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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex podcast from the Action Network

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Speaker 1: and Fantasy Labs. I'm your host, Chris reebn NFL. Week

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Speaker 1: four is here. This is our player projections episode, joining

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Speaker 1: A man who had sixteen to one is best last week,

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Speaker 1: But we're going to jump into our quarterbacks and go

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Speaker 1: from there. This week we'll give our top five at

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Speaker 1: each position guys were high and low on. We'll also

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Speaker 1: set a player prop as well. Before we do, just

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Speaker 1: to check it out. All right, some nice hits for

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Speaker 1: you in Zach Sharbonay Sam Darnold last week. Uh, let's

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Speaker 2: I got Josh Allen number one? Uh, then Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So all these all these running quarterbacks in one

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Speaker 1: of right there. But I don't think the Carolina matchup

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Speaker 1: Funny man, oh man, how about that Vikings defense?

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Speaker 1: Who are you high on at quarterback this week?

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Speaker 1: So I think it's just a constant conscious effort to

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Speaker 1: nothing sets up for an above expectation passing performance from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they might not need to throw much. You know,

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Speaker 2: this Chargers offense might not be able to put up

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Speaker 2: you know they have Tyler Heinekey put their offensive line

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Speaker 2: So we're just gonna see a ton of Carson Steel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just to it so people can have context. I'll

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Speaker 1: So yeah, in a game like this on the road,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go to Anthony Richardson because this is we

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Speaker 1: I think, not just for Richardson himself, but even you

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna set his line against in a in

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Speaker 1: a game we don't expect there to be many you know,

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Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, I got it right around there. You have

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Speaker 2: this completion percentage round, like fifty six, fifty seven. I'm

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Speaker 1: Smart Yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's like if you.

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Speaker 2: sixteen a half range. But he's just a great tad

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Speaker 1: Crazy because that's usually just oh man, it's overreaction. Bet

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Speaker 2: But with him he scrambles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ten seventeen and nine unbelievable. Yeah, a couple of

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Speaker 2: And don't trade Pittman away because if Richardson goes down

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Speaker 2: I saw there's another funny tweet. It was like Anthony

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Speaker 2: Richardson makes the throws ninety nine percent of quarterbacks can't make,

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Speaker 2: and then he can't make throws that nine quarterbacks can.

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Speaker 2: So that's just the Anthony Richardson experience. Unfortunately it unlike exactly.

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Speaker 1: Running back Week four, who's going to have five?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's see, I got Alvin Kamara, Jordan Mason, Saquon, Barkley,

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Speaker 2: Brace Hall, and Kyen Williams.

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Speaker 1: I got Barkley, Hall, John Robinson, Kamara and Mason hue Hi.

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Speaker 2: I'm high on Aaron Jones. He's my rb RB seven.

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Speaker 2: This week I ended up being really high on Jones

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Speaker 2: last week, despite you know, ty Chandler really mixing in

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Speaker 2: he doesn't need that many touches to produce. But still,

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Speaker 2: he just had a massive game, you know, nineteen carriages,

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Speaker 2: he's going to keep it rolling here and we have

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Speaker 2: the ultimate revenge game spot for him because they're not

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Speaker 2: you better believe he's gonna get you know, some extra

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Speaker 2: just given just how good this Vikings offense and the

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Speaker 2: ty Chandler is an excellent you know, backup running back

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Speaker 2: He's my RB thirty six. I was low on him

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Speaker 2: last week, but you know, Zach Moss, he just continue

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Speaker 2: just give Chase Brown more work. They got to do something.

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Speaker 2: So and I'm never assuming a positive game script ever

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Speaker 2: But again, he's a back that could start producing RB

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Speaker 1: on the road going across the country, I think he's

431
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Speaker 1: gonna get a ton of snaps. He's looked great in

432
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: the receiving game when he gets the opportunity, and he's

433
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 1: still gonna be a goal lineback. And now that you

434
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: have Jayden Daniels, I think it just elevates this entire offense.

435
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 1: So you're gonna start converting on more first downs and

436
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: just extending more drives and just having more opportunities for

437
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: Robinson without having to worry about in Austin Exler or

438
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: anybody like that. And we know this team is willing

439
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: to feed Robinson. Even though he only got average two

440
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: yards to carry against Cincinnati, he had they still get

441
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: him sixteen. So and that's with Daniels doing all that

442
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: he does. So I think Robinson with Eckler out, is

443
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: he he has RB one overall upside?

444
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 2: Where do you having ranked right now?

445
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: I think RB nine, Oh nice?

446
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're assuming that that goes out obviously, but.

447
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: They said he didn't travel too so I think concussion.

448
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: So I think I'm pretty sure. Yeah, sorry official, who

449
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: at running back before he gets a prop yet?

450
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? For Sean White running back thirty three to open

451
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 2: the week for me? Yeah, I know, and this is

452
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 2: this is a great matchup for running backs two against

453
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: the Eagles. But you know, like I've been saying, you know,

454
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: he was a prime bus candidate just due to Bucky

455
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: Irving getting drafted in the fourth round. You know, the

456
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: Buccaneers really haven't had anybody to have compete with for

457
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: touches with White. And last year, you know, he played

458
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: all seventeen games. There was just a lot of signs

459
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,719
Speaker 2: that he was being overrated as like RB thirteen in drafts,

460
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: and you know he's still you know, a great pass

461
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: catching back and everything. I still think he's going to

462
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: get work. But I think Bucky's made this probably a

463
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty split going Ford. Todd Bowles has even

464
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: said as much that, you know, Bucky needs to start

465
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: getting more reps going forward. So it's unfortunate. You know,

466
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: you probably still have to play White again. He's probably

467
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 2: in the RB three flex mix. But this is not

468
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: what you expected when you drafted him, you know, like

469
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 2: I said, as a fringe RB one. So you know,

470
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: just the inefficiency has continued in the year three with

471
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: White and yeah, I have one slot lower than Bucky Irving.

