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Speaker 1: Hoops Tonight, presented by FanDuel. Here at the volume, I'm
Speaker 1: Jason Timp Happy Tuesday, everybody. I hope all of you
Speaker 1: guys are off to another great start, in another great week,
Speaker 1: A ton of great basketball to talk today. Both home
Speaker 1: teams bounced back. I was on both of them on FanDuel,
Speaker 1: so I'm happy with how I did as a sports
Speaker 1: better tonight. I you know, the favorite, not necessarily the favorite,
Speaker 1: because Golden State is actually favored in their series, but
Speaker 1: the home team, the team with home court advantage down
Speaker 1: one zero in Game two, is a great betting opportunity
Speaker 1: because you just don't see the team with home court
Speaker 1: advantage fall behind all that often It is they are
Speaker 1: a desperate team playing on their home floor, and they
Speaker 1: have home court advantage for a reason. Typically that means
Speaker 1: that they have a lot of talent on the roster.
Speaker 1: Usually that means you're top two seed when you may
Speaker 1: make it to the second round. Right. So obviously for
Speaker 1: both of these teams, for Milwaukee and for Golden State,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of series left, a lot of opportunity
Speaker 1: to make up for what happens tonight. But I'm glad
Speaker 1: that we get longer series. Longer series means more intense basketball.
Speaker 1: I like seeing games six is in game sevens and
Speaker 1: things along those lines. So I'm gonna take it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get into Golden State Memphis. I'm gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the Dylan Brooks ejection. I want to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about the Warriors in general, with their continuity and
Speaker 1: the advantage it gives them in settings like this, because
Speaker 1: I thought it was insane with how poorly they played
Speaker 1: in so many areas of the game that they were
Speaker 1: as competitive as they were tonight. And then at the end,
Speaker 1: we're gonna play a game of That's what he said,
Speaker 1: where we go over some of the best sound bites
Speaker 1: around the world of sports at the end of the
Speaker 1: show with my guy Carson. But let's start with Golden
Speaker 1: State Memphis, and you can't start anywhere other than with
Speaker 1: John Moran. You know, I thought there was a deliberate
Speaker 1: strategy from Golden State to guard John single coverage. And
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of different, you know, ideologies with how
Speaker 1: to stop a star. And you've probably you know, you've
Speaker 1: heard the the cliches surrounding them, like make everybody else
Speaker 1: beat us or don't let anybody else beat us, Right,
Speaker 1: those are the two kind of strategies to go about,
Speaker 1: and for the most part, in the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: you've seen a lot more with uh, the make everybody
Speaker 1: else beat us type of strategy. You see so much
Speaker 1: more attention devoted to stars. We've talked about it a
Speaker 1: lot on this show. Teams have just gotten so sophisticated
Speaker 1: with how to rotate on the back end, and then
Speaker 1: the losing of the traditional big man and supplementing that
Speaker 1: with another wing athlete, and then the complete disappearance of
Speaker 1: the traditional power forward. You know, the Paul Millsap type
Speaker 1: of player and bringing in range e athletic basically wings
Speaker 1: that are playing the four. For the more part, the
Speaker 1: overall foot speed of these teams is so much higher
Speaker 1: than it used to be that you have the ability
Speaker 1: to cover ground on the back end, and usually you
Speaker 1: can get away with double teaming, but there's an advantage
Speaker 1: to going with single coverage, and it usually throws the
Speaker 1: other guys at a rhythm, right like the advantage is.
Speaker 1: You know, Desmond Bain had another really bad game. Desmond
Speaker 1: Baine is now in both games in this series been
Speaker 1: pretty much useless offensively. We talked a lot about how
Speaker 1: Desmond Bain is not a traditional shot creator in the
Speaker 1: sense that you don't just throw him the ball against
Speaker 1: good defenses and he creates shots for himself. He's not
Speaker 1: that kind of wing. What he is is he's an
Speaker 1: advantage attacker. He's kind of like Clay Thompson. You can
Speaker 1: get him with the defender closing out at him from
Speaker 1: a distance, He's going to make plays. He'll either knock
Speaker 1: down a ton of threes or he'll pump bake and
Speaker 1: get to the rim and things like that. But what
Speaker 1: if you stay home, What if you stay on Jaw
Speaker 1: single coverage and you consistently have a defender tied up
Speaker 1: with pain, he doesn't get those opportunities, and it affects
Speaker 1: him everywhere on the floor, and it affects the psychology
Speaker 1: of the total team. There's a reason why, even though
Speaker 1: Jaw had such an amazing night, this game wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: as much of a convincing win as you would have
Speaker 1: hoped for. You know, if you if you tell me
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get forty seven, eight and eight at a Jaw,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for a fifteen twenty point win, right, But no,
Speaker 1: it was close. And but here's the flip side. The
Speaker 1: advantage of going with single coverage on Jaws you throw
Speaker 1: everybody else out of rhythm. It helps you with defensive
Speaker 1: rebounding because you have guys assigned to bodies you know
Speaker 1: you have. There's a bunch of like obvious pluses that
Speaker 1: come from that. But the downside is this, John Morant
Speaker 1: is a top ten basketball player on planet Earth. And
Speaker 1: so if you leave him in single coverage against great
Speaker 1: defensive players, excuse me, against you know, average to average
Speaker 1: to good defensive players, he's gonna have a ton of success,
Speaker 1: and that's where the Gary Payton Jr. Injury ended up
Speaker 1: being a massive swing factor in this game. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get to that minute. I have a gigantic problem with
Speaker 1: what Dylan Brooks did tonight. We'll get to that in
Speaker 1: a second. But without Dylan or without Gary Payton Jr.
Speaker 1: Out there, there was a lot of John Rant against
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, against Clay Thompson, against Jordan Pool, even was
Speaker 1: getting shots off against Andrew Wiggins at the end of
Speaker 1: the game. And that's because John Morant, like I said,
Speaker 1: is a top ten NBA player, and if you leave
Speaker 1: him on an island, there's a chance that he burns you.
Speaker 1: To to Golden States credit. With the strategy, they had
Speaker 1: a very good chance to win the game. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that in just a minute. But Jah was magnificent
Speaker 1: down the stretch, made every single play at the end
Speaker 1: of the game, despite Golden State having multiple punches and
Speaker 1: taking multiple leads at the end. You know, I made
Speaker 1: a lot of comps during this regular season between Jah
Speaker 1: in two thousand sixty Wade, because we know so much
Speaker 1: about playoff basketball from all of our years watching it, right,
Speaker 1: and we know that matchups can swing a series. It's
Speaker 1: no different than you know, Roy Hibbert and with the Pacers,
Speaker 1: massive problems for Lebron and d Way because he was
Speaker 1: camped under the basket, and the way that that dragged
Speaker 1: those series is out. You saw Dwight Howard and two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine carry a team to the finals because
Speaker 1: nobody could guard him, and even a great team like
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Cavaliers was just you know, he ate zyderusgowskis
Speaker 1: alive and it changed the series. Well. Back in two
Speaker 1: thousand six, something similar happened the Miami Heat team, and
Speaker 1: they were good, but they weren't your typical championship team
Speaker 1: that just absolutely destroys everybody all season long and then
Speaker 1: runs through everybody in the postseason. No, they were, you know,
Speaker 1: just a standard playoff team that had that one a
Speaker 1: tough series against the Detroit Pistons to get out of
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. They fall down to zero to the
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks, and then something happens, a singular matchup factor
Speaker 1: that completely changed the series. And yes, officiating played depart
Speaker 1: in it, but nobody could guard Dwayne Wade, nobody could
Speaker 1: keep him in front, nobody could keep him out of
Speaker 1: the lane, and then when he got into the lane,
Speaker 1: he was such a freaky athlete vertically and with the
Speaker 1: speed linearly that he would just kind of fall down
Speaker 1: half the time. And there was contact, the same type
Speaker 1: of contact that you see on a lot of playoff plays.
