1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: There's Charles w Huggy Bear Bryant, and Jerry's over there. 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: So this is the mod squad. What I'm just mixing metaphors. 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember who said it this way, but ever 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: since I was researching this, I've been saying in my head, elimination. 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: What is that? From? Oh me? And uh? It sounds 8 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: like a mad doctor. Maybe a little bit of German 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: and latka from taxi. I have no idea. Well, when 10 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: I think elimination, I think that, you know, the term 11 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: for pooping something out. So it makes me think that 12 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: it's like the diet where you just poop everything out 13 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: and you get skinny that way. Oh yeah, I know 14 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: that's not what it is, but that's what I think about. Man. 15 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: I feel bad for people with poop problems too. It's 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: a tough thing me too, whether you can't or you 17 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: do too much, or it's just unpleasant one way or another. Yeah, 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: for sure, it's bad stuff. Yeah, and that has to 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: do with this, because IBS is certainly one condition where 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: one might want and we should do a show on that. 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: But where one might want to propose an elimination diet, 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: you can say it like that whole time. No that 23 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: I was hoping you were. I'll do one more rule 24 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: of threes. I'll do one more at some point, but 25 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: just out of out of nowhere. Huh, you're not gonna 26 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: know what's coming. You know, there's a chance that you'll 27 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: forget to do it again. Probably. Okay, that's the stuff 28 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: you should know. Why under deliver, So, Chuck, we're talking 29 00:01:53,200 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: about elimination diets, Yes we are. And um, that doesn't 30 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: really mean that you poop your your pounds away. It 31 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: doesn't really have anything to do with losing weight, actually, 32 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: to tell you the truth. And yet it is one 33 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: of the hottest trends right now in America at least, 34 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: if not the Western general. Where you you cut out 35 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of foods and then you add them back 36 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: to see if there's something behind whatever is bothering you, 37 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: whether it's irritable bowel syndrome, whether you get headaches, whether 38 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: you get tired at three pm, whatever it is, you 39 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: change your lifestyle temporarily, slowly add back all of the 40 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: components that made up your lifestyle and try to identify 41 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: the thing that was messing with you, and that's an 42 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: elimination diet. And it's all the rage right now. Yeah, 43 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: and this is uh, I mean, I don't know if 44 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: controversies starry word. Sure, let's say it. It can be 45 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: controversial in that. Uh. Sometimes someone goes through a doctor, 46 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: orange nutritionist or some kind of health professional too for 47 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: an assistance with something like this, But many times these 48 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: days people will just do it themselves. Yeah mostly I 49 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: would say, yeah, which isn't inherently bad. Um, if you 50 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: if you do it the right way, you can learn 51 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot about your body and what foods work best 52 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: for you. But it can also go wrong in a 53 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: lot of ways. Uh, so let's let's get into it. 54 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: That's my little caveat. I guess well, we're gonna talk 55 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: more about that later, right, yeah for sure. Okay, alright, So, um, 56 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: you kind of hit upon how some people go to 57 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: see like a nutritionist or a doctor to do an 58 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: elimination diet, and that's originally where the whole thing started. 59 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: This is an outgrowth of basically a medical procedure where 60 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: if you say, I don't really feel very good, I 61 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: my poops are all over the place. Um, I fall 62 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: as equhile I'm talking to people, I get headaches. I'm 63 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: feeling kind of anxious. There's a whole suite of of 64 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: things that I'm not sure what's wrong with me, but 65 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that I feel like is 66 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: wrong with me, and I'm starting to suspect that it 67 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: might have something to do with my diet. So I'm 68 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: here to see you doctor nutritionist m D. And the 69 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: nutritionists will say, what, chuck, I don't know what. What 70 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: will they say? Maybe they'll say elimination diet. Yeah, they'll say, 71 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: I propose an elimination diet. And uh that is the 72 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: sort of middle of the road, legit way to do this. Again, 73 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: most people do this uh d I Y style, and 74 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: that's it's not necessarily a bad way to do it. 75 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: But we're here to tell you how you should go 76 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: about that. We're not doctors or nutritionists. A good point, 77 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: but there are some pretty brainless steps that if you 78 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: don't follow, you could end up you could end up 79 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: making things work right, which is again why why this 80 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: is originally a medical procedure that was kind of hijacked 81 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: and done not that great all the time, But In 82 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: addition to UM this elimination diet, which we'll go through 83 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: in a second steps of it. UM, you you UM 84 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: are probably also going to get a skin prick test 85 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: where they will UM, well, they prick your skin to 86 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: see if they get an allergic reaction from you or 87 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: UM and or a blood test. But here's part of 88 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: the problem, and I suspect that this is why some 89 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: people do this on their own. The skin prick test 90 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: is not an infallible test, and even a blood test 91 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: for things like food sensitivities and food allergies are UM. 92 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: I saw it. They give false positives around like sevent 93 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: of the time, which that's not a test that's worse 94 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: than chance. It sounds like, I mean, that's terrible. It's 95 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: a terrible track record, if you'll remember back from our 96 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: extreme really confusing false positives episode. So I think that's 97 