1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Let's bringing Chris Webber, who is going into 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Do I have to call you 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: hall of Famer now? Or do I can I wait 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: till next year? Chris? And I don't know, man, whatever 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: whatever you want to do is good, okay, But did 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: your wife call you hall of famer? How does it 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: work around the house. I don't know. She's happy, but 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: I know she'll never called me that, So you know, 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: maybe you still called me hall of fame when I'm 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: taking out the trash or something, Yes, playing with me, 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: But no, my father he did it when I called 13 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: and total and uh it was it was a really 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: it's a really cool feeling having him to be the 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: first to say it, knowing that, you know, my dad 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: has never called me anything but a boy or side 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: or hey, you know, my whole life. So it was 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: pretty cool. How emotional was that for you when you 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: called your dad? You know, tell the truth? Dad. I'm 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: really like, uh, still kind of I want to call 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: a state of shock, but it the weight of it 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: hasn't hit me. I know what it means. I continue 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: to learn what it means. Uh, But when I called 24 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: my father, I was a special moment. You know, you know, 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: the parents, they go through everything, and just being a 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: father of young kids now, I can't imagine how my 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: father and mother did with five kids that he married 28 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: fifty years the summer in July, So it was a special, 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, special moment from women. As a guy in 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: sort of the Mississippi, he was just going through his 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: life sing. You know, it's really cool I did it. 32 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: But as a father, never thought as a child, when 33 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: he was a child, that you know, he would have kids, 34 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: uh you know, kind of do with his kids. So 35 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: it was awesome. I think Robert or he's a Hall 36 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: of Famer. I think he's I think he's known for winning. 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: I think the teams did these one championships for all 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: said would the one without him? I know he took 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: one for me, So I definitely have to. I definitely 40 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: have to, you know, put him in there just because 41 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: we just you know, we talked about all these clutch players, 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: and guys are clutched doing a regular season, guys are 43 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: clutched during their whole career. But has there been anyone 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: more clutch than Robin Dory, I don't know. Yeah, I 45 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: wondered about that though, because you know, he didn't even 46 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: score ten thousand points. He wasn't a starter, but when 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: a game was on the line, he was the guy 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: that you had to account for. You can't write the 49 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: history of the NBA without Robert or But I wonder 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: what that cutoff is. I mentioned that Derek Fisher has 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: five rings. He's played in the I think as many 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: postseason games as anybody in history, and I think he's 53 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: tied with Lebron So I don't know. And you know, 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: we've been talking about Julian Edelman with the Patriots. Is 55 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: he a Hall of Famer even though he wasn't a 56 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player? Like, it's kind of weird that, you know, 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure this out. It feels like a 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: moving target. Yeah, And you know, Edelman was one of 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: my favorite players doing the playoffs. He didn't care what 60 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: he did doing a regular season. You know, he's going 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: to be a slop position in que. You know, I 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: really I don't know how many of the years. No, no, 63 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I'm I'm a I'm a I'm a 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: Lions fan, recovering Lions fan. But I'm gonna I'm gonna 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: win this year. But I'm a fan of different players, like, 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: for instance, this year, watch out for the Rams. I 67 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: have them earlier. They're going to the super Bowl because 68 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: they have my quarterback. They got my quarterback, and so 69 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm following them. But I was just you know, yeah, 70 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna be good. But um, you know, it's really 71 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: hard to tell the last few years, I've been thinking 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: about these conversations and comparing players and stating things, and 73 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: it just kind of it really gets messy when you 74 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: know you don't have any metrics to you know, compare against, 75 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: and so it just turns to the Warriors. With the 76 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: Lakers last night, what did you see that would be 77 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: of concern if you're a Laker fan. The slow start 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: of the Lakers, the fact that they ever take drumming out. 79 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: You know, I thought that drumming was the price of 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: the of the season because I thought if he just 81 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: came and did what he's supposed to do, and that's 82 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: just rebound, just put back shots, just play defense, I 83 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: thought they were going to be really intense and really tough. 84 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: I still think the Lakers are my favorite with those three, 85 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: but it would concern me the slow start that they 86 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: got off too, because you can't really do that in 87 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs, especially not against great coach teams like Hoenix 88 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: and others. But you got Phoenix now coming up with 89 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: the Lakers fare better against Phoenix than they would Utah. 90 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think the Lakers are just 91 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: when when they're playing then defensive mean defensively with vocal 92 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: is done with them. I just loved it, And so 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: defensively they're so long switch to communicate, whether it's Caruso 94 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: or whether it's a D and so I like them defensively. 