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Speaker 1: Welcome back, guys. You probably don't know why we're laughing,
Speaker 1: but Dave just has his stats sheets just a complete mess. Travel.
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Speaker 1: from just as messy as the game, just as messy
Speaker 1: as the game. The Cowboys lose to well ten against
Speaker 1: the Saints, and that was not necessarily what we expected
Speaker 1: the game to be. I mean, we were talking a
Speaker 1: lot about scoring more points than that, but the Cowboys
Speaker 1: failed to move the ball. There were a lot of
Speaker 1: things that didn't seem quite like the offense that we've
Speaker 1: been seeing so far. Let's just start off with their performance.
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, what he wasn't able to get done. You
Speaker 1: know during the game, you know what I thought that.
Speaker 1: You know, you're right, we didn't expect that. I don't
Speaker 1: know why we didn't. I mean last year it was
Speaker 1: kind of that kind of game, but we just thought, well,
Speaker 1: that was kind of different, and it would it would
Speaker 1: open up, and you know, I just kind of felt
Speaker 1: like the offense just thought that, well, now I missed
Speaker 1: that one to Randall Cobble, or we'll come back, you know,
Speaker 1: fumble there. No, that was unfortunate. Before you know it,
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of the third quarter and almost
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you're like, they don't have any points, Like
Speaker 1: it's like that at some point they're gonna get into
Speaker 1: into gear and they never did. And it's unfortunate. I
Speaker 1: thought the Cowboys were a better football team. I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought they were better than that. I still think
Speaker 1: they're better than the Saints. But that's what's embarrassing about
Speaker 1: it is losing a game like that. Yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm aggravated with myself just because I felt like I
Speaker 1: was halfway there, Like a lot of it I did
Speaker 1: expect to see. Like what we saw on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball against the Saints was exactly what
Speaker 1: I expected to see. Like a lot of Ben don't
Speaker 1: break Kamara and Mike Thomas, they got their yards, they
Speaker 1: didn't break the game wide open. Forced the Saints to
Speaker 1: settle for a lot of field goals that played out
Speaker 1: according to script perfectly, and then I just you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be the most amazing offensive
Speaker 1: performance of the season, but it was. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was basically a no show. They just they looked rough.
Speaker 1: They looked like the first four games of last season.
Speaker 1: Like go throw on the Panthers tape from the season
Speaker 1: opening last year, and that's what it reminded me of.
Speaker 1: Like Zeke couldn't get any running room, That's what. But
Speaker 1: my biggest expectations were to see Zeke running the ball,
Speaker 1: and he only got thirty five yards. Again, I'll sound
Speaker 1: like a douche. I'm sorry, Like I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: expect to see that. I said it on the show
Speaker 1: last week. I was like, I don't think you're going
Speaker 1: to have a lot of success charging Zeke up the
Speaker 1: middle against this defense. I know the stats don't look
Speaker 1: good on the Saints part, but I think they're up
Speaker 1: to stopping that. And the Cowboys disagreed with me, because
Speaker 1: that's all they wanted to do all night long, was
Speaker 1: just charge him into a loaded front. Well, when you
Speaker 1: have Michael galloping there and then Mark battling with the
Speaker 1: ankle thing. The run game didn't work. The Cowboys receivers
Speaker 1: couldn't get open for whatever, for whatever reason you want
Speaker 1: to pinpoint, when you're tight ends or your leading receivers,
Speaker 1: it's never it's not going to be a good thing
Speaker 1: unless you have like you know, Jason Kelsey, Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: excuse me, if you have him, then he can be
Speaker 1: your leading receiver. Jason Witten and Blake Jarwin. If they're
Speaker 1: your leading receivers, it's not gonna be a good night.
Speaker 1: And the offense just was bad the receivers. And I
Speaker 1: said it last week and Derek Um we just we
Speaker 1: just got started here talking about how bad it was offensively. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty bad. I think from a receiver standpoint. I said
Speaker 1: it two weeks ago. Well, we'll see, is Gallup you
Speaker 1: know that good? Is he making that much you know improvement?
Speaker 1: Or is this offense is so good that the second
Speaker 1: guy is gonna get in there? And I was wrong
Speaker 1: about that. I mean they're missing Gallup, they're missing another
Speaker 1: playmaker because Devin Smith can't really get open. Randall Cobb
Speaker 1: is him or miss with him. It's just like it
Speaker 1: works sometimes. But then another times it's just it doesn't happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he had you know, he didn't play. Is
Speaker 1: great that they missed on two big plays Cobb and Dak.
Speaker 1: One of them was on Dak, other one I think
Speaker 1: was really more on Cobbin in the fourth quarter. But
Speaker 1: either way, the receivers aren't getting open, you gotta put
Speaker 1: Cooper in there as well. Are we allowing for the
Speaker 1: fact that maybe the quarterback didn't have his best game
Speaker 1: and so if if it's a part of saying that
Speaker 1: weren't getting open, could it have been a situation where
Speaker 1: they were open more often than they got the ball
Speaker 1: and the quarterback just didn't get them the ball as affect,
Speaker 1: there are there plays going around like social media and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I haven't seen that. The thing is,
Speaker 1: is there some places where it's like, oh he missed
Speaker 1: that one. Well, I mean it's the cop throw is
Speaker 1: a classic example one no, no, no, the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, cops should have caught that ball. It
Speaker 1: wasn't well placed passed. It can be both, like everybody
Speaker 1: wants to pick out both. But I think he put
Speaker 1: the ball where he needed to on that place. He
Speaker 1: actually don't I don't put that as much on dec
Speaker 1: because I think if you look at it, Lottimore. I
Speaker 1: think it was a Lottimore that was coming straight for him,
Speaker 1: And if he'd have thrown that ball in front of him,
Speaker 1: the cop would have might not have gotten up. I
Speaker 1: mean he was he was answering. So sometimes the quarterback
Speaker 1: has to protect him from what's around them. And I
Speaker 1: think that was a situation where he threw it behind
Speaker 1: him so that he wouldn't run him right into that
Speaker 1: think to sound like Garrett, but on that play right there,
Speaker 1: and and it happens every time these guys are going
Speaker 1: over the middle receivers. Yeah, they want to be like
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice and just be right there catch it on
Speaker 1: the move. But line one is catch the football. So
Speaker 1: he has to stop and say, all right, that's not
Speaker 1: where I wanted to be, but I've got to catch
Speaker 1: it and then turn up the field and see and
Speaker 1: he kind of tried to do it all they're showing
Speaker 1: the play right there, and you could see you could
Speaker 1: see he was I mean, he had a beat on
Speaker 1: him and he was coming for him. And without that,
Speaker 1: without him he showed and you couldn't see. You need
Speaker 1: another I am a firm believer that at the NFL level,
Speaker 1: if the ball hits both of your hands, it should
Speaker 1: be a catch. Me too, But thank you, he had
Speaker 1: to turn awkwardly, like, even with what you're saying about,
Speaker 1: Latimore could have been a better place ball and Dak
Speaker 1: had a few of those. And the crappy thing about
Speaker 1: this is like, you know when they play the Dolphins
Speaker 1: at noon and we're done with work at seven, and
Speaker 1: you can go home and watch the broadcast again or
Speaker 1: go find stuff on. So I've barely seen anything over again.
