1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: We only have one episode left with the Legend, the Voice, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: the Man, so it's time we get down to business. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: But wait, what what have we been doing this entire show? 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Then? 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 3: Uh? 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Ch'all for me? Life's a party. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: Well I know that for sure, and just like you, 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Mark Anthony has lived an extraordinary life, But unlike you, Joseph, 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: he's also been able to keep his personal life well personal. 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Hey, the world's a stage and i'm its great at 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: star like Bettle, why should I rob anyone of quality entertainment? 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: When it comes to Mark, on the other hand, there 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: is so much we don't know about him. 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: But uh, but you be knowing. We're nosy bitches and 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: we love the juice. So on today's episode. 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: We're going to bring it all back to where Mark 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: is now in his career, but. 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: We're also going to take you closer look at his relationships, 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: especially his marriage to j Lo and very passionate passion 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: project at Cantante, and. 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: More importantly, Joseph and I are going to kick it 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: off by taking it back to his performances with legendary 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: singer Celia Cruz. I'm your host, Liliana Ooscaz. 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: And I'm Joseph Carrio and this is Becoming an icon. 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: how today's most famous Latin v stars have shaped pop culture. 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: And given the world some extra level. 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: Sit back and get comfortable. 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: Because we are going in the only way we know how, 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: with buenas vibras. 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: Buenasriesas, and a lot of opinions as we relive their 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: greatest achievements on our journey to find out what makes 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: them so iconic. 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Mark Anthony has become a voice for Puerto Ricans. 35 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: Says the Mexican I love you for that, and honestly, 36 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: you guys, I don't think of Puerto Rican da parade 37 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: would be complete without at least like three to seven 38 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: of Mark Anthony's greatest hits blaring through the streets of 39 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: New York City. I mean, it happens every year. It 40 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: happened when I wrote on a Float and he basically 41 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: gave Puerto Rico an anthem with Preciosa. Now, he didn't 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: write the song. That was Puerto Rican composer Rafael Hernandez 43 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: back in nineteen thirty seven. 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: But we'd be lying if we said Mark Anthony's interpretation 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: isn't the one people think of instantly. 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: For sure, you think of the song, you think of 47 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: Mark Anthony. It's hand in hand and it's part of 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: a tradition of music that speaks for an entire country. 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: Our icons give a voice to people that often feel ignored. 50 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: Isn't that the reason for this whole podcast? 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: Oh so prolific? And yes, Joseph, we have come along 52 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: with from our first episodes with Bad Bunny, but the 53 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: message is consistent. 54 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: Our icons make sure to wave their flags up high. 55 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: They never back down from standing up for what they 56 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: believe in. And I'll drink to that. 57 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: It's eleven. 58 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Akay, you need to stop exposing that ass as. 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: You wish, sir, while you're coming to terms with your 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: extra party habits, I'm gonna pack it on up and 61 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: take a trip back to the set. 62 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: Then. 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: Thus, back in the seventies, Sansa was taking the world by. 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: Storm, and in the eye of the hurricane was none 65 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:42,559 Speaker 1: other than Urusola Ilaria Celia de la Caida Gruz Alfonso 66 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: aka Celia Gruz. Oh my god, did Ilaria Peppina Baldwin 67 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: name herself after Queen Celia. I'm done with her? What 68 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: to shage? So to shame? Now. 69 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: Much like Mark Anthony at the forefront of the Latin explosion, 70 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: Celia was at the forefront of the salsa boom. This 71 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: Afro Cuban legend went from performing with the orchestra Sonorra 72 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: Matansea in the fifties to popularizing salsa and helping people 73 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: embrace their heritage. Queen Celia was also kicking it with 74 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: the greats. 75 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: That included salsa supergroup La Faga All Stars. 76 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: But eventually someone from the next gen of musicians would 77 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: stand side by side with her greatness. 78 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: She traveled to son Juan a handful of times, so 79 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: it would be no surprise that Mark Anthony is the 80 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: one you're teasing. 81 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: See Puerto Rico and Cuba, just I've always had this 82 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: very special bond. There's actually a line from a famous 83 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: poem by a Puerto Rican poet named Lola Rodriguees de TiO. 84 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: Oh you're taking us to school. 85 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: Band, you bet your ass class is in session here 86 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: on becoming an icon. While in the poem she says 87 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: this Guba Puerto Ricos on loss alas receive and flores 88 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: obalas sobre coso, which translates too Cuban and Puerto Rico 89 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: are as two wings of the same bird. They receive 90 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: flowers and bullets into the same heart. 