1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody. Friday edition of The Clay 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show starts right now. I've got 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: a lot to get through today. Obviously, the jobs numbers. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Biden talking about those, saying that you know, they're in 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: a strong position to deal with the weakness of the 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: economy under Biden. That's basically the shortened version. We'll discuss 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: some of where that he is for all of you. Also, 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: a lot pardon me my voice, a little raspie I was. 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: I started to lose it last night on Gutfeld Show, 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: and it's still still a little bit. So I got 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Clay here though, I'm good to go. We're gonna get 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: through it to be just fine. But the individuals who 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: were kicked out of the Tennessee State House a lot 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: of pushback now from the Democrat media over this, saying 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. Barack Obama himself weighs in on 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: Tennessee State House members being voted out of the Tennessee 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: State House for their part in a rowdy and stupid 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: anti gun protest. So we will address that for sure. 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: I'll also since we're talking about Nashville there or Tennessee. Rather. 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: The Nashville Manifesto, as I believe, is still not out yet. 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Clay am I, I know they've talked a little more 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: about what's in it, but they still haven't released it, 24 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: still have not shared a motive. I think we're gonna 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: return to that here in a moment, because there is 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: now a full on allegation of a trans terrorist plot 27 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: by a William Whitworth that we will discuss who planned 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: to shoot up three schools and churches stopped before able 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: to engage in this plot. We'll discuss that. We're actually 30 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: gonna start with another issue. You know, it's interesting, Clay. 31 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: The Biden White House is also put forward has also 32 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: put forward this Title nine rule. I'm sure you saw this. 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: So now the way they're doing it is, well, you 34 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: can't just ban you know, they always say people who 35 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: men straightway, we say people with penises. You cannot ban 36 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: people with penises from competing against women outright in college athletics, 37 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: or or you'll lose your federal funding. It's a Title 38 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: nine violation, So you have to do it on a 39 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: sort of case by case basis and take into account 40 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: the fullness of identity. So this is just incrementalism, and 41 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: this is important to understand because of what happened. So 42 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: you've got that issue coming down from the White House 43 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: about trans Title nine expansion. So no Title nine will 44 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: include men who think they're women. That is what Title nine, 45 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: that's what the White House is trying to do, so 46 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: making a mockery of equality for women in athletics and 47 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: decades and decades of precedent. Well, let's start with our 48 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: friend Riley Gaines Clay who was speaking at San Francisco 49 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: State University and was just talking about this issue of Again, 50 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: the title nine issue comes into play here, separating men 51 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: and women from competing against each other biological males. I 52 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: just think men, I think we got to just go 53 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: back to basics here, folks, men and women, yes, sir, yeah, No, 54 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: I just think we need to explain again who Riley 55 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: Gaines is, because how did she come to be a 56 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: spokesperson on this issue. Riley Gaines is a was a 57 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: swimmer at the University of Kentucky Women's swimming. She competed 58 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: directly against Leah Thomas, who was Will Thomas. And remember, 59 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: I think these contexts matter. This is how she found 60 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: herself as a spokesperson in this arena. Will Thomas swam 61 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: for multiple years as a man for the University of 62 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania men's swimming team. Then he decided to identify as 63 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: a woman, flipped and began swimming for the University of 64 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania women's team. And he became an NC double A 65 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: champion and won the five hundred meter and Riley Gaines 66 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: competed against him at the NC Double A championship. She 67 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: is a lifelong swimmer, elite women's swimmer at the University 68 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: of Kentucky, and after doing that, she said this is wrong, 69 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: and she had the courage to speak out. She's been 70 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: on this program. She is now going around the country 71 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: saying men should not be able to compete against women. 72 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: That's the background, that's the basis of horse speech. She's 73 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: doing it as a former women's college swimmer who had 74 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: to compete against a man with tremendous biological advantages over her. 75 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: And so Thursday night she was at a Turning Point 76 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: Leadership Institute event speaking about saving women's sports from male 77 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: competition and transactivists and the video I mean Clay you 78 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: shared it. I shared it on Twitter. Do we have 79 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: the video up at clayinbuck dot com. We do, so 80 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: anyone who has you need to see this video. Everybody 81 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: go to clainbuck dot com. It is up there. Um 82 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: and obviously if you see if you follow us on Twitter, 83 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: you've seen it there too. You need to understand the 84 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: ferocious psychopathy of this mob. And here's some of the 85 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: audio of this as they attacked, or these transactivists play it. 86 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm good on, I'm gonna yeah. I mean, honestly, it's 87 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: I want to people to hear it. I want to 88 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: people to hear it because it's it's it's demonic sounding. 89 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean, these people, these are college students at you know, 90 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: a state school that has a name. People know it, 91 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: and they are losing their minds. And actually, one male 92 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: with long hair calling himself a woman physically attacked her, 93 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: hit her a couple of times. So this isn't just 94 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: the usual college campus screaming, shouting, being babies, not believing 95 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: the first amendments of Clay. This is a violent mob 96 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: of transagenda lunatics attacking someone invited to speak at a 97 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: college campus. I guarantee none of them will be expelled. 