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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you asked for the art, you got the art. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Friday July fifteenth, twenty twenty two is when you're watching this.

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Speaker 3: This right here is the award winning Morning Combat, the

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Speaker 3: best damn combat sports show.

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Speaker 1: Period.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my name is just one half of this co

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Speaker 3: hosting duol right here, maybe the saucier of the two

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Speaker 3: little American alpha on that ass the BDC.

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Speaker 2: With the BB.

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Speaker 3: You get, you get what I'm trying to do there

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Speaker 3: in the end, Brian Campbell coming at you here all right,

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Speaker 3: all our all the time, full frontal Fridays. Right, That's

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Speaker 3: what MK offers to you. But you know you may

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Speaker 3: not get in the building because of me. You love

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Speaker 3: that man sitting next to me. He's he's a fantastic

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Speaker 3: fight analyst, a really good dad too. No one necessarily

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Speaker 3: talks about that enough. He's from the capital of Los

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Speaker 3: e Stados. His name is Luke Thomas. Why are they

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Speaker 3: really all that unidos these days?

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Speaker 2: Luke, ask, good question. Actually I don't know the answer

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Speaker 2: to that, but I am here. I am here, and

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here with you, my good sir. Wow.

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Speaker 2: We don't have shows very often BC where we're both

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Speaker 2: wearing merch from the MBA store.

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Speaker 1: But today, yeah, let's let's start off right there.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, we're filming this this one right here,

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Speaker 3: a day in advance.

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Speaker 1: We're not technically alive.

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Speaker 3: BC's got some dad duties and a normal Friday thing,

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Speaker 3: but uh, in case news breaks between now and them,

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Speaker 3: all right, want you f off people? Okay, but you

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Speaker 3: guys didn't want his f off already. All Right, but

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Speaker 3: you mentioned the merch Luke, Morningcombat Dot store can get you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, fantastic, fantastic threads, Luke. Right now, I'm rocking

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Speaker 3: this incredible MK tie ed eyed shirt with I mean,

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Speaker 3: the quality is ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Luke.

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Speaker 3: What are you wearing at the moment.

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing the uh skull with the weights joint no

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Speaker 3: What are you wearing, Luke? Oh, Jim shortz Oh, Okay,

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Speaker 3: just trying to make sure, Yeah, you can get the

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Speaker 1: You can get factory town to have a mayor.

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Speaker 3: How about our new one? Yeah, pregame preview real talk

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Speaker 3: like men do. Go right there, right now to Morning

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Speaker 3: Combat dot store. Why why should you buy that particular

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Speaker 3: shirt there? It is right there in many fantastic, ridiculous colors, Probably, Luke,

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Speaker 3: because you know there's a feeling behind the scenes that

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Speaker 1: A glorified BC's cravings.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Luke, a lot of MK is that?

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Speaker 3: So why don't you get out out there and add

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Speaker 2: You, yeah, thank you? All right?

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Speaker 3: MMA under the belltour banner, Showtime Championship, boxing your boy

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Speaker 3: But if you want to pound sand on the back end,

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Speaker 3: those are your issues, Luke. It is a Friday show

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Speaker 3: so hot, damn are we gonna set the stage for

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Speaker 3: a fun weekend to come. We're gonna we're gonna hit

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Speaker 1: You got any that you want to shout out At

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Speaker 2: A short but relatively interesting conversation with Jake Paul. That's

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if you're invested in our success because

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Speaker 1: Weirdness, We get you, Mkkerr.

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Speaker 3: If don't nobody else care, why don't you vote for

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Speaker 3: us to go further in the nomination quest under the auspices,

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Speaker 3: the sports category. Vote for MK if you're feeling it.

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Speaker 3: It only takes sixty seconds or less. Could it produce

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Speaker 3: a live show in New York City in November? It's possible, folks.

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Speaker 3: But here's the deal, Luke. We're nominated for Best Sports Podcasts,

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Speaker 3: apparently a show so great, Luke. People's choice Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: For Yeah, you should probably vote for us. Click that

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Speaker 1: Look, it won't take you long.

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Speaker 3: The more you invest in your free time into us,

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Speaker 2: See, that's funny you mentioned that because I've not seen it.

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Speaker 3: of course headlined by Good Lord, a must see featherweight

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Speaker 2: It's surprising to me a little bit that Ortega is

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Speaker 2: And it's it's not that he obviously doesn't have in

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, Look, this is full potential to be skyrockets

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Speaker 3: So it's like I can't figure out right now, and

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Speaker 3: Here's what I found interest most interesting from listening to.

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Speaker 3: All Right, he doesn't put as much praise on himself

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Speaker 1: You know, we need him to get ironed out.

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Speaker 3: No, we may actually need him, Luke, to be wild

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Speaker 1: It may have to be a crazy, a crazy show, Luke.

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Speaker 3: And when he gets there, even though the odds are

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Speaker 1: They're gonna go after it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna win, as fans, yet, I gotta be blunt, real,

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Speaker 2: That's what I've been trying to tell you for three years,

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Speaker 2: Nothing in my job description that requires me to give

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Speaker 3: What that's real talk, like men do, just so you know.

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Speaker 3: But I think in this case, it is a special scenario.

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Speaker 3: short of your prediction, but how do you see the

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Speaker 3: flow of this fight going?

434
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Speaker 2: See you picked up on something I agree with it,

435
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 2: and I said a little bit about it, and you

436
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 2: expanded on it, and I think it's right, dude. How

437
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 2: many times have we seen Brian Ortega get lit up

438
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 2: and then win a fight? You know, A million times

439
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 2: a million? I mean, obviously I'm exaggerating. It's not quite

440
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 2: a million, it's not even close, but you know that

441
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 2: the sort of figuratively, there's been so many instances of

442
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 2: him getting hit and getting backed up and blah blah blah,

443
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 2: and then all he needs is a quick moment and

444
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: then the show was over again. The Waikano fight, I

445
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: was there for that one. That was the I think

446
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 2: that was Jones DC two, if I believe that's right.

447
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: And you know, he came back to to the winner's

448
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: sort of media circle after the fight was over and

449
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: he could barely walk that like Kenrick Gracie had to

450
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 2: help him back there. He got chewed up in that

451
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 2: fight and still found a way to win. So it's like,

452
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 2: here's the thing. Do I think as long as this

453
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 2: fight lasts, Yeah, he is probably gonna eat him alive

454
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Speaker 2: on the feet, unless Ortega has a new gear he

455
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Speaker 2: hasn't shown us yet, which by the way, is possible.

456
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Speaker 2: We reference that on Wednesday, with like the inactivity and

457
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Speaker 2: with the kind of growth that is possible in between. Then,

458
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: But do I think that year is gonna light him

459
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Speaker 2: up on the feet? Like, I don't really have much

460
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Speaker 2: of a doubt about it. A couple of the X

461
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 2: factors you could think of as one, you know, to

462
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Speaker 2: what extent can Ortega use a jab and stuff like

463
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: that to slow things down? The other one would be

464
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: could he catch kicks? Right? If you're not great at takedowns,

465
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 2: one way to kind of equalize that or to shorten

466
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: that path is to be able to catch kicks and

467
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Speaker 2: then run someone down. That's the thing you can do

468
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: if you're a striker as well. Maybe we see something

469
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: like that and that enables him to get on top.

470
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Speaker 2: Because on the mat, I don't think. I don't think

471
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Speaker 2: anybody has anything for Brian Ortega really in that division.

472
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: You know, a guy like Volkanovsky might be the exception,

473
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: but like grappling, for grappling, I don't think Volkanovsky is

474
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: actually better in that sense. So so what do I expect?

475
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: I expect you I here to tune him up for

476
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 2: a while, to be honest with you, But I mean

477
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: the thing you have to ask yourself is does Ortega

478
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: last through that he might? What if it goes late?

479
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, here has shown a you know, you

480
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: didn't see it as much in the fight with Holloway,

481
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: but I think in other fights has kind of faded

482
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: a little bit down the stretch. That's another thing to

483
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 2: sort of think about. This one is where a case

484
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Speaker 2: where you know, Turvor Whitman talks about it all the time.

485
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 2: It's like, what's the difference between the guys who are very, very,

486
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Speaker 2: very good or elite from the ones who are just

487
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 2: a step below that, And it's the capacity to control

488
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 2: for mistakes. These guys have both kind of wide open,

489
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: defensively liable styles. That's the problem with picking this fight.

490
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, one guy is very good on

491
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: the feet and the other guy has just you know,

492
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: insane durability and lights out submission opportunities that he can

493
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,959
Speaker 2: just snatch a throat like that. How do you make

494
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Speaker 2: a pick in that? I guess if I'm forced to

495
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 2: lean a little bit towards Rodriguez, yeah, not very comfortably

496
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Speaker 2: at all. And I agree with you, I it might

497
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 2: go the distance, but I feel like, however long it goes,

498
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: it's gonna be batshit. It's gonna be batshit insane, probably

499
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: in both directions for a time, This one is gonna

500
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 2: be an all action affair.

501
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Speaker 3: I agree with you on both being surprised that or

502
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Speaker 3: Take is the favorite, and right, let me see, yeah,

503
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 3: or you are taking as a light favorite minus one

504
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: seventy five, Rodriguez is the despite both coming off of

505
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: defeats stockwise form, you know, current form. I think we're

506
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 3: all gonna agree that it seems like Yaya is going

507
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Speaker 3: in the in the other direction than Ortega, who has

508
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 3: more questions to answer.

509
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Speaker 1: But what I certainly.

510
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: Love by default about this fight is kind of what

511
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: you said. You go to the ground, one guy's got

512
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: a huge advantage. You stay on the feet. For the

513
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: most part, we're gonna assume one guy, Yay, is gonna

514
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: have you a huge advantage. But Luke, when fights get

515
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 3: crazy and weird and batch and all that, and let's

516
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: also keep in mind again, yeah, you're saying, I really

517
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: need to stay out of bad situations. If I'm gonna,

518
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: you know, fulfill my destiny, it can come down to

519
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 3: the intangibles. I don't know how much longer.

520
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: Brian Ortega is gonna be able.

521
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Speaker 3: To take this type of damage, but can go five rounds, Yes,

522
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: can get can walk through you know. Hell yes, a

523
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: lot can pull victory out of the clutches of defeat. Yes,

524
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Speaker 3: as we just established a lot even though we've seen

525
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: Yaear perform very well in a five round thriller and

526
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Speaker 3: losing to Max and then also rally in a five

527
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 3: round thriller in a close fight that I believe he

528
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 3: was losing at the time to Korean Zombie to pull

529
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Speaker 3: it off with you know, the miraculous one second left

530
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Speaker 3: elbow there on the twenty fifth anniversary of the company

531
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Speaker 3: in Denver. Do you think what we know about yeah,

532
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: years and tangibles that they are equal to all this

533
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: stuff that we're lauding Ortega where we're saying, dude, we

534
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: need you to pick up the game and these but

535
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: when the shit goes down, there's not too many better

536
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: than you.

537
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they might be in that sense not equal,

538
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: and that they share all the same qualities, but that

539
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: in those scenarios they both bring an extra dimension to

540
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 2: take advantage of them or meet the moment or something

541
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: like that. Right, Like they both have this ability to

542
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: lean into that kind of danger in a way, is

543
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: that a lot of the other guys, very good fighters

544
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: by the way, just don't. Yeah. Probably, But in the end,

545
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think about, like what would matter,

546
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: like dude yayir his high flying style, Like how often

547
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: does his back get turned or does he slip and

548
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: lose his balance? Like when you think about orticket, that's

549
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: all it takes. All you gotta do is be misjudge

550
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: your distance one time, slip and fall, scramble the wrong direction,

551
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 2: and the fight's over. That's that's that's the kind of

552
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: moment he has. But up until then he might be,

553
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: you know, just getting teed off on how do you

554
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 2: make a pick between that? Like it's very very difficult

555
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: to kind of figure that out. It's like a Volkanovsky

556
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: has his limits, but he doesn't make a lot of mistakes.

557
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: Max has his limits, but he doesn't make a lot

558
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: of mistakes, at least not kind of cataclysmic ones. In

559
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: that way, both of these guys have all kinds of

560
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: defensive vulnerabilities, but the other ones also have while they

561
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 2: have tremendous offense limits in that sense, and you just

562
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: can't quite see how the pieces of the puzzle are

563
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: going to go together. But to answer the question more directly, yet,

564
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: if this gets to the third round, it turns into

565
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: a dog fight. You got two dogs here, You got

566
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: no doubt about it, Two effing dogs here, one hundred

567
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: thousand percent between them in the end. You know what

568
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: I always say, skills win fights, and I just don't

569
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: know which skill among them that which one has. This

570
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: is the thing I can't figure out bec which one

571
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: of those is going to be the deciding factor. That's

572
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: the part I just can't really get a beat on,

573
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 2: even though I know what they kind of bring to

574
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Speaker 2: the table in that regard.

575
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Speaker 3: I wanted to hit you with a and I agree.

576
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Speaker 3: I want to hit you with a quick PostScript about

577
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Speaker 3: our Wednesday debate regarding the stakes and you know, potentially

578
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: Rodriguez getting a storyline. We also laid out, Hey, what

579
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: if Fortago wouldn't spectacularly, could Josh Emmitt be sent to

580
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: the back, you know, to the on deck circle once more?

581
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: I went back and I did listen to Emmett, which

582
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: if the fans can do right now? In our Room

583
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 3: Service Diaries two point zero sit down from just a

584
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: couple weeks ago in Vegas for a story I was

585
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: writing for CBS Sports about you know, who does deserve

586
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: it right now? And you know, if ya Year gets

587
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 3: the win and Luke, it is deeper. You know, we

588
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: we we've already gone on a record and said we kind

589
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: of we feel like emmittt deserves it.

590
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: Five wins in a row.

591
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: I know a couple of those have been close, but

592
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: he has just God, he has given everything he freaking

593
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: has to these and they've been against you know, top

594
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: rated guys, although he admits he's yet to be given

595
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 3: the chance to fight the truly and that's the door

596
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: he's trying to kick in. But part in his chat

597
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: with us, Luke about you asked him specifically, what's the

598
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: case against ya Year or Tega getting the shot? He

599
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 3: not only talked about the fact that they're both coming

600
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: off defeats, but he brought up the inactivity, and he

601
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: brought up Luke not in the solar grapes way, but

602
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: in a more reality, realistic way of what he feels.

603
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: How the UFC rankings, which we always have said, you know,

604
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: take a grain assault in terms of what they mean,

605
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: how they're put together all that, but how they play

606
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 3: into this because it's like, you know, it's UFC's philosophy

607
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: to take somebody who just lost the title shot and

608
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: keep them at number one, even though we wouldn't agree

609
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: right now that Ortega in reality is probably the number

610
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: one contender for this time.

611
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: No, we just saw him lose his title shot.

612
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 3: But particularly about that layoff, here's what Josh's case kind

613
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: of comes even more cemented in further Luke, It's like,

614
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeahyer has lost, has fought just once in the past

615
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: thirty two months, and it was a loss. Ortega has

616
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: fought just twice in the past forty two months after

617
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: missing two years before, you know, as part of that,

618
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: or I'm sorry as before that, and now you know

619
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: one of the most recent one is a loss. Emmett

620
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: has claimed that his ranking has changed, even like he'll

621
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: win a fight, they'll give him a new ranking and

622
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 3: then by the time he goes to his next night

623
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: and he shows up on TV, the rankings completely can

624
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: be completely different than they were. Like, are we at

625
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: a point now where not only should em get the case,

626
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: but when you dig deeper, it's like, damn this this

627
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: is really a uh meritocracy of marketing, and that's it.

628
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: Luke that I mean, none of these guys are frauds.

629
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I know that's not what you're saying,

630
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: but just to be clear, like, you know, we're talking

631
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: about three very high level guys. But yeah, this is

632
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: what I always go back to. It's like, dude, you know,

633
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: you have to divorce whatever sympathetic or negative feelings you

634
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: might have about a fighter when assessing readiness, capability, or

635
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: their their deservedness for a title shot. The argument for

636
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: Yaeir and or Tega, it's not that there isn't one.

