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Speaker 2: should be. Well, Richie, here we are on a Sunday,

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Speaker 2: the NBA playoffs or underway. I got a lot of

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Speaker 2: thoughts on this year's NBA playoffs to share with you

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Speaker 2: and everyone else. And of course we are counting down

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Speaker 2: to the NFL Draft, which comes up on Thursday. And

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Speaker 2: before we get to what's going on with these NBA plus,

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Speaker 2: a quick note here because we're gonna have a lot

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Speaker 2: of draft talk today with the big day coming up

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Speaker 2: just four days away. But is it just me, Richie,

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Speaker 2: or have things been at least compared to last year

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Speaker 2: at the time a little quiet leading up to this

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft, because last year just seemed like there was

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Speaker 2: all kinds of stories floating right up until the final

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Speaker 2: you know, gun to start the draft and then, of course,

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Speaker 2: all that noise turned out to be a big bunch

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Speaker 2: of nothing. And now I'm thinking the opposite this year,

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Speaker 2: like it's been strangely quiet outside of you know, where's

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Speaker 2: like the quiet before the storm.

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Speaker 3: I hope.

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Speaker 2: I would love to see all kinds of shenanigans explode

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Speaker 2: on Thursday. I'm getting this gut feeling that that might

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 5: I feel like there are enough teams that had bad

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Speaker 5: have need at quarterback, who are sitting on a pick,

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Speaker 5: who are going to move They're just looking for the

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Speaker 5: best possible deal. And I've always said this about contract

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Speaker 5: negotiations and situations like this. You know, where teams are

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Speaker 5: We're gonna give Minnesota the fifth overall pick if you're

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Speaker 5: the Chargers. Well, people don't make decisions. Deadlines make decisions,

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Speaker 5: and whether those are perceived deadlines or they are actual

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Speaker 5: real deadlines, like the draft starting and a team being

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Speaker 5: with Justin Herbert. Well, that deadline of the ticking clock

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Speaker 5: it's been a little quiet. I think a lot of

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Speaker 5: these teams are sitting on the capitol and they're waiting

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Speaker 5: for the best possible deal, and that best possible deal

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Speaker 5: probably won't be consummated until the night up.

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Speaker 3: So understand this.

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Speaker 2: The boards have been set for all thirty two NFL

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Speaker 2: And Hortiz, their general manager, new general manager spent all

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Speaker 3: We haven't really gotten any offers. Well, that's that's not true.

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Speaker 2: In fact, most of the teams that are interested in

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Speaker 2: So that's pretty much how I would operate a draft.

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Speaker 3: What say you, So, here's the deal.

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Speaker 5: You could go in with whatever philosophy you want, not

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Speaker 5: Or frankly, what happens a lot to teams like I'll

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Speaker 4: So many things occur in such a short.

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Speaker 5: Amount of time that I imagine most of these, you know,

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Speaker 2: Like I said, you can have all the perfect plans

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Speaker 3: We've seen this before, start falling down the board.

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Speaker 2: And so I've said this many times and it's so

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Speaker 2: So you're getting draft value. And this is why when

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Speaker 2: to the two thousand and nine NFL draft. It was

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Speaker 3: And to show you how significant that draft.

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Speaker 2: Was Yeah, not only was anyone associated with the Ornberger

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Speaker 3: So, boy, let me ask you this before we even

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Speaker 2: Right at what age did you first think about the

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Speaker 5: I know the exact moment, so I remember, and it's

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Speaker 5: I remember I was watching a Patriots game my first

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Speaker 5: So playing football it was, you know, just lawlessness for

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Speaker 5: And I'm watching this game, this close up of this

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Speaker 5: And so I'm thinking to myself, like I could see

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Speaker 5: and then sure enough, the majority of those guys I

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Speaker 5: drafted by the Patriots ten years later. It was bizarre.

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Speaker 5: Matt Light was still the left tackle, Dan Copen was

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Speaker 4: It was bizarre, But yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 5: Moment for whatever reason, it sticks out in my head

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the draft, be sure to catch Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio's Draft Night Live throughout the first round of

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Speaker 2: the Draft this coming Thursday, beginning at eight pm Eastern,

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Speaker 3: Fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Well, and as we now know with the emergence of

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Speaker 3: How much work you know, right place, right time. There

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Speaker 3: So we're going to get much more obviously into what's

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Speaker 2: I got a question for you because Rich you know,

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Speaker 2: I think it bears fruit in this year's and an

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Speaker 3: Rivalries matter.

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Speaker 2: Rivalries matter and can be based on a long history

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Speaker 4: Sure, is there.

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Speaker 2: A must watch potential matchup in this year's NBA playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Wow? That's a great question.

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Speaker 2: Is there a rivalry in the moment that you're like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean you go back in the day Pacers, Knicks

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Speaker 2: Obviously with the NBA Finals, we had four straight years

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Speaker 2: But in twenty twenty four, I'm talking just NBA Finals,

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Speaker 2: Is there any potential matchup that you say, yeah, that

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, look Boston and New York that that

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Speaker 5: You know, the New York Jets and the New England Patriots,

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Speaker 5: ever playoff series where it's possible that both teams claim

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Speaker 4: Fans and the Denver fans.

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Speaker 5: But I get I mean, to answer your question, I

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Speaker 4: I don't really see I don't really.

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Speaker 5: See like like there being that heated matchup like Celtics

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's the point. First of all, Geography does

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Speaker 2: could be a brief history, you know. Like I go

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Speaker 2: back to that Lakers Suns matchup in the early two thousands,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and I don't feel any of that. And

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Speaker 2: The NBA is what we're where we find ourselves right

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Speaker 2: Everything sort of leading up to it was just, you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't see that now.

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Speaker 2: Like I was talking to the guys before the show,

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Speaker 2: What I'm talking about it this is a team sport well,

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Speaker 2: and I don't see that right now. Now, some there

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Speaker 5: about two years ago, but Trey Young was a rookie

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Speaker 5: and I remember they had a couple of regular season

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Speaker 5: games and it got heated and then I can't remember

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Speaker 5: if it was a player or if it was actual

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Speaker 5: a playoff round.

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Speaker 4: But that was like a fun watch there.

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Speaker 5: Like you said rivalries, they can start fast and burn

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Speaker 5: hot for a short time.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned Lakers' suns.

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Speaker 5: Like that, that can happen, and it can happen within

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Speaker 5: one playoff series. All of a sudden in Game one

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Speaker 5: or a game two gets super chippy and then all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden, there's a lot of interest to see

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Speaker 5: if this powder keg is gonna explode night in, night out,

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Speaker 5: And it seems like the players are playing for a

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Speaker 5: little bit more than just advancing. They're they're playing to

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Speaker 5: humiliate their opponent. And those rivalries are important. And we

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Speaker 5: saw that with bird Magic, we saw that with I mean,

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Speaker 5: I remember growing up with the pat Riley New York

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Speaker 5: Knicks playing out of New York, and I was a

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Speaker 5: Bulls fan.

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Speaker 4: I was a Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 5: Fan, and I remember those were vicious Eastern Conference regular

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Speaker 5: season game.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Knicks, Pacers, Nick.

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Speaker 4: Stars, pat Riley. I mean, like you, you got to

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Speaker 4: really see some now.

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Speaker 2: I'm a West Coast guy and I could not wait

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Speaker 2: to see those matchups. Yeah, because I knew there was

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Speaker 2: genuine animosity. That's as a fan like you say, you

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Speaker 2: have passion, and you hope that that passion, that hatred

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Speaker 2: you have for that other team carries over with the

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Speaker 2: players on your team.

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Speaker 3: And then that's a matchup. Pacers, Nicks, Woolf Hey, no prisoners.

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Speaker 2: All right, much more on the matchups we have right

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Speaker 2: now in this NBA first Round, But first let's find

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Speaker 2: out what is trending right now? And oh a sudden,

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Speaker 2: I look up and Kevin Wired have you left? I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You've been here constantly.

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Speaker 8: Never feels like I live here.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you were here yesterday and I look up and

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Speaker 2: Wired is here again.

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Speaker 3: Incredible. What we do have a lot of score.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, lots of going on. Today is probably one

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Speaker 9: of the best times of the year in sports. My

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Speaker 9: personal favorite is October, but I think April, like mid

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Speaker 9: March of the end of April is a close second.

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Speaker 9: With what we have sports wyse A.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have the Stanley Cup playoffs starting, so yeah.

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Speaker 8: It's already underway, actually, Stanley Cup Playoffs.

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Speaker 9: The Panthers and Tampa Bay Lightning in action right now

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Speaker 9: down in.

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Speaker 8: Sunrise, Florida.

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Speaker 9: Seventeen forty six to go in the third period and

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Speaker 9: the Panthers have a two to one lead over the Lightning,

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Speaker 9: Game one of that first round Eastern Conference matchup.

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Speaker 8: In the NBA, we've.

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Speaker 9: Got a blowout going on in Boston, seventy four fifty seven.

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Speaker 9: The Celtics lead over the Heat as they've got four

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Speaker 9: eighteen to go in the third quarter. Jason Tatum having

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Speaker 9: an outstanding game so far for Boston seventeen points, ten rebounds,

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Speaker 9: also has seven assists, so he very well could be

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Speaker 9: on his way to a triple double. Christophs porzingis with

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Speaker 9: thirteen points and Sam Hauser four to six shooting from

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Speaker 9: beyond the three point line. Coming off the bench as

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Speaker 9: he has twelve points. Bam Outebayo at the top of

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Speaker 9: the score sheet for Miami, He's got fourteen points on

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Speaker 9: five of eleven shooting.

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Speaker 8: Coming up at three.

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Speaker 9: Thirty, Mavericks and Clippers out in Los Angeles. Tyler ruling

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Speaker 9: out Kawhi leonard A for their matchup with Dallas later today,

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Speaker 9: So there was increasing doubt that he would play yesterday

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Speaker 9: after he did not face contact in practice, and now

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Speaker 9: it is official he will not be suiting up four

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Speaker 9: the Clippers later tonight at seven. Painters and Bucks up

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Speaker 9: in Milwaukee. The night cap will feature the Pelicans in

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Speaker 9: thunder squaring off in Oklahoma City. Major League Baseball several

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Speaker 9: games underway right now, Red Sox and Pirates in the

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Speaker 9: third inning, with Boston leading it two to one. Philly's

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Speaker 9: on top of the White Sox three two. They're in

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Speaker 9: the top of the third, Nationals leading the Astros three

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Speaker 9: to nothing. They are in the bottom of the third inning.

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Speaker 9: Yankees with a one nothing lead against the Rays. They're

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Speaker 9: in the third inning, Angels, Red scoreless. At the end

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Speaker 9: of the second, Guardians with an early one nothing lead

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Speaker 9: over the Athletics Orioles Royals are scoreless. Tigers lead the

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Speaker 9: Twins in the first inning, one nothing, Brewers, Cardinals just

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Speaker 9: getting started.

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Speaker 8: They are scoreless.

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Speaker 9: Same for the Marlins and the Cubs, and coming up

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Speaker 9: in the next thirty minutes Mariners and Rockies, first game

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Speaker 9: of a day night doubleheader out in Denver.

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Speaker 2: Back you guys, all right, Kevin, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: We'll check in with you a little bit later on.

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Speaker 2: Once again, this is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and

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Speaker 2: Rich Ornberger with you as we'd get all these playoffs

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Speaker 2: underway and baseball is rolling, and yeah, we got the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft coming up on Thursday, so we got a

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Speaker 2: lot of ground to cover today. So I'm watching that

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Speaker 2: Lakers game last night against the Nuggets, and it looked

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Speaker 2: like every other game we've seen over the last two

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Speaker 2: years between these two teams were At times, it looks

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Speaker 2: like the Lakers are very much on equal footing with

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Speaker 2: the Nuggets. They could definitely play and win these games, yep,

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Speaker 2: until they can't because in crunch time they just seem

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Speaker 2: to wilt every single time agree against this Nuggets team.

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Speaker 2: And whether it's I mean, Murray did not have a

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Speaker 2: great game for the Nuggets, until the end, all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, he's making shots. And Jokich is Jokic. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he is the guy. But I'm watching this Laker team

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Speaker 2: thinking to myself last year when they were matched up

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Speaker 2: in the Western Conference finals was sort of the emergence

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Speaker 2: of Austin Reeves. And I'm watching the game last night, like,

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Speaker 2: is he on the court? Is he going to shoot

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Speaker 2: the ball? And D'Angel Russell was shooting. He was just

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Speaker 2: bricking everything. And in the end, the Lakers wasted again

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Speaker 2: top level performances by Lebron and ad in the come

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Speaker 2: up short.

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Speaker 3: Against the Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: And so now I'm thinking to myself, all right, because

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Speaker 2: I thought if they win the first game, and I

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Speaker 2: thought they really had a chance.

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Speaker 3: You know, they had some moment at the end, they

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Speaker 3: look at.

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Speaker 5: The halftime score and you're feeling pretty good about that thought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and they were up by double digits

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Speaker 2: in that first half, so you're thinking, Okay, maybe they

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Speaker 2: could steal that first game. Now, the idea of them

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Speaker 2: winning four of the next six games against the Nuggets

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem very likely. So the Lakers are going to

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Speaker 2: be most likely. I will never say it can't happen,

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Speaker 2: but just say most likely first round fodder for the Nuggets,

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Speaker 2: and that leaves the Lakers with some big decisions. And

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Speaker 2: Lebron James has a player option for next year, so

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Speaker 2: he has a player it's his decision whether or not

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Speaker 2: to exercise that option to stay with the Lakers. I

577
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Speaker 2: don't know if he saw this, but he was sort

578
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Speaker 2: of throwing out his love affair with Dan Hurley, the

579
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Speaker 2: Yukon Code coach, on social media because I gotta believe

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Speaker 2: Darvin ham is in dangered specie if they lose in

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Speaker 2: the first round.

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Speaker 3: To this Nuggets team.