98 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: Nothing is going to happen to them. She needs to 99 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: press full charges, Buck, because if you attack, I mean, 100 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: think about where we've gone. Just we have gone from 101 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: let's make sure that we protect women to now allowing 102 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: men who identify as women to take the moral high 103 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: ground and actually physically assault women. And I want to 104 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: speak out on this because I think she needs to. 105 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: First of all, all these people need to have significant 106 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: consequences for what they did. They should be expelled, in 107 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: my opinion, absolutely all. If they're students, they should be 108 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: They also surrounded her when she was in a room 109 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: and refused to allow her to leave. But here's what 110 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit encouraged about, Buck. I just saw 111 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: a lot of you may know Sage Steele and Samantha Ponder, 112 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 1: who are two of the biggest names at ESPN, and 113 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: both of them have shared this video and now are 114 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: speaking out about this, which is unheard of because remember Buck, 115 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: last week, ESPN said that Leah Thomas was one of 116 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: the Women of the Year athletes. Remember we aired that clip. 117 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: They have totally bought into this lie. Here's what sam 118 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: Ponder said. Just while yes, Riley, so many of us 119 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: are cheering you on. I imagine this has felt lonely 120 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: at times, and I'm genuinely sorry for my own cowardice 121 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: in not speaking out sooner. A strong sister. Here's what 122 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: Sage Steele at that is Sam Ponder at ESPN. Sage 123 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: Steel said, stay strong, Riley Gaines. You have more people 124 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: than you know supporting you and standing up to this madness. 125 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: And then Sage Steele at ESPN said, are there any 126 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: other women with public platforms willing to stand up for 127 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: Riley Gaines and the millions of female athletes? Or do 128 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: we only stand up for those who fit certain narratives? 129 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: All Caps ladies, where are you? Media? Hollywood? Hello? We 130 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: all caps must come together on this sharing this video 131 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: of Riley Gaines being attacked. So Buck, my hope is 132 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: that this is such a viral video moment that you 133 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: can be attacked now in this country for just saying 134 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: men shouldn't be able to compete against women in women's sports. 135 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: This is where the transagenda is. It wasn't one person, 136 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: it was a mob, So everyone needs to understand this 137 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: is not just a one off lunatic. This was an 138 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: angry and violent mob of obviously transactivist students, most of 139 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: whom maybe all of whom, by the way, I don't know. 140 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean, well, there was one guy who says he's 141 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: a woman who actually hit her. But most of them 142 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: are not trans themselves. So these are just Biden voters 143 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: who get a kick out of thinking that they're in 144 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: the new civil rights struggle. You know that they've convinced 145 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: themselves everyone nest to understand. They were yelling things you 146 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: could hit, other than the curses which we had to 147 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: bleep out for you. And you know, I gotta say, 148 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: as a guy, you know, you see a guy with 149 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: long hair who called you know, his name is Bob, 150 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: who calls himself, you know, Sally or whatever, and he 151 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: hits Riley gains that person's you know, you gotta step in. 152 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, this is when they're assaulting women. As a 153 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: man watching this, a man assaulted a woman, I think 154 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: it actually gets to the reality of what happened here. 155 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that that man is deeply emotionally unstable and troubled, 156 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: but you cannot attack physically a woman because you don't 157 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: like her sports policy, which is what happened here. But 158 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: so many of these individuals, Clay, these are just college 159 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: kids who vote for Biden and post left wing tiktoks, 160 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they were all you know, triple masking, 161 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: and this is now just part of the apparatus. This 162 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: is the board, this is the hive mind chasing this 163 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: woman and physically attacking and threatening her. I mean, the 164 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: school should be ashamed. Where are the sit ins over this, 165 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Where are the you know, the camp where the deans 166 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: of diversity saying this isn't who we are. And remember 167 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: what they're attacking her for. Because I think this is 168 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: so important, and I've seen this coming for years. This 169 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: is coming from the world of sports, and I think 170 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of a crystallizing moment for many of you 171 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: out there, men and women. She's being physically attacked on 172 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: a college campus for saying men shouldn't be able to 173 00:10:55,160 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: compete against women in women's athletics. That is not remotely controversial. 174 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: Every single one of you listening out there to us 175 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: right now understands why men's and women's sports are separated 176 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: because men are bigger, stronger, and faster than women and 177 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: if men were competing against women, men would win. This 178 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: is not some revolutionary, incredible insight that has suddenly occurred. 179 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: This is basic biology that everybody understood for hundreds of 180 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: years of athletics, and now she's being physically attacked for 181 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: standing up for the idea of men and women's sports. 182 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: They're shouting in the hallway as they chase her, they 183 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: chase her away from an event, and they're shouting transwomen 184 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: or women. And I keep saying this to everybody, because 185 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: you need to understand, this is not about accepting someone's 186 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: lifestyle choice, cosmetic decisions or whatever. It's not about that 187 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: is that is irrelevant. That's cross dressing. That's irrelevant to this, right, yep. 188 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: That's somebody wants to dress, they want to wear their hair, 189 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: they want to change it, and that's fine. They're not 190 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: even saying you need to represent You need to understand 191 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: this person identifies as trans or is a trans individual, 192 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: and need to be just nice that person that way, 193 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: because everyone sort of sits around and saying, okay, fine, 194 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: that's not that's not the issue. They are saying, this 195 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: is a woman, and if you say anything about this 196 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: person being different from in any way a woman, you 197 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: are the enemy. They are. They are stating the most 198 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: object the most objectifiably obvious, lie, objective lie, and you're 199 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: supposed to go along with it, and if you don't, 200 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: you're a bad person. I mean, this is a moment. 