637
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: You can make one and depending on what again, we'll

638
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: see what happens on Saturday. If one of them gets

639
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: a spectacular win, certainly you have to, you know, make

640
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: account of that and what that might mean. But the

641
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: argument again against Josh Emmett is not nearly as strong

642
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: as the argument to me against either Ortega, who's had

643
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: a shot against both of the current sort of elite

644
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: for the way guys in the existing champion. And yeah, nay,

645
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: here's a different story because if he beats Ortega, that

646
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: would be kind of a big one. And you know,

647
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: and I get those other factors, but like people have

648
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: a real hard time in the sport, separating how much

649
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: they like a fighter or how popular a fighter is

650
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: from what the actual resume says, unless they hate a fighter,

651
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: and then they're very quick to note that, like, for example,

652
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: Colby Covington, who I guess is sort of polarizing in

653
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: that way that he hasn't beaten anybody ranked inside the

654
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: top whatever was until he fought Jorge Masmudal, like he

655
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: had this sort of unearned reputation to be up there.

656
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: Like all of these things factor into the analysis. If

657
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: you just look at what josh Emmett has done and

658
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: oh he didn't beat Cater, Yes the fuck he did.

659
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: It's a w on his record. Whether you will agree

660
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: or not, it is a fucking w on his record.

661
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: You have to accept that and take it into account

662
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: when you look at what he loves, it's more deserving.

663
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: I'm not cutting you off to the floor. I'm cutting

664
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: you off to add to your point and let you

665
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: expand on it, unless it's just an outright robbery where.

666
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: No one accepts it.

667
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: Was it a close fight, yes?

668
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: Right?

669
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: Was it a fun like? Was it a really good fight? Yes?

670
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: When somebody wins a really good fight, even if it's

671
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: by one round the opposite of your scorecard. To your point,

672
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: you can't necessarily act like that's a defeat. Like, dude,

673
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: I thought wit it could beat out us on you right,

674
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: I thought Holloway beat Volkanovski in the second one.

675
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: But you're right, it didn't fucking happen, Luke.

676
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: Okay.

677
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. The record is what the record is. And and

678
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: if you're a fighter and you get that w you're

679
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: gonna take that to the bank. You're gonna say, I've

680
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: got this on my fucking record. This is what I

681
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: have done. What have I done? The judges said I

682
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: did this, and that's the only thing that matters in

683
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: the end. You can, of course couch that in terms

684
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: of what it might mean for future matchups and all

685
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Fine, fine, no problem. The reality

686
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: is this, the fans love Brian Ortega and God bless

687
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: them for it, And the fans love Yahya Rodriguez, and

688
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: God bless them for it. The fans don't really seem

689
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: to care about Josh Emmitt, which is bad for him.

690
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: But none of those factors should influence the meritocratic decision

691
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: making by which a title shot is adjudicated. And I

692
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: think a lot of people just haven't fully wrapped their

693
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: head around the fact that whatever else you think about

694
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: Josh Emmett and how strong his case is, it's a

695
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: lot stronger than the case for either of these two guys. Yeah,

696
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: in the co main event, it just is I.

697
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: Mean just the last five alone.

698
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: You know, Emmet five and zero, uh Rodriguez two and

699
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: two with one no contest.

700
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: So you know that is a big part of it.

701
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: You imagine if the role holds it. Can you imagine

702
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: if the roles were reversed and Josh Emmett was coming

703
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: in off of a loss in a fight granted some

704
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: main event against somebody else very good, and Yayir had

705
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: a five fight win streak, and they would try and

706
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: tell you that Yahir didn't deserve it, put the resumes

707
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: on the other people, and try and make that argument

708
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: with a straight face. You'd be laughed out of the

709
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: fucking room for saying something like that. The only reason

710
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: why it floats is because Josh emmittt is not nearly

711
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: as popular as those other two guys. Switch the resumes around,

712
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden the argument becomes very, very unpalatable.

713
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: Uh luke. We know that that Ortega is a beautiful man,

714
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: fantastic sense of style. But you know he shaved the

715
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: head down to the damn bone, looking like the phoenix

716
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: rising from the two year layoff to defeat TKZ. I'm

717
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: told that this week he's got more of a man bunt.

718
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: Look do you think? I'm not asking if you think

719
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: someone's hair makes them better or worser helps them in

720
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: a situation. But like, okay, I am asking you that

721
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: Luke long haired Ortega is the guy. I think that

722
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: that can be the best he can be. I don't

723
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to see that creepy

724
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: ball guy again.

725
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: Okay, creepy ball guy put TKZ on skates though.

726
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, But as we talked about, right as we talked

727
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: about Luke grow, you know, b Sampson, grow that Haro

728
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: and finally Luke regarding Ortega, And you're not gonna you're

729
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: not gonna want to answer this question. But Luke, when

730
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 3: it comes to his game outside the cage, does he

731
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: even try?

732
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: And I know he probably doesn't have to try very

733
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: much when you're in.

734
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: He doesn't have to such an artist that he that

735
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: on top of the fact that he doesn't have to

736
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: try to make it work. He might try a lot

737
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: on top of that, just to be the best.

738
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: Luke, I'm gonna I'm gonna spoil one thing from our

739
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: talk with your Rya Faber And we may have already

740
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: said this. I don't even remember, but we had a

741
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 2: long sit down with your ry Favorite. It's great, it'll

742
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: be out whenever it's out. But one of the things

743
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 2: that we said was like, you know, when you blew

744
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: up in popularity there wasn't social media at the time,

745
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: but you know, did it really you know, improve your

746
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: your ability to you know, have a good relationships with

747
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: the ladies. And he was like, He's like, well, it

748
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: didn't hurt, but like nothing really changed. And we were like, oh.

749
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: Right, dismissive, We're zero, Like here's how I remember it,

750
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. He basically turns to us

751
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 3: and goes, well, and you know, I never had a

752
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 3: problem with that to begin with, So nothing changed, and that's.

753
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: Me and BC are like desperate for any kind of

754
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: lottery system, you know, And he was like, yeah, we

755
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: don't need that. I assume or TAGA operates under a

756
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: similar model.

757
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: And you and I are the same age as Favor,

758
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: and I know he's a you know, he's an alpha male.

759
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: He's team Alpha Male, right, I know he is. He's

760
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: different than us. But you know, you have a good

761
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: hair day with the gel, you put on a good shirt.

762
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: You know.

763
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: Me in that spectacular all the smoke jumpsuit that I

764
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: had on with Kiyosa, I mean, Luke, in that moment,

765
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: I'm feeling it. But when when Faber said that, boy

766
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: did I shrivel like it was a cold day at

767
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: the pool? Luke?

768
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: You know what I was with you? All right?

769
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: Anything else on this main event, Lucor, can we keep on?

770
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: Let's move Let's move it along, all right?

771
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: This cold main event very interesting.

772
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 3: Michelle Waterson, who we talked about on Wednesday in great shape,

773
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: lost three of four to the Elite. The only win

774
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: that Switt decision in Angela Hill. But she's leaving no

775
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: stone unturned, it seems. At age thirty six and another

776
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: maybe her final, probably her final, big time opportunity to

777
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: make the leap. Luke shall be a plus two to

778
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 3: seventy five underdog against a minus three thirty.

779
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: Amanda Lemos, who had that wind.

780
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 3: Streak that we talked about, suffered the stoppage loss to

781
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 3: Androge can really bounce back into that larger picture.

782
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: With a win.

783
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: Here, Luke, talk to me style wise, I be looking

784
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: out four heading into this women's flyweight matchup.

785
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 2: I would imagine Lamos, who's pretty strong her.

786
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: Huh, strawweight, strawweight, I'm sorry.

787
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: Ye, I would imagine Lemos, who's pretty strong as well.

788
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: Like for Watersin, what's the two best ways she's gonna win?

789
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: Kicking you and keeping the distance like stick and move,

790
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: you know, that's one way she's gonna win. Or she

791
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: could potentially win by takedown finding the back of that

792
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: kind of thing. I tend to think the takedowns are

793
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: not gonna be that easy for her. Limos she has

794
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: a near ninety percent takedown defensive rate. She's I think,

795
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: naturally stronger in this weight class in ways that Watersin

796
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: is not so to me. I mean, mixing that in

797
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: probably will play a role like some kind of stifling

798
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: work along the fence line. But really it's about keeping.

799
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: It's about it's about volume, I think, and about range. Now,

800
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 2: the part about that this trouble for her is that

801
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: Waterson has a negative differential as well. She absorbs four

802
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: point three four point one three excuse me, strikes per

803
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: minute and then only lands three point five to seven,

804
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: whereas Lamos is the other way around. She lands over

805
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: five and then absorbs just a little bit over four.

806
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: So you know, she's got a positive differential, and she

807
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: hits a lot harder. She has takedowns herself, she has

808
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: better take down accuracy, better takedown defence. This is a

809
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: tough one for Michelle Waterson to win. There's not to

810
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: me a very clear path unless she can really use speed, movement,

811
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: accuracy and a very disciplined footwork game to stay either

812
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: off the fence for defensive wrestling situations or to be

813
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: able to land and get out of the way. But

814
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: to the extent that she's flat footed kicks or caught

815
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: pressed against the fence inside boxing range, you know, this

816
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: is not to me a very winnable fight.

817
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: Look what is the physical change here, The fact that

818
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 3: she's you know, she's shown us in UFC's putting out

819
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: photo spreads of her. Right, She's a beautiful lady. We

820
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: love Michelle Waterson, a great, you know, poster for who

821
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 3: a fighter should be. But this whole thing about going

822
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: all in here, will it lead in your eyes to

823
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 3: a more desperate style, not recklessly desperate, but a more

824
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: like I got nothing else to lose, I'm coming for it.

825
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: I doubt it. That's really not been her mo. She

826
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: definitely tries hard. I don't think she's some kind of

827
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: quitter or anything like that. But I mean, you know,

828
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: and again everyone's like, well, she can naturally make one

829
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: fifteen now in a way she couldn't before. Fine, But

830
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: even then, I don't think you could not call her

831
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: like big for the weight class, very very strong for

832
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: the weight class. Now this camp could be different. We'll

833
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: have to see how things go. But you know, I

834
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: do think that she is out gunned, so to speak,

835
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: in that way. She is going to have, to me, yes,

836
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: have the physicality necessary to defend herself in all the

837
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: various ways in which that would be significant. But to me,

838
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: the thing that matters is speed, footwork, agility inside outside movement, angles,

839
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: really landing, not getting hit, getting out of the way,

840
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 2: resetting in the center, that kind of a thing, any

841
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: kind of close quarters action. I have a hard time

842
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: seeing how she can not get like totally get her

843
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: ass kicked, but like how she would turn the corner

844
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: in that way, get use that to level up, so

845
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: to speak. I just feel like she's at a major disadvantage.

846
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: Bluke saying too in subliminally to the fan. Bet big

847
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: on Brazil and bet it right now. But Luke, the

848
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 3: Karate hate healthy this time. That's been a big part

849
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: of it. And she caught up with a correspondent of

850
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: Morning Combat. You may know him as the Prince of Persia.

851
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: Really one of my favorite French Canadian born journalists in

852
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: the game today, Shaquille Masoori. Here's Michelle Waterson talking about

853
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: the comeback trail into this fight.

854
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 4: It did suck. It's heartbreaking. In fight camp, there are

855
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: going to be injuries that you can work through, you know,

856
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 4: and there are going to be some that you can't.

857
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: And you know, for anybody that I've ever known to

858
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 4: be a real fighter will try and fight through injuries.

859
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: And you never really go into a fight one hundred percent.

860
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: There's always gonna be little bumps and bruises here and there,

861
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 4: because you can't. You can't be in a combat sport

862
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 4: and not take bumps and bruises. But this one was

863
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: just it. It wasn't going away, and it was getting worse,

864
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 4: and I had to make a desc decision. You know,

865
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: I've been fighting professionally for over fifteen years now, and

866
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 4: I you know, I had to make a decision. Am

867
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: I going to wreck my body and you know, let

868
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: the last couple of my fights take a toll on

869
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 4: that because because I want to fight on a certain date,

870
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 4: or am I going to let my body heal and

871
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 4: come out guns and blazing and do what.

872
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: I want to.

873
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: Luke. Of course, that's reference to her pulling out of

874
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: the March fight that was scheduled against Amanda hebas Do

875
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: an undisclosed injury. But she seems back now we know

876
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 3: about her. You know, maybe she didn't reach that full

877
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: star potential, but we love her and she's fought everybody

878
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: there is Luke across the board, and you know with

879
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: that comes with dealing some of the baggage of the sport.

880
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: So we said, look, with a loss here, maybe this

881
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 3: is the last time we see her in this type

882
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: of fight with the potential to make a move up

883
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 3: the rankings into title potential. Doesn't mean she necessarily retires.

884
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: Depending on how this fight goes down, anything can happen.

885
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: We'll find out. Let's let her tell that side of

886
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 3: the story as Jessica. I did Luke two weeks ago. Okay,

887
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: so here we're gone evil.

888
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: Here we're gone.

889
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: But let's hear Michelle talking about here. She's a very

890
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: veteran of this game.

891
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 4: And I think it's important for other people on the

892
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 4: outside to see, like how much, how much fighting does

893
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: take out of a person is very all consuming. It

894
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 4: is not just you know, it is not just something

895
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: that you can pick up and put down. It's not

896
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: like a regular job where you can come home and

897
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, blow off some steam, crack open

898
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: a beer and forget about your job. It follows you.

899
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 4: It's like your shadow, you know, even if you want

900
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: to stop thinking about it, if you're not working out,

901
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: if you're not training, if you're not improving, evolving, getting better,

902
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 4: somebody else is and not just to not just to

903
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: take away your money, but to beat your ass, you know.

904
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 4: So it's like it follows you, and you know, after

905
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 4: you know, fifteen years, two decades, it can be taxing

906
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 4: on your body, your mind, your spirit.

907
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a brutal fight game.

908
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

909
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 3: If you want more on that, check out check Shack's

910
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: MMA channel on YouTube. I believe it's called SHK MMA. Luke.

911
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: When she's talking like that, do you feel like she

912
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: could potentially pull the ultimate power move. Let's say she

913
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 3: pulls off an upset, feel good win and then walk

914
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: away right there on her own terms.

915
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: No, No, if she wins, she's gonna keep going. But

916
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 2: on the other hand, like a lot of people, she's

917
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: been training with the Jackson Wing for a lot. I mean,

918
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly what her affiliation is anymore, but

919
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of her contemporaries for a time.

920
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: You know, they are calling acquits. You know, Seroni calling aquits.

921
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people of that generation who fought

922
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: in the aughts a little bit or post aughts into

923
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 2: the teens, who are now getting out of the fight game.

924
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: Thirty six is not young, it's not super. It's still

925
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: you can do some stuff with it, for sure, but

926
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: you know, if you can't beat the mandal emotion again,

927
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: this is a ten versus eleven. Now you drop out

928
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 2: of the top ten. And we talked about it on Wednesday,

929
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: she's the one she's lost to have been champions and

930
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: like very very good fighters, fair enough, like okay, they're

931
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: really great, but this is a step down from that.

932
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: What happens, then we're gonna find out.

933
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: Look, if someday, you know, let's say she walks away

934
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: from the sport and journalists reach out to you, you know,

935
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: radio host like Luke Thomas, What is the essence the

936
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: legacy of Waterson? I don't want you to answer that question.

937
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: But how high up in the top ten would that level?

938
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 4: Up?

939
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: Video she had with Holly Holm on Instagram that time

940
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: that went fire? How high does that factor into your list?

941
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: I don't even know what what you're talking about.

942
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, we'll keep going.

943
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: We'll move on Luke to close there. Shout to Shaq.

944
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: Mma, you got a chance to meet our colleague in person?

945
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: Does he come off.