91 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: Oh. I love that Stelia worked with Tito Pente back 92 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: in the sixties and even saying with his orchestra. One 93 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: of their albums was titled Cuba Puerto Rico son so 94 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Queen definitely had Puerto Rico in her. 95 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: Guason case closed. 96 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: She spent the rest of her career consistently working with 97 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: Puerto Rican talent, including mister Anthony. 98 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: But let's not get ahead of ourselves. It did take 99 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: some time for them to collaborate, but by two thousand 100 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: and one, Celia had more than proven herself as one 101 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: of the most influential figures in music history, not Latin music, 102 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: music history, standing the test of time, delivering hit after hit, 103 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: which is why it makes perfect sense that she would 104 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: be asked to perform a tribute to Aretha Franklin and 105 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: right beside her was you can say it now, Mark Anthony. 106 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: I love this performance that they gave the world. Sometimes 107 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: performances are like a gift, and sometimes they're just performances. 108 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: The two of them together was so warm. It's everything 109 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: that salsa in a performance should be like. 110 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: Chills on your face. Everybody is dancing. The rhythm got. 111 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: You, it did. Thank you, Gloria, Gloria, I gotcha. Hello, 112 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: the sound machine got you. So in two thousand and one, Joseph, 113 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: where were. 114 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: You graduating high school? Probably buzzed off of Miller lights? 115 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: Okay, well I was in college. And back in the day, 116 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: VH one used to do this thing called Divas Live, 117 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 2: where they would actually honor very specific divas, right Mariah Carey, 118 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: Whitney Houston obviously a Franklin. So in this presentation on 119 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: VH one, Mark Anthony and Celia Cruz sang Quimbara together 120 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: and it was fi like fire, magic, It was all 121 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: of the things. And what's interesting about it is, originally 122 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: the song is, of course performed by Cela Cruz with 123 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: Johnny Pacheco, who's Dominican. But on this very special night, 124 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: Puerto Ricans rejoice because Mark Anthony stepped in and sang 125 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: it with Celia. But you know what's so it's funny. 126 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: Of course the music is stand out, But you know 127 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: what's even more stand out for me simply because you 128 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: and I are fashion observers. 129 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: What are you going to talk about? Nervous? 130 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: Mark Anthony's outfit. Yes, this was like you know how 131 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: when I have a child, so you know when you 132 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: like get your kid dressed for like Lesion and you know, 133 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: like Bamingo's, you're like your mom's like get your ass 134 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: out of bed, we're going to church, and you're like, oh, 135 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: and they make you put on like the nice clothes. 136 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: And I feel like somebody dressed him for church for 137 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: this outfit because this is not signature of Mark Anthony's style. 138 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: There were no dark sunglasses right right, There were no 139 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: gold chains, there wasn't a button down that only had 140 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: one button operative like it was you know, it was 141 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: a suit that did not feel like who he was. 142 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: I think he was still trying to kind of find 143 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: his identity. But he is a child in this so 144 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: it makes sense. But the two of them, you clearly 145 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: see that they have such a connection that goes beyond artist. 146 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: It's personal for them, and it was beautiful their voices together. 147 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: You know, one thing I always say with Mark Anthony's 148 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: voice is he is low effort, maximum impact, like he 149 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: does not have to even try, and pure poetry comes 150 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: out of his mouth when he. 151 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: Sings one thousand percent. But also can I just say that, 152 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: how does he look like he's four years old? I know, 153 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: like he looks so so so young, but he still 154 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: has the same voice. Like that voice has been very consistent, 155 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, how kind of like changes 156 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: like if we're looking at something back then listening to him, 157 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: like let's say now it's it's the same, nothing has changed. 158 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: No, because I think his voice is so pure and 159 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: such raw talent. Like you, that is a god given 160 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: gift for him. He was born sounding like that, like 161 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: he didn't have to work on it or train it. 162 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe he has had vocal training. I have 163 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: no idea, but I think some artists are born with 164 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: such a pure, raw talent. Mark Anthony, for me, is 165 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: just one of those singers, and you really see it 166 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: a lot when he's in a duet with someone. But 167 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: interestingly enough, here with Selah, it doesn't pop as much 168 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: because he's matched well with her artistic talent, and so 169 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: you just see two people that are peers, right, not 170 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: one person is better than the other. It just works. 