Speaker 1: Like we got on a plane. I collapsed into bed
Speaker 1: at two forty five in the morning, I got up
Speaker 1: to come to work at eight forty five, and I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see the all twenty two. I haven't.
Speaker 1: I almost it's almost irresponsible for me to try to,
Speaker 1: like to do a deep dive on what I saw
Speaker 1: because I need to see it again. If I see
Speaker 1: any pass interference, I don't know, Kyle, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we have that back there, but if we do, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me know because I have you know, the offensive
Speaker 1: pass interference? Is that what you ask I haven't seen
Speaker 1: those two with Cooper. I saw the first one because
Speaker 1: we were in the press box and you know, broke
Speaker 1: my neck to look up and see it. And I
Speaker 1: didn't think that was a really good call. But the
Speaker 1: one on the field, I don't know. I haven't well.
Speaker 1: Cooper did say after the game he was being very
Speaker 1: careful with his words, but he said the first one,
Speaker 1: he said, hey, I can understand where they would make
Speaker 1: that call. Um the second one he said, he really
Speaker 1: didn't understand it at all. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is the first one or the second one that
Speaker 1: was on the fourth quarter of the fourth quarter, it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Cooper's calling for the flag, like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: flag him. Okay, how was that not on the defense?
Speaker 1: Like they were hand fighting? There were some really bad calls.
Speaker 1: Expert showmanship by Lattimore is what that is. But the
Speaker 1: problem is Lattimore was already grabbing him. So that's where
Speaker 1: I'm like, at the war, I mean, best cases, there's
Speaker 1: a no hauled there because they were both hand fighting.
Speaker 1: And that's where, you know, it seems like this year,
Speaker 1: at least, it seems like there's more this emphasis on
Speaker 1: calling these offensive pass in affearences where there is a
Speaker 1: time when you wouldn't get that hardly at all. And
Speaker 1: again I'm not trying to say that the offense should
Speaker 1: have an unfair advantage, but I think when they're both
Speaker 1: hand fighting at the best case show, you don't you
Speaker 1: just don't call at all. I thought the officials were
Speaker 1: absolutely terrible. I think I can say that right. I
Speaker 1: mean to say they were terrible. They were terrible for
Speaker 1: both whoever lost that game. If the Cowboys get in
Speaker 1: position getting another five ten yards kick a field goal,
Speaker 1: the Saints are sitting here going that was terrible because
Speaker 1: they got bad calls too. I mean, just be consistent,
Speaker 1: Just be consistent. I mean, if you're gonna call a
Speaker 1: tikie tack these quarterbacks slide the last second and Dak
Speaker 1: barely gets hit and you're gonna give them fifteen yards,
Speaker 1: then give Bridgewater fifteen yards. When Jalen Smith does it
Speaker 1: even worse than that, that's just terrible. I mean, like
Speaker 1: the inconsistency of that and the fumble no fumble, the
Speaker 1: OPI which I hate. I really hate complaining about the
Speaker 1: refs because they it ain't change. Well, not only that,
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna change, and I really do believe like
Speaker 1: it evens out over time, like it's it, but they
Speaker 1: called that game really terribly, like they were inconsistent, they
Speaker 1: ruined the flow of the game, like it felt like
Speaker 1: there were stretches where there was a flag every other
Speaker 1: play for six seven minutes at a time, and they
Speaker 1: just sucked. They were bad. They were bad. And tomorrow
Speaker 1: maybe we can talk about some things. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: I've got some some opinions on the refs and we
Speaker 1: can talk about some of these things. I don't know
Speaker 1: if we want to bog down the show today with it,
Speaker 1: but there are some things that I really think they've
Speaker 1: got to figure out this past interference thing, and and
Speaker 1: we'll talk about tomorrow. I just feel like you've got
Speaker 1: to be able to challenge everything. If you can challenge
Speaker 1: it all, you should be able to challenge throughout the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, especially in the like that, Like I guess
Speaker 1: that Garrett didn't have a time out, but you've got
Speaker 1: to be able to challenge that. And I just think
Speaker 1: they've got to figure this out because it's a judgment
Speaker 1: called this isn't out of bounds, this is maybe it is,
Speaker 1: maybe it isn't, And those guys upstairs aren't going to
Speaker 1: sell out their guys down there and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it unless it's a crazy spearing Saints
Speaker 1: Rams play. But that play we just saw, I have
Speaker 1: a hard time thing even if they could have reviewed that,
Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking they reverse it because
Speaker 1: they still look at it and say, well, it still
Speaker 1: looks like Cooper pushed out and it still looked like
Speaker 1: the defensive back gut pushed back. So regardless of what
Speaker 1: really happened, regardless of all the hand fighting before, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to overturn that, even if you
Speaker 1: could review it. So I don't know if that necessarily
Speaker 1: even solves your problem. But I don't want to get
Speaker 1: off the rails because we can actually talk about the game.
Speaker 1: But like the stuff that happened in the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Philly game on Thursday night just convinced me concrete in
Speaker 1: my mind. They put that rule in to bail themselves
Speaker 1: out of another Saints Ram situation, like if a horrible
Speaker 1: only if a horrible call is going to dictate who
Speaker 1: goes to the super Bowl. They gave themselves and out
Speaker 1: and they're not going to use it anywhere else, Like
Speaker 1: they're they're just not going to Like I think it
Speaker 1: was you know it was past interference on Avante Maddox.
Speaker 1: I think it was Valdez scantling one of those Green
Speaker 1: Bay receivers. Like it was the most obvious past interference
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and they didn't reverse it because they
Speaker 1: don't want to open that Pandora's box. I like, they're
Speaker 1: just not going to do it unless it is something
Speaker 1: and absurd like we saw in that NFC Championship. You
Speaker 1: don't think that fumble with Zeke, I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: I don't understand the rules of what what is coming
Speaker 1: out the balls coming out or the balls out because
Speaker 1: the ball was sort of coming out when he was
Speaker 1: when his elbow was down. I always understood it as
Speaker 1: the player is losing control of the ball. I don't
Speaker 1: think he was losing control of the ball at the
Speaker 1: time his elbow was down. I thought he still had
Speaker 1: the ball. Now, whether it was moving or not is
Speaker 1: irrelevant if he still control the ball. And and so
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and that's what I understand. I don't again,
Speaker 1: when you start talking rules in the NFL, it gets
Speaker 1: so detailed out. I just honestly don't know it did.