472
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: I have them thirty two and thirty three right now.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Bucks have been, you know, since last year,

474
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: popping in our Action Network Luck rankings, which just kind

475
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: of highlight teams that are performing above expectation given you know,

476
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: feel down and distance and all that good stuff luck.

477
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: So like turnover, look just everything taken out. So you're

478
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: starting to see I just think some regression with the

479
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: Bucks period because their offensive line, really, especially on the interior,

480
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: was never that good for even White to have a

481
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: season like he had last year, and they all everyone

482
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: stayed healthy, and you know this year it's kind of

483
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: been a little bit more up and down, So I

484
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 1: mean they they definitely need to get Bucky in there

485
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: because they at this point Mike Evans is kind of

486
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: disappearing for stretches. Know what kind of body type he is.

487
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: He's not gonna get separation all the time. You don't

488
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: want to put Baker and turnover worthy Roaw territory all

489
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: the time. So I think it would be smart for

490
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: them these both of these backs and give them both

491
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: flex value, to be honest, because once you can't rely

492
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: on Evans for those you know, seventy eighty yards a

493
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: game down the field, you got to get him some

494
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: other way, and I think both of them could do

495
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: it yards after the catch and things like that. For me,

496
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: it's got to be the Bronco running backs not named

497
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: Tyler Bady, because I just need to have a wait

498
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: and see week and see if he factors in like

499
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: Sean Payton says he will. Last week, I thought the

500
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: same thing would happen, and you saw in the fourth quarter,

501
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: especially now the game was out of hand. So it's

502
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: the only reason I think he still need to see

503
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: another week of it. But Batty came in and outproduced

504
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: anything that Williams and mclafflin have done this season, and

505
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: with Williams even dating back to last year, he has

506
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: an average more than you know. He hasn't hit the

507
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: four yards of carry mark in about thirteen games, and

508
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: baby came in put up a nine for seventy got

509
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: ten for eighty six on the year. So Javonte, I

510
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: don't think we can really trust him to get consistent

511
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: carries anymore. He couldn't convert a goal line opportunity last week.

512
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: He struggled with his she funneled the ball and when

513
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: they were driving down the field, I think to get

514
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: another score before the half, and I don't know if

515
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: he carried after that, to be quite honest, or he

516
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: might have had some more snaps, but I'm not sure

517
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: he carried many more times. So I just think he

518
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: might be even in the doghouse. But he also is

519
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: just in danger of finally losing his job because this

520
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: inefficiency has just carried on for so long. We thought, Okay,

521
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: maybe if he gets less carries, he'll be fresher, but

522
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: that hasn't worked either, because last year they were given

523
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: him a ton of carries. He was inefficient, scaled back

524
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: a little still inefficient now this year. He hasn't even

525
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: cracked three yards of carry in a game yet, so

526
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 1: I'm just out on him. He's outside my top forty

527
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: five at running backs. He's the two, and McLaughlin's in

528
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: the top forty as well, and he might be that

529
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: might be warranted. But I think this week is a

530
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: wait and see week because Peyton explicitly said Batty is

531
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna try to work him in earlier and

532
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: he's looked like the best back in that backfield. And

533
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: that's like I've been watching, and I've been paying a

534
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: lot of attention to denverk because they're one of those

535
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: disgusting teams I want to bet on at certain spots,

536
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: So I'm always looking for anything positive to come out

537
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: of there because it's been kind of ugly. But Baty's

538
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: got popped. I can't believe they kept Watson over Baby.

539
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: I thought for sure, obviously they keep estimate on the roster,

540
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: but when they kept Watson, it was kind of a

541
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: head scratchers. But now that they brought Baby back, you

542
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: could you're seeing him get a large mike, potentially get

543
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: a large role, and that's something that's happened with a

544
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: guy like a little Jordan Humphrey for example, where he

545
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily make the roster. He's at the practice squad.

546
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: They just elevate him and he and he's on the

547
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: field for eighty percent of snap So I think you

548
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: have to be real careful with Javonte especially, but even

549
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: McLaughlin considering he had those fifteen touches in week one

550
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: and then was did nothing after that and kind of

551
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: almost he kind of got benched away. He just wasn't

552
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: really a factor. I think three touches the week after that.

553
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm off Javonte and Julil running back prop

554
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: is your call, what you got?

555
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was gonna go with something like really gross,

556
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: like DeAndre Swift rushing yards, but I'm inspired. Let's go

557
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: Tayler Beaty rushing yards. This is I agree, this is

558
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: a situation we're just gonna wait and see this week.

559
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: But this is a projection where it's like, who the

560
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: hell knows how to project this? I figure we could

561
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: come to consensus here. I'm gonna settle line here. I

562
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: don't feel confident about it, but I'm gonna go twenty

563
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: nine and a half rushing yards.

564
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: Oh so that's about about eight seventy carries on it

565
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: for a normal normal back. I'm gonna go over because, yeah,

566
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: I've been saying I've been saying it. He pops on film.

567
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: He's been the one guy to be explosive and efficient

568
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: behind that Denver offensive line, which just doesn't seem to

569
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: be the case with these other backs. So yeah, I

570
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: think I think there's multiple ways for him to get it.

