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Speaker 5: We've got Patrick no, Cy Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys defensive matchup versus the filthy Delphia Eagles. I

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Speaker 5: can't stand the Eagles, guys.

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Speaker 1: The effects.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if there was a franchise in all of

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Speaker 5: professional sports that I would despise, it would probably be

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Speaker 5: number one the Houston Astros and number two the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 5: And it's the only reason that I disliked the Astros

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Speaker 5: more is because they're filthy, filthy cheaters. But then I've

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Speaker 5: got the Philadelphia Eagles who aren't much better.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I actually kind of go back and forth

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Speaker 6: on this topic in my head, and I have.

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Speaker 1: Over the past several years.

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Speaker 5: I'm Astros too.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, of course. But as a Braves fan, we

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Speaker 1: The Rangers got them last year too. They did shout

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Speaker 6: But as far as like the my most hated Cowboys rival,

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Speaker 1: And forth between the Commanders and the Eagles.

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Speaker 6: Now now hear me out there, because I'm of the

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Speaker 6: generation where it was much more so that a true

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Speaker 6: didn't have to extort the vote out of the Washington

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Speaker 6: in you know, the late fifties, nineteen sixty using their

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Speaker 6: you are hard pressed as a Cowboys fan to hate

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Speaker 7: It the best rivalry in all of football?

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Speaker 5: And like pro football, in.

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Speaker 1: Pro football, it's only where both teams are good, I think.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm trying to think of any of the

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Speaker 5: ones that would equal that. I'd say Packers Niners. Packers

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Speaker 5: around for one hundred years Taylors Brown's but like down south,

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Speaker 6: Cowboys didn't always weren't always in the NFC East in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's that.

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Speaker 8: The Raiders was really Yeah, it's because they used they

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Speaker 7: I just think as far as now and nationally it

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Speaker 7: always some stakes to it, not not only the fact

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Speaker 7: And the top two quarterbacks have faced each other twice ever,

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Speaker 5: As far as oh was it so one last year

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Speaker 7: In twenty twenty three. Yeah, twenty twenty one Week three,

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Speaker 6: You know, I'll say this though, as this is what

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Speaker 6: Considered, by the end of this year beginning the next year,

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Speaker 1: Those other two organizations I can't.

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Speaker 7: I just think in terms of like growing up, I

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Speaker 5: Team, the Washington It was just I was there with you,

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Speaker 5: They were never really a threat. But when we were

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Speaker 5: it was always for me, it was always still the Eagles,

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Speaker 6: That's really when the Eagles hate ratcheted up for me,

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Speaker 6: I said, if the Commanders keep being good and they

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Speaker 6: that's just it adds more to the drama because it's like,

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Speaker 7: I've never hated a team more than whenever DeMarco Murray

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Speaker 1: How that work.

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Speaker 7: I know it didn't work, but that was the the

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Speaker 5: I feel like and I feel like that that was

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Speaker 6: Even though the Cowboys are playing bad football right now,

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Speaker 1: Still little Brother.

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Speaker 6: We don't have a Philadelphia week here in Dallas, they

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Speaker 1: So the little Brother syndrome is rampant.

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Speaker 7: And when Sirianni was wearing a beat Dallas shirt during our.

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Speaker 6: Commanders are still suffering from some little brother syndrome, even

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys are spirally. I saw a video last week

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Speaker 6: after they win with the fans were like, we want

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what you're begging for? Three?

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Speaker 5: For sure?

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Speaker 6: You probably do, yeah, if I'm being completely right, So

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Speaker 6: that's what I mean, where it's just like, come on,

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Speaker 5: Well, I love this. I love this. It's the first

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Speaker 7: Going into the Giants at all in this conversation, I

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Speaker 1: In the aspect of it.

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Speaker 6: I don't, yeah, I don't hate the Giants. I respect them,

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Speaker 6: But at least four rings, five rings, Okay, fine, those

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Speaker 1: It's like for all the trash talking. It's taking you

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Speaker 5: Nah, giants suck too. All right, give me some give

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Speaker 6: Hi, all right, we're gonna just kind of spin off

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Speaker 6: of yesterday. So obviously we had the breaking news yesterday

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Speaker 6: and we talked ad nauseam about it. Check out yesterday's

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Speaker 6: episode title being is Mingo a Bengo? We all feel

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Speaker 6: very strongly in a couple of directions, Oh that's a bingo,

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Speaker 6: but it's not so Cowboys, Akuai Jonathan Mingo and a

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Speaker 5: Check Out our take on yesterday's episode real quickly. On

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Speaker 5: top of that, are you going to add to it

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Speaker 5: a fourth round pick and return a seventh Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: Not solidified with his hands. I mean, the target share

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Speaker 5: a stat earlier he did that was really good on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: We're out of all of the target shares in the

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Speaker 6: What does this say that what the Cowboys saying about

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Speaker 7: It's indicative of the coaching staff and how they feel

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Speaker 6: Right, So cow poses a wonderful question, a wonderful statement,

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Speaker 6: and his name is Ryan Flinoy, and they have a

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Speaker 6: Wonder because somebody that is as freakishly athletic as Ryan

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Speaker 5: Based based on the film that I've seen from the

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Speaker 1: So it's a wash.