201 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: This is a civilizational moment for America, folks. I hate 202 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: to have to put it into those terms, but can 203 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: we understand the most basic truths and what we defend them? 204 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: Yes or no. That's what you saw in that hallway, 205 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: the mob saying no, you're not allowed to and Buck. 206 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: I think when we come back we can also point 207 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: this out. At some point, inclusiveness begins to exclude, and 208 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: I think that's where we are. And what I mean 209 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: by that is on the bounds of inclusiveness, men who 210 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: identify as women are now replacing actual biological women from 211 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: women's athletics. Their inclusiveness is now excluding women. That's where 212 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: we are. Asset managers names you know they're using your 213 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: retirement funds to further their ESG agenda. 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Make an 232 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: appointment with the truth. Tune in every day to the 233 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and buck Sexton Show. Welcome back in Clay 234 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton show Rolling through the Friday edition of 235 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: the program. We were talking about the situation in the 236 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: Tennessee legislature, the eviction effectively of two Democrat lawmakers and 237 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: a member of the party, a woman who was allowed 238 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: to stay based on one vote. She was not expelled. 239 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: And we're joined now by Cameron Sexton, who was the 240 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: speaker of the Tennessee Legislature. It's a great name, the 241 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: great name, a very great name, great name, as Buck 242 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: Sexton would say. And Speaker Cameron, appreciate you coming on. 243 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: What is the story here, because a lot of people 244 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: don't really know, they just see the headlines. What did 245 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: these individuals do and how did it come to pass 246 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: that two were voted out one was allowed to stay. Yeah, 247 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: thank you for having me on. So there were We've 248 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: had protests in Tennessee for our legislature for a long time, 249 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: and so after the Covenant thing on March that Monday, 250 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: there were protests about guns and so everything I'm about 251 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: telling you has nothing to do with the protest outside 252 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: or the protesters outside the chamber. Outside the capitol. We 253 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: had three members on March thirtieth that were from the 254 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: from the Democrat caucus that approached the well where you 255 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: speak from and commandeered the well, started speaking without recognition, 256 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: which is a violation a gathered amount of order. They 257 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: pulled out a bullhorn and then started leading a protest 258 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: from the house or to those in the balcony inside 259 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: the chamber, to such a degree we had to take 260 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: a recess in order to gain control back. They stayed 261 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: there disruptive for a long period of time. It took 262 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: us about forty five minutes to get us back together 263 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: to where we can continue with business. And so their 264 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: actions were to lead a protest from inside the House 265 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: chamber and disrupt the proceedings and disrupt behavior. They showed 266 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: disruptive behavior themselves, which goes against their oath of office 267 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: that they violated in that regard, and so we all right, no, no, go, 268 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: keep going, sir. Oh yeah. So then we felt like 269 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: it rose to the level of expulsion. It's never happened 270 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: in the Tennessee's history that three members would violate the 271 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: rules to such a degree, and so they were put 272 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: up for expulsion. And so they each were afforded due 273 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: process to make statements, to take questions and make their 274 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: case on why they should not be expelled. Two of 275 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: the members were expelled. The one member, Representive Johnson, who 276 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: is trying to claim that she was saved because of 277 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: she's white, which is totally wrong. When you were if 278 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: you listen to what she said. She said, I did 279 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: not use the bullhorn that they used. They snuck in 280 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: a bullhorn as well. I did not use the bullhorn. 281 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: Represent Johnson said, I did not shout, I did not yell. 282 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: I did not pound the podium. I did not set 283 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 1: on the podium. So Representative Johnson is the one who 284 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: actually tried to distance herself from the other two to 285 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: save herself and try not to be expelled, and she 286 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: got close to one vote would have had her expelled. 287 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: So but it is interesting because then thank you Speaker 288 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: for clearing all this up. So everybody else, though on 289 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: the Republican side, still thought even though she didn't use 290 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: the bullhorn, she should go right. So there was one 291 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: individual who flipped as a result of her plea that 292 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: she says she made a different level of noise to 293 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: keep her job. And then she turns around and says, oh, 294 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: it was racist. That's actually why they didn't expel me, 295 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: but they expelled the other two members. Is that accurate? 296 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: Is accurate? There's more than one member who who made 297 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: a flip that she got sixty five votes. She needed 298 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: sixty six votes to be expelled. Six members voted not 299 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: to expel her, and then there were I think three 300 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: members who did not vote at all that were in 301 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: the chamber, and so if any one of those people 302 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: would have voted to expel her, she would have been expelled. 303 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: So is there any ability to go back and expel her, 304 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: because I look at this and I feel like, you 305 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: know the number one story, and I'm sure you've seen 306 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: now Kamala Harris is going to come to Nashville. She 307 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: couldn't come for the six victims who were shot and 308 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: killed until this story happens, and I'm sure one of 309 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: the first things she's gonna say is, oh, this is 310 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: super racist. This is what happens in Tennessee. I kind 311 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: of wish you guys would just go back and vote 312 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: out this this white woman who was now saying the 313 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: only reason she didn't get voted out is because of racism. Well, yeah, 314 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: we had the chance. She was put up, she had 315 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: due process, and the body of the members that were 316 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: there said she didn't need to go. So unless there's 317 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: other actions that she does, which if there is in 318 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: the future that rises to that level, then we can 319 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: take a look at it. But at this point, she yeah, 320 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: we get it. She's she's escaped escaped justice on this 321 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: one in a sense. But Speaker Sexton, it's got of 322 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: funny to say, Speaker Sexton, do the other do the 323 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: members that voted, the Republicans