946
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: Less cool or more cool?

947
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: Because you found out that he regularly attends like EDM

948
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 3: festivals in full cosplay?

949
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: Oh? I didn't know he did that, did he?

950
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

951
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah he does, And that's his personal choice.

952
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: You know, we love that guy.

953
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: But all right, well listen, I mean here's the thing

954
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: I will say about it. Do I think that's cool? No?

955
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: I definitely don't. But the reality is, I don't have

956
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: a fucking idea what's cool.

957
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're like this in COVID for ten days

958
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: and I'm a piece of shit. Yeah, what's cooler than that?

959
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: Right? You know what I mean? People like people are like,

960
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: oh is that? What do you think about this? When

961
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: you think about that, I'm like, dude, I'm cool. Left

962
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: me a long time ago. Like, I don't fucking know.

963
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: So if it makes you happy, go ahead, man, Look,

964
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: let's keep.

965
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: It going here. If I asked you which UFC welterweight

966
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: is currently thirty eight years old and riding a five

967
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: fight win streak, would you have the answer for me?

968
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: Welterweight thirty eight years old on a five fight win streak. No,

969
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 2: not off hand.

970
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: Hey, how about Muslim Solikov entering this matchup with the

971
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: leech Luke? He is a minus one sixty five favorite

972
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: against a gean long who's fresh off that law, the

973
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: destructive law to Hamzat Chimayev Luke, is this gonna be

974
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: a sneaky.

975
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: Great fight here?

976
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: Or what? They got a lot to fight for now?

977
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: It could be. It's just an issue of to what

978
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: extent Salakov I think could fight off close quarters or

979
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: the takedown at range. You know, Salakov is very precise, careful,

980
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: doesn't have a ton of volume, but you know, it

981
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: is obviously very very gifted. Uh you know, Li jiang

982
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: Lang has skills, to be clear, but it's a little

983
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: bit more of a wild man, you know, I feel

984
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: like in that way. So it's really like, what does

985
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 2: the fight look like? Does it look chaotic and blah

986
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: blah blah or does it look more like what a

987
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: Muslim Salakov fight might look like? Depending on the complexion,

988
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: We'll tell you who's kind of defining it. I tend

989
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: to think Salakov should get it done, but it's an

990
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: interesting question just the same.

991
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm excited about it, Luke, I'm gonna

992
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: be looking forward to this one, but not nearly as

993
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: excited I am about Shane Burgos Charles Air Jordan in

994
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: this featherweight division. We laid out the storyline Jordan can

995
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: make a hell of a Burgos can put it all

996
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: on the tracks and re establish himself here. We think

997
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: we're gonna get a lot of action, at least I do.

998
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: You may have differed from me on that. Who are

999
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: you leading toward? Who are you edging? Because Burgos, like

1000
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: I said, minus one sixty five favorite over the plus

1001
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: one forty Jordain, who wins in why Luke, because I'm

1002
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 3: gonna be tied into this one time me U.

1003
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: Luke Burgos is uh, this is a I think the

1004
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: last fight on his contract if I'm not mistaken, So

1005
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: high stakes for him, very high stakes for him. Do

1006
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: listen to these numbers. Now, here's the bad news for

1007
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: Shane Burgos. He absorbs six point seven strikes per minute. Dude,

1008
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 2: that is insanely fucking high. That is really really high.

1009
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: Here's the good news for Shane Burgos. He lands about eight,

1010
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 2: which is about like double a what a ranked fighter

1011
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: lands in any weight class on average in the UFC.

1012
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: I mean, my man is out there dealing right Jordain,

1013
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: who by the way, has a high rate of five

1014
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 2: point six in terms of landing absorbed at four point five.

1015
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: So they both got positive differentials, although slightly more measured

1016
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: Burgos slightly more willing to take damage to dish it

1017
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: out Burgos. Here's the thing for me, ninety one percent

1018
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: takedown defense. My man has good takedown defense. For that reason.

1019
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: For that reason, I might lean a little bit towards

1020
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 2: Burgos here. I think Jordan is coming into his own

1021
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: and probably is a little bit more offensively well rounded.

1022
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: He has a little bit more weapons in a few

1023
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: different ways that either Burgo has and doesn't use or

1024
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: just doesn't really have that much. Like there's just not

1025
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: it's not clear what the story is there because he

1026
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: just kind of fights sort of the way he fights

1027
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: in one way in the boxing range. But I don't know, man.

1028
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: I've he's battle tested, He's fought very good guys. I

1029
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: think he's fought better guys in fact then Charles Jordan.

1030
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna lean ever so slightly towards Burgos, but

1031
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: I recognize that the Jordain we saw, maybe you know,

1032
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: in his early UFC part of his run three fights

1033
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: ago whatever against like Julian Rosa, he's a different guy now.

1034
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: It seems like I'm I'm curious to see how this

1035
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: one goes. But I think Burgos got a little bit

1036
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: more in the tank for him in terms of offensive firepower.

1037
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 3: The thing I love about Burgos and I always will,

1038
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: and that's why I love that fight with them at

1039
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: so much is I mean, a lot of fighters go

1040
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: after it. A lot of fighters are wild and reckless,

1041
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: some because they only know that way, some because they

1042
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: have to to fight at this level. But you know,

1043
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: here's a guy who can fight at the elite level.

1044
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: But Luke, when it's time to go, man, he goes.

1045
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: I mean he goes after it. He leaves no, you know,

1046
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: no nothing to chance and lets those hands go. And

1047
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: maybe those tattoos on his shoulders look a little bit

1048
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: like Prime Mike Mark McGrath of Sugar Ray, But I'm

1049
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: okay with that in the end. But Luke, I think

1050
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,959
Speaker 3: Airs your Dana is coming on and it's not gonna

1051
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 3: be easy, and this fight could very well steal the

1052
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: entire show. I get what you had said on Wednesday

1053
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: about this. You know, does Jordan want to get into

1054
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: a war with this guy on equal terms?

1055
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: No?

1056
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: Right, probably not. But can't he be the fresher guy

1057
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: of the moment and make a victory here? This would

1058
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 3: be the best of this run that he's on, Luke,

1059
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: and I'm backing him back in him right now. This

1060
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: is gonna look like Airshore Dan against the Calves right

1061
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: Game five, that eighty nine first round series. You know,

1062
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: he's gonna turn Shane Burgos into Craig Elo.

1063
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: Hey, Craig Elo had his day in the sun. Folks.

1064
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: Forget about remember the Elo shoes that came out briefly.

1065
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 2: I forget how old.

1066
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: I don't remember those at all. Are you making those up?

1067
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 2: No? Those were real. Craig Elo had his own shoes

1068
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: for a little while. God who made those? I'd have

1069
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: to look it up.

1070
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: But dude, I'm seriously doubting this.

1071
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know me, I'm a nineties MBA, like hardcore

1072
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 3: Louke Okay, not soft core. Nothing soft about this core?

1073
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: Am I am? I completely making it up?

1074
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 3: Yeah you're thinking of Patrick Ewing, Luke. Patrick Ewing had

1075
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 3: those weird shoes for a bit.

1076
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: Ewing had the shoes. Yeah, you know what, I might

1077
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: be wrong about that. I might be wrong about that.

1078
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: I have to be that wrong on Craig Elo, Like

1079
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: I get you could be like, oh wait, I couldn't

1080
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: see there was David Robinson or was it Elijah want Er?

1081
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: Was it Ewing? You're like, no, fucking his own shoe?

1082
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: No? No, No, Here's the thing. I distinctly remember. There was

1083
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: a kid in seventh grade. I was in what school?

1084
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: Did I go to Nashville Middle School in Nashville, Georgia? Who? Uh? Who?

1085
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: Was a huge craigy Elo guy of like all things

1086
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: to be and he had shoes that said elo on them?

1087
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1088
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: Did he make those motherfuckers?

1089
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1090
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: He did.

1091
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 3: Look he's he probably bought avias at the freaking uh

1092
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: local shoe store, right and then wrote.

1093
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: Elo on the side.

1094
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy's. That guy sucks from where did?

1095
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 4: What?

1096
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 3: Did he turn out to be? From? Nash From Nashville, Georgia, Luke,

1097
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: where's this guy today?

1098
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: Oh? He's probably in prison or you know, in somewhere.

1099
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Hey, look, have you

1100
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 3: ever been to the Georgia Guidestones by any chance?

1101
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: The Stonehedge of the South?

1102
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: Uh? No, Georgia, dude, you know my fewt like I

1103
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: left there and was like, I don't think I'm coming back.

1104
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: You know, all right? You ever saw a Stone Mountain?

1105
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: I've seen. I've been in the Stone Mountain.

1106
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jake, the Snake Roberts is from there. I'll look

1107
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: up the Georgia Guide. So there's some weird shit going

1108
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: on there, Luke. Okay, one day we'll find out the answers,

1109
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: all right, Luke, Lauren Murphy and Misha Tate. Yeah, there's

1110
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 3: a lot of stake care. Potentially one of them's thirty

1111
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: eight and one of them's thirty five.

1112
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: Who's who in the ages? Luke, tell me.

1113
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: Murphy's thirty eight and Tate's thirty five.

1114
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: Okay, you nailed that, you nailed that.

1115
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: That won't seem to factor in here.

1116
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 2: Murphy.

1117
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: I thought she had had a comeback fight and won

1118
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: it since the Shipchenko fight, so dead wrong me for that.

1119
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 3: This is her first appearance since then, Luke. This fight

1120
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: was you know, delayed once, but now we have it.

1121
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 3: Luke's style wise, I got some concerns for Tate in

1122
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: this matchup, despite her being a minus two o five

1123
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 3: favorite to the plus one seventy five Alaskan. What do

1124
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: you need to see from Misha Tate's game in this

1125
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 3: revamped version to get the nod here takedowns?

1126
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: You know, before you know, she's gone through multiple nicknames.

1127
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: Cupcake was one, Takedown was one.

1128
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: Well, it was takedown until the first roun to fight, Luke,

1129
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: if you want to be his historically correct.

1130
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, But the point being is she had that

1131
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,959
Speaker 2: was one of those. There was a couple of reasons

1132
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 2: why the fight with Ronda the first one was interesting

1133
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: in their rivals, but there was a question of like

1134
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: because Judo still has something of a fraught relationship with MMA.

1135
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: There was a question of like how much would Tate's

1136
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 2: wrestling play a role relative because I think you remember

1137
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: Tate had fought Marluce Conan I think right before that

1138
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: or around that time, and her wrestling was dominant, you know,

1139
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: and so she had a reputation for it. It didn't matter

1140
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: so much against Ronda necessarily, But it's to me the

1141
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 2: key to her game, like you know, and it's not

1142
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: just wrestling, by the way. So you look at the

1143
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: Holly Holme fight where she couldn't get the takedown, then

1144
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: got it, then found the back, then choked her out

1145
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: in the fifth like this dramatic comeback. It's the combination

1146
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: of the two. But just striking on the feet, you know,

1147
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: especially in her last loss to Kitlyn Vieira, like Tate

1148
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: looked kind of slow and overwhelmed in that department. But

1149
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: in the wrestling, you would imagine she can keep it

1150
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: pretty competitive. She lands about two takedowns per fifteen minutes,

1151
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 2: so not quite one round, but pretty close. The problem

1152
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 2: is the takedown accuracy is thirty one percent Lauren Murphy

1153
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: sixty five percent takedown defensive rate. You would think there

1154
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: might be some vulnerability there. I actually think Lauren Murphy

1155
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: has more ways to win this one. I'm going to

1156
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: lean towards Lauren Murphy, to be honest with you, I

1157
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: have not. You know. It's listen, Tate had a long

1158
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 2: break from MMA and it's going to take some time

1159
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: to kind of really get her feet back under her.

1160
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: Maybe this is the performance where that happens, and she's

1161
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: had some coaching changes and then she's gone back and forth.

1162
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: You know, I talked to Eric Nixon. I think she's

1163
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: fully She was always with the Extreme Coutur, but she

1164
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: had like a different coach inside of it. Now she's

1165
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 2: like sort of back in the more regular Extreme Coutur program.

1166
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: As I understand it, She's going to be ready. You know,

1167
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: she's going to be in shape, She's going to have

1168
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: a good game plan. They always do. But I haven't

1169
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: quite seen the same physical She had a real physicality

1170
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: to some of the early runs she had at bansamweight

1171
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: post Rhonda, but in the UFC when she was even champion,

1172
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: for example, since her departure and coming back, I've not

1173
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: seen the same evidence of that. It's been a little

1174
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: bit of a departure. Lauren Murphy never took time off. Now,

1175
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 2: Lauren Murphy, I don't know if she's exactly the same

1176
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: pure athlete that Tate is at her peak, but dude,

1177
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: Lauren Murphy is a very good fight and is well

1178
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: rounded and very battle tested, and I like a lot

1179
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 2: of what she has to offer. This is at one

1180
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: twenty five, obviously, so we're going to see how much

1181
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: the cut affects Tate and what that does to her

1182
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: cardio late and even when she was able to dominate

1183
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: Katz and Gono Orleans and Gano came back and like

1184
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: demolished her and you know, in an epic fight. I

1185
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: like Lauren Murphy. I think very highly of her. Granted,

1186
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: you're right, thirty eight not a great place to be

1187
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 2: necessarily athletically, But for me, there's a lot more questions

1188
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: about Tate at thirty five than there are at Murphy

1189
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: at thirty eight.

1190
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 3: I think Tate has potential to have some success here

1191
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 3: take it with takedowns, but Luke I offensively is really

1192
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 3: my biggest questions.

1193
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: Can she hurt and finish somebody in a big fight?

1194
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: You have the questions about the way, you have the

1195
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: questions about a lot of things here. I think there's

1196
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: too many reasons, like the underdog Lauren Murphy, and you

1197
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 3: know Luke would would the odds change in a WWE

1198
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 3: swerve scenario in which Brian Kerraway became Murphy's trainer and

1199
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: drove the stolen ATV right to the edge of the cage. Maybe,

1200
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: but that didn't happen, Luke, So uh take getting the

1201
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 3: uh minus odds here, But I do think she has

1202
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 3: the larger hill to overcome. I like Murphy by decision here.

1203
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 3: I'm very interested in this fight. The stakes are huge,

1204
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: There's no question about that. Obviously for Tate to try

1205
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,479
Speaker 3: to make that leap to Chevchenko, given her star value,

1206
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 3: given her name. But it's gonna be uh, she's gonna

1207
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 3: have to press on the gas. She's gonna have to

1208
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: do some stuff, Luke. We're gonna see, We're gona see

1209
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 3: if she can. We talked up huge to this bandamweight

1210
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: pre limb bout. It's a featured one plus one forty

1211
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 3: Ricky Simone against a minus one sixty five Jack Shore,

1212
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 3: who is sure coming the hell on? Luke? Who gets

1213
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: their hand raised? Because I'm pretty sure who's gonna win this.

1214
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: The thing is this Jack Shore has so many skills

1215
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: and is so well rounded and is just a phenomenal talent.

1216
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: But Ricky Simone, you know, he's a fucking freight train. Dude,

1217
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: He's a freight train. I don't know if he has

1218
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: all the same skills as Jack Share. I think Jack

1219
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: Shore has more skills. But Ricky Simone, as we mentioned,

1220
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: is the only guy who I thought could match Morob

1221
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: Dewaalasheelie's cardio at least get ptty close. You know, maybe

1222
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 2: Morob is a little bit ahead, but Ricky's right there

1223
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: in that same kind of heavily weaponized cardio kind of

1224
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: world that he occupies. And you know, he can do

1225
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: a lot too. To be clear, it's not like he's

1226
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: some you know, it's all he's got. I don't mean

1227
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: to suggest that they've got Shore and about a minus

1228
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: one sixty five. So he's a slight favorite, you know.