95 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: I don't know who would be the tougher. I think 96 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: Utah is probably happy that they get to wait and 97 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: hopefully get that point guardback. But right now, I just 98 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: think that no matter who Las, no matter who the 99 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: Lakers played, they're gonna have to play with the same 100 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: sense of urgency because they don't they don't have that 101 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: room to just play around. When you get switched on Lebron, 102 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: what's that feeling like? WHOA? The first thing you do 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: is look at what ball he has to hand in? 104 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: There is what hand he does the ball in. Then 105 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: you tried to shade him to that side, and then 106 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: you're going like this, which means y'all better be in 107 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: the back and help. You know, I was there. I 108 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: was there in Detroit, Man, and I really honestly thought 109 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: that the Pistons, you know, it was gonna be my 110 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: first chance to win the championship because that was one 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: of the best locker rooms I was in. And he 112 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: had twenty five I think it was in the fourth quarter, 113 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: and I've never seen anything like that with some of 114 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: the best defenders on the Pistons that I've got ever 115 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: played with it. So he's so strong. First as IQ 116 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: was incredible. He's so strong, he takes the shots that 117 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: he wants, and then right when you think that you're 118 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: doing your best job and help comes, he finds somebody 119 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: else in the corner, you know, I mean Booie Gibson 120 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: or whoever hit six threes on this because we were 121 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: going after Lebron. So he's he's one of the greatest, 122 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: just because he understands how great he is. And he's unselfish, 123 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: so he's tough. Does he talk trash now? You want 124 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: to talk to trash to me now? But I mean 125 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: I think he did maybe the ripping guys. He knew 126 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: a little bit but now you know he's gonna I 127 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: think he studied Jordan and those guys. So he waits 128 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: for the big shot at the big moment, and you know, 129 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: kind of talks jump with his gestures or his eyes. 130 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: You see him hit the three last night and STAKELM. 131 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: That was kind of a gesture right there, you know, 132 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: and itself. But Joan, I don't have to talk because 133 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: but Jordan didn't talk until it was a big moment. 134 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: So during the early part of a game, he wouldn't 135 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: say anything. Oh no, Jordan talk No, Yeah, Joan and 136 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: I Joan, thanks for the shirt, by the way, Joan, 137 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: Joan and I Joanna was from Chicago. We play against 138 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: uh Jordan and some of those type of things, and 139 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: so we would talk to Jordan because Jeran and I 140 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: felt like we had nothing to lose and let's just 141 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: give it out all and have some great stories to 142 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: tell our kids about. So Yeah, joined him though he 143 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: would talk from him. If you wanted to talk, he 144 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: would talk. And again I think I told you the 145 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: story about the playoffs when we got off the bus 146 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: and inside of a nine smoking building, joined the smoking 147 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: a cigar before the game, standing and leaning on his 148 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: ferrari As we're getting off the bus and he goes, hey, 149 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: Chris Juan, who's gonna check him tonight? And we were 150 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: I've always pride to myself on being like the best teammate, 151 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: but this night I let my man down because we 152 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: both looked back and said, Calbert got and he gave 153 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: us fifty five in the playoff game, he gave Calbird 154 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: fifty five. He didn't give you fifty five. He probably 155 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: gave me about seventeen though, but we just I mean, 156 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Calbert looked at this too. It was it was he 157 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: looked at it so helpless, like really, really, you're gonna 158 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: do that to me. So that Hall of Famer Chris 159 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Webber joining us on the program, that was a nice 160 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: moment with you and Jalen Rose on ESPN. I don't know, 161 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: it's a long time coming. But is it more than 162 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: that or was it just that that moment that you 163 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: guys got to share. It was just that moment um. 164 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was going to interview me. I 165 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: thought Maria was and you know, right before the interview, uh, 166 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: he interviewed me. And so everything I said that I 167 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: meant and I said, you know, before another interviews. But 168 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: he knows. I meant you got to go into the 169 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: room and talk, fight, wrestle or something, you know. So 170 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: that was a great movement moment. But from all the papers, 171 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: but from what I heard, you know, we made up 172 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: and things like that was definitely talking wrong. So that 173 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: was the first time we talked. Um. It was an 174 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: awesome moment, especially for our parents, our family. I love 175 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: his sister. You know, our families and are close. Um. Yeah, no, 176 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: we still have to talk. Yeah, because a lot of 177 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: times you'll have family members who don't talk to family members, 178 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: but everybody else in the family goes, why don't you too, 179 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: just get in the room and talk. Yeah, that's that's 180 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: that's that's you know what happens up until the day's 181 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: beautiful mother, Um, um had our homegoing. You know, our 182 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: parents were close. You know, every everybody's close. That's that's 183 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: what it is. It's just an issue of you know, 184 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: that's what it is. We just have to go into 185 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: a room and talk. That's just that's just that's just 186 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: the way that I am. I've always been like, Okay, 187 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: I get the world, I get you know, the games 188 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: and everything, but true friends should be able to you know, 189 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: talk and have fun of it. Who knows, maybe you 190 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: know we'll be you know, sitting up there arguing on 191 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: TV one day. You never know, So you know, I 192 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: think that's coming relationship, you know, talking all that. But 193 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: though that was our first conversation, and you know, it 194 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: was it was a really uh it was at a 195 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: it was at a really cool time. And you know, 196 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: it's something that somebody who played with at the age 197 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: of thirteen is actually on one of the best networks 198 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: ever in sports and they get to introduce you. So 199 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: it was it was a moment of you know, whoa 200 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to them. It was a moment of wow, 201 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: this is pretty cool. I remember the stuff we used 202 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: to do. And then it was just more so of 203 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, just being in the moment. So no matter 204 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: how it happened, I appreciate it the moment. I appreciate 205 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: it being able to share that with all the Detroit 206 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, having Jay to do the interview. But yeah, 207 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: we didn't talk, but it wasn't hot. Hopefully it's a start. Yeah, 208 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: hopefully it's just start. Congrats on the Hall of Fame, Chris, 209 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: and we appreciate your time. Has always loved the stories 210 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: and hope to talk to you again soon. I hope 211 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: talk to you so soon. Thanks. That's Chris Webber, member 212 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty one Basketball Hall of Fame class. 213 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 214 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine to 215 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 216 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 217 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 218 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R 219 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Let's bring 220 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: in Robert or the Lakers analysts Spectrum Sports Nets seven 221 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: time NBA champ. You can check out Big Shot Bob 222 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: podcast at new shows every Wednesday. This week Vernon Maxwell, 223 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: That'll be fun. Hey talks NBA fights, trash Talk his 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: time in Houston with Bob. Other guests Steve Kerrmark Cuban, 225 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: Jeanie Buss, Mugsy Bogues, Mitch Richmond, John Sally, and Shaquille O'Neal. 226 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Who's the scariest guy you ever played against? Scary mich 227 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: Who made you nervous? Dennis Rodman kind of made me nervous. 228 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: You never know what to get out of Dennis. You 229 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: have those days where he coming out and he's a 230 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: nice guy and then he's a dirty guy. So you 231 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: never knew it Dennis. But after I got a chance 232 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: to play with dinner As, I realized he's probably one 233 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: of the smartest players you would ever come across. Man. 234 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: He was incredible. People talk about Alvin Robertson being one 235 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: of the guys that you just stayed away from, and 236 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: Vernon as well, like those were two guys that you 237 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: weren't quite sure what you were going to get. I 238 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to play against Albam, but playing 239 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: with Vernon, I understand where people come from when they 240 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: say that Vernon was a guy who played a lot 241 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: of passion, and people who don't know athletes, you know, 242 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: when they played a lot of passion, they can come 243 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: out in a lot of different ways. And I tell 244 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: people all the time, if I have to pick one 245 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: teammate to play with, it's gonna be Vernon because I 246 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: know he's gonna have your back regardless of what's going on. 247 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not just talking about when it comes 248 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: to like competing, I'm talking a when it comes to 249 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: compete I'm not talking about just as far as you 250 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: know skill set. I'm just saying I'm gonna have your back. 251 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: You could be wrong, you could be one hundred percent wrong. 252 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: Vernon's gonna have your back. He gonna tell you you're wrong. 253 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: But I got your back, you know. So that's what 254 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean by that. I love Vernon the death. He 255 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: was a strong, fierce competitor, and he's one of those 256 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: guys when you first come into the league and you 257 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: have you have to go up against guys like Scottie 258 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: pipp and you know, Charles Oakley. Vernon's gonna hype you 259 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: up because he knows how to talk trash, not just 260 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: to the teammates, but to you to get you fired up. 261 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: Where were you when Rudy tom Jonovich gave his Hall 262 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: of Fame speech and then gave you a shout out 263 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: that you should be in the Hall of Fame. I 264 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: was actually outside at home. I was recording it, and 265 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: because my wife and I was doing something in the yard, 266 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: and well she was doing something in the yard. I 267 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: was watching, and so my phone was just going off 268 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: and my meeting. I was like, what's going on, what's wrong? 269 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: I just thought I went to my kids, like something wrong. 