171 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: The synergy is so beautiful between the two of them. 172 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: And I also love that she like steps out and 173 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: yells ah, so God, I was gonna say that I've 174 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: heard this song performed played a million times. Do you 175 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: know that I am never known what quimbata actually means. 176 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what it means. Please tell me what 177 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: quimbara means. 178 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 2: Okay, So, first of all, I thought it was Spanish. 179 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: It is not. 180 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: But it is believed that the word quimbata actually has 181 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: African origins, which is interesting because we all know that, 182 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 2: you know, salsa has its roots in Afro Cuban music, right, 183 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: so it's so diverse the style of music. But quimbaa 184 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: itself is said to mean something similar to like having 185 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: a good time, like enjoying yourself, like partying, relaxing. 186 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, bitch, then I am ketam buying 187 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: while the time. 188 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: I want more kumbata in my life. Kimbada, quimbera, kimba, kibita. 189 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: That's really hard to say. I can't even imagine singing it. 190 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: I remember watching the jalub performance. Do you remember that 191 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: at the American Music Awards in twenty thirteen. 192 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: She sang any songs? 193 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: She say yes, And the thing is is I wished 194 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: she was able to say kim ra as many times 195 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: as she did. 196 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: It's very hard to say, but I do love that performance. 197 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: That is, to me like classic Jalo, And I do 198 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: love when Jaelo honors another icon, because we think of 199 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: her as so iconic that it's really beautiful to see 200 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: her honoring a fellow icon. 201 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: Fast forward to March two thousand and three. 202 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: A tribute special was held in Celia's honor, hosted by 203 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: both Mark Anthony and Cuban Royalty in her own right, 204 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: Loria Stefan. 205 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: Titled Celia Cruz As to God. It managed to raise 206 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: over one hundred and forty five thousand dollars for the 207 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: Sei La Cruz Foundation. 208 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, this would be the last time Celia Cruz would 209 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: make a public appearance before her death in July of 210 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: two thousand and three. And this special was filled with 211 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: Latin music legends. 212 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: Every single one, every single one. Don't even name them all. 213 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna name host. Yes, that's on Patty LaBelle, Mark Anthony, 214 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: Gloria Gainor. I mean, there were so many people there 215 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: to sing for her. It was amazing, and I think 216 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: it really shows how deep and wide her impact was 217 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: on the music industry. But this isn't Celia Cruz becoming 218 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: an icon. This is Mark Anthony. 219 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: If I got lost, I really did get lost really quick. 220 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: I was like, tell me more. Bitches need to know. 221 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go back to Mark, back to Mark, back 222 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: to Mark. 223 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: Okay. 224 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: If you guys remember, Mark started as a session vocalist 225 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: making Latin freestyle tracks. He famously said he did not 226 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: want to be a salsa singer, but one fateful night 227 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety two with the at the Helm, everything changed. 228 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: And where did that happen? 229 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: Exactly in freaking ms jeemish. We stay bringing these full 230 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: circle moments here at becoming an icon. Honey. 231 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: It really does give you goosebumps, doesn't it. 232 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: The cosmos are speaking to us, babes. 233 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: And this performance took place in two thousand. It was 234 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: filmed a television special broadcast on HBO for Valentine's Day, 235 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: and it was titled Mark Anthony the Concert from Madison 236 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: Square Garden to help promote his album Gonrea Coriente, which 237 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: I will talk about at the very end of the episode, 238 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 2: because that has taking you way back too far. 239 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: Back to MSG is the pinnacle for any artist's career, 240 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: and this time around he was center stage, the spotlight 241 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: on him. It was finally his moment and he. 242 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: Was a baby. He was baby Mark Anthony like like 243 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: high school. He to me in this particular performance, and 244 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: by the way, great timing. 245 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: Mark. 246 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: He finally looked like the star and the showman that 247 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: he is. First of all, MSG, massive stage, HBO, massive distribution. 248 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he knew he had to step it up. 249 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: And to me, this is when he became like Mark 250 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: Anthony as the rest of the world knows him. 251 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: It's funny because when he set the stage, I literally 252 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: thought he was like walking off of the matrix. I 253 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: thought he kind of was like Keanu Re. I like 254 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: wasn't sure what was about to happen. I was like, 255 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: is this going to be some sort of like sci 256 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: fi performance or something? And then you know that look 257 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: that that leather coat. 258 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: What bring it? 259 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Mark? 260 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: Bring it? And we know this. Mark Anthony is a 261 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: busy ass man. He's got so many projects, music, film, 262 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: is personal life, producing all of it. But he never 263 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: forgot good old Celia. 