1229
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: I always say skills one fights. The key for Jack

1230
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: Shore is, dude, he's got to find a way to

1231
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 2: create separation. As long as Ricky Simone is either attached

1232
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: to him or on top of him, or some kind

1233
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: of way where he is connected to him, it's going

1234
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: to be hard for Jack Shore to like do the

1235
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: things that Jack Shorre can do. So, you know, a

1236
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: small little bit on Ricky Simone for folks out there

1237
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: might be a decent play given that he's the underdog,

1238
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: even if I grant that Jack Shaw is more overall

1239
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: well rounded and certainly maybe the future of this division

1240
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: in ways that other folks are not. It's a tough call.

1241
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: That's a really great fight, man, that's a.

1242
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 3: Really tough one. And I've been told, after questioning it

1243
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 3: the other day, that Simone is now going full on.

1244
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: Party in the back.

1245
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: Luke, business in the front, business.

1246
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: In the front. So shout out to him for that.

1247
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 3: But bet Welsh here, Bete Welsh, I'm telling you, Luke.

1248
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 3: So we'll see, we'll see where it goes. I mean,

1249
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 3: what the hell I now? You know, just whatever, Luke.

1250
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: We also you mentioned quickly that opener, the curtain Jerker,

1251
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: is a good one. Just capene here against a debuting

1252
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: Emily Ducatti fresh offer in victa title run. She also

1253
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: fought for the inaugural Bellatour Straw Sorry Flyweight Championship, losing

1254
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: to Alima Ley McFarlane a few years back. Can she

1255
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: be a player here.

1256
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: With a win yeah, I think she could. I mean,

1257
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: it took her a while to get to the UFC

1258
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: and to fully develop her game. She's been with Belatour

1259
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: or she was with Deltour a long time ago, and

1260
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: you know, she had flashes of brilliance then even then.

1261
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: I think she's changed her nickname, like she had a

1262
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: different one at the time when she was Finally, I

1263
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: don't really see her use much anymore so, but this

1264
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: version now is much more well rounded, much more complete,

1265
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: much really leaned into her physicality as well, which is

1266
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: something that was kind of missing Jessica Penny. You know,

1267
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: I thought I had high hopes for her when she

1268
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: went to the UFC, and she's kind of been up

1269
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: to kind of been down injuries. The whole issue with

1270
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: USADA from the stuff she was taking there that was

1271
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: the doctors agreed was totally you know, well within the

1272
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: scope of normal medicine. It just didn't really panned out

1273
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: for her. We'll see. This is a this is actually

1274
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: a very winnable fight in either direction. To me, it's

1275
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: just gonna be I don't know what Jessica Penny has

1276
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: left man. At her best, she has been great, but

1277
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: where is she now? I don't really know. I guess

1278
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna find out. I don't really know.

1279
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.

1280
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Speaker 3: Will she follow you, young young j check into the walk.

1281
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: Luke, Right, it's possible, It's possible.

1282
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Luke. You know Poona's back on that card,

1283
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: Soriano and the feature pre Limb. There's there's a lot

1284
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: of you know, there's some good stuff there, Luke. It's

1285
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 3: a pretty I mean, it's a pretty badast card for

1286
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: an ABC showcase like this.

1287
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: I'm finally you know, the whole card has tons of

1288
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: little I mean. Also the guy with the best traps

1289
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: at MMA, doll Lugiambula, he's on this card and as

1290
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: you mentioned against Loriana. By the way, I think former

1291
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: teammates there too.

1292
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 3: All Right, Lilliam Buga has lost two of three coming in, Luke,

1293
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: So we'll see how it goes here, Luke. Topic number

1294
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: two is the biggest boxing matchup of the weekend. Luke,

1295
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if Crypto's here to stay, but Crypto

1296
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: dot Com Arena the former Staples Center in La is

1297
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: the host. Ryan Garcia is back. We saw him make

1298
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 3: the well hyped, talked about, questioned comeback from so many

1299
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: things against Emmanual to Go went the distance mostly good,

1300
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: didn't learn a whole lot though, given the level of competition.

1301
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 3: Now we got a dangerous former champion and Javier Fortuna,

1302
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 3: a plus six fifty underdog Ray Guy minus twelve hundred

1303
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 3: now Luca at its core though that's pretty ridiculous odds

1304
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 3: by no means does this not represent the true potential

1305
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 3: of how close this fight can be? And you know

1306
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 3: not just from the standpoint of Garcia's got a lot

1307
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 3: of questions to answer still about his you know, punch resistance,

1308
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: you know all of that. I mean, look, you had

1309
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 3: to hit a very serious, you know, mental health setback,

1310
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: which which you know he had a risk surgery. There's

1311
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 3: a lot there that come into that last fight really

1312
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: needed answered. And now with the second fight with new

1313
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 3: trainer Joe Goosen, he's gonna have that chance to answer

1314
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: all these questions. Fortune As the South Paul Luke, Dominican

1315
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: Republic based good counterpuncher lost three times, but you know,

1316
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 3: various degrees of good and bad and those losses, how

1317
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: live is he a dog? If Ryan Garcia doesn't show

1318
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 3: any implosion tendencies in this fight, maybe you're not maybe

1319
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: it's not the best Ryan Garcia ever, But as long

1320
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 3: as there's not going to be Ryan Garcia self enforced

1321
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 3: errors as a potential here, can Fortuna still win. Y.

1322
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: I think it would take Ryan Garcia looking very average

1323
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: and unmotivated for a Fortunea to win, for Fortuna to

1324
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: win rounds or you know, catch Ryan a couple times. Sure, Yes,

1325
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 2: that I could see. I could definitely see him keeping

1326
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: I can see him keeping Ryan Garcia honest that I

1327
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: can see, and taking advantage of this new style. He's

1328
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: like really walking into guys. And again, some of the

1329
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 2: way he fought to go, and I think you would

1330
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: agree with this BC was the fact that he was

1331
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: fighting to go and he's not fighting Fortuna or Lopez

1332
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: or something like that, where he was just taking all

1333
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: kinds of risks that he won't necessarily take fair enough.

1334
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: I still did not think that was a very impressive performance,

1335
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: even though the you know, the scorecards obviously had him

1336
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: winning a wide decision, no problem. So my view is this,

1337
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: if Ryan is a little bit more careful and can

1338
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 2: still have that trademark speed hand speed accuracy, he should win.

1339
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: The question is how comfortably that part I can't quite

1340
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: get because you know who's at the Who did he

1341
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: drop at the body shot Campbell? Louke Campbell, Yeah, Louke Campbell.

1342
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: So you know you can see him and having an

1343
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: ability to do that. Obviously that was pre goosen or whatever,

1344
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: but you know you can see him. There's that same

1345
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: left hook to the body he dropped Campbell with right

1346
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: there on the picture. You know, those kind those kinds

1347
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: of things are still in play. It's just I think

1348
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: Fortuna is gonna make him honest, and I don't know

1349
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: exactly what Ryan's got to overcome that that part to me,

1350
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: with this new whole setup he's got. Yeah, I don't

1351
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 2: know what to make of that.

1352
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: Maybe you do, No, I don't, because because again to

1353
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: go proved in the end that he just wasn't on

1354
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: the level to have a shot at at you know,

1355
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 3: hitting that spot on the Death Star as I like

1356
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 3: to say, against Ray Guy, and it was a disappointing entertainment,

1357
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: you know, set up in the end after we got

1358
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 3: excited about this return here, not against the opponent we wanted,

1359
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 3: but whatever. This is obviously step up from that I

1360
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 3: established on Wednesday that Fortuna is of the ilk that

1361
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 3: he could win this fight without question. He's been a

1362
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 3: guy who's been close to the top a few times,

1363
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 3: won a world title before, but he's also was stopped

1364
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 3: by Jason Sosa.

1365
01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: Right.

1366
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 3: He also, like you know, lose to guys where you're like, okay,

1367
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 3: I get that, but has never really pulled through, you

1368
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: know beat heyesus Quasar's got some good wins, has never

1369
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 3: really pulled through and had a great win. He's thirty three.

1370
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: The one thing even though we didn't get the questions

1371
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 3: answered about how does Ryan Garcia and Joe Goosen gel together,

1372
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 3: is we know Joe Goosen is one of the best

1373
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 3: offensive coaches of the modern era in boxing, so Ragay

1374
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 3: a great offensive fighter. I think if we learned anything,

1375
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: you're gonna see a continuation of that. Goosten's gonna have

1376
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 3: this guy committing more to dangerous you know, big time

1377
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 3: combinations that can get you out of there.

1378
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 4: I got.

1379
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 3: I got more questions in this matchup coming back about

1380
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 3: how much for Tuna can be stingy enough to, like

1381
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: you said, not just have a couple of rounds or

1382
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 3: a moment, but go over the top and win that fight.

1383
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 3: If he can't get it by a knockout because Garcia implodes.

1384
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna be able to throw

1385
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 3: enough punches and stay on this level because you know,

1386
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 3: the thing you love about Garcia, which is also the end,

1387
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 3: going to be the factor that will you know, lead

1388
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 3: to his demise, because it will. He's a gun slinger,

1389
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 3: straight up. The commitment to offense is more than it

1390
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: is to defense and game planning. He's plus in those skills.

1391
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 3: He likes to live on the edge in terms of

1392
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 3: his fighting style. Is gonna be like that, and it's

1393
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 3: gonna be really fun to watch. They're also gonna get taged.

1394
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 3: He's also gonna get lit up. But he's overwhelming, Luke.

1395
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 3: I could see Fortuna getting caught in that overwhelmingness and

1396
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 3: having trouble putting together stretches of big time punches.

1397
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: As long as Ragui is continually moving forward here.

1398
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 3: This could end up being a good showcase, not a

1399
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 3: second round knockout, not a blowaway. But you'd love if

1400
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: Fortuna at the very least can push this to the

1401
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 3: second half of the fight. If it's not outright him,

1402
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 3: you know, on the Vergil pull an upset, which let's

1403
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 3: not act like, this is not possible. It is, But

1404
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give Ryan Garcia some benefit of the doubt

1405
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: here of the questions we do have. God, is he

1406
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 3: good offensively, Luke, And I really trust Goosen again, even

1407
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 3: though he's an offensive coach and you're like, you're throwing

1408
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: a I reckless offensive fighter into an offensive coach's hands.

1409
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: He's a responsible coach.

1410
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: Though.

1411
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: This could be a good night at the office for

1412
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: RAI guy.

1413
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 3: So you know, do I like the minus twelve hundred

1414
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 3: odds if you're back in my opinion here?

1415
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: No, that's not a good bet.

1416
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 3: But the Ryan Garcia show is going to have to

1417
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: get through pretty clearly tests like this to try to

1418
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 3: enter that Tank Davis conversation in sweep takes, or to

1419
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 3: try to take on his former amateur rival Devin Hanan,

1420
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 3: who now has all four recognized titles at this way class.

1421
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: So I think he gets it done here, Luke.

1422
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: But dude, I think Ryan Garcia is gonna be one

1423
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 3: of those guys that it's going to be theater every

1424
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 3: single fight, no matter where he's that in his career

1425
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: or the circumstances, because for him to be that much

1426
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: of a firecracker he's got to go very close to

1427
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 3: the fire very often.

1428
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: I said it on Wednesday, it's worth repeating one more time.

1429
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: I actually like this fight for Ryan Garcia, and not

1430
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: because I think he's gonna win. I mean I do,

1431
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: but again, like he had a bit of a reset

1432
01:05:55,320 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: moment in his whole entire life depression, injury, coachinging, you know,

1433
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 2: he stayed with Golden Boy and all that kind of stuff,

1434
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: but you know, there's been all there was just a

1435
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 2: shitload in his life. He had to kind of hit

1436
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: the pause button on and then find a new center. Like,

1437
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: you can't just do that all at once unless you're

1438
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: incredibly special, and most guys, you know, even the very

1439
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: elite ones, aren't like that. So this is the appropriate

1440
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: next step. The only challenge for ran Garcia is, dude,

1441
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: you can you can win this probably no problem. You

1442
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: better not look pedestrian, that's the issue. You better not

1443
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: look you know, like you kind of eked one out

1444
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 2: one fifteen, one thirteen type bullshit, Like you need to

1445
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: go in there and this is a chance, Like it's

1446
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 2: the next right step in this new path, and it

1447
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: should be more than just winnable. It should be you know,

1448
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 2: you should look good. But he didn't have to finish him.

1449
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 2: But you better look good against to Go. It was

1450
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: so obvious he was better that he sort of looked

1451
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: good by default. I would rather him not look good

1452
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 2: by default here. I would like him to look good

1453
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 2: by application. That's kind of what I'm looking for.

1454
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 3: Uh Luke, I got. I got a lot of fears

1455
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 3: that we're not going to be able to make Cross

1456
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 3: Network super fights for a while with Ryan Garcia because

1457
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 3: you know he's with Golden Boy losing Canelo. Right, Golden

1458
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 3: Boy has other fighters, right, I mean they got Virgil Ortiz,

1459
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 3: who could end up being a STU I mean a frickin'

1460
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 3: st ah at Welter.

1461
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: Wait.

1462
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 3: But ra guys, they're a new meal ticket. There's no question.

1463
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 3: You know, his presence on his zone means so much.

1464
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 3: And you know we've seen Steven Espinoza even I have

1465
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 3: a showtime go on the record in a boxing scenes

1466
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 3: story scene right now when I look at it to

1467
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 3: try to make Tank versus Ryan Garcia, you know, I

1468
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 3: don't think we need his zone.

1469
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: What do they bring to the table, you know, I

1470
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: don't know.

1471
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 3: You know now that Han's with ESPN, you know they

1472
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 3: had that window at his zone to make Ryan Garcia

1473
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 3: versus Haney the built in backstory of them as amateur

1474
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 3: rivals fighting six or eight times, and it never happened.

1475
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: Now, Hanes with ESPN, I.

1476
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 3: Hope Ryan Garcia can hold out on taking that first

1477
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 3: l long enough to at least see him against one

1478
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 3: of those superstars right at a point when it really matters.

1479
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: And it's not like Luke, you can't take one loss

1480
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 3: and come back. I mean, that's not what I'm saying,

1481
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 3: but there is something to him being fueled by his invincibility.

1482
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: And just right now, as I look at the politics,

1483
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 3: even with the great advancements we've had in boxing, it

1484
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 3: may end up being hard to make some super fights

1485
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 3: with this guy. It's just what it is. What it is, Luke,

1486
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 3: he means too much to that side of the fence,

1487
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 3: and if everyone you know, people have to want to

1488
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 3: work with him, and the fight's got to be big

1489
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 3: enough too though, right right.

1490
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: When you represent what Ryan Garcia represents for Golden Boy

1491
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 2: in his own it's not just a fighter or even

1492
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: a very important fighter. It's something of an institution. And

1493
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: we all know what institutions mean in sports. They're designed

1494
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 2: to be preserved. So are they really going to risk

1495
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: things for potential benefit? In some ways, they might, but

1496
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 2: you can see how that's going to be a even

1497
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: more than usual, a very calculated decision on their parts,

1498
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 2: because getting that wrong could be cataclysmic.

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01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 3: So and also, I think you're right if he starts

1500
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 3: getting victories in which he's getting knocked down again, like

1501
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 3: the lou Campbell one, which we don't know yet, we

1502
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 3: don't know. We got to see him against punchers, we

1503
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 3: got to see him in these steps fights. Then you know,

1504
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 3: there's also the potential that matchmaking wise, they try to

1505
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 3: keep him away from these.

1506
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: Type of fights. So we'll see how it plays out.

1507
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 3: If you want more on this topic, Brent Brookhouse, or

1508
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 3: colleague at CBS Sports, has a good feature this week

1509
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: about hey man, we all lunk or see a tank,

1510
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 3: but is it happening soon? We'll have to wait and see,

1511
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 3: right there, Luke, topic number three, Look, this kind of

1512
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 3: spilled out. You know, we played that video and Wednesday

1513
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: show and have you seen the shit with the delayed?