270 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: My kids and I just kept looking. So I walked 271 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: in the house and I started watching it, and at 272 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: first I was like, what damn, Rudy just straight forgot 273 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: about me, you know, And I thought that. I thought 274 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: that's why everybody was talking to text me like mandye, 275 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: Rudy just forgot about you. And then the end he 276 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: gave me that you know that shout out, and I 277 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: was like, wow, you know, for a guy to take 278 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: time in this Hall of Fame speech to you know, 279 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: to put me and then try to, you know, get 280 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: some recognition for me for the Hall of Fame. Is 281 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: it's an honor. That's all I can say. Okay, Now, 282 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't want you to say it's up for others. 283 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm asking you, do you think you're a Hall of Famer? Um? 284 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: You know, every person thinks he's a Hall of Famer. 285 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: And I know every guy who ever played this game, 286 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: unless you only play one season, thinks you're a Hall 287 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: of Famer. Um, days I do, and days I don't. 288 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna be honest with you because I 289 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: look at some of the people in the Hall of 290 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: Fame and I want to hide the hell they got there, 291 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: and then I look at some of the people it's 292 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: over here. They deserve to be there, and it's it's 293 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: one of those things that's it's debatable, um, you know, 294 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: and for me, I'm fine with the debate. And I 295 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: love when people say I don't belong because they don't 296 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: know jack shit. And I like it when my players, 297 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, just like when you had Reggie on your 298 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: show and he said I do. So when you got 299 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: your colleagues saying that you do, that's all that matter. 300 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: I can care about careless about half the people who 301 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: don't because they never played the game. They didn't know 302 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: what I brought to the game. Asking any of my 303 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: teammates what I brought to the game, came to play 304 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: every day, you know. Think about the sixteen seasons. I 305 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: didn't miss that many games, and I played for a 306 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: long time. I had the most playoff games. I never 307 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: lost in the first round of playoffs. I know this 308 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: when I say I it's a team sport, but it 309 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: takes a you know, certain individuals to bring that out. 310 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: And for me to have all the things I did 311 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: in this game, I can say I did even though 312 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: I never made an all defensive team which I should 313 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: have my first four years in the league because you know, 314 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: think about I had one hundred steals and one hundred 315 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: blocks in the once in like three straight seasons and 316 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: never got talked about for a defensive you know team 317 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: so and it wasn't that many guys doing it and 318 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: for me and I never and I'm the person that 319 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: never pubs myself because this game to me, wasn't about 320 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: individual stats. It was about going out and doing stuff 321 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: as a team and winning championships and being successful to you, 322 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: because if you're successful as a unit, you were successful 323 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: as a person. Would you trade your career for Karl 324 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: Malone's uh no? Uh you know, I would change my 325 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: salaries for years, But other than that, I wouldn't trade 326 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: my thinking about Karl Malone is, uh he hasn't. He didn't. 327 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: He never wanted the finals. He weighs for three, oh 328 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: for four, I'm seven from seven for seven, you know, 329 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: and I'm not trading that. You know. I know a 330 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: lot of people would look at what your career where 331 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: he scored a lot of points with third leading score 332 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: of all time. Uh No, because it's all about winning. 333 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: It's not about individual status. It's about getting it done 334 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: as a team. This is not you know, singles tennis 335 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: where you you would be successful and being a single person. 336 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: But I'm happy with my career. It could have gone better. 337 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: It could It could have been some things I could 338 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: have did better, and it could have been some the 339 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: ways where I was more voiceful and wanted to step up. 340 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: Because you know, there's so many times where I look 341 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: back at my career and you took a back seat. 342 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: You know, That's why I love Rudy t because he 343 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: knew the skill set I had and he put me 344 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: out then he you know, he ran plays for me. 345 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Once I left Houston, I never had a play run 346 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: for me again. You know, it's a funny thing I 347 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: think about that twenty years left. That's hard. I never 348 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: had a play round for me. Even when I went 349 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: off in that series with sant Antonio playing the Pistons, 350 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: none of those plays were ran for me. If I 351 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: was going to single out one shot though that I 352 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: only get to show one shot. What's the one that 353 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: I show of Robert Doran? You know it's everybody knows 354 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: before the shot against the Sacramento Kings and too against 355 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: in the Western Conference, and for me, that's one of 356 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: my greatest shots, probably the greatest shots. But for me, 357 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: if I have to do something personally, it goes back 358 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: to the Detroit Pistons in two thousand and five. My 359 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: middle son Cameron, he was telling me that, Dad, you 360 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: don't dunk anymore. And then I said okay, and then 361 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: that game. You know, when I went off in Game 362 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: five in Detroit, I had a really good dump and 363 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: a friend of mine, Opie Old Stair, who does paintings, 364 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: he calls it the batman dug on the why. But 365 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: for me, I think that move for me would be 366 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: the one that I would show because it had had 367 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: a special moment for me. One of my kids was like, oh, 368 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: you don't dunk anymore. And then I did it on 369 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: the biggest stage in two thousand and five in the 370 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: final so at an old age of thirty five. So 371 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: that dump. Those paintings behind you pretty pretty cool. Those 372 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: are your seven titles, Yes, those are what Opie did, 373 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: and so it represents each title a shot in the progression. 