Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Every day a week ago.
Speaker 1: Click your ass up the Breakfast Club, finish for y'all.
Speaker 2: Done morning, Everybody's d j Envy just hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. You got a special guests
Speaker 2: in the belting.
Speaker 1: One of the most slept on comedians generations. One of
Speaker 1: the most slept on comedians of our generation. Don l
Speaker 1: Rowlins agree, Donelle.
Speaker 3: How you feeling?
Speaker 2: How you feeling?
Speaker 3: I'm feeling good. I feel like I just got this
Speaker 3: product and it works. Wonders. It's supposed to remove negative energy.
Speaker 3: I don't know positive, but it's a polanto spray and
Speaker 3: it works wonders for people that.
Speaker 2: But how are you feeling?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: How's your son? I've seen you on the river. I've
Speaker 2: seen you really enjoying life. Man.
Speaker 3: It's horrible. Really yeah, and it got even worse than you.
Speaker 3: Uh recommended a therapist for me to go see.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you started going to you started going to therapy.
Speaker 3: And uh he gave me horrible advice.
Speaker 1: What was the advice.
Speaker 3: It was a situation with me dealing with like baby
Speaker 3: mama drama, Okay, And I say, sometime I get to
Speaker 3: a point where I'm just frustrated. I don't know what
Speaker 3: to do. And then he said, what would you do,
Speaker 3: and what would you do if you were doing a
Speaker 3: comedy show right and you wasn't the audience wasn't engaged,
Speaker 3: what would you do? I said, well, I've had that
Speaker 3: situation where I had to fall back, regroup, speak a
Speaker 3: little slower, you know what I'm saying, to start all over.
Speaker 3: And he said, why don't you do that in your relationship?
Speaker 3: And I tried that and it still didn't work. So
Speaker 3: thank you for giving me the worst therapists in the world, tost.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying what happened when you tried it? Why
Speaker 4: didn't it work?
Speaker 3: It just it just it just didn't work. I think
Speaker 3: we I don't know, it just didn't work.
Speaker 4: I saw you post your son's birthday though, and it
Speaker 4: seemed like y'all are.
Speaker 1: But that's the son that's not the mother of this
Speaker 1: child with her.
Speaker 4: So I figured all the co parents and stuff was
Speaker 4: going well, it.
Speaker 3: Is going well. It's a tough thing, I tell you,
Speaker 3: for anybody to do co parents, it's tough, especially when
Speaker 3: you you still may have some emotions of all whatever.
Speaker 3: But I will say this, I dated this SMOs No,
Speaker 3: can we can we have rules? Can we have rules
Speaker 3: of engagement? What do you mean, like you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to raise your hand, You're gonna do something different? All right?
Speaker 3: The way you communicate, I don't really like it. And
Speaker 3: I was trying to explain. I dated this girl some
Speaker 3: years ago, right, and she got separate. She was separate
Speaker 3: her parents' divorce when she was young. Right. And I
Speaker 3: also I used to always see.
Speaker 2: Well, he said, raise his hand when you had a question,
Speaker 2: but still.
Speaker 3: Gotta let me finish. You have to let me finish.
Speaker 3: It's just about the mother of your child or another one.
Speaker 3: It's about what I wanted to be about.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yes, let just ask all.
Speaker 2: Hairs together, guys.
Speaker 3: So I used to see, uh, the women I used
Speaker 3: to date, her parents were still together. They would do Thanksgiving,
Speaker 3: they would do dinners and do all this type stuff.
Speaker 3: And I used to say, they must be smashing, no
Speaker 3: way that they're that connected to each other. But as
Speaker 3: I got older or I had this situation in my life,
Speaker 3: I was like, nah, they were just trying to give
Speaker 3: or create the best family situation as a co parent
Speaker 3: that could do. So that's what I do, and I
Speaker 3: imply it in my life and we do do a
Speaker 3: good job.
Speaker 2: You know, So you don't have emotions, is what his
Speaker 2: question was.
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I mean I wouldn't like you. I
Speaker 3: don't think she still likes me. But what has emotions?
Speaker 2: Because you said this emotion is you said that, that's
Speaker 2: what you said.
Speaker 5: You said it can be he said, it can be
Speaker 5: hard when emotion.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for the clarity.
Speaker 1: You still have emotions. She still has emotions.
Speaker 3: Nobody has emotions. We are raising a beautiful uh young man.
Speaker 3: And I mean this one thing I say about my
Speaker 3: co parents situation. A lot of times when mom and
Speaker 3: dad are not together like that, it's it's separate. It's
Speaker 3: like my mother, my father, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But my son, whenever he talks, he speaks to speaks
Speaker 3: on us as a family, still live as parents. It's
Speaker 3: not like I'm going to my mother house or my
Speaker 3: father house. So we're doing a good job with that.
Speaker 3: And Austin's beautifulkid.
Speaker 1: Do you regret at anything?
Speaker 2: But do you regret anything in that situation relationship because
Speaker 2: you said before that you were the one that messed up.
Speaker 3: Correct, I didn't say, I was want to mess it up.
Speaker 1: I can see that though, we can see you being
Speaker 1: the one.
Speaker 3: What were you saying?
Speaker 6: So when you go on stage, do you talk about
Speaker 6: you know, your past relationship or your co parents and
Speaker 6: relationship with your son's mother on stage?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, has she ever heard about that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she like it.
Speaker 3: No, no, it was I'm gonna tell you if she
Speaker 3: knows me, my life is gonna go on stage, right,
Speaker 3: she understands that. But sometimes when people get in your head,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like what she throw was
Speaker 3: the funny jokes. One of her girls come, huh, I
Speaker 3: don't believe he did that, and he gassedlight and all
Speaker 3: that stuff. We had that situation. But you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: you dated a comedian. That's what's gonna be. My life
Speaker 3: is gonna be on stage. But I'm always I never
Speaker 3: would do or say anything to put her in a
Speaker 3: bad light or anything, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: she gave me the biggest gift for my life. So
Speaker 3: I'm forever grateful for that. And I even say, you know,
Speaker 3: it's a certain it's a certain amount for someone to
Speaker 3: have your kid, it's a certain amount of love. I
Speaker 3: think you're gonna always have that. Does that mean getting
Speaker 3: back together or rekilling anything? It doesn't, but it's a
Speaker 3: certain amount of love and respect I always have. The
Speaker 3: next question, did you.
Speaker 2: Ever ask, like how it affects herm when you go
Speaker 2: on stage and talk about it, because that could bring trauma?
Speaker 3: Did you ever like, I don't know, No, I don't,
Speaker 3: I don't. I can't. Man if I said you care,
Speaker 3: so if I care, but I don't care because.
Speaker 4: That didn't come out of therapy.
Speaker 1: That was that was disgusting.
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 1: Do you think they're calling yourself?
Speaker 3: And my brother said the games don't really like you
Speaker 3: the way you think they do. When you said that,
Speaker 3: you know that's what he said. When you said, he
Speaker 3: said get over yourself.
Speaker 1: When you said dating a narcissist, speaking of not being
Speaker 1: able to get over yourself. When you talk about dating
Speaker 1: a narciss do you think that's triggering for the mother
Speaker 1: of your child.
Speaker 3: I didn't say that you don't know who the narcissist is.
Speaker 3: You clearly how you know that's.
Speaker 1: Mean because of what you just said, because she didn't
Speaker 1: sign up for.
Speaker 2: That part of it.
Speaker 3: All right, what we're gonna do is we're gonna have
Speaker 3: to slow down, all right, there's just too much going
Speaker 3: on right now. All right, we're gonna slow down.
Speaker 1: So either way it's triggering because whether or not she
Speaker 1: had to date you the narcissist, or you're calling her
Speaker 1: a narciss that is gas like.
Speaker 3: It's up to this, up to the interpretation of who thinks.
Speaker 3: I don't know who to the narciss I don't know
Speaker 3: what the narcisses really is. All I know every time
Speaker 3: I use it, it come up in my algorithms. The
Speaker 3: minute we argue about something, it's always and the narcissist
Speaker 3: woman would do this. I don't know what the fucking
Speaker 3: narcissist is. I just think it's it's a word that
Speaker 3: you use to sell books and make my money. On
Speaker 3: the side, I feel from her because you just talk
Speaker 3: you are the narcissists.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know you've always been raw and unfiltered as
Speaker 1: being too real ever cost you opportunities in this industry
Speaker 1: and in your personal life.
Speaker 3: Great question has been no, because I am who I am.