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: probably why some people do it on their own, is 98 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: there's like, I don't need the blood test or the 99 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: skiin prick tests. I can do this myself. That leads 100 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: me into this statu you know of Americans think they 101 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: have a food allergy when only three and four do. 102 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: But just because you don't have a food allergy, and 103 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about allergy, sensitivities and intolerances. Uh, 104 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that like if you quit drinking and 105 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: eating sugar and loading down with carbs, you're you might 106 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: feel a lot better. Yes, And some people suspect that 107 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: this is what's really behind an elimination diet because just 108 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: just from the the attention that you pay to what 109 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: you're eating or not eating and to your health in general, 110 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: that it forces you to to to adopt that's um. 111 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna have probably a positive beneficial effect 112 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: right that in and of itself, But that's not to 113 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: say that it doesn't actually do something more than that. Um, 114 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: And it has to do a lot with food allergies 115 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: and sensitivities and stuff. And let's take a break and 116 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: then we'll talk about all that. How about that great 117 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: h so before we get going with allergies. I wish 118 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: I could remember his name, But with that last story 119 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: about the diabetes, I did have one listener right in 120 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: after that episode and really kind of sent a very 121 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: sweet and loving email about me and my health. And 122 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and find out who it was, 123 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: but uh, you know who you are. If you sent 124 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: that and that did this is before even this weird 125 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: false positive, But it meant a lot to me and 126 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: and kind of kick me into gear even before that test. 127 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: Oh that's great man, Yeah, it was very nice. Um. 128 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: So back to allergies. We did a pretty good episode 129 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: on allergies. Uh. We know that allergies are a defense 130 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: against what it thinks is a harmful invader, whether it's 131 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: a virus or some other kind of sickness. Um. But 132 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: with allergies and food allergies especially, a lot of times 133 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: it can get it wrong, and you can have your 134 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: body can think it's wording off an invader that's not 135 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: really an invader, right it it as far as you're concerned, 136 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: it's the exact same thing. You can have an allergic reaction. 137 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: Your body sends either T cells or immunoglobulin cells um 138 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: that go to the site and say, oh, yeah, look 139 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: we've got a foreign invader. You in flame, you start 140 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: a fever, you make this stuff, make make everything itchy, 141 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: and you have an immune response amounted. Now that's really good. 142 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: Like you said, if there's like an actual pathogen or whatever, 143 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: but an allergy is that mistaken identity. It's like strawberry 144 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: is like, I'm just a strawberry, and they're like, that's 145 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: what the last pathogen said exactly, I'm onto you, fraud. Uh, 146 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: and then they beat up the poor strawberry and it's 147 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: it's it's dead from that point on. But the UM, 148 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: But that's an allergy. It's it's just mistaken identity. That's 149 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: the same body processes. It's the thing that's kicking it 150 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: off shouldn't really be kicking it off. It's not a threat. 151 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: But again, to you, it doesn't matter. You want to 152 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: stay away from, Yeah, stay away from strawberries or eggs 153 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: or soy or peanuts, um, because yeah, I can kill you. 154 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: And one of the hallmarks of a food allergy in 155 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: particular is it doesn't matter if you have a peck 156 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: of strawberries or a bushel um, or if you just 157 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: have a little nibble of a strawberry, you're going to 158 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: have that allergic reaction. And you need to stay away 159 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: from from strawberries altogether, because, like you said, it can 160 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: be life threatening. Yeah, so that's an allergy. Uh. There's 161 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: also you can also be intolerant or sensitive UM. Like 162 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: when we did our gluten episode, a lot of people 163 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: do not have Celiac disease, but they may be intolerant 164 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: of gluten. Yeah, yeah, a non celiac gluten sensitivity, I 165 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: think is what it's called, which is also called gluten intolerance. Yeah, 166 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: so that's a little bit different because that is an 167 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: intolerance is triggered by your digestive system, not your immune system. 168 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: So what this usually means is, uh, you're you you're 169 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: lacking a certain enzyme maybe that is required to digest 170 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: whatever food that you're sensitive to or intolerant to. Rather yeah, 171 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: which doesn't sound like that would be really bad, Like 172 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: you're just like, Okay, I'll just poop it out. But 173 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: there's actually some compounds that are found in food that 174 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: if they enter your digestive tract because you can't break 175 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: it down, it can wreak havoc on you improve produce 176 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: all sorts of horrible symptoms in you from pooping everywhere 177 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: again um, from horrible cramps, bloating um, and then things 178 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: that have to do with your mood as well, which 179 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: sounds surprising at first and until you remember that there's 180 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: like a gut brain connection, like um of the serotonin 181 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: in your brain is actually produced in your gut. So 182 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: when your guts going haywire because you've eaten something that 183 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: you don't have an enzyme to metabolize, other things besides 184 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: the serotonin production are happening and you might have um 185 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: some sort of altered brain chemistry as a result. Yeah, 186 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: and Celiac disease is uh, it has it does have 187 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: a component of immune system response. So that is that 188 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: is not this. I mean that is a legit allergy. Right, 189 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: so the yeah, but gluten sensitivity is is or gluten 190 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: intolerance is is different. It doesn't have the immune system. 