264 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, sixteen years after her passing, he paid 265 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: a tribute to her once again, this time on social media. 266 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: He shared a photo of the night they performed Quemara together. 267 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: The caption read, yes, he says Annos sinea nunka olvidae 268 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: suskalidosavrassos so le gallo vivo oiret amo Celia. In English, 269 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: it means sixteen years of that I will never forget 270 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: her warm hugs. Her legacy lives on today and always. 271 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: I love you, Selah and as time goes on. One 272 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: thing that remains consistent in Mark's career is that he 273 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: always acknowledges those that came before him, those that's at 274 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: the stage for him to shine. 275 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: He's also not one to shy away from sharing this 276 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: stage and the spotlight with powerful women. 277 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: Which is why it made perfect sense for Jlo and 278 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: him to be the ones to bring a Hector Levo's 279 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: story to life in El. 280 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: Even if the end result wasn't that expected. 281 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: I don't think the math is mathing on this one, 282 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: but I believe it's been sixteen years up since Elgantante 283 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: came out. 284 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: Honestly, I can feel myself aging. 285 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: What do you remember about the movie? 286 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't watch it because at that point I 287 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: have to just be really honest with the listeners, the 288 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: people who like, share and comment. At the time, I 289 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: was jayloed out personally, so I just you said, n 290 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: I just couldn't. Really, I just couldn't. It was just like, no, 291 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: just wasn't not I didn't. But I do know like 292 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: the story, so okay, so you know I can contribute, Okay. 293 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: So you know that this is a biopic, right, It 294 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: follows the life of the late Sansan singer Hector Levau, 295 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: who is portrayed by Mark Anthony. You do know Mark 296 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: Anthony played. 297 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: Hector Leva, yes, okay. 298 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: And you do know that Jlo played Mark's wife on 299 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: screen Boji, Right, Okay. I think a lot of people 300 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: that saw in the theaters that saw it when it 301 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: first came out just had a lot of curiosity about 302 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: Jlo and Mark, and so they went to this film 303 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: just to see more of them because, like we know, 304 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: you can't ever get enough of big A list celebrity couples. 305 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: But that really wasn't enough. And the film has had 306 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: mixed reviews for a lot of reasons, which we're going 307 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: to get into. I mean, if we're gonna call it 308 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: what it is, it was a bomb. Critics didn't like it, 309 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: and Lopez and Anthony defended the film. But Lopez and 310 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: Anthony ardently defended the film, but salsa musician Willie Colonne 311 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: was one of those that was really vocal about the 312 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: film's failure to portray Hector Lavaux in a good light. 313 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: Listen to what he said to the Los Angeles Times. 314 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: The real story was about Hector fighting the obstacles of 315 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: a non supportive industry that took advantage of entertainers with 316 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: his charisma and talent. Instead, they did another movie about 317 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: two Puerto Rican junkies. It's difficult to comprehend how two 318 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: individuals who are in the music business like Mark and 319 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: Jennifer are not aware of the damage and the consequences 320 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: of promoting only the negative side of our Latin music culture. 321 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: Essentially, why are you focusing on the booze, the drugs, 322 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: and the sex when you could have been talking about 323 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: the musika. 324 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: In two thousand and seven, People magazine wrote about the film, 325 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: saying that the film's only saving grace were Jennifer and Mark, 326 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: that it felt like we weren't watching Pouchi and Lava, 327 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: but we were actually watching that couple play themselves. 328 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's difficult to separate the two in 329 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: your head. 330 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: Right. 331 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: People couldn't even focus on the actual film everyone just 332 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: wanted the tea on. 333 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: Them and listen, it's okay. Maybe the film wasn't a 334 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: runaway hit, but Janthony, we're still going strong as a couple. 335 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: Around this time, they weren't breaking up just because they 336 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: were breaking up and punching each other and boozing it 337 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: up and. 338 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: All kind of f Dare you say, Janthony, all right, 339 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: forgive me? 340 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: Do you forgive me? 341 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: Yes? Either way, people wanted more of them. Breaking into 342 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: the US market meant breaking into pop culture. Conversation with 343 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: that became the rumors. Tabloids thought that there was trouble 344 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: in Paradise and the two were heading straight for a 345 00:18:59,040 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: big breakup. 