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Speaker 1: Week four is upon US college football is in full swing.

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Speaker 1: Conference play is getting ready to heat up. We got

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Speaker 1: every game, all six games. We're previewing those. And on

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Speaker 1: the hills of Mike Leech's press conference, rand we got

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Speaker 1: the mascot power rankings and Ralph has to explain himself

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Speaker 1: and the A P pole were their nonsense And we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about Friday night games. How is this good

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Speaker 1: or is this bad? For the Pac twelve. I'm George

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Speaker 1: rest with Ralph Ampston and this is the Pack twelve,

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Speaker 1: apostles Ralph. Every Pack twelve team is in action except

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Speaker 1: for Arizona in Oregon State and with non to non

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Speaker 1: conference games. You got Cal going to Old miss even

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Speaker 1: though Old Mrs not ranked. You got Washington playing b

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Speaker 1: like two critical games for the national perception of the

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve, which you agree, Yeah, I mean, you're not

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Speaker 1: it's very, very important for the Fact twelve to at

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Speaker 1: know the SEC West is considered you know one of

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Speaker 1: the tough divisions in all college football, and what CAL

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Speaker 1: has a chance to do right now is proved that

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Speaker 1: And then you know, as far as as as as

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Speaker 1: far as the other game, I mean, I wouldn't I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't put it other as having like equal importance, UM

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Speaker 1: for the by I think that just for the sake

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Speaker 1: I I I don't think that that game will be

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Speaker 1: But but I think that I think that it's about

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Speaker 1: the SEC right now, the SEC Impact twelve. And then

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Speaker 1: you know, there's no conference to assigned b Y YouTube

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Speaker 1: they're independent, they don't really you know matter all that

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Speaker 1: much except for just this this pest in the West

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Speaker 1: that's playing a lot of your teams, and so I

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Speaker 1: think that, uh, I think they're both important. But I

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Speaker 1: think that whole Pack twelve versus SEC saying one of

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Speaker 1: the road SEC team, I think that looks really really

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Speaker 1: bad for your conference. Oh, I totally agree. I think

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Speaker 1: the Cow Old Miss game is huge because Cal beat Washington.

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Speaker 1: Washington has a good national perception. So if Cal beats

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Speaker 1: Washington and then comes back and gets beat by Old Miss,

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Speaker 1: who's not gonna have a chance to win the SEC,

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Speaker 1: then that looks bad. But this Cow team already did

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Speaker 1: beat oh Miss in two thousand seventeen at home. They

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Speaker 1: their standards. They scored a whopping seven. So this is

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Speaker 1: a few other things to talk about. First. First thing,

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Speaker 1: days ago I stayed up until one thirty in the

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Speaker 1: morning and saw cal beat Washington. And this was not

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Speaker 1: a fluke because they did it for the second time

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Speaker 1: Washington is better than Cow. Explain yourself. It was only

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Speaker 1: It's not like Washington beat Alabama and then came back

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Speaker 1: a top pole. There is no reason that Washington should

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Speaker 1: There's no excuse for it. It speaks to the silliness

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Speaker 1: not be more correct when it comes to that. Here's

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Speaker 1: watching that game, believe that Washington is still better equipped

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Speaker 1: cannot make sense of especially league. Okay, So, Ralph, there

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Speaker 1: have more information. If Washington beats Cal, I mean Cal

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Speaker 1: But the problem is they project out into the future.

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Speaker 1: school football in Arizona. I've got about fifteen different writers

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Speaker 1: a ballot every Tuesday morning. And I'm gonna be honest, like,

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Speaker 1: That's the way I do my power ranking off off schedule,

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Speaker 1: I do not factor in future edules potential of the team.

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Speaker 1: leaving the amount the google find a way, uh, clear

432
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: minded and crafty, a combination of stay out of harm's

433
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: way and and uh and attack when you get your

434
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: your chances or your openings. Mike Leakes is classic dude.

435
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: He must be fun to interview in a press conference

436
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: because you can literally bring up anything and he's probably

437
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: gotta thought about Yeah. I mean, I got I gotta

438
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: love hate relationship with with his whole thing because people

439
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: got to do their job. Um, so at some point

440
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 1: you want him to be to be serious. But also,

441
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: like a lot of people's job is just the content, right,

442
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: and he's a content machine, his quotes go viral. The

443
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: things he says people love to read about and talk

444
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: about and everything like that. Um. Sometimes his lack of

445
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: seriousness to me is a little bit um much. Uh.

446
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: I hate how he sort of gets a pass, like

447
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: his goofiness has given him a pass uh in the

448
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: past to kind of say some things that are not

449
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: really advisable or even in classic. I mean, when he

450
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: came out and he dropped that bomb on Arizona State

451
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: and said like it's a fact that they were cheating

452
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: and stealing signs and and all that stuff. He ends

453
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: up getting fined for it, but nobody in the moment

454
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: like really called him out for that. He sort of

455
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: built up this ability to say what he wants when

456
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: he wants. Like this dude has forty players from California,

457
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: and he told the media today that there are this

458
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: week that that law that California is trying to pass

459
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: that would allow players to profit off their likeness is

460
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: not something that California should be doing because their streets

461
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: are full of trash and homeless people and they should

462
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: focus on that. Any other coach in America says something

463
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: like that, and they have just an absolute crap storm

464
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: to deal with coming back at them. Mike Leach has

465
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: forty players from California on his a roster. He has

466
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: to recruit California in order to even survive, and he

467
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: doesn't care at all. He doesn't care at all. He's

468
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: not recruiting. He's not recruiting. No, he's not. He's not.

469
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: But I think that any other coach would hear any

470
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: sort of pushback, and he doesn't. Partly is because of

471
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: his personality and who he is, which is what makes

472
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: him refreshing to people. And the other part of it

473
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: is that like he just has lulled the media into

474
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: this sense of into the sense of like, oh, nothing

475
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: he does is serious. He's sort of a mascot in

476
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: it of himself and um, and so I don't know,

477
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: it's sometimes it's hilarious to me, and sometimes I get

478
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: annoyed by it. Um. In this particular case, I was

479
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: very entertained. I see, he never bothers me with stuff

480
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: he says, because you have to think about it, like

481
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: everybody is responsible for the things that they say, and

482
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: you're not immune to consequences. So Mike Leech, who's clearly

483
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: one of the best coaches in America. Clearly, when big

484
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: time jobs come up USC, they're not thinking about them. Tennessee,

485
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: and we're passing you up. How many times has Mike Leach,

486
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: who has built Washington State from what was considered the

487
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: worst Power of five job in America into a top

488
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: twenty five team and last year a top ten team

489
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: at one point? Boyt in time, how do you possibly

490
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: not get bigger time head coaching jobs because you say

491
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: stuff like this, And granted it should not count against you,

492
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: but this is the world that we live in. They

493
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: want coaches who project a certain image. They looked a part.

494
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you only want when you when you

495
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 1: care about looks more than substance, you get kind of

496
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: the situation that USC has got right now. They're all

497
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: always trying to hire a trojan man. They're always trying

498
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: to hire somebody who looks the part, who can who

499
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: can glad hand the boosters in a certain way. Don't

500
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: you need to be concerned about winning football games? Is

501
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: number one as your number one priority? And they win,

502
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: and then that they have more wins than any other

503
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: Pack twelve team in conference play or maybe overall in

504
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: the last three years. So I mean, if they were

505
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: losing and he was doing stuff like this, maybe it

506
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: would be different, but they're winning, so you can do

507
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: what he wants. Yep. You you win, you get a pass.