374 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: And so I did those and they're hung in my house. 375 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: And I just used that as a background because if 376 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: you see what's behind it, as a liquor cabinet and 377 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: because and I don't want everybody know, a liquor cabinet 378 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: behind me. But but you get in the Hall of Fame, 379 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: we're breaking into that cabinet, right. Oh yes, yes, you know. 380 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: It's it's weird you think doing COVID that you would 381 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: have a couple of drinks and I have it, man, 382 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: because I was, you know, trying to get back. I 383 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: went back to school and I've just been, you know, 384 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: trying to focus on me because I know, I didn't 385 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: want that COVID nineteen, meaning those nineteen pounds to jump 386 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: on me like a lot of my friends. I said, 387 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: I said, maybe twelve jumped on me. But night nineteen. 388 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: So I got less work to do now that we 389 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: can get back into the gym. So you know, but 390 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, if I do get into Hall of Fame, 391 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, look out, I'm breaking open the good stuff. 392 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: He's Robert Dory the Lakers analysts respect Spectrum Sports Net. 393 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: Seven time NBA Champion is a podcast Big Shots, Bob. 394 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: It's a big shot by Lebron last night, Oh Hugh, 395 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, And it's it's crazy how the biggest shots 396 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: I always come well a lot of times come from 397 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: a broken play. Think about that. Uh KCP was driving 398 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: and bron thought he had a lamp and Draymond Greene 399 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: that what he was supposed to had great defense came 400 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: over and Casey was kind of hung up, and so 401 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: he kicked it back to lebron Lebron shout out j 402 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: from the logo, you know, logo Bronze. So it was 403 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: it was amazing. What do you see when you see 404 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: Steph Curry? A machine? He is a perfect example of 405 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: hard work and dedication and sacrifice. You have those unusual 406 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: athletes that come into this game and can do things 407 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: that nobody else can. UM, if you, I think the 408 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: best thing for him last year was missing last season, 409 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: getting hurt and then going in the lab and just 410 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: working on his jay. Thinking about it, when you hurt 411 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: and you know you can't do much, you just shoot, 412 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: you just shoot, just shoot. Even though he was a 413 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: great shooter, he became an upper he became an upper 414 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: echelon shooter. UM. His body became fresher, he got stronger. 415 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: If you look at his body, you look at his 416 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: body when he came to the league to now he 417 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: is a man. Now you know, he was like a 418 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: little skinner boy. And now I don't say that as 419 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: any disrespect because a lot of athletes are skinny. But 420 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: he put on muscle, he got stronger, and Lucky got faster, 421 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: and his skill set as far as dribbling has always been, 422 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: you know, up there with with Kyrie's and so to 423 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: see what he's able to do and learn how to 424 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: escape and constantly moving. I know we talk about guys 425 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: in this league like Rip Hallington and Reggie Miller who 426 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: always moved. I think Steph is taking that to a 427 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: new level because he's constant movement. So he must be 428 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: one of the best. He must be in shape better 429 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: in any athlete in the league because he's a constant movement. 430 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: And then to bring the ball up and then have 431 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: the strength to shoot it from half court with accuracy. 432 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: This guy's machine. Now, you played against Lebron Michael Kobe, 433 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: so I don't know how many players have played against 434 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: all three, but yeah, the magic dominique. Is there any 435 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: similarities though? Is there a common thread with those three guys? Uh? 436 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: The intensity I think, and those three guys were of 437 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: a very intense um. They could carry a team. M 438 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: But you know, MJ. I think he just separates itself 439 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: from when you when you talk about intensee and Kobe 440 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: was right there on the edge. And I never played 441 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: with him. J just played against him, and you can 442 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: tell the difference. And I was with when I played 443 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: with Kobe, it was a different intense Kobe, because our 444 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: whole team was intense, from Rick Fox, d Fish, b Shaw, 445 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, all of us. We were intense. You know, 446 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: we know called show Shack and Kobe, but that's why 447 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: we won three in a row. But I just look 448 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: at his Michael Jordan and intense and listening to him 449 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: and watching him play, I think he was just, you know, 450 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: a very intense dude. He played with a lot of passion. 