571
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,239
Speaker 1: He could get it on one play. He could get

572
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: it if the Jets blow the Broncos out and it's

573
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: just he's in there for garbage time. Or you could

574
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: get it because he actually does get promoted and gets

575
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: into that RB two or even RB one role. So

576
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I like the uh. I like the different

577
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: outscrem and I'm hoping the market does post a prop

578
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: on him this week because I would love to just

579
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: bet his overs and not just have to bet on

580
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: like the other guys Unders all the time. I do

581
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: like Ben unders, but you know.

582
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: Oh, it's way more fun, especially a situation like this,

583
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: just fade a certain back, yeah, than investing in one.

584
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: Unders are the best. I'm gonna go back to that

585
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: this week. But Sean Payton had said, I think before

586
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: week one, even this backfield, he's just gonna go with

587
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: the hot hands, And that's clearly baby right now. So yeah,

588
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked that declares this, but it's such

589
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: a tricky projection right now, like it's tough. But I agree,

590
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm high on him as well.

591
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't want to. I'd rather be high on

592
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: hand and low on the other two then like high

593
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: one of them arbitrariy leak and you don't know which

594
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: one to be high like it's yeah, it's it's we

595
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: kind of saw this coming because the minute they the

596
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: minute they decided to keep three backs that they could

597
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: potentially give carries to, and that was without Piran even

598
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: making the squad. And then they keep Blake Watson and

599
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: it's just like when you start keeping, when you start keeping,

600
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: then any elevating batty anyway, So you can kind of

601
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: tell certain things by the way a team is. Like

602
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: when when I see a team elevating like multiple tight ends,

603
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, okay, they're gonna try to go a

604
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: little more you know, physical heavy sets this week, So

605
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: I might want to fade, like the low percentage route

606
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: runner like I think it was Star Tilman last week

607
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: on the Browns, So you know, things like that. You

608
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: can always kind of see these things coming if you

609
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: really pay attention. But I do think Baty could pay

610
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: off hopefully. So but I'm I'm out on Davon said,

611
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: I think you got a venture him and he hasn't

612
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: been productive anywhere all.

613
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: Right.

614
00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: Wide receiver Week number four, Jamar Chase put up a

615
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: nice nice end to the week for anyone that drafted

616
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: him early. Ceedee Lamb will start off the week on

617
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football, as will perhaps a new newer entrant

618
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: into this list. So who you got?

619
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Justin Jefferson, Rashi Rice Malik, neighbors, Ceedee Lamb,

620
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: and Nico Collins.

621
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, finally starting to get some variety in these in

622
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: these wide receivers top fives, because for a while it's

623
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: all just the same guys. But uh and yet no

624
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: Tyree Khale for now. Yeah, I got Ceedee Lamb, Jamar

625
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: Chase my week, neighbors Rashee Rice, and then Justin Jefferson.

626
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: So Jefferson might move up one or two. But you know,

627
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: there was I know there was the concern of Donald's

628
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: Nebrews and also jah Yeer has covered him pretty well,

629
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: so that's the only reason I didn't want to start

630
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: start the week with him at number one, but he

631
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: might he might move up a spot or two. But

632
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: Rice got banged up in that last game too, but

633
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: he came back so ended up catching my twelve balls.

634
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: So he's just unstoppable right now. And a Monro's lurking

635
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: as well.

636
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: Yep ku Deontay Johnson. He he opens the week as

637
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: my wide receiver ten against the Bengals, and you know,

638
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: I figured Andy Dalton would give the entire Carolina offense

639
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: a boost, but Deontay really gets a massive upgrade heading

640
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: in the week four because not only is he clicking

641
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: with Dalton, you know, eight catches one hundred and twenty

642
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: two yards and a touchdown with the competent quarterback hunder center,

643
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: but Adam Feelin, you know, picked up a multi week

644
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: camscing injury. He's already been placed on IR so he's

645
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: gonna miss at least a month. So that that just

646
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: makes you know, Deontay the clear number one target in

647
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: this offense with you know, little competition in a much

648
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: improved passing attack. So I'm very high at him on him,

649
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: and you know, gets to face the Bengals defense this

650
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: week that has really struggled a ton to start the season.

651
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, he opens the week inside my top ten.

652
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm very high on him this week and going forward

653
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: as long as Dalton's under center. And my other guy's

654
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: a pretty sneaky flyer here. It's Greg Dortch at wide

655
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: receiver thirty seven against the Commanders. To be clear, I'm

656
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: projecting the Cardinals as if you know Trey McBride's gonna

657
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: miss this week, he is in the concussion protocol. You know,

658
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: players typically do miss a game when this happens, and

659
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: we already know that you're playing McBride if he starts,

660
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: and you know you got to find someone else if

661
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't start. So I found it better to kind

662
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: of open the week with the scenario that the kind

663
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: of worst case scenario, so you can kind of know

664
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 2: who to pick up. And I think that you know,

665
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: Elijah Higgins will certainly pick up a lot of the

666
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: leftover snaps from McBride if he misses, but I think

667
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: Dorks will actually pick up quite a few targets if

668
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: McBride misses and he's you know, been getting seeing a

669
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: ton of work over the middle of the field, averaging

670
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: just under four receptions a game with McBride in the lineup,

671
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 2: So I think he could easily have five six catches

672
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: here if you know. McBride's out against a very suspect

673
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: Commander's pass defense, to say the least. So Greg Dorsch

674
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: might be too early to assume he'll be in the

675
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver three flex mix, but he's worth an early

676
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: week flyer just in case McBride does end up missing

677
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: this week.