Speaker 1: It didn't look like a fumble when I saw it,
Speaker 1: and again, like it's so funny, Like if you're listening
Speaker 1: at home, you have a much better view of what
Speaker 1: was going on. We're two miles up in the press box.
Speaker 1: The jumbotrons are one hundred and fifty feet away in
Speaker 1: each direction, so you have a view, but it's nowhere
Speaker 1: near as good as you do watching on a fifty
Speaker 1: inch TV. The ball he had the defenderant put his
Speaker 1: hand on the ball, but it wasn't out, it wasn't coming,
Speaker 1: like he hadn't caused the he hadn't called Zeke to
Speaker 1: lose control of the ball at the point that the
Speaker 1: elbow is the amount of seconds that you have to
Speaker 1: have like hold the ball after your elbow is down,
Speaker 1: or just like your elbow is down, the play is over.
Speaker 1: Once the elbows down, the play's over. It's that word.
Speaker 1: It's the word stands. The you know, the call stands
Speaker 1: as opposed to the call is confirmed. And then and
Speaker 1: this is and did they say stands? And this is
Speaker 1: the issue. I'll just say it now because we're talking
Speaker 1: about this. The problem that I have is the officials.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone saw the Detroit Kansas City
Speaker 1: game where there was a fumble, and now the officials
Speaker 1: are they don't want to blow the play dead, so
Speaker 1: they're like, well, if we blow it dead, then we
Speaker 1: might kill one hundred yard touchdown return. So they just
Speaker 1: kind of let everything stand and see what happens and
Speaker 1: all that. I get that that's fine, but then don't
Speaker 1: come back in a replay and say, well, what was
Speaker 1: the call on the field? The call in the field
Speaker 1: was a fumble. No, the call in the field was
Speaker 1: a funbel because you're saving your ass, so that's not
Speaker 1: really the call. You just did that, so you didn't
Speaker 1: so you have a backup plan. Why don't you just
Speaker 1: open it up, be you know, objective about it and
Speaker 1: go was it a fumble or not? I mean, they
Speaker 1: should really have a guylin that Tony Romo Corona commercial
Speaker 1: just sitting out there and just not even watching the
Speaker 1: game and say hey, oh wake up, okay a college
Speaker 1: rule like in how they're doing college Like there's a
Speaker 1: person that's sitting in the boot that should be just
Speaker 1: watches the game and says, oh, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: Let's do something different here, And I think that might
Speaker 1: be the right way to do. Undertake the challenges out
Speaker 1: who killed Lees. College's system is way way way better.
Speaker 1: It doesn't slow it down in the game to me,
Speaker 1: and college games go on longer than But I love football,
Speaker 1: so I don't care. Just don't really care conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: as long as we're whining about stuff that's not the
Speaker 1: actual game, Like the NFL cares more about games going
Speaker 1: quickly than whether they're right. Like that's what they care about.
Speaker 1: It true. That's so anyway, they did actually play a
Speaker 1: football game, they didn't win it. They looked pretty bad.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I don't think we're sitting here whining
Speaker 1: about what The Cowboys didn't lose the game because officials.
Speaker 1: I just thought the officials were absolutely terrible. They lost
Speaker 1: the game because they just they just kept making mistakes
Speaker 1: and thinking that it was going to get better, and
Speaker 1: before you know it, it's the fourth quarter and you've
Speaker 1: only scored ten points. All right, So I got a
Speaker 1: bigger picture perspective question, and I'm gonna take We're gonna
Speaker 1: take a break, but when we come back, I want
Speaker 1: you guys to tell me, is this really no different
Speaker 1: than what happened last year with Cowboys versus Saints From
Speaker 1: the standpoint of the nature of a close game, the
Speaker 1: difference being the home team ends up edging out because
Speaker 1: a lot of things look very similar to me. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that when we come back. This is Dallas
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the Cowboys loss last night, the first
Speaker 1: loss of the season. They now finished the first quarter
Speaker 1: of the season three and one. But just before the break,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask the question, how much how much
Speaker 1: of this is similar to what we saw last year?
Speaker 1: Last year when the Cowboys played the Saints, it was
Speaker 1: a defensive struggle. Both teams defenses played really well, both
Speaker 1: teams offenses didn't really get much going. Seemed to be
Speaker 1: the exact same thing this year. From that standpoint. The
Speaker 1: only difference is in both instances, the home team ended
Speaker 1: up being able to have just a little bit more
Speaker 1: than the road team. How many how much of a
Speaker 1: of a parallel do you see between those? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just on the surface, it's eerie. I mean it
Speaker 1: was one point off of the same score home team one.
Speaker 1: We were arguing about this a little bit before we
Speaker 1: came back. It's like, I can't go all the way
Speaker 1: there with you. I think for starters, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: I pulled up the box score, like the Cowboys played
Speaker 1: such a better game, even on de fence, Like they
Speaker 1: allowed one hundred and seventy six yards to that team,
Speaker 1: and that was with Drew Brees. U Kamara had fewer
Speaker 1: yards on more touches than he did last night. Um,
Speaker 1: that mean, I said it at the time. I still
Speaker 1: believe it's one of the greatest defensive performances I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in the NFL. And the defense played really well
Speaker 1: last night. They played well enough to win. They did
Speaker 1: not play like that, especially considering it was a different,
Speaker 1: lesser quarterback in the game. Is that also though, the
Speaker 1: difference of being on the road versus being at home
Speaker 1: to some degree. Possibly, Yeah, No, I mean that's definitely
Speaker 1: got something to do with it. And I think you
Speaker 1: can't convince me the Dome didn't have something to do
Speaker 1: with how well the Saints played on defense. It was loud,
Speaker 1: it was insane. Yeah, Derek's got a freaking noisemeter on
Speaker 1: his Apple watch that was reading one oh five on
Speaker 1: the field three. I thought I saw one oh five.
Speaker 1: Now they were on their big Boy they were saying
Speaker 1: one thirty, and so it was like, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call BS on that. But yeah, it was it was loud. Yes,
Speaker 1: we could stop with the fifty fifty. They were wrong.