Speaker 1: But when you contact a player that's flying into the
Speaker 1: lane way faster than normal humans do, it's tough to
Speaker 1: interpret as an official. And so what happened. Dwyane Wade
Speaker 1: got a ship ton of calls, shot a million free throws.
Speaker 1: Then when they didn't fail him or they didn't have
Speaker 1: enough bodies in the paint, he was scoring at will
Speaker 1: and the paint and a young player who was not
Speaker 1: the best player in the league. Very similar trajectory in
Speaker 1: terms of where his league standing is to a job Morant.
Speaker 1: Nobody could guard him, and he won an NBA championship. Now,
Speaker 1: is Memphis gonna win an NBA Championship? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: There's I mean, Steph Clay and Jordan Pool went six
Speaker 1: nine from three tonight and had nine turnovers. It was
Speaker 1: a disastrous game from Golden State and they damn near
Speaker 1: took a two oh lead on your home floor. If
Speaker 1: I'm a Golden State Warriors fan tonight, I'm feeling fantastic
Speaker 1: about where we are in this series, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to you know, I have to credit Jaw and eight
Speaker 1: Flash that same thing that I'm talking about. No one
Speaker 1: could keep him in the front in front at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. All they did was traditional five
Speaker 1: out spacing, so they had, you know, guys in each corner,
Speaker 1: guys on each wing, and they basically had John Morant
Speaker 1: at the top of the key spread floor. Just go
Speaker 1: to work and it's really simple, and it worked tonight.
Speaker 1: Now the question will be how sustainable is that. You
Speaker 1: guys know how how I feel about, you know, repetitiveness
Speaker 1: on offense and the playoffs. You can't just get away
Speaker 1: with running a high isolation time and time and time
Speaker 1: and time and time again. Even if even if Jaws
Speaker 1: having success individually, and even if you have some of
Speaker 1: the spacing stuff figured out, the individual defenders, the guys
Speaker 1: like Steph, the guys like Jordan Pool, the guys like Wiggins,
Speaker 1: will get so accustomed to seeing the moves that John
Speaker 1: Morant is using that over the course of the series
Speaker 1: they'll get more and more stops. And then again, if
Speaker 1: you're in single coverage in that situation and your other
Speaker 1: players are out of rhythm, That's where the problems can come.
Speaker 1: You know. My philosophy is is when you let a
Speaker 1: guy in single coverage like that all night long and
Speaker 1: you let him get going, a great time to start
Speaker 1: suddenly double teaming him is at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: The reason why is nobody's in a rhythm. Nobody has
Speaker 1: any confidence if that ball ends up in Desmond Bains,
Speaker 1: Like Desmond Bain got a couple of wide open looks
Speaker 1: in that fourth quarter that he missed wide open. Desmond
Speaker 1: Bain was I think he led the league in three
Speaker 1: point percentage this year. So Desmon being fantastic shooter, missed
Speaker 1: some open shots at the end. That's where you gotta
Speaker 1: go in a in a in a setting like this
Speaker 1: is Jaw's got all the numbers. You got everybody out
Speaker 1: of rhythm. Late game is when you start throwing extra
Speaker 1: bodies at him and try to turn him into a passer.
Speaker 1: Make guys make shots, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: from that standpoint, like you tip your cap to Jaw,
Speaker 1: he beat you because of your defensive strategy. He's gotta
Speaker 1: beat you four times. You did your job you went
Speaker 1: on the road as the team that doesn't have home
Speaker 1: courted manage. You stole a game in Golden State, and
Speaker 1: as a result, now you have home court advantage. Now
Speaker 1: you go home to Golden State, you win a couple
Speaker 1: of games on your home floor. You have a three
Speaker 1: one lead. Now you can afford to go into Memphis
Speaker 1: and drop a game five if you have to, just
Speaker 1: like that Golden State again, you want to have a
Speaker 1: two oh lead. I get if you're a Warriors fan,
Speaker 1: you could be a little bit disappointed in the way
Speaker 1: things went. But at the end of the day, you
Speaker 1: stole a game in Memphis. That's all you had to do.
Speaker 1: I want to move on to this Dylan Brooks ejection
Speaker 1: for a second. You know, the Draymond Green suspect. The
Speaker 1: Draymond Green ejection to me was a textbook like I
Speaker 1: thought he deserved to get ejected. We talked about on
Speaker 1: the show. It wasn't about the jersey poll, It's the combination.
Speaker 1: He loaded up slap Brandon Clark right in the face.
Speaker 1: I thought he did it deliberately as well, and then
Speaker 1: he grabbed the jersey and pulled him down. I thought
Speaker 1: that deserved an ejection. But had they kept Draymond in
Speaker 1: the Green, Draymond Green in the game, wouldn't have had
Speaker 1: any problem with it, wouldn't have been an issue. They
Speaker 1: just happened to make the ejection and I thought that
Speaker 1: that was a defense. Will call this one. There was
Speaker 1: no defense for it. If they would have left him
Speaker 1: in the game, it would have been a travesty. It
Speaker 1: was an outrageously dirty play. I actually had a huge
Speaker 1: problem with shock and Charles Barkley going into the halftime
Speaker 1: show and talking about how he was going for the ball. No,
Speaker 1: he wasn't, like it was disguised like that. He swung
Speaker 1: in a trajectory where his hand was kind of in
Speaker 1: the same direction of the ball, but he wasn't even
Speaker 1: close to the ball, and he intentionally followed through on
Speaker 1: his head. Gary Payton had a clear advantage going to
Speaker 1: the rim, and Dylan Brooks made a deliberate attempt to
Speaker 1: knock him out of the air, which is frighteningly dangerous.
Speaker 1: He knew what he was doing, he knew it had
Speaker 1: a risk of injury, and it did. It hurt him.
Speaker 1: There's a chance, like we don't know until we get
Speaker 1: the m R. I there's a chance he's got a
Speaker 1: seriously messed up elbow. And in addition to that, Gary
Speaker 1: Payton Jr. Is Not under contract next year. It's a
Speaker 1: you know, this is professional basketball. They don't Golden State
Speaker 1: doesn't owe him anything. If he has an elbow injury
Speaker 1: that keeps him out for six months or something like
Speaker 1: that and ends up being an issue, he'll have to
Speaker 1: find another spot in the league potentially. That's the type
Speaker 1: of risk. That's why you don't do stuff like that,
Speaker 1: because you're messing with people's livelihoods at that point. Like Dylan,
Speaker 1: imagine if you were in a contract year man, and
Speaker 1: someone did that to your shooting elbow, Like that's the
Speaker 1: kind of that's the kind of situation that was. And
Speaker 1: you know, there's this stupid dynamic, you know. And Steve
Speaker 1: Kerr saw this coming a mile away. Steve Kerr was
Speaker 1: talking about how he expected this to be the most
Speaker 1: physical game of the series. Clay Thompson talked about it
Speaker 1: as well. Draymond Green talked about it on his show.
Speaker 1: Everyone predicted physicality. There is a massive difference between physicality
Speaker 1: and playing dirty, you know, And I hate, I hate
Speaker 1: when I'm talking with older basketball players guys that have
Speaker 1: been around for a long time. When when guys start
Speaker 1: driving to the basket and they're like, oh, you gotta
Speaker 1: knock him on his ask, you gotta, you gotta, you
Speaker 1: gotta knock him out of the air. You gotta do
Speaker 1: something to to stop him from getting into the lane.