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Speaker 2: But the idea of the Lakers moving forward under the

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Speaker 2: control of Lebron James, and we knew this was going

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Speaker 2: to happen. This is already six years in six years

586
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Speaker 2: in Yes, they did win a championship in the Bubble

587
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, but now we go into year seven

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Speaker 2: of Lebron James in charge of this organization.

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Speaker 3: I mean, basically, he's saying, who's going to be the coach,

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Speaker 3: who's not going to be the coach? What is going

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Speaker 3: to be the makeup of this roster?

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Speaker 2: YEP, if you're a Laker fan, is that a healthy

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Speaker 2: situation moving forward for one of the most esteemed along

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Speaker 2: with the Celtics organizations, in the history of the NBA.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a Lakers fan, so I can't answer the

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Speaker 5: question for you, but I can answer this more analytically

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Speaker 5: and from an outsider looking in standpoint. I mean, if

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Speaker 5: you analyze the Lakers' best chance to a championship as

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Speaker 5: it stands right now, it's with Lebron James. Lebron James

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Speaker 5: is still nearing forty one of the best basketball players

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Speaker 5: on the planet, certainly one of the best ten playings

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Speaker 5: still in the league at very least, and so when

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Speaker 5: we're talking about the best ten basketball players on the planet,

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Speaker 5: we're talking about Rarefied Air. We're talking about a real

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Speaker 5: shot to win a championship. And then when you pair

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Speaker 5: him with another superstar like Anthony Davis, well you have

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Speaker 5: an even more increased chance. And as long as Lebron's there,

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Speaker 5: unless the relationship sours or if he wants the team

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Speaker 5: to move on from Anthony Davis, Anthony Davis is gonna

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Speaker 5: stay there too. So I guess my point is, from

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Speaker 5: the outside analyzing this, with Lebron James, you have a

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Speaker 5: good chance or a very least eight chance of winning

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Speaker 5: a championship, So the Lakers are smart.

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Speaker 4: To keep Lebron happy.

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Speaker 5: The other side of that coin, though, is with Lebron

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Speaker 5: James comes Lebron James, and Lebron James is all encompassing,

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Speaker 5: and so you don't just get the player. You get

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Speaker 5: the general manager, you get the coach, you get the

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Speaker 5: personnel decision maker, you get the guy who, by and large,

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Speaker 5: by the way he plays ball and it seems like,

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Speaker 5: you know, he'll show up to practice and he'll do

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Speaker 5: the things that are asked of him. It'll be a

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Speaker 5: good role model, an example amongst his teammates in the

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Speaker 5: locker room. But if Lebron has another project he's working on,

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Speaker 5: or if he needs a night off to go visit

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Speaker 5: his son at college, or anything like what Lebron wants,

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Speaker 5: Lebron gets now, fortunately for the Lakers and fortunately for

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Speaker 5: the league. His focus has almost solely been on building

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Speaker 5: up his basketball career and building up you know, the

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Speaker 5: teams that he's played on, and so I think that

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Speaker 5: you know, those allowances when they are asked of the

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Speaker 5: teams he's played for in the past, they're grant without

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Speaker 5: even batting an eye because he's one of the most

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Speaker 5: dedicated individuals ever.

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Speaker 4: But you do sign up for a lot when you

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Speaker 4: sign up for Lebron.

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Speaker 5: And when you sign up to be his head coach,

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Speaker 5: and whether your name is Frank Vogel or Eric Spolstra

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Speaker 5: or Darvin Ham or you know.

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Speaker 4: Tylu, you know what you're signing up for.

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Speaker 5: It's your way until Lebron speaks up, and then it's

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Speaker 5: Lebron's way because no coach is going to have more

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Speaker 5: power in this dynamic than Lebron James. So again, I

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Speaker 5: don't know if Laker fans are tired of this. I

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Speaker 5: don't know if Laker fans want to see change with

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Speaker 5: their organization. But if I were you, and this is

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Speaker 5: speaking again from an outsider position, the grass is not

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Speaker 5: always greener, So I would do it Lebron's way as

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Speaker 5: long as Lebron was cool with doing it in LA

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Speaker 5: because it's your best chance of winning a championship.

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Speaker 2: Well, based on what happened last year with them making

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Speaker 2: an unexpected run to the Western Conference finals, they locked

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Speaker 2: everybody up. Hatchamura, Reeves, Gay Vincent, who they acquired Vanderbilt,

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Speaker 2: All these guys are under lock and key for the

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Speaker 2: next two seasons.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: The only people that are not are D'Angel Russell, who

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Speaker 2: has a player option that's a low.

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Speaker 3: Ball number at eighteen million.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, based on what he did for most

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Speaker 2: of this year, even if he has a subpar playoff,

662
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess that he's gonna opt out. And I

663
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Speaker 2: don't know if the Lakers have any room to keep

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Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell and then Lebron. And so the idea with

665
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Speaker 2: Lebron is are you going to extend his contract?

666
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Speaker 3: Are you going to roll the dice.

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Speaker 2: As he picks up his player option because he's making

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Speaker 2: it pretty clear he wants to stay a Laker? Are

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Speaker 2: you gonna extend the deal beyond that? So a lot

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Speaker 2: of questions facing that organization. On the other side, I

671
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Speaker 2: want to get to another organization that has a lot

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Speaker 2: less pedigree than the Lakers, that are firmly under lock

673
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Speaker 2: and key by one player. Who is that team? You'll

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Speaker 2: find out. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvein, Rich Arnberger,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. We're live from the Tairaq dot com studios.

676
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Speaker 2: So we talked about Lebron's obvious influence on the future

677
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: of the Lakers. There's another player like that that has

678
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Speaker 2: total control of an organization, and that would be Kawhi

679
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: Leonard with the Los Angeles Clippers are a steam producer.

680
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: Bo Benson announced a week ago do not expect to

681
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Speaker 2: see Kawhi Leonard suit up again this season for the Clippers,

682
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: and it is official that he will be out of

683
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Speaker 2: their Game one matchup against the Dallas Mavericks. Here's the

684
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Speaker 2: problem moving forward for the Clippers. And this seems ironic

685
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Speaker 2: because when your owner is worth one hundred billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: which Steve Bomber is, he's one of the ten wealthiest

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Speaker 2: people on the planet. He has enough money to literally

688
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: change the NBA into the NBA as a National Bomber Association.

689
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 2: He could buy every team in the league three times over.

690
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Speaker 2: And he is being held hostage by his own decision

691
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Speaker 2: to move forward with Kawhi Leonard after that great run

692
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: with Toronto to win the championship in twenty nineteen, they

693
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: traded all their future draft capital to secure his rights

694
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Speaker 2: because he said, I will sign with you and not

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Speaker 2: the Lakers if you get me Paul George, which he did,

696
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Speaker 2: and I'm looking at their numbers right now and The

697
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: fact remains is that they have.

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Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard on a contract for the next three years.

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Speaker 3: The rest of the team, well, Paul George has got.

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Speaker 2: A player option coming up this year, and of course

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Speaker 2: James Harden, who they picked up, is a walk away

702
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Speaker 2: free agent after this season.

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Speaker 3: Now, you could make.

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Speaker 2: The argument, well, you're moving into a new arena next

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Speaker 2: year and you need Kawhi Leonard. Well, yeah, you need

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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard on the court. It's one thing to just

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Speaker 2: say Kawhi Leonard. And he did play the majority of

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Speaker 2: the regular season this year, maybe more so than he

709
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Speaker 2: was capable of because now as they head to the playoffs,

710
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Speaker 2: his future at least this season is very much in doubt.

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Speaker 2: But how do you build around Kawhi Leonard. How do

712
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Speaker 2: you how do you get big name free agents or

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Speaker 2: other talent to say, yeah, I want to hitch my

714
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Speaker 2: wagon with Kawhi Leonard in search of winning an NBA championship.

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Speaker 2: To me, that seems like a really hard sell right now.

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Speaker 5: Well, you can't sell Kawhi the person or the star,

717
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 5: because look, the the person is is somebody who is

718
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Speaker 5: singularly motivated by being great at basketball, Like he doesn't

719
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Speaker 5: he doesn't really care about much else. And this is

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Speaker 5: you know from interviews I've heard about him from former.

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Speaker 4: Teammates of his.

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Speaker 5: I was listening to a podcast recently where Patrick Beverley

723
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Speaker 5: was talking about Kawhi and he's stoic.

724
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Speaker 4: Kawhi is stoic.

725
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Speaker 5: He says exactly what he means. He doesn't mince words.

726
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 5: He's his effort at practice or in games is to

727
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Speaker 5: be the best player he can be in play with

728
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Speaker 5: the best players available for him to play with. He

729
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Speaker 5: doesn't care about politics. He just wants to win basketball

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Speaker 5: games and play great basketball. And so there was I

731
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Speaker 5: don't know, some on court situation where Patrick Beverley and

732
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Speaker 5: him there on the court, and you know, the coach

733
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Speaker 5: said something like, well, blah blah blah. You know, we

734
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Speaker 5: gotta switch that Kawhi. He's like, because we don't want

735
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Speaker 5: that player guarding that player. And he goes, well, then

736
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Speaker 5: why is he on the court. And it was that simple,

737
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Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden that guy was out

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Speaker 5: of the starting rotation.

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Speaker 4: That was it. You know. So, so Kawhi has a

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Speaker 4: lot of poll in this organization.

741
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Speaker 5: He has a lot of poll as a player, and

742
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Speaker 5: he's well respected, but you can't sell Kawhi.

743
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Speaker 4: You gotta sell the idea of Kuhi.

744
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Speaker 5: You gotta sell the idea of playing with a great

745
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Speaker 5: player in the second biggest media market in a brand

746
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Speaker 5: new arena with a fan base who's super excited to

747
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Speaker 5: see the new place, with all the bathrooms that Steve

748
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Speaker 5: Balmer put in there and the new JumboTron.

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Speaker 4: And you know that's why you gotta sell. You're not selling.

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Speaker 5: You're not selling Kawhi Leonard the Superstar because you can't

751
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Speaker 5: sell Kawhi Leonard the Superstar. So you're selling everything around

752
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Speaker 5: Kawhi and everything about Kawhi.

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Speaker 2: This team has been an idol forever. I mean, you

754
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: go back to when Vinnie Del Negro was the coach.

755
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: They were a fifty win team. Then they brought in

756
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Speaker 2: Doc Rivers because of his championship pedigree with the Celtics,

757
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: they were still a fifty win team, not getting to

758
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Speaker 2: the finals. And now Tyler is one of the better

759
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: coaches in this league, another guy with championship pedigree. But

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00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, why I know the reason, they just

761
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: they can't seem to get everybody to play at their

762
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Speaker 2: highest level when the games matter most in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: So year after year after year, this team is a

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Speaker 2: fifty plus win team that just can't get it done

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Speaker 2: in order to get to the NBA Finals under potential

766
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Speaker 2: NBA Championship. By the way, if this Boston Miami game

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Speaker 2: is any indication, can we just cancel the rest of

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Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference half of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Ninety six sixty two.

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Speaker 2: This is the reigning Eastern Conference champion Heat getting annihilated,

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Speaker 2: embarrassed by the Celtics. All right, coming up on the

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Speaker 2: other side, we're gonna get to this NFL draft. Any

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Speaker 2: surprises at the top will break it down. This is

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Speaker 2: Paul Morosi's going to be joining it. He's got a

782
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Speaker 2: lot of baseball to talk about. Also, we'll get his

783
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Speaker 2: prediction on which teams will be matched up in the

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Speaker 2: John Paul Morosi, Johnny is coming up in our next hour.

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's let's get back to this NFL draft,

787
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Speaker 2: and it has been eerily quiet, certainly compared to last year.

788
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Speaker 2: I mean, remember all the will Levis, you know, NonStop

789
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: will Levis. I mean, boy, he's rocketing up the charts,

790
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Speaker 2: and he was sitting there with that girlfriend of the moment,

791
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Speaker 2: you know, as she kept looking into the camera waiting

792
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Speaker 2: for her shot, her beauty shot, and then as his

793
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: name just continued to drift down the list. As it

794
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: turned out, he wasn't even picked in the first round.

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Speaker 2: This year, to me just feels entirely different, because, okay,

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Speaker 2: we know the Bears are gonna take Caleb Williams at

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00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: number one. There's not going to be any last second shocker.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams will He'll be the first pick in this

799
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Speaker 2: draft and he will go to the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 3: But from that point on, I think all bets are off.

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Speaker 2: I want to skip over the Commanders and go to

802
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: your team that of course made the big pick fifteen

803
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: years ago. To change the direction of that organization forever

804
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Speaker 2: by trading two fifth round picks to move into the

805
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Speaker 2: fourth round to take one Rich Ornberger out of Penn State.

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Speaker 2: But let's talk about the Patriots. They hit rock bottom.

807
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you can make the argument right now of

808
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: the weakest rosters in the league. Cardinals are certainly in

809
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Speaker 2: the conversation. I mean, the Patriots have some talent on

810
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Speaker 2: the defensive side, but offensively, wow, I mean, you don't

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Speaker 2: know where to begin, but I guess the best place

812
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Speaker 2: to begin is quarterback. So if you're sitting there at

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Speaker 2: number three right now, and we got some new faces

814
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Speaker 2: making decisions now that the Belichick era is a officially

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Speaker 2: over and the Patriots have made it clear that they're

816
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: willing to listen at number three overall, well, I think

817
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: most people seem to agree that the top three quarterbacks

818
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: in this draft are Kayleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, and Drake May.

819
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Speaker 2: And the last time I checked, the Patriots don't even

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Speaker 2: have a quarterback to speak of.

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Speaker 5: So do you, well, well, hang on, belly Zappy Jacoby Brissett,

822
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Speaker 5: remember those names?

823
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Speaker 3: All right?

824
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm look at forget Zappy, but I mean I

825
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: look at it. I'm not I don't think Brissett is awful.

826
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Speaker 2: I think Brissett has shown that he is capable, but

827
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Speaker 2: not as a franchise quarterback. So all right, so you're

828
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Speaker 2: you're you're there, You're getting the phone call, okay, and

829
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Speaker 2: they're going to lean on one of the most esteemed

830
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Speaker 2: names in organization history, and they'll say, rich Ornberger, you've

831
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: been around.