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Speaker 7: But what if did with his first reception? That's fair

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Speaker 6: I don't disagree with with that, because guys need to

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Speaker 7: The ball on a team desperate, and you cannot that.

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Speaker 6: because there's certain things you knew at that time. Cooks

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Speaker 1: Be what you want Mingo to be, and you have Flinoy.

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Speaker 6: You have more control over Flinoy as far as contractually

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Speaker 1: So it's so many question marks there.

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Speaker 7: But you know, but I think to what Kyle's point though,

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Speaker 5: It's gotta be something if we're not seeing.

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Speaker 5: Especially especially if it's an element and a role that

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Speaker 5: seventh round pick. If they think it's that important for

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Speaker 5: then yeah, I think that's there's something else there that

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Speaker 6: Possibly, do you do you feel like Flinoy's skill set

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Speaker 5: That's about That's about all I have confidence.

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Speaker 7: Clear as far as the preseason goes, even which.

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Speaker 5: No, but Mingo. Mingo hasn't necessarily been a red zone threat.

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Speaker 6: Respectfully in Carolina, he's not been of much of any

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Speaker 6: He hasn't much of anything, and he's going to have

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Speaker 6: Mingo is going to take two or three games to

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Speaker 5: I don't even know if I would consider this buying,

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Speaker 5: a fourth round pick. I get it. But this isn't like, oh,

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Speaker 5: this is this is something.

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Speaker 6: Building you know, put in that conversation rather realistically speaking,

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Speaker 6: Realistically speaking, no, but technically because of the compensation you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you spent a fourth round pick on a possible

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Speaker 5: so lots to figure out there. For the Cowboys, we

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Speaker 5: is Jalen Tolbert?

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Speaker 6: Also, what does it say about that the progress of

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean, because.

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Speaker 5: Seventh round pick two, we're banking on set like No

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Speaker 5: got one back. If you want to spend your seventh

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Speaker 5: I mean, come on now, Like it's not like they've.

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Speaker 6: These are not necessarily this is just me posing the

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Speaker 6: Mingle in the NFL. Is So if we're just talking

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Speaker 6: So that's what I mean when I say it's a

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Speaker 5: Jalen Brooks only has fifteen career receptions or thirteen career receptions.

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Mingoes had a whole lot more than that.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean curious, since you have it in front

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Speaker 5: So for Jalen Tober, twenty six targets, thirteen receptions, so

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Man, I messed up. I'm a slow typer.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're a handpicker.

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Speaker 5: I am a handpecker. Oh no, actually I'm really not,

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Speaker 5: just in this very moment, I am.

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Speaker 1: Are you pulling a job?

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Speaker 3: Comparatively?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, comparatively one hundred and eleven targets for Mingo,

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Speaker 5: one eleven for fifty five receptions, five hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, outside of Tobert which his data set is growing.

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Speaker 6: And Rusto, I don't know, man, there's just so much

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Speaker 1: It's shaky, all right.

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Speaker 6: So circling back to news and notes. So that's the

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Speaker 6: in exactly two games and then he went on IR

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Speaker 6: and then he was released from IR.

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Speaker 5: So does that count. It does, so that will go through.

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Speaker 5: They will swap swap.

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Speaker 1: The deal is done.

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Speaker 6: The Giants are thanking the Cowboys for playing him for

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Speaker 6: exactly two games to give up that six round pick.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. Yeah, so Jordan Phillips, Jordan Phillips.

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Speaker 5: And picking twelve will be picking two forty one.

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Speaker 6: Well, right now, it all matters, right now, I guess.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, you can make something popular the six round pick.

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Speaker 5: Especially. Talk to me in in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 5: when I get my ready.

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Speaker 6: So Andrew Booth and Jordan Phillips. They leave Dallas with

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Speaker 6: a combined zero sex, zero pass breakups, zero interceptions, zero

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Speaker 6: force fumbles, zero fumble recoveries, and only seven combined tackles,

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Speaker 6: and six of those were to Andrew Booth, only one

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Speaker 6: to Jordan Phillips. So thou, yeah, those not great, Bob.