Speaker 1: That article was wrong. It was more like, may have
Speaker 1: at ten percent. Well maybe there were a couple of plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it did get loud. I said, you know, we leave
Speaker 1: to go down to the field in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and I'm walking through the I was walking through the
Speaker 1: back of the press box to get to the elevator
Speaker 1: when Robert Quinn sacked Teddy on you know, to force
Speaker 1: whatever based on I was just gauging it purely from
Speaker 1: crowd noise. I was like, okay, the Saints picked up
Speaker 1: the first down because like everybody's cheering, and then the
Speaker 1: stadium announcers like Bridgewater sacked. It was like, holy crap,
Speaker 1: like that many people were excited about that. Like there
Speaker 1: were some Cowboys fans there, just not fifty percent. Not
Speaker 1: see is a beast and we got to talk about
Speaker 1: that I for real quick. Though, Even like even in
Speaker 1: that thirteen to ten game, the Cowboys offense played better.
Speaker 1: They were fifty percent on third down. Zeke had seventy
Speaker 1: five yards. He only averaged three yards three and a
Speaker 1: half yards per carry, but he ground out yards Like
Speaker 1: none of that, none of that translated last night, like
Speaker 1: the offense looked and it's, for lack of a better word,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they moved the ball fairly well.
Speaker 1: They just kept I mean, when you think about how
Speaker 1: the drives ended, the drive ended with an incomplete pass
Speaker 1: in the end zone. Cobb is there, he just misses it.
Speaker 1: Whitten fumbles that's on Witten. Doesn't happen a lot, but
Speaker 1: it happened at a bad time. Yeah, that's on Zeke
Speaker 1: and d midpoint of the the field. They had opportunities. I
Speaker 1: mean that fumble was Zeke was big because it's what
Speaker 1: six to three, got a chance to get points four
Speaker 1: half to him say you know what we're getting this?
Speaker 1: They got it and then I mean it's a six
Speaker 1: point swing because they're probably gonna go tie the game
Speaker 1: with a field goal instead it's nine to three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can big one at two point loss. Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: is going to say this later today, and I'm not
Speaker 1: making fun of him because it's true. Like it's something
Speaker 1: covering this team has taught me that. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're watching the game at home, it's like a
Speaker 1: three and a half hour marathon, but it's I mean
Speaker 1: it's nine possessions, like it's so few possessions and one
Speaker 1: of them end's in a mistouchdown pass, two of them
Speaker 1: in didn't fumbles, Like all of a sudden, that's three,
Speaker 1: you know, thirty percent of your drive where you had it.
Speaker 1: You know, it looked like you had a good chance
Speaker 1: to get points. One was in the end zone, tour
Speaker 1: at midfield, take away a third of that. If you
Speaker 1: even get field goals on all of those, then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got nineteen points. Yep, I mean
Speaker 1: it matters. And that's not to let anybody off the hook,
Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, if they I mean, there were
Speaker 1: several untimely mistakes that drastically swung the way that looked.
Speaker 1: You know, I had to feel I knew this was
Speaker 1: going to happen at some point. The whole fact of
Speaker 1: them not starting very fast and then coming back in
Speaker 1: the third quarter and moving the ball, and that's exactly
Speaker 1: what happened last night. It just wasn't enough and they
Speaker 1: weren't able to keep that going. It's unfortunate to see
Speaker 1: the mistakes that they caused themselves, you know, in their
Speaker 1: own fault. But we keep talking about killing Moore and
Speaker 1: what he's been able to do in the offense and
Speaker 1: being creative do it that, Yeah, it didn't happen like there,
Speaker 1: You're right, it did, right, And I've been super excited
Speaker 1: with what he's been able to do. But yesterday they
Speaker 1: faced the real challenge. I was telling Dave before. When
Speaker 1: you look at the teams that they've played, the previous
Speaker 1: three teams, two of those teams haven't even won a
Speaker 1: single game this season, So it's like, Okay, you start
Speaker 1: really seeing what these teams are made of. And then
Speaker 1: now you face a team like the Saints. We all
Speaker 1: knew it wasn't gonna be easy, but at least use
Speaker 1: your guys differently. You got so many different tools even
Speaker 1: without Michael galloping there. It's disappointing to me knowing that
Speaker 1: ezekularly it got paid. And then you look at this
Speaker 1: thirty five yards that usually when he's able to run
Speaker 1: the ball here and there at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: it adds up and we see that in the stats
Speaker 1: and how he was able to help. But when you
Speaker 1: look at this, it's really upsetting just the way they
Speaker 1: used him. I thought, even though the run defense is
Speaker 1: really good, I just personally feel they could have used
Speaker 1: him a lot more. We're watching here this play like
Speaker 1: there were even that one he was open on that
Speaker 1: play that they didn't complete to Cooper. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just very upsetting to see the outcome of this game,
Speaker 1: even though you you mentioned, oh, it's against the Saints
Speaker 1: and they when you look at them holding them down
Speaker 1: to ten points, when you get beat by a team
Speaker 1: that only scored field goals, that's ridiculous. Yeah, do you guys,
Speaker 1: Do you guys think that that was coming into this game?
Speaker 1: The strategy offensively was We're going to run the ball
Speaker 1: because we want to take this team. We want to
Speaker 1: take the crowd out of this game, and we feel
Speaker 1: like we can match up well to be able to
Speaker 1: run it effective. I think they always feel like they
Speaker 1: can run the ball. I think that that's just not
Speaker 1: an ego thing, but they think this team is built
Speaker 1: to They didn't do that. It didn't seem like they
Speaker 1: did that early in the season. It seemed like they
Speaker 1: came out way more great and when I say more aggressive,
Speaker 1: I mean more aggressive from the standpoint that they were
Speaker 1: passing more to set up opportunities to run. It seemed
Speaker 1: like yesterday, they came out with the intent we're gonna
Speaker 1: run to hopefully set up the pack. I think that
Speaker 1: they try to take what's there. I mean, I really
Speaker 1: believe that they you know, without Gallup, Uh, they don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that they have as much confident in
Speaker 1: the passing game. And you know, we saw it with
Speaker 1: Cobb on on a player before. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know if Cobb and Dak are on the same page
Speaker 1: as much. I mean, obviously they're not gonna be on
Speaker 1: as much as as Beasley or whatever. But I still
Speaker 1: think the Cobb situations a little you know, she said
Speaker 1: earlier's just hit or miss, and that was the way
Speaker 1: in camp too. Like he had some ten days a
Speaker 1: camp where he dropped balls unexpectedly, just random balls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's not very smooth. He there are plays that, yes,
Speaker 1: he'll be perfect, they connect perfectly, but there are some
Speaker 1: that he he just doesn't react fast enough to where
Speaker 1: it's completely in sync with Dak. You know, you've seen
Speaker 1: like for example, and Maria Cooper, Michael Gallup, they seem
Speaker 1: to be like on the same page for the most
Speaker 1: start with for the most part with Dak, but with
Speaker 1: Randall it's and I think I think too. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's don't let's don't give Himara Cooper a pass too.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's supposed to be that. He is one
Speaker 1: of the best receivers in the NFL, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: get paid that way. But I mean, I think Lattimore
Speaker 1: beat him. You know, I think Lattimore got matched up
Speaker 1: a lot and Lattimore outplayed him. And you know, he
Speaker 1: kind of whipped Xavian Howard last week. Uh in you know,
Speaker 1: we thought it was going to be very similar, but
Speaker 1: I thought Lattimore, you know, won that. If they if
Speaker 1: they're doing the top ten players like we're doing, I
Speaker 1: think Lattimore probably should be number one or two on
Speaker 1: that list. He played a really good game. I just
Speaker 1: and you know, I want to watch it again to red.
