off of. You know, because the one

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Speaker 14: thing that the Niners established right away is we're not

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Speaker 14: going to be breaking records here, like that's that.

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Speaker 4: Can't be the goal of this negotiation.

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Speaker 14: And so you know, party side that basically came back

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Speaker 14: at them and said, okay, well then we need strong guarantees,

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Speaker 14: we need strong structure.

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Speaker 4: You know, a guy who was once mister Irrelevant, and.

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Speaker 14: You know, with the Niners history of being able to

479
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Speaker 14: win with different quarterbacks, I think what what brock Perdy

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Speaker 14: really wanted here was affirmation, like, you know, this contract

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Speaker 14: shows that I'm going to be your guy for the

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Speaker 14: foreseeable future and there aren't like all these trap doors

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Speaker 14: that will allow for you to get out of the contract.

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Speaker 14: And so, you know, the three comps that they had

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Speaker 14: worked off of were Jalen Hurts to a tongue of

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Speaker 14: Aloa and Jared Goff, and I think the one that

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Speaker 14: they came closest with was Goff.

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Speaker 4: Where you have, you know, a.

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Speaker 14: Team that's a winning team in Detroit, where you have

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Speaker 14: a quarterback who's a really good player, who's got a

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Speaker 14: lot of good players around him, and you know, the

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Speaker 14: quarterback in that case, Jared Goff in that case wasn't

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Speaker 14: consumed without getting every taking every dollar off the table.

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Speaker 14: But you know, he wanted to know that he was

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Speaker 14: going to be the Lions quarterback going forward. And so

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Speaker 14: I think that those were the constant I think when

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Speaker 14: you look at it, you know, when the full details

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Speaker 14: come out, we'll see. My sense is that like about

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Speaker 14: one hundred and seventy six million is going to be

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Speaker 14: virtually guaranteed, and this contract will reflect you can bank

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Speaker 14: on Brock Party being the quarterback for the next four years,

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Speaker 14: so twenty twenty five through twenty twenty eight. So the

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Speaker 14: Niners do a deal that in this environment is reasonable

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Speaker 14: at at at fifty three million dollars per year, and

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Speaker 14: Party gets his assurances that he's going to be their

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Speaker 14: guy going forward.

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Speaker 2: Should we extract anything more than what we probably already

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Speaker 2: have with Caleb Williams and his father and the story

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Speaker 2: that's coming out that they were going to try to

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Speaker 2: blow up the draft because he didn't want to go

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Speaker 2: to the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, two things.

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Speaker 14: Number One, I would say it's a tough look for

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Speaker 14: Mattyberflus and Shane Waldron and the guys who were on

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Speaker 14: the staff last year. I mean that it just it

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Speaker 14: sucks because I think for those guys, they're going to

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Speaker 14: have to answer those questions now, Like, you know, if

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Speaker 14: they have to interview for another job, what do you

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Speaker 14: think the first question is going to be, you mean

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Speaker 14: you didn't we didn't have your quarterback learning how to

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Speaker 14: watch film?

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Speaker 4: What was going on there? You know, So.

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Speaker 14: There could be some effect there. I don't think it's

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Speaker 14: gonna have an effect in the new staff because Ben

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Speaker 14: Johnson wasn't there for that obviously, you know. And then

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Speaker 14: the second piece of it, I think it's just kind.

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Speaker 4: Of where we're at with pro athletes right now. And

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Speaker 4: I think it's.

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Speaker 14: Notable too, because we talked about this with Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 14: last year, right like, and Marvin Harrison handled his pre

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Speaker 14: draft process so differently than almost any other athlete we've

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Speaker 14: seen and that he very much limited the teams he

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Speaker 14: was he was gonna he was he was he was

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Speaker 14: going to meet with extensively beyond just the combine. He

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Speaker 14: didn't take a physical at the combine, which was you know,

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Speaker 14: a little out of whack right like as far as

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Speaker 14: a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of NFL people saw it.

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Speaker 14: But he's like, if I'm going to be a top

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Speaker 14: five pick, why do I want to give the other

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Speaker 14: twenty seven teams my my medical information?