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Speaker 6: Those two experiments. Those who trade experiments did not work

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Speaker 6: out well.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, it's funny. Oh, it's not funny at all. Actually,

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Speaker 7: it's really terrible.

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Speaker 1: It just seems that every year to keep from crying.

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Speaker 7: I know, I know, yeah, that's happening a lot today.

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Speaker 7: It certainly feels like every move the Cowboys have made

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Speaker 7: just has not worked so far. If you if you

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Speaker 7: look back to the off season, I mean you think

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Speaker 7: about bringing in like all right, you lose Dan Quinn,

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Speaker 7: let's bring Mike Zimmer. Doesn't work.

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Speaker 6: It's the quickness in which you Lozzie Smith.

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Speaker 7: Let's rely on Smith, you know, you know, yeah, Mozzie Smith.

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Speaker 7: I mean just just go down the line and everything

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Speaker 7: that we're sort of banking on, like all right, let's

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Speaker 7: take a chance, and let's do it this way every

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Speaker 7: just at every turn. All right, well, let's bring Eric

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Speaker 7: Kendricks into you know, uh, solidify the defense, right, and

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Speaker 7: even that has been not great. I mean, he's he's

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Speaker 7: a good addition to the to the defense, but I

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Speaker 7: just mean it doesn't change.

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Speaker 5: Your defensive tackles that are hurting. I was going to

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Speaker 5: say and and yeah, yeah on the linebackers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I mean, all things considered, Ek has been

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Speaker 6: still the best acquisition thus far.

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Speaker 1: Uh, and it shouts out to.

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Speaker 6: He's on IR right now, but prior to going on

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Speaker 6: revelation in short order. So you know, a couple of

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Speaker 6: them have worked out, but you're right, for the most part, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's not worked out yet.

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Speaker 1: So I mean the fact that you were drawing out

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Speaker 6: Describing that tells me exactly how much of a non

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Speaker 6: successful stit it has been with the acquisitions.

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Speaker 5: It is just not great, not great, not great. All right,

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Speaker 5: let's take our first break when we come back. It's

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Speaker 5: time to preview the Dallas defense going up against this

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia offense. It's not going to get much easier for

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys front seven going up against an offensive line

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Speaker 5: that's finding its rhythm. And then a guy that you

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles and the way that the Eagles have been

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Speaker 5: playing lately, it is a scary sight. And I mean,

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Speaker 5: you got to give credit to the way that they've

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Speaker 5: revamped some things. They lost a lot in the off season, absolutely,

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Speaker 5: but they've found some guys. They went out and they've

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Speaker 5: acquired Saquon Barkley. That looks to be the move of

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Speaker 5: the off season, not only within the NFC East, but

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Speaker 5: possibly within the NFC or NFL in general, because he's

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Speaker 5: just been a dude so far this year. When you

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Speaker 5: look at this offense compared to what it had been previously, Patrick,

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Speaker 5: where does it stand out most to you in the

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Speaker 5: way that they've taken a step forward.

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Speaker 6: It's their halfback play is to play running back. And

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Speaker 6: because they were always a team I don't can say always,

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Speaker 6: but there were a team in the Jalen Hurts era

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Speaker 6: wherein Jalen Hurts had to be the large majority of

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Speaker 6: their rushing attack, right, and he had to kind of

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Speaker 6: offset and create the balance so that he can then

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Speaker 6: drop back and throw to Devonte Smith and AJ Brown

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Speaker 6: once they acquired AJ Brown and Dallas Goddard in the

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Speaker 6: post zac Urge era. But with the addition of Sakuon

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Speaker 6: Barkley and the level of play that he is delivering

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Speaker 6: for them right now, it's keeping Jalen Hurts fresh for

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Speaker 6: the long run because he's not having to take off

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Speaker 6: and run as much. But it also makes the things

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Speaker 6: like read options that much more effective because you have

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Speaker 6: no choice but to respect what Sakuon Barkley is doing.

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Speaker 6: He's averaging just under one hundred and sixteen rushing yards

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Speaker 6: per game. I didn't say one sixteen from scrimmage average.

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Speaker 6: I said just rushing. But he's also doing it as

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Speaker 6: a receiver out of the backfield. Oh and by the way,

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Speaker 6: he's turning his back on guys and hurtling them without

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Speaker 6: even looking at them. Right that play was unbelievable. He's yeah,

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Speaker 6: right now, player the play of the season right now.