Speaker 1: But man, I would I could have can. I would
Speaker 1: have believed this was the game plan for the Dolphins
Speaker 1: because like the added, like the the vibe that I
Speaker 1: got from the Cowboys is like, we're gonna line up
Speaker 1: and our eleven are better than you're eleven, and we're
Speaker 1: just gonna bully you and do what we want against
Speaker 1: the running defense that hasn't given up a hundred yard
Speaker 1: rusheran like what thirty games and like no so and
Speaker 1: like that'stically Like I was talking about that with Brian
Speaker 1: this morning. Is like stats lie I said it last week.
Speaker 1: I was like, they're twenty sixth in the league against
Speaker 1: the run. It looks bad. I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a lot of success just trying to plow the
Speaker 1: ball on these guys. The teams that have had success
Speaker 1: against them did a lot of misdirection, did a lot
Speaker 1: of readoption. I said that at the end of the
Speaker 1: game last night is what the Cowboys wanted to do,
Speaker 1: Like where down the defense so that the four yard
Speaker 1: gains start turning into eight and ten yard gains. The
Speaker 1: Saints did it, But did you ever get the feeling
Speaker 1: like they were just smashing into the line for no reason? No,
Speaker 1: they were running screens all night. They you know, Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill had that fantastic read option keeper. They were keeping
Speaker 1: the Cowboys guessing and getting to the edge on them
Speaker 1: and getting them off balance. Like where where was that
Speaker 1: from the Cowboys? Like that was the difference? Where where
Speaker 1: was that? Why did Dak do none of that? Why
Speaker 1: did Tony Pollard cease to exist? Why were all of
Speaker 1: Zeke's carries in the A and B gaps? Doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense to me, Like it looked like nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this while y'all were talking.
Speaker 1: What was Dak's best pass of the night, like easily
Speaker 1: did what was that? It was up the middle of
Speaker 1: the scene. But it was a play action pass, wasn't it?
Speaker 1: I mean? And they did do a few of those,
Speaker 1: but like it just it did not feel like he
Speaker 1: did it fifteen times against the Giants, fifteen play action passes.
Speaker 1: He completed fourteen of them again. I need to see
Speaker 1: the game again. I struggled to believe. And they even
Speaker 1: came close to approaching that un they're smashing the run
Speaker 1: like that, then play actions what you have to do? Yea.
Speaker 1: I wish we had this play on a highlight because
Speaker 1: I don't know if if they do. But I thought
Speaker 1: the reverse to Tavon Austin, was it really been like
Speaker 1: the one time they tried something like that it worked.
Speaker 1: I mean it didn't go for forty yards, but he
Speaker 1: got it didn't work, you don't think so? No, he
Speaker 1: got seven yards six on a night when they averaged
Speaker 1: two and a half I mean the average and giving
Speaker 1: him too much credive second and five and it was
Speaker 1: a reverse to Austin. He gets three yards and they
Speaker 1: third two was the incomplete pass the cop And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Dak needs to play offensive line, but
Speaker 1: but he did miss the block. He didn't get in
Speaker 1: the way. He's like he should have if he can
Speaker 1: get in the way, And I think Tavon goes around
Speaker 1: the corner, and that could be a really big play.
Speaker 1: It was just a small little thing in the game,
Speaker 1: but he couldn't get his body around to get in
Speaker 1: front of the defensive end. Tavon's probably gonna go ten
Speaker 1: fifteen yards. It would have been a difference there. I
Speaker 1: should have put that one in five places. But my
Speaker 1: thing about that is really it goes back to as
Speaker 1: as far as a running game is concerned, there are
Speaker 1: more creative ways to run the ball, and you don't
Speaker 1: have They didn't have to just rely on Zeke just
Speaker 1: running straightforward. They could have done some of those things
Speaker 1: where Dak could have gotten the ball and run a
Speaker 1: little bit more. In design runs, you could have gotten
Speaker 1: Pollard involved a little bit more. You could have been
Speaker 1: done a little bit more in your jet sweeps. You
Speaker 1: got all these different weapons, why not use them in
Speaker 1: order to be able to pick up yards in a
Speaker 1: running game? And if nothing else, it forces a defensive
Speaker 1: respect the fact that, yes, we're gonna run, but we're
Speaker 1: not gonna run the way you think we're gonna run,
Speaker 1: and that opens up more opportunities for you to be
Speaker 1: able to run laze because you're they don't They're an
Speaker 1: outlet guessing right. They don't know who's going to get
Speaker 1: the ball at any given moment and where it's going
Speaker 1: to come from. You know, ESPN does those next gen
Speaker 1: stat charts and it's out there on Twitter, like you
Speaker 1: can see every touch of Zeke's game and where he
Speaker 1: went with the ball, and it's all it's just like
Speaker 1: twenty five little squiggly lines in between the guards basically,
Speaker 1: like it just looks gross watching some of them now.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what, you know, I'm so confused
Speaker 1: because you see the Cowboys doing so many things in
Speaker 1: the first three games of the season, and then you
Speaker 1: get to this opponent and you've it's like they were
Speaker 1: intimidated in a way. They're like they backed down a
Speaker 1: little bit from doing what they've been doing and just
Speaker 1: trying to be more explosive, more dynamic, getting everyone involved. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand that certain place that was more on the
Speaker 1: fault of the play, you know, just missing it or
Speaker 1: doing something wrong. But at the same time, it was
Speaker 1: they just didn't seem aggressive enough. No. I agree with
Speaker 1: that because I mean, why is it Devin Smith on
Speaker 1: the team, Like he's on the team because he can run.
Speaker 1: It's not because he's this great polished route runner or whatever.
Speaker 1: He's on the team because he could be a track
Speaker 1: guy and he can fly. They don't take advantage of that.