Speaker 1: And whenever I'd hear guys talk like that, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: get out of here, man, that's dirty. Playing physical is
Speaker 1: about holding your ground. Playing physical is about being the
Speaker 1: aggressor on offense, and being the aggressor in box outs,
Speaker 1: and being the aggressor when you set screens, and being
Speaker 1: the aggressor when you're driving to the basket. It's not
Speaker 1: about clabbering dudes out of mid air deliberately and knocking
Speaker 1: them in a position where they're precariously falling down on
Speaker 1: their elbow. That's not basketball. That's dirty. There's no place
Speaker 1: for that, And it was deliberate. I had a huge
Speaker 1: problem with it. If it were up to me, i'd
Speaker 1: suspend him. He wouldn't be allowed to play until Gary
Speaker 1: Payton Jr. Came back. But you know how that goes,
Speaker 1: it's probably not gonna happen. My guesses we'll see him
Speaker 1: in game three. But I just, you know, it offends
Speaker 1: me personally as someone who's been around the game for
Speaker 1: a while when guys do stuff like that, because I
Speaker 1: just think it has no place in the game. And again, Dylan,
Speaker 1: imagine you're in his predicament. Imagine it's a contract year
Speaker 1: and you're literally going up to the basket and like
Speaker 1: you could if you don't want to give up the basket,
Speaker 1: grab him, hold him, do anything other than what you did.
Speaker 1: That was incredibly dangerous. Had a huge problem with it.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Warriors continuity for a
Speaker 1: second because I thought this was super interesting. So you
Speaker 1: have this disastrous game, right uh, Steph Clay and Jordan Pool,
Speaker 1: I'll go six nine from three. You have this game
Speaker 1: where John Moraic goes for forty seven, eight and eight,
Speaker 1: makes all these huge plays, but you're right there at
Speaker 1: the end, and you had chances to win that game.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I through that entire fourth
Speaker 1: quarter I thought Golden State was going to win, And
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, it's a testament to the type
Speaker 1: of continuity and and confidence that this group has in
Speaker 1: all of these settings. You know, there's this culture in
Speaker 1: the NBA now player movement. Right, guys are teaming up
Speaker 1: elsewhere in the league, and I have zero problem with that.
Speaker 1: For the record, you guys have heard my take on
Speaker 1: that before. We won't have to get into it tonight. However,
Speaker 1: you know, it puts certain teams at a disadvantage because
Speaker 1: it's an accumulation of talent. You know, if you run
Speaker 1: a team organically, try to build through the draft, try
Speaker 1: to build through free agency, have guys stay in your
Speaker 1: jersey for their entire careers. You know, it's hard to
Speaker 1: keep up with Kawhi Leonard calling up Paul George and
Speaker 1: going to a team that already was in the playoffs
Speaker 1: and then suddenly they become one of the most talented
Speaker 1: teams in the league. It's hard to keep up with
Speaker 1: Clutch Sports is engine and the way that they can
Speaker 1: pull Lebron James and Anthony Davis into the biggest brand
Speaker 1: in the NBA and win a title in their first
Speaker 1: year together. It's hard to keep up with Kyrie and
Speaker 1: k D and all these things. Right, that's the the
Speaker 1: challenges you're trying to keep up from a talent perspective.
Speaker 1: But to Golden States credit, they did well enough in
Speaker 1: the draft. I don't love the James Wiseman pick, But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, overall, over the course
Speaker 1: of this era, they've done a great job drafting, and
Speaker 1: they have done savvy things, like when Kevin Dury wanted
Speaker 1: to leave, they brought back to Angelo Russell that they
Speaker 1: were able to flip into Andrew Wiggins, who's making pivotal
Speaker 1: plays for you in the playoffs right now. They did
Speaker 1: a lot of really really smart things. But most importantly,
Speaker 1: the core group Steve Kerr, Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, and
Speaker 1: Draymond Green has seen it all and done it all.
Speaker 1: They've been in all these fights. That's why I thought
Speaker 1: it was super interesting that all of them were prepared
Speaker 1: for a physical blood bath tonight in Memphis. They were
Speaker 1: ready for it because they've been there before. They know
Speaker 1: how to react to all of these things. I thought
Speaker 1: it was you know, we talked about, uh, we literally
Speaker 1: talked last night about how Doc Rivers was completely unwilling
Speaker 1: to use a lineup that he used in the first
Speaker 1: half that was damned successful, the one without any centers,
Speaker 1: and he just wouldn't use them the rest of the game,
Speaker 1: and I thought it cost them any chance of trying
Speaker 1: to upset Miami. Well, you know what Steve Kerr did.
Speaker 1: He learned from Game one. There was a lineup that
Speaker 1: he used at the end of the third quarter and
Speaker 1: to start the fourth quarter that had no Draymond and
Speaker 1: had no Kivan Looney. They went with I think it
Speaker 1: was Clay and Jordan Pool, and then they had um
Speaker 1: Jonathan cominga otto porter and then they had Andrew Wiggins
Speaker 1: as the third guy or Gary Payton Jr. In the
Speaker 1: third as the third guy in that group right in
Speaker 1: that front court. Obviously, Gary Payton Jr's hurt, so tonight
Speaker 1: they went with Damien Lee. But I was really imprest
Speaker 1: that that group that Kerr had to use by virtue
Speaker 1: of an ejection in Game one that had success. He
Speaker 1: learned from it, he paid attention to it. He started
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter tonight with that same group with Damian
Speaker 1: Lee in for for Gary Payton Jr. And they were
Speaker 1: plus three and three minutes, and so when the game
Speaker 1: was tied in the fourth quarter, you you were able
Speaker 1: to bring step back later in the fourth quarter with
Speaker 1: the lead. And that's a huge advantage. That's experience from Kurr.
Speaker 1: That's a lack of stubbornness from Kurr. That's a willingness
Speaker 1: to acknowledge information that's readily available in front of you
Speaker 1: and to adopt that information and use it in the game.
Speaker 1: I thought there were a bunch of really really smart
Speaker 1: plays throughout that game. Steph. Late in the in the
Speaker 1: third quarter, Uh, they went on. The Warriors went on
Speaker 1: a thirteen to three run to close a ten point
Speaker 1: lead to a tie in the last five minutes of
Speaker 1: the third quarter, and it was all just Steph relentlessly
Speaker 1: attacking the rim. Auto Porter and Andrew Wiggins have both
Speaker 1: been absolute monsters on the offensive glass of late. They
Speaker 1: had three offensive rebounds in that sequence to end the
Speaker 1: third quarter, two of which lad to uh points for
Speaker 1: the Warriors. They get we talked about that center list
Speaker 1: line up to start the fourth, then you know, go Uh.
Speaker 1: Memphis goes on a little bit running, a little running
Speaker 1: gets a lead, but they come out of a time
Speaker 1: out and it's like a beautiful out of bounds play
Speaker 1: that gets an awesome backdoor cut for Clay Thompson there
Speaker 1: the next possession down like Andrew Wiggins back cut, Draymond
Speaker 1: Green hits him for a layup. Draymond h Andrew Wiggins
Speaker 1: had that beautiful spinning float in the lane. They just
Speaker 1: look like a team that is so comfortable and confident
Speaker 1: executing and all of these situations, and and it's just
Speaker 1: such an advantage to have in these situations. Like you, again,
Speaker 1: if you're a Warriors fan, you have to feel fantastic
Speaker 1: about where you are in this series, to have played
Speaker 1: easily your worst game and to have had a chance
Speaker 1: to win on the road in Memphis, and I just
Speaker 1: think it's again, there's nothing. There is a reflex in
Speaker 1: basketball that comes from continuity. When you play with the
Speaker 1: same group of guys time and time again for years
Speaker 1: and years and years, the whole game becomes like a
Speaker 1: reflex for you. It's you don't even have to think about.