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Speaker 4: And then you know.

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Speaker 14: He he also like didn't work out for the larger group,

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Speaker 14: so and he had asked teams like, do you need

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Speaker 14: me to work out?

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Speaker 4: And they said no to him.

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Speaker 14: And really the overarching thing with Marvin there was he

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Speaker 14: handled the entire thing like a business proposition. Why is

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Speaker 14: that relevant with Marvin and Caleb Williams, Well, because they

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Speaker 14: were the first high school class to enter college in

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Speaker 14: the nil era, So these guys have legitimately been businessmen

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Speaker 14: since they were eighteen years old. It's the first group

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Speaker 14: that came out of high school into the NIL era.

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Speaker 14: I thought that was notable with Marvin, and I think

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Speaker 14: it's notable here with Caleb. Caleb asked these big picture

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Speaker 14: questions that guys ten, fifteen, twenty years ago may not

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Speaker 14: have asked. And I think it's part of what this

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Speaker 14: generation of athlete.

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Speaker 4: Is going to be. They're entering the league with money in.

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Speaker 14: Their pocket, they have some leverage because of it, and

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Speaker 14: they've had, you know, the chance to kind of write

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Speaker 14: their ticket right up until they enter the NFL. And so,

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Speaker 14: you know, I think for Caleb it was kind of

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Speaker 14: what we've seen about him resisting going to Chicago was

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Speaker 14: part of a bigger picture thing, which is I'm handling

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Speaker 14: I'm handling my business affairs like their business affairs, like

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Speaker 14: this is these this is this is big business, and

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Speaker 14: I'm going to treat it as such.

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Speaker 4: And you know, and even though he didn't go.

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Speaker 14: Through with it, the fact that he just explored it,

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Speaker 14: I think as a precursor to more guys handling their

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Speaker 14: pre draft process this way because they're more prepared to

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Speaker 14: based on what they went through in college.

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Speaker 2: Well, how surprised are you that somebody hasn't pulled in

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Speaker 2: Eli Manning?

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Speaker 14: It's I mean, it's yeah, it's surprising, But like how

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Speaker 14: many guys really have the leverage to do it?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 14: Like, how many guys are that level I mean Caleb

580
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Speaker 14: was seen as on the level of Trevor Lawrence and

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Speaker 14: Andrew Luck and that's probably it, you know, over the

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Speaker 14: last twenty years.

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Speaker 4: So there aren't a ton of guys who have the

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Speaker 4: leverage to pull it off.

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Speaker 3: What about arch Manning?

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Speaker 14: He might yeah, I mean like and we'll see, right like,

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Speaker 14: because I don't know if Archie is going to come

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Speaker 14: out like after next year. I think you and I

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Speaker 14: I think you'd agree with me in this, right, Like,

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Speaker 14: based on the family history, I I think hes probably

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Speaker 14: gonna spend at least two more years at Texas.

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Speaker 3: It would be my guess.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, like he certainly could do that,

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Speaker 4: you know, like where.

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Speaker 3: But he's going to get an idea where he could

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Speaker 3: go if he used.

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Speaker 4: He's got to play well obviously let's established effort.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's got.

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Speaker 2: But let's say the Saints are right there with the

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Speaker 2: number one pick, right, would then that, you know, help

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Speaker 2: him with his decision that maybe there is a best

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Speaker 2: case scenario, I would come out to play for my hometown.

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Speaker 3: If not, then I'm going to stay and play one

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Speaker 3: more year.

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Speaker 14: I mean, well that's what Peyton did, right Because Peyton,

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Speaker 14: I mean Peyton.

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Speaker 3: Was going to the Jets.

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Speaker 14: Yes, yeah, with Parcels there, and he decided not to

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Speaker 14: do it right, Like so like I think Peyton had

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Speaker 14: I would argue Peyton had that sort of decision on

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Speaker 14: the table in nineteen ninety seven when he decided to

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Speaker 14: go back to Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's that's the.

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Speaker 14: Ultimate sliding do or situation, like like scenario, by the way,

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Speaker 14: like what would have happened Peyton Manning went to the Jets?

