WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: The Bark’ Has Bite 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:05.560 The following. 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:07.560 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.320 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:19.160 Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.919 Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:31.080 Six second Plea's got TINSI texdown and now your hosts 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:40.479 Isaiah standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.040 It's a wonderful when the edition of Talking Cowboys, presented 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.200 by Black Rifle Coffee Company live from the Star in Frisco, 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.919 Texas and the SWBC studios welcome in everybody. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.520 We've got Patrick no, Cy Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.360 in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans as we break down 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:06.080 the Cowboys defensive matchup versus the filthy Delphia Eagles. I 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:07.560 can't stand the Eagles, guys. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:07.920 The effects. 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:12.000 I mean, if there was a franchise in all of 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:16.240 professional sports that I would despise, it would probably be 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:20.160 number one the Houston Astros and number two the Philadelphia Eagles. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.720 And it's the only reason that I disliked the Astros 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:27.520 more is because they're filthy, filthy cheaters. But then I've 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.440 got the Philadelphia Eagles who aren't much better. 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.440 So yeah, I actually kind of go back and forth 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.959 on this topic in my head, and I have. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:36.920 Over the past several years. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:38.040 I'm Astros too. 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.800 Oh yeah, of course. But as a Braves fan, we 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.080 handled that You're welcome world. 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.839 The Rangers got them last year too. They did shout 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:47.559 out to the ranks. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.680 But as far as like the my most hated Cowboys rival, 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:53.760 I kind of go back. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.480 And forth between the Commanders and the Eagles. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.880 Now now hear me out there, because I'm of the 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.560 generation where it was much more so that a true 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.640 rivalry between Washington and Dallas. And then if you know 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.360 the history between those two organizations, you know that Dallas 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.359 doesn't the Cowboys don't exist in this iteration if they 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.560 didn't have to extort the vote out of the Washington 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.400 football team, Commanders whatever you want to call them, back 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.440 in you know, the late fifties, nineteen sixty using their 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.360 own college football song against them, whatever, whatever. So the 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.040 legacy is deeper as far as the hate goes between 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:32.720 Washington and Dallas. However, as far as recency goes, yes, 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.760 you are hard pressed as a Cowboys fan to hate 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.680 another franchise more than you hate the Philadelphia Is. 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.560 It the best rivalry in all of football? 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:44.480 And like pro football, in. 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.960 Pro football, it's only where both teams are good, I think. 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:49.960 I mean, I'm trying to think of any of the 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.440 ones that would equal that. I'd say Packers Niners. Packers 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:58.519 Bears Bears Niners is good because it's just California. Packers 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.080 Vikings is good of those northern matchups because they've been 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:06.919 around for one hundred years Taylors Brown's but like down south, 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.080 it doesn't get much better. And by down South, I 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.040 mean Gallas specifically because also keeping them on. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.720 Cowboys didn't always weren't always in the NFC East in 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:17.240 the first place, they're in the West. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:18.799 Yeah, so there's that. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.200 The Raiders was really Yeah, it's because they used they 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.280 had to cancelor preseason games because there were so many fights. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.000 N Oh wow, I like that. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.040 I just think as far as now and nationally it 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.960 to me, it seems Cowboys Eagles is always the marquee 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.280 matchup and it's always you know, highlighted. You know, you 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.080 see those two teams collide, and it's always h it's 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.120 always money, you know what I mean, Like, there's there's 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.000 always some stakes to it, not not only the fact 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.600 that you're in the same division, but I just think 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.240 that it's crazy to me that it's still so relevant. 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:54.040 And the top two quarterbacks have faced each other twice ever, 0:03:55.280 --> 0:04:00.160 Dak Prescott have only played each other twice and thelast 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:04.520 year so one was twenty twenty one, and then the 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:05.680 other was twenty twenty three. 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.320 As far as oh was it so one last year 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:08.920 and one. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.320 In twenty twenty three. Yeah, twenty twenty one Week three, 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.120 Cowboys defeated the Eagles forty one twenty one, and then 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:19.400 their second matchup was last year November Week nine. Funny enough, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.680 Eagles defeated the Cowboys twenty eight, twenty three. 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.279 You know, I'll say this though, as this is what 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.240 I mean when I say I circle back to the Commanders. 