346 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: Mark Anthony is, let's call it what it is, a 347 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: very serious musician. He's not a pop star. He's not 348 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: a pop starlet, he's not a dancer. He is a musician, 349 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: and he, I think did not expect to be all 350 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: wrapped up in the j Loo circus, the JLO drama, 351 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: all of it right, and shortly after the release of 352 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: the film, they did announce their tour Jennifer Lopez and 353 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 2: Mark Anthony en Goncierto. 354 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: Most likely to counteract any rumors of their potential split. 355 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: I mean that's true. If people are saying you're going 356 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: to split up, do the one thing that has to 357 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: keep you together contractually, legally, and financially, which is go 358 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: on tour together. 359 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 360 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: I mean you're stuck with each other, whether you want 361 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: to be or not. And during the performance at the 362 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: Staples Center on October seventeen to two thousand and seven, 363 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: Anthony covered faithfully by Journey and dedicated it to his 364 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: wife Lopez. 365 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: Let's be real for a sec working on a movie 366 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: and then a tour together that would put a strain 367 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: on any relationship, even the strongest and healthiest on the plannet. 368 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: Yes, And despite all of that, they still made time 369 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: to create these iconic music moments like who could forget 370 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: their performance at the American Idol Finale. 371 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: I have loved it, and you know what, I remember 372 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: it and I'm going to tell you this because it 373 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: was kind of fun to see j Loo go back 374 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: to being like a backup dancer. And I don't mean 375 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: that in a bad way. I don't mean that in 376 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: a oh because I mean it in a way that 377 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: like I don't feel like we get to really feel 378 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: and see j Lo perform as just a dancer anymore, 379 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: Like she's always kind of like has to sing and 380 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: dance and sing, that's what she does. In this one, 381 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: she was only dancing, so she was giving it to you, 382 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: that's right. 383 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: So during this particular performance, Mark Anthony walks out on stage. 384 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: He is singing, which is beautiful, and it's like one 385 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: of those songs that like gets everybody dancing. If you've 386 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: ever been to like a godnasala, a wedding, a king Signeta, 387 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: like I don't know, you're Thea's living room on Christmas 388 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: Eve in the sala, you know, like they put this 389 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 2: song on and everyone dances. So Mark Anthony comes out, 390 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: he opens his mouth, out comes this like beautiful song. 391 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 2: He's singing. It's fast, it's energetic, it's high paced. And 392 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: then Jlo appears, but she doesn't appear to stand at 393 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: a mic and sing with him. She truly is, like 394 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: Joseph said, like his backup dancer. And what's so cool 395 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: about this moment is that this particular song is by 396 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 2: Willi Colonne and Hector LeVaux. So it's like a full 397 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: circle moment, right, they just one like aantin. Now they're 398 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: out there performing this song by Hector Levo and the 399 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: Jalo booty shake. 400 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: Wow. But you know what I'm gonna say this, I 401 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: think she meant that Jalo boody shake. It wasn't just 402 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: a performance, it was really her dancing. Like I think 403 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: it was such a very strange performance for me to 404 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: watch her in because I feel like, you find like 405 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: not she always gives it one thousand percent, so I'm 406 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: not even gonna say she doesn't. But this one was 407 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: just so different for me. Like watching it, I was like, 408 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: she's a tempster, but no amount of booty shaking could 409 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: say this marriage. 410 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: By the time the two did call equits in twenty sixteen, 411 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: everyone wanted to know what happened between Jenny from the 412 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: Bloc and the King of Salsa. They had premiered the 413 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: film when on tour and even announced that they were 414 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: having twins then divorce. 415 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: It got so ridiculous. Imagine having a grant an ABC 416 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: News exclusive for your divorce. 417 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: I'm exhausted just thinking about it. But listen, it's like 418 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: we talked about with Benefir's first go around. Media has 419 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: evolved a lot since then, especially now that we have 420 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: more direct access to celebrities with their social media. Before 421 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: the only way we could get any crumb of information 422 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: was through these exclusive news channels, these entertainment news shows. 