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Speaker 6: So when you look at that offense, you know A. J.

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Speaker 6: Brown is still doing AJ Brown things. Davonte Smith He's

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Speaker 6: still very much a threat Dallas Goddard when he's healthy,

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Speaker 6: he can still help stretch down the seams.

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Speaker 1: But sa Kwan Barkley, his presence, his.

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Speaker 6: Productivity, it just it blows up defenses because you you're

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Speaker 6: having such a hard time stopping him that you're starting

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Speaker 6: to throw an extra one or two guys at him.

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Speaker 6: And all that does is open up things for Aj

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Speaker 6: and Davante and Jalen to throw down the field. For

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Speaker 6: guess who's the offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore, Right, so, and

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Speaker 6: guess and Kellen Moore, although he's the offensive coordinator, he

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Speaker 6: knows all the tricks of McCarthy's play scheme. He knows

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Speaker 6: the entire playbook because to a degree, the Cowboys are

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Speaker 6: still running a large chunk of Kellen Moore's playbook. So

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Speaker 6: you better believe Kellen Moore is giving the want to

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Speaker 6: keep so and now it's not even that, it's it's

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Speaker 6: Cooper Rush on.

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Speaker 1: Top of that.

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Speaker 7: Exactly.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's but kind of flipping back to the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: defense versus the Eagles offense, man Saquon Barkley, I'm not

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Speaker 6: going to say the Eagles are they go as Saquon

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Speaker 6: goes because they were effective before they got Saquon, but

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Speaker 6: they weren't.

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Speaker 7: This No, it's it's scary. You'd think after Jason Kelsey

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Speaker 7: retires from the NFL, to retires from the Eagles, you'd

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Speaker 7: think they'd take a step back. And they have only

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Speaker 7: run forward as far as the They've had injury and

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Speaker 7: they've had tire. But if you look at the offensive

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Speaker 7: line and you look at specifically the right side of

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Speaker 7: the ball, you have Cam Jurgens at the center and

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Speaker 7: he's graded at a sixty five Profole baff Focus run grade,

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Speaker 7: but McKai, Beckton Lane Johnson both over eighty grade when

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Speaker 7: it comes to running the Dame ball.

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Speaker 5: That's pretty good, Bob, that's pretty darn good.

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Speaker 7: You added the fact that Saquon Barkley, like we said before,

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Speaker 7: is turning back the wheels of time and looks like

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Speaker 7: rookie Saquon Barkley again, And not only with the speed

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Speaker 7: and the agility and just the fierceness in which he runs,

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Speaker 7: the physicality of the way he runs, but he's actually

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Speaker 7: running behind a good line this time. He's not running

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Speaker 7: behind the New York Giants of the last ten years. Right,

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Speaker 7: And going back to the last ten games against the

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Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys, we've been able to bottle up Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 1: True story.

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Speaker 7: He's only had about fifty eight point one rushing yards

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Speaker 7: per game in those ten games. That's an average, right,

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Speaker 7: an average about four point eight yards per carry, which

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Speaker 7: is not terrible, not great, but touchdowns, guys, you know what,

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Speaker 7: he's touchdowns. He's had how many talk to us three

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Speaker 7: touchdowns Saquon Barkley has had against the Dallas Cowboys rushing

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Speaker 7: and no receiving at all.

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Speaker 5: And then, of course this is during his time with

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Speaker 5: a bad Giants offensive line and still able to do

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Speaker 5: some things. Now he's got some pieces around him. He's

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Speaker 5: got some guys up front that are blocking for him.

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Speaker 5: The number that sticks out for me from Saquon, he's

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Speaker 5: always had the production if healthy, it's the six yards

658
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Speaker 5: per carry on average, nasty work, six yards per carry

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Speaker 5: on average. One game that's over one hundred and fifty

660
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Speaker 5: seven carries, he's averaging five point nine yards per carry.

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Speaker 5: Freaking Ginger's he's been unbelievable. So and we talked about

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Speaker 5: this last week with Bijon Robinson and the dynamic ability

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Speaker 5: as a running back and in a complete back. You

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Speaker 5: get it again in Saquon Parkley. You get another opportunity

665
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Speaker 5: with the weapons outside. I called Atlanta Detroit Junior, and

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Speaker 5: I think that kind of showed. And of course, Drake

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Speaker 5: London leaving the game early didn't necessarily open things up

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Speaker 5: for the Atlanta Falcons the way I think they anticipated.

