WEBVTT - How Elimination Diets Work 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.560 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:14.120 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:19.720 There's Charles w Huggy Bear Bryant, and Jerry's over there. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:25.240 So this is the mod squad. What I'm just mixing metaphors. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.520 I can't remember who said it this way, but ever 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.440 since I was researching this, I've been saying in my head, elimination. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:38.800 What is that? From? Oh me? And uh? It sounds 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.600 like a mad doctor. Maybe a little bit of German 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:49.279 and latka from taxi. I have no idea. Well, when 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.040 I think elimination, I think that, you know, the term 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.400 for pooping something out. So it makes me think that 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.280 it's like the diet where you just poop everything out 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:02.120 and you get skinny that way. Oh yeah, I know 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.960 that's not what it is, but that's what I think about. Man. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.039 I feel bad for people with poop problems too. It's 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.520 a tough thing me too, whether you can't or you 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:17.200 do too much, or it's just unpleasant one way or another. Yeah, 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.880 for sure, it's bad stuff. Yeah, and that has to 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.720 do with this, because IBS is certainly one condition where 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.280 one might want and we should do a show on that. 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.600 But where one might want to propose an elimination diet, 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.959 you can say it like that whole time. No that 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.959 I was hoping you were. I'll do one more rule 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.200 of threes. I'll do one more at some point, but 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.480 just out of out of nowhere. Huh, you're not gonna 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.920 know what's coming. You know, there's a chance that you'll 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:49.000 forget to do it again. Probably. Okay, that's the stuff 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:53.160 you should know. Why under deliver, So, Chuck, we're talking 0:01:53.200 --> 0:02:01.040 about elimination diets, Yes we are. And um, that doesn't 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.800 really mean that you poop your your pounds away. It 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.600 doesn't really have anything to do with losing weight, actually, 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.600 to tell you the truth. And yet it is one 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:15.519 of the hottest trends right now in America at least, 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:21.840 if not the Western general. Where you you cut out 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.360 a bunch of foods and then you add them back 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:29.040 to see if there's something behind whatever is bothering you, 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.480 whether it's irritable bowel syndrome, whether you get headaches, whether 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.000 you get tired at three pm, whatever it is, you 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:41.720 change your lifestyle temporarily, slowly add back all of the 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.320 components that made up your lifestyle and try to identify 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.480 the thing that was messing with you, and that's an 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.519 elimination diet. And it's all the rage right now. Yeah, 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:55.080 and this is uh, I mean, I don't know if 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.120 controversies starry word. Sure, let's say it. It can be 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.200 controversial in that. Uh. Sometimes someone goes through a doctor, 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:06.320 orange nutritionist or some kind of health professional too for 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.840 an assistance with something like this, But many times these 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:13.120 days people will just do it themselves. Yeah mostly I 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:17.240 would say, yeah, which isn't inherently bad. Um, if you 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:18.959 if you do it the right way, you can learn 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.040 a lot about your body and what foods work best 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.720 for you. But it can also go wrong in a 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.400 lot of ways. Uh, so let's let's get into it. 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.919 That's my little caveat. I guess well, we're gonna talk 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.480 more about that later, right, yeah for sure. Okay, alright, So, um, 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.200 you kind of hit upon how some people go to 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.880 see like a nutritionist or a doctor to do an 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.640 elimination diet, and that's originally where the whole thing started. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:51.600 This is an outgrowth of basically a medical procedure where 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.360 if you say, I don't really feel very good, I 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.640 my poops are all over the place. Um, I fall 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.240 as equhile I'm talking to people, I get headaches. I'm 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.880 feeling kind of anxious. There's a whole suite of of 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.880 things that I'm not sure what's wrong with me, but 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:11.560 there's a lot of stuff that I feel like is 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.360 wrong with me, and I'm starting to suspect that it 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.720 might have something to do with my diet. So I'm 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.599 here to see you doctor nutritionist m D. And the 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:27.560 nutritionists will say, what, chuck, I don't know what. What 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.159 will they say? Maybe they'll say elimination diet. Yeah, they'll say, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:35.479 I propose an elimination diet. And uh that is the 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:40.120 sort of middle of the road, legit way to do this. Again, 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.800 most people do this uh d I Y style, and 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.200 that's it's not necessarily a bad way to do it. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.120 But we're here to tell you how you should go 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:53.240 about that. We're not doctors or nutritionists. A good point, 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.080 but there are some pretty brainless steps that if you 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.400 don't follow, you could end up you could end up 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.320 making things work right, which is again why why this 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.800 is originally a medical procedure that was kind of hijacked 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.720 and done not that great all the time, But In 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.360 addition to UM this elimination diet, which we'll go through 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.680 in a second steps of it. UM, you you UM 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.240 are probably also going to get a skin prick test 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.000 where they will UM, well, they prick your skin to 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.920 see if they get an allergic reaction from you or 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.839 UM and or a blood test. But here's part of 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.200 the problem, and I suspect that this is why some 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:37.320 people do this on their own. The skin prick test 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:41.560 is not an infallible test, and even a blood test 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:46.080 for things like food sensitivities and food allergies are UM. 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.480 I saw it. They give false positives around like sevent 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.600 of the time, which that's not a test that's worse 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.160 than chance. It sounds like, I mean, that's terrible. It's 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.680 a terrible track record, if you'll remember back from our 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.640 extreme really confusing false positives episode. So I think that's 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.960 probably why some people do it on their own, is 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.680 there's like, I don't need the blood test or the 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.520 skiin prick tests. I can do this myself. That leads 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:15.440 me into this statu you know of Americans think they 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.880 have a food allergy when only three and four do. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.800 But just because you don't have a food allergy, and 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.920 we're going to talk about allergy, sensitivities and intolerances. Uh, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.600 it doesn't mean that like if you quit drinking and 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.120 eating sugar and loading down with carbs, you're you might 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.840 feel a lot better. Yes, And some people suspect that 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.240 this is what's really behind an elimination diet because just 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.880 just from the the attention that you pay to what 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.640 you're eating or not eating and to your health in general, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.760 that it forces you to to to adopt that's um. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.880 I mean, that's gonna have probably a positive beneficial effect 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.440 right that in and of itself, But that's not to 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:03.039 say that it doesn't actually do something more than that. Um, 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.200 And it has to do a lot with food allergies 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.760 and sensitivities and stuff. And let's take a break and 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.960 then we'll talk about all that. How about that great 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:36.280 h so before we get going with allergies. I wish 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.520 I could remember his name, But with that last story 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.880 about the diabetes, I did have one listener right in 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:46.160 after that episode and really kind of sent a very 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:52.000 sweet and loving email about me and my health. And 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.600 I'm gonna go back and find out who it was, 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.520 but uh, you know who you are. If you sent 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.239 that and that did this is before even this weird 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.120 false positive, But it meant a lot to me and 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.160 and kind of kick me into gear even before that test. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.800 Oh that's great man, Yeah, it was very nice. Um. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.640 So back to allergies. We did a pretty good episode 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.360 on allergies. Uh. We know that allergies are a defense 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:19.800 against what it thinks is a harmful invader, whether it's 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.840 a virus or some other kind of sickness. Um. But 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.160 with allergies and food allergies especially, a lot of times 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.040 it can get it wrong, and you can have your 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.320 body can think it's wording off an invader that's not 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.920 really an invader, right it it as far as you're concerned, 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.960 it's the exact same thing. You can have an allergic reaction. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:46.160 Your body sends either T cells or immunoglobulin cells um 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.040 that go to the site and say, oh, yeah, look 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.480 we've got a foreign invader. You in flame, you start 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:56.920 a fever, you make this stuff, make make everything itchy, 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.560 and you have an immune response amounted. Now that's really good. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.160 Like you said, if there's like an actual pathogen or whatever, 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.720 but an allergy is that mistaken identity. It's like strawberry 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.080 is like, I'm just a strawberry, and they're like, that's 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:13.840 what the last pathogen said exactly, I'm onto you, fraud. Uh, 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.120 and then they beat up the poor strawberry and it's 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.000 it's it's dead from that point on. But the UM, 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.200 But that's an allergy. It's it's just mistaken identity. That's 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.120 the same body processes. It's the thing that's kicking it 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.920 off shouldn't really be kicking it off. It's not a threat. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.480 But again, to you, it doesn't matter. You want to 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:35.199 stay away from, Yeah, stay away from strawberries or eggs 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.520 or soy or peanuts, um, because yeah, I can kill you. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.920 And one of the hallmarks of a food allergy in 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.880 particular is it doesn't matter if you have a peck 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:48.600 of strawberries or a bushel um, or if you just 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.160 have a little nibble of a strawberry, you're going to 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.839 have that allergic reaction. And you need to stay away 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:58.040 from from strawberries altogether, because, like you said, it can 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:02.440 be life threatening. Yeah, so that's an allergy. Uh. There's 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.360 also you can also be intolerant or sensitive UM. Like 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.560 when we did our gluten episode, a lot of people 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.920 do not have Celiac disease, but they may be intolerant 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:21.040 of gluten. Yeah, yeah, a non celiac gluten sensitivity, I 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:25.200 think is what it's called, which is also called gluten intolerance. Yeah, 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.839 so that's a little bit different because that is an 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:32.920 intolerance is triggered by your digestive system, not your immune system. 