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00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: This game a long time, long time.

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Speaker 2: You know, you played in this game, You've you've played

834
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Speaker 2: with and against the Patriots, and obviously you've been a

835
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Speaker 2: master broadcaster ever since you went into that field.

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Speaker 3: So what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Should we keep this pic take the quarterback, whether it's

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00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels or Drake may or JJ McCarthy, or should

839
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Speaker 2: we explore the possibility of adding additional picks and trading down?

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Speaker 3: Which direction do you think we should go? Rich Ornberger?

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Speaker 4: Boy? Oh boy? So this sounds like such a cop out.

842
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 5: So I apologize to anybody who is waiting for some

843
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 5: earth shattering of philosophy that is going to break the

844
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Speaker 5: code that has flummixed many many franchises for many years

845
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Speaker 5: and sometimes has resulted in mass firings.

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Speaker 4: You know you missed too bad.

847
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Speaker 5: On even one draft, and that could be that could

848
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Speaker 5: be the trigger for regime change. And we've seen that

849
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Speaker 5: happen immediately. So I mean, look no further than Carolina

850
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 5: Panthers this past season. They draft Bryce Young and they've

851
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 5: cleaned house, so it can it can be that quick,

852
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 5: all right. So here's here's the advice I would give

853
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Speaker 5: to the Patriots. If you are in love with the

854
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 5: quarterback available at your slot, draft that quarterback, you know,

855
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 5: a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

856
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 5: You you don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

857
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 5: You don't you don't don't ask too many questions. If

858
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Speaker 5: the quarterback you fell in love with during the pre

859
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: draft process, and if that quarterback meets this very specific criteria,

860
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Speaker 5: this quarterback is going to be our franchise quarterback for

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Speaker 5: the next five years. Like you close your eyes and

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00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 5: you picture five years from now that quarterback still playing

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Speaker 5: at a high enough level in the NFL that he

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00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 5: will be the He will be what you're building your

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Speaker 5: organization around.

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Speaker 4: Draft that man. Don't think about it, just do it.

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Speaker 5: So that's my advice to every team, but specifically, when

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Speaker 5: you have a high draft pick, you don't have to

869
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Speaker 5: overthink it.

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Speaker 4: You just need to do it. Now.

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00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 5: If you're trying to convince yourself that the quarterback available

872
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 5: at that spot is just as good as the quarterback

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Speaker 5: you really wanted, then trade down or pick the next

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Speaker 5: best player on your board that isn't going to be

875
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 5: completely overvalued if you.

876
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: Draft them at that spot.

877
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 5: You know, So if it's a receiver who you think

878
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 5: really can help you and you can you know, flourish

879
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 5: as a franchise with that receiver or an edge rusher

880
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 5: or an offensive tackle, and the value is there, take

881
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 5: that man in the draft.

882
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: But do not try to force a square peg in.

883
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 5: A round hole because, like we know, you know, what's

884
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 5: gonna happen is either you're going to ruin the hole.

885
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 5: You know, the corners of the square peg are just

886
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 5: gonna scratch it up and it ain't gonna fit right

887
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 5: and it's never gonna feel right. Or you're gonna have

888
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 5: a situation where whatever peg you're trying to eh, you know,

889
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 5: now you got chipped corners. Now everything's screwed up. So

890
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 5: it's not gonna be the benefit of the team receiving

891
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 5: the player or the player himself. So that's my advice

892
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 5: to the Patriots unless you are absolutely in love with

893
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 5: the player who you're gonna draft at that position, then

894
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 5: move on, trade down, or find a different guy worth

895
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 5: the value of a third overall pick.

896
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: If the Patriots keep the third pick, you have to

897
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: take a quarterback. He can't say the New England Patriots

898
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: with a third pick, select Joe Alt offensive tackle, Notre Dame.

899
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: You can't do that because you could have gotten Joe

900
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: auled if you move down in the draft a few picks.

901
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: If you're gonna keep the third pick, you have to

902
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: take a quarterback because there are enough teams there that

903
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: are anxious to get into the mix as far as

904
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks are concerned. Right, let's talk about Jade and

905
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: Daniel versus Drake May and forget all the noise that

906
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: we're hearing about. You know, maybe Drake May is moving

907
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 2: down a notch, Jade and Daniels is moving up. Let's

908
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: just go back on to where they come out in college.

909
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: Because Jade and Daniels was at Arizona State for three years.

910
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of Jade and Daniels. At no

911
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: point during his run at Arizona State did I say, oh, yeah,

912
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: that guy's going to be a top three pick in

913
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: the draft. At no point he had promise, he had versatility,

914
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: but I never looked at Jade and Daniels as that

915
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 2: level of quarterback. And then he goes to LSU where

916
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: he's blessed with neighbors and some talent that they didn't

917
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: have at Arizona State, and all of a sudden he's

918
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: winning a Heisman Trophy and being projected as a top

919
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: level guy. Keep in mind, again, he's been in college

920
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: for five years. And then he got Drake May who

921
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: had an insane red shirt freshman year at North Carolina

922
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: and wasn't as good the next year. So he's been

923
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,479
Speaker 2: in college three years, really played two years, as Jade

924
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: Daniels has five years. And this has been sort of

925
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: the big question now with these guys who have these

926
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 2: extended careers. You know, whether it was Bo Nicks or

927
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix junior, have they have they reached their peak?

928
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: Because that's a lot of drafting. Is all right, we

929
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: know where they are now, but you've got to be

930
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: able to project three five years down the road how

931
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: much ceiling is there in their game?

932
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 3: All right, So between those two.

933
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: Guys, I want to get your thoughts of Jaden Daniels

934
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: versus Drake May in terms of rich Ornberger's thoughts in

935
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: terms of their future in the NFL.

936
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 5: I really like Jaden daniels game, and I understand that

937
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 5: he had really one superlative year in college football, and

938
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 5: I understand how that may look to some.

939
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 3: And by the way, that was Joe Burrow as well.

940
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 4: That was Joe Burrow, that was Josh Allen.

941
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 5: In fact, Josh had his best year of football when

942
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 5: he was a year away still from declaring himself eligible

943
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 5: for the draft. So actually he had a worse final

944
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 5: season in college football than the year that preceded it.

945
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 5: And the Bills took him, and he was a bit

946
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 5: of a project out of Wyoming, but they sculpted him

947
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 5: into a franchise quarterback, and so by year two you

948
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 5: could already see the light. By year three, it just

949
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 5: was very obvious that the Bills had made one of

950
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 5: the best decisions with their franchise in the history of

951
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 5: their franchise in drafting.

952
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 4: Him when they did. Jaden Daniels, to me, is that

953
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 4: type of player. He is a great athlete.

954
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 5: He could take any run to the house at any

955
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 5: given moment. He's an effortless athlete, meaning when you watch

956
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 5: him run, it kind of looks like he's gliding, like

957
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 5: he's ice skating on the grass. He can throw any

958
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 5: throw in the NFL. That's requisite of a quarterback at

959
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 5: that level. He's a great deep ball thrower. So that's

960
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 5: the thing about him that I don't think it's enough

961
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 5: talk or credit is how accurate he is with the

962
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 5: football downfield and how important that is for so many

963
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 5: teams now at the NFL level connecting with these star

964
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 5: receivers who seem to be getting pumped out of the

965
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 5: draft year after year. If you don't have a quarterback

966
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 5: who can connect with them, and that isn't immediately obvious,

967
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 5: like a CJ. Stroud, for example, then you've got to

968
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 5: find a new quarterback because that is the best way

969
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 5: to threaten a defense in a league that is becoming

970
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 5: more and more difficult to play past defense. All the

971
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 5: NFL wants is more touchdowns scored through the air, not less,

972
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 5: and so if you don't have a good deep ball thrower,

973
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 5: then you should probably move on. So I watch Jayden

974
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 5: Daniels and I think to myself, like, well, well, there's

975
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 5: a guy who can not only hurt you as an

976
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 5: athlete and from the dual threat zone read RPO game,

977
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 5: but then when required to throw the ball downfield, he

978
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 5: can hurt you there as well.

979
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 4: So this is a unique talent coming out of the

980
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 4: draft this year.

981
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: All right, on the other side, I want to get

982
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: into the JJ McCarthy debate on just how good he

983
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: is and what is his draft value because his numbers

984
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: don't match up with some of these other quarterbacks. But

985
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: there are reasons behind that, and so I will give

986
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: other examples of quarterbacks who didn't have huge numbers coming

987
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: out of college, but if you looked at the numbers

988
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: that actually mattered most, their success really was already in

989
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: the books.

990
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 3: We'll explain.

991
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, rich Ronberger, Fox

992
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We are live from the tairaq dot Com Studios.

993
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: Things getting a little chippy here at the end of

994
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: the Celtics heat game. Game is a no doubt Celtics

995
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: right now with a nineteen point lead with thirty two

996
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: seconds left, but a hard foul against Jayson Tatum. So

997
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: this is what I'm talking about. You had to get

998
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: things heated up a little bit, get me into these

999
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: playoff series. So a heater are going to go down

1000
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: big in Game one. We'll see how Game two goes.

1001
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: Three more games coming up here in the NBA. As

1002
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: we get the first first round underway in the NBA,

1003
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: we're talking though about the NFL Draft, which is just

1004
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 2: four days away. I'm going to throw a couple of

1005
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: names out at you, Tom Brady and Joe Montana.

1006
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you could make an argument.

1007
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: I think those are the two most successful quarterbacks, certainly

1008
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: in terms of Super Bowls, tom Brady winning seven and

1009
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: of course Joe Montana perfect four for four. Now that

1010
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: one was projected to be any kind of superstar at

1011
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: the NFL level because you didn't see their names on

1012
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: any All American lists during their college days. In fact,

1013
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: they had very similar college careers where they shared quarterback

1014
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: duties for much of their time, Tom Brady at Michigan

1015
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: and Joe Montana at Notre Dame. And then finally they

1016
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 2: were able to set as starters in their senior year.

1017
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 2: But I always go back to their final games, final

1018
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: games of their collegiate career. Joe Montana's final game of

1019
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: his collegiate career was the Cotton Bowl game against the

1020
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 2: University of Houston. Notre Dame was trailing thirty four to

1021
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 2: twelve going into the fourth quarter, and they won twenty

1022
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: three unanswered points to pull the game.

1023
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 3: Out thirty five thirty four.

1024
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's final game at michiem was the Orange Bowl

1025
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: against Alabama game. They were down fourteen points twice in

1026
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: that game and Tom Brady, with a career high three

1027
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty nine yards passing four touchdowns, let a

1028
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 2: come from behind overtime victory in that game. So these

1029
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: are two of the greatest quarterbacks in the history NFL

1030
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: in terms of winning games that seemingly are lost. In

1031
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: other words, playing at the highest level when it matters

1032
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: the most. And they actually showed that in their college years,

1033
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: which brings me to JJ McCarthy. So this Michigan team

1034
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: this year pretty much blew out everybody, yep. But when

1035
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: they needed him the most was that semi final game

1036
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: against Alabama when Nick Saban, the genius that he is,

1037
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: was going toe toe for toe with that Michigan team

1038
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: leading late in that game, and at that point Michigan

1039
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: needed JJ McCarthy to step up, and he did. He

1040
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: tied the game, they won the game, in overtime. He

1041
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: ended up with two hundred and twenty one yards passing

1042
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: three touchdowns, no picks against that outstanding Alabama defense. And

1043
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: so when I look at JJ McCarthy, I know Chris

1044
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 2: here dismissing him like any team would make a huge

1045
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 2: mistake and drafted. Am I right, Chris that any team

1046
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 2: that would use a premium pick on JJ McCarthy or.

1047
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: Move up in the stress stake would be making state.

1048
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: So you're just desperate. You're just desperate at that point.

1049
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: You do you just see a quarterback and we played

1050
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: at Michigan. You don't see anything he actually did in

1051
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: this case, what he didn't do.

1052
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So Chris has been very consistent with it. But

1053
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not as quick to dismiss the

1054
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: idea that McCarthy maybe the real deal, much as Joe

1055
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: Montana and Tom Brady proved if you had watched them

1056
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: in their biggest games of their collegiate career, there was

1057
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: a magic, there was a special there was something that

1058
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 2: in factor that we constantly talk about.

1059
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 3: Rich does he have the if factor? Whatever that might be.

1060
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 3: They actually showed it. People ignored it.

1061
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Montana was a third round pick, and

1062
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: of course famously Tom Brady was a sixth round pick.

1063
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 3: I think that I think McCarthy might have it.

1064
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: You're leaving out dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens

1065
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: of guys who guys, like you have said had the

1066
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: if factor and didn't show it. I don't remember saying

1067
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: anything like that before. But like, this is this is

1068
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: a high this is a this is a control group.

1069
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: Here you've named two guys that have dozens of other

1070
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: guys that people through the years say, oh, he has

1071
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: the in factor, he just needs a chance, and they

1072
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: get the chance, and what they're bumps. They're bumps, that's

1073
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: who they were.

1074
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,479
Speaker 2: So I've been doing draft talk on radio for over

1075
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: thirty years and I have never missed on a single prediction.

1076
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 4: That's right, that's not I can attest to that. I've

1077
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: done about ten years of this with Steven.

1078
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: I could tell you just like I said, Josh Rosen

1079
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: may not have been great at UCLA, but you watch,

1080
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: you watch when he gets to the NFL. All right,

1081
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: So are you are you at least on the fence

1082
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: of McCarthy or are you with Chris.

1083
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: That if that if you move up in this draft.

1084
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: If you move up like the Vikings or the Broncos

1085
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: or the Raiders or teams that are looking for a quarterback,

1086
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 2: you know, moving out of your slot all the way

1087
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: to three, four or five in this draft to take

1088
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, you're making a mistake.

1089
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 5: Look, this is no offense to Chris, who watches a

1090
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Speaker 5: ton of football, especially at the NFL level his Detroit Lions. You.