508
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: But okay, so, Ralph, what are your Pack twelve Conference

509
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: Mascot Power rankings? Because we talked about what we what

510
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: criteria that we were basing this on. Yeah, we were

511
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: gonna base it. So I think we should go back

512
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: and forth. I think that normally we like rattle off

513
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: our bottom ones or whatever, but I think we should

514
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: go twelve, twelve, eleven, eleven, ten, ten and go through

515
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: it that way, just because Okay, and you're gonna have

516
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: to go first because I got a tie for twelve,

517
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: and you know, normally in a in a rankings, it

518
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: would be a tie for eleven, right, uh, and there

519
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: would be no twelve. But I need both of these

520
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: ones that I have to be in last place, So

521
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go first, and we'll just trade

522
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: off on there. Uh, all right. In the Judas spot,

523
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: I got cow I got cows Oscy only because I

524
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: had no idea who this guy's name was. I had

525
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: no clue. And if you see cows Bear, he looks

526
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: so friendly. He looks like a Berkeley Bear. He looks

527
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: super preppy. He is, you know, he doesn't look like

528
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: he could hurt anybody. And he's not popular. He's just

529
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: a kid. He's going to school. He's trying to get

530
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: his master's degree and go get a good job and

531
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 1: be somebody's boss one day. Because Cow's a good school like,

532
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: he's non threatening and you have no clue what what

533
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: he does. And in reality, Cow's bear is a Grizzly

534
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: bear and they're extinct anyway in California, so so their

535
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: bear is extinct. And then Oscy is a non factor,

536
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: non factor. You don't know who he is. You couldn't.

537
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: He's like, you wouldn't pick him out in a lineup.

538
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: You're like, what what? What? What school is that? It

539
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: obviously starts with a sea he's got it on his vest.

540
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. And that's why I got Cow in

541
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: the twelve spot. But also I have another team in

542
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: the twelve twelve spot, Ralph, because I had to copy

543
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: you once you told me you had two teams in

544
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: the twelve spot. I was like, there's another team that

545
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: deserves to be in the twelveth spot. They don't deserve

546
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: to be in an eleventh spot better than Cow's oscy.

547
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: It is the utah Utes mascot. His name is Swoop.

548
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: It's a bird because utah Ute what I what I

549
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: thought are utah you was was it was a human.

550
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: He was a warrior, he was a fighter. And I'm like,

551
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: or is it a car? Is it that that ute car?

552
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: And so there they are completely confused. They should probably

553
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: be in last spot solely alone because they have a bird.

554
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: But I thought it was like a warrior person. But

555
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: then I when I googled it him like, is it

556
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: a car? What the hell is their mascot? So Utah

557
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: Big fail, Buddy Big tied for twelve in the Judas spot.

558
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: For me, I got both bear mascots. I'm not gonna lie.

559
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm from Wyoming, Um, which I know I'd say all

560
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: of the time if if you were new to the

561
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: Pack twelve Apostles podcast. My name is Ralph Ameson and

562
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: I am from Wyoming. Those that I usually say those

563
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: two things right next to each other. So um, we

564
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: have grizzlies there. Uh and uh it makes me sad

565
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: to see anyone have a grizzly bear mat scots in

566
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: a place where I know that, Um, they actually don't

567
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: have those anymore. Uh so just the Bruins and Cal

568
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: Golden Bears that they're they're just down there at the bottom,

569
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean, regardless of the actual mascots in the suits.

570
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: California had like ten thousand grizzlies at one point in

571
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: the Spanish came made them fight each other to the death.

572
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: Uh and there are none left, which almost seems appropriate,

573
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: just for the way that the pack twelve, um he

574
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: eats itself alive, like the snake eating its tail every

575
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: single year, um until until there is nothing remaining. Um

576
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: So it's almost appropriate. But I yeah, so when I

577
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: when I look at both of those things, I get

578
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: more sad than I do and intimidated, even though U

579
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: c L has done its absolute best to make it's uh,

580
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: it's it's mascot scary. I don't know if you've seen

581
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: some of their social media recently where they had like

582
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: the bear mounting one of their players, uh that they

583
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: tweeted out from their main account. Dude, that was creepy. Dude,

584
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: that was creepy. I was like, I couldn't understand why

585
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: they would do that. The thing that I thought of

586
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: was when I saw it. I thought of that Leonardo

587
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: DiCaprio movie The Revenant where where he got bad things

588
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: done to him by the bear. I was like, oh, player, run, run,

589
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: player run. It was creepy, like they had ominous lighting

590
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: on them. It was on fire, and I was like,

591
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: that's the last thing California needs is another force fire. Dude,

592
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: he would and the bear was looming like impending danger.

593
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: It was all bad. I I know clue By, like

594
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: whoever's in charge of that doing a bad job. But

595
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: I think that you're awful for having U. C. L

596
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: A and the number twelve, um my number ten. I

597
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: have Wilbur and Wilmer, Wilmper and Wilma Wildcat because this

598
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: is not a family operation. I mean, I I know,

599
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: like this is not a family operation. I get we're

600
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: trying to be politically correct all of these things. And

601
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: it's cool to have a female mascot too, if that's

602
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: the thing you choose to do. But at the same time,

603
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: they're non threatening. Wildcats in in and of themselves are small.

604
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: They like they're a nine. Even though they can hurt you.

605
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: You're more likely to be able to do damage to

606
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: a wildcat than a wildcat is able to do damage

607
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: to you, and it's kind in a way. They play

608
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: football right now, So I got the Wildcats at the

609
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: ten spot. My number ten is Swoop, the utah Utes

610
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: red tailed hawk that they've had since nineteen Originally the

611
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: school's mascot was like a member of the Ute tribe,

612
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: which you know, people are not mascots and all that.

613
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: So um and and I mean the whole school nickname

614
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: is strange to me anyway, Like my dad's from the

615
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: northern right Cheyenne Reservation. Um, you know, I got a

616
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: lot of Native American people in my family. I got

617
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of family up on the rest that say

618
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: they're my cousin. And I'm not sure if that's the

619
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: truth or not. Like it's just that, you know, the

620
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: so the whole like, um, it's one thing, the whole, Like,

621
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, people are not mascots or whatever. That I

622
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: definitely ascribed to. Um. But you know, Swoop, you don't

623
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: really think of a hawk when you think of Utah anyway.

624
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: You just think of Utah. You just think of Utes.

625
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: I think when I hear Utah I and I hear you,

626
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: I think of my cousin Vinnie like did you say

627
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: utes um to you to YouTube question exactly? And so

628
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe Marissa Tomay uh when she looked

629
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: pretty good on the side of a football helmet, so um,

630
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: but I don't know, you just never really think of

631
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: a red tailed hawk. The you people are like this

632
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: day mostly in Colorado. You Mountain is in Colorado, you know,

633
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: I mean they lived in Utah, but like also mostly Colorado.

634
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: So the whole the whole thing has just always been

635
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: sort of silly to me. To me, they're just Utah,

636
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: the red team that we you know, play in the UM,

637
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: so that their mascot doesn't really ever even pop into

638
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: my mind. Um, but if they actually put more emphasis

639
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: on it, redtailed hawks pretty badass, So like maybe they

640
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: should push that out there more. I don't know, I

641
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: totally agree with them. Number nine. I got Butch t Cougar,

642
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: Washington State's mascot. He's ranked so low because because his

643
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: outfit is so low quality like his he is not

644
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: a He needs to refresh. He looks like the drunken cougar.

645
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: They need to, you know, spend a little bit of

646
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: money getting a better looking mascot. I I like the

647
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: name cougar. It's menacing. They are excellent creatures, but overall,

648
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: like their mascot, he's sort of recognizable, but he's got

649
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: to have his outfit on for you to be recognizable.

650
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like a a pretty cheap version

651
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: of a of a Washington State uniform. So that's why,

652
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: even though they have a great mascot themselves in a cougar,

653
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: butch t cougar comes in the nine spot for me,

654
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: my number nine is Harry Husky. Um, just because I

655
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: think I think it's kind of pointless. Um, Georgia brings

656
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: an actual bulldog out. Husky is like the most beautiful

657
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: dogs on the plane, and get a dog like you

658
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: don't you don't need Harry the Husky. You don't even

659
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: need it. That's actually a good point. I just think

660
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: that that is a great point. Harry is unnecessary. Um,

661
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: let's let's get rid of him. Let's have Harry one,

662
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: Harry two, Harry three, and just get get a husky

663
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: out there. And they're so like Regal, just an incredible,

664
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: incredible animal. And you know, I don't think we should

665
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: just have animals out there doing party tricks for the

666
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: sake of that. But you don't. You don't have to

667
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: do any you don't even have to train them up.