that voted to let her stay, 324 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: do they realize what a political blunder this is. I 325 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: can't answer for them. I'm sure that they have at 326 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: least at some point today. Yeah, you know, because I 327 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: can't speak for him, but you know, the claims that 328 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: she made our fault, and then I think my understanding 329 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: is even represent the Pearson came out. I haven't seen it, 330 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: but I've heard about it. So it's third hand right 331 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: now that he came out with comments that basically said 332 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: that she kind of threw them under the bus, the 333 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: other two members, So he kind of agrees that what 334 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: she did was pushed them aside. So what happens now 335 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: you're seeing I'm sure that this has gotten national attention 336 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: and people are like, oh my god, I'm in the 337 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: Barack Obama tweeted about it, like I said, Kamala Harris 338 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: is coming to town. I'm sure somebody from Joe Biden's team, 339 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: I know they have in fact already tweeted. We know 340 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden has no idea what's actually going on about anything, 341 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: But what is going to happen now? What do you 342 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: anticipate the next step being in terms of this legislature? Response, Well, 343 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to do as much as I can. 344 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: You know, the thing is, the left is very organized, 345 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: and they're very direct, and they all speak on the 346 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: same page, and they're all saying the same thing, and 347 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: so it you know, we're we're working to come back 348 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: that because it was not racism, was based on facts, 349 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: based on their actions on the House floor, and they 350 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: continue to make the same They keep saying their voices 351 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: where silence. Their voices are not silence. They they disregard 352 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: for the House rules, and they actually violated their oath 353 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: of office. To your point, by the way, for people 354 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: out there, and obviously most people are not going to 355 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: know about the daily procedures or goings on inside of 356 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: any state legislative body. Has anybody ever taken over the 357 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: Tennessee House for forty five minutes, as you said, like 358 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: these members did as part of their protests. Has that 359 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: ever occurred before in the history of the state of 360 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: Tennessee that you're aware of? No as not, so they 361 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: truly get engaged in unprecedented behavior, which I think a 362 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: lot of people are missing. So based on your legislative research, 363 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: this is not just an act. This is an act 364 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: that's truly never occurred before. It's never occurred, and so 365 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: we were setting precedent. And so my question to everybody was, 366 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: if this is not grounds for expulsion, then what is. 367 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: If three Republicans did this two years ago on the 368 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: congressional floor with Nancy Pelosias speaker during a live debate, 369 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: rushed to the front with a bullhorn, I think they 370 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: would have expelled that. I mean, look, tried to justify 371 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: I'm a Floridian out of Tennesseean, But I think that 372 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: expelling all three was absolutely would have been absolutely the 373 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: right thing. It's just the blunder here of believing a 374 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: lib pleading for her job that she wasn't going to 375 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: use this for political purposes, which she obviously has to 376 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: unfortunately considerable success at the national level, and turn the 377 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: whole story into something other than what it was. I 378 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: don't know how the six members or whoever it is 379 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: in the Republican side, how they couldn't see this coming. 380 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: That's the only part of it that still remains a shock. 381 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: But Speaker sex And we appreciate you coming on and 382 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: telling us what really happened. The audience now has all 383 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: the facts that we understand what the situation is. Thank 384 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: you all for having me. Thank you Speaker of the House, 385 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: Cameron Sexton. Appreciate him coming on. Mark. It's been brutal. 386 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about inflation. It's everywhere. Buck and I recently 387 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: met with Dutch Mendenhall. Dutch is the founder of rad Diversified. 388 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: He's a patriot, loves our military, gives a lot back 389 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: to our veterans. Dutch and his team are experts at 390 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: buying cash flowing real estate. They brought major stability to 391 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: thousands of investors in the most volatile times. 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It's always so fun when you understand that 409 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: media news media for places like The New York Times 410 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: is such over propaganda. Now they're saying that the US 411 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: job growth slows but remains strong over here. Two hundred 412 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: and thirty six thousand jobs in March, which is not great, 413 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: but they're saying it shows the federal reserves inflation fighting 414 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: campaign is taking hold. Okay, So even when it's not 415 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: so good and the jobs are dropping down, that's a 416 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: good thing, because you know, they got to convince everybody 417 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: this economy that most of us believe is about to 418 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: really take a dive and all of us feel is 419 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: not so good. How's your four one K doing? How's 420 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: the price of eggs? Oh? I know there was a 421 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: thing about the chickens and the virus and everything else, 422 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: but still inflation is high. Food, everything else is expensive. 423 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: We'll talk about all that a little bit. And also, 424 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: how can it be that the expectation is for everyone 425 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's going to run again, and yet Democrats are like, well, 426 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: we don't want Joe Biden to run. Tells you a 427 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: lot about where their psychologists. But I'm going to start 428 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: with something else today, Clay, I'd mentioned to the team before. 429 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm here in New York and I am visiting my 430 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: family here for Easter. I know today is Good Friday 431 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: for those who are Christian, and you know, celebrate these 432 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: holidays world. Today is obviously a day of solemnity, but 433 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: Sunday will be the Resurrection of Jesus. And anyway, so 434 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: I'm up here for a vacation, Clay, and I'm always curious. 435 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm back and forth between New York and 436 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: Florida fair amount, and I'm thinking to myself, all right, 437 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: what's it really like in the city these days? And 438 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: I this morning, I hopped on the subway as I 439 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: used to do. At one point four times a day, 440 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: was how often I was on the subway. In twenty nineteen. 