Speaker 1: It just happens naturally. And this team has a natural
Speaker 1: winning reflex. Everything that they do and they have done
Speaker 1: over the last ten years, has built in this set
Speaker 1: of habits to where no matter the prigament predicament, whether
Speaker 1: it's super physical, whether they're trailing, whether they have the lead,
Speaker 1: whether it's the fourth quarter, whether it's you know, in
Speaker 1: a playoff series or in the regular season, they just
Speaker 1: reflexively know what to do. To get the job done
Speaker 1: and to win the game. And I think it's a
Speaker 1: credit to the way that they've built that team, and
Speaker 1: it's and it's it's good for the league that they've
Speaker 1: had success in this specific way because it's an example
Speaker 1: that you don't have to do it the super team route.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do it by by teaming up
Speaker 1: superstars on your team. If you build organically through the
Speaker 1: draft and you have an organization that's well run enough
Speaker 1: that people want to stay, and you get that continuity
Speaker 1: year over year over year over year, and you draft
Speaker 1: well enough that as your stars age, you have more
Speaker 1: talent supplementing them, Guys like Jordan Poole. I thought Jonathan
Speaker 1: Cominga made a lot of really big plays tonight. When
Speaker 1: you have that set up, it makes you have that
Speaker 1: lot lasting continuity, and it gives you the the the
Speaker 1: the the fall back set of reflexes and habits to
Speaker 1: win important basketball games. And it's what makes it's what
Speaker 1: makes Golden State such an interesting team. It's why they
Speaker 1: have such a big and and and you know, voracious
Speaker 1: fan base, and it's what makes them so much fun
Speaker 1: to watch. It's why they branded basketball is so new,
Speaker 1: so ne unique. But before we move on to the
Speaker 1: Celtics and the Bucks, I wanted to go over a
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Speaker 1: on to the Bucks and the Celtics. So I thought
Speaker 1: it was really interesting after Game one Boston was a
Speaker 1: five point favorite in Vegas, and then they were a
Speaker 1: five point favorite again tonight, and it's just the latest example. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Vegas is not as clean and cut and dry of
Speaker 1: a prediction because they're factoring in public money and a
Speaker 1: lot of those scenarios. However, I thought it was interesting
Speaker 1: that they didn't overreact to Game one. And you know,
Speaker 1: I said that Boston would win the series in five
Speaker 1: and after Game one, I told you guys that I
Speaker 1: thought would probably be longer because I didn't think Boston
Speaker 1: would lose one of their first two games, and so
Speaker 1: things are gonna stretch longer. It's gonna be a longer series,
Speaker 1: and Milwaukee does have a chance to win, which before
Speaker 1: the series, I thought they had a very small chance
Speaker 1: to win. So Milwaukee has shown me a lot to
Speaker 1: demonstrate that this is gonna be a lot more competitive
Speaker 1: than even I thought it would be. However, we are
Speaker 1: Boston picked for this show. Our pick of Boston was
Speaker 1: not based on you know, like anti Janice, you know,
Speaker 1: sentiment or any sort of hopefulness. It was reacting to
Speaker 1: information that was right in front of their eyes. Like, guys,
Speaker 1: I covered the Lakers this year and last year. The
Speaker 1: vast majority of my followers are Lakers fans. Do you
Speaker 1: think I stand to gain anything by suddenly becoming a
Speaker 1: Celtics fan, Like, of course not. All I'm doing is
Speaker 1: responding to information that's taking place right in front of me.
Speaker 1: I we had a season's worth of data that showed
Speaker 1: that Boston was the best defense in the league. I
Speaker 1: had half of the season's worth of data that showed
Speaker 1: that Boston was by far the best defense in the
Speaker 1: league we had during that span. They were also the
Speaker 1: best offense in the league. They took a team in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn that was the preseason title favorite that yes, didn't
Speaker 1: farewell in the regular season, but when Kadi and Kyrie
Speaker 1: were on the floor, they were a very good team,
Speaker 1: and Boston just handled them, just completely handled them. They
Speaker 1: took one of the best basketball players in NBA history
Speaker 1: at the top of his game and made him struggle
Speaker 1: worse than I have ever seen him struggle. That's the
Speaker 1: type of stuff we were seeing from Boston. That's why
Speaker 1: I picked them, not because I'm a Celtics fan, not
Speaker 1: because I dislike you, honest not because I have some
Speaker 1: skin in the game. I'm simply reacting to information that
Speaker 1: happens right in front of me. And that's why Boston
Speaker 1: was a minus two hundred favorite before the series. What
Speaker 1: happened in Game one, Boston defended extremely well in the
Speaker 1: half court. Boston on certain offensive possessions looked good, particularly
Speaker 1: when they were driving and kicking, getting feet in the
Speaker 1: paint and hitting shooters in the pocket for catch and
Speaker 1: shoot opportunities. They really struggled when they went off kilter
Speaker 1: and tried to force things when they started shooting off
Speaker 1: the dribble. We talked about how non Tatum Celtics were
Speaker 1: over eleven on pull up jump shots. They had a
Speaker 1: lot of really bad turnovers, and then when they turned
Speaker 1: the ball over, Milwaukee scored every single time, literally every
Speaker 1: steel that Milwaukee had they went down and scored. They
Speaker 1: scored two point three three points per steel opportunity against Boston.
Speaker 1: That was where they lost the game. They lost it
Speaker 1: in transition. Now, there were a lot of other things there.
Speaker 1: You know, Boston's offense does have some limitations. They had
Speaker 1: had stretches this year where they've struggled, So that's to
Speaker 1: be expected at certain stretches, but that's all been factored
Speaker 1: in when we're making these predictions. I thought it was
Speaker 1: really interesting what Email Udoka said before the game same
Speaker 1: Van Gundy was talking about it in the opening minutes.
Speaker 1: Email Judoka's major takeaways from game one where no early
Speaker 1: clock contested threes, which is exactly what we talked about.
Speaker 1: How many times you'd see Jalen Brown come down the floor,
Speaker 1: get a ball screen and just pull up a three
Speaker 1: with seventeen on the shot clock when he's open, but
Speaker 1: it's not really that open, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that kind of stuff. And then
Speaker 1: Email Yudoka said he wanted multiple drive in kicks, which
Speaker 1: is something we talked about a ton on this show.
Speaker 1: The concept of further compromising the defense with each progressive action,
Speaker 1: turning a good shot into a great shot, and you
Speaker 1: do that by perpetually applying rim pressure and kicking out
Speaker 1: the shooters. You know, in this game, I talked a
Speaker 1: lot about how in the first game, part of the
Speaker 1: reason why Boston struggled so much from two was the
Speaker 1: types of shots they were taking and the fact that
Speaker 1: nothing was really all that high quality of a shot
Speaker 1: well in this game after only attempting I think they
Speaker 1: I think they were ten for twenty four from two
Speaker 1: point range in uh in game one, they attempted thirty
Speaker 1: seven two's tonight and they were eighteen for thirty seven,
Speaker 1: And a big part of that was early in the
Speaker 1: game they generated quality three point shots, and with those
Speaker 1: quality three point shots, they loosened up the defense. They
Speaker 1: went twenty for forty three from three tonight. That's an
Speaker 1: awesome percentage. That's what Milwaukee's defense gives up. I keep
Speaker 1: seeing things. I keep seeing it from stand Van Gundy too.
Speaker 1: Like Boston has to find a way to score, two
Speaker 1: is Boston has to find a way to score at
Speaker 1: the rim. They're not going to. Milwaukee plays two centers
Speaker 1: sometimes three. Two of them are premier shot blockers, and
Speaker 1: no matter what, one of them is directly under the basket.
Speaker 1: So be my guest if you want to try to
Speaker 1: score over that all night long, the most realistic way
Speaker 1: to try to score is to loosen things up from
Speaker 1: the perimeter first and then take advantage of opportunities as
Speaker 1: they come around the basket. But email you don't get
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, we work hard at this show to
Speaker 1: try to to to to watch the film and to
Speaker 1: be you know, aware of what's actually happening on the court.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was cool that he may. Judoka
Speaker 1: mentioned some things that we specifically talked about on this show.
Speaker 1: Moving on to Jalen Brown, we talked. Carson asked me,
Speaker 1: you know, before the game, he said, who's the guy
Speaker 1: that's most important for Boston to be able to figure
Speaker 1: this out? And I said it was Jalen Brown. And
Speaker 1: it's because of the fact that, you know, not only
Speaker 1: did he play poorly in game one, but it's not
Speaker 1: even like he's a role player. This guy is a star.