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Speaker 14: Like then does Bill Belichick stay in New York?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 14: Like because he was lined up to be Parcels success or,

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Speaker 14: Like how many things are different if Peyton Manny comes

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Speaker 14: out in ninety seven? But yeah, I mean I think

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Speaker 14: that like he'll certainly I would think based on how

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Speaker 14: everything's been handled over the years with that family, that

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Speaker 14: they will weigh everything.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 14: I think that the interesting part about the decision that

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Speaker 14: Arts would have to make if he plays.

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Speaker 4: At that level this year.

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Speaker 14: Would be the history of quarterbacks that only start one

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Speaker 14: year is not very good. You know, only start one

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Speaker 14: year as collegians. There's this some teams look at it

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Speaker 14: as like this, like this threshold that you have to

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Speaker 14: get past is twenty five starts?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 14: You want to have twenty five starts in college and

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Speaker 14: the history of guys who have more than twenty five

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Speaker 14: starts is much better than guys who don't.

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Speaker 4: You know, Arch isn't going to be there at the

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Speaker 4: end of this year. He'll be sure to that at

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Speaker 4: the end of this year. So how beneficial does the situation?

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Speaker 14: How good does the situation that the NFL team's presenting

641
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Speaker 14: that has the number one pick if he plays that well?

642
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Speaker 14: How good does that situation have to be to supersede

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Speaker 14: what might statistically be best for his development?

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Speaker 4: I think those are the sorts of questions you'd be asking,

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Speaker 4: and I think they'd be asking those questions too.

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Speaker 2: When do you think will get clarity on what the

647
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns are doing at quarterback?

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Speaker 14: I have to think it's going to be hard for

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Speaker 14: them to run a four man competition in camp because

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Speaker 14: you have to get the rest of your team ready

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Speaker 14: because of the rules, There's only so many opportunities you

652
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Speaker 14: get with your first offense out there. You've got to

653
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Speaker 14: prepare the other ten guys in the huddle to play football,

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Speaker 14: to play offense in twenty twenty five, and so you

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Speaker 14: can't just endlessly have this quarterback derby going on. So

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Speaker 14: I would think my guests would be they have to

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Speaker 14: at least get a read on it over the course

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Speaker 14: of the next five weeks, six weeks and OTAs in

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Speaker 14: mini camp and allow that to sort of guide them

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Speaker 14: as far as how good a shot every one of

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Speaker 14: those guys has it winning the job when we get

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Speaker 14: to the summer, where it's like at least in their

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Speaker 14: heads narrowed down a little bit, where they're giving the

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Speaker 14: best opportunities to the guys who have proven themselves the most. So,

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Speaker 14: you know, it's funny too, like because I thought about

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Speaker 14: this and like it's like, well, Joe Flacco could just

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Speaker 14: because he was there two years ago, he could just

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Speaker 14: you know, give up some of the reps so the

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Speaker 14: other guys could get it. Do you think Joe's going

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Speaker 14: to sign up for that dan? Like I mean, like

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Speaker 14: he wants to start, you know. So it's like Tommy

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Speaker 14: Reese is the offensive coordinator. He wasn't there two years ago.

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Speaker 14: So do you if you're Joe, do you want to

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Speaker 14: give Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders all

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Speaker 14: of these reps with the new coordinator that you're not

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Speaker 14: getting that might give them a leg up in the competition,

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Speaker 14: which could end up like could like wind up leading

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Speaker 14: to you losing your job. Like I don't see that

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Speaker 14: that being like I don't see that being the best

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Speaker 14: course of action for Joe Flacco either. So it's definitely

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Speaker 14: complicated in a lot of different ways. And I do

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Speaker 14: think more so than in a normal compet quarterback competition,

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Speaker 14: because there are four of them. They have to get

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Speaker 14: a read on this and have to have an idea

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Speaker 14: of what the pecking order might be coming out of

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Speaker 14: the spring. And then I would think you probably are

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Speaker 14: on the second or third preseason game, are making a

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Speaker 14: decision on your starter.