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.959 So what this usually means is, uh, you're you you're 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:41.280 lacking a certain enzyme maybe that is required to digest 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.720 whatever food that you're sensitive to or intolerant to. Rather yeah, 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.240 which doesn't sound like that would be really bad, Like 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.720 you're just like, Okay, I'll just poop it out. But 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:54.000 there's actually some compounds that are found in food that 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.199 if they enter your digestive tract because you can't break 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.319 it down, it can wreak havoc on you improve produce 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.960 all sorts of horrible symptoms in you from pooping everywhere 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:11.880 again um, from horrible cramps, bloating um, and then things 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.280 that have to do with your mood as well, which 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.760 sounds surprising at first and until you remember that there's 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:23.280 like a gut brain connection, like um of the serotonin 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.040 in your brain is actually produced in your gut. So 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.240 when your guts going haywire because you've eaten something that 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:33.440 you don't have an enzyme to metabolize, other things besides 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:38.400 the serotonin production are happening and you might have um 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.800 some sort of altered brain chemistry as a result. Yeah, 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.720 and Celiac disease is uh, it has it does have 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.880 a component of immune system response. So that is that 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.360 is not this. I mean that is a legit allergy. Right, 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.800 so the yeah, but gluten sensitivity is is or gluten 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:00.400 intolerance is is different. It doesn't have the immune system. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.840 But you're still hate in life because you just ate 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:08.000 a pizza crust that wasn't made from cauliflower. And again 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:13.320 now you're pooping everywhere. Right, then you have the third bucket, 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:17.319 which is a sensitivity. And this is not something they 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.600 have studied much. Um it says in our own article, 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.480 it's a bit of a mystery of medical science. But 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.440 we just know that, you know, some people are like 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.640 MSG makes me feel bad and I'm sensitive to it. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:34.360 That's everybody, right, Does that happen to you? I don't know, 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.760 because I don't know when I've had MSG. I used 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:42.199 to like put straight up MSG on my popcorn. Okay, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.560 it's really tasty stuff, but it's it can give you 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.760 headaches and make you feel like there's a like a 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.959 triveled claw grabbing the top of your stomach. Just all 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.360 sorts of weird stuff. Yeah. I just remember, like for 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:59.840 a while there, like Chinese food was the enemy of people. Yeah, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.559 and I was always like, man, I love Chinese food, 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:07.520 but that Chinese food syndrome basically blaming it on ms G. Yeah, 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:11.960 I saw that UM basically accused of being kind of racist. 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.560 Actually before that, like that Chinese food doesn't do that 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.959 to to anybody anymore than than other foods, especially other 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:23.720 foods with MSG. But you're not gonna attack a cheeseburgerburger exactly. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.560 It's not like you have freedom fries syndrome or something. 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:32.560 It's always Chinese Chinese food syndrome. Yeah, it's this eye 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.160 opening to see that from that other perspective. Chinese food 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.000 syndrome rolls off the tongue, you know. Yeah, I'm not 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.360 gonna give up my egg rol. So the other thing, 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.800 no way, the other thing about UM sensitivities is that, 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.200 like you said, it's it's understudied, not well understood, because 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.200 you might eat some ms G one day and get 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.080 terrible headaches and that that claw on the top of 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.000 your stomach, and the next day you might have some 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.400 ms G and be fine. And so they have no 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.760 idea what it counts for having the headache and the 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.320 claw um. And so it's it's something we'll probably know 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.520 more about in the future, but for now, because we 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.760 know so little about it. You'll often hear intolerance and 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.559 sensitivity interchangeable. And this article is one of the few 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:19.280 places where I saw them broken out a separate thing. Actually, yeah, 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.520 and I don't remember how what our attitude was like 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.920 when we did our gluten episode way back when. I'm 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.720 sure it was inclusive and welcoming. I hope so, because 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.440 since Emily has become a gluten intolerant, there have been 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.520 people that have like poop pooed that. And I'm like, man, 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:41.440 if somebody, if somebody's eating something that it even if 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.600 it's just their perception that it makes them feel bad 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.200 and they don't want to eat it, right, who cares? So? 