191 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: But you're still hate in life because you just ate 192 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: a pizza crust that wasn't made from cauliflower. And again 193 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: now you're pooping everywhere. Right, then you have the third bucket, 194 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: which is a sensitivity. And this is not something they 195 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: have studied much. Um it says in our own article, 196 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: it's a bit of a mystery of medical science. But 197 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: we just know that, you know, some people are like 198 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: MSG makes me feel bad and I'm sensitive to it. 199 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: That's everybody, right, Does that happen to you? I don't know, 200 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: because I don't know when I've had MSG. I used 201 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: to like put straight up MSG on my popcorn. Okay, 202 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: it's really tasty stuff, but it's it can give you 203 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: headaches and make you feel like there's a like a 204 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: triveled claw grabbing the top of your stomach. Just all 205 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: sorts of weird stuff. Yeah. I just remember, like for 206 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: a while there, like Chinese food was the enemy of people. Yeah, 207 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: and I was always like, man, I love Chinese food, 208 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: but that Chinese food syndrome basically blaming it on ms G. Yeah, 209 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: I saw that UM basically accused of being kind of racist. 210 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: Actually before that, like that Chinese food doesn't do that 211 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: to to anybody anymore than than other foods, especially other 212 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: foods with MSG. But you're not gonna attack a cheeseburgerburger exactly. 213 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: It's not like you have freedom fries syndrome or something. 214 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: It's always Chinese Chinese food syndrome. Yeah, it's this eye 215 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: opening to see that from that other perspective. Chinese food 216 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: syndrome rolls off the tongue, you know. Yeah, I'm not 217 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: gonna give up my egg rol. So the other thing, 218 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: no way, the other thing about UM sensitivities is that, 219 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: like you said, it's it's understudied, not well understood, because 220 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: you might eat some ms G one day and get 221 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: terrible headaches and that that claw on the top of 222 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: your stomach, and the next day you might have some 223 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: ms G and be fine. And so they have no 224 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: idea what it counts for having the headache and the 225 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: claw um. And so it's it's something we'll probably know 226 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: more about in the future, but for now, because we 227 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: know so little about it. You'll often hear intolerance and 228 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: sensitivity interchangeable. And this article is one of the few 229 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: places where I saw them broken out a separate thing. Actually, yeah, 230 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: and I don't remember how what our attitude was like 231 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: when we did our gluten episode way back when. I'm 232 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: sure it was inclusive and welcoming. I hope so, because 233 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: since Emily has become a gluten intolerant, there have been 234 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: people that have like poop pooed that. And I'm like, man, 235 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: if somebody, if somebody's eating something that it even if 236 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: it's just their perception that it makes them feel bad 237 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: and they don't want to eat it, right, who cares? So? 238 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: So I saw this thing. I agree with you, no 239 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: skin off your back, right, I know what is it 240 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: that that bugs people like that? I really really wish 241 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: we could get to the bottom of because I think 242 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: it would clear up lot of stuff. If you if 243 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: when you saw that, and I think everybody does it, 244 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: you just get judgy and just irritated that that somebody's 245 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: bought into something that you don't believe in or whatever 246 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. Um, if you could step 247 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: back and be like, oh, I'm just being or you know, 248 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: well this is my going off. Um, I really think 249 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: that would clear that up a lot. But it's just 250 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: so easy to go with that, you know, I know, 251 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: And I mean maybe it's for some of these people. 252 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: It's just like not eating heavy breads and enriched flour 253 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: and and the stuff that gluten is in. Maybe it 254 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: just makes you feel better to not eat that stuff. 255 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: That's that's fine too. I saw that the guy who 256 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: basically proved that that non celiac gluten sensitivity was a 257 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: thing back in two thousand and eleven. It's an Australian 258 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: doctor named Peter Oh Doc, we'll just call him Doc 259 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: Dundee Peter Gibson, Dr Peter Crocodile on the barbie with 260 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: the Fosters slab as his full aim. But he um 261 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: he proved that there was a gluten intolerance that wasn't 262 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: immune based, right. He proved that this was around and 263 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: when he did follow ups he found that actually, that 264 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be the case, because in these placebo 265 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: groups they still had the same kind of symptoms. And 266 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: he now has taken it from gluten to something called 267 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: fod maps. Have you heard of them? Frementable oglio die 268 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: mono saccharides and Polly Yall's yeah, I don't remember ever 269 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: talking about it before in my life. I just came 270 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: across it in the last two days. I think, okay, well, 271 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: my brain's shot to hell. But this um, these fod maps. 272 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: They are a component that's a type of carb and 273 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: it's found in gluten and some wheat products, but it's 274 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: also found another stuff too, And so this guy has said, 275 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: I think these are the actual culprit, not necessarily gluten. Now, 276 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: if you have sea LEAs, it's gluten, But if you 277 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: have gluten intolerance, he's saying, I think it's these fob maps. 278 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: Which is that's great if you can narrow it down 279 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: even further, But from the looks of it, it sounds 280 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: like that means you've got a lot of other food 281 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: that you can eat either rather than just pizza crust, 282 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: you poor bastard. Yeah, and then the people in the 283 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: audience of the convention hall say, is he saying fog hat? 284 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: Free ride? Oh? Should we take a break and then 285 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: talk about how to do an elimination diet? Oh wait, 286 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: it's slow ride, you say, free ride? Yeah? I did. 287 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: I confounded slow ride and free bird and just walked 288 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: right past the third use of elimination. So I'm a 289 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: little hippie. I'm going to sleep for the rest of this, okay, 290 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: all right, So we'll be back right after this to 291 00:17:43,560 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: talk about how to do this, okay, man. So if 292 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: you want to do this yourself, I think you you 293 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: kind of see o aid right already. Yeah, well, let's 294 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: do it again. I recommend that you go see a 295 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: licensed nutritionist. Do some research first. Make sure you get 296 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: somebody who's really good, maybe an M. D um and 297 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: say I want to try this, help me out and 298 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: they'll help you out. Um. Or you can also go 299 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: on the internet and just find some smoke who's done 300 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: it before, published a book about it, and is now 301 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: a multi billionaire because they did their own elimination diet, 302 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: and now everybody's doing those two. Yeah, if you go 303 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: to do it on your own, though, it take your time. Uh, 304 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: this might take a month or two. Don't don't rush 305 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: in there and be like, all right, I'm gonna eat 306 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: chicken broth for the next month. Like there are safe 307 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: ways to do it, and they generally involved four steps, 308 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: which is planning, uh, the eliminating round, the reintroducing, and 309 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: then evaluating. Okay, so hold on, before we go any further, 310 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: just pinpointed how legally exposed we are right now. This 311 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: is what we're doing. We're saying you were talking to 312 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: somebody like we're encouraging it. So let's do this instead. 313 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: Let's say Sally and Tom. Now let's say forget it. 314 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: We'll say Sally and Tom, Brenda and Eddie. Brenda and 315 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: Eddie are, um, they're going to do an elimination diet, 316 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: and this is how they're going to do it. How 317 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: about that? Great? That's genius, isn't it. So Brenda and 318 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: Eddie are going to sit down. I thought it was 319 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: salient Tom, and they say, well, they live next door 320 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: each other there and they they partner swap, so they're 321 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: into it. Uh. They said, we gotta plan this out first, honey, 322 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: and she says, sure, dear, let's do this. Let's sit 323 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: down and let's us write down a big list of 324 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: our symptoms when we feel poopy butt, or when we 325 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: feel super tired or whatever, when our uh, when we 326 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: feel constipated, maybe, and then let's list out what we 327 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: think might be some of these problem foods. And what 328 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: we're really gonna do is start a journal before we 329 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: do anything, and start writing down what we're eating, maybe 330 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks even, and how we feel 331 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: after we eat stuff, and maybe we can sort of 332 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: see a pattern start to emerge. Yeah, and you also 333 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: want to write down the foods you're craving, foods you 334 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: would feel like you would have the hardest time giving up. 335 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: Apparently those are frequently the culprits. Yeah, I've heard of that. 336 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: I even kids. I didn't know that actually, Yeah, like 337 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: a kid who's always wants to drink milk may end 338 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: up having a dairy allergy. So it's basically just our 339 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: our tendency to punish ourselves is what's behind this stuff. 340 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 1: There's probably some evolutionary reason. It makes zero sense, but okay, 341 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, maybe maybe it does make sense, 342 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: because maybe that could potentially be a dangerous thing, and 343 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: your body craves it, so it will then know that 344 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: it's an allergen. I don't know, could be population control, 345 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: maybe thinning the herd. That's all right. So if you 346 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: made your list, you're keeping your journal, and you're like, 347 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: all right, here's what I think the deal is. I 348 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: think for me, it's sugar and dairy. So I'm gonna 349 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: eliminate for two to three weeks all dairy and all 350 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: sugar from my diet. I'm gonna keep up with this journal. Um, 351 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 1: I might have some sugar withdrawal. That'll be all right 352 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: after a few days. And I'm gonna look at my 353 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: my food diary at the end of this and I 354 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: might have I might have to start over from scratch, 355 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: or might say, you know what, I eliminated dairy and 356 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: I feel great. Right, But since you eliminated, say, dairy 357 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: and sugar, and actually it's with a lot of elimination diets, 358 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: you do a bunch of them at once, right, Yeah, 359 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: but you don't want to do too many at once, 360 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: So that's true. That's true. You're right, but um, so 361 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: let's just keep it simple than sugar and dairy. With 362 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: the caveat that you frequently will need to do more 363 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: than that. But as you as you cut them out 364 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: for like two weeks, you've given your body enough time 365 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: to basically clear up any symptoms that you may have 366 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: generated by eating this stuff. This is phase two because 367 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: you've journaled, maybe done a little scrap booking, but that's 368 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: still part of the same phase, maybe a pinterest board. 