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.120 So the Commanders are red hot again. They might be 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.320 good going forward, right, likely good going forward. And then 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.120 you add the added spice of who they led, Dan 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.039 Quinn and some of the players that are helping them 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.599 to excel our former Cowboys like Durrence Armstrong and Tyler 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.320 Biadish and Dante Fowler. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:44.919 So all things. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:49.640 Considered, by the end of this year beginning the next year, 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:51.880 I might be right back on the Commanders being my 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.760 number one most hated, but it's always gonna be one 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.960 a one be like ask me any given week and 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.320 it might be the Eagles or the Commanders, but it's 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.680 never the Giants because I at least respect the Giants. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.000 Those other two organizations I can't. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.120 I just think in terms of like growing up, I 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.760 never really saw a heated rivalry between the Cowboys and 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.680 the Washington the Washington. 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.680 Team, the Washington It was just I was there with you, 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.080 I mean, same generation. I mean the best that Washington 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.800 was was whenever it was the r G three years, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.760 the first two years and then kind of pitter patterned 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.479 until Kirk Cousins kind of gave them something to cheer about. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.640 They were never really a threat. But when we were 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.560 growing up, it was the Giants and the Cowboys were 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:39.080 always good at the same time. The Cowboys. Yeah, like 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.640 that was kind of the rivalry at that point, but 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.320 it was always for me, it was always still the Eagles, 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.599 Donovan McNabb and what they were doing early. It was 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.120 always that that Green See. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.919 That's really when the Eagles hate ratcheted up for me, 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.600 was that Andy Reid era. For sure, that really became 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.480 the the whole t O thing. And he's former he's 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.599 Eagle now's yeah, that kind of shifted it. But like 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.240 I said, if the Commanders keep being good and they 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:11.040 have uh former guys from Dallas over there helping them, 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.760 that's just it adds more to the drama because it's like, 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:14.800 how Darius. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.960 I've never hated a team more than whenever DeMarco Murray 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.239 went to go play for Thes, I've never hated it's. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:19.640 How that work. 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:25.240 I know it didn't work, but that was the the 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.760 most he hated Hed I've ever been over any transaction 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.159 and audacity. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.560 I feel like and I feel like that that was 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:39.640 a similar sentiment whenever Terrell Owens came to Dallas. Thing 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.400 on the opposite side for Philadelphia because they and he 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.240 came over at the end of the day. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.080 Even though the Cowboys are playing bad football right now, 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.080 the little brother is still the Philadelphia Eagles. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:49.880 Still little Brother. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.720 We don't have a Philadelphia week here in Dallas, they 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:53.680 have a Dallas week. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.599 So the little Brother syndrome is rampant. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.800 And when Sirianni was wearing a beat Dallas shirt during our. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.640 I think he still probably hasn't. I'm sure there's a 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:04.640 little works out in it. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.000 The punchable face in the NFL absolutely healthy. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.200 Commanders are still suffering from some little brother syndrome, even 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.760 even though they're off on a tear right now and 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.560 the Cowboys are spirally. I saw a video last week 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.640 after they win with the fans were like, we want 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:19.280 Dallas what. 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.440 I'm sorry, what you're begging for? Three? 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:24.000 For sure? 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.320 You probably do, yeah, if I'm being completely right, So 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:27.800 that's what I mean, where it's just like, come on, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:29.520 just relax. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.280 Well, I love this. I love this. It's the first 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.760 real rivalry of the year, and of course it hasn't 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.200 gone well for one team and it's gone pretty well 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:37.920 for the other team. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.160 Going into the Giants at all in this conversation, I 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:41.000 did just. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.080 In the aspect of it. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:46.560 I don't, yeah, I don't hate the Giants. I respect them, 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.840 but it's just it's a healthy dislike, right. It's one 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:50.880 of those rivalries where it's like you can be around 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.520 Giants fans and they'll talk their trash. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:54.880 You will talk your trash. 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.720 But at least four rings, five rings, Okay, fine, those 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:58.680 other two organizations. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.200 It's like for all the trash talking. It's taking you 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:01.600 so long. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:05.320 Nah, giants suck too. All right, give me some give 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.360 me some news and notes. 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.560 Hi, all right, we're gonna just kind of spin off 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.560 of yesterday. So obviously we had the breaking news yesterday 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.400 and we talked ad nauseam about it. Check out yesterday's 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.640 episode title being is Mingo a Bengo? We all feel 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.040 very strongly in a couple of directions, Oh that's a bingo, 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.200 but it's not so Cowboys, Akuai Jonathan Mingo and a 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:31.400 seventh round pick for next year in exchange for a 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:32.960 twenty twenty five fourth round pick. 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.880 Check Out our take on yesterday's episode real quickly. On 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.679 top of that, are you going to add to it 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:39.240 from Mingo? 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:40.400 Well, not form Mingo? 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.360 Okay, I want to hit Mingo real quick. I thought 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.200 we did a really good job of breaking it down 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:49.400 because my my initial thought after the trade is was, 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.000 I mean, we were thinking in real time whenever it 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.400 came to the show yesterday, because it break you five 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.760 minutes before we popped on air. Now, yeah, maybe not 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.280 even five minutes. I I don't change the way that 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:05.400 I view the trade. I don't like the compensation. It's 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.760 also not a twenty twenty four move. This was not 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.040 a this year move. This was a twenty five to 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.640 twenty sixth move to try and build depth a Monks 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.760 your wide receiver room. Is that enough to give up 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.920 a fourth round pick and return a seventh Absolutely not. 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:20.480 And I went back and watched the film. I made 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.840 one statement yesterday. I was like, yeah, help solidify your 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.920 wide receiver room. Thinking positively about Jonathan Mingo. He's got 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.400 a lot of work to do. And I said it yesterday. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.280 I'll say it again. He was in a bad, bad capital, 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:37.160 bad offense in Carolina. But there are some things that 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.360 were bad, bad about Jonathan Mingo. He's got to be 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.200 better in Dallas. He's got to take a step up. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.040 Not solidified with his hands. I mean, the target share 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.160 is significant. He had a bevy of opportunities and he 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.600 didn't take advantage of it. I thought Bobby Belt hit 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.400 a stat earlier he did that was really good on Twitter. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.000 We're out of all of the target shares in the 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.480 NFL since he was drafted in twenty twenty three, he 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.439 has the lowest catch percentage out of all of them. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.280 With guys with ninety targets or more so, gotta be 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.319 better in terms of the opportunities that are given. Maybe 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.160 a little bit more separation would help him out. He's 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.200 not building separation. His route running was not very good. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.439 He was kind of relying on his size to make 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.240 the grab every once in a while and kind of 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.000 a body catcher at times too. We love those guys here. Yeah, 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:28.840 there's a couple of those. Yeah. So doesn't mean that. Yeah, 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:30.880 it doesn't mean that it's the be all end all. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.200 He's a second round pick for a reason. I had 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:34.800 a fourth round grade on him, so I thought he 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.520 maybe went a little bit high in the draft in 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.600 twenty twenty three. But going back and watching the film, 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.480 there were some good things I liked. I like the 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.360 way he is physical. Uh he will go up and 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.920 get a jump ball. And he does bring an element 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.160 of size that this offense doesn't have whenever it comes 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.280 to the wide receiver position, because if you think about it, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.560 all your guys are kind of small, maybe Jalen Brooks. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.640 So that perfect segue because something that we didn't touch 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.480 on yesterday, because again we were talking about it and 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.640 processing it in real time. A few minutes after it happened, 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.480 I sat with it yesterday and it hit me at 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.480 my desk and I asked this question Nick Eaven As 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.280 soon as the light bulb came on. I was like, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.040 so for all of the talkers were saying, And of 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.360 course I am absolutely not a fan of the fourth 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.040 round compensation. I'm also not a fan of the timing 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.240 of it. We talked about that yesterday. Go watch yesterday's 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:23.760 episode if you want to know what I mean by 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.760 the timing of it and why it should have been 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.360 done sooner. If this is what you were going to do, 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:32.040 then it would have been less expensive. What about Flinoy? 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.840 What does this say that what the Cowboys saying about 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:36.920 Ryan Flinoy. 