668
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: Just have him sit on the sideline and make sure

669
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: that he takes a dump on whatever opponents field that

670
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: you're on on any given Saturday or Friday in the

671
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: fact close case. So, um, I just I just don't

672
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: see the I I see a better opportunity, in a

673
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: better way forward for University of Washington. And that's why

674
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: I've got Harry the Husky in my nine spot. Okay,

675
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: that's see, that's reasonable. I didn't even consider that. But

676
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: I like that Ralph number eight that I got Ben Beaver.

677
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: Benny the Beaver Oregon State's mascot because and mind you,

678
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: this is not a bad ranking for me for Oregon

679
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: State only because this is a hard list to make,

680
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: because the Pack twelve mascots are well known and you

681
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: and Benny the Beaver he doesn't get his just due

682
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: because Oregon State is historically and even recently so damn

683
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: bad that he never gets TV time. He doesn't get

684
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: invited to the Capital one commercials, and if he does,

685
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: he's in the background. He doesn't get invited to the

686
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: ESPN commercials because nobody knows who he is nobody cares

687
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: because Oregon states so bad. I feel bad for a

688
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: quality mascot in terms of his costume is really nice,

689
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: like the fur on, it is well done, and he's

690
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: just not getting the recognition that he deserves. At the

691
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: eighth spot. Um, my number eight is Wilbur and will

692
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: a Wildcat. Um when I've got just a very very simple,

693
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: simple reason why. Um, I am from here in Arizona

694
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: and I'm from Wyoming. I always got to throw that

695
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: out there. I'm from Wyoming, but I live in Arizona

696
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: and I've been in Arizona a lot of my life.

697
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: And Wilbur and Wilma, Um, they're just sort of like

698
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: raggedy looking um mascots that they just you just draped

699
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: a cheerleader in football uniform over him, not a lot

700
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: of effort put into it. Definitely looks like a knockoff

701
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: Chuck E. Cheese experienced type thing. And I think that

702
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: overall the Arizona mascot, like nobody ever thinks of the

703
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: Wildcats because what is Arizona most known for basketball? There's

704
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: already a bunch of Wildcats anyway, So just the big

705
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: block a is what people know Arizona for But Wilbur

706
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: and Wilma look like how I feel in the middle

707
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: of the summer, Like me and my wife are out

708
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: running errands, like I just imagine, like catching myself in

709
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: the mirror. I like, I look like just Wilbur just

710
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: like a giant fury mess like because it's so damn

711
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: miserable and scary. Yeah, he looks how we feel, and

712
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: I don't like to be reminded how we and the

713
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: fact that somebody has to wear that when it's like

714
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: a hundred and six hundred seven degrees at kickoff and

715
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: two song. Sometimes it's just like, oh man, let's we'll

716
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: just have like a shaved cat as a mascot or something,

717
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: just just like, don't make somebody suit up. Um so, yeah,

718
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: I've got to. I've got them in my number eight.

719
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: I got Joe Brewing U c l A At number seven.

720
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: He's actually a cool mascot. But I think my my

721
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: fan experience at the games kind of plays into this

722
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: because even though he's recognizable, he is he's all over

723
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: the place because U c l A is a big

724
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: name brand, their games are not so hype. He doesn't

725
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: do cool stuff like some of the other mascots do

726
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: like some of the other mascots had on this list,

727
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: they do cool things like they are high on them,

728
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: high on the National mascot rankings. And and Joe Joe

729
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: Bruin is just not doing it. I mean it is

730
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: he's very tame. He is just you know, he's kind

731
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: of he's kind of there. He tries, but he didn't

732
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: have the charisma that you need to be higher on

733
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: this list. Okay, so my number seven I got. I

734
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: got Butch t Cougar Um who you know, Cougars are

735
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: supposed to be like sleek, and he is anything but that.

736
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: He's got like a giant smiling head that looks like

737
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: an infected thumb. And uh. And I mean, but I

738
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: kind of have a little bit of an affinity for

739
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: for Butch TQ Cougar and just cougars in in general

740
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: is a pretty cool mascot, even though it's kind of

741
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: overdone on the West Coast a little bit. Um, but

742
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: Butch is cool because he reminds me of like, if

743
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: let's just say, like when you think of lions, you know,

744
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: you got your you got your move faces, and then

745
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: you got your scars, and then Butch is like the

746
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: Randy Quaid cousin who comes in his trailer like something's

747
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: wrong with this dude, but he's entertaining. I mean, so, yeah,

748
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: I got Butchet number seven. Yeah, Butch, Butch might be

749
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: like an alcoholic Oh, I got number six. Butch definitely

750
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: has one of those like metal detectors that you find stuff.

751
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's his primary he's the wily coyotes. Ye Oh.

752
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: Number six. I got Sparky for Arizona State. I like Sparky.

753
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of cool, but he's got a

754
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: creepy and menacing to it to say. At the same time,

755
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: he is recognizable. That's why he is so high on

756
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: this list. He is very recognizable. I don't see him

757
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: do a ton of cool stuff because he's more like

758
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: a human, Like he's kind of like a ghost all

759
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: mos he is. He's a pretty cool mascot. If Arizona

760
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: State were better, I think that their mascot would be higher.

761
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: But I'm with herm Edwards on this. I don't I

762
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: don't really like the devils in my name. I don't

763
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: really like the devils in my name. If if Sparky

764
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: weren't associated with devils, he would be higher. Okay, Uh,

765
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: I got you the that's the that's the Herm Edwards

766
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: thing that he said to my boss that Devil's died

767
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: just when he got hired. You watch out them devils.

768
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm Catholic. Um, Benny Beaver comes in at number six

769
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 1: for me. Uh, it's a good mascot. We're talking about

770
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: the two thousand eleven Capital One mascot of the year. Um.

771
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I feel like he's underused. I

772
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: think he should be a little bit more. You know

773
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: that they have the mascots Heather on Twitter accounts or whatever.

774
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: I think he should be like the sassiest of the

775
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: entire pack twelve. He should be like the Wendy's account

776
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: of twelve mascots. You should just capitalize on the weirdness

777
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: and the whole tongue in cheek of like having a

778
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: Beaver as a mascot in today's day and age, Like

779
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: just lean into how weird and funny it is. Uh,

780
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: you have people, That's what That's what she's said. If

781
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: you go a lot of that's what she says you will. Yeah,

782
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: you'll do absolutely and so like I I mean, and

783
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: it feels weird, you know, because obviously the way the

784
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: list is working out that a beaver is going to

785
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: be underneath a tree, especially when the whole thing is,

786
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: you know what beavers due to trees. But I just

787
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: I don't. I think he's underutilized and the potential is

788
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: there to be higher. But I got Vny Beaver at

789
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: number six. For me, I have Traveler at number five.

790
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: I have Traveler, who is usc S he's the horse,

791
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: I believe, or is he the is Traveler the horse

792
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: or is Traveler the man on the horse? I believe

793
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: that he is. Yeah, So so the Trojans Travelers their mascot.