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Speaker 5: But Philadelphia has their own element to it. Maybe not

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Speaker 5: to the same extent as those two teams do, but

671
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Speaker 5: they win in the trenches a little bit better than

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Speaker 5: I think the or the Falcons did this past week.

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Speaker 5: I think their offensive line, despite the injuries, still finds

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Speaker 5: a way to get it done. Jalen Hurts is still

675
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Speaker 5: a dude. He has eight rush rushing touchdowns this year.

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Speaker 5: So even with kind of what Patrick you were outlining earlier,

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Speaker 5: a team that doesn't have to have Jalen Hurts run

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Speaker 5: the football, he could still do that. And he can

679
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Speaker 5: do it in the red zone. Especially the tush push

680
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Speaker 5: is still a thing. It's still alive and well even

681
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Speaker 5: though Jason Kelsey's not there anymore. But yeah, so my

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Speaker 5: question becomes to you, is is there any level of

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Speaker 5: confidence the fact that you were able to kind of

684
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Speaker 5: have some success last week? You just didn't get run

685
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Speaker 5: all over. You allowed some rushing yards, but you didn't

686
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Speaker 5: get run all over against Atlanta. Can you replicate that

687
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Speaker 5: and have similar success from a front seven standpoint against Philadelphia?

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Speaker 7: I think as far as Colways go with this matchup,

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Speaker 7: the Eagles have let bad teams come back on them.

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Speaker 7: You know, like that, the Jaguars were very close to

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Speaker 7: winning that game last week if not for a last

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Speaker 7: minute interception by Nikobe Dean, and the Saints, who for

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Speaker 7: all intents and purposes are a really bad football team,

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Speaker 7: not when they play us. Of course, the very next

695
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Speaker 7: week they let Man. It's felt like the Eagles were

696
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Speaker 7: giving them every opportunity to win that game. At least

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Speaker 7: in my perspective, you do have a chance against this

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Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagles team. However, it doesn't seem likely based on

699
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Speaker 7: our performance, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 6: When you look at the performances of the Cowboys, the

701
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Speaker 6: injuries and so forth and so on, this game is

702
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Speaker 6: so stacked against them as far as the variables are concerned.

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Speaker 1: The only true hope.

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Speaker 6: Is exactly what you pointed out, Ky, in that you

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Speaker 6: hope the Eagles play down. If they play down to

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Speaker 6: the competition, which they've shown that they can do from

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Speaker 6: time and played down that will likely keep the game

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Speaker 6: closer than what makes them comfortable.

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Speaker 1: And then it's just a bounce of a ball.

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Speaker 6: It's somebody make a big play here, it's a bad

711
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Speaker 6: call goes against them, and maybe that determines the game

712
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Speaker 6: and you can steal the upset. But because so much

713
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Speaker 6: is going well for them and they're mostly healthy, and

714
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 6: so much is going poorly for you, and you're mostly unhealthy,

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Speaker 6: and you're still trying to figure out because you make

716
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 6: a great point, say Kwan, outside of the touchdowns yardage

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00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 6: per game, he has not done well versus the Cowboys.

718
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 6: Win loss record versus the Cowboys is abysmo. But most

719
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Speaker 6: of that is with Dan Quinn as the defensive coordinator,

720
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Speaker 6: not Mike Zimmer. Still trying to figure out where to

721
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 6: have guys in position, things like that. This defense is struggling, right,

722
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Speaker 6: so I think your best chance of stealing this win.

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Speaker 6: Keeping in mind you also haven't won at home, so

724
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Speaker 6: there's another thing working against you is the Falcons. The

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Speaker 6: Eagles have to come in and look down at you

726
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Speaker 6: and play down and think that, oh, well, you're not

727
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Speaker 6: on our levels, so we can kind of take our

728
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Speaker 6: foot off the gas. That's your only real hope is

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Speaker 6: that by the time they realize that they've been playing down,

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Speaker 6: is that it's one or two plays too late.

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Speaker 5: I chuckle, because we started this whole show, despite what

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Speaker 5: direction each one of these franchises is headed, and where

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Speaker 5: these franchises are headed. We started the show by saying

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Speaker 5: how much hatred we have for the Philadelphia Eagles. The

735
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Speaker 5: Eagles are saying the exact same thing about Dallas. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they cannot stand Dallas. So if you anticipate seeing the

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Speaker 5: only yeah, if you anticipate that being the only hope

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Speaker 5: is that the Eagles are gonna play down and overlook

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Speaker 5: the Allas Cowboys in a year where the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 5: are wrong.

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Speaker 6: That's not the it's not the only hope, but it's

742
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Speaker 6: realistically speaking, it's in the equation.