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Speaker 5: This is no offense to anybody who speaks with certainty

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00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 5: this time of year. I promise you this is gonna

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00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 5: sound offensive to people who think they know what they're

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00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 5: talking about when it comes to draft analysis. But this

1095
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 5: is a blanket statement. So I'm not attacking any individual,

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Speaker 5: but anybody speaking with certainty this time of year.

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Speaker 4: Cannot be trusted. You just can't be.

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Speaker 5: Because there is no certainty in the NFL draft. I

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00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 5: played against guys and with guys who are bums in

1100
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 5: college who I thought up and down just could not play.

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Speaker 5: And then they got to the NFL and they figured

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Speaker 5: it all out, and sometimes it clicked in immediately and

1103
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 5: I was just like, wow, who is this guy? And

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00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 5: certain guys it took time and they were on the

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00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 5: practice squad and maybe they started taking the sport more seriously,

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Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, I see him down

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00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 5: the r and I'm like, well, this guy, all of

1108
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 5: a sudden is playing like a pro bowler, you know.

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Speaker 5: And then vice versa. I played with guys who are

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Speaker 5: all everything. In college. They looked like they were gonna

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00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 5: go to the National Football League because they had every

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Speaker 5: intangible covered. They were great at the sport, they were

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00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 5: great athletes, they were great students, they were great in

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00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 5: the community, they were great leaders, and they got to

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00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 5: the NFL and for whatever, for whatever reason, it just

1116
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 5: didn't work.

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00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 4: You know. The stage was.

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00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 5: Too big, the pressure was too much, too many injuries

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Speaker 5: once they got there.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: So luck plays a role obviously also, and that can't

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Speaker 5: be predicted.

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Speaker 4: But man, oh man, anybody who speaks.

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Speaker 5: With certainty right now about JJ McCarthy or any of

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Speaker 5: these quarterbacks, you have no idea what you're talking about,

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Speaker 5: because it has happened literally every year, every single year,

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Speaker 5: somebody surprises us. And it's either a good surprise or

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Speaker 5: a bad surprise, but somebody surprises us.

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Speaker 4: I mean CJ.

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Speaker 5: Stroud, for Crime Out Loud, was the second overall draft pick,

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01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 5: and it was still surprising how effective he was and

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Speaker 5: how much he lifted up that football program with the

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Speaker 5: Houston Texans. Because remember it's not just that CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 5: got drafted to a bad franchise. This is a franchise

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Speaker 5: that looked like they were left for dead. They had

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01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 5: a revolving cast of characters on the offensive line who

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01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 5: were bad when they were healthy. He had a bunch

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Speaker 5: of receivers. When we started this season, We're like, who's

1139
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 5: he thrown to? It was ridiculous, and the guy still

1140
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 5: had the talent to elevate that program. So even as

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Speaker 5: a second overall draft pick, CJ. Stroud was a surprise.

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Speaker 5: It happens every year, and sometimes guys surprised you in

1143
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 5: the opposite direction where you say, oh wow, this guy

1144
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 5: was supposed to be something and he got drafted by

1145
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 5: the wrong franchise at the wrong time, with the wrong

1146
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 5: set of coaches, or did not have the talent that

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 5: is requisite to have a success at the NFL level,

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Speaker 5: and we're surprised in a bad way. So, yeah, this

1149
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 5: is no offense to Chris or anybody who thinks that

1150
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy can't play at the next level. All I

1151
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 5: simply say to you is you have no idea because

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01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,959
Speaker 5: he hasn't played a snap at the NFL level.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, to me, is the prime example my thought

1154
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: about Josh Allen as imposing a physical figure as he was.

1155
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: This guy can't even complete sixty percent of his passes

1156
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: in the Mountwest Conference, That's right. How is he going

1157
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: to do that at the NFL level? Steve and he

1158
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: was such sixty.

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Speaker 5: So Josh Allen is the reason why I've adopted this opinion,

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Speaker 5: I promise you, okay. I was on live television one

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01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 5: night and I was talking about Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: He's struggling his rookie year.

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Speaker 5: I said, the problem for Buffalo is they have a

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Speaker 5: tight end masquerading as a quarterback and he's not even

1165
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Speaker 5: going to be a particularly good tight end in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: That was my thought process on Josh Allen, the prospect

1167
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 5: coming from Wyoming into the NFL, and what a bag

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Speaker 5: of whatever you call it that I was fighting, you know,

1169
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 5: the dude, I eat my hat. I tip that same

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Speaker 5: cap to Josh Allen because he is the reason why

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Speaker 5: I don't speak with certainty about prospects anymore. Because if

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Speaker 5: you're speaking with any certainty about prospects, whether we're talking

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01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 5: about stocks or we're talking about the business world with

1174
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 5: IPOs or startups. You know, I mean, look, you know Instagram.

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01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 5: It's one of the biggest social media platforms in the world.

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01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 5: It belongs to Meta, one of the biggest tech companies

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Speaker 5: the world has ever seen. One of the biggest companies

1178
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 5: the world has ever seen, started as a bourbon tasting

1179
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Speaker 5: app where people took pictures of their favorite whiskeys and

1180
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 5: posted them online Instagram. Right, So, you never know when

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01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 5: the next great idea, the next great player is coming along.

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01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 5: And anybody who is speaking with certainty about prospective things,

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01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 5: they haven't been burned enough, or they've stepped on that

1184
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 5: rake in the front lawn and they keep doing.

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Speaker 4: It and they haven't learned their lesson yet.

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Speaker 1: I also went throw a bajillion dollars at every idea

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Speaker 1: that comes along, too. I don't I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he will be great or not. All I will know

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Speaker 1: is that I'm not going to be a first spending

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Speaker 1: a first round pick on it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and you may be proven wrong.

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Speaker 5: Look that that's my point is you you can say

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01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 5: that and you can speak with certainty, right now and

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 5: sound like you know what you're talking about, because the

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Speaker 5: draft hasn't happened yet. We haven't seen JJ McCarthy play

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Speaker 5: it down at the NFL level. But the problem is,

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Speaker 5: all of a sudden, JJ McCarthy can ball, and you

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Speaker 5: want him.

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Speaker 4: To play for the Lions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you do imagine? Can you imagine?

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01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: Because obviously the Lions are very much a contender these days.

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01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 2: If they were to actually get in the Super Bowl

1203
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Speaker 2: and they play against a team that's led by JJ

1204
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: McCarthy and McCarthy, your Lions are standing there stunned on

1205
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Speaker 2: the sidelines.

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Speaker 8: It just that won't happen.

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Speaker 10: It just matters so much where and when he gets

1208
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 10: taken right exactly if he goes third over all to

1209
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 10: the Patriots throwing to like what the shell of Hunter

1210
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Speaker 10: Henry and whoever else they have out there, Like, he's

1211
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Speaker 10: obviously not going to succeed.

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Speaker 1: But I've heard all of these same arguments about mac

1213
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: Jones if he go to right place, have the time.

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Speaker 10: Okay, but like that is actually true.

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01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, Mac john never had the talent

1216
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: his well junior year is last year at Alabama. Remember

1217
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Speaker 2: he set the national record for completion percentage that year.

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Speaker 10: If JJ McCarthy somehow falls to like eleven to Minnesota,

1219
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Speaker 10: that's a much better spot for him to be, and

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Speaker 10: the Vikings would have no issue taking him at eleven.

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01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 3: Well, it's exactly what the question is.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings at eleven, the Broncos at twelve, the Raiders

1223
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: at thirteen. Right, they're all in the mix for a quarterback.

1224
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: Are any of those teams comfortable with the idea that

1225
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: he could be sitting there?

1226
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, say no, it's the Vikings. They will

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01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: absolutely not sit him. They need him to play. Right now, Well,

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Speaker 1: that does sound like a truth there.

1231
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 5: You know that I could agree with if you start

1232
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 5: the season with Sam Donald.

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01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 4: Even if you start the.

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01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 5: Season with Sam Donald, the chance is that he's your

1235
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 5: starting quarterback for the entirety of the season. Here in

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01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, I would say, are slim at best.

1237
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Speaker 5: I would say if you draft a first round quarterback,

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Speaker 5: most likely in Minnesota, he is going to get at

1239
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 5: very least some, if not the majority, of the playing

1240
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 5: time this season. Because Sam Donald many times over now

1241
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 5: it has appeared like it's not working for him as

1242
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 5: an NFL quarterback. Now again, we go back to conversations

1243
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 5: about other players who have had a long wait and

1244
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 5: then figured it out.

1245
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 4: That is a short list.

1246
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 5: But Kurt Warner comes to mind the season that Gino

1247
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 5: Smith had recently with the Seattle Seahawks two seasons ago.

1248
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 5: Now that was a breakout year for him, earn him

1249
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 5: a huge contract. You know, it can happen where a

1250
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 5: guy can have that special moment where it all comes

1251
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 5: together for him later in his career. But my guess

1252
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 5: is if JJ McCarthy is drafted by the Vikings, he's

1253
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,959
Speaker 5: going to be foisted into action sooner rather than later.

1254
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Speaker 2: Vikings are a very intriguing team for a number of

1255
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: fronts going into this draft. We'll get into why they are,

1256
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 2: but first let's find out what is trending right now.

1257
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: And the scoreboard has been lighting up in multiple sports today,

1258
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: mister Kevin Wire.

1259
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we got so much going on right now. NBA playoffs,

1260
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 9: NHL Stanley Cup playoffs, Major League Baseball, just a full

1261
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 9: day of sports and I'm.

1262
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 8: Here for all of it.

1263
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 9: It just finished in at Boston, the Celtics running away

1264
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 9: with it against the Miami Heat, won fourteen ninety four.

1265
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 9: It was kind of expected it was a fourteen and

1266
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 9: a half point line in favor of Boston going into

1267
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 9: this game because Jimmy Butler not playing and he's expected

1268
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 9: to be out multiple weeks with his MCL injuries, So

1269
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 9: it was gonna be a tall task for Miami to

1270
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 9: be able to beat Boston, and it just was not

1271
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 9: in the cards.

1272
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 8: Today.

1273
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 4: The postseason will.

1274
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 5: Begin with a twenty point one the finals score in

1275
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 5: Game one, Boston war fourteen Miami ninety.

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Speaker 9: Four Celtics Radio Network. There with that final call. Jason

1277
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 9: Tatum a triple double in this game. He had twenty three,

1278
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 9: ten and ten, also had himself a couple of steals

1279
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 9: as well an outstanding performance. Six guys for the Celtics

1280
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 9: in a double figures for the game. Christops Perzingis had

1281
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 9: eighteen points. You had Derek White with twenty, Jalen Brown

1282
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 9: had seventeen, Sam Houser twelve off the bench, Al Warford

1283
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 9: man turning back the clock, he had himself ten points

1284
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 9: on four of eight shooting. As for the heat, Bam

1285
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 9: out of Bayou the top of the score sheet there

1286
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 9: twenty four points. He finished ten of seventeen shooting, also

1287
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 9: at himself six rebounds and three assists as Boston takes

1288
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 9: a one nothing series lead in this best of seven

1289
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 9: contest coming up in the next few minutes about to

1290
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 9: tip off any moment.

1291
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 8: Mavericks and a Clippers.

1292
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 9: And stop me if you've heard this before, but Kawhi

1293
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 9: Leonard not going to appear in a playoff game four,

1294
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 9: the Clippers Tyler ruling him out and yesterday practice he

1295
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 9: didn't even face contact, so it wasn't even looking likely

1296
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 9: leading into this matchup that he was going to play,

1297
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 9: and he is going to be out as the Clippers

1298
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 9: face a Mavericks team with Luka Doncic. I just saw

1299
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 9: a stat he has either scored or assisted for an

1300
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 9: average of fifty seven point two points per game this season.

1301
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 8: That is the most in NBA history.

1302
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 9: So Luka Doncic chopping at the bit to get this

1303
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 9: series started. At seven o'clock would be the Bucks and

1304
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 9: Pacers in Milwaukee. The nightcap at nine thirty Pelicans and

1305
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 9: Thunder out in Oklahoma City. Stanley Cup Playoffs, first Round

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Speaker 9: Game one in the Eastern Conference, an all Sunshine State

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Speaker 9: affair between the Panthers and Lightning as Florida wins it

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Speaker 9: three to two. Next game coming up just got started

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Speaker 9: actually out at Madison Square Garden. They are in the

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Speaker 9: first period A. Capitals and Rangers are scoreless. Major League

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Speaker 9: Baseball several games in action right now as we speak,

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Speaker 9: and the Orioles two nothing over the Royals. They are

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Speaker 9: on the top of the six inning, Guardians leading the

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Speaker 9: Athletics three two in the seventh, red shutting out the

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Speaker 9: Angels three nothing in the seventh, Yankees on top of

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Speaker 9: the race five to one in the seventh. In the

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Speaker 9: eighth inning, it's the Nationals over the Astros sixth to nothing,

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Speaker 9: Phillies leading the White Sox seven to two and of

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Speaker 9: the sixth inning, and the Red Sox leading the Pirates

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Speaker 9: four to one in the in the eighth inning. Fifth inning,

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Speaker 9: it's scoreless between the Brewers and the Cardinals. Also in

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Speaker 9: the fifth inning in Minneapolis, Tigers leading the Twins for nothing,

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Speaker 9: Marlins on top of the Cup's four to three in

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Speaker 9: the fifth and in the second inning, scoreless matchup game

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Speaker 9: one of a doubleheader between the Mariners and the Rockies,

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Speaker 9: and coming up in about half an hour. We've got

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Speaker 9: three more games diving Backs and Giants in San Francisco,

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Speaker 9: met some Dodgers out in Los Angeles Blue Jays will

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Speaker 9: face the Hadres in San Diego.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, Hi, Kevin, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I never thought we would ever see

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01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: ball hoggery to a higher level than we saw back

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Speaker 2: in the day with James Harden when he was a

1334
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 2: Houston Rocket, until I watch Doncic with the Alice Mavericks.

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Speaker 2: You talk about a guy that dominates the basketball. I

1336
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: mean it's like, wow, you remember Hardened with the Rockets.

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Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. I mean, he had the balls seemingly.