423 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: One thing I do know is that Mark is still 424 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: a very private man. And yes, Jennifer was able to 425 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: get him out of his shell. She got him to 426 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: step out a little bit more, start to enjoy his fame. 427 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you really have 428 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 2: to be a very specific kind of person to be 429 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: able to handle the madness and attention that Jennifer attracts. 430 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 2: And I don't mean like on a red carpet. I 431 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: mean like going out to for Duncan. 432 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: Right, right, just in the daily life. But you know, 433 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: I will say this, I really do think that there 434 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: was love there and nobody can convince me otherwise. 435 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: Oh totally. 436 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: But it did get really bad. There were rumors that 437 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: he had cheated on Jenny with keep my wife's name 438 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: out of your mouth slap in Jada Pinkett Smith Well. 439 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: In Mark's words when talking about the divorce, he simply said, 440 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: these things happen. The relationship wasn't working anymore, and they 441 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: realized this was the best option for the both of them. 442 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: Mark had been in various relationships before Jlo. 443 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: There was de Wi Rosado, who he had a daughter 444 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: with and then adopted son with. 445 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: There was also Dominican American actress Claudette Lally and. 446 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 2: Former Miss Universe Dianaa Thoris remember her from the Jalo episodes? 447 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: Did you know he also has kids with her? 448 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 2: Hmmm, snip snip man, snip snip. 449 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: It's okay. After their divorce, she traded her engagement ring 450 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: for a Cardier watch. 451 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: This major boss moves you get it, Dianada. 452 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: After that, Jalo and Mark officially tied the knock. 453 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 2: Not to be shady, which, by the way, means that 454 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: you're about to be so shady. Cue the shady music. 455 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: But I have to say Jlo is the one out 456 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: of all of the wives that for sure like stands 457 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: out the most. And I'm not trying to make this 458 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: episode about her. I know we keep talking about her, 459 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 2: but in this particular episode, I mean, when you think 460 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: of Anthony, it's really hard not to also think of 461 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: j Loo. They were almost kind of like the Megan 462 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: Markle and Prince Harry Puerto Rico. 463 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: Actually facts, I'm not even gonna because like, who else 464 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: did they pay six million dollars for photos of their kids. 465 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: For exactly they seemed to have everything, but d Day 466 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: came in twenty fourteen. 467 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: And five months later he proved you can't keep a 468 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: good man down because he then married model Shannon Nelima. 469 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: Two years later, they split. 470 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: During that time, Anthony and Lopez kissed at the twenty 471 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: sixteen Latin Grammys, and then Mark and Lima announced their separation. 472 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: You're right, I remember they split way before the kiss. 473 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: But okay, Escandelo, Okay, when do I get to Yelbingo 474 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: around a little later in the show, But around six 475 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: years later he found love again in his current wife 476 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 3: for Miss Universe spataguay naw the ot Fedida. 477 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: By the way, they are also expecting a child the 478 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 2: seventh for him first for her Bingo, snip, snip, and 479 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: is he trying to give Nick Cannon a run for 480 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: his money? But now that we have all of that 481 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 2: relationship drama out of the way, we're reminded of something. 482 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: Uh he has a lot of kids. 483 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: Yes, that too. But while Joseph and I and we 484 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: know you guys listening love a little cheesema with a 485 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: celebrity's personal life, Mark is one of those icons that, 486 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 2: like I said earlier, is truly a talented artistic musician, 487 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: regardless of what is happening in his personal life. 488 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: Okay, he's a best selling artist for a reason. Crafting 489 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: enough ballads for the first dance of Beny Weddings to come, 490 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: and everything he's been through further fuels his music. You 491 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: can't sing romantic sids without having a low romance and 492 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: a whole lot of drama in your life. You know 493 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Absolutely, do you have a favorite Mark song? 494 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: I can't pick favorite songs. I don't work like that. 495 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I work in three years. 