1514
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 3: Have you seen the shit of Dana White giving a

1515
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars birthday gift to a

1516
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 3: member of the Nelk Boys, friends of his son, and

1517
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 3: you know, Luke, there's been a lot of fighter fallout

1518
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 3: from that. I mentioned Lewis Smolka going going ham not

1519
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 3: with the UFC anymore, but being very blunt on Twitter,

1520
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 3: trying to organize the union, saying like, guys, you know

1521
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 3: we're gonna do this or what you know, just kind

1522
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 3: of answering fan questions, open and honest. And then this

1523
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 3: story from Bloody Elbows Tim Bissell, which isn't necessarily overall

1524
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 3: new information, per Luke, but it's some new sprinkles on

1525
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: top the headline UFC paying lobbyists big money as Senate

1526
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 3: closes on bill that could affect fighters employee status. So, Luke,

1527
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 3: I want you to.

1528
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: Kind of because you're much smarter than me.

1529
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 3: You're a DC guy, you get politics, used to work

1530
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 3: in politics for crapsake. But according to this story, most recently,

1531
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 3: the UFC lobbying giving money upwards of two hundred and

1532
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: forty thousand dollars to spend on the Right to Organize

1533
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 3: Act of twenty twenty one, which if things play out

1534
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 3: a certain way, would further take away uf seen's own athletes'

1535
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 3: rights to become employee status and get benefits and be

1536
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: able to unionize. Explain this in a layman's way that

1537
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 3: either says that that's what's happening here, or how does

1538
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 3: this affect the larger fighter pay issues?

1539
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: That is just a headline that's dominating this sport.

1540
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 2: Two bills on either side of the of Congress. This

1541
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: is how it often works, where the House will have

1542
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: legislation and the Senate will have a companying legist legislation,

1543
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: and oftentimes if the law eventually everyone gets sent to

1544
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: the president, there's usually an accommodation met in the middle

1545
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: where they can work out the language to iron out

1546
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: any differences. There's a lot of processes by which that

1547
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 2: can happen. So we're talking about Hr. Eight four to two,

1548
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: which would be in the House, and then S DOT

1549
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: four twenty which would be in the Senate. Basically what

1550
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 2: these would do if passed, and again you understand something

1551
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: there's gonna be if it ever. First of all, it

1552
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: has to get out of committee, and then it gets

1553
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 2: out of committee, there's all different kinds of markups that

1554
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 2: could happen to change it add things. There's a lot

1555
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: of ways this could totally just completely fail, and in fact,

1556
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 2: I don't expect either of these to really to matter

1557
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 2: in the end, to be honest with you, in part

1558
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 2: because while both of the pieces of legislation were introduced

1559
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 2: by the Democrats, the Democratic Party is, you know, they're

1560
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: not very capable stewards of government. Let's just be honest

1561
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 2: about that. But the point being is this, if the

1562
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: laws got passed, if those bills were turned into law,

1563
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 2: let's say today, right, they got signed overnight or something

1564
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 2: like that, what they would essentially do is make it

1565
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: a little bit easier for folks to unionize or be

1566
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: free from pressure from employers trying to stop them, or

1567
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: they could become employees more easily than they could become

1568
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: independent contractors. It would just make those situations better for

1569
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: the folks who could be affected. Now, there would be

1570
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: ways in which it would apply in ways in which

1571
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: it wouldn't, but it would one of them. The things

1572
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 2: that it would do would it would add an amendment

1573
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 2: to the National Labor or Relations Act. And one of

1574
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 2: the things it would say is that any individual performing

1575
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: any service shall be considered an employee and not an

1576
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: independent contractor unless a the individual is free from control

1577
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: and direction and connection with the performance of the service,

1578
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: both under the contract of the performance of service and

1579
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: in fact. And what you can sort of take from

1580
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: that is you look at the heavy handed ways in

1581
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: which the UFC has to controls how that conduct is performed. Right,

1582
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 2: they make them where the uniforms, they make them do media,

1583
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 2: they make them show up with all of these different

1584
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 2: policies and everything else. Right, if you're under this sort

1585
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 2: of strict control, that would then tip the scales in

1586
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 2: favor of potentially making you an employee on an independent

1587
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: contractor Now even with that, there would have to be

1588
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: a process by which that would be reevaluated and then

1589
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 2: changed like this would be all this is very speculative

1590
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: in that way, but the UFC has a keen eye

1591
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: for these kinds of things, and it's gotten out in

1592
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: front of it. And so they've hired a lobbying firm,

1593
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: a very very very very very prestigious one by the way, Brownstein, Hyatt,

1594
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 2: Farber and Trek ll P, one of the bigger ones

1595
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: in the city. And what they're going to be basically

1596
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 2: trying to do is either keep this in committee, never

1597
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 2: let it get a vote on the floor, even if

1598
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: it goes to floor have some kind of markup change it.

1599
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: I mean they're going to try and do whatever they

1600
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: can through a lot, through a you know, a registered

1601
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: lobbying effort to stop it. The basic point here that

1602
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: the folks need to understand is there's legislation potentially pending

1603
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 2: that can make it easier for indevented contractors to become

1604
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: employed and for people who are trying to unionize to

1605
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: more easily do that. That's really what it comes down to.

1606
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 3: Dude, This is Luke.

1607
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, dude, this is like the For an example,

1608
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: here's something that folks, you consider, the UFC had been

1609
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 2: lobbying the state of Florida to get purses no longer

1610
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: made public as early as twenty fourteen. It didn't work

1611
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: in that time, but in twenty twenty one, and in

1612
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 2: fact did and folksmen, I remember, how did this happen.

1613
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: They convinced the Commission to agree that it was a

1614
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: trade secret, that the pay that they were putting out

1615
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: was a trade secret that deserved protection for anti competitive

1616
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: or for rus should say, for competitive purposes, which is

1617
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 2: about the most ludicrous fucking thing I've ever heard in

1618
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 2: my life. I mean, anyone with half a brain cell

1619
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: realizes that is the flimsiest logic ever. It has nothing

1620
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: to do with the logic. It just has to do

1621
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 2: with power. The big takeaway that folks understand is not

1622
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: that the UFC is doing anything illegal. This is all

1623
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: quite above board. They're registering it. You can see all

1624
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 2: the disclosure forms. It's all legal like this is not

1625
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: and any kind of underhanded thing in that way. But

1626
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 2: when I hear fighters get out there and then defend

1627
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 2: fighter pay, it blows my fucking mind because what they

1628
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 2: are doing behind the scenes are taking acts by virtue

1629
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: of their power and their connections to government and the

1630
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 2: ways in which they can influence it to make purses

1631
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,959
Speaker 2: not go public, to find ways to not allow expansion

1632
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: of rights of independent contractors, to make it harder, in fact,

1633
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 2: to unionize. And then the fighters turn around and invent

1634
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 2: some kind of logic that's like, oh no, the UFC's

1635
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: actually done this, right, dude. How is it possible that

1636
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 2: the caged birds are singing the songs of their captors.

1637
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: It's it's unfathomable that they would do these things, but

1638
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 2: they do well.

1639
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 3: It is because of what I always talked about, the

1640
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 3: have and the have nots the one percent. They make it.

1641
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 3: They set up the structure so that you blood, you

1642
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 3: shed blood, tears, you know, in your life to get

1643
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 3: to that one percent, and then when you do, you're like,

1644
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 3: why am I going to rock the boat? That's one,

1645
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 3: but two, you know Lewis Smolka and his many responses

1646
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 3: on Twitter to questions and fans.

1647
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: Trying to rip them.

1648
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 3: I mean, fans are caught up in this sort of

1649
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 3: same Stockholm syndrome as well, Luke, who just attack these

1650
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 3: fighters if they do go public with it, like you're like, what, but.

1651
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: What he said was Okay, if I go public with.

1652
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 3: It at any point, then they're gonna make me wait,

1653
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 3: you know, eleven months and nine tenths of the maximum

1654
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 3: that they can before then offering me the hardest fight

1655
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 3: in the division and saying we offered it to you,

1656
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 3: and then you'll get black balled and put back. And

1657
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 3: that is the control and this non Ali Act era

1658
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 3: that you know UFC has, and that's why guys like

1659
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 3: smoke or saying okay fight or paying all. But let's

1660
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 3: we should be really organizing and fighting against the Ali Act,

1661
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 3: which we've talked about a lot, or fighting for the

1662
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 3: ali act. Excuse me, but look in the most layman

1663
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 3: terms possible for people like me and you know, people

1664
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 3: that come from factory towns. Is this as simple as

1665
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 3: saying the UFC is criticized constantly for not paying enough,

1666
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 3: is investing money government legislatid chitchley to ensure long term

1667
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 3: that they won't have to pay more, and to make

1668
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:06,879
Speaker 3: further complicate the chain of you know, of necessary timeline

1669
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 3: of events that would need to happen if fighters ever.

1670
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: Did get it together.

1671
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: Dude, this is not only some like Vince mc not

1672
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 3: as grimy as fuck. It's not only some Vince McMahon

1673
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 3: playbookshit on how to treat independent contractors right and not

1674
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 3: actually make them employees. But Luke, isn't this the history

1675
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 3: of the Ferchida Brothers and station casinos and a big part,

1676
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 3: if not the exact reason why UFC wasn't made legal

1677
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 3: in the state of New York until twenty sixteen. Right?

1678
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 3: I know, Sheldon Silver's got other skeletons in the closet

1679
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 3: rip and got handled for it. But wasn't the crux

1680
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 3: of that him rallying or you know, railing against the

1681
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 3: Ferchiita Brothers, owner of the Station Casino for not unionizing.

1682
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 3: And look, you do a little research. April of this year,

1683
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 3: Red Rock Casino and Station Casinos lost a bid you know,

1684
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 3: in a federal case that that basically federal The FED

1685
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 3: said no longer can you tell your INMPL is that

1686
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 3: if you unionize, you're out of the family and you

1687
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 3: lose your job. Like there's like just the most like,

1688
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the the blueprint in the model

1689
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 3: of how the UFC was built. I mean, Lorenzo was

1690
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 3: on the Nevada Athletic Commission Board before the before the Cup,

1691
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 3: you know, Zoofo bought. I mean, it's like it they're

1692
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 3: all connected there. You're right. I don't know how any

1693
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 3: fan or fighter unless you're a fan who straight up

1694
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 3: saying I want the control UFC has because the fights

1695
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 3: are better.

1696
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are better.

1697
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: Right. You make people fight for their live desperately for

1698
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 3: for for a paycheck.

1699
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna get better fights.

1700
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 3: And I and I and I do want to always

1701
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 3: put out there as we always do that for the

1702
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 3: fighters to get what we deserve, You're gonna have to

1703
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 3: sprinkle a little of that boxing bullshit into this.

1704
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 2: Dude.

1705
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: How about how about this, Luke, Do they deserve it?

1706
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: They about deserve it.

1707
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to this. How about this? H Stacey Alonso

1708
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: was pointed to the Nevadasie Athletic Commission in twenty seventeen

1709
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: as a commissioner while she worked for the Fortida own

1710
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 2: Station Casinos, and then spoke at the fi February Senate

1711
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: Judiciary hearing in Nevada in favor of legislation not just

1712
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 2: for this, it was actually wider. It was about transparency,

1713
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,480
Speaker 2: but the fighter purses were included in it. As a consequence.

1714
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: She spoke out on the Commission while working for Station

1715
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 2: Casinos in favor of legislation that would not force the

1716
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 2: Nevada Commission to disclose fighter purses. Guys, this is what

1717
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 2: I mean when fighters go out and they're like defending

1718
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 2: fighter pay, What the fuck are you thinking? What are

1719
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 2: you thinking? Because I can assure you that the UFC,

1720
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 2: who has dialed into all the legislation federally and in

1721
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 2: individual states that could at all affect their ability to

1722
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 2: keep their core business what it is, They're not playing

1723
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: that game with you. They are doing everything they can

1724
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: to safeguard their future according to their vision. And by

1725
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 2: the way, all of this is again I'm gonna repeat it,

1726
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: quite legal. This is all above board. It's just what

1727
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 2: this is what this is why I cannot even I

1728
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: can't wrap my head around the idea that they would

1729
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:05,759
Speaker 2: support their own inability to make meaningful advancements by virtue

1730
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 2: of supporting the very people who are lobbying government to

1731
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: make it harder for their own advancements. Is it is truly, truly, truly, truly,

1732
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 2: mind fucking boggling.

1733
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

1734
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 2: That is what I just don't And this is not new.

1735
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 2: This will continue, by the way, and whenever any other

1736
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 2: piece of legislation comes up in whatever state, in whatever place,

1737
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 2: this is what they will do, because this is what

1738
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 2: they've been doing. This is not new. They didn't start

1739
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: lobbying in twenty twenty one. They've been lobbying or you know,

1740
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 2: hiring lobbyists should say registered lobbyists for a long time.

1741
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: It's all above board, it's all legal. But the rich

1742
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 2: and the powerful pull the levers of what controls all

1743
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: of these things. And to hear fighters say, well, I

1744
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 2: totally agree with it. I don't know what planet they're

1745
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 2: living on that makes sense, because it is not this

1746
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: one like.

1747
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 3: They need to get educated. We have no grudge against

1748
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 3: the UFC or want all these bad things to happen.

1749
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 3: I just want these fighters that we make a living

1750
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 3: because they do what they do in that cage.

1751
01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: Right, watch our Josh video.

1752
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 3: Remind yourself of what they go through in that cage,

1753
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 3: you know, for for you know what a what a

1754
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 3: devison as you texted me what a devison Figaraedo fight for?

1755
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 3: Before it's switching managers. Now he's with the team Faber,

1756
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 3: but you're in the extended team there. But what did

1757
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 3: he fight for for that world title? Half of what

1758
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 3: Dana just gave the freaking milk boy as a birthday gift.

1759
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 3: So it's like, damn, I don't know how you can

1760
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 3: stand here as a journalist and just be okay with it.

1761
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 3: I don't And I'm looking at and I don't want

1762
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 3: to sound over romantic here or whatever, and like, you know,

1763
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 3: who cares about me? Right? But it does kind of

1764
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 3: suck it because you know, at your own personal fandom

1765
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 3: and entertainment side of it, it does kind of make

1766
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 3: that really hard when you know, should we live in

1767
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 3: a world where these guys can get benefits? Like you

1768
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 3: know what, I'm saying like, yeah, yeah, we should live

1769
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 3: in that way.

1770
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 2: They make one point the option. It's like, I just

1771
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 2: want to say one thing. It's this is it's gonna

1772
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: sound like all these guys want to tear down the UFC. No,

1773
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: who wins if we tear down the UFC? Who wins?

1774
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't win. No, I don't win, BC doesn't win,

1775
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 2: the sport doesn't win. Nobody wins if you tear down

1776
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 2: the UFC. That's not the argument. That's not what we're

1777
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: trying to do. What we are asking for, though, is

1778
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: a little more of an equitable power shared world, which,

1779
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 2: by the way, will not be perfect. Fighters will make

1780
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 2: more money and then spend it, and then there's still

1781
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: going to be destitute when they're done. There's all kinds

1782
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 2: of scenarios where that doesn't fix a lot of the problems.

1783
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 2: But for all the problems that boxing has, and it

1784
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 2: has a metric fucking ton of them, and a lot

1785
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 2: of the fights that you want to get, they don't

1786
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 2: get made, or they certainly don't get made on time.

1787
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 2: But it turns out that when you share power in

1788
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 2: the way that that industry, by the way, like for example,

1789
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 2: in certain states where you can't get MMA pursues. You

1790
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 2: can still get boxing ones because the federal legislation requires it.

1791
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: The ALI Act makes it. So. It turns out that

1792
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: when you have some of these complications and power is shared, yeah,

1793
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 2: the product is not as consumer friendly, but you weed

1794
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: out some of the more predatory or unfair or un

1795
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 2: you know, I'm up here, you're down there kind of

1796
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 2: business practices by virtue of how power is shared. You

1797
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 2: have to understand the sausage is made. This is like

1798
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 2: it goes back to like people just want the simplest,

1799
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 2: easiest answer from a consumer perspective, which you understand. You

1800
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 2: understand why consumers want that. But if you take a

1801
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 2: step back and ask yourself, why do you get it

1802
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: so easily? There is no such thing as a free lunch.