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Speaker 2: I remember you remember they actually had a stat. I'd

1339
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: hate to be the stat guy that had to do this.

1340
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Speaker 2: Which player in the league dribbled the ball more? You

1341
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 2: imagine being the guys like they had a stat, like

1342
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: somebody's got to count dribbles. And Harden's number was double

1343
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: like any other player in the league. And I thought, well,

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01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 2: you just never ever see that level of monopolizing a

1345
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: basketball as we saw with Harden with the Rockets. Doncic

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01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: is at even another level. I mean, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: seemingly when you watch the Mavericks play, the ball is

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Speaker 2: in its hands constantly.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And you talk about a guy I know that and

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01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 2: Yoga should be the league's MVP and expected to be

1352
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: the MVP for the third time in four years. But

1353
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 2: when you look at Doncic led the league in scoring

1354
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: almost thirty four points a game, rebounds, tenn assist, pretty

1355
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: ridiculous numbers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, most likely he'll finish second of the voting.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be an interesting matchup, most definitely with

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01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: the Clippers and Mavericks, although it seems likely the Clipper

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Speaker 2: is going to have to do it without Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what's fascinating is the fact that he is on

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01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 5: the same team with one of the NBA's best dribblers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, you know, so if you.

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Speaker 5: Think about it, the domination that you know of the

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Speaker 5: amount of time he has with possession of the basketball. Like, meanwhile,

1366
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 5: inarguably the best ball handler in the league. And I'm

1367
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 5: pretty sure if you pulled every single player in the

1368
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 5: NBA is also plays with the Mavericks and it's Kyrie Irving.

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 5: So it's it's an interesting situation. But that goes to

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Speaker 5: show you, Look, I mean, this is a star driven

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 5: league and Kyrie had his time when he was playing

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Speaker 5: Robin to betman out in Cleveland, where it appeared he

1373
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 5: was an emerging star, and he you know, went off

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Speaker 5: on his own.

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Speaker 4: He separated himself. He you know, came out from under

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01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 4: the wing.

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Speaker 5: I think his first stop was in Boston, right with

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01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 5: the Celtics, and that didn't work there. And then it

1379
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 5: was the super team that was supposed to be in Brooklyn,

1380
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 5: and that didn't work out there. And you know, here

1381
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 5: he is in Dallas, and I think he's back in

1382
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 5: a role which makes a lot of sense to Kyrie

1383
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 5: in terms of his career trajectory, which is to kind

1384
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 5: of play sidekick to a superstar.

1385
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Speaker 4: And that's what's happened with Luca.

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Speaker 2: If you're just talking pure basketball talent, Kyrie Irving is

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01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 2: on a very short list. Yeah, I mean, if you're

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01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 2: just talking about basketball skills, Kyrie Irving is one of

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01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: the top five players in this league in terms of skills. Now,

1390
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 2: there's a lot of components into what makes you a

1391
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 2: great player. He is a legitimate All Star, he's an

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01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 2: NBA champion, but on this team, I mean, again, it's

1393
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: amazing that he averaged over twenty five points a game

1394
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: when he got Danci on the same team all right

1395
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: on the other side, I would do want to get

1396
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 2: to this Minnesota Vikings team because of all the teams

1397
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 2: going into this draft, to me, they have the most

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Speaker 2: weight in terms of what are they going to do

1399
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Speaker 2: getting into this draft. We'll break it down. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Hornberger here, Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We are live from the ti iraq dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: I want to make a quick mention here. As you know,

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01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: my partner, Rich has wearing many hats these days, multitude

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01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 2: of talents in the broadcast industry, and it was just

1405
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: announced that he and a very dear friend of ours

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Speaker 2: will team up as the broadcast team for San Diego

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Speaker 2: State football for the twenty twenty four season. John Schaefer, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the pride of your state and of course of Lower

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01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: mary In high school where at one point he was

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01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 2: in the same high school as a guy named Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, a couple of years behind Kobe.

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Speaker 2: He will replace an absolute San Diego legend and Ted

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01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: Leitner as the voice of the ad Tex Big Shoes

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01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: to fill for John. But of course you, John and

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01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: I actually did a show together for a while in

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Speaker 2: San Diego, so I did text John and congratulated him.

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Speaker 3: His responses, who are you?

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Speaker 2: No, he does he Actually we had this legendary story

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01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: about when John first came to our radio station.

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01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 3: He would like say hey you to me, and I

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01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 3: was like, please you tell me. You don't know who

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01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 3: I am? You know, And it was start of ongoing joke.

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Speaker 3: He was very excited to hear from me.

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Speaker 2: But anyway I'm looking forward is hopefully I'll have a

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01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 2: bounce back year for the ad TECs this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, looking forward to a better season on the football field.

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 5: But in terms of the broadcast situation, which isn't something

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01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 5: that often makes news. But yeah, look Ted Lightner, I

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01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 5: can't say enough good things about him. Yeah, Ted, like

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Speaker 5: you mentioned and appropriately so, is a legend. He his

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01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 5: voice is has lent soundtrack to some of the greatest

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Speaker 5: moments in San Diego sports history.

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Speaker 2: Forty years with the Padres broadcast team. I mean, wherever

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01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 2: you're listening from right now, you know, these broad the

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: local broadcasters that are around forever and ever, really become

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Speaker 2: the voice of a city, yep.

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Speaker 4: Yep, And that is Ted Lightner.

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Speaker 5: And I also learned a tremendous amount from a personal

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Speaker 5: standpoint from working with him. He's one of the greatest

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Speaker 5: characters in broadcasts that you'll ever come across. YEP, and

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01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 5: also possess his great characters. So I'll miss him in

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Speaker 5: the booth, but I am thrilled to be joined by

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01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 5: John and that's gonna be a lot of fun because

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01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 5: you know, how do.

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Speaker 3: Two Penn State guys end up at San Diego State?

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01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,919
Speaker 4: I do you? Who knows the world is so crazy?

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01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 2: And to talk to g there, does he understand what

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01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 2: you just s? You have two Penn State guys in

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01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 2: the booth doing San Diego State.

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 5: What's so funny is yeah, like this collection of characters,

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01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 5: like the athletic director has a Southern accent. You have

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01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 5: two Penn Staters calling your San Diego State Aztecs football games,

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01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 5: and you just moved on from the longtime voice of

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01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 5: the San Diego State ass Sex football team who was

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01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 5: born in Queens, New York.

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Speaker 2: Right West coast guys. So yeah, yeah, here's the bottom line.

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01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 2: Who doesn't want to live in San Diego?

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01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 4: All right?

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01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 3: So that's the bottom line there, all right. I want

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01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 3: to get to the vikings right now.

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01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 2: So I still believe they were one hundred percent blindsided

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01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: by the kirk Cousins situation. I don't think in their

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01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 2: wildest streams they ever thought that an offer like what

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01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 2: the Falcons gave kirk Cousins was going to be on

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Speaker 2: the table.

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01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 4: But now they have to move on.

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 2: So here you are the Vikings. You have the eleventh

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01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 2: pick in the first round. You have the twenty third

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01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: pick in the first round. You have no second round picks,

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Speaker 2: you have no third round picks. So those two picks

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Speaker 2: are premium picks for a team that I still thinks

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01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 2: they're a playoff contending team. They were in the playoffs

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01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: two years ago. Obviously it was a miracle year eleven

1474
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: to zero run in one score games. That wasn't going

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01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 2: to happen again. But they need a quarterback again. Sam Darnold, unfortunately,

1476
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 2: is the turnover machine at the pro level that he

1477
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 2: was at least his last year at USC.

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Speaker 3: So what do you do if you're the Vikings?

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Speaker 1: Do you?

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Because in order to move up into that let's say third,

1482
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 2: fourth or fifth spot in the draft to get the

1483
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 2: quarterback you want, you may have to give up both

1484
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: those picks eleven and twenty three, and you might be

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01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 2: sitting there twiddling your thumbs until the third day of

1486
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 2: the draft, with no picks on Day two, Are you

1487
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 2: willing to take that risk to take one of these

1488
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the draft?

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Speaker 5: It's man, I'll tell you. If you stand pat, it's

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01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 5: going to be difficult to get a quarterback. I believe

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01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 5: it would be difficult to get a quarterback with great

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01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 5: value where you sit. But if you trade up, like

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01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 5: you said, you are leveraging a lot to get to

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01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 5: where where you're even potentially seeing good value. So man alive.

1495
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 5: Like the Vikings are stuck between a rock and a

1496
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 5: hard place. The one benefit they have is Kevin O'Connell

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01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 5: is a tremendous offensive minded coach, and I do think

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01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 5: that he could get a lot out of Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how much, but I do think that

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01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 5: he If there's anybody who can sort of squeeze the

1501
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 5: sponge and get what's left out of a quarterback who's

1502
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 5: at a rocky road, I think it's koc. I think

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01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 5: he's I have a huge belief in his usage of

1504
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 5: formation and motion and offensive shifts and personnel groupings. It's

1505
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 5: a lot of this same things that he did when

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01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 5: he was with the Los Angeles Rams working under Sean McVeigh,

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01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 5: and he's instituted it in Minnesota, and I think, I, well,

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01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 5: I know, the reason why Kirk Cousins is arguably coming

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01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 5: off of two of his best seasons is has a

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Speaker 5: lot to do with him seeing the game through the

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Speaker 5: eyes of a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell was. You know, we're just talking about San

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01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 4: Diego State.

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Speaker 5: He was a great, one of the greatest quarterbacks ever

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01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 5: come out of San Diego State. Had a short stint

1516
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 5: in the NFL as a player. He was a backup

1517
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,799
Speaker 5: his whole career and then graduated to the coaching circuit

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Speaker 5: where he was tied to some of the most successful

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01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 5: coaches in our lifetime. So this is one of those

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01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 5: areas where I think the I think the Minnesota Vikings

1521
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 5: could punt in terms of picking a quarterback on this

1522
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 5: year's draft and still have something that resembles a successful

1523
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 5: season and then go back to the draft next year

1524
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 5: and see what they can see what they can do there.

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01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 5: I think they have the benefit of time, and the

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01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 5: only reason why is because of the coach that they

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01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 5: were able to procure two years ago.

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Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent. If I'm the Vikings stay

1529
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 2: with those two picks in the first round. Yeah, if

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01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 2: a quarterback falls, do you want?

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Speaker 4: Great?

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01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Whatever quarterback you have has the

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01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,839
Speaker 2: best receiver in the league in Justin Jefferson.

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01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 4: Yes he does.

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01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 3: He is the best wide receiver in the NFL.

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01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: That could be a big difference for a guy like

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01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold to maybe get back into the mix as

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01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: a quarterback. All right, coming up in the next hour,

1539
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: we got much more on these NBA players, more NFL

1540
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: draft talk. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Just a very

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Speaker 2: very busy time in the world of sports. We're trying

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01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 2: to bring it all to you as much as we

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Speaker 2: should be Right now. Clippers leading the Mavericks twenty four

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Speaker 2: to eight. Team as are actually three and a half

1550
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 2: point favorites going into this game with Kawhi Leonard on

1551
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: the bench. Zubots eight points. Who would I mean if

1552
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: you're the Clippers without your superstar. And believe me and

1553
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 2: I thought that our dear friend Monci Belogna is my

1554
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: Saturday broadcast partner now diehard Clippers fan. She said it

1555
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: right when she says Kawhi Leonard is the best player

1556
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: on the court when he wants to be in any game.

1557
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: And we've always seen that from Kawhi Leonard. There's a

1558
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 2: no question of how great a player Kawhi Leonard is.

1559
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: But if you're the Clippers right now and you're saying, well,

1560
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 2: Paul George is going to have to do it or

1561
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 2: James Hard No, no, no, no, somebody's going to have

1562
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 2: to jump out out of nowhere. And so far it's

1563
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 2: been zubots eight points early on. Clippers lead the Mavericks

1564
01:21:56,120 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 2: by score of twenty four to a team. John Paul

1565
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 2: Morosi's going to be Johnny Us coming up here in

1566
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: about twenty minutes to give us his predictions on the

1567
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup playoffs.

1568
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 3: And we got a lot of Major League Baseball to

1569
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 3: get to as well.

1570
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 2: And by the way, Rich, I do want to remind

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Speaker 2: everyone that you can catch Fox Sports Radio's Draft Night

1572
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 2: live through the first round of the draft this Thursday,

1573
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 2: beginning at eight pm Eastern, presented by Express Pros, the

1574
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 2: official employment agency of Fox Sports Radio's draft coverage insider

1575
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 2: Jay Glazer, Former Cardinals GM, Steve Kim, College Football Hall

1576
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 2: of Famer LeVar Arrington, Big Newton kickoffs. Rob Stone will

1577
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: have pick by pick predictions and reactions to every first

1578
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 2: round pick. That's Thursday, eight pm Eastern, throughout the entire

1579
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: first round of the Draft, live right here on Fox

1580
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: Sports Radio and the iHeart app, presented by Express Pros.

1581
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: You remember that year that you and I did the

1582
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 2: Draft show that I think we were on the air

1583
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 2: for what was it six hours something like that. Yeah,

1584
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 2: remember we are at that.

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01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 4: I think it was sports far more than I think

1586
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 4: it's close to seven hours. Steve.

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01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just went on and on and on and on.

1588
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 2: I mean, what's gonna happen on Thursday. There's not gonna

1589
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 2: be any surprise with the first pick in the draft.

1590
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: The first pick of the draft is gonna be Caleb Williams,

1591
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 2: And you know, the Bears are gonna just sit there.

1592
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 2: The clock's gonna be running and running and running, and like, come.

1593
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 3: On, it's gonna day forever.

1594
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 2: Just say it Kayleb Williams quarterback University of Southern California.

1595
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 3: But that's not how they operate.