Speaker 3: I don't act like on anybody else. And then with me,
Speaker 3: it's what you like version of you. I don't really
Speaker 3: care about what people like. If I'm presenting myself the
Speaker 3: best way I can, and I'm putting it out there
Speaker 3: like I want to. I can't care about people like
Speaker 3: I can't let to. I can't let uh. I can't
Speaker 3: let people control what I'm doing on stage or off stage. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: do you think you know? You so?
Speaker 4: I'm just.
Speaker 7: Yes, you know, I'm just in here observing. I just
Speaker 7: you know, it's been a while observing observing?
Speaker 1: What do you see?
Speaker 3: What is observing or observe?
Speaker 7: I think he's having a hard time tracking because you
Speaker 7: know as he gets up there.
Speaker 3: To what is wow?
Speaker 2: Get up?
Speaker 3: What does get up there mean?
Speaker 4: Up on the chair where you sat down at?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: What question do you think that? You know you lost
Speaker 2: your edge now that you change you play pickleballs?
Speaker 3: Do white things gives you? Do white ship? Nigga? You
Speaker 3: was riding bikes with biker shorts on. So you did
Speaker 3: that for your shoes and going to the thing we
Speaker 3: were doing that. You know, the shoes that you put
Speaker 3: inside the pen, the bike shoes.
Speaker 2: I lost a little bit, that's my asking.
Speaker 3: And you put that ship in the garage. You got
Speaker 3: your photo of you probably got a sponsorship for that.
Speaker 3: He was like okay, on to the next. That's what
Speaker 3: you did, sir. But I don't lose, no edge, I
Speaker 3: don't lose No.
Speaker 1: You did that.
Speaker 5: I saw you did the Chris Brown challenge.
Speaker 3: My friend Givanta Robbers right there. That's my TikTok. That's
Speaker 3: my TikTok. That's my TikTok.
Speaker 1: I did it.
Speaker 5: You did better than I thought you. Man, you killed it.
Speaker 1: You ain't losing no.
Speaker 3: I uh, I was horrible.
Speaker 2: I wasn't that bad.
Speaker 3: I wasn't not bad, but I wasn't. I mean, I
Speaker 3: thought it was fun and it was like it's a
Speaker 3: lot to I mean, the only I did that part right,
Speaker 3: I did this part right, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: I did that.
Speaker 3: The only part I had was I had that. I
Speaker 3: did that. I did that, and then I did this
Speaker 3: part right here, and then I did that, and then
Speaker 3: I did that. Then I did that, and and that
Speaker 3: was it. That was and then I came back. I
Speaker 3: did a roll by that then mix it up.
Speaker 2: We were thinking about you earlier, thinking about something that
Speaker 2: Charlamagne and I were talking about that you know, since
Speaker 2: we got to this age is very enjoyable. Have you
Speaker 2: ever thought about getting a bedet?
Speaker 3: No? Why I just don't. No, that's not my thing.
Speaker 3: That's the gateway, the gateway to clean. That's a gateway
Speaker 3: to that's a gateway to your lifestyle, clean what it is.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't be who you are right now if you
Speaker 3: didn't for your first blue day. First of all, I'm
Speaker 3: not here for all you Have you.
Speaker 1: Ever been gave? Have you ever been gave? For? Adet? Oh?
Speaker 2: You have gifts?
Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry. This unfortunate. It's not a thing for
Speaker 3: it's not a just right here. It's because I've had
Speaker 3: and there's nothing no slight on the ladies in here.
Speaker 3: But I've had a history with these guys for so
Speaker 3: many years, and you.
Speaker 4: Came up here with gifts for them people.
Speaker 5: We didn't earn our gifts yet.
Speaker 1: That's your question for open this box. Ask your question, told, Well,
Speaker 1: that's your question. As a black comedian, how do you
Speaker 1: balance being funny with being a cultural truth How do what?
Speaker 1: How do you balance being funny with being a cultural
Speaker 1: truth teller?
Speaker 3: As a black comedian, how do you balance I don't
Speaker 3: understand that question.
Speaker 1: What do you mean? How do you balance being funny
Speaker 1: and also being a cultural truth teller?
Speaker 3: I'm a truth teller. That happens to inject human with that.
Speaker 3: So I'm always gonna tell the truth, and if that
Speaker 3: truth happens to be funny, that's what it is. I
Speaker 3: don't really go looking for a joke. I just try
Speaker 3: to recreate life and situations that that I come in
Speaker 3: contact with and I'm putting on the stage. So my
Speaker 3: people always say, Donelle, that joke that you told, was
Speaker 3: that the truth. I don't lie on stage anything. I say,
Speaker 3: it's really what happened in my life. So that's that.
Speaker 3: If that answers your question, what is this?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 3: It's a gift.
Speaker 4: So we can see what I have a question.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're a sensitive comedian?
Speaker 3: Why is that?
Speaker 2: Because usually comedians being able to take a joke and
Speaker 2: give a joke, but sometimes I feel like, wow, oh.
Speaker 3: Get a close up, get a close up, Yo, get
Speaker 3: a close up look, get it close up.
Speaker 1: You got.
Speaker 3: My greatest moments.
Speaker 7: That is sorry, I appreciate, now understand what me and
Speaker 7: J just don't.
Speaker 1: Have the time.
Speaker 3: I do apologize.
Speaker 1: Pink the pink.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got kill Evans out of Baltimore, guy side
Speaker 3: of Baltimore.
Speaker 1: He did thoughtful gift, but look at it but.
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It wasn't supposed to be thoughtful, supposed
Speaker 3: to I just wanted I want to try to see.
Speaker 2: It's my birthday and I'm gonna I'm gonna wear them
Speaker 2: this weekend.
Speaker 1: These aren't even the same pictures on both of them.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. This is amazing, this is very thought Thank
Speaker 1: you for thinking.
Speaker 4: I thought I saw Diddy on out side of it.
Speaker 2: We would do.
Speaker 1: D he would be on his because he sat between
Speaker 1: Diddy's legs.
Speaker 3: I didn't slip between. I slipped.
Speaker 1: I slipped in the of what oil.
Speaker 3: No I was. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna revisit that.
Speaker 2: That's all. I'm not going to the juice. I thought
Speaker 2: that was hilarious.
Speaker 3: That was Yes, I'm gonna always be insulting to you guys.
Speaker 2: I loved it, actually, mm hmmmm.
Speaker 5: Don't know how frustrating is it?
Speaker 6: Right when people are not taking you serious because you're
Speaker 6: a comedian.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because I really for what we do. I
Speaker 3: don't really want people to take me serious. I want
Speaker 3: them to find me to be funny. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. People take you to that that's not your question, that.
Speaker 1: Your hand, no that's not true. You like to be
Speaker 1: taken serious that you actually get very frustrated when people
Speaker 1: don't take you serious. What makes you think I get
Speaker 1: frustrated because you told me that, when you told me that,
Speaker 1: when you yelled at me over the phone, and I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that you were playing. I thought we were playing,
Speaker 1: and then you were like, no, you don't ever take
Speaker 1: me serious.
Speaker 3: And that's that. That's a horrible impression interview.
Speaker 2: Like every other.
Speaker 3: No, it's a It's a gift and a curse if
Speaker 3: you want to say, you know, because it's times you
Speaker 3: want people to understand that you're serious. But at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, it's a comedian. I don't want
Speaker 3: people to take me that serious. I want people to,
Speaker 3: you know, think I'm funny and laugh at laugh at
Speaker 3: the jokes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but in times when you are really serious, you know,
Speaker 6: like when you were talking about your dad, you know, and.
Speaker 3: You're trying to you're trying to trigger something, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I just want I just said the timing. Sometimes and
Speaker 3: there's times that I have moments and I was having
Speaker 3: a moment that went viral and you laughed and you laughed,
Speaker 3: and I thought that was very insensitive what we laugh
Speaker 3: at when I.
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying. When he had grew up?
Speaker 2: He remember who's laughing at?
Speaker 3: Not laughing? I said, I said, I remember when I
Speaker 3: had I was trying to explain a part of my life.
Speaker 3: And I think that was very insensitive.
Speaker 1: But that's only because we laughed before you got to
Speaker 1: the part about your uncle.
Speaker 3: What about it was about it was about da dad uncle.
Speaker 1: It was that was the part about you know. I
Speaker 1: thought he laughed about your dad passing away another time.
Speaker 1: But the other part, when you were talking about being
Speaker 1: grown up.
Speaker 3: I said, when I grew up, I was trying to
Speaker 3: go back to a story of my childhood and it
Speaker 3: was relating to the relationship that I had with my son.
Speaker 3: And then when I was doing that, that's when y'all left.
Speaker 3: But I you know that, Uh, I've gotten past that brother,
Speaker 3: spend a lot.
Speaker 1: Of time with more than you. Who's your uncle.