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Speaker 1: It's in the conversation.

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Speaker 6: Because let's say the additional hope is that you get

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Speaker 6: Michael Parsons back and you get durn Bland on the

746
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Speaker 6: field for the first time this season.

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Speaker 5: What's the possibility that those two things happen.

748
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Speaker 6: Right now better than it has been? Okay, I will

749
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Speaker 6: say that we'll see what today's practice. Today being Wednesday,

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Speaker 6: we'll see what today's practice looks like. But Jerry Jones

751
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Speaker 6: and Mike McCarthy both intimated that Michael Parsons and Duran

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Speaker 6: Bland will have at least a shot at practicing today.

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Speaker 6: It feels more so Micah than Deron, but Deron does

754
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Speaker 6: have that chance. If Micah and and I'm not gonna

755
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Speaker 6: say and or, but if Michael and Deron can get

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Speaker 6: on this field for the Cowboys, then your odds increase

757
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Speaker 6: question is, and I.

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Speaker 1: Don't everyone's gonna say, well, how much you odds increase?

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Speaker 6: No, see, not sure because when Michael was on the field,

760
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 6: you still struggle with the pass rush, you still struggle

761
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Speaker 6: to stop the run. Dron Bland, we haven't seen him

762
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Speaker 6: on the field for twenty twenty four yet, and we

763
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Speaker 6: haven't seen him on the field with Treyvon Diggs at

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Speaker 6: all yet. But that actually makes things more intriguing for

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Speaker 6: me because this will be the first time that we've seen,

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Speaker 6: assuming he finally gets on the field, first time we've

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Speaker 6: seen Jordan Lewis, Trayvon Diggs, and Deron Bland on the

768
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Speaker 6: field at the same time as starters. So that could

769
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Speaker 6: help you against the passing attack that is more or

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Speaker 6: less three headed in Jalen Hurts and those guys.

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Speaker 1: So there's hope.

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Speaker 6: In that aspect, and that's rightful hope, that's credible, justifiable hope.

773
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Speaker 6: But Micah is there going to be rushed or is

774
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Speaker 6: he just going to come out and be the animal

775
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 6: that he is? And what level can he take this

776
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 6: pass rush to? Can he get back to it? So,

777
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Speaker 6: I mean, all hope is not lost. All hope is

778
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Speaker 6: not contingent upon the Eagles playing down because I get

779
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 6: what you're saying, division rival. They want to smash and

780
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Speaker 6: punch the Cowboys in the face over and over and

781
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Speaker 6: over again. They want to drop a fifty burger and

782
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 6: walk off laughing. True, but we've seen at several points

783
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Speaker 6: during certain games where the Eagles will maybe they get

784
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Speaker 6: out to a two touchdown lead, and they will take

785
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Speaker 6: their foot off the guests and then they'll wake back

786
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Speaker 6: up and they say, oh, okay, well let's play serious again.

787
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Speaker 6: Hopefully the Eagles just get over confident. That's not gonna

788
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Speaker 6: happen against the Cowboys. There's no way.

789
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Speaker 7: They're dialed in for the Cowboys.

790
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, I just to see that bring us.

791
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Speaker 7: Down to earth a little bit. I mean as much

792
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Speaker 7: as a rush.

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Speaker 5: Legacy game sounds good to me now that that's the whole.

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Speaker 6: Actually, let's see if we can make something happen.

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Mingo is gonna go off for one, ten and two.

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Speaker 6: Tuddies, we're talking tomorrow, so you're going to have somebody's

797
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Speaker 6: gonna have to have a legacy game.

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Speaker 5: No, you don't, No, I don't, all right. It sucks

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Speaker 5: to lose. It does suck to lose. I hate losing.

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Speaker 5: That's all all right. When we come back, we talked

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Speaker 5: about the ground game. That passing attack is still significant

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Speaker 5: as well. Uh, you mentioned some of the guys in

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Speaker 5: All right, h. I mentioned the passing game. I mentioned

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Speaker 5: And I thought he had a nice game against Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: I thought he played better if he did he played

871
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 5: better against Atlanta. Uh. Malie Hooker hasn't been perfect either, though,

872
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 5: so in a team in a game like this where

873
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 5: it is so balanced, where you do have Saquon Barkley

874
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 5: on one side, and you have guys like Devonte Smith

875
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 5: and Dallas Goddard and AJ Brown. I know Aj Brown

876
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 5: is hurt, but you've got the weapons that that Philadelphia

877
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 5: has at their disposal. How much does it rely on

878
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 5: the safeties to be balanced and to be assignment heavy

879
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 5: and to be where they need to be disciplined? Right?