1596
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: And I and I really think once we get after

1597
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,799
Speaker 2: the first pick, I think I think even the Commanders

1598
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: at too. I mean, everyone seems to think they're gonna

1599
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: take jayde and Daniels. Ultimately, I think that's going to

1600
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 2: be the case. But if you're the Commanders, I you know,

1601
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna get desperate. That's why we were talking about

1602
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 2: the Vikings on the other side. Don't get desperate Minnesota, No,

1603
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 2: dabt keep the eleventh and twenty third picks. You're gonna

1604
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 2: get some good players. They're gonna help you out at

1605
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 2: those picks. If you draft right, using both those picks

1606
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: to move up for JJ McCarthy or Drake May No, no, no, no,

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01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 2: no no, it doesn't make sense. In fact, yesterday I

1608
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: was talking to Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider,

1609
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 2: and if you look at his mock draft, he doesn't

1610
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 2: have any trades none.

1611
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 3: I said, Do you don't think there he goes? Of

1612
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 3: course there will be, but I don't.

1613
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 2: I don't do a mock draft based on trades, right,

1614
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: you know, because a lot of times trades come from

1615
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 2: teams that no one projected to make a trade.

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01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 3: That happens every year.

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01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well, and what's what's fascinating is we've have

1618
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 5: had years recently, in fact, where there were no trades

1619
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 5: in the first round.

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01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's often that you see trades.

1621
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 5: It's rare that you see a full first round without

1622
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 5: any but but yeah, it has happened before, so it's

1623
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 5: difficult to predict. And it also, again, it all comes

1624
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 5: down to value. It comes down to if there is

1625
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 5: a team on the clock who perceives that the value

1626
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:07,879
Speaker 5: of a player where they're available at superseds their desire

1627
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 5: to have later round draft picks where they got to

1628
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 5: package a couple.

1629
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 4: Of picks together and move up and go and get

1630
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 4: that guy. And we've seen that many times.

1631
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 5: We've seen Look, we've seen that many times where it's

1632
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 5: worked out, like for example, the Kansas City Chiefs moving

1633
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 5: up a couple of picks to grab Patrick Mahomes where

1634
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 5: he was available because remember he didn't fall to them.

1635
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 5: The Chiefs went up and got him, and they had

1636
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 5: a franchise quarterback in Alex Smith. They were paying him

1637
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 5: like a franchise quarterback. He was playing like a franchise quarterback.

1638
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 5: He was getting them to the playoffs every year. The

1639
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 5: problem was Alex Smith had a ceiling and they looked

1640
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 5: at a player like Patrick Mahomes, especially where he was

1641
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 5: available falling in the first round, and they said, we

1642
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 5: got to go up and get this guy before somebody

1643
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 5: else does because we fell in love with him, and

1644
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 5: we said, if he falls to this certain level of

1645
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 5: the first round, we're gonna go get him.

1646
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 4: But we don't. I think he will.

1647
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 5: And here he is, so fellas, let's get on the

1648
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 5: phone and let's let's make a trade. And that's exactly

1649
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,839
Speaker 5: what happens. So it has worked out before where teams

1650
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 5: have had great successes. And then obviously we've seen, you know,

1651
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 5: players like Mitch Trubisky where you know a team will

1652
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 5: move up in the draft, like Chicago will to go

1653
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 5: and get Mitch Trubisky who played a single season at

1654
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 5: Duke and then went on to kind of flame out

1655
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 5: with the Chicago Bears, and.

1656
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 4: You know, now he's a backup in the league. So

1657
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 4: it happens both ways.

1658
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: You know, history is a big part of the draft

1659
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: in terms of the perspective of certain teams of certain

1660
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 2: schools producing great players at a certain position. Let me

1661
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 2: l's use a prime example of this, right, So, you

1662
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 2: had Joe Burrow that seemingly came out of nowhere to

1663
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 2: have still the greatest single season of any quarterback in

1664
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 2: college football history what he did with LSU undefeated national

1665
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: champions and he was thrown to a couple guys named

1666
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson who have been every bit,

1667
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 2: if not better than advertise at the NFL level. And

1668
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 2: now you have almost a repeat situation with the same school.

1669
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: Have Jaden Daniels out of nowhere having this super superstar

1670
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 2: year to win the Heisman Trophy, and its wide receivers

1671
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors and Brian Thomas Junior are now both projected

1672
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 2: by many to.

1673
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,560
Speaker 3: Be top ten picks on the coattails of their quarterback.

1674
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 3: Do you buy into that?

1675
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: I mean we When you think about Penn State right

1676
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 2: linebacker university and they've had so many great linebackers that

1677
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 2: have gone down into great success at the NFL level,

1678
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: do you buy in that when you look at these

1679
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 2: receivers out of LSU saying, wow, we've seen you know,

1680
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase and we've seen justin Jefferson. Now Neighbors and

1681
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 2: Thomas are going to be just like them. You got

1682
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 2: to be that, you know, because they played at LSU

1683
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 2: and they know how to produce wide receivers.

1684
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 4: I think it can.

1685
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 5: I think typically. I think typically it happens for two reasons.

1686
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 5: One because because there is a moniker that is used

1687
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 5: as a recruiting tool. Like forever, Penn State has been

1688
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 5: referred to as LBU linebacker, you, LeVar Arrington, Paul Pazlesni,

1689
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 5: most recently Micah Parson.

1690
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the origins of jack Ham. Jack Ham,

1691
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 2: you know, way back in the day. I mean yeah,

1692
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 2: I mean they've always produced these great linebackers. Shane Conlin.

1693
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 5: Shane Conlin another great example, like so you've had you've

1694
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 5: had this rich history that I promise you it's used

1695
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,560
Speaker 5: as a recruiting tool because it was used on some

1696
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 5: of my best friends on the football team.

1697
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 3: Wasn't there a guy named Navarro Bowman?

1698
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 5: Navarro Bowman who I think should be a Hall of Famer.

1699
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 5: I don't know if he ever will get well.

1700
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 3: He had four unreal seasons, dude.

1701
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 5: And I mean one of the most dominant linebackers. He

1702
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 5: and Patrick Willis with the San Francisco forty nine ers.

1703
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 5: But so the list of great linebackers out of Penn

1704
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 5: State goes on and on and on, and the point being,

1705
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 5: you know, there is a reason that they keep going

1706
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 5: to Penn State because it's a self fulfilling prophecy.

1707
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 4: You get to recruit that. You get to go to these.

1708
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 5: Living room couches and talk to parents and say, look

1709
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 5: how many first rounders at linebacker. Look how many Pro

1710
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 5: Football Hall of Famers at linebacker? Look how many College

1711
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 5: Football Hall of famers at linebacker. We have come to

1712
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 5: Penn State. We're going to make your son a college

1713
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 5: football Hall of Famer. You know, same thing with LSU

1714
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 5: with their receivers.

1715
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:33,480
Speaker 4: You know, same thing with Frankly USC with quarterbacks.

1716
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not saying many USC quarterbacks have had

1717
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 5: a tremendous amount of success at the NFL level, but

1718
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 5: how many of them have gotten drafted over the years

1719
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 5: or one Heisman's over the years? You know. So there's

1720
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 5: certain programs that do a good job of lowering a

1721
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 5: certain position positional talent to their program because history helps

1722
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,560
Speaker 5: them recruit those positions.

1723
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at I I buy into these receivers.

1724
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 2: I mean, forget which school they play for. Both these guys,

1725
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 2: Thomas and Neighbors are are big time town. We could

1726
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 2: see as many as four wide receivers taken in the

1727
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 2: first ten picks of this draft, and that's certainly a

1728
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 2: sign of where this league is coming. All right, On

1729
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 2: the other side, we're going to catch up with one

1730
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 2: of our favorite people in the world, talking not only

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, but his predictions on the upcoming Stanley

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Speaker 2: Cup playoffs. A great John Paul Morosi joins us. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday. So, Chris, you have no idea

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Speaker 2: that this music you're playing right here.

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Speaker 3: I'm more of a word.

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Speaker 2: It was the background music for a sponsor that I

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Speaker 2: had for many, many years. I will not mention them

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Speaker 2: right now where I would sing to this music a

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Speaker 2: pitch for them. Well, now that you told me this,

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Speaker 2: it's going to play every show you Now in my head,

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Speaker 2: I almost want to break out in song, but I can't.

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Speaker 2: You're not a sponsor here with you really want to

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Speaker 2: break out?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: Once again, this is Fox Sports Sunday. You can take

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Speaker 2: it music video catch music.

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Speaker 3: To certain moments in your life. Or people in your life.

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Speaker 3: But in this case, I actually attach it to a

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Speaker 3: long time sponsor.

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Speaker 1: I attached to Christopher Walkin once again.

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Speaker 2: We are live from the Tairaq dot com studios and

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Speaker 2: the Clippers are looking really good right now.

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Speaker 4: I'll put it this way.

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Speaker 3: They're up forty to twenty three on the Mavericks.

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Speaker 2: The Clippers are shooting fifty nine percent and the Mavericks

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Speaker 2: are shooting twenty eight percent in this game right now.

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Speaker 3: So so far, so good for the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: And actually they've been showing literally after every Clippers basket,

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Speaker 2: they've been showing Kawhi.

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Speaker 4: On the bench, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: You know?

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Speaker 2: This is when we talk about the idea of sort

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Speaker 2: of rallying the troops when the big gun is down.

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Speaker 3: There's something to be said about that. So we'll keep

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Speaker 3: eye on that guy.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of big guns, we got the biggest joining us

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Speaker 2: right now to cover everything on the Major League Baseball front,

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Speaker 2: and eventually he'll be giving us his prediction on the

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Speaker 2: upcoming Stanley Cup Finals. The Great John Paul Morosi is

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Speaker 2: joining us JP. I would start with hockey, but I

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Speaker 2: want to start with a little baseball right now, or

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Speaker 2: leave the hockey predictions to the end. So yesterday the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers lost for the sixth time in eight games on

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Speaker 2: their homestand. And yes, the reason I talked Dodgers is

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Speaker 2: this is a team that invested over one point three

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Speaker 2: billion dollars in new contracts in the offseason, so they

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Speaker 2: have relevance. But the top three guys in the lineup,

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Speaker 2: Mookie Bets, show Hey Otani and Freddie Freeman combined, we're

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Speaker 2: four for seven.

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Speaker 8: With eight walks.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the Dodgers lineup was two for twenty

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Speaker 2: four with thirteen strikeouts, and they went down to defeat.

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Speaker 2: It'll be the first time they've had a nine game

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Speaker 2: homestand in which they lose all three series since two

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Speaker 2: thousand and five. So it looks like the Mets have

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Speaker 2: found a formula for others to follow. Don't throw Mookie

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Speaker 2: or show Hey or Freddie as strike unless you have to,

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Speaker 2: because the rest of the lineup is worthless. Do the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers have problems right now or is this just an

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Speaker 2: isolated bad stretch.

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Speaker 11: Well, first of all, good afternoon. Always love our conversations.

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Speaker 11: But my answer to you on that one is there

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Speaker 11: are some concerns with this team. I would stop short

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Speaker 11: of saying that it's a panic moment. I would stop

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Speaker 11: short of saying they have to dramatically reshape the roster.

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Speaker 11: But what is clear to me is that if people

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Speaker 11: expected this to be one hundred and ten wins juggernaut

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Speaker 11: and just plow right through the National League all season long,

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Speaker 11: that's not happening. They're a good baseball team. They are.

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Speaker 11: They're a good team, but they are not yet a

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Speaker 11: historically great team or even a great team.

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Speaker 4: Yet.

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Speaker 11: They're a good baseball team, and they're running close right

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Speaker 11: now to where the Podres are. They're a solid ball club.

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Speaker 11: But where the Dodgers I believe have come up short

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Speaker 11: is in a few different ways. Number One, Freddie Freeman

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Speaker 11: hasn't hit a ton yet that I think has been

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Speaker 11: even within that Big three. Mookie's numbers are great. Show

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Speaker 11: his numbers are great, with the exception of, obviously the

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Speaker 11: conversations surrounding him in runners of scoring position situations, Freeman's

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Speaker 11: been okay to start this season. Will Smith has been solid,

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Speaker 11: but you're right after will Smith, the production drops off substantially.

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Speaker 11: And part of the issue there is that with the

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Speaker 11: opposition pitching feeling comfortable in how they approach the second

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Speaker 11: half of the Dodger lineup, they're not as stressed when

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Speaker 11: the top is up that they're able to really conserve

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Speaker 11: their energy and approach the top three hitters with all

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Speaker 11: their energy. And then now that they're coasting in the

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Speaker 11: second half, but it's an easier part of the lineup

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Speaker 11: to pitch two and the rotation. They've had some injuries

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Speaker 11: there and they have not been able to win a

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Speaker 11: lot of super low scoring games where where show Ay

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Speaker 11: or Mookie could get a big hit and it's going

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Speaker 11: to stand up in a two to one game. So

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Speaker 11: they're a good team. They're a good team, they're not

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Speaker 11: a great team. And so this is going to feel

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Speaker 11: for the Dodgers much more like a regular season that

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Speaker 11: has its ups and downs, as opposed to a glide

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Speaker 11: path to October that some were expecting.

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Speaker 4: JP.

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Speaker 5: I read a stat last weekend after we had interviewed,

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Speaker 5: and I saved it for this week. At the start

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Speaker 5: of plays of as of Sunday last week, there had

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Speaker 5: been two hundred three total games played and during those

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Speaker 5: two hundred three total games, four hundred and twenty two

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Speaker 5: home runs, which is a rate of just above two

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Speaker 5: per game.

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Speaker 4: Through April fourteenth.

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Speaker 5: Last season, there had been two hundred and seven games

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Speaker 5: and there was a rate of two point three seven

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Speaker 5: homers per game, which is a twelve.

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Speaker 4: Percent decrease year over year.