794
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: But the guy on the horse is important too. He's

795
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: like a you know, like a three hundred warrior, but

796
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: in three hundred everybody dies, so so it's a USC

797
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: would have been higher on this list because their bascot

798
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: is well known. He's kind of like the Florida State

799
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: guy that that if and he like they stamped the

800
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: sword in the at the fifty yard line when they play,

801
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: but it's less eventful and there's less you know, it's

802
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: not as cool as when Florida State throws the flaming

803
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: spear down into the fifty yard line that's cooler. Even

804
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: though usc s is traditional and all of that, it

805
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: just you know, it's a small sword. They're stepping in

806
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: the ground, so it doesn't if you're standing in the

807
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: top of the stadium, you and it's your first time,

808
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: you don't know what's happening. So that's why USC ends

809
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: up in Traveler ends up in a five spot. I

810
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: think that if they put that helmet, that the that

811
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: their trojan wears, if they just put that on the horse, like,

812
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: and you don't even need the guy, and I'll I'll

813
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: follow up. I'll put Traveler at number five for me,

814
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: just because it's it's just sort of a symbol. You

815
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: might as well have a statue and you'd almost be better,

816
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: is it if you if you just had a if

817
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: you just had the statue out there, um out at

818
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: the Colosseum. Uh, it's a pretty cool thing. I mean,

819
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: especially to see in in l A. Like the theatrics

820
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: of it um are are pretty great. Uh. I mean

821
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 1: if I was a kid and I saw a horse

822
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: at a football game, Holy hell, Like I'd fall in

823
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: love that. That's fantastic. Um. Yeah, But I mean I

824
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't really have anything too bad to

825
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: say about it. I don't really have any criticisms at

826
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: the same time, like, it's not it's the design of

827
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: the mascot is supposed to be for them, just a symbol.

828
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: There's not really anything more to it. It's not playful

829
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: or fun. It's regal, right, So like, um, if your

830
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: team is not respectable, then your mascot maybe commands less respect.

831
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: So it's like the how seriously you take Traveler as

832
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: a mascot depends on how well usc is doing at

833
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: the time. I totally agree with that. I totally agree

834
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: with that. My number four team actually switched it midstream

835
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: because of your argument. I had this team at number

836
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: I had this guy at number three. Now he's moved

837
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: down to number four. I got Harry the Husky down

838
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 1: at number four. Now I'm moved them from the three

839
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: spots simply because Ralph, you convinced me that they should

840
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: have an act shoal husky as their mascot. Yes, having

841
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: the guy in the costume would still be important, but

842
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you need a an

843
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: actual husky because guess what, even when it's cold outside,

844
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: when you're playing a game in the snow or bad weather,

845
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: he can still be out there because he's a Husky dog.

846
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: I like it. I think that people would actually recognize

847
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: their mascot because I feel like Washington, Uh, Washington and

848
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: they and and and probably I don't know, I would

849
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: say callin U C. L Aer up there and Utah

850
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: that people just don't even really think of the mascots

851
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: all that often, that the team is the team Huskies

852
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: aren't purple and gold like it's just you know. I

853
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: think it would actually make people think of because you know,

854
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: a bulldogs, not red like at Georgia or whatever. So

855
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: but I think of the bulldogs all the time with

856
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: them because they have Uga and so I just think

857
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: that I don't know, I think it'd be a cool

858
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: opportunity for them. Do you actually think of them as

859
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: the Huskies? And I never do. They're just washing them

860
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: To me, I totally agree. Number three the mascot I

861
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: hate the most. I hate this mascot because I think

862
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: it's stupid. I think that I think that it should

863
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: be way way more creative. I don't like it. It

864
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: is the Stanford Tree, the Cardinal Stanford Cardinal. Yeah, the

865
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: Stanford Tree, and like it is raggedy it has I mean,

866
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel Stanford like. It's not buttoned up, it's

867
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: not smart. It's so wild though that you're like, well,

868
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: it kind of kind of kind of fits in Stanford,

869
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: Like this is who Stanford is. They have a wild band.

870
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: They let you play in the band, whether you're eight

871
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: or eighty, let you wear whatever you want. They they're

872
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: weird old people who who get who collect Disney pins.

873
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 1: They have pins all over him. I can't make sense. Bit. However,

874
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: it's so bad that it and it's so wreck but

875
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: it's so recognizable that you that it's an institution at

876
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: this point. It's so it's it's almost like like when

877
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: you like when you have a tradition. USC has a

878
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: tradition with their stamping, the the sword in the ground,

879
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: pomp and circumstances arounding it, and Stanford's is just, hey,

880
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: look we're goofy and it's been so bad, but it's

881
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: yet so good. Yeah. Yeah, and I and I have

882
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: to jump in because I didn't, uh, I didn't give

883
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: my number four. But I can piggyback off of you

884
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: and say that Stanford's tree is my number four. I

885
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: don't really have anything negative to say about it, because

886
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: it reminds me of the movie The Mask, where that's

887
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: just sort of the altered ego of the uptight person.

888
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: And I think that it's you know, I think that

889
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 1: it's funny. I think that that when the mascot gets

890
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: involved in little controversies, it's funny. Um. I think the

891
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: fact that you think about that stupid mascot when you

892
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: go to play at their stadium is funny. I respect

893
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: that they went this route because like they were the Indians, right,

894
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: so like in early nineteen seventies they got rid of that,

895
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: which is way way ahead of its time. Um. So

896
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: you know, I respect that. I think that I think

897
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: that it's fun um. And I think the fact that

898
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: it looks like just a bunch of felt glued to

899
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: to a guy in green tights. Um. I think that

900
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: the just the irony of it is what makes it

901
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: for me. It's like, that's that's where Stanford students can

902
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: let loose. Like you have all these expectations, you have

903
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: all of all of this stuff on your shoulders to

904
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: go forward, to be good citizens, to help change the

905
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: world for better or for worse. Um. But deep down

906
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: inside you you've got this goofy, felt covered, wiggling, annoying

907
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: thing that just needs to be let out, and so

908
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: I think it's perfect, perfect mascot for them. Well, the

909
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: other thing about the Stanford tree is this is that

910
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: it's never looks exactly the same. They have like five

911
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: different trees that they use each season, and none of

912
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: them look alike. It's just got a smiley face. Sometimes

913
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: they have uh two teeth, gap teeth, a full set

914
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: of teeth, Steve Harvey teeth, they have baby teeth. This thing.

915
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: They just put anything on it, and it is. And

916
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: you clearly see regular human legs in regular human shoes,

917
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: and it is. And sometimes they even let them go

918
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 1: with legs out like shorts, and you see pasty legs

919
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: or brown legs, and you're like, what, what the hell

920
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: is going on here? Well, what the hell is going on?

921
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: I'll jump in. I'll give you my number three as well,

922
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: so that we're caught up. Um. But for me, my

923
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: number three is the Oregon duck. What could easily be

924
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: number one, could easily be number one. Is a fantast

925
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: aastic mascot. There's nothing really scary about a duck or

926
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: anything like that. Uh So the idea that the duck

927
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: is um and also like ducks are slow and Oregon

928
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: is known for being super fast. So I just love that,

929
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: like that's the best thing in the world to me. Um,

930
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, it would be like it would be like

931
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: if Alabama, instead of having an elephant for a mascot,

932
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: had like a stick bug or something like. It just

933
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: just that dichotomy, like to me that that's pretty funny. Um.

934
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: They were obviously around before the Anaheim Mighty Ducks, even

935
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: though you know they got some of their their thunder stolen. Uh.

936
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: There that people who aren't necessarily college football fans probably

937
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: when you think ducks, um, you think hockey and the

938
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: flying v um and the mascot is just absolutely fantastic.

939
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: But but I have a couple of complaints. It's a

940
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: little too a little too close to Donald sometimes for

941
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: my liking. They just did from I get it. I

942
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: get that, especially govern as on the state I know,

943
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: I know, uh, you know them's the brakes or whatever.

944
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 1: I think it's time for a redesign. I think it's

945
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: time to make the duck look sleeker, faster, meaner, um

946
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: and then keep that same energy, that same attitude. So

947
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: the only reason I have it at number three is

948
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: I think that it's just sort of a little bit

949
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: out of date with how far or because Oregon has

950
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: just moved ahead, ahead, ahead ahead in the way that

951
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: they present themselves on the field, in the way that

952
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: they play. Everything about Oregon is changing, it's progressing, moving

953
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: into the future. Um, but the mascot is is sort

954
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: of just like left behind. Is this sort of little

955
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: Twitter troll um? And I don't know. I just I

956
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: think it's time. I think it's time to put as

957
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: much care because if if Oregon students and alumni are

958
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: willing to accept Oregon walking out onto the field in

959
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: clear uniforms, you know, or whatever else it is that

960
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: they want to do next week, you got license to

961
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: make changes, so like, have some fun with it. I

962
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: just that I just think that it's gotten a god Ralph.