1803
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't come just by virtue of how this is

1804
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 2: how it works over here. It comes by virtue of

1805
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 2: the fact that the fighters don't have protections. And if

1806
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 2: you're okay with that out there, fine, you're okay with that,

1807
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,799
Speaker 2: I'm not. I would like a more equitable world.

1808
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, especially when you get to know these great personalities,

1809
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,480
Speaker 3: you interview them, all that stuff.

1810
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: You can't keep that conscious you know.

1811
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 3: In that regard, The final point I'll say is, look,

1812
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 3: it is Dana White's money. The Milk Boys have already

1813
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 3: giving him some stupid gift that they made a viral

1814
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 3: video he gets. You know what, does he make almost

1815
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 3: thirty million year.

1816
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: I don't care what he makes.

1817
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 3: He deserves. He does great at that part of his job, promoting,

1818
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 3: No question, you get great fights.

1819
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: It's not here of the pay fighters out.

1820
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 3: Of his own money, but him being willing for these

1821
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 3: videos to be out there and be viraled and have

1822
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 3: people wanting to live that lifestyle is directly him dunking

1823
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 3: on and pissing on the graves of his own of

1824
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 3: his own athletes who dripped this wet and blood for

1825
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 3: him to have that money.

1826
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: It's open and direct a fuck you, that's the problem.

1827
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 3: I think you take from the whole Nelk Boys headline

1828
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 3: like I don't even care did can't give each other

1829
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 3: gifts all they want.

1830
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn make more Baker as much

1831
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 1: money as you can.

1832
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean, do it? Yeah, but

1833
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 3: you allow that to be posted and you know and

1834
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 3: you celebrate that. No, no fuck off?

1835
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1836
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: Like, no, no, no, I'm not, you know, I'm not.

1837
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 3: No no, look no, look if you're asking me yes

1838
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 3: or no the edges no, no.

1839
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 2: All right, all right? And also like remember, like here's

1840
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 2: the thing. Also, this is why the UFC is smart

1841
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 2: about it. They maintain connections on both sides of the

1842
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 2: political aisle. Like they were very close with the late

1843
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 2: Henator Sari Reid, a known Democrat. They have good relationships

1844
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump obviously a Republican. I don't know how

1845
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 2: good their relationship is like Biden or something something like that.

1846
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: But in general, they definitely try to like give to

1847
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: both parties whoever would be most beneficial to their interests.

1848
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 2: Like they're gonna take Listen, UFC is going to take

1849
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 2: care of their interests. Don't you worry about that. They're

1850
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,839
Speaker 2: gonna protect their interests, but they're not gonna protect someone's

1851
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,799
Speaker 2: interests who aren't theirs. Yeah, the fighters in the UFC

1852
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 2: have some overlapping interests, that's true, but they have some

1853
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 2: non overlapping interests. Who's taking care of the fighters there? Nobody,

1854
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 2: nobody is, including the fighters themselves. Yeah, all right.

1855
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 3: Topic four involves more fighters Luke the PFL announcing their

1856
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 3: playoff card seeds, dates, locations and all that, Luke.

1857
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: We go to Cardiff, Wales for the next card.

1858
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 3: I don't have a date in front of the crap.

1859
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 3: I didn't prepare properly. Ory McDonald magomed Umlatov in the

1860
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 3: main event there Dennis Kotsov against a Bruno Capolosa who

1861
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 3: can use a big comeback win.

1862
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: Here the guy who would be Rory.

1863
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 3: Sadabu Sai is gonna take on Carlos Leah. I mean,

1864
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, I'll just butcher shit left and right, Luke.

1865
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 3: They also announced the London card, headlined by Kaila Harrison

1866
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 3: against Martina Jindrova.

1867
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 1: Did I say Kayla wrong?

1868
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, Luke.

1869
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: There's other fights on that fight too.

1870
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 3: You care? You care at all, Luke, I don't think

1871
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 3: you care.

1872
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 2: Chris Wade versus Brendan Lockman's cool. By the way. The

1873
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 2: big news for me, we could talk about this card.

1874
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: I think it's August thirteenth, August twentieth, the Cardiff in

1875
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 2: London cards memory serves the bigger news for me. Would

1876
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: you see what they came out with today? Like they're

1877
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 2: gonna have something called PFL Europe, which is gonna be

1878
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: like its own separate organization. They're gonna recruit European fighters.

1879
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: The fights are gonna air in primetime in Europe, you

1880
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like it's gonna be its whole

1881
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 2: little separate entity. And they said there's gonna be more

1882
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 2: of those globally, depending on where they want to go.

1883
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 2: I don't know how likely all that is, but you know,

1884
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 2: we'll see about these fights as we get a little

1885
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: bit closer. But dude, PFL making moves, bro making moves

1886
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 2: out there.

1887
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: That's pretty good there.

1888
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 3: And I always kind of lost my track there with

1889
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 3: the dates, but I will be watching those.

1890
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: Love what the pfl's doing.

1891
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 3: This seems like a potential power move of some sorts, Luke.

1892
01:26:58,400 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: They're making they seem to make.

1893
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 3: Them left and right. But they got a lot of that.

1894
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 3: They still have a lot to answer about this whole

1895
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 3: pay per view arm and how that's gonna look next

1896
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 3: year and all of that for sure. But strong movement

1897
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 3: right there, Luke. That is it for our five topics.

1898
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 3: This Friday, We're gonna have a couple a little bit

1899
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 3: of fun. One of the topics we do every Friday.

1900
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 3: If you hit up Morningcombat at gmail dot com. You

1901
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to send us fan subs, which we'll

1902
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 3: get to a minute on Wednesday, but dead wrong on

1903
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 3: Friday a chance for Luke and I to take that

1904
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 3: l if possible, stand up to trial and find out

1905
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 3: were we right?

1906
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Were we did wrong?

1907
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:42,839
Speaker 3: Alright?

1908
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 1: Just one dead wrong today, Luke, what a week for us?

1909
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 3: Right?

1910
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 2: I cannot believe.

1911
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 3: That Kevin wrote this one. Eric and Jacob also wrote

1912
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 3: their own. But here's Kevin saying on Friday show while

1913
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 3: accepting a dead wrong for saying Tyron Woodley kod Dar

1914
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 3: until BC can't help himself and immediately commits another dead

1915
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 3: wrong by saying, that was the last time Woodley was

1916
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 3: on top er. I mean, didn't he be Damian Maya

1917
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 3: after that? But that was the last badass performance there?

1918
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 3: End quote. Yes, that was me hedging just in case

1919
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 3: I was wrong. Turns out I was wrong, Luke Kevin

1920
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 3: says that's dead wrong because Maya fight happened a year

1921
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 3: before the Till fight. BC's faulty memory and lack of

1922
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 3: comprehension of the linear flow of the time is a

1923
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 3: testament to the fact that there's no such thing as

1924
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 3: a free lunch. When it comes to a lifetime of

1925
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 3: gas station hot dogs and tiketos. Dude, if there has

1926
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 3: never been a more fair bit of criticism ever said,

1927
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 3: that is damn right.

1928
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: I'll take that, al I was wrong.

1929
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 2: Bas I have a special dead wrong for you that

1930
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 2: came from one of our viewers named Eric. Here's what

1931
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: he writes. This dead wrong comes from July twelfth, during

1932
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 2: the Room Service Diaries featuring Michael Kiessa. For the entire

1933
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 2: one hour, four minutes and thirty one seconds of that video,

1934
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell's outfit was absolutely wrong. To quote my wife quote,

1935
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: he looks like a twenty three year old girl going

1936
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,839
Speaker 2: to the airport. Why is he wearing that? End quote, Brian,

1937
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: leave the head to toe white sweatsuits to the sorority girls,

1938
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 2: because while they stay the same age, you continue to

1939
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 2: get older and more washed.

1940
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 3: Sincerely, Eric, I mean, look, you know I did wear

1941
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 3: that too wonderful comedic effect, Luke, knowing the pompous nature

1942
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 3: of it, But I will say this, that's some all

1943
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 3: the smoke swag another Showtime digital product which you can

1944
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 3: buy that exact outfit that I was wearing there. It's

1945
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 3: comfortable and feels great, Luke, so you know I'm going

1946
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 3: to keep rocking. It's like the low t one love

1947
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 3: Marley hat. You may not like. It fits great on

1948
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 3: my fat sideways head. Luke, Okay, so you know suck

1949
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 3: me sideways, as a famous man once said, there, Luke,

1950
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 3: all right, but yes, I was dead wrong on that too.

1951
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 3: Same email address. We'll get you your Wednesday fan subs.

1952
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 3: We ran a little late on Wednesday, so we've got mail.

1953
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 3: I think here's some fan submission.

1954
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 2: We have the jingle. I don't know if we do.

1955
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 2: We have the jingle anymore. Gaff, we got the jingle.

1956
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 3: We've got mail, viewers, viewers. Yes, apparently I played thank

1957
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 3: you again. Okay, great, okay, Gaff Gaff high, well, Gaff

1958
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 3: probably high first of all, but Gaff high on the

1959
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 3: Malka pound for pound rankings.

1960
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 1: Right now.

1961
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He's on a nice run

1962
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 3: right right. He's like Josh Immett right now. It's great

1963
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 3: this first fan sub from Nathan. These have been great lately.

1964
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 3: By the way, Let's see what happens today, sup, Donks.

1965
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 3: Last Friday, my beautiful girlfriend Kelsey and I completed a

1966
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 3: forty four hour ten state cross country move from California

1967
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 3: to Luke's hometown of DC. Her family came along with

1968
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 3: us for nearly the whole journey, and we couldn't have

1969
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 3: done it without them. The first photo is me with

1970
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 3: some p one merch downtown on Sunday to see some

1971
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 3: of the sites have included us have not included scouting

1972
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 3: new routes to the Capitol. Also, Luke, we'll both be

1973
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,759
Speaker 3: starting law school here this fall. Nathan's going to George Washington,

1974
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 3: but she, his lovely partner.

1975
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: Is going to heart Howard.

1976
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of both of you guys, and

1977
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 3: Kelsey has semi begrudgingly become one as well. Yes, Luke,

1978
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 3: we tend to like we never went over the women

1979
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 3: up front. We tend to come around in the bad,

1980
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 3: we tend to reach around. We'll get there.

1981
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 1: We'll get there, Luke. Okay, thank you. Yes, if y'all.

1982
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 3: Were to host a live show in this area next

1983
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 3: time that a UFC or heck even a.

1984
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,759
Speaker 1: Bellator card takes place in DC, will be the first.

1985
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 3: Ones in line. And I could even be Luke's new

1986
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 3: DD semper Final Luke, but don't forget that marine stands

1987
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 3: for my ass rides in Navy equipment from a former sailor.

1988
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 3: Thanks for the great work. It's Nathan from Long Beach.

1989
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 2: In fairness, I didn't, but we did get Army hand

1990
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 2: me down gear, which was always my favorite. I gotta say, dude,

1991
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: I've said it before. It used to be the case.

1992
01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 2: You know, you go to Vegas and because of a

1993
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 2: line of work, people recognize you whatever and for the fights,

1994
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 2: and that's that's fun, that's cool. Then I would go

1995
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 2: back to DC and no one would ever recognize me anywhere, dude, Like,

1996
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it's every time I leave the house,

1997
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 2: and you know I have'n' left the house all that

1998
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 2: much recently, but in general, like if I'm out at

1999
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 2: the mall or you know, at a restaurant, do I

2000
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 2: get stopped almost every single time from MK fans Almost

2001
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 2: every single time. Yeah, it's crazy how often it happens.

2002
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 2: Now DC is turning into a little bit of an

2003
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 2: MK hotbed, if you know what I'm saying.

2004
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't want them to notice me

2005
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 3: because I'm definitely gonna be picking my nose when they do,

2006
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 3: or wearing the most ridiculous data outfit possible. I do

2007
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 3: love them though, thank you to the people, and shout

2008
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 3: out to his kids. Girl, Kelsey, I mean, you know,

2009
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 3: if you got it, if you got to have us

2010
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 3: in your life, you might as well embrace it.

2011
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So shout out to Nathan there.

2012
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 3: Let's go to Russell Luke. This is the guy from Georgia.

2013
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 3: Remember he got married with Elvis. As we celebrated our

2014
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 3: first wedding anniversary, we wanted to remind all involved that

2015
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 3: if it's still a debate as two as to who

2016
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 3: the dunk of the year year were last year and

2017
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 3: still this year, we've got those receipts that are just

2018
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 3: as convincing as Luke's argument that John Bones is the

2019
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 3: greatest of all time. Oh wow, a little high court

2020
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 3: shot out there. Pick number one here. Last year we

2021
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 3: went and did a thing in Vegas and had to

2022
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 3: fly that beautiful MK flag. This is when they got

2023
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 3: married with Elvis Luke. Okay, this number one. Number two

2024
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 3: they got married with Elvis has mentioned. There's a little

2025
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 3: recap of Russell and his fine bride there. Number three.

2026
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 3: One of us spent three days in the ICU due

2027
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 3: to a black liver deal. This was his regular room

2028
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 3: on discharge day, Wow, he's just going all out into

2029
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 3: this MK thing.

2030
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 2: Here, Luke, right, coffin, I mean, is.

2031
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 3: Next one? The check up went well? Four bands on

2032
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 3: the vuses were good to go. Does that make any

2033
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 3: sense to you, Luke?

2034
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 2: Is it a reference to like a vasectomy or some shit.

2035
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm glad to see Russell's liver

2036
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 3: turned out well there and five here we hit a

2037
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 3: spot or two that may look familiar to you. The

2038
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 3: first one I got you BC is a little lake

2039
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 3: spot just north of Old Marietta on Bell's Ferry. That

2040
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 3: was the early shooting location of Ozark on Netflix. Nice

2041
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 3: the Blue Cat is a real place. It used to

2042
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,759
Speaker 3: be the Little River Bar and grill now JD's Barbecue

2043
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 3: on the lake.

2044
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 1: And Luke, they saw Baz's.

2045
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:22,719
Speaker 3: Interpretation of Elvis, which was goodish and wearing our merch

2046
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 3: as well. And then finally, Luke, Yes, Luke, we made

2047
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 3: our way down to the Big Chicken.

2048
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 1: It was restored about ten years ago.

2049
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 3: Dude, about apologies for the long form fellas, but like

2050
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 3: Jock Peterson says, we are those motherfuckers.

2051
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 2: Bro the Big Chicken. I cannot explain to you how

2052
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 2: important this place is as a landmark in this area.

2053
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 2: I used to live down the street from this, in

2054
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 2: this shitty old apartment. Man, the Big Chicken is like

2055
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 2: in this area. I swear to god. You'd be like, hey,

2056
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to I don't know whatever, the gym,

2057
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 2: the grocery store, whatever, and he'd be like, where is it?

2058
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: Be like, you know, this is before you know, everyone

2059
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 2: had phones and shit. You'd be like, oh, it's just

2060
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 2: a mile past the Big Chicken, like it was the

2061
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 2: fucking landmark for orientation and everything else. I got into

2062
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 2: an argument with my one of my friends in this

2063
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 2: very parking lot my senior year because he showed up

2064
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 2: fucking late for something. Dude, this is I haven't seen

2065
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 2: the Big Chicken. Honestly, I'm not joking. In fifteen twenty years,

2066
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 2: however long it's been, this was I used to I'm

2067
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 2: telling you, I lived right down the fucking street from there,

2068
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:24,520
Speaker 2: right down the street.

2069
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 3: Shout out. He closes by saying, we love you, dude,

2070
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 3: thanks for being the real deal. Holy Fields. The space

2071
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 3: is filled with a lot of pretenders, but those that

2072
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 3: put forth the facade of toustiness and hyperbole. But y'all

2073
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 3: are the straight dope that this space needs. Keep fucking grinding,

2074
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 3: stay as healthy as possible. Most importantly, keep your conjoint center.