441 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: I was going up and back and then up and 442 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: back again for two different shows that I had to 443 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: do in New York City. And so I'm on the 444 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: subway platform. I'm walking up and I get to the 445 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: top of the stairs, not on the street level, but 446 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: in the sort of interior where you can cross over 447 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: if you want to go uptown or downtown of the 448 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: New York City subway. And I see a guy who 449 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: is standing there and I don't I don't know how 450 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: to say this other than to say this on the radio. 451 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: But he was um tre treating his body like an 452 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: amusement part. Yes, yes he was. He was staring at 453 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: women walking up the steps and masturbating. Was what was 454 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: going on at nine o'clock in the morning in Columbus Circle. 455 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: This is what I saw. Guys. Now, he's sort of covered, 456 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, covered himself a little bit with a with 457 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: a jacket, but you could you could see what the 458 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: guy's doing. Okay, I don't know what you can see 459 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: where this guy is doing. And I had this moment 460 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: in my head. I go, well, what am I supposed 461 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: to do? I look around, right, he hadn't he didn't, 462 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: he didn't assault that. Hey, we didn't touch anyone, Okay, 463 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: so it's it's not an imminent threat to anyone's you know, 464 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: physical safety. It's just this guy's doing this thing. And 465 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: some of the team here told me they've seen this before. 466 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: I have never in all my decades at nine am. 467 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: For people who don't know New York City, well at 468 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: nine am, and this is the arrestically a nice area 469 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,239 Speaker 1: of New York City, right, it's Columbus Circle. I mean, 470 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: it's where the Columbus Statue is. It's very uh you know, 471 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: right by Central Park, right by the big time Warner building. 472 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: And I'll be honesty of New York. I've seen a 473 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: lot in New York in my years here. And I 474 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: used to be I was a young guy here. I 475 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: used to go out till, you know, three four o'clock 476 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: in the morning, and you know, I've done all that stuff. 477 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: So I've seen some stuff. This was so shocking to 478 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: me that and I actually kind of I was like that, 479 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: I had a moment of disbelief. I'm like, there's no 480 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: way this guy's actually just doing that right there like that. 481 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, I've seen, you know, going to the bathroom 482 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 1: in paub that everybody's doing that here. Who's you know, 483 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: not everybody, but you know what I mean, Like every 484 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: crazy person you see who's a vagrant, is you know, 485 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: going and going on the streets because it's not illegal 486 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: anymore in New York. It used to be you could 487 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: get arrested, get a summons for it, but now you 488 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: do whatever you want anyway. I know this is gross, folks, 489 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, but I'm walking up. But I'm thinking 490 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: to myself, all right, let's let's let's let's play this 491 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: out of my head for a second. I look around, 492 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: no cops anywhere, No cops anywhere, because I would have, 493 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, flagged an officer down. And I go, all right, 494 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: So now I'm supposed to go find an officer, I guess, 495 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to say, sir, this is what I saw. 496 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to maybe walk the officer by the way. 497 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: I don't know where this cops is gonna be. I'm 498 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: not gonna I'm gonna call nine one one over this um. 499 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: Other people by the way I'm not. There are masses 500 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: of people walking by this guy, like no one is 501 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: even going. I mean, I I would have kept going. 502 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: But I think it speaks to the lack of safety 503 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: and decorum that exists in the public transportation now that 504 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: this could even occur, and that most people are just 505 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: gonna roll their eyes and keep going. And it's it's 506 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: such a ridiculous and that's kind of a pun almost 507 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: such a ridiculous situation to find yourself. And I know people, 508 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, I understand people that don't deal with there 509 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: are and there's a there's this has been a long time, uh, 510 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, in the making. But you know, if you 511 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: live in like a pretty nice suburban area of the country, 512 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: or you know, if you're from like a suburb of Houston, 513 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: or if you're from you know, you're not seeing the 514 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: kind of stuff we're seeing in New York City. Okay, 515 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: so I'm just just putting that out there here. But 516 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: you are if you're in downtown San Francisco, yeah, you're 517 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: in LA But this is what I mean, you are 518 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: in any of these big cities. It's it's hard. It's 519 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: hard for people that live in places with more order 520 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: to understand the level of disorder and some of these 521 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, urban Democrats strongholds out San France, Seattle, LA. 522 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: By the stuff that I've seen on recent trips to 523 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles going on, I'm like, really, you know, Santa Monica, 524 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: Venice Beach and stuff that's going on the streets there anyway. 525 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: But I just I just walked through this. Keep in mind, 526 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg just indicted Trump. You know, we see what 527 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: a total clown show the justice system has turned into 528 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: here in New York City. Let's say I say something 529 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: to this guy. Let's say, I say, you know how 530 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: you know how dare you sir? And let's say, and 531 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: now you really got to think this through. He puts 532 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: hands on me, which this is not a good place 533 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: for me to be. It's not a good place for 534 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: me to be, folks, you know, you're thinking this one through. 