451 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: And that's the thing about it. You know, we always 452 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: sing a lot of guys like Kobe, MJ and Shaq. 453 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, every NBA game, every MBA guy plays a 454 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: lot of passion. If they didn't have passion, it wouldn't 455 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: be where they are. And it's just some guys can 456 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: take it to another level and some guys just get 457 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: you know, noted for that. You know, you got certain 458 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: think about it. You know, Tim Duncan one of the 459 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: best players that ever played this game. He showed no emotions, 460 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: so people never told he played with He played with 461 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: a lot of hard a lot of pas. He just 462 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: just have antics and so people were like, oh, he 463 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: plays with You know, nobody has bigger heart to anybody else. 464 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: You know, we all have heart to get to the NBA. 465 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: We all have passions. It's how it's with the guy talent. 466 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: The talent that God graces with pushes over the edge 467 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: and all those guys have the talent that God grace 468 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: and with like no other. So that's what it boils 469 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: down to. I wondered about this, Robert watching Popovich last 470 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: night walking off the floor. M I wondered if thought 471 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: the last time we're going to see him as the 472 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: coach of the Spurs. I think so, I really think so. 473 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: I think you know, you know, with him losing his 474 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: wife and his big three gun, you know, he figured 475 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: he'll give it one more chance, and I just don't 476 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: see him having the desire to do it. Think about 477 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: a pop is a passionate guy. Also, he has that fire, 478 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: but it's time for him to do something else. Um, 479 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: he's coached for a long time with one franchise. You 480 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: know he does he has a passion for wine. Um, 481 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 1: you know, he should do anything. He should be an 482 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: inspirational speaker. He should go around the country doing that. 483 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: That way he can spend more time with his family 484 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: and get off that court. That's someone else. That team 485 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: is funny. He is funny at times, high iq very 486 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: educated man, very funny, very sarcastic funny. But he is 487 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: he is so important a lot of those players' lives 488 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: is the fact that, you know, when we played basketball, 489 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: we get so hung up on perfecting our craft that 490 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: we sacrifice a lot of the time with our families. 491 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: And he is so intent on making sure guys spend 492 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: time with their family and understanding importance of that, you know. 493 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: And I know after him losing his wife, he probably 494 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: I haven't seen them since that. I'm sure he probably 495 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: iterates that a little bit more of me. I know 496 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: that with me. When my daughter was sick in the hospital, 497 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: he told me don't come back to the team until 498 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: she got she got out of the hospital, and then 499 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: I came back. He's like, what are you doing here? 500 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: She's home? Is enough, get out of here. And you know, 501 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: that's the type of guy that nobody really understands and knows. 502 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: They just knows him from basketball, but he's a really 503 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: heartfelt guy when it comes to family. That's why he 504 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: treats his team like that like family. I'll leave you 505 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: with this. How concerned should Laker fans be this year 506 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: with this playoffs, with this team in the playoffs? I 507 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: think they should be concerned because they're having no they 508 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: don't have enough continuity right now. You know, they're still 509 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: trying to adapt drumming. They're still trying to put ad 510 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: back in the mix with drumming, and it's it's a 511 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: different kind of feel um. You know, if you look 512 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: at this team, even though they won it last season 513 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: with a pretty much new team, this is a new 514 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: team again. You got Kassol, you got Matthews, you got 515 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: Montres Harold, all these new additions that they're still trying 516 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: to learn how to play together. And you see some 517 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: teams like when you could put the Big three, the 518 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: first pick three and itselfts together, they just clicked. This 519 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: team didn't. They haven't clicked, and hopefully they find a 520 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: way to click. But they haven't really clicked yet because 521 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: of all the new additions, all the injuries, all the protocols. 522 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: So this team is still learning and they're and and 523 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: they're in a great bracket, you know, and people always 524 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: talk about bracketology when it comes to college. But I've 525 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: learned from day one from Tree Rollins. I know that's 526 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: the name from the past, but it's all about where 527 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: you at in in the NBA brackets, who you match 528 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: up with well with and this decide that the Lakers 529 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: are on there're no biggs, no dominant biggs in that side. 530 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: And think about that. You know, a D one of 531 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: the most dominant biggs in the game. I know everybody said, 532 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: well what about um Yoki. Yokis is not a defensive big. 533 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: He can't play he cannot play a D. And so 534 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: I think they're in a great back of bracket. They 535 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: can learn how they play together as they grow through 536 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: this um It's playoffs. So I think they're I'll be fine. 537 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: But the challenges when they get to the conference finals 538 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: when they have bigs and they have athletic guys, because 539 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking Utah and the Clippers are going to meet 540 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: and whoever wins that series, who are going to meet 541 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: the Lakers in the Western Conference finals. If Lebron kicked 542 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: it out to you right now, would you may could, 543 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: I would thought someone else and I usually don't do 544 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: that thought someone else had. Hey, I had shot basketball forever. 