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Speaker 2: One final thought here with the Aaron Rodgers situation, it

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Speaker 2: feels like there's people that are talking around the topic

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Speaker 2: of Aaron playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, your sense

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Speaker 2: is what talking around in what way that you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: they could see him playing. There's no news here that

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Speaker 2: maybe he's got some personal things he needs to take

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Speaker 2: care of. I mean, he didn't want to go to camp,

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Speaker 2: you know, hit something else.

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Speaker 14: So yeah, so like give me, like, let me give

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Speaker 14: you the logic on this, Like that, like, I like,

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Speaker 14: I think I've been able to ascertain based on some

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Speaker 14: stuff I know, and then some stuff I'm projecting out

701
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Speaker 14: a little bit. Like I like, I think the personal

702
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Speaker 14: stuff is legitimate. I I would say we should all

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Speaker 14: respect that, of course. And I think the second piece

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Speaker 14: of that is if you sign him in April, him

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Speaker 14: on the April first, and you say, okay, Aaron, you

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Speaker 14: go take care of your personal stuff, well, you know,

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Speaker 14: then you've basically signed up for the entire spring, both

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Speaker 14: you and Aaron being overcome with whnes. He's showing up ones,

709
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Speaker 14: he's showing up on'es, he's showing up. Get to the

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Speaker 14: off season program. Where's Aaron? Where's Aaron? Where's Aaron? Then

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Speaker 14: that starts again when you start OTA's. It starts again

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Speaker 14: when you get to mini camp. And so do you

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Speaker 14: want to sign up for that where it's just hovering

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Speaker 14: over your team or do.

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Speaker 4: You say okay, like you go ahead.

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Speaker 14: You take care of your personal stuff, and we'll push

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Speaker 14: the deal over the goal line when you're ready. I

718
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Speaker 14: think that's sort of the attack that the Steelers have taken.

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Speaker 4: Is there a risk involved?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, he can change his mind, you know what I

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Speaker 14: mean or there could be an injury somewhere or you know,

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Speaker 14: who knows. But I don't think like the contract's going

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Speaker 14: to be an issue. I don't think the relationship. I

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Speaker 14: don't know if there's any issue there. Like I think all

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Speaker 14: that stuff's taken care of, you know, And now it's

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Speaker 14: just when when Aaron's ready to sign, and you know,

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Speaker 14: I think he'll be a Steeler.

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Speaker 4: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Play nice there at the owner's meeting.

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Speaker 4: I'll try, I'll try my best.

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Speaker 14: Sometimes I'm not good at that, but I'll try and

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Speaker 14: try and do it for you, Dan, how about that?

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Speaker 3: Have you been yelling at an owner recently?

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Speaker 4: Recently? Normally?

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Speaker 14: Normally, when an owner is pissed at me, it comes

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Speaker 14: to some sort of conduit.

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Speaker 4: It happened in the fall. It happened in the fall.

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Speaker 14: Somebody wasn't wasn't very happy with there were It was

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Speaker 14: actually like a couple people came at me for my

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Speaker 14: portrayal of an owner, but it wound up. I'll just

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Speaker 14: say it wound up all being true. And you know

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Speaker 14: what I find in these situations, Dan, is that they

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Speaker 14: get upset at you in the moment and then give

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Speaker 14: it a few months and fill at me.

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Speaker 4: You were right.

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Speaker 3: So it was the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Huh, it wasn't the Patriots. You might have the conference

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Speaker 4: right though.

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Speaker 3: There you go, Okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Could be the Jets. Never know the Jets. He's a

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Speaker 2: breer Monday Morning quarterback. Thank you, Albert?

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Speaker 4: All right, thanks Dan.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a break here.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to your phone call coming up and top

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Speaker 2: of the hour, somebody is predicting Pacers in six.

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Speaker 3: He'll join us.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP Show.

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Speaker 2: Hey Tani and Mookie Bets hit back to back home

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Speaker 2: runs in the sixth inning last night, first time they've

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Speaker 2: had back to back home runs since Game two of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four World Series.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Stand of a day, Start of a day, Start of

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Speaker 6: a day, start of a day.