2075
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 3: It's important to tell the truth and be rational while

2076
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 3: doing it, but a little crazy can be fun too.

2077
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: Piece my brothers, Luke. This was a great celebration of us, but.

2078
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 3: Very self serving from Russell here trying to become trying

2079
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 3: to top David Appleton as the twenty twenty two MK

2080
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 3: Donk of the Year. Look, we're only halfway through this year, okay,

2081
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 3: Just just a reminder on that.

2082
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta say I hit one last thing. So

2083
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 2: you see the beak by the way, the beak moves

2084
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 2: at all times. It just opens and closes, and the

2085
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 2: eyeballs go like this, They go like in a circle

2086
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 2: like that, just as a reminder of everyone to if

2087
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 2: you may not know the geography. If you go out

2088
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 2: of the Big Chicken and you make a left, you

2089
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 2: get to Wheeler High School, which is where Douglas Lima went,

2090
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 2: and you go to the right, you get to Marietta

2091
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 2: High School, the old building the new one. I think

2092
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 2: this new one is still to the right. But you

2093
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 2: make a right and then you go to Marriotta High School.

2094
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 2: Where I went. So it's sort of like that in

2095
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 2: between space.

2096
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 3: Probably a lot of dollar generals around there too, Luke, Yes, yes.

2097
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 2: But by the way, so cat A Corner to the

2098
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 2: Big Chicken, so not across the street, but diagonal cat

2099
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 2: A Corner was another shopping center, and that was the

2100
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 2: place that was the first time. I was like ninety five,

2101
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 2: ninety six something like that. I can't remember exactly the time.

2102
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 2: That was the that was when you could go to

2103
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 2: record stores and you could hand them a CD and

2104
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 2: you could listen to it. You remember that, you know,

2105
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 2: oh yeah, And that was where I accidentally stumbled upon

2106
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 2: Far Beyond excuse me, a vulgar display of Power by Pantera.

2107
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: That was where I heard it the first time, And

2108
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 2: you know, I was like, what am I listening to?

2109
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,720
Speaker 2: This is amazing? It was right across the way there

2110
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 2: from the Big Chicken.

2111
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 3: I had the same revelation the first Jerky Boy CD.

2112
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 3: Luke in the back of Rich Brennias car. I mean,

2113
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 3: I was just like, this is the best thing of

2114
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 3: all time. All right, Look, let's go over to tie

2115
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 3: Hey there, Washington, Mighty MK Ultra Team question for the

2116
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 3: Wise MMA Master Luke Thomas I'm currently a year away

2117
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 3: from my mechanical engineering degree at the top engineering school

2118
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 3: in Colorado, and I'm.

2119
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 1: At a crossroads.

2120
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 3: I was active duty in our beloved CORE from twenty

2121
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty twenty, and it fell out of place

2122
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 3: ever since. I was originally an three two one recon contract,

2123
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 3: but dislocated my shoulder school and didn't make it through BRC.

2124
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 3: I've been thinking a lot about going back as an

2125
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 3: officer and trying again, and it's bothered me as I

2126
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 3: didn't make it since the second I left BRC. On

2127
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 3: the underhand, I've grown up an MMA fan and I

2128
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 3: was twelve blah blah blah.

2129
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 1: My dad watched Fabor fights. They were too violent.

2130
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 3: The coaches at his Jim Luke they're now include the

2131
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 3: greats Corey Sanhagen, Cody Donovan, Christian Allen, while my cousin

2132
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 3: is actually the head wrestling coach at the University of Kearney.

2133
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 3: I have a lot of resources to go pretty far

2134
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 3: with a little regional MMA run, maybe further if the

2135
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 3: MMA gods accept me into the tribe. With your experience

2136
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 3: in both and a good backup plan with an ME degree,

2137
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 3: should I follow my dreams? Where I like MMA or USMC,

2138
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 3: or play it safe there and stick with where the

2139
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 3: money is in engineering even though I really don't like

2140
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 3: it in that world, Luke, this is.

2141
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 2: Stick with engineering. Stick with engineering. The problem with like

2142
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 2: going from enlisted to officer is there's a lot of

2143
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 2: ways in which your job can be guaranteed as an

2144
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 2: enlisted guy, depending on your ASVAP scores and stuff like that.

2145
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 2: And I'm sure he did really well on them. By

2146
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 2: the way, which one is is that the guy on

2147
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 2: the left of the guy on the right, do we know?

2148
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 3: He says, Uh, I've thrown in some of my favorite

2149
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 3: memories in the core for Luke's nostalgic pleasure, the ball

2150
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 3: and meeting our medal of honor recipient's sergeant Dakota Meyer.

2151
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, okay, don disciple tie.

2152
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 3: That's tie right there, Luke.

2153
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah. So if you go back to the other one,

2154
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 2: the one where he's in the dress blues, so it's

2155
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:18,799
Speaker 2: he's a sergeant, which you can tell by the three

2156
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 2: stripes on top, and then the one on the sleeve

2157
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 2: means he has at least four years of service. I

2158
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 2: cannot tell what the service medal is. And then the

2159
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 2: red stripe on the pants. Not everyone gets those. You

2160
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 2: have to become an what's called an NCO non commission officer,

2161
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 2: and you get a sword and it's called the blood stripe.

2162
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 2: It's from a famous battle in the uh y're well

2163
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 2: decades ago obviously at this point. But so what I

2164
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 2: would say is the problem with it is is an

2165
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 2: enlistic guy if like you like kill it on the

2166
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 2: ASVAB and stuff like that, and then you and the

2167
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 2: military has certain openings you can kind of guarantee what

2168
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 2: you do a little bit. Uh. The problem with the

2169
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 2: with the officer school is and it's in Quantico, and

2170
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,680
Speaker 2: they divide the class in threes, the top third, the

2171
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 2: middle third, and the bottom third, and in depending on

2172
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 2: which of those you get in, they they each of those,

2173
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 2: each of those thirds gets ranked one to whatever, one

2174
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 2: to whatever, one to whatever. So you could be in

2175
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 2: the top third of your class, but if you're in

2176
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 2: the bottom part of the top third, you may not

2177
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 2: get even close to the job that you want.

2178
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's English soccer loop the EPL.

2179
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, kind of because here's the thing where

2180
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 2: what's a better place to be the bottom of the

2181
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 2: top third or the top of the middle third. The

2182
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 2: answer is the top of the middle third. But you

2183
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 2: can't guarantee where you're gonna get placed. So there's just

2184
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 2: a lot of inherent risk about where what kind of

2185
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 2: job you're going to get as a consequence, And for

2186
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 2: that reason, it's very very very and also dude like,

2187
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 2: you have to be in very good shape to go

2188
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 2: to ocs. So what I would say is, don't do that.

2189
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 2: But that's just my oppression. If you love the core,

2190
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,680
Speaker 2: like you know, one for the common on one for

2191
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 2: the core, go do it.

2192
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 3: Look at the peak of my pos and this. I

2193
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 3: was at a bar and Hoboken and a married woman

2194
01:40:58,120 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 3: kissed me on the mouth and then whisper to my

2195
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:03,679
Speaker 3: here and said, don't be the star of your own hometown.

2196
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 4: Go.

2197
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 1: I think she said, don't be the local mayor.

2198
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 2: Go. She's right, She's right, right, yeah, like jol ra

2199
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 2: merro go go. Indeed.

2200
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 3: Ty closes with a ps hey BC with the BDE.

2201
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 3: Don't let Luke bully you with his joke reviews. You

2202
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 3: stay strong and keep slinging them dad jokes in your

2203
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 3: new balances.

2204
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: All right, Ty, enough enough for you already, Okay, thank you.

2205
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 3: Let's go over to Kaylin, what's up BC and Luke

2206
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 3: Day one fan here.

2207
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: I was in DC this past week.

2208
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 2: Dude, what the fuck is everyone doing in DC? This

2209
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 2: is crazy?

2210
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 3: You you live in one of the biggest tourist spots

2211
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 3: in this country, Luke, I was one of those people

2212
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 3: last month.

2213
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 2: And there's the two Yeah you go back, go back,

2214
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 2: go back, go back. He has to wash the monument

2215
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 2: in front of him, and then over his right shoulder

2216
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 2: to the left of the screen is the African American

2217
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:53,600
Speaker 2: History Museum, which, by the way, people always ask me, like,

2218
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 2: what's a good thing to go see? That might be

2219
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 2: top of the list.

2220
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they every I didn't get to get there,

2221
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 3: my son got ill for a couple of days. But

2222
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 3: everything I did see was it was incredible, Luke I, dude,

2223
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 3: I came back except for the price and the attitude

2224
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 3: of the service workers. Damn Do I love that area?

2225
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 4: Uh?

2226
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 3: Luke Kaylin says, uh, I had to rock the tied die.

2227
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 3: I even got my brother to go tip to tip

2228
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:19,759
Speaker 3: with me in front of the White House. Is that legal?

2229
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 4: He?

2230
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 1: Oh shit, yeah, well it might be preferred. He had

2231
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 1: no idea what was going on.

2232
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,520
Speaker 3: By the way, thanks to Luke for the fireworks show recommendation.

2233
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 3: My family loved it. Thanks for everything you guys do.

2234
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 3: You make my days much better. I knew you guys

2235
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 3: would rise to the top.

2236
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 2: This is where you were raving about. This is the

2237
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 2: World War Two memorial to his back. That was a good,

2238
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 2: good spot to watch the fireworks.

2239
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, powerful dude. You know me, I'm a dunk.

2240
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 3: I stumbled into it not knowing what it was, but

2241
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 3: it's gonna give me and I was like, I felt it. Look,

2242
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 3: there's seriously, there's like a there's like a I don't

2243
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 3: want to say spiritual presence, but there's a presence there.

2244
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the respect for the men and military. Luke,

2245
01:42:58,320 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

2246
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a heavy spot right there.

2247
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 3: It's a heavy spot, no question about it.

2248
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 2: You know.

2249
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I got one here from Gavin's friend. Who

2250
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 3: the hell's Gavin? I don't know. Picked up some light

2251
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 3: reading on the way out of On the way out

2252
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 3: of brew House came with a free audiobook, which I'm

2253
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,520
Speaker 3: happy to confirm is indeed voiced by the author himself.

2254
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 3: It includes all of the interruptions, shouts, screams, and all

2255
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 3: around beer ear bleeding goodness. Recommended for a truly visceral experience.

2256
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:38,799
Speaker 3: It's Tales from Margaritaville by Luke Thomas.

2257
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 2: I gotta say that is exceptional. That is exceptional, year

2258
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 2: old pieces of shit coughing on the microphone. Yes, as

2259
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 2: our own viewers roast the shit out of us.

2260
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 3: Now, Luke, I've never gone. I don't love the guy's music,

2261
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 3: first of all. But you know, as a kid, you

2262
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 3: find out early you want to see like all your

2263
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 3: teachers growing up, like old people just be like pass

2264
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 3: out drunk, like.

2265
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 1: Go to a go to a Jimmy Buffet concert.

2266
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 2: I tell you the truth. I tell you I had

2267
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:16,799
Speaker 2: fraternity brothers who loved Jimmy Buffett and would play fucking

2268
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 2: Cheeseburger in Paradise twenty four to seven, and I wanted

2269
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 2: to assault all of them with a.

2270
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I don't hate everything he's ever done,

2271
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:29,799
Speaker 3: but I don't think his career in song category equals

2272
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 3: the amount of like rabidness people aren't. Look.

2273
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I've gone to concerts of bands I

2274
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 1: didn't love.

2275
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 3: Remember that commercial stretch of the Dave Matthews Band, Like

2276
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 3: everyone went to those concerts. You just went to try

2277
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 3: to get drugs and girls, right. I mean, like, you know,

2278
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 3: you want to go to this guy's concert for the party,

2279
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 3: that's fine, But I can't come out of there being

2280
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna put the parrot on my shoulder and go,

2281
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 3: you know, pass out with my clothes off during that show. No,

2282
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 3: come on.

2283
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 2: Do you know who hates Dave Matthews band? Who? My wife?

2284
01:44:58,840 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

2285
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 2: Wow, you should see you should see her imitate Dave Matthews.

2286
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 1: Reggaet for her.

2287
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 2: And she's more of a metal head than anything else.

2288
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 2: But uh, but you know she goes, she'll like, she'll

2289
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:12,640
Speaker 2: do like this.

2290
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 3: It's what. It's weird everyone everyone our age's connection with

2291
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 3: the Dave Matthews Band is weird because like, you know,

2292
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 3: early stuff great for even the third album Amazing, it's

2293
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 3: probably my favorite one. Luke, it's jazzy. It's weird, it's wild.

2294
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 3: But then you know they then they entered a thing

2295
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 3: where every person that you hate it was their favorite band,

2296
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, I can't get a part of

2297
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 3: this anymore, you know what I mean? And and you

2298
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 3: know things got a little too commercial whatever, and but

2299
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 3: it is one of the things that if you're suddenly

2300
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 3: forty four three, Luke, and you throw it on in

2301
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 3: the backyard while you're grilling. No one's watching, Luke, I'm

2302
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 3: getting down. I mean, you know, I'm good with it.

2303
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm good.

2304
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Dave Matthews. Yeah, it's fine.

2305
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 2: But you're right, they kind of became like all those annoys. Again.

2306
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 2: I grew up in Georgia, so like, you know, they'll

2307
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 2: all the preppy guys, the people who were well off,

2308
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 2: you know, they all kind of gravitated to it, which

2309
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 2: automatically made me hate it. But my brother graduated from

2310
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 2: UVA in two thousand and I don't know where these

2311
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 2: guys all call home now, but at the time, I

2312
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 2: think the violinist and Dave Matthews himself still lived in Charlottesville,

2313
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 2: which is where they kind of formed as a band.

2314
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 2: And my brother would say, like, over the course of

2315
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 2: several years, like saw him here, saw him there, saw

2316
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 2: him there. He was kind of keeping it local, even

2317
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 2: though he had blown up a little bit.

2318
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 3: Our boy otel Berberi, who's on tour right now with

2319
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 3: the Dead and Company, he joined them Luke to play

2320
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 3: the bass parts on number forty one. I've encourage people

2321
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 3: to check out that YouTube clip and check it out.

2322
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 1: I love Oteo and yeah, look the musicianship's great.

2323
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 3: If you can survive that commercial run where everybody that

2324
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 3: was laying like them, that's fine. But yeah, yeah, I'll

2325
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 3: shout him out.

2326
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 1: All right, that's cool.

2327
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 3: Let's keep this thing. Let's let's bury this dead show

2328
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 3: right here, Luke, I got Andrew, He says, how's it going, guys?

2329
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 3: It took my family the Nautical Museum in Norfolk, Virginia

2330
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,599
Speaker 3: for our family vacation. There's a picture of my boys

2331
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 3: and I on the deck of the USS Wisconsin.

2332
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: You know, I how to rep the MK.

2333
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 3: Really enjoying all the extra content lately, keep up the

2334
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 3: good work in ps I have included a PSA from

2335
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 3: my four year old, which I think Luke is gonna

2336
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 3: be on board with.

2337
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Ethan, do we wear gloves at the gym? Chock?

2338
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 2: That's right? What a fucking dad? That guy is not bad.

2339
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 2: Only in chalk only, boys, chalk only.

2340
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 3: Shout out to young Ethan there, if only he could

2341
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 3: get in the ear Luke of Bruce Buffer all right

2342
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 3: and tell that tell.

2343
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 1: Him to his face right, all right? Uh Olwen says, hey,

2344
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:51,919
Speaker 1: Luke and BC for starters.

2345
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 3: It was a little surreal hearing you guys tell me

2346
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 3: on last week's ag one ad read that we are

2347
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 3: heading into flu and cold.

2348
01:47:59,040 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: Sass.