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.000 So I saw this thing. I agree with you, no 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.520 skin off your back, right, I know what is it 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:57.800 that that bugs people like that? I really really wish 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.280 we could get to the bottom of because I think 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.800 it would clear up lot of stuff. If you if 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.040 when you saw that, and I think everybody does it, 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.840 you just get judgy and just irritated that that somebody's 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.320 bought into something that you don't believe in or whatever 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.840 whatever you want to say. Um, if you could step 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.880 back and be like, oh, I'm just being or you know, 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:21.680 well this is my going off. Um, I really think 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.600 that would clear that up a lot. But it's just 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.560 so easy to go with that, you know, I know, 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.920 And I mean maybe it's for some of these people. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.840 It's just like not eating heavy breads and enriched flour 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.920 and and the stuff that gluten is in. Maybe it 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.720 just makes you feel better to not eat that stuff. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.000 That's that's fine too. I saw that the guy who 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:45.840 basically proved that that non celiac gluten sensitivity was a 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.440 thing back in two thousand and eleven. It's an Australian 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.080 doctor named Peter Oh Doc, we'll just call him Doc 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:57.640 Dundee Peter Gibson, Dr Peter Crocodile on the barbie with 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:02.520 the Fosters slab as his full aim. But he um 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.360 he proved that there was a gluten intolerance that wasn't 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.120 immune based, right. He proved that this was around and 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.600 when he did follow ups he found that actually, that 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.600 doesn't seem to be the case, because in these placebo 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.840 groups they still had the same kind of symptoms. And 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.960 he now has taken it from gluten to something called 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:25.760 fod maps. Have you heard of them? Frementable oglio die 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:32.520 mono saccharides and Polly Yall's yeah, I don't remember ever 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.160 talking about it before in my life. I just came 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:39.760 across it in the last two days. I think, okay, well, 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.840 my brain's shot to hell. But this um, these fod maps. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.920 They are a component that's a type of carb and 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.640 it's found in gluten and some wheat products, but it's 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.040 also found another stuff too, And so this guy has said, 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.440 I think these are the actual culprit, not necessarily gluten. Now, 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.360 if you have sea LEAs, it's gluten, But if you 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.360 have gluten intolerance, he's saying, I think it's these fob maps. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.680 Which is that's great if you can narrow it down 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.280 even further, But from the looks of it, it sounds 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.080 like that means you've got a lot of other food 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.960 that you can eat either rather than just pizza crust, 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.959 you poor bastard. Yeah, and then the people in the 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.240 audience of the convention hall say, is he saying fog hat? 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.840 Free ride? Oh? Should we take a break and then 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:27.080 talk about how to do an elimination diet? Oh wait, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:31.520 it's slow ride, you say, free ride? Yeah? I did. 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.639 I confounded slow ride and free bird and just walked 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.800 right past the third use of elimination. So I'm a 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.520 little hippie. I'm going to sleep for the rest of this, okay, 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.560 all right, So we'll be back right after this to 0:17:43.560 --> 0:18:11.960 talk about how to do this, okay, man. So if 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.280 you want to do this yourself, I think you you 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.280 kind of see o aid right already. Yeah, well, let's 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.119 do it again. I recommend that you go see a 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.360 licensed nutritionist. Do some research first. Make sure you get 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.640 somebody who's really good, maybe an M. D um and 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.840 say I want to try this, help me out and 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.359 they'll help you out. Um. Or you can also go 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.840 on the internet and just find some smoke who's done 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.360 it before, published a book about it, and is now 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.480 a multi billionaire because they did their own elimination diet, 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.919 and now everybody's doing those two. Yeah, if you go 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.520 to do it on your own, though, it take your time. Uh, 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.680 this might take a month or two. Don't don't rush 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.400 in there and be like, all right, I'm gonna eat 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:59.119 chicken broth for the next month. Like there are safe 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.280 ways to do it, and they generally involved four steps, 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:06.520 which is planning, uh, the eliminating round, the reintroducing, and 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.960 then evaluating. Okay, so hold on, before we go any further, 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:15.080 just pinpointed how legally exposed we are right now. This 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.520 is what we're doing. We're saying you were talking to 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.080 somebody like we're encouraging it. So let's do this instead. 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:29.199 Let's say Sally and Tom. Now let's say forget it. 