880
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 5: That was the word I was kind of looking for.

881
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 7: That's the that's the word you need for these safeties, man.

882
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 7: And like you said, Donald had a really good game

883
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 7: in Atlanta, and I think a big part of that

884
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 7: was he was disciplined. He was saying he was minding

885
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 7: his his assignment and you could see that it bounced

886
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 7: off the film there. So in my opinion, the safeties

887
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 7: have to be disciplined, be able to trust in the system,

888
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 7: and you know, like it or not. Man, you got

889
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 7: to be able to pay attention to the details. And

890
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 7: something that Jordan Luis has brought up before.

891
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, details, details, details now.

892
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 5: He was the fifth highest graded defender last week.

893
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, he made the PFF really made game breakers.

894
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 7: On that list. Who was the top five?

895
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 5: OS was number one. Osa had a really good game,

896
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 5: uh Carl Lawson. Of course, he had two sacks, he's

897
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 5: closing in on thirty in his career. Jordan Joja Yeah,

898
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis is still a dude. He had a ninety

899
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 5: coverage grade and Jordan's.

900
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Just walked through some pain to make that happen.

901
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 5: This one's a little bit weird because he only had

902
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 5: five snaps, but it's Mayor's Lea fal So I would

903
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 5: really kind of say Donna was probably the fourth best defender,

904
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 5: and I would agree with those three off of the film.

905
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 5: That was OS's best game of his of his year

906
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 5: so far. I mean, that was the best game of

907
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 5: the season that OS has had. Carl Lawson, of course

908
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 5: had the two sacks, so you got to give him

909
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 5: some bedit credit in a minute. But yeah, yeah, best

910
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 5: best one for sure of the of in a Cowboys

911
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: uniform for sure. And then Jordan's still doing Jordan's things.

912
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, and consistent.

913
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 6: It's good that Jordan's still doing Jordan things. Had a

914
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 6: bit of an injury scare there in Atlanta, but right back.

915
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 5: Into you expect I was thinking about that in the

916
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 5: last segment when we were talking about Trayvon and getting.

917
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: These guys back. I expect Jordan to play.

918
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 5: I expect him to play, but I expect him to

919
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 5: be on the injury report too. He was a little bang, that's.

920
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 6: Fair, so they might give him. I mean he's going

921
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 6: to get some treatment this week. Sure, and because he's

922
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 6: going to get some treatment, he.

923
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 5: May be limited or he maybe even a d n

924
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 5: P is a veteran d MP.

925
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 6: But as far as the safeties, I mean, you're right.

926
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 6: The Cowboys need and this is this is true of

927
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 6: all three levels. Cowboys need better play from everybody, but

928
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 6: this question is focused on the safeties. So yes, you

929
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 6: need better play from the safeties. Now I'm gonna go

930
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 6: I'm gonna put on my Isaiah stanback head on this

931
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 6: one and.

932
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: Say thing and say that Zeus in La Yeah, say that.

933
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 6: One of the things that is costing the safeties is

934
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 6: their placement in this scheme. Right, I am seeing Donovan

935
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 6: Wilson in coverage far too often. Right, go back and

936
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 6: look at Donald and the d Q scheme, and he

937
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 6: was much more of a downhill in the box, you know,

938
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 6: mixed up and blitz package.

939
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: Just claims playing to his strengths.

940
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 6: Donovan Wilson this season has not been asked to play

941
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 6: to his strengths, and it has cost him mightily even

942
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 6: against Atlanta, and he rated. He grated very highly on

943
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 6: a lot of different metrics, and he was one of

944
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 6: the handful of guys that I'm listed as game breakers,

945
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 6: and shout out to him for being Johnny on the

946
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 6: spot getting that that fumble recovery as well. But so

947
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 6: his tackling was better than I've seen in recent games.

948
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 5: Got some numbers for you on that point. By the way.

949
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 6: His coverage, though, he still struggled in coverage against the Falcons.

950
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 6: So it kind of just all ties into what I'm saying,

951
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 6: speaking to the Donald point, Donovan Wilson is a much

952
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 6: better player than you're seen on film this season. So

953
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 6: that led me to go back and look at film

954
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 6: over the past several games and try to figure out what.

955
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: Is it mostly Donald.

956
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 6: Now, there's some accountability to donal as true, like mistackle,

957
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 6: lack of execution, whatever the case may be. But Donovan

958
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 6: Wilson has never been a center fielder. He's never had

959
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 6: that free safety in him. But he's being asked to

960
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 6: do some of that work in twenty twenty four.