Speaker 1: He's a two way star. Is he Paul George? No,
Speaker 1: But he's you know, a tear right below that. He's
Speaker 1: a guy that on any given night can create shots
Speaker 1: for himself at all three levels of the floor. He
Speaker 1: did a lot of scoring from the mid range tonight.
Speaker 1: We did. We showed you guys those shot charts last night,
Speaker 1: and I talked about how Boston needed more variety in
Speaker 1: their shot selection. Well, Jalen Brown made five. Jalen Brown
Speaker 1: and now Horford, between the two of them, I think
Speaker 1: made four or five mid range shots just in the
Speaker 1: first quarter after they made zero mid range shots in
Speaker 1: Game one. Adding that variety makes you tougher to guard,
Speaker 1: and you started to see that they were all open
Speaker 1: to The Al Horford shot was wide open. The Jalen
Speaker 1: Brown step backs like the defender is overplaying the paint,
Speaker 1: so when he does that hard pound dribble into that
Speaker 1: step back between his legs, he's getting tons of separation.
Speaker 1: Those are open shots, and as a result, Jalen had
Speaker 1: a monster night. He had thirty points, five rebounds, and
Speaker 1: six assists. He was eleven for eighteen from the field,
Speaker 1: six for ten from three. He was demonstrating all of
Speaker 1: that shot making. He was definitively either the best or
Speaker 1: second best player on the floor tonight after being like
Speaker 1: the ten or eleventh best player in Game one. That's
Speaker 1: that influx of talent that makes the big difference in
Speaker 1: the outcome of the game. You know, Boston's defense is
Speaker 1: something we've talked a ton about on this show, but
Speaker 1: there are a couple of specific impacts that make them
Speaker 1: so interesting. And the biggest thing is, you know, for
Speaker 1: those of you guys who've been following me over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, the big reason why I talked
Speaker 1: so much about switching defenses is because switching defenses stagnate
Speaker 1: NBA offenses. You can't run actions, you can't. You can't
Speaker 1: just you know, run a staggered screen for a shooter
Speaker 1: coming off. It's not gonna gain an advantage because whoever
Speaker 1: is guarding the second screen is just gonna grab the
Speaker 1: shooter as he's coming out. Or if you're running a
Speaker 1: flex action, or if you're running complicated pick and rolls
Speaker 1: or whatever it is you're doing, a good switching defense
Speaker 1: will simply be a one step ahead of you, and
Speaker 1: they're just gonna be somebody waiting for you when you're
Speaker 1: coming off the screen and nothing is really open, and
Speaker 1: it turns you into an isolation team. And I thought
Speaker 1: it was really interesting that the Bucks made thirty four
Speaker 1: field goals tonight and they only had sixteen assists, so
Speaker 1: literally eighteen of their thirty four made field goals were unassisted,
Speaker 1: meaning even when they did score, for the most part,
Speaker 1: it was in isolation sar scenarios, and it stagnates you.
Speaker 1: It makes it harder for you to score. Milwaukee only
Speaker 1: at eighties six points in this game. Again, the important,
Speaker 1: the important impact of of stagnation is it throws everybody
Speaker 1: out of rhythm. You know, it's hard for everybody to
Speaker 1: feel confident and feel in a flow if the ball
Speaker 1: is not really popping around, and the ball doesn't really
Speaker 1: pop around against switching, Defen says, because nobody's really open.
Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of staying home, and they're trying to bait
Speaker 1: you into playing io ball, into playing your turn my turnball.
Speaker 1: Boston has been really effective at doing that all year,
Speaker 1: and they did it really really well tonight. You know,
Speaker 1: a huge part of what made that work was discovering
Speaker 1: that they could single cover nice on most of the possessions.
Speaker 1: So in game one, Grant Williams really struggled, and a
Speaker 1: lot of that had to do with the fact that
Speaker 1: um uh, Boston wasn't hitting him enough when he was
Speaker 1: open at the three point line. There were a bunch
Speaker 1: of missed opportunities there, obviously at a great offensive night tonight.
Speaker 1: But in game one only Al Horford demonstrated that he
Speaker 1: could guard Janice on an island. But in Game two,
Speaker 1: immediately in the first quarter, Grant Williams came out and
Speaker 1: clearly demonstrated that he was not going to be ran over.
Speaker 1: That he was going to hold his ground and make
Speaker 1: your honest shoot over the top. That put them in
Speaker 1: a situation where now because they had two guys that
Speaker 1: they could cover your honest in single coverage with, it
Speaker 1: made things a lot more difficult for Janice. Now. He
Speaker 1: struggled mightily in the first half. In the second half
Speaker 1: he started to get going just by relentlessly trying to
Speaker 1: pressure guys like Grant and al Horford. They did a
Speaker 1: lot better job of clearing the side and putting him
Speaker 1: in the post and making it so that he had
Speaker 1: a little bit more space to operate. But for the
Speaker 1: most part they had some success. You're honest. We talked
Speaker 1: about I am relenting. Now, he's the best basketball player
Speaker 1: in the world. I will admit it. So like obviously
Speaker 1: he's going to eventually break through that wall and have
Speaker 1: some success, and he did in the second half. But
Speaker 1: it's a very very interesting, you know, tool to have
Speaker 1: in your toolbox for Boston to know that for the
Speaker 1: most part, Grant Williams and al Horford can do a
Speaker 1: decent job in single coverage on j Honese. And the
Speaker 1: last note, on Boston's offense, they took much better care
Speaker 1: of the basketball. We talked about how Milwaukee scored on
Speaker 1: just about every single steal that they had. Well, Milwaukee
Speaker 1: only had six fast breakpoints in this game after having
Speaker 1: twenty eight fast break points in Game one. Taking away
Speaker 1: that supplementary offense for Milwaukee trapped them in the half
Speaker 1: court all night long, and their Boston's half court defense
Speaker 1: was at silint in Game one. It was even better
Speaker 1: tonight in Game two, and it was a big part
Speaker 1: of why they were able to get so many stops.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about Janice for a little bit.
Speaker 1: So you know, Janice, he struggled, uh, really badly in
Speaker 1: that first half, had some success in that second half.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of talk about the way
Speaker 1: that he's officiated. My issue with it is like, I
Speaker 1: don't have any problem with Janice being physically aggressive. I
Speaker 1: don't have any problem with Lebron being physically aggressive. I
Speaker 1: don't have any problem with Joel and Bid being physically aggressive.
Speaker 1: My thing is leeway. If you were going to give
Speaker 1: leeway for Johannice to drop his shoulder and try to
Speaker 1: run people over, then you have to give leeway to
Speaker 1: the defensive player back to be physical. In return, you
Speaker 1: can't be by the book with the defensive player on
Speaker 1: your honest and then give Joannice all sorts of leeway
Speaker 1: with off arms and dropping his shoulder and player control
Speaker 1: fouls and all that stuff, because there's by the book
Speaker 1: stuff on offense too that says that if a player
Speaker 1: has position, you're not allowed to run in mode that
Speaker 1: you know, you're not allowed to drop your shoulder, you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to extend an off arm. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of things that the off ensive player is not
Speaker 1: allowed to do. You know, I've I've talked about this
Speaker 1: a lot on the show. I have no issue with
Speaker 1: the fact that Lebron doesn't get many foul calls because
Speaker 1: I think Lebron initiates a ton of contact. So my
Speaker 1: thing is like, let Lebron play Lebron ball, let the
Speaker 1: defender be physical back. And I feel the same way
Speaker 1: with your honest. There was a few plays there in
Speaker 1: that second half where it started to kind of feel
Speaker 1: like the refs didn't know what to do with your honest,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of the predicament he puts you in.