535 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: So he grabs me with two naked guys fighting in 536 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: a locker room. You may not like the naked naked 537 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: guys fighting, but you're probably just gonna let him have 538 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: at it. But you know, he puts he puts hands 539 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: hands on me, which is really and you know, and 540 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: we get into a scuffle, maybe then police arrive or something, 541 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, whatever, and I say, hey, this is what 542 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: this guy was doing. What what? Well, he's gonna say 543 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't. He's gonna say, you know that, you know, 544 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,239 Speaker 1: I I started something with him. He was actually he 545 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: was just fixing his belt, or he's gonna come up 546 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: with some you know, explanation for what was going on 547 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: that you know, had nothing to do with anything. And 548 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, and now it's now it's you know, right 549 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: wing radio host accuses. I'm sure they'll go back and 550 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: they'll find that, you know, the guy got some award 551 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 1: in the third grade, like honors scholar of doing you know, 552 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: unspeakable things. And you know, it's just you can't trust 553 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: the system here at all, is my point. I have 554 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: no faith even if they find out this guy's got 555 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, his wander, different sex crimes and it's, you know, 556 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: got all kinds of stuff in his past. I can't 557 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: trust that they're going to take my word for what 558 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: was going on here and they go up to this guy. 559 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean, so, Clay, how does this get better in 560 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: places like this? This is my ultimate point. How is 561 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: it going to improve? I've been here for twenty four 562 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: hours my first step on this literally first day, first 563 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: steps on the subway. This is what I see. Well, 564 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: first of all, the answer is this person has to 565 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: fear punishment in order to behave I mean, that's the 566 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: number one rule that I think we've lost. No one 567 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: really fears the punishment for their wrongfulness. And I think 568 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: about it, at least you're a grown man. Imagine how 569 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: many people buck might have experienced that. As it's Easter weekend. 570 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 1: Let's say you brought your family into New York because 571 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: you want to be there for the holiday, and one 572 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: of the first things you see is a guide treating 573 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: him to his body like an amusement park. And you've 574 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: got an eight year old with you or a twelve 575 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: year old, and you're trying to walk up the stairs 576 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: at again, right at Central Park because you want to 577 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: take the kids and go through Central Park. This is 578 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: how things fall apart. It's not necessarily just the extreme violence, 579 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: although we know certainly that is skyrocketing too, but it 580 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: is all of these small, relatively inconsequential things that add 581 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: up to destroy the overall environment that many people are 582 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: living in. This is what I was just talking to 583 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: my family about because I went over and saw them 584 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: right before I came in to do the show today, Clay, 585 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: and I was just saying, you know, we focus so 586 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: much on the statistics that they can't hide like murder, carjackings. 587 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: You know where people are gonna report it, and it's 588 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: terrible and it's dangerous, and bad things have happened, understandably. 589 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: But if you're in a healthy law and order based society, 590 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: you don't have to assume that every time you go 591 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: into a public place like the subway system in New York, 592 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: or like downtown in San Francisco, or you know, you 593 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: go to all these think of all these different areas, 594 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: you're going to be screamed at with profanity and threatened 595 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: by maniacs because that doesn't get really reported, right, that's 596 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: not necessarily And by the way, if you do report it, 597 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: you know what's going to happen to those individuals. Nothing. 598 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: But you would think that you could go on the 599 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: subway and not see some guy engaging in uh, you know, 600 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: auto erotica in broad daylight in front of all the tourists, 601 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: and that that would be something that you could have 602 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: it as an expectation. But even even if I went 603 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: and ran and flagged down a police. By the way, 604 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: am I gonna have to go to court and testify 605 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: against this guy? Now? You know how involved in this 606 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: do I really want to get? I don't leave. Yeah, 607 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: that's why I said I would have just walked by. 608 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done anything, you know. I mean, you know, 609 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: you draw the line if someone's if you think you 610 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: can help them. By the way, sometimes people have intervened 611 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: to help people being attacked in the subway and guess 612 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: what happens. They get attacked and it gets really ugly. 613 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: So you're taking a risk there. And I don't even 614 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: believe that the justice system here, depending on the politics 615 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: of who is involved in the assault, the altercation, etc. 616 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't think you could trust them to be reasonable. 617 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: Look at what Brag just did to the guy who 618 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: got shot. He would, by the way, I believe he's 619 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: a he's an immigrant from um I forget where, but 620 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: the guys an immigrants country's not a white guy. And 621 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: he shot the guy who shot him, and Bragg chained 622 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: him to his hospital bed recovering from his wounds and 623 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: charged him with attempted murder for two days. Yeah, that's 624 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: and he did it to the Bedea owner. So this 625 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: is why anyone, I mean, anyone who knows anything about 626 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: big city politics knows it's like, oh, Buck, like you 627 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: saw this, like you should should have gotten That's that's 628 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: why the most people would just walk by, I guarantee you, 629 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: because they said, I just don't want to get involved. 630 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't and I don't trust the authorities here full stop. 631 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't trust them. It's not that I don't, by 632 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: the way, it's not that I don't trust the NYPD. 633 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: I trust the NYPD guys and gals too. If I said, hey, 634 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: this is going on, I think they would try to 635 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: do something. That guy, if arrested, would be back out 636 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: on the streets in two hours, yep. And you know what, 637 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: he'd be doing the same thing. And you know what 638 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: they do when they arrested him for time number fifteen 639 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: or number fifty, Maybe they'd send him to Bellevue for 640 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: an evaluation or something. He'd be out on the streets again. 641 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: And I look at the cops and I'm like, how 642 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: can I blame it? It is the prosecutors, It is 643 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: the mayor, It is Alvin Bragg, it is Eric Adams. 644 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: Eric Adams is a disaster He has been just unbelievably 645 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: incompetent trying to fix this city. And I look around, 646 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: I look at the look at what happened in Chicago. 