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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Been welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Art Russing Garden with us. His website is linked up

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Speaker 2: at Coast tocoastam dot com. How many books do you

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Speaker 2: have out there now?

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Speaker 3: Art, I've got four books. In my fifth one I

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Speaker 3: told you Hollywood's Stories coming out, so that that will

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Speaker 3: be my fifth.

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Speaker 2: Good for you. Now, the interpreter of the tarot cards,

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Speaker 2: how do they know? How do you know what they

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Speaker 2: begin to say when you pull a card?

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Speaker 3: Well, so there's two two levels, George. First, I think

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Speaker 3: it's important that you study and you you study the

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Speaker 3: tarot and you learn the taro from established experts that

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Speaker 3: you know each card has a spectrum of agreed upon meanings.

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Speaker 3: And once you have a kind of a basic education

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Speaker 3: in the tarot deck, then you can trust more your

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Speaker 3: intuitive take on it within that kind of established meaning

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Speaker 3: for each card. And that's where the art form of

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Speaker 3: reading tarot comes. When you know the deck and now

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Speaker 3: you can allow your own kind of intuitions and you know,

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Speaker 3: psychic talents to kind of move into it and work

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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 2: That's very important too, though, isn't it absolutely absolutely?

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Speaker 3: It's a but one of the things about psychics that

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Speaker 3: I have known who used the tarot, and many of

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Speaker 3: them are marvelous psychics, and they use the tarot, but

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Speaker 3: they don't know the taro. They're not really taroists. They

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Speaker 3: use the tarot, they'll see and you know, some image

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Speaker 3: within one card, and the springboard their own kind of

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Speaker 3: psychic reading off of of those images. They don't necessarily

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Speaker 3: know taro the way a tarot professional should know the taro.

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Speaker 3: And so like my first book, Taro and Psychology, Spectrums

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Speaker 3: of Possibility, in the back, I have a lexicon for

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Speaker 3: each card, coming from years of research and incorporation of

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Speaker 3: all the major tarot scholars over the last three hundred years,

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Speaker 3: for each card, and then I boil it down to

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Speaker 3: phrases and keywords, so anybody can use a good tarot lexicon.

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Speaker 3: All you need is just to be kind of guided

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Speaker 3: to the basic spectrum of it in a phrase, and

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Speaker 3: then you can kind of freelance from there.

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Speaker 2: Hard I'm sure over the years you've tracked your readings

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Speaker 2: for accuracy. I'm going to put you on the spot

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Speaker 2: for a second.

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Speaker 3: How accurate are you okay? So my stock answer is,

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Speaker 3: assuming that someone is coming with the one requirement sincerity,

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Speaker 3: I would modestly say to you, George, I'm one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent accurate. However, hold on accurate is not accurate. It's

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Speaker 3: not about accuracy, it's about relevance. Accurate is kind of

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Speaker 3: a misnomer. I mean, what's accurate? Are we comparing it

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Speaker 3: to what we already know and think to be true

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Speaker 3: and determine whether that means it's accurate because it agrees

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Speaker 3: with our known understanding or is a reading on some

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Speaker 3: level relevant to what's going on now? And I would

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Speaker 3: say if a person is sincere, they will always find

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Speaker 3: relevance in a reading. Always, I with my readings, I

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Speaker 3: would say, so, I have a provision when I when

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Speaker 3: people come to me for readings, I haven't written down

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Speaker 3: my website if if after the reading you find there

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Speaker 3: was no relevance at all in the reading, then I

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Speaker 3: won't charge you. You'll get your money back. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever had anything strange or bizarre happen doing

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Speaker 2: a reading?

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Speaker 3: Art? Oh? Yes, of course? Do tell Okay, Well, I

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Speaker 3: was thinking you know of a good coast to coast

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Speaker 3: I was you know, I've been was teaching the Los

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Speaker 3: Angeles Tarot Circle for about ten years. And I started

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Speaker 3: a new class in Orange County at a woman's house

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Speaker 3: who was familiar with my work, and she offered to

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Speaker 3: allow us to meet at her house. I think she's

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Speaker 3: a Coast listener. Name is Terry, very nice lady. So

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Speaker 3: I got I went up. We had a first the

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Speaker 3: first class there was five women, and I recall, you

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Speaker 3: know what I often do before the class started. I

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Speaker 3: I do a lot of slide shows and a lot

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Speaker 3: Everything was working fine, and when I got to her house,

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Speaker 3: I set everything up and then the new the new

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Speaker 3: like I said, five women and the class was. The

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Speaker 3: And I said, well, there was a woman sitting right

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Speaker 3: Does anybody remember her name? And everybody in the in

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Speaker 3: we'll just move on and we'll do our class. So

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Speaker 3: projector wasn't working. I didn't know what was going on.