Speaker 3: That First of all, my brother, who happened to be
Speaker 3: a part of the letter community, said that the gays
Speaker 3: don't like what is trade? Trade trade.
Speaker 4: He comes off as like not but but he said, but.
Speaker 3: He said, he said, you are not trade.
Speaker 1: Well, yes you're not.
Speaker 3: He said, you're not trade, and nobody is checking for you.
Speaker 1: Trade is a masculine, potentially straight identifying man who engages
Speaker 1: in same sex activity for various benefits like money, our companionship.
Speaker 1: So what I've been told is that I'm not trade.
Speaker 1: I'm actually a butch queen.
Speaker 5: He sounds very trading.
Speaker 3: Hello, whatever, So I have Charlamn here. He had a
Speaker 3: question for you, Chuck.
Speaker 1: Okay, good morning. No so you don't consider me trade? No? No,
Speaker 1: what about what about a butcher queen?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Absolutely, Oh it's better, say absolutely.
Speaker 3: But what is a what is a what is a
Speaker 3: butcher queen? What the kids who called Charlamagne the y ends,
Speaker 3: the y Ends would call them, not the old ones.
Speaker 1: I don't know what down that would be a bear? Right?
Speaker 3: What be? That's every if he said what is he?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't really know what to put the light skinned people. Ah,
Speaker 3: it's a whole different it's a whole different category because
Speaker 3: of your complexion. Yeah, well, I guess what did you say?
Speaker 1: This?
Speaker 3: What are the rule through I'm given him to you? Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm here to listen. What else you wanted you to?
Speaker 3: Just ask me what Charlamayn would not be trained? With
Speaker 3: butcher queen.
Speaker 2: Absolutely Charlamagne on the top of bottom.
Speaker 1: I'm a PowerTOP. Clearly that would be me. I can
Speaker 1: see that, I can see me being flexible. Could you
Speaker 1: leave your brother, Alona, tell.
Speaker 6: Last thing, last thing his brother, I mean, tell your
Speaker 6: brother that he loves doing tricks on the budet.
Speaker 5: What is that, oh.
Speaker 3: Charter man loves doing tricks on the budet? What is
Speaker 3: that being prepared? Being well prepared? And I told him,
Speaker 3: I told him that. I told him that was getway
Speaker 3: the gateway, but the getaway the gate way. But thank
Speaker 3: you for giving me a little bit more acknowledge on
Speaker 3: who this motherfucker really is.
Speaker 1: Thank you any time?
Speaker 5: All right, take it easy.
Speaker 3: I tried to be nice to you. This is what
Speaker 3: I want to say. Why don't know, why don't you
Speaker 3: just shut the fuck up? How about that? Have you
Speaker 3: ever tried that?
Speaker 1: That's a question.
Speaker 3: Can you have your head shut the fuck up? Shut
Speaker 3: the fuck up to.
Speaker 1: Ask you a question about your son?
Speaker 3: That is not a good trans transition, That is not
Speaker 3: a good That was not a question.
Speaker 1: All right? What what if your son watches your career
Speaker 1: years from that? What's the lesson you want him to take?
Speaker 3: Away that his dad tried everything to make uh, to
Speaker 3: make people feel good about themselves. It's so funny because
Speaker 3: my son he knows what I do. This is so interesting.
Speaker 3: One day, it was over the summer. We were talking
Speaker 3: and I don't think he knows like some of the
Speaker 3: things I did, movies and stuff like that. So I
Speaker 3: was like, you know, I said, you know, daddy is
Speaker 3: dadd is somewhat of accomplished act or whatever. He was
Speaker 3: like yeah. So I just started showing him different things
Speaker 3: that I've done.
Speaker 2: What's the first thing you should accomplished?
Speaker 3: I showed her. I showed him a scene with me
Speaker 3: on as the wire. It was a saying when my
Speaker 3: character just got introduced. It was me in the back
Speaker 3: room with Lieutenant Daniels and I'm in there talking trash
Speaker 3: like yo, I would still this, I will still this,
Speaker 3: And I said, my name is Damien Price, but I
Speaker 3: mostly go by day day. And then on the other
Speaker 3: end he says, my name is Daniels, I mostly go
Speaker 3: by lieutenant. Right. So now I find out that it's
Speaker 3: a copy there, right. So I asked my son, I said,
Speaker 3: what do you see in that scene? He said, I
Speaker 3: see somebody that's about to get in trouble me, right,
Speaker 3: He said, Daddy, did you get arrested in that scene?
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, So I'm just thinking as an actor.
Speaker 3: I said, I want to show him the other scene.
Speaker 3: He said, I don't want to see that day. I said,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm an actor. I said, it's not real,
Speaker 3: it's make believe. He said, yeah, but I don't want
Speaker 3: to see my father getting locked up. And I you know,
Speaker 3: I never thought that he's separated. He's like, he knows
Speaker 3: I'm an actor whatever, but he's in no situation. He
Speaker 3: wanted to see me get locked up. And it made
Speaker 3: me think about my father, Like I used to actually
Speaker 3: go visit my father, you know, and where was he
Speaker 3: in Pete Louisbourge Louis in present? Yeah, and I remember,
Speaker 3: this is what you did to me. You see that.
Speaker 3: I'm traumatized. As soon as I say that, I remember,
Speaker 3: as soon as I said, this is what this nigga
Speaker 3: did to me. As soon as I say I remember,
Speaker 3: I felt something traumatized.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you remember going to see your dad in jail? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I streak behind the glass and everything, and I
Speaker 3: thought that was normal. And that's why I don't understand
Speaker 3: how some guys put themself in a position where that
Speaker 3: would be how you fucking not raise your kids or
Speaker 3: be in that situation.
Speaker 1: That's why we gotta start shaming people that's in the street.
Speaker 1: I don't judge people for what they did during survival,
Speaker 1: but we do have to start climing people when they
Speaker 1: doing street stuff that can take them away from their family.
Speaker 3: My father was a perfect example that. My father was
Speaker 3: a heroine Kingspinn in DC some years ago, right, and
Speaker 3: he's been he was he passed away, sorry some time ago, right,
Speaker 3: but but close to the end of his life. Come
Speaker 3: to find out, he was still in the streets. He
Speaker 3: was still selling drugs, and he was selling drugs like
Speaker 3: he was in the seventies. The code words they was using, Yo,
Speaker 3: I'm at the place, how many nuggets do you need?
Speaker 3: Like thirty one hundred, I'm like, how the fund you
Speaker 3: When he passed, my dad was seventy two. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: he was Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But that's when
Speaker 3: when somebody say somebody's a born hustler, it's like, what
Speaker 3: would make you jeopardize your freedom? Relationship? Would you have
Speaker 3: your kids? Some people just built for the streets, and
Speaker 3: that was it was unfortunate. But I'm like, when do
Speaker 3: you stop?
Speaker 2: That relationship? Wasn't it wasn't a close relationship when.
Speaker 3: He passed it was no, we was. We were as
Speaker 3: close as you. I mean he most of my life.
Speaker 3: He was in prison, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: we didn't have I don't have anything bad to say
Speaker 3: about it. We just didn't have that type connection. But
Speaker 3: you know, I was a young boy growing up just
Speaker 3: like one. A relationship with his father didn't exist.
Speaker 2: I had to get him out because you are accomplished,
Speaker 2: you are doing well, to say, Dad, you ain't got
Speaker 2: to do this no more. You can just raise stay
Speaker 2: with me, raise your grandson. You stay with me, or
Speaker 2: push him out the streets or you was just my.
Speaker 3: Dad had too much pride to probably ask anybody for anything.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: You know what's crazy. We see you want to go
Speaker 4: down down now.
Speaker 1: But have you unpacked any of this in therapy because
Speaker 1: she's about to move on and not even care.
Speaker 7: About any No, no, no, it's in relation to what
Speaker 7: he's talking about his dad.
Speaker 1: Have you unpacked any of them? No?
Speaker 3: I mean I haven't unpacked it in therapy. I don't
Speaker 3: know if I need therapy for that. I just look
Speaker 3: at I look at my father, and I use that
Speaker 3: as an example of what I don't want to do
Speaker 3: with my son. That's why one of the things with
Speaker 3: my son, I always like, make memories, make memories. So
Speaker 3: I've instelled that in him, and then I just remember
Speaker 3: when I do things with him, when I take my
Speaker 3: son on the river, when I do trips and everything,
Speaker 3: it just reminds me of things I didn't do with
Speaker 3: my dad, and it makes me want to be more
Speaker 3: aggressively in my my I was like, even though me
Speaker 3: and Stephanie out together, like I'm like actively, like I'm
Speaker 3: involved with my son life. Anybody to follow me? They
Speaker 3: know that. Anybody know that know me? Know you want
Speaker 3: to hug right now, I don't want to hug.