545 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: You know. My son's fifteen. He's always like, damn, let's play. 546 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: I look at him like I pass it to you. 547 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: I can't do it right now. Hey, give me a year, 548 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: give me a train, and give me us a nutrition. 549 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: I'll get back out there there. I'm just kidding. Thank you, Robert. 550 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: Great to talk to you, and good luck with the postseason. 551 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, man, Thank you, thanks for always having up 552 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: back and having me on the show. Man you stay safe. 553 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: That's Robert Dory, Lakers analyst and Big Shot Bob podcast. 554 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 555 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 556 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 557 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 558 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Twenty 559 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: years ago, honestly changed the putting game when they introduced 560 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: the white hot insert. And now well, it's the most iconic, 561 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: most played, most sought after putter insert of all time 562 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: and it's back, which is great news. It's the new 563 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: white hot og. White Hot og legendary then iconic now 564 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: and you can see the lineup odyssee goolf dot com. 565 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: Brett Walker is amongst the field competing at the PGA 566 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: Championship in Kiowa Island this week, and Brett joins us 567 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: after his practice round. How would you describe Kiowa to 568 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: those of us who will never get to play that course? 569 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: It's it's a great golf course. It's right on the beach. 570 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: You know, you could, honestly if you don't want to 571 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: play golf, you just go right to the beach and 572 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: go hang out on the beach at South Carolina, which 573 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: is pretty sweet. Fairly long course. I think they said 574 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: it was probably one of the longest in the history. Yeah, 575 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: I think they added two hundred yards since twenty twelve, 576 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: so it's fairly long. But you get a lot of 577 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: down wind holes, which you know, the yardage doesn't play that. 578 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you about the yardage plays that when 579 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: you play into the and so some tough holes out there, 580 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: some you know, some sparble holes, but all in all though, 581 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's a quality of course. And I'll tell 582 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 1: you what the you know, the one you see on 583 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: on video on TV just doesn't do it justice. It's 584 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: a beautiful property and if you've never been out here, 585 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: it's it's real tree to come out and and walk 586 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: the course for sure. So you got a nice view there. Yeah, 587 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: this is the player's locker room overlooking the practice screen 588 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: in the ocean. It's uh, it's something pretty sweet. Can 589 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: you lift up and let us see over the balcony there? 590 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: Can we can we get a little bit of a 591 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: tour here. Yeah, so we're oh wow, yeah that's that's 592 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: come on, that's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty sweet. It's 593 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: not bad. Yeah, they have bears. They have bears in 594 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: the players lounge. You know, they probably do. They're just uh, 595 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: you might have to go to the concession stands again. Okay, 596 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: well Rory probably doesn't have to, No, may you probably 597 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: just you know whatever. Honestly, whatever you need, they'll get 598 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: it for you. It's wild you can ask somebody something 599 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: and that they'll get to you within within minutes. So 600 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's pretty special to be uh in that 601 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: same company as the US everyone else, which is awesome. 602 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: Who did you want to meet? You know? When you're 603 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: milling around the driving range or the putting green, are 604 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: you allowed to do that. Yeah, you can mingle with 605 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: any of the players. Honestly. Um, I was just gonna 606 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: stay low key, honestly because that's kind of my personality. 607 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: I kind of just usually fly into the radar and 608 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: uh yeah, you know, if I get paired up with 609 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: some people, then I'll you know, talk to them, meet 610 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: him and whatnot, and maybe in passing say hi, um, 611 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, good morning whatnot. Said good morning to Rory 612 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: and just kind of kept walking and you know, nonchalantly 613 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: just was like, hey, what's up. And yeah, So it's uh, 614 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen these guys before plenty of tournaments, 615 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: so um, making it you know, you don't need to 616 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: make it weird or anything. You just you know, it's 617 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: just like another player, like another tournament that I've tied up. 618 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I've tied up in hundreds of tournaments. So 619 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: they're just another player and they may have a little 620 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: bit more history behind them, but yet at the end 621 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: of the day, sir, they're still competing like me. So, yeah, 622 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: how did you qualify? I qualified through the National PJA 623 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: Professional Championship a couple weeks ago at Port Saint Lucy, Florida. 