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Speaker 3: This is the start of the day.

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Speaker 2: I watched the Brett Favre documentary. It's on Netflix, and

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Speaker 2: it's an hour long and doesn't paint a doesn't paint

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Speaker 2: a nice picture at all. And I know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if there's anything new in it. Jen Sturger, who

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Speaker 2: was unfairly brought into all of this by Farb sending,

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Speaker 2: you know, lewd pictures to her, and she's she's featured

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Speaker 2: front and center. You don't come away feeling better about

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Speaker 2: Brett Favre. You might come away from it feeling like, Wow,

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Speaker 2: they really went after him, because I didn't think they

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Speaker 2: went after urban Meyer hard enough with all the things

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Speaker 2: that went on during his coaching tenures.

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Speaker 3: But with Farv, they go at him. They go at

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Speaker 3: him pretty good.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Pauline, you know, we were just in Green Bay,

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Speaker 8: and there's a I wonder if it's weird for Packers

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Speaker 8: fans who have two all time great quarterbacks in their

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Speaker 8: history that both have different levels of baggage and left

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Speaker 8: under different circumstances. But are those guys still beloved in

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Speaker 8: that town?

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Speaker 3: Completely beloved Farv Is?

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Speaker 2: It felt like it didn't feel like and I once again,

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Speaker 2: this is a small sample size, but you kind of

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Speaker 2: feel like when you get a small sample size, you're

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Speaker 2: getting a large sample size. In Green Bay, whenever we

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Speaker 2: brought up Farv, somebody seemed to have a story about him,

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Speaker 2: or they saw him, or he was around.

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Speaker 3: And then you mentioned Rogers and you would getting it

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Speaker 3: just wasn't the same.

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Speaker 2: And I think Farv just the way he played that

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Speaker 2: Green Bay embraced that. And it's not to say Rogers

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Speaker 2: didn't play at a high level, it was Farv played differently.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers played pretty FARV played pretty reckless, and that's

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Speaker 2: the way he lived his life. He's lived his life

801
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Speaker 2: pretty reckless. But then you know, they decided to replace Rogers,

802
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Speaker 2: so the same with Farv. And then but Farv wanted

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Speaker 2: to get back at Green Bay by going to Minnesota

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Speaker 2: so he would get to play against Green Bay. Now

805
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Speaker 2: there was the possibility that Rogers was going to try

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Speaker 2: to go to Minnesota to be able to get back

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Speaker 2: at Green Bay. But it feels like Farv is beloved.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Pauline, I just went back and looked at Aaron Rodgers'

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Speaker 8: career at Green Bay. Four hundred and seventy five touchdown

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Speaker 8: passes and only one hundred and five picks. That is

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Speaker 8: so much better regular season than any other quarterback in

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Speaker 8: NFL history. Drastically better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, regular season, Yeah, I mean, Rodgers is a better quarterback,

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Speaker 2: but Farv was easier to root for, I think, And

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Speaker 2: once again, this is just with the people who came

816
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Speaker 2: out to the bar when we were doing our show there,

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Speaker 2: and just how they reacted when you would say Brett

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it was interesting how Brett farre seemed to

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Speaker 6: fit the town so well, just based on all of

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Speaker 6: the people that we were just talking to at the draft,

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Speaker 6: you know, like you're saying, you met a million people

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Speaker 6: who had a story about him. He just seemed to

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Speaker 6: fit and capture the town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Marvin.

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Speaker 9: Do you think it's because Aaron Rodgers isn't officially retired

827
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Speaker 9: yet and he's still playing that people kind of have

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Speaker 9: that eye roll towards him.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. Aaron's not easy to embrace.

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Speaker 2: Far of it feels like now I don't know how

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Speaker 2: Green Bay fans are going to react to this documentary,

832
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Speaker 2: but not a lot of nice things are said. But

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Speaker 2: comes out today on Netflix Final Hour on this Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: Coming Out. Got a text last night that said Pacers

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Speaker 2: in six. The person who sent me the text will

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Speaker 2: join us coming Out