Speaker 1: And if they're if they're stacking the run like this
Speaker 1: and all the like Dave said, play action more and
Speaker 1: utilize why Devin Smith is in the game. He's not
Speaker 1: there to sit there and run passes over the middle,
Speaker 1: like least throw it deep and be aggressive and back
Speaker 1: them off. Yeah, and I thought that that was a miss.
Speaker 1: They're not throwing the ball deep down the field. But
Speaker 1: I will say that the fact of the matter is,
Speaker 1: and I was talking to Brian about this, he was
Speaker 1: able to go back and watch it, and he was
Speaker 1: saying they were in Cover two a lot last night, which, again,
Speaker 1: if you know Cover two. You know, the best way
Speaker 1: to beat it is right up the seam. That's where
Speaker 1: they had their big play. The fact that they didn't
Speaker 1: go to that consistently again, whether they're going down filled
Speaker 1: with with Devin or not. You know, maybe they just
Speaker 1: side and cover two. That's not the best option, but
Speaker 1: at least you could still get chunk plays up the same.
Speaker 1: My point is they just weren't doing that at all.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like and maybe it was because they
Speaker 1: called it. There were opportunities. Dak didn't see those guys open.
Speaker 1: Dak didn't get the ball there. And that's why I
Speaker 1: said at the beginning of the show, until I have
Speaker 1: to until I can go back and watch it for myself,
Speaker 1: I can't rely on the fact that Dak had the
Speaker 1: right the best game either, Like you can't just say
Speaker 1: I don't think we can just say that the receivers
Speaker 1: weren't getting open. This could have been a situation where
Speaker 1: they were getting open as much as they normally do
Speaker 1: and just for whatever reason, the quarterback had a bad
Speaker 1: game and the offensive line got beat. I mean, and
Speaker 1: that's something we don't see a lot of. I'm not
Speaker 1: you know, Travis Frederick really there was a couple times
Speaker 1: where he was struggling, he was missing place. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to think about Zach Barton right now. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I mean, he's not practicing very much
Speaker 1: because of a back injury. There's no way it magically
Speaker 1: feels better on Sunday. I think that there's an issue there.
Speaker 1: And then to make it worse, we haven't really talked
Speaker 1: about I don't talk about it. Well. I mean you
Speaker 1: know that that that was probably the worst play in
Speaker 1: the game in so many levels that like the Arizona
Speaker 1: game years and years ago, right, And it's so weird
Speaker 1: that you think you say that, no, because as soon
Speaker 1: as they got that sack, and I'm like, wow, this
Speaker 1: is now they do it is go get a field goal.
Speaker 1: I even thought about that Arizona game in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight, like, maybe this is not as good. Maybe
Speaker 1: they should have just kicked it to go up five.
Speaker 1: Then you get the twenty five yard line, you gotta
Speaker 1: go score touchdown. But as it turns out, the sack
Speaker 1: was a terrible decision by Dad. Gotta let it go.
Speaker 1: Then it gets thrown into Tyron Smith. Well he's out
Speaker 1: what probably three or four games, I mean, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: see Tyron is the warrior of warriors. But didn't look good,
Speaker 1: not just in the he got to walk one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty yards to the bus. That's awesome. Thanks, no
Speaker 1: golf carts available there, Like it's and intends not just
Speaker 1: he got he got carted off the sideline, tried to
Speaker 1: walk off the field and like fell to his knee
Speaker 1: after about ten feet and like it's not good, which
Speaker 1: costs them ten seconds? It did, and seconds would have
Speaker 1: been big think about. Yeah, but if you've got you know,
Speaker 1: what was the final play? What was the four seconds
Speaker 1: on that final Yeah, it was two seconds left, I
Speaker 1: think two seconds when he spiked it. Three, it's just three.
Speaker 1: If I could if I could go for the guy
Speaker 1: running the clock, he's pretty fast, so you get quick.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm sure that if I could go, if
Speaker 1: I could go back in time, and it's like all
Speaker 1: of this is gonna play out, Tyron's gonna get hurt,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get to midfield. You can spike it. You
Speaker 1: have like a fifty percent chance to win this game
Speaker 1: thirteen to twelve, or you can just kneel it and
Speaker 1: lose and have a one hundred percent chance of losing.
Speaker 1: But Tyron Smith is still healthy. I'd take that and
Speaker 1: be like, give me Tyron Smith. And that's why we're
Speaker 1: talking about the O eight game against the Cardinals. They
Speaker 1: make a fifty three yard field goal to force overtime,
Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, they came back. Now it's in overtime.
Speaker 1: And then in overtime they only play. Then ran three plays.
Speaker 1: Romo breaks his hand on one of them. Then they
Speaker 1: pumped the ball and it's blocked for a touchdown, and
Speaker 1: the punter breaks his foot and he's out. He's an
Speaker 1: All Pro punter. So you lost your quarterback for three
Speaker 1: games and your punter. You would have just missed the
Speaker 1: field goal. We lose the game. We lost anyway, so
Speaker 1: help me on this. I will say that the thirteen
Speaker 1: ten Saints win that we gush so much about Cam
Speaker 1: Fleming started at left tackle, So like, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not He's not a horrible tackle. And trust me, we've
Speaker 1: seen horrible tackles. He's not Tyron Smith. No, but he's
Speaker 1: not a horrible tackle. You can figure out ways to
Speaker 1: make this work. But I did have you must you
Speaker 1: started doing the combination of Okay, now, Tyron, now you
Speaker 1: got Sack Martin dealing with something, Travis Frederick who didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily have the best game, So all your Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: guys kind of having to deal with something. It will
Speaker 1: be night before you get to that point. I will
Speaker 1: say this, and I understand that you know you played
Speaker 1: a team without Hall of Fame quarterback, so you know
Speaker 1: you could have won that game. But injuries are are
Speaker 1: testing the depth of this team. I mean, without Tyrone Crawford,
Speaker 1: without Antoine Woods, I think Antoine Woods in the middle
Speaker 1: there that that's a that's a loss. And then of
Speaker 1: course Gallop too. You're starting to see and we'll find
Speaker 1: out when Cam Fleming comes in there too, like they're
Speaker 1: getting they don't have great depth in some of these
Speaker 1: areas too, and it's starting to be tested. Question I
Speaker 1: have for you guys, the play that that Witten ended
Speaker 1: up fumbling, that was up the same correct or. Was
Speaker 1: it like an end route? I don't remember what the
Speaker 1: route was. I just know we ended up in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field. I don't know where the route.