678
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's You see these guys that there,

679
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: if they have that role in the right spot. You know,

680
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: look at a Darnell Mooney, it's like one hundred percent

681
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: and ray Way McLeod and Atlanta like, you're gonna have

682
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: some productive games. And this is certainly the spot for

683
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: because this defense is just so so bad. I am

684
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: high on a couple guys. So first, Stefan Diggs, I

685
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: think he is in a great spot this week. You

686
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: know mentioned already that Jacksonville the way you beat them

687
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: is through the air, So you know, I think I

688
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: know Diggs has been getting shorter targets and and whatnot

689
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: this year, but he's still catching a ton of balls

690
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: every game. Now, Tank Dell's a little bit banged up,

691
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: we'll see if he goes. Probably will, I'm getting the sense,

692
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: but now hundred percent certainty. So he's been sitting out

693
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: some of the plays in like one two personnel, So

694
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 1: that just helps Diggs and Nico Collins get a more

695
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: concentrated target share, which is always good news when you're playing,

696
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: when you're catching passes from c J. Stroud And I

697
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: just think this Minnesota defense kind of might have turned

698
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: people off to that Houston offense for a little bit.

699
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: But really that Minnesota defense is very good, and it's

700
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: just tough to decipher, especially for a young quarterback with

701
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: all those crazy schemes that Flores throws at you. So

702
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a bounce back from

703
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: Diggs this week. And I'm high in all of the

704
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: Seattle Seaheart receivers going against Detroit. I mentioned on you know,

705
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: our other our waiver Streamers pod that Detroit is a

706
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: Their defense is on the upsting, I think, but they've

707
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: been really bad against wide receivers. They're giving up the

708
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: most scheduled a top two schedule adjusted yard totals to

709
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver ones, twos and threes, and so I'm higher

710
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: than consensus on Metcalf. I'm inside the top ten with him.

711
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: I got Smith and Jigba inside the top twenty five,

712
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: and even Tyler Lockett I have as a startable option

713
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: this week. He's still seeing just enough routes and all

714
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: that stuff to I think be a factor. I'm not

715
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: writing him off just yet. And I think this Seahawks

716
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: offense under Ryan Grubb is gonna pleasantly surprise a lot

717
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: of people who's kind of flying under the radar right now.

718
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: They played some weird opponents to open the year, Like

719
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: they played a game in New England that no one

720
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: probably watched. They played a game against Skyler Thompson that

721
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: no one probably watched. But I think this offense is

722
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: looking crisp. I think Gino is playing well. And now

723
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: you're in a spot against a team that can put

724
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: up a ton of points on you and also can't

725
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: doesn't defend the wide receiver position very well. So I

726
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: like Metcalf, JSN and Lockett this week. Right, who are

727
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: you low on at wide receiver?

728
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: Lo On Xavier Worthy? He's my wide receiver forty four

729
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: to open the week up, and kind of what you're

730
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: hitting on when we're talking about you know, you're low

731
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: on Mahomes. I just don't know if the Chiefs are

732
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: gonna have to throw much against the Chargers this week

733
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: to win the game. But you know, of course Worth

734
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 2: these a threat to go off any given week. He

735
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: still has a massive weekly ceiling, but it's it's just

736
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: tough to trust them, especially after his first game. First

737
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: three games as a wide receiver three flex, he's been

738
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: sort of a blend of Terry Kill and Mikoel Hardman,

739
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: kind of hard to map him out quite yet. Luckily,

740
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: he is getting more designed, you know, run intense. I

741
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: think that's gonna continue with the check go out, so

742
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: that that does raise his floor a bit. But just

743
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: my concern is that they won't have to throw much here.

744
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: And this is also you know, his two games stretch

745
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: where he's kind of struggled is when Travis Kelsey hasn't

746
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: done much either. This could be a week they do

747
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: this squeaky wheel treatment with Kelsey and that's that's only

748
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: gonna hurt someone like Worthy, and of course Rashie Rice

749
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: is always gonna get his so I think he could

750
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: be the odd man out this week, has a very

751
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: low floor, so I think if you're if your favorite,

752
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: I'd probably go a safer out, And if you're an underdog,

753
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: sure you can tap in his upside. But he's a

754
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: guy that just has a ye range of outcomes right now,

755
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: especially this week. They're nearly double digit favorites on the road,

756
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: so tough spot to trust them in your lineup. And

757
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: the other guy's a guy I was low on last

758
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: week with Jayleen Waddle. He's my wide receiver fifty three.

759
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: You know, the Dolphins offense was actually worse than I expected.

760
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: Wattle had four catches twenty six yards. No clue. If

761
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna be Skylar Thompson, Tyer Huntley or Tim Boyle

762
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: under center, it doesn't matter. You're not playing Waddle anyway.

763
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: You still have to play Tyree kill no matter what.

764
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: But Wattle is a must sit until we see anything

765
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: out of these backup quarterbacks or until two returns.

766
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would even say Huntley is in a

767
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: one tier up from Thompson and Boyle. I mean, we

768
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: talked about Thompson last week. He's been around long enough

769
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: and really has never done much of anything. I'm surprised

770
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: that mcdannel even kept him on the roster over I

771
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: like Mike White, who you know, not great, but I

772
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: think he's just a more functional professional quarterback. Thompson, it

773
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: just seems like he's like a little kid going in

774
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: there to play quarterback and he doesn't want to take

775
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: any pressure, so he gets the ball out really quick,

776
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: but he doesn't really have that kind of arm or

777
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: processing speed. It just looks ugly when he's out there.