369 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: Phase two is the actual elimination diet. Part of the 370 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: elimination diet. Yeah, and if you're cutting out something like dairy, 371 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 1: like all dairy, then you may need to uh and 372 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: this is where it really helps if you're working with 373 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: a health professional. You might need to supplement what you 374 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: got from that dairy, whether it's calcium or vitamin D 375 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: or whatever. This is one reason why we switched over 376 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: to the Sally Tom Brenda Eddie an area because there's 377 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: a lot there's a lot of things that can go 378 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: wrong that you can accidentally do to yourself with an 379 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: elimination diet, which again is why you should go to 380 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: a professional for it. But Sally and Tom are doing 381 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: their elimination diet right now. They've cut out sugar and 382 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: dairy and they've made it to the two week line, 383 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: and like you said, they feel great, right, And now 384 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: you get to phase three, which is what's called challenge. 385 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: It's the challenge phase. And what you're doing is you're 386 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: challenging your body with these foods that you've cut out 387 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: to see if the symptoms will produce reproduce, right. And 388 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: the way that you do that, I'm sorry, this is 389 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: really tough to remember. The way that Sally and Tom 390 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: do this is they wake up on the first day 391 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: of phase three and they have a little bit of 392 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: um milk cream in their coffee and they have um. 393 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: They drink it and they sit around and they stare 394 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: at each other. Maybe take the day off of work um, 395 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: and then nothing happens, so they have a little more. 396 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: They have maybe like a glass of milk with lunch, 397 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: and then maybe they they just drink straight from the 398 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: cow for dinner and they reintroduce dairy for that one 399 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: day and then they stop again and then they spend 400 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: two days back on the elimination diet like it was 401 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: before and see what happens. And they say, over two days, 402 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: that's enough time for these symptoms to reappear. And then 403 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: you do the second step of this phase, which is 404 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: you go to the sugar. Now you do the same thing. 405 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: And this is a big key that I hadn't thought about. 406 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: If you don't produce those symptoms from the first part 407 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: where you do the dairy and everything's all good and 408 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: then you move on to the sugar, that doesn't mean 409 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: you add dairy back in. You stay off of dairy 410 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: for the rest of the diet. Everything that you quit 411 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: as you challenge yourself, you still go back to staying 412 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: off of it as you're doing new challenges, and you 413 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: keep doing that until you've you've gone through all the 414 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: food that you cut out, and then you've entered the 415 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: final phase, which is the done with the elimination diet 416 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: part of the diet. Yeah, and boy, it can get 417 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: really confusing because like you've got to be really organized 418 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: Brenda and Eddie do, because it could like it might 419 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: be the coffee or the caffeine, you know, and you 420 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: put the cream in it and you think it's the cream, 421 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 1: but it was really the coffee to begin with, So 422 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: maybe you should have eliminated coffee as well at the beginning. Uh. 423 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: But it's also it's also can be very broad, like 424 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: it's not like well, this one vegetable is the cause 425 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: of all my troubles or milk is really what kills me. 426 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: But I'm fine with cheese and every other form of dairy. 427 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: Like it's probably a broader category like dairy in general. Yeah, 428 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: a food group is what they still call them, just 429 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: like when we were kids. Yeah, like, so, yeah, you're 430 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: gonna cut out dairy, you're gonna cut out carbs, or 431 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna cut out so kinds of vegetables or like 432 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: gooms or something like that, or maybe meat um or 433 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: wheat whatever, But these are all considered food groups. So yeah, 434 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: you might have like a little creamer in your coffee 435 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: and then like cheese at dinner or something like that. 436 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: And as when you're reintroducing the dairy food group, but 437 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: because it could be as specific as a type of cheese, 438 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of difference between fresh cheese 439 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: and you know cheese it's been cave aged for five years. 440 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: That could actually make a difference in your sensitivity to it. Yeah, 441 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: Or is is chuck uh lactose intolerant or does he 442 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: get poopy butt when he eats a pint of sugary 443 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: ice cream? All in one sitting you know, right, which 444 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: again is another reason why you want to UM why 445 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people will cut out more than just 446 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: a couple of food groups. And then when they when 447 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 1: they challenge, you've gotta you gotta keep it pure like that. 448 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: I think that's what you're saying, right, You don't want 449 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: to mix sugar and dairy together when you challenge your 450 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: body again in during the elimination diet. Correct. Yeah, And 451 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: and I think maybe I was just trying to speak 452 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: to to like, you know, if I half a pizza 453 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: and a pint of ice cream, that doesn't necessarily mean 454 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: I am dairy intolerant. That maybe means that you shouldn't 455 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: eat four pieces of pizza. I need a big thing 456 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: on ice cream. I got you, you know what I mean? Like, 457 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: that's that's an overdose of dairy, which is not the 458 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: same thing as like, m dairy really messes me up. 459 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm really glad you brought that up because that's actually 460 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: again that's a distinction between UM uh an intolerance or 461 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: a sensitivity and UH an allergy. You remember, with an allergy, 462 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how much of the food you eat, 463 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna have reaction. With a sensitivity, UM and an 464 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: intolerance too little amounts. Can you can slide by with them? 465 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: And that's actually one of the things that people find 466 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: out with elimination diets is Okay, I'm sensitive to to dairy, 467 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: but I've found that I could I can actually have 468 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: one slice pizzas. When I have that second or third 469 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: one that I begin to poop everywhere. Yeah, Or like alcohol, 470 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: I can have a glass of wine and I'm fine. 471 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: What I'm allergic to is nine gin and tonics, Like 472 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: that's why, that's why I have poopy butt. Right, That's 473 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: not why I have poopy But I'm just saying in 474 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: general everywhere that that was Eddie and Tom talking. Oh 475 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: right right. Yeah. Here's another cool thing though, if you 476 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: already have other allergies have nothing to do with food, 477 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: you kind of have a head start because a lot 478 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: of times they're I don't know code morbid as a word, 479 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: but uh, like if you have a latex allergy, it's 480 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: you could also be allergic to like certain vegetables or fruits, 481 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 1: and they have you know, there are lists where people know, 482 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: like doctors know, hey, latex is also sort of co 483 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: morbid with apples. Let's say, so, do you eat apples. 484 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: Are you allergic to latex? That might be a problem. 485 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: Isn't that fascinating? I looked up I was like, well, 486 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: why why do they you know, I think it's called 487 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: um co. It's not more abid what cross reactive? Yeah, 488 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: it's called the cross reactive food. And they they don't know. 489 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: They just know that if you have a latex um 490 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: if you have a latex allergy, you're probably very allergic 491 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: to say bananas or something too. So that's that's wonderful. 492 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 1: It's nice that there's still new mysteries out there that 493 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: people are looking into. When you have a latex allergy 494 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: and they ask you that at the dentist in doctor 495 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: and you do have one, does that mean they dig 496 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: into your mouth with their bare hands? Uh? I know. 497 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: I think there's non latex gloves. I think nitrial gloves 498 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: is non latex. Why don't they just use those all 499 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: the time? Then they probably do just out of you know, 500 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: keeping it cheaper and just everyone always asked though, still, 501 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: do you have a latex allergy? Yeah? Because I don't 502 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: think it's just the gloves. It can be like an 503 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 1: intubation tube or there's a lot of latex going on 504 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: and it has a do with an enzyme that's in 505 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: natural rubber which makes its way into latex, which so 506 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: you're really allergic to. If you go to the proctologist 507 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: and ask if you have a latex allergy and you 508 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: say yes, then your doctor has another alternative. Yeah. Yeah, 509 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, No, Actually I don't 510 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: you know what a proctologist does. Oh did you say proctologists? Yes? 511 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: I do. Okay, shall we move on? That was that 512 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: was rough? All right, Let's talk about the how this 513 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: can go bad. Um. It can go back in a 514 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 1: lot of ways. Like we said, if you eliminate something 515 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: that your body needs, a certain vitamin or something, and 516 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: you eliminate all that, then your body might become deficient 517 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: if you don't add something back in that will help 518 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: make up for that. Or you sent a very interesting article, 519 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: uh about something that I never heard of called orthor 520 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: rexia or the thing that everybody we know has right now, 521 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: do you think yeah, to some degree, yes, I totally 522 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: do so orthorexia this um uh, this very brave woman 523 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: wrote this article orthorexia colon how my clean eating turned 524 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: into anorexia and orthorexia Even though it's not recognized by 525 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: the d s m IS basically, but is recognized by 526 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: the National Eating Disorders Association. Is kind of UH is 527 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: kind of taking UM label reading and nutritional label reading 528 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: and and thinking about what you're eating to the most 529 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: obsessive level possible. It's a it's it's it's an eating disorder, 530 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: but rather than being UM zoned in on calorie restriction 531 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: like traditional anorexia UM and weight loss, it's an obsession 532 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: with healthy or clean eating. And if you look around, 533 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: if you realize this, you're like, there is this is all. 534 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: This is all over the place. Like look around on 535 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: the internet and see how many foods are labeled like toxic, 536 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: Like this is a toxic food. Strawberries are toxic and 537 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: you smack your hand as you try to take a 538 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: bite of it or something like that. Or there's something 539 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: called the plant paradox diet, which is like tomatoes are 540 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: toxic like gooms or toxic like the just the way 541 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: that people look at food now it's either good or bad. 542 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: It's pure or it's toxic. It's healthy or it can 543 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: kill you. This is very much where um orthorexia is rooted. Yeah, 544 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: and with this woman in particular, Um. She wrote about 545 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: her her journey through this and how it was getting 546 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: worse and worse and how her friends started to notice 547 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: like she would go and she said she spiraled into 548 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: a total panic if she happened to eat something that 549 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: was quote unquote bad. Uh, And it was just completely compulsive, 550 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: like reading and rereading uh these nutritional lay bowls. Um 551 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: feeling really anxious if you're if you're not reading these things, 552 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: and it actually led to anorexi at her friend UM 553 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: stepped in and said, hey, listen, I think you need 554 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: to like get some help here. Things are getting a 555 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: little out of hand. And luckily, uh, this woman in 556 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: this case at least was listened, went to a health 557 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: professional and they confirmed that she had had uh had 558 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: morphed into anorexia. Right the way that it had morphed 559 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: inn