963
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: They tried that. They tried the robo duck. It failed.

964
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: It was awful. It was an unmitigated disaster. It was terrible.

965
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: And the Oregon duck, how dare you put him at

966
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: number three? That is that he's the most recognizable mascot

967
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: in the entire country, even more than the bulldog. He's

968
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: the best mascot in the country, so surprise, surprise. Number

969
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: one for me is the Oregon Ducks. But we're not

970
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: even on that number yet. How are you going to

971
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: have like a swan in your mascot when your school

972
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: colors are not a damn swan it is It is

973
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: the Oregon duck who used to be named Puddles. He's

974
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: the Oregon Duck. He's special, he's funny, he makes sp

975
00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: A commercials, he is everywhere. He he's in music video. Ohs,

976
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: he's the Oregon damn duck man like you cannot put

977
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: him anywhere button number one. He's the most famous mascot

978
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: there is. But it would be weird to me if

979
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: the Washington State Cougars had like a panda for their

980
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: mascot instead of a cougar. You are green and golden.

981
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: You should have a mallard. It should have a green head.

982
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: It's a mallard. Do you realize how creepy that would

983
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: look with a green hat. That's what the duck looks

984
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: like in real life. Oh my god, Ralph, are you

985
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: kidding me? This is this is asinine even by your standards. Dude,

986
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: I can't even believe that you would that you want

987
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: to change this institution. Changed it a white duck at

988
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 1: a green school, when the green duck is the most

989
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: famous duck. Just he wears green clothes and has orange legs.

990
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: We've seen ducks that look exactly like the Oregon duck.

991
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: There are ducks in the pond that look exactly like

992
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: the Oregon duck. And it's not a damned swan, it's

993
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: a duck. It's damn ralph oh So number two other

994
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: power rankings is Ralphie the Buffalo. Ralphie the Buffalo, and

995
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: because he is the mascot for Colorado, you have to

996
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: run him out there. He is dangerous. We saw what

997
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: happened when when Texas played Georgia in the I think

998
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: it's a sugar bowl there there. Uh, their longhorn almost

999
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: tried to kill the dog. And that's what Colorado's buffalo

1000
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: has gotten loose a couple of times, like people are

1001
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: falling down because they have to have chains and all

1002
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: that stuff carrying them around. That's why they can't be

1003
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: number one A because Oregon is number number one in

1004
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: the mascot rankings. And it's clear and it's easy aside

1005
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: from people like ralph but it but the But the

1006
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: only thing I don't like about Ralphie is that he

1007
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: can't do anything all by himself. He can't be left alone.

1008
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: He always needs a supervisor and and and Peter is

1009
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: gonna get you if you don't do the right things.

1010
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: By by Ralphie, he's probably treated better than the He's

1011
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: probably paid for his name, image and likeness. Unlike the players,

1012
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: it's it's a quality mascot quality theme. You run them out.

1013
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, so there's nothing to say except Ralphie's dope.

1014
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: He's just in the number two spot. Ralph my number two.

1015
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: I got Sparky. Uh what? Oh my? You have Sparky

1016
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: behind the damned dunk, I mean in front of the dun. Yeah.

1017
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: You you are trying to kiss the Arizona States people's ass.

1018
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: No I'm not, because yes you are, because because their

1019
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: magic you right now for having him into power rankings.

1020
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: Oh and you're and you're trying to kiss ass right now.

1021
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm not. I think that Sparky has got a fantastic

1022
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: story that it's supposed to be like a caricature of

1023
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: Walt Disney, Like somebody was making fun of Walt Disney

1024
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: when they designed this mascot. So I love the history

1025
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: of it. Um. One of my favorite things about Sparky

1026
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: is that for the longest time and now only in

1027
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: alternate situations, but in my opinion, they should bring it

1028
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: back and make it permanent. Is he's on the damn uniform. Like,

1029
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: that's a huge part of it to me, is it's

1030
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: part of the team. Sparky was on the helmet, Sparky

1031
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: was on the jerseys, like the mascot was part of

1032
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: what was going on there. Everybody like it's one of

1033
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,479
Speaker 1: the most unique nicknames in in sun Devils. I don't

1034
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what a sun devil is, but everybody

1035
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: recognizes Sparky with the pitchfork and with the with the

1036
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty speakeasy mustache. Um, it's a fun it's fun.

1037
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: It's just fun. Just like Oregons is always fun and

1038
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: always good, Arizona State's mascot is always fun and always good.

1039
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: The only reason that I have it ranked higher, the

1040
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: only reason is that it's got such a rich history

1041
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: of being like part of If you think about Arizona

1042
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: State's best seasons, it happened with Sparky on the helmet.

1043
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,959
Speaker 1: When you think of Jake Plumber, you think of sparky

1044
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: on his helmet like that, No, you don't. Nobody thinks

1045
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: the sparking on his helmet except for people in Arizona.

1046
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: Come on now, But I I think that just being

1047
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: being more part of it, because you could be Oregon

1048
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: and just have that silver oh, and everybody knows what

1049
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: that is. You should put Arizona State's pitchfork out there,

1050
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: and people are like, is that san Diego State? So

1051
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: like the just Sparky in Arizona State are so intertwined.

1052
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: Um that I I to me that puts it above

1053
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: and you think I'm wrong, And that's fine, Oh, Ralph,

1054
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: stop it. Um. We we already said. I don't even

1055
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: need to go into it anymore. The Oregon Duck is

1056
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: the best mascot in the back twelve. It won't win

1057
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: in a fight. It will do what Mike Leach said,

1058
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: be smart. A fight breaks out and you fly off

1059
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: and then come and come back and sprinkle some and

1060
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: it's only one person standing and they beat each other

1061
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: to hell, and then you come just sit on top

1062
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: of him and then you get a one to three

1063
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: count from the referee and you win the fight. It's

1064
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: old wrestling moves, dude, and the duck is smart enough

1065
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: to do that. Okay, I mean we'll see what would

1066
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: happen if a duck got in the cage with Ralphie.

1067
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: But that's my number one. I got University of Colorado

1068
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: um AS as my number one. Ralphie. First of all,

1069
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: great name, great name, Love the name. I love that

1070
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: it's a buffalo because I don't know if you know this, George,

1071
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: but I'm from Wyoming. We've got a buffalo on our

1072
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: state flag. Uh. And I love the running of the

1073
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: buffalo before the game. Everybody loves that. It's probably the

1074
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: best part about going to a game in Boulder. And uh,

1075
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: not a lot of people know this, but Ralphie is

1076
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: a girl. So score one for the ladies. Oh wow,

1077
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: I did not know that. I did not know know that.

1078
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: But you guys, make sure you guys send us in

1079
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: your mascot power rankings that I'm mad at Unafraid show

1080
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: dot com. Tell us where we got it right, tell

1081
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: us where we got it wrong. But now, ralph it

1082
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: is time for us to get into the damn games man.

1083
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: We have We've belabored the point enough, we've gone in

1084
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: on everything. Now we can go through the games. We

1085
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: already briefly hit on the Friday night game Utah and

1086
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: to pretend Utah heading out to USC on a game

1087
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: most people won't see live and they will just see

1088
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: what's going on. And in two games, Keaton Slova's Utah's quarters,

1089
01:05:54,720 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean USC's now quarterback fifty eight seventy's, five touchdowns,

1090
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: a few picks will USC unleashed a kid Utah's favorite

1091
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: by three and a half points, ralph favorite by three

1092
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: and a half points. Who do you have in this game? Man?

1093
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: I said before the season the USC would get this game,

1094
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: And now I've seen with my eyes what these two

1095
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: teams are. And I'm stuck between a rock and a

1096
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: hard place of either changing with the information that I

1097
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: now have or going with my gut, which is that

1098
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: USC was gonna win the Pack twelve South and that

1099
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: the difference was going to be this game. Everything for

1100
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 1: my prediction hinges on this game. Everything. Um, if I'm

1101
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: gonna be wrong, I'm gonna be wrong all the way.