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Speaker 5: Now, normally we make excuses beginning of the season, there's

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Speaker 5: always a slow stretch because obviously the chillier weather in

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Speaker 5: a lot of these markets. But this is year over year,

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Speaker 5: and it's the exact same timeframe, almost the exact same

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Speaker 5: number of games. And then you add to that the

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Speaker 5: fact that there's a lot of top level ace pitchers

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Speaker 5: who are on the il this year. So do you

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Speaker 5: have an explanation for maybe the slowdown in homers this

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Speaker 5: year compared to last.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a great question, and I think, to me, Rich,

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Speaker 11: the answer is the same one that explains the amount

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Speaker 11: of injuries that we're seeing for pitchers right now, which

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Speaker 11: is the chase for velocity this is and the amount

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Speaker 11: of power stuff. I had a longtime manager tell me recently, John,

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Speaker 11: it is harder to hit now than ever, and much

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Speaker 11: harder to hit than during this manager's playing career. And

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Speaker 11: I think that as a result, you're just seeing twofold

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Speaker 11: number one, these pitchers who are running it into the

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Speaker 11: red with their velocity all the time and throwing ninety

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Speaker 11: mile an hour sliders. They're breaking down. But guess what,

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Speaker 11: there's another cadre of pitchers, maybe not with the same

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Speaker 11: name recognition, but with similar stuff filling in right behind them,

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Speaker 11: with also ninety eight mile an hour fastballs and eighty

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Speaker 11: nine to ninety mile an hour sliders. It is still

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Speaker 11: really hard to hit. Pitch design, the way that game

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Speaker 11: plans go still are all in favor of, I think,

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Speaker 11: advantaging pitchers, and offensively, we still have not seen that

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Speaker 11: many guys able to adjust to the adjustments and find

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Speaker 11: additional ways to elevate the ball. Now, listen, there's still

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Speaker 11: plenty of guys that have having great starts of the season.

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Speaker 11: There are some tremendous starts to the year. Look at

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Speaker 11: Josh Naylor, what he's done with Cleveland. He's off to

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Speaker 11: a phenomenal start. So there are a lot of still

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Speaker 11: a lot of good hitting But I think to your

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Speaker 11: point Rich that the marginal players. There's a lot of teams,

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Speaker 11: and I know we talk a lot about the Dodgers,

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Speaker 11: and we should, but look around baseball, a lot of

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Speaker 11: teams have second half of the lineups that look like

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Speaker 11: the Dodgers second half of the lineup, and I just

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Speaker 11: think the pitching continues, continues to outpace the hitting, and

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Speaker 11: even with the ban on shifting and other elements in

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Speaker 11: the game right now, they have not done enough to

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Speaker 11: help a lot of the hitters put the ball and

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Speaker 11: play more often.

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Speaker 2: The Yankees are sitting in first place and the fans

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Speaker 2: are booing Aaron Judge, let me ask you this. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: he's off to a rough start, certainly in comparison to

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Speaker 2: Juan Soto, who has been like an MVP so far

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Speaker 2: for this Yankees team. Do you think that the great

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Speaker 2: success of Soto out of the box has had the

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Speaker 2: adverse effect on Aaron Judge, who's been the man in

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Speaker 2: this Yankees lineup for obviously the last decade or so.

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Speaker 11: No, I really don't think so. And Judge, to your point,

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Speaker 11: he hasn't had a great start to the year. He

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Speaker 11: did get a hit today, he's you know, his average

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Speaker 11: is still below two hundred. I get it. I understand

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Speaker 11: the pressure, but with him, this is not like the

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Speaker 11: Jose Breky situation, which where he looks so lost. I

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Speaker 11: think Judge is having a slow start. I believe he'll

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Speaker 11: get out of it. I'm not gonna predict that he's

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Speaker 11: gonna get sixty two homers again, but he'll be better.

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Speaker 11: And I do not think that Judge in any way

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Speaker 11: is pressing because Soda has played well, or that it's

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Speaker 11: in some way impacting the way that he's gone about

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Speaker 11: things because Wan is in the lineup. But I think

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Speaker 11: Judge will come around. And part of the reason why

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01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 11: I do think he'll come around is that the environment

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Speaker 11: around him is conducive to him figuring it out. I

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Speaker 11: think that maybe there is a bit of adjustment on

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Speaker 11: his part about our pitchers approaching him differently because he's

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Speaker 11: following Soto. Maybe maybe there's a little bit of a

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Speaker 11: change there. But I think he'll get there. And the

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Speaker 11: important thing for the Yankees, they won another one run

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Speaker 11: game today. They're winning close games, they're playing good baseball,

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Speaker 11: and they're getting back to being the team that we

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Speaker 11: thought they were going to be last year. So I

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Speaker 11: think by and large, while yes, there have been some

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Speaker 11: booze for Judge, I think overall it's been a phenomenal

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Speaker 11: start to the year for the Yankees, especially when you

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Speaker 11: consider that Garrett Cole is not yet back on the

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Speaker 11: active rosters. This is all very good news for the Yankees,

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Speaker 11: and certainly congratulations to John Sterling. What an amazing career

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Speaker 11: and run for him calling the Yankees games. I'm going

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Speaker 11: to miss seeing him in the press box, all the

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Speaker 11: great conversations we've had over the years. But it's just

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Speaker 11: been all I think overall, pretty emotional and productive start

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Speaker 11: to the year there in New York.

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Speaker 5: Hey, are the Kansas City Royals a real contender this season?

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Speaker 5: I mean they were a train wreck last year. One

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Speaker 5: hundred and six losses I believe was the final tally,

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Speaker 5: But I mean early on.

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Speaker 4: You're starting to see a little life out there in Case.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I'm a believer in Case. I think that, you know,

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Speaker 11: early on in the season. I was a big believer

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Speaker 11: in my hometown Tigers here, but I actually think that

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Speaker 11: the Royals have a bit more going for them right

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Speaker 11: now than Detroit does. Bobby wit Junior is one of

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Speaker 11: the best five players in the game, dynamic player, and

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Speaker 11: he's probably the single best player right now in terms

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Speaker 11: of what he can do in every facet of the

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Speaker 11: game in the entire division. Jose Ramirez has been the

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Speaker 11: best player for a long time. I think that Bobby

1945
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Speaker 11: might have just a little bit more explosiveness right now,

1946
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 11: maybe a bit more dynamic, But Hose I still love

1947
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 11: watching him play. And Nayler has been great too in

1948
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 11: Cleveland certainly as well. And then the Royals lineup, I

1949
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 11: think that are their rotation with Lugo and Waka Reagan's.

1950
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:50,799
Speaker 11: They've got a really good group of pitching. Brady Singers

1951
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 11: there has pitched well, so I'm on board. I think

1952
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 11: that the Royals right now are building a team that

1953
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:59,879
Speaker 11: is certainly fit in my opinion, to be a postseason

1954
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty four.

1955
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 2: Well again, when we're talking baseball, there's only like one

1956
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:06,600
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty nine games left, so I mean, you

1957
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 2: know we're coming down the stretch. Not in baseball, but

1958
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 2: we are now into playoff time in the National Hockey League.

1959
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 2: Trying to translate regular season versus postseason success in every

1960
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:24,959
Speaker 2: sport can be dicey, but no sport more than the NHL,

1961
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 2: no question about that. I mean, a year ago, obviously,

1962
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 2: the Brewers had a historic regular season. They went belly

1963
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 2: up in the first round of the playoffs. So trying

1964
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 2: to predict, you know, which team ultimately emerges into the

1965
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Final. Which teams will be there is impossible, unless,

1966
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 2: of course, you're talking to the one and only John

1967
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 2: Paul Morosi.

1968
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:47,720
Speaker 3: So we have that opportunity.

1969
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 2: Now that the playoffs are underway, give us your predictions

1970
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 2: on which two teams will match up in the Stanley

1971
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:55,759
Speaker 2: Cup Final.

1972
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 11: I'm going for a rematch of the ninety four Cup

1973
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 11: five Rangers versus Canucks, but this time Vancouver wins it

1974
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 11: and Canada gets his first Stanley Cup since nineteen ninety three. Wow,

1975
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 11: it's going to be a big Cup win for Canada.

1976
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 11: But remember a lot of Americans on that team as well,

1977
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 11: Quinn Hughes, They're wearing the Sea JT. Miller, So you've

1978
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 11: got a lot of American talent on the Canucks to season.

1979
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 11: I believe they find a way to hoist Lord Stanley's Cup.

1980
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 2: Canadians don't win over the Kings in ninety three without

1981
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 2: the curve stick controversy arnament.

1982
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 11: Sly Mary Melrose. I think Vinnie don Fouss was on

1983
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 11: that team there for the Halves back in the day.

1984
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 11: He has some good memories there. Back in nineteen ninety three,

1985
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 11: that was the last time a Canadian team won the

1986
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 11: Cup that spent thirty.

1987
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,600
Speaker 2: One long years, and I kept saying, how do you

1988
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 2: get Patrick Wall out of Patrick Roy?

1989
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 4: I don't get it.

1990
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 3: I still never figured that one out.

1991
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 4: How about you?

1992
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 11: Now he's now coaching the Islanders, and so if we

1993
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 11: see the Island going a nice little playoff run, you

1994
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 11: got a chance to ask him him on the show.

1995
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I was known as the Gretzky hater back in

1996
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 3: those days.

1997
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 4: Shocking, I mean shock.

1998
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 2: I was like, he comes to the Kings and I'm like,

1999
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 2: where's the Stanley Cups? Man, Messy's winning cups? You're not,

2000
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 2: what's the deal? And then and then I then I

2001
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 2: had a meeting with Gretzky and I found out, God,

2002
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:20,799
Speaker 2: he's in the nicest guy.

2003
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 4: In the planet.

2004
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 2: I regret every negative thing I said it to him face.

2005
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:28,639
Speaker 2: I said anything I did you ever heard me say?

2006
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't care, Steve, I really don't. I

2007
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 2: have enjoyed your show over the years. I'm like, oh God,

2008
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 2: I willn't any worse about being bad to you. Nothing

2009
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 2: bad to say about this man. He is simply the

2010
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 2: best of the best. JP Everything's underway, man. We got

2011
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 2: the NBA Playoffs, got the Stanley Cup playoffs. We've got

2012
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball it's all good, and the draft as

2013
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 2: well coming up, so uh a.

2014
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 3: Lot to cover down the road.

2015
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 4: JP.

2016
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 3: We always appreciate the time.

2017
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 11: Love it, my friends. I look forward to this conversation

2018
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 11: every single week and can't wait for next Sunday as well.

2019
01:44:58,200 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 11: All the best. Have a great week, guys.

2020
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 2: There is alright, John Paul Morosi joining us. There are

2021
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio MLB Insider great stuff.

2022
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 3: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

2023
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 2: He has been the busiest man here today trying to

2024
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,440
Speaker 2: keep track of this lighting up scoreboard.

2025
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 9: This is a lot going on. But as a sports fan,

2026
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 9: really does it get any better than this? I mean,

2027
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 9: this is exactly what you want on a Sunday. Is

2028
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 9: just a day full of games. Perfect if you're on

2029
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 9: the couch, just chillin' enjoying the day off work. And

2030
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 9: we got a lot of exciting action in the NBA playoffs.

2031
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 9: The only thing I want to ask is Kawhi? Who

2032
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 9: the Clippers? Are they better without Kawhi today? Apparently they

2033
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 9: are because the Clippers are leading the Dallas Mavericks fifty

2034
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 9: to twenty eight, and James Harden a big reason why

2035
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 9: he's got twenty points off of four four to three

2036
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 9: point shooting six of eight overall from the field, the

2037
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 9: Clippers as a team shooting seven to twelve from beyond

2038
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 9: the three point line. In in addition to Harden, if

2039
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 9: he's to Zobots getting it done, George.

2040
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,840
Speaker 3: Trying to turn it on down the left outlet exactly

2041
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:00,040
Speaker 3: what be signed seeing double.

2042
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 2: Turn goes up in playing one over Poper Herman big

2043
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 2: throw with a double by Sipflix.

2044
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,800
Speaker 9: That was the Clippers radio network there with the call

2045
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 9: Zubots as five to six shooting, he's got himself ten

2046
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 9: points along with six rebounds and an assist. As everything

2047
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 9: going right for the Clippers and the Mavericks struggling mightily

2048
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 9: nine to thirty three shooting at two fifteen from beyond

2049
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 9: the three point line. Luka Doncic the only Maverick who

2050
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 9: is in double figures, as he's got eleven points on

2051
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 9: four to twelve shooting, eight rebounds to assist, but getting

2052
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 9: absolutely no help from anyone else.

2053
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 8: PJ.

2054
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 9: Washington does have six points. Kyrie as six points, but

2055
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 9: really that's really all the help he's gotten so far

2056
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 9: from his teammates. Heaton Celtics, it's Boston winning this one

2057
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 9: going away one fourteen to ninety four, and it was

2058
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 9: kind of expected. A fourteen and a half point favorite

2059
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 9: going into the game were the Boston Celtics since Jimmy

2060
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 9: Butler expecting to be out several weeks with his MCL injury,

2061
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 9: so it's gonna be a to task for the Heat

2062
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 9: to make this a series. And with the way Boston played,

2063
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 9: Jason Tatum a triple double twenty three points, ten rebounds,

2064
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 9: ten assists. We also saw Derek Whitewood twenty points on

2065
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 9: four of eight three point shooting six to ten from

2066
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 9: the field, Jalen Brown seventeen points, Sam Howser at twelve

2067
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 9: points off the bench. Out Orford even got himself involved

2068
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 9: and got ten points on four of eight shooting. So

2069
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 9: everything going right for the Boston Celtics in that game.

2070
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 9: If Bam out of Bayue doing all he could, it

2071
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 9: just wasn't enough. He had twenty four points and six

2072
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 9: rebounds For the game. Coming up later, it'll be the

2073
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 9: Bucks and Pacers tip off of that game set for

2074
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 9: seven o'clock over in Milwaukee, and the nightcap will feature

2075
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 9: of the Pelicans and Thunder over in Oklahoma City. Tip

2076
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 9: off set for nine thirty Eastern time. In the NHL

2077
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 9: Stanley Cup Playoffs, Game one in the Eastern Conference first Round,

2078
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 9: Capitals and Rangers, and it's the Rangers winning this one

2079
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:54,719
Speaker 9: handily three nothing. There in the middle of the second

2080
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 9: period out at Madison Square Garden in a battle of

2081
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 9: the Sunshine State, Panthers edge the light three to two,

2082
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 9: although it was a three to one late and the

2083
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 9: Lightning able to get a Lake goal to make it

2084
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 9: closer three to two. The Panthers win to take a

2085
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 9: one to nothing series lead. Later tonight, seven o'clock Jets

2086
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 9: and Avalanche in Winnipeg, Game one of that series. Canucks

2087
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 9: and Predators, Game one in a Vancouver pup drops at

2088
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 9: ten o'clock Eastern time. Major League Baseball, we've had several

2089
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 9: games already go final Guardians over the Athletics six to two,

2090
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 9: Reds shut out the Angels three nothing, Yankees over the

2091
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,839
Speaker 9: Rays five to four, and the National shutout the Astros

2092
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 9: six nothing. Phillies over the White Sox eight to two,

2093
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 9: Red Sox top the Pirates six to one.