496 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: Okay, let's do this. Why don't you do the top 497 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: three Mark songs that pop in your head? They could 498 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: be your favorite, they could just be the ones that 499 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: pop in your head. 500 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 2: Okay, So I would say that when I think of 501 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: Mark first of all, when I think of Mark, one 502 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: song comes to mind, which is a VV of me 503 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: V that. 504 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's that's globally, that's. 505 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: Just the one, Like, that's just the song that everyone's like, 506 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: oh yeah, obviously that one, I will say. And I'm 507 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: not like one of these people that's like, oh, this 508 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: song lifted my soul during a dark time, Like by 509 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: the way, no shade if it does for you, I'm 510 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: just not one of those people. I will say that 511 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: there were moments when I was going through like postpartum 512 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: with Santhy, when I would have to play that song 513 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: to like get myself out of my baby funkiness. No, yes, 514 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: I think something and I would play it for us 515 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: like i'd play it for Santhia I because I think 516 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 2: there was something so like elevating about the song. There 517 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: was something I needed that right, Like I was in 518 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: like sleepless nights, like diaper haze, like just postpartum. It's crazy, 519 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 2: and that song really did like take me out of 520 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 2: like the sadness that I was experiencing. Like I just 521 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: I really helped. So anyway, I think vivid me vida. 522 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: Next song I love is con La Coriente because it's 523 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: so early in Mark's career and it was like his 524 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: first Oh it's so good. It's such a classic. It's 525 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: also such a classic salsa song. 526 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: So it has more trumpetty it's music. 527 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: It's like it's pure, like it's a pure salsa song, right, 528 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: because there's like I think salsa like everything right, things 529 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: get mixed in. There's a hybrid to me that is 530 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 2: like a classic salsa. It follows Sulza very classically, and 531 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: then by Yeah Boy, which is newer but like BITJ 532 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: I'm on my way, like where's the party? I Am 533 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: on my way? 534 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: That is a good one. 535 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: That is that is like round up the troops, let's go. 536 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: You chose three Spanish ones and that's just you know, 537 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: kind of your relationship with Mark Anthony and for me, 538 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: just because I didn't really listen to like trumpets and 539 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: saxophones because they hurt my ears. I'm really much into 540 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: his like English music, Like I was obsessed with you 541 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: saying to me and you sang to me like oh 542 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: my god. It just it was such a beautiful love song. 543 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: You know, such I'm you're a cheese puff. You have 544 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: left cheese. 545 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: Butter icy cheese puffs. You could be a. 546 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: Crunchy like a crunchy spicy cheese puff. 547 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: And also I need to know the song. 548 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: I need to know what's wrong with you? What is 549 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: wrong with you? 550 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: Are like my Mark Anthony penty droppers and they're not 551 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: even like but they're just so good for me. I 552 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: just I love I can really feel his voice, like 553 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: I know, like he's one of those singers that I 554 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: can feel what he's saying, like for me, you singing 555 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: to me and I need to know. I feel like 556 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: I hear the words, I feel the words. I am 557 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: the words bitch, Hello and goodbye. 558 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: He's a multi talented artist with so many hits as 559 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: you just heard us go through. But since his singing 560 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: career took over, his acting career was forced into early retirement. 561 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: Until twenty twenty one when lin Manuel Miranda gave him 562 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: a call. 563 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: It took fifteen years from Mark Anthony to return to 564 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: the world of acting. 565 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: Wga and sag Astra Strong by. 566 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: The way, Babes your words to the amptpiece ears. 567 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: How do you keep busy in the meantime? You know? 568 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: Between the wives so shady. 569 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: Well, Our's career doesn't just stop at entertainment. In January 570 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: twenty twelve, he launched the Maestro Cares Foundation alongside Henry Cardenas. 571 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: Together they've opened an orphanage in La Romana, Dominican Republic, 572 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: as well as a youth home and schools in Barraanquia, Columbia. 573 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: Okay, just like our homegirl Frianta Shaki. 574 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: Alongside Jennifer Lopez. He's also continuously committed to giving back 575 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: to Puerto Rico. Remember back in twenty seventeen, right after 576 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: Hurricane Maria, they held the One Voice Almost live a 577 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: concert for disaster relief. 578 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: Do you remember now I do? Yes, I Do? 579 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: And our other icons Benito and Bruno Mars were also 580 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: a part of it. He also collaborated with becoming an 581 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: icon star lin Mino Miranda. 582 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: Wait, what was the name of that song? 583 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: You mean the one that they all sang together? 584 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 585 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh almost like praying. And the roster 586 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: on this song, by the way, is kura it is. 587 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: You had Jennifer, Gloria stiff On, Fat, Joe. 588 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: Camila Cabello remember her, she was in that. 589 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: Yes, and then wait, We're not done, Luis Fonsi rita moreno, 590 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: Gina Rodriguez who even knew she's saying? Hello? 591 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: I wait, Gina Rodriaz. 592 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah she's not. Everyone was on this and this song 593 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: even cracked the Billboard Hot one hundred at number twenty. 