1102
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm going against my gut and I'm going against my

1103
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: head to say that the home team will win this game,

1104
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: and that the only really thing that I have going

1105
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: on to support me on this is you Utah's struggles

1106
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: playing at the Colosseum Um. But then again, I don't

1107
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: believe that the moment will be too big for them. Um,

1108
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm really really going against my gut and my head

1109
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: when I say that USC will win this game. See Ralph, Ralph,

1110
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: I love the Wait wait you're sticking with USC season.

1111
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: I said that USC was gonna win the Pact twelve South,

1112
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: and I said that they would win the PacTel South

1113
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: with a worse overall record than Utah because they won

1114
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: this game. So like, what am I gonna do? And going?

1115
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: What am I gonna based on what I've seen? Should I? Yes?

1116
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: Should I? Yes? Am I going to know? I gotta

1117
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: stick with my original assessment of believing that USC is

1118
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: eight and four team Utah's and I the three team.

1119
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: But ultimately, the division comes down to this game and

1120
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: that USC was gonna win this game, and and that

1121
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: was the I got a ride with it, and I'm

1122
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: recognizing as we go into the moment, Ralph, don't, Ralph,

1123
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: you are too old to be doubling down on bad decisions.

1124
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: If you believe it's a bad decision, get out cut bait,

1125
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: know when to hold him, know when to fold him. Ralph,

1126
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: But I see this game as twofold. What is USC

1127
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: bad at? They're bad at. They're bad on the offensive line,

1128
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: is particularly at center. Who got whooped against b y

1129
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: u Oh, that's my boy, Brett Neelin. He's he's a

1130
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: smaller guy. It's fantastic technique, but he's not gonna be

1131
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: able to handle somebody who's who And Utah is going

1132
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: to be bringing that same stuff, and Lecky Photo is

1133
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a tough time being being blocked. So USC's

1134
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: bad upfront and they're bad in the secondary. So they're well,

1135
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: they're up front on the offensive line, so Utah has

1136
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: the advantage because they got laky Poetwo and a bunch

1137
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: of other guys on defense who are going to get

1138
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: after the pass rush, get after the quarterback, stay in

1139
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: the lanes. USC is probably gonna have a tough time

1140
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 1: running the football as well here and um but Utah,

1141
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: who is good in the secondary, has to match up

1142
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: with Tyler Vons, I'm hourra st Brown and Pittman. And

1143
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: if they let Slovis loose like they did his first

1144
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: game at home and not try to protect him like

1145
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: they did against Utah. They will win this game. And

1146
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: then the other part that USC is bad. At Utah

1147
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: is bad. At Utah does not have a dominant passing

1148
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: game and USC is not very good in the secondary

1149
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: right now. So I look at that and I say,

1150
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 1: the winner of this game will be Tyler Huntley, Utah's

1151
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: quarterback versus the and their wide receivers versus the USC secondary.

1152
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 1: I said it before that he's gonna need to come

1153
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: up big and at least three to four games this year.

1154
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley's can't be a game manager. He's gonna have

1155
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: to be the game savior. And this is one of

1156
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: those games. And I don't believe in Tyler Huntley yet.

1157
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:32,839
Speaker 1: So I'm going with you SC in this game because

1158
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: this is going to be the game that determines Clay

1159
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: Helton's future. If Clay Helton wins this game, he may

1160
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: make it until next year. If they lose it, because

1161
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna get more momentum, team is gonna be excited,

1162
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: then they're gonna win. It. Rattled off a bunch of games.

1163
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: If they lose this game, you can you might as

1164
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:58,520
Speaker 1: well start packing Clay Hilton's bags whatever whatever car dealership

1165
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: he has a free car with, think it's Mercedes. With USC,

1166
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna start be starting the paperwork of getting to

1167
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: turn back in, make sure he didn't over exceed his miles,

1168
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: all of that. That's what's going to happen. That's how

1169
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: much is writing on this game. Bro. Yeah, I mean

1170
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm looking forward to being wrong

1171
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: so I can just be free from all of my

1172
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:24,560
Speaker 1: preseason predictions for the rest of the season. Oh that's funny,

1173
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: that's funny. So I got USC in this game. Um,

1174
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: you got USC in this game, except for we have

1175
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: them for totally different reasons. You actually believe Utah is

1176
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: gonna win. I believe USC is gonna win. And if

1177
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: Utah wins this game, I will finally come over to

1178
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: believing in Utah. I will I'll believe in time. I'll

1179
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 1: stop knocking Tyler Huntley. I'll stop knocking their offensive passing

1180
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: game and say that Zack Moss is enough, and say

1181
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: that Tyler Huntley is enough and actually believe in this team.

1182
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: The next came up, we got Oregon and we got Stanford.

1183
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: This is a game that everybody pointed to Oregon is

1184
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: gonna lose this game. They're going to the farm, They're

1185
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 1: going on the road. Well, Oregon is now favored by

1186
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: ten points. Stanford got boat raced by USC then they

1187
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: got their head knocked in by UCF, and the same

1188
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 1: thing is gonna happen by Oregon. This is a This

1189
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: is a easy line at ten points. Stanford is gonna

1190
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: be more competitive at home, but they're but Oregon's defense

1191
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: is too real this year. They are going to shut

1192
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: them down. And Stanford is slow this year. They are slow,

1193
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: slow team, and there's no way that this turns out

1194
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: good for them. This is a road game. Uh, this

1195
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: is a defense that is very very used to playing

1196
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 1: against Oregon, that has seen justin Herbert a few times. Um.

1197
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: And and I think you're gonna be able to scheme

1198
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: away some of your deficiencies, not all, but some. So

1199
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: I think that where whereas somebody would look at that

1200
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: line of ten and say, oh my god, that's delicious,

1201
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: Like of course I would bet Oregon on that. With

1202
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: Stanford getting blown out two weeks in a row, um,

1203
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: and then having to take on a team that has

1204
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: looked like a complete football team the last two weeks,

1205
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: of course I would take that. But there's a reason

1206
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: that line is where it is. There's a reason that

1207
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 1: it's fishy, and that's because people know that when you

1208
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: get into these rivalry games, you get into one of

1209
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: the only four times that that that Oregon is playing

1210
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: outside of outs and in conference this year, that it

1211
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: can be a little bit dicey. And so I think

1212
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: I fully plan on you being frustrated for about three quarters.

1213
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: I think this game will be a little bit closer,

1214
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 1: um than you're comfortable with, and ultimately they come out

1215
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 1: with the win. Wait, so you so you think Oregon

1216
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: ends up. Yeah, I think that this is like a

1217
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty game, but it's not. It's not

1218
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty until later. You know. I think

1219
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 1: that I I think that I expect that Oregon should

1220
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: be able to come out and be dominant against a

1221
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: team like Stanford. But we're in conference play now, and

1222
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: Oregon's on the road, and so, um, you know, we've

1223
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: seen Oregon trip up on the road in very recent history.

1224
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: If you remember, of course, you remember what happened against

1225
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: Arizona last year. So, um, I think that you're outside

1226
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: of the protection of Buston Stadium. You're against a team that,

1227
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: while they don't share your skill level, they know you

1228
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,919
Speaker 1: almost as well as you know yourself. Um and Herbert

1229
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: has yet to elevate in those big moments. Um And

1230
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: so I think it will be a close game. But yeah,

1231
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: Oregon definitely wins this game. I totally agree with you,

1232
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: Ralph that that Oregon has to prove themselves on the road.

1233
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 1: They have not been a good road team the last

1234
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: couple of years. Actually, they've been terrible on the road.

1235
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: It's terrible on the road. Just just just guaranteed wins.