778
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: And then we we know Boyle it is mister like

779
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: one yard per attempt or whatever. So yeah, if Huntley's there,

780
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: I would feel the most confident. If it's if it's

781
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: still on those two other guys, oh man, it's like

782
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna get ugly. I'm all on a couple of

783
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: guys that are kind of still ranked in that fringe

784
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver three range, so I think, you know, people

785
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: may be thinking about starting them. I wouldn't think it's

786
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: going to be too high variants, and that the first

787
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: one is Michael Pittman. He's the number thirty five wide

788
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: receiver in ECR. But as we talked about, because of

789
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: the Anthony Richardson completion and the target average up the

790
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: target variants. There's a lot of uncertainty and variants in

791
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: Pittman's performance, even though he has a profile otherwise of

792
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: a guy that you would expect to be consistent. You know,

793
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: most of his work is done underneath an intermediate He

794
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: can get targeted on a high percentage of routes, but

795
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: that's just not been the case with Richardson throwing bombs,

796
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty five yards down the field, missing

797
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: easy stuff, missing, missing intermediate stuff, just missing all over

798
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: the place and you know connecting which is even more

799
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: important with Alex Peers on some spots, which that just

800
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: takes you know, a whole potential fifty sixty yard chunk

801
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: away from Pittman, who would have probably if he got

802
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: even you know, more than one player on those, it

803
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: would have been you know, two receptions plus the yard.

804
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: And so it's just not a good spot for him,

805
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: especially against a strong defense and the Pittsburgh Steelers and

806
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: then another guy it's just more It probably has something

807
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: to do with the quarterback as well, but he's been

808
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: kind of struggling for a while now. That's Calvin Ridley.

809
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's been up and down and he's outside

810
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: my top fifty. DeAndre Hopkins. We saw him getting healthier.

811
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: I think he would have played even more last week

812
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: if the game was in, you know, it was a

813
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: little closer, but he played fifty percent of the snaps.

814
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: He could easily now that he looks healthy, jump back

815
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: into that eighty ninety percent range. And Ridley just doesn't

816
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: have that profile to where he's enough of a target

817
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: hod to make it work with a guy like Hopkins

818
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: overtaking him or even coming close. Redley's target rage is

819
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: like hovering around twenty percent or lower, and no, sorry,

820
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: it's targeting. It was hovering around twenty percent. Now it's

821
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: down to sixteen percent, which is the same area as

822
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: like a Tyler boyd lower than Hopkins, lower than Spears

823
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: and Pollard. So I just don't think he's a great

824
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: bet to see volume. And that's kind of exacerbated by

825
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: the quarterback accuracy and Will Levis and the fact that

826
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: he's just still running a lot of low percentage routes

827
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: with a high A dot. So I gave Davis but

828
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: with a bad quarterback, or Old gave Davis, gave Davis

829
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: and Buffalo with a bad corrack it's just not working

830
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: out the way you wanted to. So I know he's

831
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna pop off a couple of weeks, just

832
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: have a monster week, gonna be like damn. But I

833
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: just don't think he's a startuble wide receiver. Given the

834
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: state of this Titan offense with Will Levis.

835
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: Do you think we see Mason Rudolph him?

836
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: I did, I actually do. I was thinking about that

837
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: because he just he just has a way of especially

838
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: when he first starts out, he just endearing himself to

839
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: the fan bases. I mean, Pittsburgh loved them, so they

840
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: kept him around even as a number three. So yeah,

841
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: I do, because it seems like Levis can't help himself.

842
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: He'll probably go and and and win this game. I

843
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: think he's upset Miami last last year in a game

844
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: on Monday Night, but Dallas for revenge. But he always

845
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: shows up in the weirdest spots. But man, it's been

846
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: it's been rough, and it's like my expected catch rate

847
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: for Ridley and my motto is down to like fifty four,

848
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: which is usually usually you're modeling it because you know,

849
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: if guys get a high aid dot, you want to

850
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: just take that into account and regress it. But when

851
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: it actually gets to almost the same place, because actual

852
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: catch D is fifty percent, so when they're converging at

853
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: that level of a number, the actual unexpected, that's just

854
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: not a good sign. So yeah, I'm off off mister

855
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: Ridley player prop. Yeah, let's go with Uh. We went

856
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 1: with Hill last week and you got me to Betton

857
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: over and that didn't cast. So let's go with jaywen

858
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: Waddell since he is the guy that people expected to

859
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: be able to start, maybe even in these kinds of situations. So, uh,

860
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: what said his the receiving yardage total against the Titans

861
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: at forty four and a half.

862
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good one. I was thinking like forty

863
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: two ish range. I'll go under though.

864
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's he doesn't get that.

865
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah for the unnamed who dolphins.

866
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: Right now, let's see probably not much more many more

867
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: than two hundred if that.

868
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: Oh I have it under two hundred for sure.

869
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's like they get the ball out

870
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: so quick. So a lot of us is gonna come

871
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: down a game script like if it's kind they're almost

872
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: like their passes are like runs. They just it's balls

873
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: out and it either works in most cases it doesn't.

874
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: But I just can't believe that a guy like with Daniel,

875
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: with this much of an opinion here, just like this

876
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: much knowledge about offenses and it, you know, has his

877
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: own unique offense that he felt it was gonna be

878
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: workable and doable with a concussion prone quarterback. To just

879
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: go into the season with this at quarterback and then

880
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: and then to run that kind of offense, like, it's

881
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: just it's kind of befuddling. So yeah, yeah, I'm a

882
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: little worried about that Miami to. But again they are

883
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: at home. You might see a different, whole different team

884
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: this time around, So I just got to kind of monitorate.

885
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: But I would, I would. I would be off Waddle

886
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: too if I if I could.

887
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: Their running game has been struggling too, like they can't even.