961
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: Under some of it, some of it.

962
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 5: Here's the numbers. I got to the numbers two hundred

963
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 5: and forty three snaps this year have been at free

964
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 5: safety for Donovan will not you know how many he's

965
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 5: been in the box. Would you think it's more or

966
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 5: less in the box?

967
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: Less than the bucks, less than the.

968
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: Box one sixty seven that he's had nearly one hundred

969
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 5: more snaps as a free safety and as a box.

970
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: This looks like a Cowboys cap.

971
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 6: This is actually my Isaiah standback cap right some I

972
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 6: got Isaiah standback on.

973
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 5: Quickly, just for comparison references. You want to hear twenty

974
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 5: twenty three, come on with it. Twenty twenty three he

975
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 5: had two hundred and ninety six snaps as a free safety.

976
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 5: He's almost reached that already. This year he had three

977
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty one snaps in the box.

978
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 6: Come on with it again, I state and GiB So

979
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 6: if you're wondering why Donovan Wilson was excelling under Dan

980
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 6: Quinn but he's struggling under Mike Zimmer, I've said all

981
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 6: season I'm more so looking at any better player execution,

982
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 6: better player effort, things like this, But on this particular note, this.

983
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: Is defensive coordinator stuff.

984
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 6: Okay, this scheme is not serving Donovan Wilson well at all,

985
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 6: and because he's being asked to play out of position.

986
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 5: How many times have we said that about a key

987
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 5: player on this defense.

988
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's happening. But there's a ripple effect as well.

989
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, because every time he goes to free safety, it

990
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 6: impacts Malie Hooker.

991
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: Right.

992
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 6: So now you're it's this thing leads to the next thing,

993
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 6: leads to the next thing. So I one hundred percent

994
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 6: agree when it comes to because I can hear Isaiah

995
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 6: in my hair right now, He's like, yes, that's what

996
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

997
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: Right.

998
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 6: So, I've been on the players need to play better,

999
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 6: and that's still true, but on this particular note, if

1000
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 6: you want better safety play, you have to put these

1001
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 6: two safeties in better position to capitalize upon what they

1002
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 6: do well. Donovan Wilson is your heat seeking missile, sea ball,

1003
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 6: get ball, sea ball carrier, hit ball carrier, play downhill,

1004
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 6: play forward.

1005
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: You're asking him to play backward. That's not his bag.

1006
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 7: That's why he's stressed known that since his first snap.

1007
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: That's that's why he's sent.

1008
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 5: Him towards the ball, since he was playing at Kyle

1009
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 5: Field for the Texas A and m Aggie's you kind

1010
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 5: of knew running forward.

1011
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 6: Safety forward, and unfortunately it's it's caused a situation where

1012
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 6: rightfully so it's like, okay, well, if if you're Mike

1013
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 6: Zimmer and you want another cover safety back there with

1014
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 6: Malie Hooker, well you have a guy like one Yea

1015
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 6: Thomas and you have Marquise Bell. But those two have

1016
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 6: been mostly relegated the special teams, and now one Yea

1017
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 6: Thomas he might miss this game within the concussion protocol.

1018
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 6: We'll see what he looks like on the injury report.

1019
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 6: Something's got to change schematically. If you want the safeties

1020
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 6: to perform.

1021
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 5: Better, got to something's got to change. Came out of

1022
00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 5: if you want, if you.

1023
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: Want any want to everyone to play better.

1024
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got you gotta figure it out this week

1025
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 5: against Philadelphia. Tomorrow, we will preview the Cowboys offense versus

1026
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 5: that Philadelphia defense. What does Cooper Rush have up his

1027
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 5: sleeve to try and help the Cowboys find some rhythm offensively.

1028
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 5: We've got Isaiah back in the building tomorrow. He'll bring

1029
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 5: some QB vision as well. Taking a look at that

1030
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 5: Philadelphia defense. I think there's some ways that Dallas could

1031
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 5: still move the ball this week. I think there's there's opportunities.

1032
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 5: Just based off of the preliminary film, you can absolutely

1033
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 5: have some success. Could be a fun matchup in that regard.

1034
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 5: Maybe not as much as the one we talked about

1035
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 5: in that regard today, all right, but that's gonna do

1036
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 5: it for us here on Talking Truth, Talking Cowboys. Excuse

1037
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 5: me for just being in the back for Josh Roderiguez Patrick. No,

1038
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 5: see walk around, Kylie Omens. We'll see you tomorrow. On

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Speaker 5: Talking Cowboys.

1040
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1041
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