Speaker 1: It's a credit to Jannice. Again, this is not It's
Speaker 1: just like with the Joel and beat thing. This is
Speaker 1: not an insult to Jannice. This is an issue with
Speaker 1: officiating and the way that they are inconsistent. There was
Speaker 1: a play in the second half where Jannas barreled down
Speaker 1: the lane and ran over Robert Williams, just completely ran
Speaker 1: them over and got a layup. It was called an
Speaker 1: and one. Then on the very next trip down, Jason
Speaker 1: Tatum is posting up on Grayson Allen and just as
Speaker 1: a basic like backdown dribble and Grayson Allen flops and
Speaker 1: they call an offensive foul. You can't. You can't give
Speaker 1: leeway to Janice if you're not gonna give it to
Speaker 1: other players on the court. That's just that's just my
Speaker 1: little two sense. I know I complain about officiating all
Speaker 1: the time. It's just, you know, I'm a big believer
Speaker 1: and letting guys play basketball and rest being less involved.
Speaker 1: And I know it's really tough with the honest, but
Speaker 1: there needs to be Again, all I'm saying is I
Speaker 1: don't want to see Janice living at the free throw
Speaker 1: line when he's running people over. Make him play basketball
Speaker 1: the same way that every other player in the league
Speaker 1: is supposed to play. You know, the one of the
Speaker 1: interesting things about having Grant Williams and Al Horford in
Speaker 1: single coverage is it forces your honest to be more
Speaker 1: of a shotmaker. And tonight he had three in transition
Speaker 1: in the second half. He had a little mid range
Speaker 1: jump shot that he made in the second half, but
Speaker 1: for the most part, they made him shoot over the
Speaker 1: top and he struggled in that department, and that's his
Speaker 1: one specific weakness. You know, Janice has demonstrated that he's
Speaker 1: come miles as a playmaker. He obviously is the best
Speaker 1: paint scorer that we have in the league. He's, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players that we have in
Speaker 1: the league. His one hole is like half court shot making.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that's gonna be tested over
Speaker 1: the course of the series is, you know, Boston's gonna
Speaker 1: try to bait him into taking those shots. And in
Speaker 1: the first half he did. He took a lot of
Speaker 1: jump shots. In the second half, he was much more
Speaker 1: deliberate about, like, Hey, if you're gonna put Grant Williams
Speaker 1: and Al Horford on me, I'm gonna try to run
Speaker 1: you over. Even if I don't get calls, even if
Speaker 1: I missed shots, I'm gonna try to wear you down,
Speaker 1: and that kind of goes to that concept that we
Speaker 1: were talking about, you know, after Game one, where Janice
Speaker 1: forced a lot of things in traffic, and I talked
Speaker 1: about the cumulative effect of rim pressure if you just
Speaker 1: keep doing that over the course of a seven game series,
Speaker 1: as the game's progress, as we get later into the series,
Speaker 1: it gets harder and harder to build that wall, It
Speaker 1: gets harder and harder to hold your ground, and there
Speaker 1: is probably going to be a monster Jannice game later
Speaker 1: in this series, or Boston struggles to build that wall
Speaker 1: and he gets like forty six points with like you know,
Speaker 1: you know, twelve or thirteen dunks. That's just kind of
Speaker 1: the natural order of things, you know, Boston. We talked
Speaker 1: a lot about how after Game one Boston played scared,
Speaker 1: that they were deferential to Janice, that they seemed to
Speaker 1: be kind of like trapped in his aura. I thought
Speaker 1: from the opening tip tonight they threw that right out
Speaker 1: the window and they were like, no, screw that, we
Speaker 1: don't care that. He's honest, We're gonna play basketball the
Speaker 1: way that we want to play. That's the way they
Speaker 1: have to be. If you play scared, you're dead on arrival.
Speaker 1: Last note before we move on, Milwaukee didn't play a
Speaker 1: little bit better in the second half. This is that
Speaker 1: fake comeback concept. I never like getting too you know,
Speaker 1: wrapped up in second half comebacks when you fall into
Speaker 1: a massive deficit, because almost always, if you're a team
Speaker 1: like Boston, especially a team like Boston that has some
Speaker 1: guys that are banged up, you know, like Marcus Smart
Speaker 1: obviously missed this game. They have three days off until Saturday,
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown's dealing with a hamstring thing. There's a tendency
Speaker 1: to be like, we're up, let's just escape, Like, let's
Speaker 1: just get out of here with the win and move on,
Speaker 1: rather than going for the jugular. It's obviously you'd prefer
Speaker 1: to see teams stay aggressive down the stretch, but it's
Speaker 1: a lot easier said than done. I thought that was
Speaker 1: a big part of why Milwaukee did sort of kind
Speaker 1: of sort of threatened. But here's the three reality. Even
Speaker 1: in that second half for Milwaukee played better, they only
Speaker 1: scored forty six points. So for all of that talk
Speaker 1: about you know, Milwaukee getting quality looks at the rim,
Speaker 1: and and and and you know, Boston struggling to get
Speaker 1: shots at the rim. Well, guess what, Milwaukee still only
Speaker 1: scored forty six points, so it's not like they had
Speaker 1: some massive offensive revelation in that second half. The only
Speaker 1: real the only real takeaway I got in terms of
Speaker 1: like something to move forward with Janice, there were two things. One,
Speaker 1: when they used Joannice as a screener, they were Boston
Speaker 1: was just hugging up on the screener, which instead of
Speaker 1: playing pick and roll coverages like having a guy in
Speaker 1: drop coverage or showing on the screen or trapping or
Speaker 1: anything like that, they were just hugging onto Janice, which
Speaker 1: effectively makes it like a double screen. And so the
Speaker 1: guy who was guarding the ball handler kept getting caught
Speaker 1: on that screen and Milwaukee was getting into the pain
Speaker 1: off of that. Boston's gonna have to figure out some
Speaker 1: adjustments there. And then one last thing. One of the
Speaker 1: ways that Janice started to have success against Al Horford
Speaker 1: and Grant Williams was clearing the side instead of having
Speaker 1: an attack in the middle of the floor where Janice
Speaker 1: was struggling with understanding where help was coming from. They
Speaker 1: spaced everybody out past the three point line, like five
Speaker 1: ft out past the three point line, put Janie on
Speaker 1: that left block, and they were just like, here's the
Speaker 1: entire floor for you. Puts the Boston help defenders in
Speaker 1: a weird position where they they don't know if they're
Speaker 1: supposed to help because their defend their offensive players so
Speaker 1: far away, or if they're supposed to stay home. And
Speaker 1: Johanna had some success there, so that's definitely something that
Speaker 1: they're gonna want to go to in Game three to
Speaker 1: try to get you honest going. But hey, this is
Speaker 1: the bounce back game from Boston. Just like I said,
Speaker 1: don't take victory laps after game one, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: take a victory lap after Game two. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: Boston is a better team. Yes, I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: win the series. I was wrong in the sense that
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a walkover. Milwaukee is gonna have
Speaker 1: some they're gonna win probably at least one of these
Speaker 1: two games here in Milwaukee next week or on Saturday,
Speaker 1: so a Saturday Monday. So this isn't over by any stretch.
Speaker 1: Even if you're a Boston fan. There's no way to
Speaker 1: no no time to relax. However, what was encouraging tonight
Speaker 1: in terms of my prediction was I started to see
Speaker 1: some of the things materialized that I saw on tape
Speaker 1: over the course of the last six months, which, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, your team tells you who they are over
Speaker 1: the big sample size, not over the small sample size,
Speaker 1: and over a big sample size. Boston has demonstrated to
Speaker 1: us that they were the best team in the league.