888
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, now now you're gonna add more potentially, you know what,

889
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: when Moster comes back, you already we're already looking for

890
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: right to get more involved. Wilson still there. So luckily

891
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: eight Chance has has been so efficient that most of

892
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: the time he's okay, he's getting you know, the red zone.

893
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's tough making people appreciate too a

894
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: little more I think.

895
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:11,360
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896
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00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to tight end. Who got in

920
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: the top five for week four?

921
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: Oh boy, so I'm gonna I'm gonna assume Laporta and

922
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 2: kill her out. I got I still have Travis Kelson

923
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: number one. Then I have Jake Ferguson, Dallas Goddard, Kyle

924
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: Pitts and Brock Powers.

925
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: Like that is I mean, we talked about the wide

926
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: receivers getst some variety. That is gotta be the first time.

927
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: It's like half those guys, right, Yeah, I'm right, I'm

928
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: right with you. I got Goddard number one. Yeah, tells

929
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: me to Ferguson, and then Kyle Pitts somehow and Dalton

930
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, it's a ship.

931
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: Show fell backwards in the top five those two pretty much?

932
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 2: Are you? Are you projecting a J. Brown n Davante

933
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: Smith to be out?

934
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: I have a J. Brown still out. I have DeVante

935
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: Smith is like if he but I'm leaning towards him

936
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: being out, But yes I do. But but I do

937
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: have him in right now, but just not her full snapshare.

938
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: So got it?

939
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: Mighty?

940
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: I mean he can't move any higher than one. But

941
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we wanted to see from Goddard, right,

942
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: It was just realize the potential that was always there

943
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: because he always got a pretty high target rate. He

944
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: always caught it, he was always consistent. He just didn't

945
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: have the the Monster games where Hurts looked at him repeatedly.

946
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: And now he has no choice. Yep, we hope he

947
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: has no choice.

948
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: Like I have a J. Brown in right now. I

949
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: think Davante Smith is probably the more likely receiver to

950
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 2: not play. But if they're without, like who the hell

951
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: else does he throw? Dohn Dotson singing target on like

952
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: four percent of his routes. Johnny Wilson's kind of a

953
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: low target guy. They got Paris Campbell, Barkley, Covey.

954
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: Covey's on the ir now yeah, yeah, and he got

955
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: what eight targets step first, uh whatever it was.

956
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: And they don't throw to Barkley, they don't throw the backs.

957
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, Goddard could like catch ten balls again this week,

958
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: like uh he yeah, if both receivers are out this week,

959
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: Goddard's gonna be my number one.

960
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah it's and the Bucks defense doesn't really scare you

961
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: that much either. I mean, you'd always worry about a

962
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: guy when he puts up that kind of uh, that

963
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: kind of stat one because you know the defensive coordinator, Yeah,

964
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: going to Henry Hunter. Henry did that earlier this year,

965
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: and yeah, so it's it's probably gonna not work out

966
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: as well as we wanted to. But the way tight

967
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: end has been going is just ye, there's no choice.

968
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: There's no choice. Do you got the metrics?

969
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: Do you think the Chiefs just go, Okay, we're gonna

970
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 2: do this quickly, wheel treatment here and Kelsey has a

971
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: big game or like, what what do you think is

972
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 2: going on there? I mean, they're winning, so it doesn't matter.

973
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say, you have Patrick Mahomes, that Andy

974
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: Reid and Travis Kelsey. So if if they if it's

975
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: we're four games into the season, well, three games into

976
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: the season and it hasn't come easy, I just don't

977
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: think it's I think could obviously just target him, you know,

978
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: crazy like every play, But I don't know how easy

979
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: it's going to be to actually be efficient, considering they're

980
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: already less efficient. And it's like with three games into

981
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: the season, now, if it came easy, they would have

982
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: just done it, all right, I mean he was they

983
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: played a primetime game for goodness sakes, like you know

984
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: what people we're gonna be talking about with him, So

985
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: all right, so fair, he's got some missed He's got

986
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: some missed. Yeah, you know, I got close calls on

987
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: touchdowns and things like that. So he was performing under expectation.

988
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: But I mean, we're seeing out with a bunch of

989
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 1: tight ends this year because we'll get to talking about

990
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: another guy that I think. It's kind of head scratching too.

991
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: So and even the Porta and like wasn't best productive

992
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: this year. It was he's heard now yeah.

993
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 2: And they have a bye. They have a bye next week,

994
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: so it would make sense to maybe be cautious there.

995
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey's gonna be my prop, so we'll we'll have

996
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: to figure out Travis Kelcey projection in the future. Please

997
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 2: help me, it's bad.

998
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: Who are you high on at tight End?

999
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? So, I mean I mentioned him in our waiver pod,

1000
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: but it's Tyler Conklin for me this week. He opens

1001
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: the week is my tight end thirteen. Finally got to

1002
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 2: see some production from him. I've been kind of curious

1003
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: to see how he'd fit with you know, Aaron Rodgers

1004
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 2: under center had a big game five catches, nine three yards,

1005
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 2: you know, and his route run rate has been incredible.

1006
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: He had ran around a ninety of Rogers dropacks last

1007
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: week on the season, so he's getting the playing time

1008
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: we need. You know, they're not mixing Rockert like I

1009
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: thought they might. So he's the number one tight end

1010
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: the offense. So when he gets targets from Aaron Rodgers,

1011
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: good things are going to happen. So, yeah, he might

1012
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: be inconsistent because it's a very top heavy passing attack

1013
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: with Garrett Wilson and Breise Hall and Blizards showing up,

1014
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: So he's gonna be inconsistent. But that's pretty much every

1015
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: single tight end right now. So he's pushing tight end

1016
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: one stats for me. And again, if he gets going

1017
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: in the red zone, if Aaron Rodgers starts targeting him

1018
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: in the red zone, he could pop. So I like

1019
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: him as kind of a dice roll fringe tighten one candidate,

1020
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: and like I said, opens this week is my tight

1021
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: end thirteen.