647 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: Look at these Democrats voting for more Democrats. You guys 648 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: are wrong. It's not gonna work. You need someone to 649 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: come in and clean up the mess. Who's serious about it. 650 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: You're not going to improve these cities otherwise. And I mean, 651 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: we're losing some of the greatest American cities. And I 652 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: would argue some of the greatest cities in the world 653 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 1: to idiotic policies that cowards who have their own shows 654 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: on MSNBC. Oh yeah, morning, Joe. Please, When was the 655 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: last time that guy drove a car himself to get 656 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: into work every day? Oh? I'm really Mika. You know 657 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: I'll take care of first of all, he lives he 658 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: lives in Florida too. But you know the whole thing, Clay, 659 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: it's you know, they should put me in charge. Man. Honestly, 660 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: I'd cleaned up the streets fast. I'll tell you that. One. 661 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna just have to get so bad 662 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: that a Giuliani like figure rises up in many of 663 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: these different hellhole Democrats cities. We certainly haven't gotten there 664 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: yet in Chicago based on what happened to the mayor's race. 665 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: But I think that's ultimately what's going to have to happen. 666 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: People haven't suffered enough. Bottom lot Democrats haven't suffered enough 667 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: in the cities that they have destroyed. So maybe one day. 668 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: All right, this is a big weekend for picture taking, 669 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: as we know, Easter weekend, Passover celebrations. 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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton 698 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay an Buck our friends. Steve Dace 699 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: is with us now. He is a radio host with 700 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: The Blaze podcast hosts as well best selling author. He 701 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: has a fauci book that makes me think that he 702 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: might actually despise Fauci as much as me. I don't 703 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: know if it's possible, but his Fauci book makes a 704 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: strong case. And he's also got a new film coming out, Nefarious. Steve, 705 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the film as a sac How are 706 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: you doing? I'm good, guys. How are you all right? 707 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: What are you? What are you seeing? I mean when 708 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: when Biden is the presumed the presumed presidential contender on 709 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: the Democrat side running is an incumbent, but huge percentage 710 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: of even Democrats say he's not gonna run. And then 711 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: he's supposed to be a moderate, but now he's pushing 712 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: Title nine to include trans men to be able to 713 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: compete against women. Steve, What's what's going on here? Like? 714 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: What's the Democrat play? I mean, They're not a political 715 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: party anymore, guys. I mean they are really just a 716 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: hub in a manifestation of really a form an aberrant 717 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: form of religious zella. Try they just I mean, polling, information, 718 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: blowback from voters, any other previous market force that you 719 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: would have used to try to leverage a political party 720 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: from going insane just simply does not apply to them. 721 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: Which is why I'm going to be very fascinated with 722 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 1: RFK Junior getting into that race because obviously he has 723 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: some views that are outside the mainstreamlines some things, but 724 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 1: he still carries a very potent name and he will 725 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: not back down. And if anything else, if nothing else, 726 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: you're going to find out how many people are still 727 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: sane over there? Right? How many people just vote over 728 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,479 Speaker 1: there because they think they have to tolerate this woke 729 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: cult in order to get access to the social programs 730 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: they think their community needs or that they think are 731 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: better for communities they're trying to serve. And so they 732 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: just tolerate this and think that's just part of the 733 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: well Faucian bargain they have to make politically to get 734 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: to the end game. And then how many people are 735 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: really adhering to this? And that's something that I think 736 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: the particularly like a state like New Hampshire. I think 737 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: that's where the insertion of someone like RFK Jr. May 738 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: give us that kind of an answer. I would just 739 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: prepare your audience to be disappointed by us. Yeah, Steve, 740 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: I would have never believed. I'm guessing that you've probably 741 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: seen the Riley Gaines viral video by now. She has 742 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: a real radical position. She's a former college athlete who 743 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: believes that women should compete against women in athletics and 744 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: not men. And yet she was just attacked, shouted down, 745 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: and not allowed to even share that opinion on a 746 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: state university campus in California. How wild is it that 747 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: that's where we are in terms of what the woke 748 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: religion will even allow. The big culture war play, the 749 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: big culture war battle in America really post counterculture emergence 750 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: of the sixties and and really into about the last decade. 751 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: The big battle was we all agree left and right. 752 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: Pretty much everyone agreed you were an individual and that 753 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: came with it some level of autonomy. You may think 754 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: that comes from being created, an image of God that 755 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: comes from being a higher evolved being. The argument was 756 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: largely over whether there were limits on your autonomy and conscience. 757 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: Is there a higher authority that I must adhere to? 758 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: Am I allowed to do anything I want with another 759 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: consenting adult? These were largely the arguments that were the 760 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: rubric of the of the culture war that defined liberals 761 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,919 Speaker 1: and conservatives for you know, about a generation. The new 762 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: argument and this is why when I started doing my 763 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: thing fifteen years ago, it was to respond to things 764 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: like religionists by Bill Maher And now I played Bill 765 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: Maher clips on my show favorably, and I don't think 766 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: he's changed many of his views. And I know I'm 767 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: probably to the right of where I was fifteen years ago. 768 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: Here's what's changed. The debate has now. The debate is 769 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: am I autonomous at all? Do I have any liberty 770 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: at all? Not what the extent of my liberty is, 771 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: not what the limits of it are, but does it exist? 772 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 1: Am I allowed a conscience? Am I permitted critical thinking? 