Speaker 1: Did you let your son see your greatest role? Since
Speaker 1: you are an accomplished actor, did you let him see
Speaker 1: your greatest role ever?
Speaker 3: What you considered to be my greatest role ever?
Speaker 1: When you played uh, the Pizza Heights Guy Spider Man
Speaker 1: Part two, The Pizza Heights.
Speaker 3: That wasn't my greatest role, but it was for for
Speaker 3: for a kid to be a part of that.
Speaker 2: Probably see it.
Speaker 3: So it's, ah, what's the Spider Man nigga name man? Yeah, Toby,
Speaker 3: Like he's working for this piece of company, right, and
Speaker 3: every day he's delivering these pizzas. He's late. He's late,
Speaker 3: and then they tell him, they said, yo, if you
Speaker 3: if you, if you're late one more time, you're going
Speaker 3: to get fired for your job. So he's driving down
Speaker 3: the street, you know what I mean, he looked at
Speaker 3: the clock. He's gonna be late. So he gets off
Speaker 3: the bike, he goes in the alley and then he
Speaker 3: comes back as Spider Man with a pizza box and
Speaker 3: he's like, whoa, he stole that guy's pizzad I've always
Speaker 3: let me tell you, no, let me tell you something
Speaker 3: interesting story about that. When I got that role for
Speaker 3: a Spider Man, they do what you call audition, it's
Speaker 3: called reaction audition. Like they'll just give you a scenario.
Speaker 3: They'll just be like this, you're in the elevator, Spider
Speaker 3: Man comes in there. How are you gonna respond? You
Speaker 3: walking down the street, how are you gonna respond? They
Speaker 3: audition you and just see what your improv reaction is
Speaker 3: going to be. So when I before I got that roll,
Speaker 3: it was. That was some years ago. I was supposed
Speaker 3: to do Man on the Street for BT Awards, right,
Speaker 3: and at that time, from my generation of comments, it
Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of opportunities, so being a part of
Speaker 3: BT anything, it was a big deal. So I was
Speaker 3: excited that I was going to be this Man on
Speaker 3: the Street guy. The guy who was directing it, he
Speaker 3: wanted me. But the producers were still got you about it.
Speaker 3: So you know, we had talked, We had talked and
Speaker 3: up until Friday. That Friday we did a wardrobe. I
Speaker 3: had got a wardrobe fitting and all that, and I
Speaker 3: was supposed to go to work that Saturday morning for BT.
Speaker 3: I get a call at night and they said the
Speaker 3: producers wanted to go in a different direction. They was
Speaker 3: like the road that I thought I was gonna have
Speaker 3: the Man on the Street it just disappeared. And this
Speaker 3: was like not even I mean within twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: So I wasn't fucking with BT. I was like they'd
Speaker 3: be on some bullshit. I was upset about that. Then
Speaker 3: the next morning I get a call from my manager
Speaker 3: and he said, we got a call from the Spider
Speaker 3: Man team. They want you to come to work, right,
Speaker 3: and that was so crazy. And the crazy thing about
Speaker 3: it was where the location where I was supposed to
Speaker 3: do the BT situation. It was literally right around the
Speaker 3: corner from the Spider Man set. So I had to
Speaker 3: walk past the BT set and Niggas was looking at
Speaker 3: me like, did anybody tell me?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 3: I walked past, and Sam Rainy he came up to me.
Speaker 3: He said, Downhill your you're my favorite actor in New York. Well,
Speaker 3: you're the only actor I know in New York. And
Speaker 3: what they do is I didn't know what I was
Speaker 3: going to do. He's got a stick right here with
Speaker 3: an X on it, he said, he tells you the situation.
Speaker 3: He said, So, Donille, this is this is uh Toby right.
Speaker 3: He goes through the alley that he does like this
Speaker 3: to see your eyeline, he said, and he comes out
Speaker 3: as Spider Man. He said, what are you going to say?
Speaker 3: And I just said, whoa, He's told God's Pizza And
Speaker 3: that was then improval line and he kept and the
Speaker 3: rest of the day that's all he kept saying for
Speaker 3: the rest of that So it just worked. It was
Speaker 3: It's funny how one situation got shut down and it
Speaker 3: opened up because nobody would have remembered me doing a
Speaker 3: Man on the Street stuff for BT. But I go
Speaker 3: down to history being a part of that brand, and
Speaker 3: I had one line, but it.
Speaker 1: Was because of that one appearance in Spider Man two.
Speaker 3: I didn't get any cheeks from it, but I made
Speaker 3: my friend's kids very happy. Like one of my friends,
Speaker 3: it was a funny because you know, dad's always gonna
Speaker 3: try to be proud. My friend, Brooklyn Mike right the time.
Speaker 3: His daughter was young at the time, and he said,
Speaker 3: you know, uh, my daughter said, can daddy, can you
Speaker 3: introduce me to Spider Man? Can Donnelle introduced me to
Speaker 3: Spider Man? And of course he been a dad, he said, well,
Speaker 3: you know, I know Spider Man too, and his daughter
Speaker 3: looked at him and said, I know. But Donelle worked
Speaker 3: with Spider Man. So anytime I got to flex for
Speaker 3: kids or whatever like that. But I never got no.
Speaker 1: Absolutely any of these stories happen because there's one little
Speaker 1: line of Spider Man too.
Speaker 4: I believed adjacent you got.
Speaker 3: Nega Spider Man that what you know over that was
Speaker 3: I probably got about two three thousand dollars or even
Speaker 3: with the royalties and a no. I mean it constantly comes.
Speaker 3: But after a while. You know, it's not like crazy amount,
Speaker 3: but you get paid a little.
Speaker 2: Say.
Speaker 3: I'm just said, do you feel.
Speaker 1: That the industry rewards the comedians who take risk or
Speaker 1: the ones who play in safe.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the industry that uh that that
Speaker 3: is the connection. It's the audience, you know, it's the audience.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day. All were trying to
Speaker 3: do is build a fan. We could be in film
Speaker 3: and TV all all we want, but real for real comedian.
Speaker 3: That's a real comedian. At the end of the day.
Speaker 3: Your biggest concern Can I put my name on the
Speaker 3: market and can people come and check me out telling jokes?
Speaker 3: So I don't get caught up in what the industry does.
Speaker 3: I'm a part of the industry, but I make a
Speaker 3: living without it. If I don't ever get another film
Speaker 3: or TV gave for the rest of my life the
Speaker 3: fact that I can make money telling the jokes, it's
Speaker 3: a win.
Speaker 1: So I look at like that you're telling jokes this weekend.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah at the stress factor.
Speaker 3: Yes, speak speaking of stress factory. I don't trust your face.
Speaker 3: I'm just say, it's just like you holding back. It's
Speaker 3: like your face is holding back some type of negativity.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing about it is that let's get
Speaker 3: let's get to the real Let's get to the real deal.
Speaker 3: Let's get to the Let's get to the real deal.
Speaker 3: This is not how you talk to me. Off off.
Speaker 3: You called me for advice? Do you not? Do you not?
Speaker 3: Do we have conversations? Do we have conversations? When you
Speaker 3: told me, you said, Donnie, I want to invest with money,
Speaker 3: you told me you you said you wanted to open
Speaker 3: up a gate club in South Coloinia.
Speaker 1: Comedy club.
Speaker 3: You know, you said the gay comedy You said, because
Speaker 3: the cocks. You said, the cocks are strong down you said,
Speaker 3: the Cox is popping down there in South Carolina. Yeah,
Speaker 3: to get whatever Cox is copped.
Speaker 1: And you club funny would be dope for a gay
Speaker 1: comedy club.
Speaker 3: But I don't know how to say this. Man. I'm
Speaker 3: sick of you. Man, I'm really sick of you.
Speaker 1: Would you like a biscuit?
Speaker 3: I don't want if what I'm telling you?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: No, I'm good. I'm good on that. You know know
Speaker 3: that got some skeep magic what you're doing. Nah, I'm good,
Speaker 3: I'm possible.
Speaker 2: Look, hey, sir, now you've been in the game for
Speaker 2: a long time. What keeps you motivated to still hit
Speaker 2: the stage? What motivates Donelle and what makes Donell laugh
Speaker 2: at this time?