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Speaker 3: It never happened before, like so, at the end of

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Speaker 3: the class, everybody left except the woman whose house I

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Speaker 3: was in, and I was kind of apologetic, you know,

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Speaker 3: I was saying, I'm sorry, my computer wasn't working. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what was going on. She said, Art, it's

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Speaker 3: not your computer. I said, what do you mean? She said, well,

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to say anything before, but I have

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Speaker 3: a ghost. I said, you have a ghost? Really, what

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Speaker 3: do you mean? He said, well, you probably know that

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Speaker 3: it's been known that so called ghost energies can't interfere

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Speaker 3: that breaking down all the time. And I said, wow,

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Speaker 3: that's that's pretty interesting. And she said, well, when I

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Speaker 3: of years, because my sister lived next door, we started

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Speaker 3: did a little more digging, and we found out that

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Speaker 3: a girl had been murdered in the house, a girl

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Speaker 3: terribly gruesome, kind of awful story. And I believe that

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Speaker 3: that girl that was in my class that other people

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I had a ghost come in my class.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 4: George, that's cool, And I know you're gonna want someth

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Speaker 4: after hearing this. This is an amazing story.

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Speaker 1: We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Now I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine

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Speaker 4: years old now, was suffering with not just one or

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Speaker 4: two warts, but I mean a significant outbreak of warts

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Speaker 4: all over his body, so significant it impacted his ability

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Speaker 4: to really function.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil

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Speaker 5: to right. That tis book. Actually that got me thinking

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Speaker 5: about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 6: It is an amazing immuno modulator, and so I can

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Speaker 6: see that it would work.

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Speaker 4: And so at what point did you see that there

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Speaker 4: was actually improvement it's really going to work.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.

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Speaker 5: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller,

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Speaker 5: and then going down to the with just little red marks.

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Speaker 5: The whole things are gone, and we're talking about what's

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Speaker 5: you know one that size for Warner. I thought, no way,

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Speaker 5: that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to see them

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Speaker 5: get into a pair of shoes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, how wonderful.

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Speaker 5: It's great to see.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy and yeah.

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Speaker 4: Confident, absolutely wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Friends that have seen it that is blown away.

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Speaker 3: TI, this is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is awesome.

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Speaker 2: Now you you mentioned you have therapy patients for your

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Speaker 2: other basic occupation. Do you ever read the tarot cards?

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Speaker 3: Yes, you do, Yes, absolutely. I think one of them

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Speaker 3: on now not. I would say for maybe about twenty

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe we'll try maybe we'll bring in some

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Speaker 3: taro and take a look at how that kind of

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Speaker 3: fits into what we've been working on for the last months.

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Speaker 3: And people say, sure, yeah, let's try that. It's always

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Speaker 3: it's always excellent, And typically I'll do a reading in

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Speaker 3: reading and just maybe associating with two or three cards

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Speaker 3: to her about. They're kind of like a dream. You're

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Speaker 2: That's fascinating, it truly is. Yeah, since you've been doing this,

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Speaker 2: you've also dabbled with crop formations.

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Speaker 3: Yes, now, actually.

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Speaker 2: What happened there?

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Speaker 3: Well, I went on a on a crop circle expedition

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Speaker 3: with someone who's been on your show, Barbara Lamb, do.

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Speaker 6: You know, Yeah, And I went to England and you

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Speaker 6: know Wiltshire County where near Stonehenge where most of the

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Speaker 3: I was very fascinated in that and what I wanted

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Speaker 3: had a crop circle. So it just I was very

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Speaker 3: fortunate because a new circle had just formed that the

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Speaker 3: they all communicate online about new sightings of new circles,

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Speaker 3: sat in the center of the circle, and I took

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Speaker 3: asked the question, what is the message of this crop circle?

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Speaker 3: What is the what is the message that the creators

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Speaker 3: And I have a I have a picture right on

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Speaker 3: my computer right now that that was taken of that

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Speaker 3: was it was definitely some kind of inter dimensional or

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Speaker 3: very worried about Earth, which is a extremely rare and

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Speaker 3: and you need to wake up now to start getting

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Speaker 3: it together because we you know, it's not just your

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Speaker 3: is feeling the effects of the craziness that's going on

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Speaker 2: When we take calls. Next, do you want a question

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Speaker 3: What would I do is I'm going to do three

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Speaker 3: relate it to your question and you can take what

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Speaker 3: So I can hopefully do as many as I can

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Speaker 3: be very quick.

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Speaker 2: Okay, generally, when you do a reading, yeah, when does

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Speaker 3: You will get a feeling for it, but will you

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Speaker 3: need to let it marinate? You can maybe write down

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Speaker 3: some of what I'm saying, and as you sit with

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