2349
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,520
Speaker 3: I'm sitting in my garden mid July royally applying sunscreen,

2350
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 3: though I suppose every season is flu and cold for

2351
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 3: YouTube washed dads. Anyway, two weeks ago, I dared you

2352
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 3: to reveal what was up with those elusive navel tats

2353
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 3: as well as the Malca power rankings at the beer

2354
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 3: House Live show. For the record, I was joking, but

2355
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 3: nevertheless I apologized. The show itself is a trip. As

2356
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 3: Luke was channeling that Greek life, I felt like watching

2357
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,719
Speaker 3: the last days of the Roman Empire, a glorious car

2358
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 3: crash of drunken decadence in gurgling grievances. Grievance is toward

2359
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 3: tech issues and toward the concept of sobriety itself a

2360
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:42,960
Speaker 3: calmity clusterfuck, some would say a masterpiece. He's included Luca

2361
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,640
Speaker 3: Meme to capture the energy.

2362
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 2: Vaping enthusiast leaves beer House in state of relation after

2363
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 2: what experts call Margarita Gate. Bartender to be quite candy

2364
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 2: with you. I will be having four more. I need

2365
01:48:58,479 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 2: a new drink.

2366
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was a great That's that's a look.

2367
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 3: That's a special version of you. That's an animal right there.

2368
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 2: But listen, I try to keep it caged and.

2369
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to be your Steve Irwin every once

2370
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 3: in a while. Look you think Bendi's hotter?

2371
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:13,639
Speaker 1: Is it too early for to have this conversation?

2372
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 3: All right, let's keep it going skits and bits aside,

2373
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 3: says Owen. The fact that after the show, you guys

2374
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 3: came out with we can and will do better is

2375
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 3: exactly the reason MK is great. Shout out to you

2376
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 3: and the Mulka crew. I can't wait to see the

2377
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 3: next one, even though I live in the Netherlands and

2378
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,200
Speaker 3: probably will not be attending much love it's Owen and

2379
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 3: he's yeah, there you go.

2380
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 1: Thank you, Owen, You're amazing.

2381
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate you.

2382
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 3: Bud Luke maybe the.

2383
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 1: Best fan of all time.

2384
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 3: Webscream aka Christos Cristaforos aka Dad of the Year. Greek

2385
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 3: born Italian by choice, he says, hey, MK, fam, super

2386
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:53,719
Speaker 3: last minute with this one. Hope it makes Today's show.

2387
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:56,679
Speaker 3: It didn't, but it made today show on last week's

2388
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 3: show from the beer house. While one of the hosts

2389
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 3: was getting a buzz, the other dude stayed on mission

2390
01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 3: and kept trying to take MK to Infinity and beyond.

2391
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 1: A true hero.

2392
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 3: Brian Campbell. Yes, yes, that is.

2393
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 2: I say, that's pretty great.

2394
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 3: That's about as good as as it gets. My son

2395
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 3: Isaac revealed to me yesterday that he loves this pick

2396
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 3: so much. He saw me posted on Instagram that he

2397
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 3: saved it in his phone and he wants to go

2398
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 3: to see that movie with me now, So you know

2399
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 3: that's cool. Yeah, So thank you, Webscream, well done. Could

2400
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 3: to see Webscream come out of retire. Look, it took

2401
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 3: your scumbag, drunk, you know, frat version of you to

2402
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 3: pull Webscream out of retirement. I'm here for that.

2403
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:38,839
Speaker 2: Okay, listen, there are surprising ways to motivate the audience.

2404
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:40,600
Speaker 2: I'll take all of them. By the way, shouts to

2405
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: fellow Greek taxi Funtas, who is I'm probably mispronouncing his

2406
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 2: last name wrong, but he plays for DC United. He's

2407
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 2: still scoring even though the team sucks. So there you go.

2408
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 3: All right, all right, Anthony says, here's a small piece

2409
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 3: celebrating Luke and Brian's success on their awesome show. I

2410
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:57,839
Speaker 3: wanted to make this like those eighty sci fi posters.

2411
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:00,600
Speaker 3: I just started drawing and this came up.

2412
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 2: Wow, dude, that's pretty good.

2413
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 1: This is really good, he says sadly.

2414
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 3: This was being worked one as my family and I

2415
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 3: put our sweet and lovable Siberian husky Yaki. I assume down. Oh,

2416
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 3: fourteen years to sleep. I'm off social media.

2417
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 2: For a week.

2418
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:19,640
Speaker 3: Dude is passing. I don't know if this will be

2419
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 3: on fan subs, but willing to send you guys a

2420
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 3: print if you would like contact me. It's Anthony aka

2421
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 3: Rais Muse from Bonzai, California. Bonsall Bonzai, can you blow

2422
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 3: it up again?

2423
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 4: There?

2424
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 3: We might have to make this a T shirt, maybe

2425
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 3: the backdrop of our studio. This is my kind of

2426
01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 3: color scheme. I love this, Luke.

2427
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 2: I can't quite tell exactly what's on our laps in

2428
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 2: terms of what the books say, I can't read that well.

2429
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 3: It's a you're wearing a Bellator Championship belt.

2430
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 2: I'm wearing a w You've got the WBC Green Boxing belt.

2431
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 2: But I'm saying like those books on the like the

2432
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 2: I can't quite read what's on them. But look at

2433
01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 2: the bottom right hand corner you have like the weebel

2434
01:51:59,200 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 2: wobble that has seat.

2435
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I mean they nailed it. There there's a

2436
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 3: vape stick they wow. Okay, well done, well done.

2437
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:08,559
Speaker 2: Right there.

2438
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 3: This is one of my favorites from Ray's mews here

2439
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 3: King of Connecticut, It says Luke. Apparently, I guess, uh, Luke,

2440
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 3: you know this fella, or at least you should look

2441
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 3: if I said which one of our great fans is

2442
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 3: from Mount You, Nike, Nova, Scotia, Who would you say?

2443
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:28,679
Speaker 1: Our French Canadian Bethne JP. Of course Luke.

2444
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 3: Good day MK, staff and fans. JP is back at

2445
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:35,280
Speaker 3: it with a friendly fan to show appreciation note and

2446
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 3: to think our very own BC Sullenberger for only steering

2447
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:42,759
Speaker 3: the droken Delta a Luke Thomas live shit show plain,

2448
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 3: but also for landing that dirty old bitch, Luke. Look

2449
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 3: at how great this meme is good?

2450
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:51,679
Speaker 2: This is this is pretty great. Also the look on.

2451
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 3: So it's my well quaffed hair atop Sully Sullenberger's body.

2452
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 3: It's a you being rescued with a bron and Charles Mindenhall.

2453
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:07,839
Speaker 3: I'm Luke Thomas and don't worry, I'm completely sober.

2454
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

2455
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 2: Wow, Luke, that's a good one. That event. I gotta

2456
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:14,600
Speaker 2: tell you to produce some you know, collateral damage. That

2457
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 2: is of the funnier side have to say.

2458
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 3: Jay says, thank you BC for your heroism and guidance

2459
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 3: during the show and ensuring all passengers and crew were

2460
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:25,679
Speaker 3: safe and sound well aside from Luke's liver. I've decided

2461
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 3: to make a drinking game based on the episode. Take

2462
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 3: a shot every time Luke said to BC, I love

2463
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 3: you, you are my friend. I mismanaged my alcohol intake and

2464
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 3: I apologize in all seriousness. That show was about as

2465
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 3: classy as you guys can get when you apologized, and

2466
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 3: we thank you for your honesty and upfront ownership of

2467
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:43,839
Speaker 3: what happened.

2468
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 1: Love you guys.

2469
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 3: Fan for life representing Nova Scotia on that bitch Luke

2470
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 3: here comes speaking of a bron Luke, Aaron Bronsteader, friend

2471
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 3: of the show, fill in host, friend of Mma Luke,

2472
01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 3: friend of Vinyl Records. He created his own blue note

2473
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 3: style jazz album for you and I what do you

2474
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 3: think here?

2475
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 2: That is amazing?

2476
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 1: I love it amazing, I love it.

2477
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 3: A Brown is one of the good ones there, So

2478
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 3: shout out to old Elvis Costello himself. Let's go over

2479
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 3: to Justice, He says, I thought i'd share a few thoughts.

2480
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 3: I've been subscribed since ten k I believe I've watched

2481
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 3: every video that's been posted. Sadly, I don't have any

2482
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 3: merch or any photos of it to attach yet because

2483
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 3: money is tight. For the reasons below. Just want to

2484
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 3: let y'all know I appreciate y'all.

2485
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 1: When I was twelve years old, I got diagnosed within

2486
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 1: a large heart and a virus attack that.

2487
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 3: I spent seven months on my deathbed waiting for a transplant,

2488
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 3: about one hundred surgeries, two separate six week comas.

2489
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 1: Re learning how to walk. I mean, look, this guy's

2490
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 1: been through it all.

2491
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,480
Speaker 3: He finally got the call in July of twenty eleven

2492
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 3: for a transplant, and he just turned twenty four, and

2493
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 3: over the last year and a half he's had some

2494
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 3: more setbacks, heavy treatments. All that, he just wants to

2495
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 3: thank us Luke for providing analysis of the sports he

2496
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 3: loves and for all the entertainment we both bring. Justice says,

2497
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time stuck in the hospital

2498
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 3: and there's not much I can do for entertainment or

2499
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 3: past the time. While I recover, I get treated for

2500
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 3: an MK and Luke's live chats do a lot for me.

2501
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 3: Don't ever underestimate the impact you have or downplay your importance,

2502
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 3: because it is truly life changing to have something to

2503
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 3: give an escape or at least a break from having

2504
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 3: to face the severity of the situation. I'm in much

2505
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 3: love and respect for everything y'all bring.

2506
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 2: Luke.

2507
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 3: He closed by saying he hopes to get some merch

2508
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 3: together when he gets a chance, and he's sent in

2509
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 3: some pictures of his journey.

2510
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 1: But Luke I was so touched by Justice's story and echoes.

2511
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 3: Of course some of well, my son Isaac has been

2512
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 3: through who's a miracle himself, and as is Justice the same.

2513
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 3: Luke touch beyond belief, not just at his courage, his

2514
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 3: perseverance to get through what's been a tough journey, but

2515
01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 3: look at the smile on his face. Now see where

2516
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 3: he's at. He's factory town, tough as our producer Mike.

2517
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 3: He just reminded me, no question about it. But Luke,

2518
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 3: I don't take for granted one thing. We do have

2519
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 3: an opportunity through our stupid humor to distract people for

2520
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 3: you know, two hours or every two days or whatever

2521
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:17,320
Speaker 3: it is.

2522
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 1: You know, you're not always gonna love us.

2523
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 3: You're dead wrong us.

2524
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make casual in most of your eyes.

2525
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 3: And that's great. But Luke, along of course, with fulfilling

2526
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 3: our dreams, making money, supporting our families and all that.

2527
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 3: I mean it, I don't take for granted one day,

2528
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 3: the opportunity to catch you guys on a wrong day

2529
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 3: and give you something to goof on and laugh about.

2530
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 3: That means the world to me. So to see people

2531
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 3: like justice, Luke, and we got a lot of people

2532
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 3: in our in our live show, whether it was a

2533
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 3: debacle or not, whether you loved it or hated it,

2534
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 3: we had a long line of people that were telling

2535
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 3: us how much we mean to them. And I don't

2536
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 3: know if it's justified, Luke, but I take that responsibility

2537
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 3: of you know, trying to plant something that can that

2538
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 3: can bring a smile to your face various seriously. So

2539
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:04,480
Speaker 3: thank you guys for getting us, Thank you for persevering

2540
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 3: through your own challenges in life. Luke and I, as

2541
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 3: we sometimes make fun of, have our own that are

2542
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 3: very serious at times as well, and we're all in

2543
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:13,840
Speaker 3: this together. Luke, I get a lot of people that say,

2544
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 3: I can't believe you dm me back BC. I'm just like,

2545
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 3: I can't believe you liked our show and subscribed and love.

2546
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 2: Us as much.

2547
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 3: Thank you?

2548
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Luke, super super grateful, glad

2549
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:25,640
Speaker 2: this guy is. You know obviously that sounds like the

2550
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Speaker 2: difficulties are not over. But you want to tell him

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01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 2: what Well, First of all, let me just say, you know,

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01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 2: I appreciate you watching the show and for the kind words.

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01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 2: Keep going one foot in front of the other, and

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01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna help him out a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, what's the least we can do. This

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01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 3: guy is excited to put some coins together and get

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01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:44,720
Speaker 3: some merch when he can. How about you hold that money,

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01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 3: keep it for yourself, spoil yourself. Our producers are going

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01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 3: to get your address and r J. Dunkle Maker our

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01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:54,160
Speaker 3: fine merch. Maven said, without it without hesitating. Yeah, let's

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01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 3: send this guy our best. Let's send him everything we got.

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01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:57,880
Speaker 3: So shout out to justice.

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Speaker 1: Hope to see you.

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01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:02,600
Speaker 3: They tell you to check your email right now. They've

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01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:04,520
Speaker 3: already reached out to you actually, so by the time

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01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 3: you hear this, you'll have that email. We love you, brother,

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01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:09,320
Speaker 3: and we love all of our fans.

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Speaker 2: Luke.

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Speaker 3: Luke, I know that's not necessarily your calling card of

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01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 3: why you're here. You provide some of the best mman

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01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:19,000
Speaker 3: analysis in the game. But it's it's touching, Luke, to

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01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:20,960
Speaker 3: hear that, you know what I'm saying. It's touching.

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Speaker 2: Shit, really no, it's like you just you can't imagine

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01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 2: that when you do something like this, you would ever

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01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 2: have that kind of relationship with anybody. But then these

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01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 2: kinds of things happen and they are humbling, and you know,

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01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 2: kind of in its own way delightful. That delightful that

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01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 2: you could do something like that for someone beyond just

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Speaker 2: the scope of what the job is. So honored, humbled

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Speaker 2: and thrilled to have someone like that along for our ride.

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Speaker 1: Truly amazing, amazing.

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01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 3: That second picture, by the way, is after Justice woke

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01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 3: up from his nine hour transplant surgery, so he's been

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01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 3: through it and he's still coming on. Luke. So Justice,

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Speaker 3: if you're coming on, bro, keep coming, all right, come

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01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 3: and keep coming on. Okay, We love you, brother, Luke.

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01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 3: What a great way to end a long and exhaustive

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01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 3: and probably way too long for its necessary needs show

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Speaker 3: on Friday to set the stage for the weekend. Enjoy

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01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 3: your weekend, sir. Okay, watch those fights, maybe get some sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Well, and by the way, I'm not sure if

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01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 2: you're hosting it or i'me hosting it. We'll figure that out.

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01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 2: But we are going to have a post fight show

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01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 2: post fight show on Saturday following UFC and ABC three,

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01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 2: So be on the lookout for.

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01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:29,840
Speaker 1: That great stuff.

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01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 3: If you haven't already liked us or subscribed, look, it

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01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:33,040
Speaker 3: takes one second.

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01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 1: You can you can, you can mute the notifications.

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01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 3: We're not asking for blood here, but it helps us

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01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 3: continue to grow as a as a brand. Maybe we'll

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01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 3: come to your sitte one day and get to meet

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01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 3: you straight up, so do that. Please check out our

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Speaker 3: other content YouTube dot com Slash Morning Combat, Jake Paul Interview.

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01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 3: You're not gonna want to miss Michael Kis on the couch.

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Speaker 3: So much going on in this case. Shout out, of

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Speaker 3: course to Mikey morms Our producer, Long Island, Luke and

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Speaker 3: gaff on the ones and twos there and Jersey City

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02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 3: for the great Luke Thomas, who who's really the backbone

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Speaker 3: of what we do here. And we rally around this guy.

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Speaker 3: I AMBC your friend and mine signing off for the week.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy yourselves. Take care of this okay, this is all

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Speaker 3: you need. All you need is a clear head to

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Speaker 3: get through life.

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Speaker 1: Take care of it, protect it.

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Speaker 3: We love you.

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Speaker 1: Two war words we out