Speaker 3: Bill's motivate me to go on stage? Yeah, but it
Speaker 3: just I really, after thirty plus years, I still enjoy
Speaker 3: what I do. You know what I'm saying. You got
Speaker 3: a couple of people to go to a show. It's
Speaker 3: speakle that need to laugh and the people that want
Speaker 3: to laugh. When I do a show and people come
Speaker 3: up to me and they're like, you know what, I
Speaker 3: was having a bad day, I lost my honor or
Speaker 3: something I didn't expect to go out. Everybody said, come
Speaker 3: out and enjoy yourself. And when I talk to those
Speaker 3: people and the like, you remove me from the things
Speaker 3: that I was dealing with, you know, for at least
Speaker 3: forty five minutes. That's what kind of gives me motivated
Speaker 3: to do it. And every year I try to evolve
Speaker 3: and get better. I really, really genuinely enjoy what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Are you chasing legacy or chasing checks?
Speaker 3: Don I'm not. I'm definitely always going to chase checks
Speaker 3: because that's what I do. But I don't know what
Speaker 3: my legacy will be. You never know you think people can, well,
Speaker 3: you don't never know people like this wheld we live
Speaker 3: in now, People gonna talk shit about anything. As much
Speaker 3: as you try to do the right thing, it's always
Speaker 3: going to be some negative energy. And as long as
Speaker 3: we try to not focus on that, we've.
Speaker 2: Been because you're quick to respond to negative energy, negative
Speaker 2: things said to you, and it seems like you're the
Speaker 2: person that continues to do it, which keeps the motion continuing.
Speaker 3: It's hard for me. It's the hardest thing. And it's
Speaker 3: easy for you to say you just don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: It's hard not to give a fuck. So it really is.
Speaker 3: And to certain I'm getting a little stronger with that.
Speaker 3: But at some point you like, you comments, I shouldn't
Speaker 3: be in the comments, but you've reading the comments and everything.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, this ship is popping, this feels good.
Speaker 3: Feel And then it's that one person that could throw
Speaker 3: you off, You know, one person you like, how don't
Speaker 3: why don't you feel like everybody else feel? But I
Speaker 3: realized social media is just a it's just a playground
Speaker 3: for people to be negative and nasty. You just realizing
Speaker 3: that today no, not today, no, not today. I'm just
Speaker 3: it's just it's a.
Speaker 1: Constant thing your therapists about why these comments bother you? Like,
Speaker 1: why everything gotta be about unpacking trigger triggering everything?
Speaker 3: I don't want to unpack. Why the fun is that?
Speaker 3: The new word? Is it?
Speaker 1: Comedian people?
Speaker 3: Do you get like when you do therapists? Do you
Speaker 3: get words of the day, like you have to use
Speaker 3: calm down? I'm not upset.
Speaker 1: Do you want to hold down? Yo? You do?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 3: I don't want to? You do know that, you do
Speaker 3: know what you're doing, right, you do know what you're doing.
Speaker 3: You're fucking breathe.
Speaker 1: Regular people that do this to you. Other comedians.
Speaker 3: No, comedians don't fuck with me. No, don't. They don't.
Speaker 3: They don't like him.
Speaker 2: He means they don't like him. Commedians don't like him,
Speaker 2: He says, they won't.
Speaker 3: Say it to me. Yes, well no, when tell me us?
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring up old I don't want
Speaker 1: to rehashow.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But what I'm saying is anybody can be boisterous online,
Speaker 3: but like face to face, it's a whole different story.
Speaker 3: And you get me an example of anybody that had
Speaker 3: an issue with me, had had brought it to my face.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I would love you don't want to. I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about it. No, this is a good time
Speaker 1: for you to unpack.
Speaker 3: No, I won't believe it will well? Well, hold, you
Speaker 3: try to start some ship with nas J when you
Speaker 3: called me, you try to make it seem like I
Speaker 3: called it something like that, and I got nothing but
Speaker 3: respect for you.
Speaker 5: Tried to you try to start, You start in beef?
Speaker 5: What comedians?
Speaker 3: Now, unpack it?
Speaker 1: That's not what happened.
Speaker 5: What is he talking about? You started something between him
Speaker 5: and Jay?
Speaker 1: What's something? What's something you learned about yourself recently that
Speaker 1: surprised you?
Speaker 3: Nothing? I don't be learning it about myself. Nothing, that's
Speaker 3: the problem.
Speaker 2: But if you weren't a comedian, what would you be
Speaker 2: doing right now?
Speaker 3: I will probably be I wanted to be a car first.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be an architect, but I wasn't that
Speaker 3: nice and math, so I'll like, that's not gonna be
Speaker 3: a good thing. Then I would have probably been a carpenter.
Speaker 3: You'd be a chef. I yeah, I would have been.
Speaker 3: I would have been definitely something something blue collar, for sure.
Speaker 3: You don't think you've been a chef. I would have
Speaker 3: been a chef. I wouldn't have been a Sioux chef.
Speaker 5: Does somebody give carpenter Lauren?
Speaker 7: They just they got stories, They got a toolbox they
Speaker 7: walk around with they they come in your house.
Speaker 3: How blue collar get the most? You want to know
Speaker 3: who fo daughters in the community. Uh, I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3: Football coaches and handyman handy man. I know, Uh, football
Speaker 3: coaches and handyman football coach, especially in the inner city
Speaker 3: because there's so many fatherless kids out there. Coach Johnson
Speaker 3: is fucking all of the mothers just because they spend
Speaker 3: time to do kids.
Speaker 1: Coach that amazing. Yeah, I mean that's not a real name,
Speaker 1: but I just put it out there, Richard. What Johnson
Speaker 1: out there just fucking everyone? The others children?
Speaker 6: When you look at the state of comedy today, right,
Speaker 6: the climate of comedy, right, what pisses you off?
Speaker 5: And what makes you proud?
Speaker 2: Great question?
Speaker 3: Yes, nothing, nothing pisces me off. I used to not
Speaker 3: understand certain things, and I would just say that, for example,
Speaker 3: like I've been doing it for a very long time,
Speaker 3: people that haven't been doing as long as I have,
Speaker 3: like yourself, you came along, you had different tools to
Speaker 3: advance yourself. You know, It's like a lot of the
Speaker 3: older comments, well they're on social media whatever. But those
Speaker 3: are tools that exist, Those are tools that they they
Speaker 3: sharpen their toolbox to do that. But I do say
Speaker 3: with that, with all the success like some young comedies get,
Speaker 3: like like in the moment, I would really appreciate if
Speaker 3: people took the art form of stand up to be
Speaker 3: good at it and that just like, Okay, I got
Speaker 3: this fire, is a fame, whatever, people come to see me,
Speaker 3: but really give a fuck about being a dope stand up.
Speaker 1: Do you think social media comedians are watering down the
Speaker 1: art form.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't say watering down. It's comedy. It's evolving the definition.
Speaker 3: I remember some years ago I was talking to this
Speaker 3: girl and she was like this, I'm a comedian. I said,
Speaker 3: let me see some of the stuff. She said, I'm
Speaker 3: on YouTube, and she said if she started showing me
Speaker 3: some skills, I said, that's not a comedian. She said, yes,
Speaker 3: it is. Because when I think of the idea of commedian,
Speaker 3: I think of stand up and stand up. But if
Speaker 3: you really look at the definition of comedian, it says
Speaker 3: one who entertains an audience through humor. So what used
Speaker 3: to be the definition of a comedian, it has changed
Speaker 3: and it's evolved.
Speaker 1: Wasn't a comedy? Why wasn't What wasn't a comedy? By
Speaker 1: your logic, that makes no sense.
Speaker 3: I don't understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And you said, she showed you sketches, and you said,
Speaker 1: this isn't comedy. No stand up?
Speaker 3: No, no, no no, Because when she said comedian, I
Speaker 3: was just thinking stand up comedian, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: not thinking that just somebody making media. Yeah, it could
Speaker 3: be a sketch comedian, but that's say that.
Speaker 5: She just said she was a comedian. In his mind
Speaker 5: automatically reverted.
Speaker 3: It went to like stand up, but she's a comedic actor.
Speaker 3: Whatever you do.
Speaker 7: Those comedians you talk about get their stripes, then, like,
Speaker 7: what is it that they do, because not everybody that
Speaker 7: is online does stand up?
Speaker 3: Where do you get they stripe A lot of people.
Speaker 3: They first off, they want to know how they can
Speaker 3: get some more money. You know what I'm saying, It's
Speaker 3: like this, Okay, I got this fan base. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. People follow me, they see me doing sketches,
Speaker 3: but I want to turn that into something else. So
Speaker 3: eventually it turns into you doing stand up because house
Speaker 3: if are you going to get the other check if
Speaker 3: you don't go go go perform? So it just it
Speaker 3: just turns into that, I have my hand up. Can
Speaker 3: I ask a question? I don't know what it is,
Speaker 3: but I just don't trust you, man, Just a question.