1022
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: There's got to be somebody that produces, right Like, it's

1023
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: not gonna be these guys that we expected, then it's

1024
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: got to be the guys that are just on the

1025
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: field and just back into it right and is pretty

1026
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: that's at the top, top top tier for tight ends.

1027
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: That's really about your Every tight end is gonna probably

1028
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: miss a couple of routes, either because you're just pass

1029
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: blocking on a play action or you're past blocking to

1030
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: help with the actual protection or whatever it might be.

1031
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: So I'm getting up to ninety percent means you're really

1032
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: not coming out of the game. Otherwise. I am high.

1033
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: On say Dallas Godd it's allowed.

1034
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just that's really the guy that

1035
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: he's he's up there. But I'm still once spot higher

1036
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: in ECR because ECSS Bowers is the number one. I

1037
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: think after last week, it's got to be we're.

1038
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: Still waking up, you know, yeah, making initial productions.

1039
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: I would say Friarmuth. Friarmuth is a guy who is

1040
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: just because it's kind of barren, he's kind of worked

1041
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: his way back into the equation. Pittsburgh still really has

1042
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: one pass catching threat and that is George Pickens. But

1043
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: friar Mouth is up to you know, about eighty percent

1044
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: route rate, and they have because they play with so

1045
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: many tight ends on the field. He actually could sustain

1046
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: a very high route rate because Darnold Washington tends to

1047
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: be the blocker, so because of the way they play offense,

1048
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: he might not actually have to block as much as

1049
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: most tight ends, even great receiving tight ends. It's just

1050
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: the matter of of you know, you're still talking about

1051
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: justin fields, that quarterback. But with the way tight ends

1052
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: are hurt right now and otherwise underperforming, uh is still

1053
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: one of the more talented guys. I still think he's

1054
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: worth taking a flyer on UH even this week because

1055
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: you face the Colts defense and they are very predictable defense,

1056
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: play a ton of covered three under Gus Bradley, so

1057
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: it tends to be a defense that if you want it,

1058
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: it's there for the tight end. Now. Again, Pittsburgh, they

1059
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: generally wanted to run the ball, but they seem to

1060
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: get a little more comfortable with fields now and he's

1061
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: he's kind of earned earned a little more of a leaf,

1062
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: I think. And they're gonna be indoors, no no weather conditions,

1063
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: so maybe they go and the top two running backs

1064
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: are hurt, so maybe they go a little more pass

1065
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: heavy this week again, you know, and not to be

1066
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: not being that scared of that Colts offense because they

1067
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: know if they need a turnover or something, they could

1068
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: probably get it with it Watt and those guys. So,

1069
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I kind of like Friar Ruth, but it's

1070
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a last week.

1071
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: Who are you go on? Yeah, I guess, I guess

1072
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: daltonton Kaid just because you know, he finally broke out

1073
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 2: with the three catch forty one one touchdown game, but

1074
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: he ended with the forty nine percent routes run rate,

1075
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: which obviously is due to the blowout that it was

1076
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: below fifty percent. But even when it was competitive early on,

1077
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: Dawson Knox was rotating in quite a bit, so I

1078
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: Kinkaid probably would have ended with like a fifty five

1079
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: sixty routes run rate, you know, So I'm slightly down

1080
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: on him with that usage. Obviously, if you have me

1081
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: have to play, he's my tight nine eight still, but

1082
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 2: just with tight end such a disaster, it's a shame

1083
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: that he couldn't step up to be like a top three,

1084
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: top two tight end right now because he certainly has

1085
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: that upside, but it might not happen unlesser until like

1086
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: Dawson Knox where to ever missed time this week, though,

1087
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: you know, it should be a pass heavy game script

1088
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: or at least a close game against the Ravens. But

1089
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: going forward, you know the Bills, they're going to be

1090
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: in a lot of games, they're leading, they're run heavy,

1091
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: so he's just not going to and they spread the

1092
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: ball around now, so he's is not offering the top

1093
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 2: five upside I thought he had, which is just kind

1094
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: of disappointing with to give it, you know, the tight

1095
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: end position the way it is right now, so still

1096
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: got planned. But he's my tight end eight. And then

1097
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: I think it's time we have our conversation about Mark Andrews. Yeah,

1098
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: he is now my tight end seventeen to open the

1099
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: week and say he really has Yeah, he really hit

1100
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: rock bomb last week. Didn't catch a single pass again,

1101
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: that happens, but he only ran around on thirty five

1102
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: percent of Lamar's dropbacks. Likely ran around on fifty nine percent,

1103
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: so that's not good. And John Harbaugh mentioned, you know,

1104
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 2: guys roles will change in this offense on a weekly basis,

1105
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 2: so that means that you know, Andrews might bounce back

1106
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: next week. But we have now seen that Andrews range

1107
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: of outcomes involves a thirty five percent routes round rate,

1108
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: so you can't play him. I don't know if you

1109
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: can drop him. But we're getting to the point where

1110
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews is boroline droppable.