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.120 It's indicative of the coaching staff and how they feel 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:40.520 about him. 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.959 Right, So cow poses a wonderful question, a wonderful statement, 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.800 I should say, because he says, well, the Cowboys don't 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.120 have the size that Jonathan Mingo brings. Well, actually they do, 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.080 and his name is Ryan Flinoy, and they have a 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.079 guy who can high point, who can attack at the 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.320 point of attack and be physical in how he runs 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.400 and sheds, etcetera, etcetera. But we've not seen him get 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:03.120 those opportunity of these even with the absence of Brandon Cooks, 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.160 we just haven't seen Floyd get the opportunities. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.280 So it just it makes me. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:10.760 Wonder because somebody that is as freakishly athletic as Ryan 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:16.720 Flanoy is to have not gotten the opportunities in games 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.600 to know what that data set looks like it but 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.680 then to give up a fourth round pick for a 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.920 guy whose data set does not look great, like Kyle 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.080 is saying, like Bobby so eloquently stated on Twitter, who 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.240 had Who's raw and has so much you know, more 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.959 growth to do. My question is, if you put Flanoy 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.800 next to Mingo right now, if you put them on 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.840 the field right now, who's better? It might be Flanoy, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.000 just because you don't know exactly My point, so which 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.080 deepens my take on you give up a fourth round 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.640 pick for So I was out on the fourth round 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.600 pick before it hit me yesterday when I was like, 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.480 wait a minute, Ryan Flinoy. Now it's like, oh oh, 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:58.840 now I'm super out. 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.480 Based based on the film that I've seen from the 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:05.079 two and Flinoy specifically in the preseason, because he hasn't 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.080 had it enough run and enough sample size, so I 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.240 get it in the regular season. I think Mingo is 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:15.640 a more skilled wide receiver then then Flinoy. But to 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:17.439 your point, is it enough to give up a fourth 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:18.360 round correct? 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.520 No, I'm in the middle of a rookie season of 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.720 a guy, so the skill set might be better as 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.240 far as a little bit, a little bit more refined. Sure, 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.520 athleticism goes to Flinoy. 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:31.640 So it's a wash. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.000 But what if did with his first reception? That's fair 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:39.160 and when and wepulated how McCarthy and the coaches I 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:43.920 feel about players at fumble. I mean, and. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.840 I don't disagree with with that, because guys need to 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.960 learn not to give the ball away right on a 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.439 team that's spirally, you gotta protect. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:57.160 The ball on a team desperate, and you cannot that. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.520 That And and I guess this goes back to what 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.240 I was saying yesterday as far as the timing is concerned, 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.640 and I would if you wanted to make this Jonathan 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.280 Mango trade, I say you make it three weeks ago, 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.000 because there's certain things you knew at that time. Cooks 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:13.760 on iar. You knew what teams you were going to 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:15.720 go up against. You knew your offense was starting out 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.040 in the red zone, and you needed to spark. That 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.480 would have been also the time and or the time 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.800 for you to just unleash Ryan Flinoy and see what 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.920 you have there before you pulled the trigger on the 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.160 trade deadline for Mingo. So one of those two things 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:31.800 I would have liked to see happened, but neither of 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.800 those things happen. So now you give up a fourth 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.360 round of for Mango, and you bring them into a 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.320 situation wherein you don't know that Flinoy is or is 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.280 not better, or can or cannot. 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.960 Be what you want Mingo to be, and you have Flinoy. 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.000 You have more control over Flinoy as far as contractually 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:47.680 because he's still a rookie, so you still have him 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.160 for another three and a half years, right. 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.480 So it's so many question marks there. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.120 But you know, but I think to what Kyle's point though, 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.000 it's like they probably just are not liking what they're seeing. 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.080 It's gotta be something if we're not seeing. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.360 Him on the field, Obviously there's something there about Flinoy 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:05.880 that they're like. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.120 Especially especially if it's an element and a role that 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.120 they felt that needed to be filled to the point 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.400 where they are going to swap a fourth and a 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.840 seventh round pick. If they think it's that important for 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.680 that role, that physicality to be in your wide receiver room, 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:28.200 and you haven't shown Ryan Flanoy snaps or given him opportunities, 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.800 then yeah, I think that's there's something else there that 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:31.520 we just don't know. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.160 Possibly, do you do you feel like Flinoy's skill set 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.320 could serve the Cowboys offense will in the red zone? 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.120 That's about That's about all I have confidence. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:40.360 Okay, Right, so it's been. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.400 Clear as far as the preseason goes, even which. 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.000 Goes to the second part of this question. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.440 If you're bringing in Mingo to kind of be what 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.320 Flinoy may not be for you in the red zone yet, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.120 would you give up a fourth round pick full a 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:54.440 red zone threat? 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.240 No, but Mingo. Mingo hasn't necessarily been a red zone threat. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.080 Everything he's done ing between twenty. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.280 Respectfully in Carolina, he's not been of much of any 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.360 He hasn't much of anything, and he's going to have 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.280 to become that fairly quickly for the Cowboys. But I mean, 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.240 realistically speaking, like we talked about, all things considered, including 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.840 the fact that Deck is likely headed the IR which means, 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.000 you know, he may not be back until December ninth 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.800 against the Bengals. Then he's going to have to work 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:22.680 off a little bit of rust, and then you know, 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.520 Mingo is going to take two or three games to 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.680 kind of learn the language of the playbook and his 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.400 assignments and his keys and things like that. This is 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:36.920 one twenty five move, but it's it's kind of concerning 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.560 that you were buyers and not sellers. But that's two 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.160 episodes ago. Go check out. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.360 I don't even know if I would consider this buying, 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.720 though I know you you did. Technically you bought with 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.880 a fourth round pick. I get it. But this isn't like, oh, 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.600 let's go make an impact move because we're buyers at 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.200 the deadline and we're gonna win in twenty twenty four. Now, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:58.479 this is this is something. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.960 Building you know, put in that conversation rather realistically speaking, 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.760 you're right, it's not an impact move for twenty twenty five. 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.240 Realistically speaking, no, but technically because of the compensation you 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.720 gave up for it kind of puts it in that 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.119 conversation kind of, and that's what makes it uncomfortable. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.440 Yeah, you spent a fourth round pick on a possible 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.200 wide receiver. Two but more likely a wide receiver three 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.080 or four. Right, that's kind of what you did. Yeah, 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.280 so lots to figure out there. For the Cowboys, we 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.320 spent a third round pick in twenty twenty two on 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.359 a on a wide receiver three as well as what 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:28.200 is Jalen Tolbert? 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.680 Also, what does it say about that the progress of 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:31.479 Jalen Brooks. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.320 I mean, you know what I mean, because. 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.200 Seventh round pick two, we're banking on set like No 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.359 Brooks Trian Flinois. These guys are seventh round picks. You 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.640 got one back. If you want to spend your seventh 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.320 round pick that you got back from Carolina on a 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.160 receiver two, you can throw him into the next two. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.880 I mean, come on now, Like it's not like they've. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.880 Been posing the questions. 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:51.919 These are not necessarily this is just me posing the 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.119 questions because I mean, realistically speaking, you've seen more from 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.359 Jalen Brooks in the NFL than you've seen from Jonathan 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.800 Mingle in the NFL. Is So if we're just talking 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.240 film data sets and things like that, I mean you have. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.639 So that's what I mean when I say it's a 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:08.600 lot to figure out, But I mean as it stands 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.600 McCarthy doesn't have a contract beyond twenty twenty four, so 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:14.600 there's not a lot a lot of time right now 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.600 for McCarthy to get this figured out, even with Jonathan Mingo, 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.600 so of course without Dak Prescott for a minimum before games, 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:23.040 assuming they put him on IR. 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:27.720 Jalen Brooks only has fifteen career receptions or thirteen career receptions. 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.480 Jonathan Mingoes had a whole lot more than that. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:31.280 Fair enough? 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.240 Yeah, I mean curious, since you have it in front 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.760 of you, what's the what's the yards per catch on 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:36.320 both of them? 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.359 So for Jalen Tober, twenty six targets, thirteen receptions, so 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:44.760 fifty percent catch raders, he has one hundred and sixty 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:50.200 seven yards, no touchdowns. Whereas for Jonathan Mingo, stand by, 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.680 standing by? Where's Mingo? 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:53.080 Oh? 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.120