2094
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:36,639
Speaker 8: We have a few games in action.

2095
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 9: Mets and Dodgers scoreless out in Los Angeles end of

2096
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 9: the second inning. Padres and Blue Jays tied at one

2097
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 9: in the second. Mariners Rocky scoreless in the fifth inning,

2098
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 9: first game of a doubleheader there In Denver, Giants and

2099
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:53,520
Speaker 9: Diamondbacks also score the second inning. In San Francisco, Brewers

2100
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 9: and Cardinals. They're in the eighth inning in Milwaukee, clinging

2101
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 9: to a two to nothing lead, but the Cardinals do

2102
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 9: have runners on first and second will with wand out

2103
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,599
Speaker 9: trying to get back in this game. Tigers and Twins,

2104
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 9: it's Detroit leading at six nothing. They're going to the

2105
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 9: bottom of the ninth inning. So of this game all

2106
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,160
Speaker 9: but over. Oils and Royals. It's four nothing in favor

2107
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 9: of Baltimore as the Orioles looking to when fourteen of

2108
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 9: their first twenty one games. A much hype team, and

2109
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 9: they certainly seem to be living up to it as

2110
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 9: they have their final at back.

2111
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 8: Royals have one more chance coming up in the bottom

2112
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 8: of the ninth inning.

2113
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, Kevin. Somebody just texted me. They

2114
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 2: said they just tune in. Could you repeat all those

2115
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 2: scores for them?

2116
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 4: Man?

2117
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a quick twenty minutes, man, Okay.

2118
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 2: Unbelievably busy day in the world as sports, Kevin the

2119
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,600
Speaker 2: great job as always, Hey, I want to ask you

2120
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:50,800
Speaker 2: something rich. The Golden State Warriors got blown out in

2121
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 2: the play in Tournament by the Sacramento Kings, and unfortunately

2122
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 2: for Klay Thompson, it could not have been a worse day.

2123
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 2: Zero for ten, every shot, zero points in the game.

2124
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 2: His contract is up, he's a free agent. Made forty

2125
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 2: three million dollars this year. This is the same Clay Thompson,

2126
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 2: of course, one of the greatest shooters in the history

2127
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 2: of the NBA, part of four championship team, set out

2128
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 2: two full years and then came back a couple of

2129
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:21,640
Speaker 2: years ago to help the Warriors win that fourth championship.

2130
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 3: He is a true Warriors legend. Obviously, with Draymond and

2131
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 3: Steph and now the question is what do you do

2132
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 3: if you're the Warriors? Do you blow this whole thing up?

2133
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Steph is there, Draymond's got some years left.

2134
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 2: But the idea of re signing Clay Thompson out of

2135
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 2: loyalty or into just an acknowledgment that you're one of

2136
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:49,600
Speaker 2: the greatest players in franchise history. You're going to go

2137
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 2: in the Hall of fame as a Warrior, you deserve

2138
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,799
Speaker 2: to play out your career as a Golden State Warrior,

2139
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 2: or do you decide, Hey, Clay, if you want to

2140
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:03,760
Speaker 2: continue playing, it's gonna have to be with someone else.

2141
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 2: We've got to recognize the fact that we are a

2142
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 2: long way away from where we were just a couple

2143
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 2: of years ago.

2144
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 3: How do you handle that? If you're the Warriors organization, Boy.

2145
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 5: I don't envy them, because I like, you watched Warriors

2146
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 5: games this season and saw a different looking Klay Thompson.

2147
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 5: And this is somebody who's obviously close to you as

2148
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 5: you worked many years with the color analysts for the

2149
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:30,719
Speaker 5: Los Angeles Lakers.

2150
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 4: Michael his father. You knew Clay since he was a kid. Yep.

2151
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 5: But like all athletes, they say you die to deaths

2152
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 5: as an athlete, and they're one hundred percent correct, because

2153
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:46,759
Speaker 5: at some point you realize you don't have it anymore,

2154
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 5: or you're too riddled with injuries, or you realize nobody

2155
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 5: wants you and it's time to lay down the sword.

2156
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 5: And sometimes you don't have to make that choice. You

2157
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 5: want to make that choice, and it's first proposed to

2158
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 5: you with a with a request to take less, you know.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's probably gonna be the first of

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Speaker 5: the conversations and probably the many conversations the Warriors have

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01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 5: with Clay where they're going to say, hey, man, like

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01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:22,719
Speaker 5: we love you, you know that, but if you're gonna

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Speaker 5: play here.

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna be on the same amount of money.

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Speaker 5: So you could go off elsewhere and you could chase

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01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 5: a bigger contract, and we promise you whenever the day

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01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 5: comes that you want to hang it up for good,

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01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 5: you can sign a one day contract and you can

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Speaker 5: retire a Golden State Warrior. But you and and this

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01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 5: isn't sane like you're you're out, You're gone. We're just saying,

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01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 5: if you want to stay, you got to help us

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Speaker 5: out here. And so I think that's probably going to

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01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:54,760
Speaker 5: be the decision that the Warriors have to make, is

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Speaker 5: how much less do we want to offer Clay, you know,

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01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 5: how much loyalty to use your or fidelity do you

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Speaker 5: want to show Clay and everything he's done for the

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Speaker 5: organization while making a decision that can help improve this

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01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 5: team and impact the future favorably from a salary camp standpoint.

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Speaker 5: So this is a tough spot, but it's a spot

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01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 5: that happens in every player's career, and I think that's

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01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 5: exactly going to be the first salvo.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be the Golden State Warriors offering less.

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01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 2: I believe, First of all, he can still play. I

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01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 2: mean this year he shot thirty nine percent three, so

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01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 2: he's still an elite three point shooter. He average eighteen

2186
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 2: points a game. I led the league in free throw

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01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 2: percentage ninety three percent. Doesn't shoot a lot of free throws,

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01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 2: but led the league in free throw percentage. He's he's

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01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 2: a guy off the bench. I mean, if I were

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01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 2: the Lakers right now, I would be tripping over myself

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01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:49,719
Speaker 2: to add him to our bench.

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01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 3: Well, and I mean, he's one of those guys that his.

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01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 4: Dad played for the Lakers, win championships with the Lakers.

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01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 2: But I mean, just that aside, the fact is he's

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01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 2: still a guy at this point of his I mean,

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01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 2: look at Russell Westbrook right So Russell Westbrook is only

2197
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 2: making like four million dollars right now, extending his NBA

2198
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 2: career as a guy coming off the bench for the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: If Klay Thompson wants that role on a franchise like

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01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 2: the Lakers, and obviously his father played for the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: His father a broadcast with the Lakers when he and

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01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:24,839
Speaker 2: his family first moved from the Portland area to Los Angeles.

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01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 3: I'm sure he was a Laker fan, so I think

2204
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 3: it would be a nice fit for him.

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01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 2: On the other hand, he does feel loyalty, and you know,

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01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 2: his teammates expressed their appreciation of Clay and made it

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01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 2: clear their sentiment to the organization. He cannot play for

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01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 2: somebody else, right, he can't. If he wants to continue

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Speaker 2: to play, It's going to have to be in a

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Speaker 2: Warriors uniform. So big decision down the road for Klay

2211
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 2: Thompson in his future. All right, Coming up on the

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01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 2: other side, ultimately, what do you think we're going to

2213
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 2: see on Thursday with the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: We'll tell you. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and Rich Armberger here Fox Sports Sunday Live

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Speaker 2: from the tire rack dot Com studios. Want to thank

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01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 2: the crew today, Kevin Wired exhausted after every single update,

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01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 2: a lot of scores today, Great job, keV. Chris on

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01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 2: the board, warning again, do not move up in this

2220
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 2: draft to draft JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: Do not do it.

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Speaker 3: If he falls in your lap, and you want to

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01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 3: roll the dice on the guy, he falls in your lap.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like this idea we're going to trade

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01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 1: up for him feels like a genuine rate waster resources.

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01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 2: And then of course bo who got excited because the

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01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 2: Mets threw a strike to show hey o Tani and

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01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 2: he just hit an absolute bomb into the right field

2229
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:44,760
Speaker 2: pavilion at Dodgers Stadium. Dodgers trying to make something out

2230
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 2: of this disastrous home stand by it two and six?

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01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 2: Are you worried about this Dodgers team bow or what's

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01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 2: what's the day?

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01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 4: April?

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01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 10: It's April?

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01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, fair enough.

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01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 4: I don't know what Billion three's on that.

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01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 10: I mean, like the last four or five years, the

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01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 10: team that's ended up winning the World Series has not

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01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 10: been good the first half of the season, so right, like,

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Speaker 10: the Nationals were the worst team in baseball I think

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01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 10: before the trade deadline in twenty nineteen, and the Braves

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01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 10: were not good until they made the three trades at

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01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 10: the deadline to win the World.

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01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 2: So maybe actually what the Doctors need to do is

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01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 2: win less than one hundred games, because every time they

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01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 2: win a hundred games, he goes a big nowhere in

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01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:27,160
Speaker 2: the post or something to ye. Yeah, so they could

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01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 2: struggle and you know, have a ninety wins. You may

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01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 2: only need ninety wins to win the National League West.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're all seem to be about the same

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01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 2: right now, except for the Rockies, who are absolutely terrible.

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01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 10: All right, so good pilots though.

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01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:47,760
Speaker 2: All right, well, Richie, Thursday is the NFL Draft. It's

2254
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 2: always amazing to me the growth of this league, going

2255
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 2: from my stone age days of the Raiders. I can

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01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 2: still remember. My job is sort of like the media

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Speaker 2: relations director. Like I'd be in the draft room. You know,

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01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 2: Davis would be there and Tom Floor's Ron Wolf who

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01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 2: was our all these Hall of famers. Right then they

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01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 2: make a pick and then I would come out and

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01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 2: write it down on a board like handwrite it like

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01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:12,720
Speaker 2: the names on a board.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know the media people following the draft,

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01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean ESPN was doing their stuff at that time,

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01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 2: but not a lot of people were watching.

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01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 3: Now it's it's a whole show.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's everything.

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Speaker 5: Well, because what sports are and I mean I don't

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01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 5: want to break it down to you know, the elemental

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Speaker 5: level of why we're interested in sports.

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Speaker 4: That's boring.

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Speaker 5: But what you are is your your your hawkin' faith,

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01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 5: your hawking belief. There's every single spring when your team,

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01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 5: you know, as bad as they were a season ago.

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01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 5: If you're a Cleveland Browns fan, typically obviously they made

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01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:52,600
Speaker 5: a playoff run with Joe Flacco because he's elite. You know,

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01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 5: if you're a Houston Texans fan from a year ago

2279
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 5: and you saw them take you know, CJ.

2280
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 4: Stroud and Will Anderson Junior, and you're thinking, as you know,

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Speaker 4: that's what we needed.

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Speaker 5: And now we're gonna go out there and we're gonna

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01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 5: contend for a playoff season. And sure enough c J.

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01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:14,080
Speaker 5: Stroud and his compatriot on the defensive side, they did

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01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 5: just that. So that's what this time of year is

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01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 5: all about. It's about faith and belief and excitement. And

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01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:26,160
Speaker 5: the NFL, like no other sports league, has created a

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Speaker 5: monopoly on their draft day like nothing we've ever seen before.

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01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 5: It's it's it's excitement. People can't contain themselves. The numbers

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01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 5: go up every year.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna give one advice to one team

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01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 2: and that's the Chargers. Okay, okay, it's personal with me

2293
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 2: with the Chargers as you know. But here's here's my

2294
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 2: advice to them. With the fifth pick in the draft.

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01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 2: You say, well, I mean Marvin Harrison Junior neighbors one

2296
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 2: of these great receivers.

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01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 3: We're gonna put him in with Justin Herbert.

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01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 2: And not look back, and I'm like, you got too

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01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 2: many holes. The fact is, Keenan Allen had a Pro

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01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 2: Bowl season last year and you were five and twelve.

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01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 3: It's not just about wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Basically, taking a wide receiver at five, even as great

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01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 2: as Marvin Harrison Junior might be, is not going to

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01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 2: fix the problem.

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01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 3: This team needs to trade down.

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01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 2: If there's if there is any team desperate to move

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01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:19,640
Speaker 2: up to get a quarterback, call the Chargers at five

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01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 2: or tease their new general manager make the trade. They

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01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 2: got holes everywhere, they need more players. So that's that's

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01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 2: one team to me that would make sense to trade

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01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 2: down in this draft. Add some picks, because this is

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01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 2: not gonna be a quick fix for the Chargers. They

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01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:41,440
Speaker 2: were every bit of five and twelve team. I love

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01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:44,440
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. I like the new direction of the organization,

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01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 2: but it's gonna take time. They need bodies trade down.

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Speaker 4: If I'm gonna offer them advice.

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Speaker 5: I would say, do the entire draft, general managers, player personnel.

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01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:57,880
Speaker 5: I mean even you know, the select coaches, assistant coaches

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01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 5: who are going to be involved on the day, the owner, everyone.

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Speaker 11: Do it.

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Speaker 4: From Jim Harbough's r V, yeah, I mean look good

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Speaker 4: or bad. At least you got a beautiful view of

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02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:11,000
Speaker 4: the ocean on a very busy day of sports.

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Speaker 3: So much more to come. Keep it right here. This

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Speaker 3: is Fox Sports Radio.