1111
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I forget what happened, but I was

1112
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 1: watching like one game at that point, and it wasn't

1113
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: raven It wasn't the Ravens game, So I was like

1114
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: focused on one thing. Maybe it was a Broncos because

1115
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: I no, I don't know, I don't I forget who

1116
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: it was, but it doesn't matter. Point is all of

1117
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: a sudden, I just see I started seeing tweets about how,

1118
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: like after the game's over, about how Mark Andrews just

1119
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: had like this killer package where he laid some killer

1120
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: blocks like on the edge, and I was like, like,

1121
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: I just study. I just thought he was in it

1122
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: out of the lineup because he was hurt or something. Uh,

1123
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: you know, because I hadn't I hadn't seen the splits yet,

1124
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: so I'm just kind of like wondering why he's not

1125
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: showing up in the box score. So I didn't get

1126
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: to see the game yet. And yeah, if people were

1127
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: tweeting about how he's he's got a package of blocks

1128
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: now It's like that's that's the state of the tight

1129
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: end position this year. A guy we thought could potentially

1130
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: challenge Outside Shot for the number one overall scorer at

1131
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: the position is getting a thirty five route rate and

1132
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: a package of blocks that is that isn't rough Man.

1133
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I am. I'm well on basically the whole position.

1134
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: But Bowers, if he's still going to be number one

1135
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: in ECR, I'm well on him. He's more toward like

1136
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 1: a back end tight end one for me, just because

1137
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: another guy who kind of like Kinkaid, there's inconsistency with

1138
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 1: the split between him and Michael Mayer every given week

1139
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: and just how much they use uh to you know,

1140
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: one two personnel and it's still early enough for his

1141
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: career that we just don't know, right, And then the

1142
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: quarterback situation compounds it a little bit as well. Uh yeah,

1143
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: I know he's he's coming. We might get to see

1144
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: him like for even more a longer duration and this

1145
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: week and going forward, because yeah, they can't quit him,

1146
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: just like you.

1147
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: Rudofs Rudolph the NFL.

1148
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I like Mason Rudoff. He won me

1149
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: some money, uh you know it just betting on the Steelers.

1150
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: But I was going to say that it's so rough

1151
00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: at tight end that even projecting likely with a more

1152
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: consistent snap rate than Andrews because he's been around sixty

1153
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: percent at least for most of the year. It's all

1154
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: the variation has been a lot smaller. But even he

1155
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: comes out, it's like tight End seventeen two right there

1156
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: with Andrews. It's just my god, it's it's like, I

1157
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: want to like these tight ends. They're just it's tough, man,

1158
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: it's really help.

1159
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: We're I'm starting Johnny Mont, Tommy Tremble, Elijah Higgins. What

1160
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 2: the hell's going on right now? No a fan?

1161
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean, geezh, yeezus, it's ugly out there, all right,

1162
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: prop which you got.

1163
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: Well, we're going Travis Kelcey that this is the lowest

1164
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: projection I think I've ever seen, even like his Week

1165
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: eighteen projections when they're expected to play like a quarter

1166
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: and a half and they pull the starters. That's what

1167
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: we're talking about here. Oh my god, I don't know

1168
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: what to do here. I'm gonna set the line at

1169
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: forty two and a half.

1170
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: That's a good line, oh man.

1171
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: Actually, Travis Kelsey versus will Disley and Hayden Hurst.

1172
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: That would be no contest. He's got to go to

1173
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: the Chargers guys. Maybe if you throw me some shown

1174
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: smart and Eric Thomlinson, it's pretty.

1175
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: Close, yeah, Tomlinson. If you combine those close, especially if

1176
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: Palmer's out again, all right, you're going over under.

1177
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking, I'm trying to stimulate in my head.

1178
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under. You know, it's it's the game environment.

1179
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: I just don't love it. You might still need five

1180
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: catches for that. And he hasn't to getting the volume.

1181
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: And what are the Chargers. They're definitely in the top

1182
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: five three even in an e p A per play allowed.

1183
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 2: So yeah, James though, that's true.

1184
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: But I mean, come on, we've tried to give it

1185
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: Kelsey every possible benefit of Oh it's a five time game.

1186
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: It's the greasy wheel. Two other guys got got hot

1187
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: before him. All these other guys there, Yeah, right, exactly.

1188
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: It's like, so I wrote up, uh, the game guide

1189
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: for Falcons Chiefs for Monday Night Football, and I probably

1190
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: the first time I got through the whole article not

1191
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: trying not to mention Kelsey just didn't have to like,

1192
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: I just he did not factor into anything about the

1193
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: bet or the breakdown of the game. That's how that's

1194
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: how bad it is. So of course it means he'll

1195
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: go off this week. But we've been saying that too.

1196
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: We've been trying to talk him into going off, like oh,

1197
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: we're down on it just doesn't happen. So I'm at

1198
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: a loss man. But it's just kind of weird how

1199
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: I noticed that the tight end target pro route rate

1200
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: is down across the league. It's down to about sixteen percent,

1201
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: where it's usually seventeen minutes, a little closer to eighteen

1202
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: even some years. So it's down across the board. And

1203
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: then you're seeing coaches even willingly like, Okay, we're gonna

1204
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: use Mark Andrews as a blocker and not really put

1205
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: him in on a bunch of routes. We're gonna put

1206
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: break brock Boles has a breakout, and then we're gonna

1207
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: decrease his snapshare. Don't kin k. We're not gonna unwish him.

1208
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: But it's just weird to me how a lot of

1209
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: these guys just it's like almost willing, And then you

1210
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: have other guys who just get around the fee and

1211
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: just not getting targeted at all Kelsey Aton. So it's

1212
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: it's it's been a weird year man for tight ends.

1213
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill has to save us again.

1214
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: I guess yep, yep, all.

1215
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,640
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