594 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: And there was a little cameo from someone very special. 595 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: Do you know who are you. 596 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: Gonna say, John Leguizamo, No the cookie because he was 597 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: in one. 598 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: Yes, fine, but he was not the special cameo. It 599 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: was the Frog. My son Santhi loves cookies. 600 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: They read about the bookies the Frog. The noise in 601 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: the beginning, it's at the beginning. 602 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: At the end, it's like it's like the siren sound 603 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 2: of Puerto Rico. 604 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to learn how to make that noise because 605 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: it will rally up the troops that we know that 606 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: we're going a happy hour. 607 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: It's insane to think that when Lynn was only eighteen 608 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: years old, he saw Mark on Broadway in the Cape Man, 609 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: then he got marked to be in The Heights. I 610 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: mean that is unreal. 611 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Mark was on Broadway. 612 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: Uh huh, I know. I did not know this until 613 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: we started researching for this show. But the show didn't 614 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: do as well as it could have. It did get 615 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: Tony nominations, but critics buried it under negative reviews. 616 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: Honestly, these people are so damn. 617 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: Bored hater nation. Well, it worked out for Lynn. Mark 618 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: had gone from someone that was collaborating with people he admired, 619 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: like Tito Puente and Celia Cruz, to being that person 620 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 2: for the next generation. And not to mention that in 621 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: the Heights of the movie was an incredible milestone all 622 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: on its own. 623 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: It's no wonder why Mark Anthony said yes without hesitating. 624 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: See the role of Sonny's father, mister de la Vega, 625 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: was written specifically for the film. It doesn't actually exist 626 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: in the original production, but Lynn wanted it to be Anthony, 627 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: so he texted him, I mean, yeah, NBD, right, no 628 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: big deal. I have Mark on spied Del too. 629 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: Sure, Jane. 630 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 2: What we know is that Mark had been a big 631 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: fan since the musical first debut on Broadway in two 632 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: thousand and eight, which is what made it so easy 633 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: for him to say yes, Lynn, abvi, I'll do it, 634 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 2: And this particular moment actually marked his return to acting 635 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: for the first time in fifteen years. 636 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: Wow. I mean honestly, Lynn must have been doing front 637 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: and backflips. 638 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And people were excited. But director John M. Chew, well, 639 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: he was worried. Uh huh. Let me tell you why 640 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: don't you dare? He thought, here's this iconic singer that 641 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: brought forth a cultural phenomenon in the music scene of 642 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: New York and whatever beyond the globe, and now he 643 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: was supposed to be on a set for a pivotal 644 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: two minute scene in mister Chew's film. I mean he 645 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 2: was nervous. 646 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: It was insane. There was extra security because people kept 647 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: crowding the area just to get a good look at him. 648 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: Two unsurprisingly ended up being so impressed with the brief 649 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: time he got to spend with Mark on set. He 650 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: told USA Today that guy will win an oscar one 651 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 2: day if he does more movies. For sure. 652 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: What a career from Latin freestyle to becoming a minority 653 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: owner of the Miami Dolphins. Who the f would a thought? 654 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 2: It's really out there. Mark Anthony stands as proof that 655 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 2: life can take you in so many different directions. So 656 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: far in his life and career, he's given US twenty 657 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: five Billboard chart hits. 658 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: He's won a bunch of awards. 659 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: Otherwise known as Grammys. Let's give praise where praises do? 660 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: Okay, my mistake A bunch just was. It's easier to. 661 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 2: Say, And there's no doubt why he was ranked one 662 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: of the two hundred greatest singers of all time. 663 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: One thing's for certain. Mark Anthony remains one of the 664 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: most influential New yor Weecans in the history of this city. 665 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: And we can't wait to see what he does next 666 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 2: On the next becoming an icon. 667 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: It's finally time for the ultimate icon that's excited. 668 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: I'm like that little kid that wakes up to go 669 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: to disney Land in the morning. Okay, you guys, we're 670 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: heading all the way to Miami. 671 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: Wait, you guys, hold on, you can toads. Relax because 672 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: it's not for the super Bowl this time, we swear no. 673 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 2: This time, we're shaking our bodies and getting ready to 674 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 2: do the Gunga. So gather around and feel the heat 675 00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: because we're hyping up Loria Stefan. Becoming an Icon is 676 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 2: presented by Sonoo and Iheart'smichaelduda podcast network. Listen to Becoming 677 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: an Icon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever 678 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: you get your podcast