Speaker 2: I'm having a real commisation trusted you.
Speaker 1: You need to really impact that.
Speaker 2: I'm just asking.
Speaker 1: In this little career that you had.
Speaker 2: You know, you've done stand up, you've done skits, you've
Speaker 2: done comedy, you've done TV, you've done more than radio.
Speaker 2: Out of all the things that you did, what would
Speaker 2: you say is your biggest mistake that you've ever made
Speaker 2: that you think back and like that was wrong or
Speaker 2: I apologize.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what my biggest mistake was the first
Speaker 3: time I ever came on this show.
Speaker 1: Why do you feel that way?
Speaker 3: Because look at what this created, It's created monster. I
Speaker 3: gotta come up here, I gotta look at you. I
Speaker 3: gotta worry about unpacking ship with this nigga over here.
Speaker 3: And then wherever I go, people like, well you let
Speaker 3: would you like that? And I don't. That's probably the
Speaker 3: biggest mistake in my career was actually coming up here.
Speaker 4: Keep coming back.
Speaker 1: I got, first of all, we don't funk with you
Speaker 1: like that's that is such a false narrative.
Speaker 5: So why wouldy'allt him come up heref y'all don't funk
Speaker 5: with him?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no, I mean like, we don't
Speaker 1: funk with him. That nobody messages with donell Oh you think.
Speaker 3: You love I don't even I used to like you.
Speaker 3: I didn't notice, I wouldn't. I was, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think it's the thing.
Speaker 3: When I come in here, I don't know what they expect.
Speaker 4: Start well beyond measure chains.
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice, thank you.
Speaker 4: He knows true fashion. You don't get a sweater.
Speaker 2: Another question, when you were in the Air Force, right
Speaker 2: and you were stationed in South Korea, what.
Speaker 3: Did you mean by that?
Speaker 5: What did you I like your sweater?
Speaker 4: It's what what did you What did you.
Speaker 2: Learn in South Korea that you still use in today's Trust?
Speaker 3: Trust nothing but button in this Chris. But what was
Speaker 3: what you say?
Speaker 1: What I said?
Speaker 2: When you were stationed in South Korea in the military,
Speaker 2: what did you learn there that you still use in
Speaker 2: today's business or in comedy.
Speaker 3: It was a phrase, and I'm saying in Korean, pog
Speaker 3: o mayo?
Speaker 5: What do that mean?
Speaker 3: How much for the pussy?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 5: Pogi o mayo?
Speaker 3: Pogi o mayo?
Speaker 2: So you bought vagina in Korea South Koreba.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't buy it, but I need Did you
Speaker 3: know that because it was a phrase, pog o mayo?
Speaker 3: You had to know that if you have to know
Speaker 3: that if you weren't buying them, Okay, all right. I
Speaker 3: was eighteen years old and I was over there station
Speaker 3: in their career. I was eighteen years old. I was
Speaker 3: on a remote base. A remote base means that for
Speaker 3: every for every one female, she has fifteen or twenty
Speaker 3: guys to choose from. And I wasn't in nobody top five,
Speaker 3: So I had to learn how to say pogi.
Speaker 7: On my other Your issues don't come from the breakfast club.
Speaker 7: They started back when you were over there, and you were,
Speaker 7: but I didn't.
Speaker 3: But I had a girlfriend over there. But is it
Speaker 3: true called yobo? It's called yo yobo? Is like a
Speaker 3: girlfriend for a year?
Speaker 8: Is it like?
Speaker 3: Is didn't have like a reglar lady? Pretty much?
Speaker 1: Boys?
Speaker 3: Is that I didn't traffick her. I was in the country.
Speaker 1: You leased the lady?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can lease some yobo.
Speaker 2: Was she fool lady?
Speaker 3: Yeah she was.
Speaker 4: She had to think about it.
Speaker 3: I have to think about everything on this show because
Speaker 3: I don't know the energy and where it's coming from.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I had a relation. I was in a
Speaker 3: relationship over I thought so for a year?
Speaker 4: You thought so?
Speaker 1: How much did you pay the Lisa?
Speaker 3: Did Miles matter?
Speaker 1: It's a great question, did miles matter? Was she a
Speaker 1: hole there and you didn't know?
Speaker 3: No, she was a whole. She was a yobo. What's that?
Speaker 3: That just your partner for a years, somebody to take
Speaker 3: care of you and make sure you're all right and
Speaker 3: make sure you get all the all all your needs
Speaker 3: taken care of. But she wasn't a lady boy, No,
Speaker 3: she wasn't a label. That's what I was asking.
Speaker 6: Do you have any favorite comedians these days? Like any
Speaker 6: any newcomers and you got any favorites the internet that
Speaker 6: you'd like to look at.
Speaker 3: One of my guys is here right now, Adrian Washington.
Speaker 3: He just had uh he did the bucket pull on
Speaker 3: kill Tony Show. I've been working with him for like
Speaker 3: a year. I think he was voted in Minneapolistes one
Speaker 3: time because we.
Speaker 1: We we we we loted out your podcast host, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Roberts one time. And he's been sitting here for forty
Speaker 2: minutes because.
Speaker 1: We know what we do. Ignore each other.
Speaker 3: No, it'll be the right time for it.
Speaker 1: Ignore each other.
Speaker 3: It's the collective. I started this new thing. I realized
Speaker 3: that I've been I've had a lot of influence in
Speaker 3: this business. I know a lot of people, and I said,
Speaker 3: you know, uh, I wanted to do something where I
Speaker 3: got a group of creatives that we come together, we
Speaker 3: have like creative retreats. Uh, we create content and we
Speaker 3: pretty much hit all types of areas in this business.
Speaker 3: And I was like, instead of it's not like I
Speaker 3: represent anybody, but you have a group of people and
Speaker 3: it's going to I'm going to start this thing. It's
Speaker 3: a raw edge collective where we come together as a crew.
Speaker 3: And if somebody's like, oh, we need somebody to chore
Speaker 3: choreograph this dance routine. But the first thing I'm thinking
Speaker 3: about is Javanta. You know, huh, why do you need
Speaker 3: choreographed dance routines? Yeah, I'm not saying for myself. I'm
Speaker 3: saying if somebody had a situation like that, I'm going
Speaker 3: to be a TikTok sensation.
Speaker 1: You'll see, you'll see.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: You said you influenced people. What have you influenced people
Speaker 2: stealing your stuff? If that's me?
Speaker 3: No, Like I've helped a lot of comics. I've helped
Speaker 3: a lot of comics get to certain levels.
Speaker 1: Why don't they give you credit?
Speaker 3: That's just part of the business. Well, I mean they don't.
Speaker 1: Get their credit. Like Dave gets his credit all the time,
Speaker 1: rockets credit all the time. People you know, like those
Speaker 1: guys get their credit. Why don't did Donnelle rolland get
Speaker 1: his credit? If you're helping people.
Speaker 3: Like this, it happens sometimes sometimes people say thank you,
Speaker 3: Uh times they don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never heard that Kevin Harg gets his credit.
Speaker 4: Who have you helped?
Speaker 1: Good question?
Speaker 3: A lot of people know who who? Right? I do
Speaker 3: want to talk about it because then I don't want
Speaker 3: to talk.
Speaker 5: He helps me all the time. It gives me great advice.
Speaker 1: I call him.
Speaker 3: I had a group of years ago. I'm sorry, it's
Speaker 3: hard for me to stay focused.
Speaker 1: Just I'm sorry that raised their hands and saying help.
Speaker 6: That's all I'm saying, you just helped me, you know,
Speaker 6: just giving me inspiration and you know, mentoring me and
Speaker 6: things like that.
Speaker 5: Just great advice.
Speaker 3: I appreciate.
Speaker 1: Forget you're one of the best. You're one of the
Speaker 1: best stand up comedians that I really, I.
Speaker 3: Really, I really I appreciate you. And I said all
Speaker 3: the time, and I probably repeat myself. I remember years
Speaker 3: ago you had reached out to me in a DM
Speaker 3: and this was when you was first starting. The only
Speaker 3: thing you want to know is like what I need
Speaker 3: to do? And I didn't. I didn't give you. I
Speaker 3: don't think I gave you any advice I.
Speaker 1: Might have said.
Speaker 3: I think I might have said get on stage. I
Speaker 3: think I might say get on stage. Everything you're going
Speaker 3: to learn is going to be from them, from what
Speaker 3: you do as a performer. And it's interesting because I
Speaker 3: know people go at you or whatever, right, And the
Speaker 3: thing that fucks me up the most, like if you
Speaker 3: don't respect anything about you, respect your hustle. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like people think it's easier. I know
Speaker 3: you get it all the time. Oh, because she got
Speaker 3: these followers, But those followers just don't come out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: They come from putting the work in. I've seen you.