773 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: Am I permitted to think for myself? That is the 774 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: new culture ward debate. And you see this play out 775 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: on social media. The same people that started off with 776 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: Ukraine flags, started off with masks, started off with their 777 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: jab pass and now are posting their pronouns and their bios. 778 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: It's to show their adherence to this religion. And that's 779 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: what you're seeing with Dylan Muldeney. There's a reason why 780 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: this guy is now is now the spokesperson for all 781 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: of these companies. It's not the old let's pander you 782 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: know during Pride Month in June. This is like a 783 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 1: recognition of ecclesiastical authority. He is a prophet, he's a priest, 784 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: he's an apostle, and so we genuine flect to him, 785 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: and I think on the right we have to be 786 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: more honest about what we are up against. This is 787 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: not a mere political movement, It is an absolute religion. 788 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 1: Speaking of Steve Dace, podcast host and also author and filmmaker, 789 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: and Steve, to that end, your film Nefarious, tell the 790 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: folks a little bit about it. Now we can get 791 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: into how they can go and see it, but I 792 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: just want to know before you get into it. It's 793 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: so encouraging to see people trying to get into the 794 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: cultural space here and create content that's not just sort 795 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: of news commentary, politics and go beyond that. But tell 796 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: us about the film, Well, we tried to break the 797 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: mold here, Buck, I mean, we think one of the 798 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: things that is limited conservative and Christian filmmaking when it 799 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: comes to original storytelling, it is, frankly, the people who 800 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: fund it and is it nice enough, we'll let offend 801 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: Aunt Petunia, does it do this? Does it do that? 802 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: And we just decided let's just, you know, risk all 803 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: the money we have and fund it ourselves. So we're 804 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: never going to play that game. We are just going 805 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: to make the best movie we can, and we're not 806 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: also going to try to check ideological boxes, because all 807 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: that will come out organically if we just tell the 808 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: best story we can. And make no mistake, this movie 809 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: absolutely exposes the woke religion, as Clay just referred to it. 810 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: It absolutely exposes these things, takes these things on. It 811 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: will look and sound like a lot of the psychological 812 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: thrillers from the nineties. Silence of the Lambs said in 813 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: Primal Fear, you know, back before when they still made 814 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: good movies in Hollywood. It'll look and sound like that. 815 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: The production value is very high, but it will absolutely 816 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: be from the standpoint of our own worldview. And this 817 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: is something that's never been tried before. I think this 818 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: is why, you know. There was a great review that 819 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: conservative comedian Tim Young wrote today over to American Greatness, saying, hey, 820 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: this is not what is typical. It's it's breaking a mold. 821 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: It's actually it's not a conservative or Christian movie. It's 822 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: a real movie. It just so happens to touch on 823 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: many of those themes. And so I would warn audiences 824 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: like yours, don't get freaked out by the marketing. We 825 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: are marketing as a general horror movie because we're trying 826 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: to reach gen Z before it adopts and embraces all 827 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: of the horrors we were just describing, And so we 828 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: marketed it in a way that kind of appeals to 829 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 1: what they're used to going and seeing in the movies. 830 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: But make no mistake, if you can get people that 831 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: are not sure what they believe or you think are 832 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: going to be lost to this spirit of the age, 833 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: if you can get them in the theater with our 834 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: slick marketing, we are going to use this platform to 835 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 1: say to them what you want a movie to say. 836 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 1: For sure, Steve, where can people go see this movie? 837 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: And I'll let you answer that first. But then the 838 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: second part of this is I love horror movies. It 839 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: seems like horror movies in general are ascended right now. 840 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: That is, there are many of them out there that 841 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: are wildly popular. What do you attribute that rise too 842 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: in our pop culture? As it pertains to the success 843 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: of horror movies overall last year, even though it was 844 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 1: just coming out of COVID Clay, Hollywood still released thirty 845 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: one horror films last year. It is the most profitable 846 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: genre right now. I think it speaks to the spiritual 847 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 1: angst that we are feeling as a culture. And I 848 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: think because frankly, a lot of our churches collectively don't 849 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: shine their lights anymore and instead shine a sweater vested, 850 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 1: khaki panted, nicer than God Hawaiian shirt wearing guys. People 851 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 1: are looking for love and all the wrong places. They're 852 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: looking for spirituality, but they're they're turning to the darkness 853 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 1: for it. And so that is what we try to 854 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: address with Nefarious. This is where this is where the 855 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,439 Speaker 1: people are, This is where they're they're hashing out these 856 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 1: spiritual themes. They're not doing it in our churches anymore, 857 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: They're doing it in these darker places. And so we 858 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 1: went there to shine the light on this actual darkness. 859 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: And I think I'm very proud of how the film 860 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 1: turned out. We managed to make a movie that doesn't 861 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: have any f bombs, any blood, any of the stuff 862 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 1: that they normally put in movies that deal with demonic themes. 863 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, I mean, Father Carlos Martin's 864 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: or at the Exorcist Files podcast says that's the most 865 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: accurate demonic possession movie Hollywood has ever done, and he's 866 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,720 Speaker 1: been number one, you know, Exorcist rated by the Vatican, 867 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: so I'm going to defer to him on that one. 868 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: So if you can, by the way, people can go 869 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: see this how theaters nationwide coming up on April fourteenth. 870 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: You can get tickets at nefarious tickets dot com. That's 871 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: nefarious tickets dot com. Steve good a God, thanks for 872 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: being with us. Come back and give them the show soon. 873 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: Give Glenn our regards. We'll do guys anytime. God bless you, 874 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. That's a big time buck release theaters nationwide, 875 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: so I can't wait to check it out. I know 876 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: we've got screeners, but I like to go watch scary 877 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: movies in an actual movie theater. 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