Speaker 1: Here tonight they demonstrated it again. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: demonstrate it three more times in order to get out
Speaker 1: of this round, but we're gonna move on by It's
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Speaker 1: The game is a personal favorite of mine. I would
Speaker 1: He said, we're gonna take some of the most interesting
Speaker 1: sound bites from around the league and we'll play them,
Speaker 1: will get your reactions. So we're gonna start with a
Speaker 1: pretty unfortunate one, and it's related to the Dylan Brooks
Speaker 1: flagrant foul on Gary Payton the second that ended up
Speaker 1: earning him an objection. It has Sentimen. Sentimen announced that
Speaker 1: GP two actually fractured his left elbow from that. Just
Speaker 1: a pretty brutal play and fall all around, like honestly
Speaker 1: borderline clothes line to the head. So Steve Kerr talked
Speaker 1: about that, gave his thoughts on the play from Brooks.
Speaker 1: So let's hear that now. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was intentional, but it was dirty. And U you know,
Speaker 1: playoff basketball, it's gone. It's supposed to be physical. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna compete, everybody's gonna fight for everything. But there's
Speaker 1: a code in this league to code that players follow
Speaker 1: um where you never put a guy's season slash career
Speaker 1: in Jeffrey like taking somebody out in mid air and
Speaker 1: clubbing him across the head, ultimately fracturing Verry's healthful. And
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's been toiling the last six
Speaker 1: years trying to make it in this a leading UM
Speaker 1: finally found a home just you know, playing his butt
Speaker 1: off this year UM in the playoffs, you know this
Speaker 1: yet being the time of his length, and guy comes
Speaker 1: in lasting across the head into there. He broke the
Speaker 1: code on Brooks broke the code. That's how I'm Steve.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's a lot to unpack their ker has that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was intentional, but it was dirty.
Speaker 1: Quote he talks about Brooks breaking the code, talks about
Speaker 1: just obviously how devastating he is for g P two individually,
Speaker 1: given his journey. So given all that, what's your initial
Speaker 1: reaction to that from Kerr and thoughts on the play overall? Man,
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr is a great basketball coach, but he's an
Speaker 1: exceptional human being overall as well. And I'm really glad
Speaker 1: that he was able to eloquently lay that out because
Speaker 1: I tried to say something similar earlier in the show,
Speaker 1: and I think it just carries so much more impact
Speaker 1: coming from him, and it was so important for him
Speaker 1: to say that. Look, guys, like I've talked about Gary
Speaker 1: Payton a lot on this show, like in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, Like, you know, him and I had a
Speaker 1: similar goal and we followed a similar path. We both
Speaker 1: came up through junior college and then went to four
Speaker 1: year schools. He was better than me, And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I have I met peace with knowing that I
Speaker 1: didn't make it because I wasn't good enough. I don't
Speaker 1: lose sleep because I feel like I got screwed over
Speaker 1: or because I felt like some things didn't go my way.
Speaker 1: That we're supposed to go my way. You know, I
Speaker 1: met peace with that. Gary Payton. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: rooting for him ever since him and I crossed paths
Speaker 1: in our college basketball careers, and and I've been rooting
Speaker 1: for him over the course of the the last few years.
Speaker 1: I wanted the Lakers to sign him a bunch of times,
Speaker 1: and you know, like Steve said, like that's that's a
Speaker 1: tough journey, especially when you go that route, like there's
Speaker 1: a it's a completely different route than the route that
Speaker 1: uh um to the route that like a Lebron James
Speaker 1: goes through coming up as like a high school superstar
Speaker 1: and getting recruited, like the grind of trying to make
Speaker 1: it in professional basketball. Like you know, I I know
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who are currently going through that
Speaker 1: grind overseas that have goals to try to make it
Speaker 1: back over here. I've got a buddy from two on,
Speaker 1: a guy named Bryce Cotton that I played with growing up,
Speaker 1: who briefly was in the league and now he's in
Speaker 1: Australia fighting there. Like there is like a kind of
Speaker 1: like a brotherhood that exists amongst all of these basketball
Speaker 1: players that are trying on this journey and it is
Speaker 1: so incredibly difficult. And when you get that, when you
Speaker 1: get that call and you get that opportunity, it means
Speaker 1: so much. And like again, like I told you guys
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, and I and I mean it
Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart, like you don't play
Speaker 1: with that, you don't play with that. And most importantly,
Speaker 1: like to Steve Kerr's original point about there being a code,
Speaker 1: I'd argue that code extends down the line like in
Speaker 1: your local pickup game up at the y m c
Speaker 1: A or up at the l A fitness or wherever
Speaker 1: it is that you play. If a guy's going up
Speaker 1: for a layup and he's mid in mid air and
Speaker 1: you don't have a legitimate chance to block the shot,
Speaker 1: you let him go. You don't, you don't, Or if
Speaker 1: you foul him, you foul him in a way that's
Speaker 1: not dangerous. You reckless swinging or tackling or undercutting of
Speaker 1: a player that is flying towards the basket is completely
Speaker 1: out of line at every level of the game. And
Speaker 1: Dylan knows that, and he willingly made a conscious decision
Speaker 1: at that point to risk Gary Payton's basketball career, and
Speaker 1: he severely injured him, and he probably won't play again
Speaker 1: in this playoff run. And quite frankly, I have no
Speaker 1: interest in seeing Dylan Brooks play again in this playoff run.
Speaker 1: So you touched on it a bit there. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: the first reaction has to be empathy for Gary Payton,
Speaker 1: the second and what this means for him. But that
Speaker 1: last comment there, what do you think is an appropriate
Speaker 1: punishment for Dylan Brooks beyond obviously just the injection it's
Speaker 1: hard because, you know, again to Steve Kerr's original point
Speaker 1: of intentionality, I don't think Dylan Brooks intentionally tried to
Speaker 1: hurt Gary Payton, but he did intentionally make a decision
Speaker 1: that he knew carried a high risk of hurting Gary
Speaker 1: Payton Jr. And so from that it's almost like a
Speaker 1: reckless endanger type of deal. So, I mean, here's the thing,
Speaker 1: I think you should be suspended. The length of the
Speaker 1: suspension is super complicated because if you suspend him for
Speaker 1: the remainder of the playoffs, Memphis will freak out and
Speaker 1: probably have a right too, because that's a pretty extensive
Speaker 1: punishment for a play that, again, intentionally, he wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to hurt him, right, but it was the risk involved.
Speaker 1: I would I would suspend him for the rest of
Speaker 1: the series, though I think that's fair. He's gonna miss
Speaker 1: somewhere between what three and five games. That's a reasonable
Speaker 1: suspension in the sense that it's not so egregiously long
Speaker 1: that it's you know, borderline like reactionary. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, it's like, hey, if you're gonna if you're
Speaker 1: gonna try to beat the Warriors about Gary Payton, congrats,
Speaker 1: you're gonna beat him Withoutdylan Brooks now because he's the
Speaker 1: one that took him out. That's that's the way I
Speaker 1: would do it if I was in charge. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I mean that is significant. It's pretty rare, I would say,
Speaker 1: to see a multiple game suspension in the NBA for
Speaker 1: one individual play. But this is play grant as it gets,
Speaker 1: I would say. So. Another obvious important component of this
Speaker 1: is that Gary Payton the second although his journey has
Speaker 1: been so improbable and whatnot, and he hasn't always been
Speaker 1: the biggest name, he has become a very important member
Speaker 1: of this Warrior's rotation. He started both Games one, and
Speaker 1: to play twenty three minutes in Game one at times
Speaker 1: look like the best counter maybe defensively, I would say, actually, certainly,
Speaker 1: uh for John Morant on the perimeter for this Warrior's team.
Speaker 1: So how does this impact them in terms of their
Speaker 1: effort to win this series, their rotation, and just the
Speaker 1: overall basketball product we're gonna see from the Warriors. Well,
Speaker 1: that last thing you said is the most important thing.
Speaker 1: Like he is specifically in this matchup was vitally important
Speaker 1: for Golden State. So I mean that they're like the
Speaker 1: more the more we stare at this situation, it just
Speaker 1: is even more egregious with the with the passing second.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, here's the deal. A lot of Gary
Speaker 1: Payton's minutes we're getting taken out of Jordan Pools minutes.