1236
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, and just and haven't showed up. They didn't

1237
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 1: show up against Arizona. They didn't show up against Washington

1238
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: State last year. I mean, just got demolished by both

1239
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: teams in Arizona's defense was atrocious last year, atrocious this

1240
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: year except for last week. And yeah, this is a

1241
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: game that Oregon needs to win to say all right,

1242
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: look look guys, we're we're back in control of this

1243
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: thing settled down. Um you got U c l A.

1244
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: At Washington State. Uh U c l A's defense was

1245
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: giving up like twelve yards of play to Oklahoma, who

1246
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:46,440
Speaker 1: runs a version of the air raid as well. Washington's

1247
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: favored by eighteen and a half points. We so we

1248
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: know that you U c l a Is only gonna

1249
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: score fourteen points because they did it the last three weeks.

1250
01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: So assuming that they get fourteen points, that means that

1251
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 1: that Washington State then needs what thirty two points to cover, sorry,

1252
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: thirty three points to cover and Watchington State's not getting

1253
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,480
Speaker 1: held by this defense under at home under thirty three points.

1254
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: So this is an easy cover for Washington State and

1255
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: U c l A. I mean, they're they're gonna be

1256
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: starting oh and four unless this is like a cow

1257
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: game last year where they show up and win thirty

1258
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: seven to seven, and it's like angels in the outfield.

1259
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: This is there's no chance they win. I mean, Dorian

1260
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson has been bad Washington's defense. They like to

1261
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: move and shift and disguise things. He probably throws a

1262
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 1: couple of picks, they get a lot of sacks, so

1263
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: and he fumbles the ball a lot. This is probably

1264
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: another four turnover game for Dorian Thompson Robinson. I don't

1265
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: know if they're gonna be able to run the ball.

1266
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: They've been relying on Felton as they're running back and

1267
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: he's there leading wide receiver and running back. This is

1268
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: just not a good situation. I don't even know what

1269
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: else to say about about this. Hopefully, uh Anthony Gordon,

1270
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: Washington States quarterback he continues his magical run nine for

1271
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: yards twelve touchdowns through through three games. What what do

1272
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 1: you got it? There's a very simple recipe to beating

1273
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: Washington State, and that's keeping their offense off the field.

1274
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: But U c l A Is going out there and

1275
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: putting other offenses on the field by repeatedly turning the

1276
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: ball over. This is a recipe for absolute disaster. I

1277
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,560
Speaker 1: don't know the last time when U c l A

1278
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: was twenty point dog in back to back weeks. This

1279
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: is an embarrassment of a season. They are the far

1280
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: inferior team and they have to go out and play

1281
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: on the road. The most encouraging thing for u c

1282
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: l A fans it would be if they just showed

1283
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 1: some fight, Like, show some damn fight please. Um. But yeah, no,

1284
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: they're not winning this game, not at all, not not

1285
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: even close. Will Washington State cover? Um? Yeah, yeah, I

1286
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,520
Speaker 1: think they will. And I think that Mike leach Um,

1287
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: for as weird as he's been with the media, this week.

1288
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: I think that he's probably locked in, and I think

1289
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 1: that they'll probably they'll they'll put the pedal to the floor,

1290
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: and I expect this to be a thirty point win.

1291
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you there. Um, we got Cal

1292
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: at Old Miss Old Mrs. Favorite by two and a

1293
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: half points. Two years ago. Cal won this game twenty

1294
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: six to seventeen. This is an important game for the

1295
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: Pack twelve. Cal needs to win this game. Can't be

1296
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: losing to an SEC West team that is not going

1297
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:48,839
Speaker 1: to be competitive in the SEC West. Um. Yeah, Cal's

1298
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: defense is smothering. They are smothering and and if you're

1299
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: looking at Matt Carroll, who's the quarterback at Old Miss,

1300
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: it's off to a kind of okay start, completing like

1301
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: his passes. You know, they haven't shown the ability in

1302
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: Old Miss and ability to run the ball so successfully.

1303
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: They already lost to Memphis. So this is a game

1304
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: that Cal has to win. But it is going to

1305
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 1: look much like the Washington game only because they can't score.

1306
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: But this is a game where their defense could put

1307
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: up a touchdown or two and Cal could win by

1308
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Yeah, it's it's time to reveal some character.

1309
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean Matt Coral was a very highly ranked recruit.

1310
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 1: There's one point when I thought he was gonna be

1311
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 1: USC Trojan. There's another point when I thought he was

1312
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a Florida Gator. Um, he's a very highly

1313
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: ranked recruit. Um. Who Uh, this is a big moment

1314
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: for him. He's got a lot to prove here in

1315
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: front of the home crowd. I think that this place

1316
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: is going to be absolutely rocking and that will reveal

1317
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: something because that the that element was taken out of

1318
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: that Cal Washington game right Like it was still a

1319
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: little bit loud, but you know, you didn't have a

1320
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: full stadium the way you would have had that game

1321
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: kicked off on time. So I mean this is this

1322
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: is gonna be a pretty intense game. Is gonna kick

1323
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: off at nine a m r. Time. School be ready

1324
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 1: for some football early in the morning. Um, you're gonna

1325
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: have some familiarity with Cal because I think on old

1326
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 1: Mrs Staff is rich rod. Um. I believe, uh he's

1327
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: out there so um, you know, I I don't know

1328
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: how often he got to coach against Wilcox, but I

1329
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: know that I know that it won't just be a

1330
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: blank slate um for old Miss, I think that you

1331
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 1: you just have to go out and make sure that

1332
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: even if the first quarter doesn't go your way, that

1333
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 1: you're able to settle yourself down um and just find

1334
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: a way to scrap and and win ugly. UM. I

1335
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: don't I don't like cal too um to win this game.

1336
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: We know you don't like in this game on the

1337
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: road in in the sec um. I think that I

1338
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: just I think that that offense is good enough for

1339
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: playing at home or close to home to eat things out.

1340
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that it's good in a couple of

1341
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: time zones over um, and so I I like old

1342
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: miss to squeak this one out. Uh. Oh, Ralph, you're

1343
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: you're you're you're doing a bad job today, dude. They

1344
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: just went up to Seattle and won. They went up

1345
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: to Seattle and one man um. Speaking of Seattle, we

1346
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: got Washington versus b y U, Washington's favorite by six

1347
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: and a half points. If b Yu wins this game,

1348
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: they beat USC and beat Washington. This is scary for

1349
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: the potential for the future for the Pack twelve because

1350
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: b y U is on everybody's schedule and they will

1351
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: just destroy the back twelves. Playoff chances as a as

1352
01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 1: a tiny as a test a tiny Klloni Tataki will

1353
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: have his team like Notre Dame in the College Football

1354
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: Playoff conversation if they are tending oh eleven and oh

1355
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: twelve and oh and it will be on the backs

1356
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: of the back twelve if that does happen in the

1357
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: future going forward, This is a statement game for the conference.

1358
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: You cannot lose on national TV twice in back to

1359
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: back weeks to be y U USC and then Washington

1360
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: your most recognizable program, and then what people, and then

1361
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: your Rose Bowl team from last year. How about no

1362
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: Um Salmamed. He's gonna need to be a workhorse in

1363
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: this Uh, They're gonna have to kind of pick and

1364
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: choose the spots that they use. Sean mcgrou speed jacob

1365
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 1: Eeson is gonna have to be on in order to

1366
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: win this game. I think that they will win this game.

1367
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 1: I don't think that the same restrictions that USC put

1368
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: on Keaton Slovis are gonna be there for jacob Eeson.