Speaker 3: I seen you grow as a stand up when we
Speaker 3: just did that show where were we.
Speaker 5: Were when Californ Sacramento.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was like, I was like, why don't
Speaker 3: they talk about this? You know what I'm saying. I've
Speaker 3: seen you captivate the audience, did the way you acted.
Speaker 3: You just had that orders in the palm you had,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I know you get a lot of
Speaker 3: dumb ship, but I look at you like this is
Speaker 3: an example of somebody when you work hard as something
Speaker 3: and you put the work and you'll get the results.
Speaker 3: You know. So I always shout y'all, even not even
Speaker 3: when ship is happening, you know, I just call you like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't have any more questions. I don't think this
Speaker 3: went the way I wanted why.
Speaker 1: I was just just walked my attention of comment that
Speaker 1: somebody posted you were on kill Tony. I was yesterday
Speaker 1: with Rob Snyder, nice and me and.
Speaker 3: I went back.
Speaker 5: Made up everything made up.
Speaker 3: We know, I never had an issue with kill Tony.
Speaker 1: It was really bad for you on there.
Speaker 3: At one point it wasn't bad. It was you got
Speaker 3: booed and nigga, what are you talking about. I didn't
Speaker 3: get booed on kill Tony. I got on roads battlest get.
Speaker 1: You walked off and kill Tony.
Speaker 3: I removed my negative motherfucker situation that guy was. I
Speaker 3: didn't say I had a gout the walk the job,
Speaker 3: please stop.
Speaker 1: You walked off because the guy was killing you so bad.
Speaker 1: I did not want what happened? You read move that time.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Gavanta, what happened? I didn't come here, gavan
Speaker 1: to come to the mic.
Speaker 4: He crashed out?
Speaker 1: What what happened? Okay? So why did you want? If
Speaker 1: you need I just don't.
Speaker 8: I just don't want to come on here and act
Speaker 8: like I love you so much.
Speaker 3: You helped me as well. He's a great representation if
Speaker 3: you need help.
Speaker 1: And not last night, but the time before when he
Speaker 1: walked off.
Speaker 8: Well, he has a tendency to crash out.
Speaker 5: And so at that point was at the point he
Speaker 5: was already gone. He was already gone.
Speaker 2: Look at me and jests okay, he was they gone
Speaker 2: and he walked up.
Speaker 1: Happened at the last one, the last tape, because there's
Speaker 1: really negative comments that I'm about to read.
Speaker 8: Killed this last night.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he killed it, killed it was, there was nothing
Speaker 5: wrong with it.
Speaker 1: There's a comment that says, Donnelle Rawlings branded comedy is
Speaker 1: so bad to me, like watching a train wreck. Charlomagne
Speaker 1: is gonna have a field day tomorrow.
Speaker 5: D Esus, wow, jesus.
Speaker 3: But see, those are your type of people. They're negative.
Speaker 3: Nothing negative, You're they're negative. Those are your type.
Speaker 1: You love that nothing to do.
Speaker 3: You went through everything, you went through, every showed.
Speaker 4: Me this, and then all I did was your name
Speaker 4: and it was top of the I didn't even.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: I was type your name it on X and and
Speaker 4: it just was like probably like top three tweets.
Speaker 2: At least he didn't get booed. He didn't get booed. Again,
Speaker 2: that's the that's the moment stage. Okay, I don't like
Speaker 2: him them, Okay.
Speaker 3: The thing is I did kill Tony some years ago,
Speaker 3: yes five years ago actually, and I was on that
Speaker 3: stage for two and a half hours and I had
Speaker 3: something to do, and I told Tony, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to be here forever long time. It's a very very
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: A sushi date.
Speaker 3: I just didn't have a sushi date. It was one
Speaker 3: of those sushi spots where it takes a year to
Speaker 3: get a reservation. They sit six or eight people. It's
Speaker 3: not like going to sushi Sombo Sushi stopped like to go.
Speaker 3: It was one of it. I don't even know the
Speaker 3: name of it. It's a speakeasy joint. I wish I
Speaker 3: would feel bad that it's It's one of the best
Speaker 3: places in Austin, Texas. I had to go. And what
Speaker 3: happened was they did a video where they showed me
Speaker 3: having going at with this comic. If you look at
Speaker 3: the video, you'll see it's one shot one comedian, it's
Speaker 3: another shot. So they edit.
Speaker 2: I know you explained the last time.
Speaker 1: You know. If you're explaining, you're losing. I just want
Speaker 1: you to know that. No, no, it does this comment
Speaker 1: right here says what do you say? It says somebody
Speaker 1: named allegedly Drew. I don't know who that is. You
Speaker 1: have to check. Mark said you were hilarious, but Donnelle
Speaker 1: Rawlings is the worst guest I've ever seen. Stereotypes are
Speaker 1: so real. That's what you said.
Speaker 3: But that But the thing is that base and I
Speaker 3: will say Tony has created a platform for people to
Speaker 3: get on. That's one of the biggest YouTube shows. Whatever
Speaker 3: but the people that watch that, they just like they
Speaker 3: just they are a lot of them. I say seventy
Speaker 3: five percent of people. They are trolls. They live for
Speaker 3: moments like that. They live to try to get on
Speaker 3: your skin, and they do every time.
Speaker 4: Does the troll will never get on your nurse. So
Speaker 4: it does. You said they do.
Speaker 3: Sometimes, but I'm getting better. Do you want to ignore it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: I don't want to hug.
Speaker 5: Well, I love you.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I want.
Speaker 6: You have shows a distress factory Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 5: Six shows.
Speaker 3: It's two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, and one show
Speaker 3: on something I do well in that club. I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure it will sell out out.
Speaker 2: Before you became a BA talk about this.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's Gary always fuck is y'all. I don't
Speaker 3: give a fuck.
Speaker 4: Rapper came out, y'all.
Speaker 3: Yeah somewhere I'll give the so what fuck them all's?
Speaker 3: You sell your tickets away, You sell your tickets, and
Speaker 3: I will sell my tickets away. I sell my tickets
Speaker 3: like the next.
Speaker 1: Question, like the new fashion forward?
Speaker 3: My fashion never been backwards. Niggas, You don't want to
Speaker 3: need a stylist, nigga, do you ever look at the
Speaker 3: pictures at you?
Speaker 4: Do you ever look at youlas?
Speaker 1: I like the fashion forward done that.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you doing.
Speaker 1: Yes, you dress like August I feed a boyfriend at
Speaker 1: the bottom, cool teacher.
Speaker 3: The fact that you have all these gay references just
Speaker 3: ready anything gay. You got a whole speech about that
Speaker 3: ship top bottom. You don't even say pause and pause situations, sir.
Speaker 3: That's how free you are with yourself. You would just
Speaker 3: let it go, and you are you were only they
Speaker 3: gotta know what un pause or pause.
Speaker 1: Do you think comedians are afraid to joke about sexuality
Speaker 1: because they're scared of how people will label them.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty yeah. One thousand. They are scared to talk
Speaker 3: about That's why you in touch with yourself. That's why
Speaker 3: when people call you and it's me it's fruity tooty
Speaker 3: or booty bandits, which I'll do, it don't affect you
Speaker 3: because you in touch with your sexuality, booty tot rudio,
Speaker 3: whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Do you think black men in comedy get boxed into
Speaker 1: certain stereotypes about masculinity and sexuality more than others?
Speaker 3: One hundred. I believe, But I also believe that you
Speaker 3: know that people's way of thinking have evolved. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, you know, black men period are
Speaker 3: just for the most part, naturally homophobic, but now.
Speaker 1: We live not true. Don't generalize all black men like that.
Speaker 1: You just gave me props for being in touch with
Speaker 1: my sexuality, so don't label all black men as being homophobic.
Speaker 3: You're not a regular niggatos. So he does his eyebrows.
Speaker 1: No, I don't, Yes, you definitely do. You know what.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that you just naturally wake up, which
Speaker 4: I don't get mad.
Speaker 1: At me because you gotta feel your other than everyoneing.
Speaker 3: Wow, But I just think I just think the way
Speaker 3: people think it's totally different. Now at some point you
Speaker 3: gotta be like, who gives a fuck? You just keep
Speaker 3: it moving.
Speaker 1: What's the wid is assumption people have ever made about
Speaker 1: you and your sexuality and how did you handle it?
Speaker 3: I've never had no wild situations by my sex reality.
Speaker 2: That's a lie. Pictures somebody throld you, uh, somebody thought
Speaker 2: you a game before.