anorex is because she had whittled down her list 560 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: of acceptable foods to such a small degree that she 561 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: was becoming malnourished because there was so few types of 562 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: foods that she would allow herself to eat. And I 563 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: guess a byproduct of that was just inadvertent calorie restriction 564 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: and like major weight loss too. But again she wasn't couldn't. 565 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: She wasn't obsessed with um, her weight. It was good 566 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: food or bad food, pure food or toxic food that 567 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: and that distinction, and then becoming like obsessed with that, 568 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: like thinking about that kind of food and foods you 569 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: should avoid and and um, she points out, apparently one 570 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: of the kind of accepted criterias that like you obsessively follow, 571 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: like like fitness or nutrition experts or self proclaimed experts 572 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: on like social media or something like that. And I 573 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: think just in addition to obsessing about good food versus bad, 574 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: it's just obsessing about food in general, and it begins 575 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: to take over your life and you change your life. 576 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: Like she was saying, she just stopped going to parties 577 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: because she knew that it would be weird if she 578 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: didn't drink or she didn't eat a slice of birthday cake. Um, 579 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: So she just stopped going to those kind of social 580 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: functions and eventually after a while, stopped getting invited to 581 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: him too. So it had like a major effect on 582 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: her life as well. It is extremely sad, and you're right, 583 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: she was brave for writing this. Her name is Hannah 584 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: Matthews and the article was orthor xia, How am I 585 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: clean eating? Turned into anorexia in self. I think it 586 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: was right, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. One of the 587 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: other good things though about an elimination diet um in 588 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: our own article that they point out is is one 589 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: good side effect is, uh, it just makes you really 590 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: pay attention to what you're eating. And that's always good 591 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: if you're like keeping food journals and trying to clean 592 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: up your diet, even if for something that ends up 593 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: being a psycho somatic food reaction, which is a thing. 594 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: Um that's okay, and those psychosomatic food reactions are real. 595 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: I mean, just because it's not a physiological response doesn't 596 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: mean your body doesn't go a certain direction because you think, 597 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna eat this slice of bread and 598 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna make me feel like crap. It's like a 599 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: self fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But paying attention 600 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: to your diet in general can be a positive result 601 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: of one of these, so Brenda and any out with God, right, 602 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: that's the thing is, like, yes, there are positive benefits. 603 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: There's also pitfalls and pratfalls, and some of them can 604 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: be substantial, like accidentally ending up malnourished or accidentally triggering 605 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: UM an eating disorder in yourself. Um, And so again 606 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: this is why it's good to go see your professional. 607 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: But but I think the fact that there's just so 608 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: many people who have just come up with their own 609 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: elimination diet and like blog about it and now have 610 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,479 Speaker 1: like licensing agreements with hot dog companies because you're allowed 611 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: to eat hot dogs on this elimination diet, which makes 612 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: zero sense. Um, it's like a it's a it's just 613 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: to me, it's a symptom of a larger death of 614 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: of expertise that that we're going through. You don't have 615 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: to be an expert at anything. You don't have to 616 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: be actually to know what you're talking about. It's a 617 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: good way to say it. You can start a blog 618 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: or a website or an Instagram and people follow what 619 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: you're saying, even if you like, I have no idea 620 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Yeah, and then like this stuff you're 621 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: saying isn't backed by any research or peer view or whatever. 622 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: And I realized, like, you can look at what we 623 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: do from a certain perspective and be like, that's pretty 624 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: rich that you're even bringing this up, Pal, But we 625 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: like that we're not experts, but we defer to experts. 626 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: Typically we like there are research is based on stuff 627 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: that experts have come up with, are people who know 628 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: what they're talking about have come up with And this 629 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: is very largely like some dude just came up with 630 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: his elimination diet, and now you know, ten percent of 631 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: the country's trying it themselves and the hopes that it 632 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: will it will finally change their their life in some 633 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: positive way. And um, I don't know it was that 634 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: the Hannah Matthews orthorexia article really kind of was eye 635 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: opening to how I view food too, Like it's definitely, um, 636 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: like my attitude towards food has changed, that there's definitely 637 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: something you just shouldn't need, that it's better food that's terrible, 638 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: and and like that, you know, stay away from that. 639 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: And I realized, like I think about food a lot, 640 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: and it's not just I want to eat, but also 641 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: I should stay away from this or whatever. And it's 642 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people are kind of 643 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: moving in that direction, just kind of developing unhealthy relationship 644 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: with food. But then I asked myself, so what I 645 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: just should stop paying attention to just eat whatever. And 646 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: I can tell you based on history when I do 647 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: that I tend to get a little tubby, a little 648 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: unhealthy and unhappy by a little. Yeah, a little, I 649 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: mean like a lot. Right, So that points me to 650 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: this direction that there's a third thing. There's some underlying 651 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: thing that has to do with my relationship with food 652 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: that I've not gotten to the bottom yet. But just 653 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: obsessing over healthy food versus toxic food or whatever, it helps, 654 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: Like I definitely eat better and I feel better than general. 