1369
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna take deep shots for really

1370
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: and often, and I think that this offensive line is

1371
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: a little bit better equipped to handle what's going on

1372
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 1: with b y u S defensive line. I think that

1373
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 1: the other thing that Washington is better at than USC

1374
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: is playing defense, and so, um, you know, this is

1375
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 1: a This is a poised b y U team that

1376
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: is going to have an absolutely insane home crowd. This

1377
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: game on TV is gonna be awesome. The only thing

1378
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: better would be actually being in provo. But I think

1379
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,560
Speaker 1: that that crowd is going to be quiet at the

1380
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: end of the day because you know, Jacob Eeson, who

1381
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 1: hasn't played his best yet in my opinion, is still

1382
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: completing seventy of his passes and has only turned the

1383
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: ball over one time. So if he can I mean,

1384
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: if he can just even keep that same efficiency, he

1385
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 1: doesn't have to play his absolute best and they can

1386
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: get anything out of the running game. I think they're

1387
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: going to be in a better position than USC was

1388
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: last week, and they're gonna get this win. I'm I'm

1389
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: expecting UH ten to fourteen point win. Yeah, and the

1390
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: last game we got up, I totally agree with your

1391
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: whole assessment there, Ralph. The last thing we got up

1392
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: is Colorado at your the your two favorite mascots, apparently

1393
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: Ralphie versus Sparky and Colorado. Ralph Ralphie versus sparks every

1394
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 1: time I tweet about Coil Tate and the Arizona State.

1395
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: Arizona State's favorite of this game by seven and a

1396
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: half points. Are you kidding me? This is the most

1397
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: ridiculous line of the weekend, Ralph, Stephen monte This is

1398
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: not Michigan State. They are not gonna hold Colorado to

1399
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: zero points until the end of the game. Washington's Oh

1400
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: my god, Colorado will absolutely win this game. I don't

1401
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 1: need no damn points. Straight up. I got Colorado man.

1402
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: Arizona State. They got it was a miracle. They made

1403
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 1: out of East Lansing with a victory. They get the

1404
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: privilege of playing at home. But I think Colorado is

1405
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,759
Speaker 1: upset for the way that they played against Air Force.

1406
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,440
Speaker 1: Meil Tucker is gonna have his team ready. Stephen Montez

1407
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 1: and and the Laviska Chana are mad they're being overlooked.

1408
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: They feel like they should be three and oh, I

1409
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: just can't see a situation where how bad Arizona State

1410
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: is having trouble protecting Jayden Daniels and creating running lanes

1411
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: for Eno Benjamin with their opposite line. We've talked about

1412
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: how they put the center over at their starting center

1413
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: or left tackle, then they moved them back, put a

1414
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: freshman net left tackle, and and they've been shuffling guys around.

1415
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: There is unless Colorado turns the ball over, which Stephen

1416
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: Montez has done a good job of not throwing interceptions

1417
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: and fumbling this year. Colorado absolutely wins this game, There's

1418
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: no question, and then we will have an other We

1419
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: will have one less ranked back twelve team after this week. Yeah.

1420
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 1: I mean you say that the Colorado is not going

1421
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: to go late into this game having not scored, but

1422
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean they had zero points at halftime against Nebraska

1423
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: and ten against air Force. Both of those games were

1424
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 1: at home, George. They have gotten off to the absolute

1425
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 1: slowest starts imaginable, and eventually that's going to get you

1426
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: in trouble. It did get them in trouble last week

1427
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: when they didn't have the balls to go out there

1428
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: and go for two. And so I mean, had they

1429
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: beat air Force, had they gone for two and be

1430
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: air Force, I think I'd feel better about their momentum

1431
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: coming in. But I gotta tell you, man, this game

1432
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: is I don't I don't think you realize how important

1433
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: this game is to Arizona States Defense because they last

1434
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: year and they really felt like they should have won

1435
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: that game. It came down to Labisca Chenal burning Chase

1436
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: Lucas twice. I interviewed Chase Lucas about this and he said, like, look,

1437
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: that dude's my friend, but he's been on my line

1438
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 1: and so like this is this is enormous for Arizona

1439
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 1: States Defense. This is a game that they're going to

1440
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 1: take more seriously than they've taken the previous three games,

1441
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: of which they've only given up seven points in each.

1442
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: It's the first time that they're actually able to play

1443
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: in front of a home crowd of Saturday this year,

1444
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: so some fans might actually show up, which is gonna

1445
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: be really helpful for them. Jaden Daniels is coming off

1446
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,919
Speaker 1: the drive that might be the start of his legacy

1447
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: out here. And while they have problems on the offensive line,

1448
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 1: there are things that you can do to cover up

1449
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: for that. When you showed that, you know, Colorado can't

1450
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: stop the run. You know, Benjamin got his start as

1451
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: a as a as a freshman um back two years

1452
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: ago tearing up Colorado, and so you know, I don't

1453
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: think you need the best offensive line in the world

1454
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 1: to run the ball, uh, and I think that they

1455
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: will do plenty of that. The line is weird to

1456
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: me because seven and a half points assumes that even

1457
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 1: if a s U only gives up seven, that they're

1458
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: going to score or fift team. Um. I don't know

1459
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 1: if I have the confidence in this team too, but

1460
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: I do think that Arizona State can move the ball

1461
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: enough to feel goal Colorado to death. Even if they

1462
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: kick six field goals in this game, I think it'll

1463
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: be enough to be Colorado. So UM, I do believe

1464
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: that it will be close. I don't think that Arizona

1465
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 1: State has skill on offense to do anything resembling blowing

1466
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 1: a team out, But Arizona States different than Nebraska in

1467
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: that if they get a three or a seven point lead,

1468
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: they're going to choke you out. And I don't think that.

1469
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 1: Even even as much as I love Stephen Montes and

1470
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,440
Speaker 1: his experience in the way that they sort of scheme offensively,

1471
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: Colorado is the perfect offense for Arizona State's defense because

1472
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: Arizona State's gotta bend and don't break defense and Colorado

1473
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: games or choose up yards and doesn't always get the payoffs,

1474
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: and so I think that everything in this game to

1475
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: me is trending Arizona State. If Steven Montes can get

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Speaker 1: this done, I already like him, but I'll be starting.

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Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be ready and willing to start bringing

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Speaker 1: up his name in in some postseason award conversation, because

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Speaker 1: then called Colorado will really control their own destiny in

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Speaker 1: the conference. And they can if they can go out

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Speaker 1: and they can be there Arizona State and have a

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Speaker 1: win over Nebraska and say that. You know, the Air

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Speaker 1: Force game was an anonymally with a with a gimmick offense,

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Speaker 1: and you see all the way that all these other

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve teams are sort of down outside of Utah.

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Speaker 1: Then that Utah game becomes the important one. And there's

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Speaker 1: so much on Stephen Montez's shoulders. This is a huge

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Speaker 1: game for I'm really I like this Colorado offense. I

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Speaker 1: like him at quarterback, big dude out of El Paso, Texas.

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Speaker 1: I want to see him succeed. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: this is the week for it. Um. You were right

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Speaker 1: about Colorado's rushing defense. They are second worse than the

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve, only Oregon State is worse. They're giving up

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Speaker 1: a hundred and ninety eight yards per game rushing. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: and when you look at Arizona State, though they're only

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Speaker 1: able to average their tenth then to Pack twelve with

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Speaker 1: a hundred and twelve yards per game rushing. When you

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Speaker 1: think about the best offense is at three hundred yards

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Speaker 1: in Arizona and then Oregon State at two twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: So you are a long way off from being a

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Speaker 1: top rushing defense. But one of these guys has to win.

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Speaker 1: And in scoring offense, Colorado scoring thirty six points a

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Speaker 1: game in their three games in Arizona State's only given

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Speaker 1: up seven. So somebody's gotta lose this. Somebody's got to

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Speaker 1: lose this, and I think that it's going to be

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Speaker 1: Arizona State. And even if they do win, their zero

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Speaker 1: chance they cover there because they were points more than Colorado.

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Speaker 1: Will they score eight points? I could see this being

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Speaker 1: seven and nothing, but I can't. Yep. Yeah, it's more

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Speaker 1: likely to be in seven than nothing than then winning

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Speaker 1: by eight points. Thank you guys for listening to the

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve apostles. We appreciate your time, appreciate your energy.

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Speaker 1: Catch us next Monday. Catch us next Monday. Tell a

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Speaker 1: friend about the About the Pack twelve apostles share it.

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Speaker 1: Great articles on Unafraid show dot com. I'm George Riser,

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Speaker 1: Ralph Amerston, peace out. Catch you Monday, m h