Speaker 1: I think they already ran it they I mean it
Speaker 1: it was like an in It was an incut, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was one of those plays. Where I
Speaker 1: was like for the fumble, I was like, man, old
Speaker 1: man still making I mean, it was a nice play
Speaker 1: where it was like just kidding, well, you know, and
Speaker 1: then he fumbles. I mean the only reason I'm saying
Speaker 1: that is because you look at that play, you look
Speaker 1: at the jar one play, you even look at the
Speaker 1: play that was the second to last play to Cob
Speaker 1: where they got its position, all of that in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field. It just screams the fact that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys missed opportunities but not taking advantage of I
Speaker 1: take the Cob play kind of out of it because
Speaker 1: you know, the Saints are guarding the sideline, so that
Speaker 1: that's going to be absolutely absolutely But I guess the
Speaker 1: point I'm making no is I do think especially if
Speaker 1: they were in cover too and I have to go
Speaker 1: back and watch this, but again talking to Brian, he
Speaker 1: says they were in covered too quite a bit last night,
Speaker 1: and it just seems to me that is a natural
Speaker 1: opportunity for you to be able to hit the seams
Speaker 1: and to try to take advantage of the middle of
Speaker 1: the field, and it just doesn't seem like they were
Speaker 1: doing it, and they did see them their most success
Speaker 1: it seemed like happened in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: Sportswriter's curses that, Like I watched the Saints Seahawks game
Speaker 1: and I was like, A J. Klein's not a very
Speaker 1: good linebacker, Like that's a favorable matchup for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and like that might be the play of the game.
Speaker 1: Balls at midfield with seven to play, you can run
Speaker 1: whatever offense you want, go tie the game or maybe
Speaker 1: take a lead going in a halftime. And he just
Speaker 1: popped it out against the goat, and it's just you know,
Speaker 1: it's not your night of Jason Witten's fumbling at midfield. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take our final break when we come back.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this defense. They held New Orleans to
Speaker 1: no offensive touchdowns. There are only four field goals allowed.
Speaker 1: They had five sacks, one interception. Uh. They own allowed
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty nine passing yards. Although Kamara seemed
Speaker 1: like he had a really I think it seemed like
Speaker 1: he had a bunch better game than he did. When
Speaker 1: I saw the statue, I was actually surprised he had
Speaker 1: as few yards as he did. Seventeen carries for sixty
Speaker 1: nine yards. Again, not a bad day, but I thought
Speaker 1: he actually it seemed like he had way more production
Speaker 1: than that. Also had three catches for twenty yards. I
Speaker 1: guess when you look at this overall, what were the
Speaker 1: positives that you can take from a performance like this,
Speaker 1: because obviously the defense played pretty well. Just as a team,
Speaker 1: thinking about how well the defense played, we've been waiting
Speaker 1: to see this defense. What positives do you take well
Speaker 1: to five sacks and an interception? Though the two things
Speaker 1: that you know you wanted them to do. To become
Speaker 1: an elite defense, you had to have more pressure, more sacks,
Speaker 1: get the turnovers, keep him out of the end zone.
Speaker 1: They did all those things. They did enough things where
Speaker 1: they should they should have won the game. And if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have five of those play, if they had
Speaker 1: two of those five that they score and they're you know,
Speaker 1: made a field goal and a touchdown, then you know
Speaker 1: they win that game twenty to twelve or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's where it should have been. But they did everything
Speaker 1: they could to win. Robert Quinn and Jayal and Smith
Speaker 1: did a great job after the game of saying, you know,
Speaker 1: this is a team effort. We're not pointing fingers. There's
Speaker 1: more we could have done. And good on them. It's
Speaker 1: week four, they're three and one. There's no reason to
Speaker 1: throw people under the bus. But they did do enough
Speaker 1: to win. They didn't need to do more. I mean,
Speaker 1: five sacks, got to take away no touchdowns. That is
Speaker 1: a winning effort in the NFL. I'm sorry, and I
Speaker 1: mean sure, theoretically they could have done more. They could
Speaker 1: have scored a defensive touchdown, whatever, but like they you
Speaker 1: cannot put that on them. And he I mean Kimara.
Speaker 1: He started to have more success in the first in
Speaker 1: the second half, you saw him. They didn't have a
Speaker 1: bad game tackling, but he you know, it's that's why
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett is so insistent on running the ball, because
Speaker 1: it gets easier as a defense gets more tired. Even still,
Speaker 1: he had eighty nine yards of offense. They held him
Speaker 1: to half of his production against Seattle. Mike Thomas had
Speaker 1: ninety five yards. Most of it was pretty quiet by
Speaker 1: NFL standards. Like I said that last week, He's like,
Speaker 1: if he has ninety yards but you keep Kimara in
Speaker 1: check and they're not going crazy, then you did your job.
Speaker 1: I don't know really what you could criticize them for.
Speaker 1: Can you talk to me a little bit about DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence and how much he was out of the game
Speaker 1: last night. I know we were watching quite a bit
Speaker 1: in just different situation where he wasn't out there, and
Speaker 1: it was in moments where you would think, hey, this
Speaker 1: is your best player, at least from a stampoint. How
Speaker 1: much money you paid him, Why is he not on
Speaker 1: the field? What do we know about that? You know,
Speaker 1: I asked Jason after the game, and he didn't really
Speaker 1: give me a good answer at all. He looked kind
Speaker 1: of pissed about it actually, because I asked him he
Speaker 1: wasn't playing in the fourth quarter on a key drive,
Speaker 1: the biggest drive of the game, and he wasn't playing,
Speaker 1: and then he kind of got in there late and
Speaker 1: then he got hurt. So I said, was he playing?