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.080 We'll say Sally and Tom, Brenda and Eddie. Brenda and 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:37.080 Eddie are, um, they're going to do an elimination diet, 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:38.679 and this is how they're going to do it. How 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.800 about that? Great? That's genius, isn't it. So Brenda and 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.280 Eddie are going to sit down. I thought it was 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.159 salient Tom, and they say, well, they live next door 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.920 each other there and they they partner swap, so they're 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:54.960 into it. Uh. They said, we gotta plan this out first, honey, 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.720 and she says, sure, dear, let's do this. Let's sit 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.720 down and let's us write down a big list of 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:06.480 our symptoms when we feel poopy butt, or when we 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:11.760 feel super tired or whatever, when our uh, when we 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.040 feel constipated, maybe, and then let's list out what we 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:18.560 think might be some of these problem foods. And what 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.960 we're really gonna do is start a journal before we 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:26.000 do anything, and start writing down what we're eating, maybe 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.040 for a couple of weeks even, and how we feel 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:30.639 after we eat stuff, and maybe we can sort of 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.480 see a pattern start to emerge. Yeah, and you also 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:37.040 want to write down the foods you're craving, foods you 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.080 would feel like you would have the hardest time giving up. 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.639 Apparently those are frequently the culprits. Yeah, I've heard of that. 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:47.240 I even kids. I didn't know that actually, Yeah, like 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.439 a kid who's always wants to drink milk may end 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:53.440 up having a dairy allergy. So it's basically just our 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:58.000 our tendency to punish ourselves is what's behind this stuff. 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:04.719 There's probably some evolutionary reason. It makes zero sense, but okay, 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:06.760 I don't know. Well, maybe maybe it does make sense, 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.520 because maybe that could potentially be a dangerous thing, and 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.000 your body craves it, so it will then know that 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:17.760 it's an allergen. I don't know, could be population control, 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:21.200 maybe thinning the herd. That's all right. So if you 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.119 made your list, you're keeping your journal, and you're like, 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:24.919 all right, here's what I think the deal is. I 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:29.600 think for me, it's sugar and dairy. So I'm gonna 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:34.280 eliminate for two to three weeks all dairy and all 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:38.400 sugar from my diet. I'm gonna keep up with this journal. Um, 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.959 I might have some sugar withdrawal. That'll be all right 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:43.960 after a few days. And I'm gonna look at my 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:47.639 my food diary at the end of this and I 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:50.800 might have I might have to start over from scratch, 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.800 or might say, you know what, I eliminated dairy and 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:58.439 I feel great. Right, But since you eliminated, say, dairy 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:02.040 and sugar, and actually it's with a lot of elimination diets, 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.600 you do a bunch of them at once, right, Yeah, 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:06.320 but you don't want to do too many at once, 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.600 So that's true. That's true. You're right, but um, so 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.040 let's just keep it simple than sugar and dairy. With 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.800 the caveat that you frequently will need to do more 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.760 than that. But as you as you cut them out 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:20.960 for like two weeks, you've given your body enough time 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.040 to basically clear up any symptoms that you may have 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:28.000 generated by eating this stuff. This is phase two because 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:31.080 you've journaled, maybe done a little scrap booking, but that's 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:33.399 still part of the same phase, maybe a pinterest board. 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:37.199 Phase two is the actual elimination diet. Part of the 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:42.160 elimination diet. Yeah, and if you're cutting out something like dairy, 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:45.479 like all dairy, then you may need to uh and 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:47.639 this is where it really helps if you're working with 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.879 a health professional. You might need to supplement what you 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:53.840 got from that dairy, whether it's calcium or vitamin D 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:57.040 or whatever. This is one reason why we switched over 0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:01.560 to the Sally Tom Brenda Eddie an area because there's 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:03.439 a lot there's a lot of things that can go 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.880 wrong that you can accidentally do to yourself with an 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.159 elimination diet, which again is why you should go to 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:13.080 a professional for it. But Sally and Tom are doing 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.240 their elimination diet right now. They've cut out sugar and 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.240 dairy and they've made it to the two week line, 0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.560 and like you said, they feel great, right, And now 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.920 you get to phase three, which is what's called challenge. 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.120 It's the challenge phase. And what you're doing is you're 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:32.960 challenging your body with these foods that you've cut out 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:36.720 to see if the symptoms will produce reproduce, right. And 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:40.399 the way that you do that, I'm sorry, this is 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.760 really tough to remember. The way that Sally and Tom 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:46.280 do this is they wake up on the first day 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:49.560 of phase three and they have a little bit of 0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:54.080 um milk cream in their coffee and they have um. 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.440 They drink it and they sit around and they stare 0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.439 at each other. Maybe take the day off of work um, 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.560 and then nothing happens, so they have a little more. 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.000 They have maybe like a glass of milk with lunch, 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:10.080 and then maybe they they just drink straight from the 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:14.240 cow for dinner and they reintroduce dairy for that one 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:17.480 day and then they stop again and then they spend 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.280 two days back on the elimination diet like it was 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:24.399