624 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: That's a four day event and they take three hundred 625 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: and twelve PJA golf professionals and they play a four 626 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 1: day event and do a normal two day cut, actually 627 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: do a three day cut as well, and then they 628 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: take the top twenty out of that three hundred and 629 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: twelve players to go to the PJA Championship. And I 630 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: ended that place and tied for eighth and snuck my 631 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: way into the PJA Championship. So it's pretty sweet. And 632 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'm really excited to be here and ready 633 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: to go on ready to go on Thursday morning. What 634 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: expectations do you have? Honestly, not much. I just want 635 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: to play my own game, play the game that got 636 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: me here. I want to be confident, believe in myself, 637 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: and to do exactly what I did to get here. 638 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 1: And I think if I do that, I think I 639 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: can have a good chance to compete at this at 640 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: this next level, which is something that I've dreamed about 641 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: for a long time, and it's happening and it's cool 642 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: to be living experience. I'm really excited. So expectations not 643 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: a lot. Just want to go out there and find 644 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: my own game and see what happens. What's the best 645 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: finish you've ever had. I won a couple of times. 646 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I won twice at Division one level and 647 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: walked onto Mexico State University and won twice there in 648 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: the home tournament. And then I won the PGA National 649 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: Struke Play in February of this year, shooting thirteen hundred 650 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: part and shooting an eight hunderd par the final round 651 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: to tie Omar Usd and then beat him in a playoff. 652 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: And so yeah, so I've won a few times, and 653 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: a couple of times as an amateur a couple and 654 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, once as a professional, and quite a few 655 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: runner up finishes and the PJA section stuff. So I 656 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: was chomping right there to get the w and ready 657 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: to get some more for sure. How much of this 658 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: is mental this week? Honestly? Largely a lot of it? Um. 659 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I noticed that when I got to the 660 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: collegiate level, from high school to collegiate to um professional level, 661 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 1: every every level has a mental component because I believe, 662 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, as a PJA golf professional, I believe that 663 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: golf in general is part physical and part mental. It's 664 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: fifty percent physical competence and fifty percent mental confidence. And 665 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: I think you need to work on that, and I 666 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: think neglecting that is neglecting almost half of your game. 667 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: So I think if you, you know, do your technique, 668 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: do your swing coach and whatnot, and then you you 669 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: obviously work on your confidence. I think you can you 670 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: can build the red package. And a lot of these 671 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: players already are do that, and that's why they're out here, 672 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: especially the veterans that have been out here for you know, 673 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years. They know they know what to do 674 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: day in and day out and to get it done. 675 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: Um on their physical level as well as their their 676 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: mental level, for sure. Are you more likely to get 677 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: mad at your driver or your putter? Um? Neither. I 678 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: mean they're both good. I like them both, and uh, 679 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: you know it's uh maybe the potter if you had 680 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: to guess, because I got a few of them just 681 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: in case, because you can. You can always switch to 682 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: another putter, and you know I was when I was 683 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: at New Mexico State. Dirk's always said sometimes you need 684 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: something new to look at. You know, you can do 685 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: the same thing with driver. Um, but uh yeah, I 686 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: mean I like them both and excited to to tee 687 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: it up and then also to make some birdies out there. Yeah, 688 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: I know. I wondered about that though, the putter, that 689 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: it feels like they're interchangeable, and that a putter is 690 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: hot or one is not hot. I get. How do 691 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: you explain that where all of a sudden you go, 692 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: you know, I went back to this putter I haven't 693 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: played in a couple of years, and I played well 694 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, exactly. I kind of stumbled upon this 695 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: a few years ago, or I kind of have almost 696 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: coined this phrase of capture the feeling. And sometimes just 697 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: the simple look of the putter makes you feel confident. 698 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: You're like, wow, I like the look at this, and 699 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: then you stroke one put and you're like wow, the 700 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: feel felt good. And if it's a putter that you've 701 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: used in the past, like I put a putter into 702 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: play during that National PGA event that I had putted 703 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: with in the past and had had success with, and 704 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: it it brought back good feelings and good memories. And 705 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: so when I look down as like, ah, I remember this, 706 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: this is a good putter. And so simply just the 707 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: look of it can change your mindset. The different length 708 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: of it for short tian, you know, the different head 709 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: shape for short tan if you are you know, if 710 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: you have a blade or mallet, that can also affect it. 711 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, just the simple look of it. It sounds crazy, 712 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: but it's sometimes as simple as it is, and I 713 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: like to try to keep things simple. I think it's 714 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: easier if it's like that. Well, good luck, I know, 715 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: have fun, but having fun usually means you play well too, 716 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: So good luck with that. Yeah, thank you, thank you, 717 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Good luck Brett, thank you, thank you appreciate it. 718 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: Have good luck. Be sure to catch the live edition 719 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern 720 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart 721 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: Radio WAP