Speaker 1: Was he hurt throughout the game? Was he rotating? He's like,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be fun. Okay, Well, that we didn't answer
Speaker 1: the question at all. It needs to be asked again.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like you said, and you were like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe he's not one of the best players, and I'm
Speaker 1: like no, I mean that was You're like, the best
Speaker 1: players gotta play. Well, maybe they don't feel like he is.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, obviously they do. But but it wasn't
Speaker 1: just him. There were other guys too on the Differenceive, yeah,
Speaker 1: but nobody was missing the amount that he was. I mean,
Speaker 1: Jalen there. They've made it clear in these last couple
Speaker 1: games that Jalen they'll sit him down for a series
Speaker 1: or two. I mean it's almost like the running backs
Speaker 1: that he'll have a series where he's out of the
Speaker 1: game and no have somebody else in there, or there'll
Speaker 1: be times no, just put somebody else in. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're trying to keep him fresh or what,
Speaker 1: but they they're doing that with Jalen, But last night
Speaker 1: it was to Marcus apparently say it was it was
Speaker 1: even more than that with DeMarcus last night it seemed like, hey,
Speaker 1: more than anybody else was out of the game. And
Speaker 1: situations where you would think your best players should be
Speaker 1: in the game. Five minutes to go, you're you're down
Speaker 1: twelve to ten, your field position game, you need a
Speaker 1: field goal, and you know they paid him twenty one
Speaker 1: million dollars a year to go and make for moments
Speaker 1: like that, and so either either just say he's hurt,
Speaker 1: he's banged up, or what I mean, but don't play
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson over him, and then just trying to say,
Speaker 1: well we're rotating, that's that's false. You don't do that
Speaker 1: because you don't need a twenty one million dollar guy
Speaker 1: to do that. Because if that's the case, then and
Speaker 1: also say well, at that point of game, we should
Speaker 1: put Pollard in. They don't do that, do they. Zeke's
Speaker 1: out there, and Zeke's gonna be out there. There was
Speaker 1: this is your guy, get him out. There was a
Speaker 1: pretty clear pattern at like it was like Carrie Hider
Speaker 1: was the first and second down and the DeMarcus would
Speaker 1: come in on third. And I'm like, I know Rod
Speaker 1: likes to rotate his guys, but this is crazy, Like
Speaker 1: unless I mean, unless he's hurt, it's weird. And I
Speaker 1: don't know what else to say. And I still I
Speaker 1: take issue with the people that say he's not playing
Speaker 1: well when he is out there, because I again I
Speaker 1: think they're that's hidden stats, Like you could see him
Speaker 1: occupying double teams, blowing up the left side of the
Speaker 1: or the right side of the Saints line. He did
Speaker 1: it a few times, and I would argue, if you
Speaker 1: don't think he's part of what's leading to Robert Quinn's success,
Speaker 1: I think you're crazy. Still, what was that like, if
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he needs to be out there more often. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I kept I kept looking at the sideline to
Speaker 1: see if, like if they took his helmet away or
Speaker 1: if he looked up said and I didn't really notice
Speaker 1: anything out of the ordinary, and it's it's just confusing.
Speaker 1: And for that matter, I think it's weird with Jalen
Speaker 1: t I mean, it's it's almost like they pay him
Speaker 1: an in They're like, let's take care of them, right,
Speaker 1: Let's let's protect them once you pay him. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's the point when you let's go like they're paying guys,
Speaker 1: let's get him out there. And this is this always
Speaker 1: creates weird situations like this happens. There's way there's always
Speaker 1: more to the story than we know. Like there's so
Speaker 1: many interesting things that go on that never make it
Speaker 1: to the public, not even to like insiders like us,
Speaker 1: but they keep those things a secret, and it leads
Speaker 1: to all this speculation and it's like, well, what's wrong
Speaker 1: with DeMarcus? Does he suck now? Like is he hurt?
Speaker 1: Is he dying? Like what's going on? And like, I
Speaker 1: know I'm exaggerating for to prove the point, but like
Speaker 1: it creates this firestorm and maybe you'd be better served
Speaker 1: by just telling the truth. Like it's kind of like
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, nobody still knows why he wasn't played the
Speaker 1: end of that last year, but they just basically what
Speaker 1: didn't have him out there? And I feel like it's
Speaker 1: kind of a similar thing going with saying maybe you'd
Speaker 1: be better served by saying this is why we're doing it,
Speaker 1: and we think it's a good idea because of this,
Speaker 1: and we'll go from here, and instead they don't, and
Speaker 1: there's this firestorm about like what's wrong with Jay Lenner,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with DeMarcus? And I don't have a great
Speaker 1: answer for you, but everything we know about DeMarcus and
Speaker 1: how fiery is and how much he seems to love
Speaker 1: to play the game, it suggests to me that there's
Speaker 1: a reason why he's not out there, like he is
Speaker 1: not the kind of guy that has traditionally in his
Speaker 1: career been a guy that's out of place, like towards
Speaker 1: the end of DeMarcus DeMarcus Ware's career here he was
Speaker 1: out of game significant amount of time, like he would
Speaker 1: be on the sideline during plays that were pivotal plays
Speaker 1: in the game. That has not been what Tank has
Speaker 1: been to this point, and so it makes me think
Speaker 1: that something has changed, whether it's it's either that the
Speaker 1: team has decided they want to, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: rotate him more, or there's something going on with him
Speaker 1: and we have to figure out which one. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe this goes back to the part that he didn't
Speaker 1: have a preseason and again, you know, coming off surgery, right,
Speaker 1: and you know not to make excuses for the guy,
Speaker 1: but like you know, maybe they're trying to work these
Speaker 1: other guys in who have had more of an offseason
Speaker 1: in better condition and blah blah blah blah blah. But
Speaker 1: again none of them as good as him, No, of
Speaker 1: course not. But we're we're just spitballing here. And again
Speaker 1: it creates all these crazy side stories and it's definitely weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way his snap count. I mean,
Speaker 1: he usually plays up near seventy percent, and I just
Speaker 1: I don't buy that his snap count was anywhere near
Speaker 1: that last night in a game you needed him, you
Speaker 1: really needed him, all right, Just real quick, before we
Speaker 1: in the show, I did want to We talked a
Speaker 1: little bit about Tyren Smith, but give me a rundown
Speaker 1: on the injuries Tyran, Xavier Woods, Cavan Frasier. Do we
Speaker 1: know anything at this point about those three guys who
Speaker 1: all left the game at some point for it, dude,
Speaker 1: injuries not anything concrete. It's a significant ankle sprain situation
Speaker 1: for Tyron, which again I mean, he's like they'd say,
Speaker 1: the dreaded high Jared Jerry Jones said it's high ankle.
Speaker 1: He didn't say sprain, like you know, it's high ankle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: high ankle. So I mean Tyron's like the toughest dude
Speaker 1: I know. So I know you never want to put
Speaker 1: a definitive timetable on that, but he was moving pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like something that he's gonna be able to
Speaker 1: play with. On Sunday, Michael Gallup is on the chords,
Speaker 1: which means you know it's getting close to coming back.
Speaker 1: I still don't think he'll play this week, but we
Speaker 1: haven't I've been told that at all. I just feel like,
Speaker 1: probably not. Antoine Woods. I don't know about that one.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he if he's ready to come back.
Speaker 1: I know they need him for sure. And then for
Speaker 1: Cavon Frasier, pectoral injury out so significant, I mean just
Speaker 1: quickly ruled out in the game. I think that usually
Speaker 1: is a significant injury for it. I mean, maybe even
Speaker 1: I are I hate to throw that out there, but
Speaker 1: it could be. Let's see its Most teams do their
Speaker 1: Monday wrap up press conferences earlier in the day, whereas
Speaker 1: we're later, so four or five pm. You cool with that, though,
Speaker 1: You like the night press conference. I love I love
Speaker 1: the night press conference, especially coming after a night road game.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite. Yeah, just sit around and wait, Sit around,
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