655 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: But if you're still thinking too much about something, if 656 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: something that shouldn't be as big a component of your 657 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: life is a big component, then it suggests that there's 658 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: something else there that you haven't gotten to the bottom of. 659 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: And I'm talking to you specifically, Brenda and Eddie. Somewhere 660 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: between you and me there is a healthy middle ground, 661 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: and that's probably Jerry. That's right. It always comes down 662 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: to Jerry Chuck. That's right. Have you got anything else? Uh? No, 663 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: I will say though that um for all you Billy 664 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: Joel fans, and I very much purposely said Brenda and Eddie, 665 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: So save your emails, okay, Well, also save your emails 666 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: because now I know even though I had no idea 667 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: until just now, I said Sally and Tom because I 668 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: have no imagination. Yeah, well know that great Springsteen song 669 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: Sally and Tom ride west Man. That's pretty believable, Chuck, 670 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: is it a real song? No, Springstein certainly saying about 671 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people. But that's that's what I mean. 672 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: That was believable joke. Uh. If you want to know 673 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: more about elimination diets, um man, they're they're out there. 674 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: But go see your nutritionists. That's our advice. And since 675 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 1: I said nutrition, this is time for listening, may you. Yeah, 676 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: and this is uh not so much a listener mail 677 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: as it is a little shout out to our friends 678 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: at COED. That's right. So everyone, if you are not 679 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: hip to co ED, let us fill you in. Because 680 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: back in two thousand nine, oh man, it's been a while. 681 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: Back in I think two thousand nine, COED, which is 682 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: the Cooperative for Education, said hey, guys, we've got this 683 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: cool um ngo down in Guatemala where we see to 684 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: it that as many indigenous Guatemalan kids get educations where 685 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: otherwise they wouldn't, and we want to come show you 686 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: what we got. So we ended up going down there 687 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: and did a two part episode about what we saw. Yeah, 688 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: it was it was really cool, and they've been We've 689 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: been kind of working with them off and on through 690 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: the years to help raise awareness. And I think my 691 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: favorite thing about their organization is how specific their mission is. Uh, 692 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: they're not They're they're literally trying to educate kids because 693 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: they think that is the basis of pulling people out 694 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: of the cycle of poverty. And they're right, because it's working. Uh. 695 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: And right now they have something going on called the 696 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: Thousand Girls Initiative and they are trying to keep literally 697 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: one thousand girls in Guatemala from dropping out of school 698 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: because education is really what it takes to break the 699 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: cycle of poverty everywhere, but especially in UH in rural Guatemala. Yeah, 700 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: from their research, they found that um, something like twelve 701 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: years of education is what it takes to break the 702 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: cycle of poverty in Guatemala, but that the average rural 703 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: Guatemalan has about a one and twenty chance of getting 704 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: twelve years of education. So what they do is they 705 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: have a several a number of programs set up, but 706 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: one of them is where you are sponsored and you 707 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: bought your paying in as a kid, You're paying into 708 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: this book fund and you get your books up front. 709 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: But then as you're paying in over time, and it's 710 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: enough that even like UM, some of the poorest of 711 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: the rural Guatemalan families can can pay for this um. 712 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: When the books run out, you can replace them from 713 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: this fund that you've been paying into over time, or 714 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 1: if the books stay good, you can buy more books 715 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: that you didn't have before, or things like computers and 716 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: all this stuff. And so kids who would have normally 717 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: had to drop out of school and work in the 718 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: fields with their families now have a chance to stay 719 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: in because they're not costing their families as much by 720 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: going to school, so their families can invest in their 721 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: kids education. Yeah, you can sponsor one of these students 722 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: for eighty dollars a month, or if you want to 723 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: only pay forty dollars a month, you can do that 724 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: because they will pair you with another sponsor. And all 725 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: you have to do is go to Thousand Girls Initiative 726 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: dot org or just go to the co ed page. 727 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,439 Speaker 1: They have a lot of great ways you can take part. 728 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's it's one of these things 729 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: where you are literally like, I'm sponsoring this girl. That's 730 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: her name, there's her picture, and she's going to get 731 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: to go to school now because is I'm pairing up 732 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: with someone else and throwing forty dollars a month their way? Uh? 733 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: And it's it once again. Thousands girls initiative dot org 734 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: can mean anything more worthwhile, agreed, man um, So go 735 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: check them out and if you want to get in 736 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: touch with us in the meantime, you can hang out 737 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: with us at our home on the web. Stuff you 738 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: Should Know dot Com, where you'll find links to all 739 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,439 Speaker 1: of our social media accounts, and you can also send 740 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: us an email. Just send it off to Stuff Podcasts 741 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: how Stuff Works dot com for more on this and 742 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: thousands of other topics. Is it how stuff Works dot com.