Speaker 3: I don't know who that could be.
Speaker 1: Where'd you find.
Speaker 3: I've been doing? I'm sorry, I've been knowing her for
Speaker 3: how long we've been doing? Your twenty something. Yeah, she was.
Speaker 3: She was working for this internet what's popp and what
Speaker 3: was the name of that show? Yeah, she was a
Speaker 3: host of it. She was very young. And how did
Speaker 3: we reconnect that to that?
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 6: At a comedy show and John Rawlins heckled your date figure.
Speaker 1: How you got Oh? So he was with an ugly
Speaker 1: dude with the comedy on the hollow when somebody did that?
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 5: And then Javansa got to.
Speaker 3: Talk to her. I hope so career, no, no, let
Speaker 3: me explain something.
Speaker 5: She was a s no effort. Key, can you sit the.
Speaker 3: Just sit on the couch for a second.
Speaker 1: Do you remember you remember some of your moves?
Speaker 2: Hold on, let's let's give her own Mike, show.
Speaker 1: Me one move that move over a missy move withra move.
Speaker 1: You got to sit over there, yes, Javana Roberts right, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, back that's down there for joining us.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is this is what I'm saying, this is
Speaker 3: the legend. I'm not patrick to back then, I'm not
Speaker 3: this can I just want to be clear. This is
Speaker 3: part of the collective giving people opportunities and microphone I.
Speaker 1: Know you called it about her.
Speaker 8: Tackling me at the at the.
Speaker 3: First of all, Wait, no, no, no, let me no, no,
Speaker 3: let me say. A lot of people I wanted to say,
Speaker 3: I'm saying part of the collective, like you said, of
Speaker 3: course you invited her to the mic. I invited her
Speaker 3: to the show. That's how the collect.
Speaker 1: Didn't even introduce her when you walked because the reason
Speaker 1: why I didn't go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, good mantas.
Speaker 8: You know what a part of a part of what
Speaker 8: people don't see about Donnell. He's so altruistic.
Speaker 2: He's so giving.
Speaker 3: No, he's giving.
Speaker 8: He's done so much behind the scenes, and we don't
Speaker 8: really get to see that part of him.
Speaker 3: So I appreciate so much.
Speaker 8: Over the last fifteen years or so, I've learned so
Speaker 8: much about work ethic. He's like one of the hardest,
Speaker 8: hardest working comedians I know.
Speaker 1: And said, he said, he said.
Speaker 2: He was what altruistic?
Speaker 1: That means showing a disinterest and selfless concern for the
Speaker 1: well being of others.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, he's selfish.
Speaker 1: I'm selfish. Okay.
Speaker 8: Ok he's giving like he'll give he selfless, he'll give
Speaker 8: the last like the last thread of the last thing. Okay,
Speaker 8: So I was yeah, I was on a date, and
Speaker 8: the day got nervous because after he was heckling the day,
Speaker 8: I had mentioned that I wanted to do stand up
Speaker 8: to what do you say to the date? He was like,
Speaker 8: you know, how did you how did you get her?
Speaker 8: Like how did you end up with her? And he's like, oh,
Speaker 8: she wanted to stand up. So then Donald brought me
Speaker 8: on the stage, but he didn't remember that I'd already
Speaker 8: interviewed him. So cut to I got on a stage.
Speaker 8: I killed it, Remember I killed it? And then and
Speaker 8: then I would go I was about eighteen, and I
Speaker 8: would go to Dona's house and I take notes and
Speaker 8: I was just like legitimately trying to be a stand up,
Speaker 8: but I was also dancing with missy Ella and Shakira
Speaker 8: and that was not very demanding. So I couldn't balance
Speaker 8: the stand up life and my career.
Speaker 3: As as a as a dancer.
Speaker 2: Here's stage on stage And then I did yeah, and
Speaker 2: he was actually there.
Speaker 4: I was dancing with the dream too, and he was
Speaker 4: the warm up.
Speaker 3: She was stand up. She did this is she says,
Speaker 3: this is this is a story. She did stand up right,
Speaker 3: And I told her, I said, whatever you do don't
Speaker 3: go up there talk about being pretty beautiful or any
Speaker 3: of that. I said. The reason why, I said, you
Speaker 3: look better at most of people that come to the show,
Speaker 3: and women are so fucked up they will hate you
Speaker 3: for cut to She did exactly what I told her
Speaker 3: not to do it.
Speaker 2: Oh God, let me tell you.
Speaker 3: She said something. I was like this, right, and then
Speaker 3: she came up to me at the end of the show.
Speaker 3: She was like this, she said. She said, this was
Speaker 3: only second time. I say. She said, what do you
Speaker 3: do when they're not lasting? I said, if you are
Speaker 3: going to cry about this situation, I advised you to
Speaker 3: quit stand up right now. And that was the last show.
Speaker 5: She okay, but that was great advice though.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I liked the fact that she was
Speaker 3: curious about it and she did it, and she tried.
Speaker 3: She had the little notepad and she was doing the thing.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's a certain like to for to
Speaker 3: have if you want to say some success and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden it's different. Some people can't handle it,
Speaker 3: and that's when you get stronger when you go act
Speaker 3: and you challenge yourself with this person.
Speaker 1: Stress factory this week.
Speaker 3: No, she she'll probably be hanging out.
Speaker 8: But now I'm on Beating Black on Netflix and then
Speaker 8: that's my show. I just booked a series regular, so
Speaker 8: that'll be coming.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you, like I've been knowing her
Speaker 3: for the longest time, one of my closest friend. I
Speaker 3: consider her to bring my daughter.
Speaker 1: Around. Yeah, anything, when did this happen? You look at it,
Speaker 1: if you.
Speaker 3: Look back at the history of my podcast whatever, she
Speaker 3: was one of my first cot we've had relationship with.
Speaker 3: The thing that I really appreciate about her and everybody
Speaker 3: has ups and downs in their career, right She's been
Speaker 3: through it. She has some highs and some lows. But
Speaker 3: the thing I respect the most she never she never stops,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Even when life is fucked up,
Speaker 3: and life can be fucked up, she never stopped. That's
Speaker 3: why I said. I told her, I said, I'm going
Speaker 3: to be as supportive as possible. You know. We went
Speaker 3: to the Caribbean of Caribbean Music Musical Wards the other
Speaker 3: day and it was something she really wanted to go.
Speaker 3: We went, we went, We had a good time. But
Speaker 3: that is like my whole idea of what the collective is.
Speaker 3: Just if you're in a position where you could look
Speaker 3: out for somebody or throw somebody a bone, or give
Speaker 3: them a platform and the shine. I think you're supposed to.
Speaker 5: Do it, and I think and you have a life
Speaker 5: outside of here.
Speaker 6: So although you never said anything, we didn't know about her,
Speaker 6: we know about her now because she's with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not a long time, never seen.
Speaker 2: And we appreciate you for joining.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, so much.
Speaker 2: Appreciate was great.
Speaker 3: Thank you because is.
Speaker 5: The show right now.
Speaker 1: I do have one more question from mister Wrongins. At
Speaker 1: this stage in your career, do you feel like you've
Speaker 1: gotten everything you deserve or are you still fighting for
Speaker 1: your flowers.
Speaker 3: I'm not fighting for my flowers, because whatever flowers is
Speaker 3: going to happen, it's already it's already laid it's already
Speaker 3: laid out. I'm not fighting for anything. I'm not I'm
Speaker 3: not fighting for for any more fame or any of that.
Speaker 3: I just like the path that I'm on. I like
Speaker 3: the fact that I've been doing it over thirty some years.
Speaker 3: I still can pull an audience. I'm still funny. You
Speaker 3: got some people that come in and go, I'm still
Speaker 3: still standing. I'm still one of the you know dopest
Speaker 3: comics out there that you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody really gave it somebody.
Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you to donw thank you for us
Speaker 2: this morning.
Speaker 1: Give you a flower.
Speaker 2: That's my guy and I don't even mentioned them one
Speaker 2: time because because we.
Speaker 1: Didn't, we.
Speaker 3: Said, we know what we did.
Speaker 2: These beautiful sneakers that you gave us.
Speaker 5: This is crazy.
Speaker 3: Look that's that's.
Speaker 2: Look at this one crazy.
Speaker 4: Oh my, you got your daughters on there. That's cute.
Speaker 2: That's not my daughters. That's me and Sean me.
Speaker 1: Oh s.
Speaker 3: Bust the breakfast club.
Speaker 1: It's down own rollings.
Speaker 2: Ladies, gentlemen, hold up every day.
Speaker 1: A wake, wake your glass up the breakfast club. You're
Speaker 1: finish for y'all done