Speaker 1: And my guess is they won't dip into other parts
Speaker 1: of the rotation too often. I think it'll just kind
Speaker 1: of his minutes will just be dispersed among the guards
Speaker 1: taking on a bigger workload. But you did see in
Speaker 1: that fourth quarter they went with Damian Leo little a
Speaker 1: little bit. I like Damien Lee. He's a solid wing.
Speaker 1: He's actually been in and out of the rotation for
Speaker 1: Golden State a lot over the of course the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. He's a big athletic to guard. He's
Speaker 1: got a good amount of strength to him, a little
Speaker 1: bit more like heft, like physical hefton, meaning like ability
Speaker 1: to hold his ground in physical mismatches, which may actually
Speaker 1: end up being an advantage in this specific series without
Speaker 1: with how strong Memphis is. But my guesses you'll see
Speaker 1: little doses of Damian Lee here and there, but for
Speaker 1: the most part, his minutes will be dispersed among the
Speaker 1: other guards on the team. Alright, Well, obviously again devastating news,
Speaker 1: not just because I mean, it's terrible to see anybody
Speaker 1: go down like that, and it's really unfortunate to have
Speaker 1: a lead to an injury. I do particularly love watching
Speaker 1: GP you play and it is an unbelievable stories just
Speaker 1: ruck on that front. All right, we have another clip
Speaker 1: from a member of the Warriors team not on this
Speaker 1: series though, of course, we have The Draymond Green Show
Speaker 1: here at the volume. Everybody should go listen. It is
Speaker 1: I think some of the most engaging sports content out there.
Speaker 1: He gave his predictions for Maths Sons and had an
Speaker 1: interesting take. So let's take a listen any stretch of
Speaker 1: the imagination. And so I'm gonna admit, this is a
Speaker 1: tough one for me to pick. It's a pick um.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a coin flip. Both teams are
Speaker 1: really good. Do I have to pick one? If I
Speaker 1: have to pick one, you have to pick one. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pick They're underdog. I'm gonna go with the MAVs.
Speaker 1: So Jason Draymond even said before the series when he
Speaker 1: made that pick, he thought the Songs would win Game one,
Speaker 1: so he is not off path with his prediction there.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that very very bold take
Speaker 1: from Draymond. You know, it's not bold to pick Luca
Speaker 1: to win a playoff series. You know, I absolutely think
Speaker 1: Dallas has a chance, but I think they're an underdog
Speaker 1: for a reason. Phoenix has a ridiculous amount of talent.
Speaker 1: We've talked about it extensively on this show. The thing
Speaker 1: that makes it really really hard is like, you know,
Speaker 1: I look at specific things with that are sustainable, right,
Speaker 1: and generally speaking, I'm gonna look at shot quality. Now.
Speaker 1: What I noticed after two games of the Nets Celtics
Speaker 1: series was Brooklyn could not generate good shots. And as
Speaker 1: soon as I saw that, I was like, okay, I've
Speaker 1: seen almost a hundred minutes of evidence that Brooklyn can't
Speaker 1: get good shots. This series is over. They can't win.
Speaker 1: That's all she wrote. It's over, right. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: always gonna wait at least two games before I make
Speaker 1: that type of call. But didn't love the shot quality
Speaker 1: they got in Game one. Seemed like Phoenix was getting
Speaker 1: easier shots consistently every time down the floor. There's some
Speaker 1: adjustment things that they could do. I thought Phoenix did
Speaker 1: a similar thing that Golden State did too. Phoenix did
Speaker 1: a similar thing that Golden State did to John Ran tonight.
Speaker 1: They consistently let they tried to turn Luca into score,
Speaker 1: stayed home on all of the off ball reads for
Speaker 1: the most part, and especially as the game progressed, and
Speaker 1: I think, what what did Luca finished with? Like forty
Speaker 1: five points or something like that, but it was, you know,
Speaker 1: never really threatened, right, So obviously that's the strategy that
Speaker 1: they're going with. So they're gonna have to find some
Speaker 1: way to have Luca be more effective so that they
Speaker 1: have to start sending help because that's when the ball
Speaker 1: starts moving around, and that's when Dallas gets especially dangerous. Again,
Speaker 1: Dallas has a chance to win, but Phoenix is demonstrated
Speaker 1: throughout the entire season that they're the best team if
Speaker 1: you pay attention to personnel. They have the most talent
Speaker 1: top to bottom of any roster in the NBA. So
Speaker 1: the challenges set in front of him, and then half
Speaker 1: home court is obviously an issue as well. Phoenix's home
Speaker 1: crowd is is a very his crowd, and and you know,
Speaker 1: not that you don't trust Luca in those environments, but
Speaker 1: definitely a bold pick from Mr Draymond and if I
Speaker 1: if I felt like messing with him and his pick
Speaker 1: was wrong, I tell me needs to be fired afterwards.
Speaker 1: But I'm just yeah, it is bold. And obviously the
Speaker 1: Luca factor is so important there because in terms of
Speaker 1: playoff production up to this point, he is historically unrivaled.
Speaker 1: I mean it's over thirty three and basically nine and
Speaker 1: nine on almost fifty nine percentury shooting across the three
Speaker 1: postseasons we've seen, and just the ability to impose his
Speaker 1: will as the score and playmaker is versatility. Possession after
Speaker 1: possession is wild, and obviously it's what makes him so great.
Speaker 1: So I actually made a TikTok for us today at
Speaker 1: the volume of the top five guys left in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: who I would most want for the rest of this run.
Speaker 1: I had Luca to behind only Janice. Where do you
Speaker 1: think he would be for you in that conversation? Oh man,
Speaker 1: that is a good question. Carson Steph had a rough
Speaker 1: nighty and tonight he's having trouble taking care of the basketball.
Speaker 1: He's just definitely now some of this is the foot right.
Speaker 1: So like again, I I I want to wait to
Speaker 1: make like a final call on steps decline until next
Speaker 1: year in training camp. But you can tell he's struggling
Speaker 1: to get separation to generate his own shot compared to
Speaker 1: when he was in his prime. So whereas like Luca is,
Speaker 1: you know, very clearly at the peak of his powers,
Speaker 1: I think John, this is a clear number one. You know,
Speaker 1: Tatum obviously complicates that list a little bit. I might
Speaker 1: even Potatum a little bit ahead of Steff, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, you know, I think I trust stepped more
Speaker 1: in a big game, but in terms of like day
Speaker 1: and day out the rest of the season, I think
Speaker 1: I'd take Tatum. Uh. Here's the thing with Luca, man,
Speaker 1: Like he just keeps coming, Like awful, awful start against
Speaker 1: Phoenix downten Oh had a couple of sloppy turnovers through
Speaker 1: the ball, Like I had a floater that he missed
Speaker 1: short there down ten zero, looks like everything's bad, but
Speaker 1: he just kept coming and next thing you know, it's
Speaker 1: like here's a run from Dallas and he you know,
Speaker 1: I tweeted this out and it's I've texted this to
Speaker 1: you guys actually, and it's the truth from my perspective. Like,
Speaker 1: to me, it reminds me of watching two thousand eighteen
Speaker 1: Lebron in terms of just command of the half court
Speaker 1: offense in the sense that like he's initiating everything. The
Speaker 1: defense knows exactly what he's gonna do. They know exactly
Speaker 1: the like the spots on the floor he's trying to
Speaker 1: get to. They know exactly what passing reads he's looking at.
Speaker 1: You know exactly what his scoring reeds are, and they
Speaker 1: just can't do anything with it. You know. Obviously it
Speaker 1: lacks that athletic pop that Lebron had and some of
Speaker 1: the defensive pop, but you know, like it's he's majestic
Speaker 1: to watch in the half court. He's becoming one of
Speaker 1: my favorite players to watch, and I would agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think he's probably the second best player left in
Speaker 1: this playoff run. Yeah, it is a remarkable skill set
Speaker 1: and I just think he is on the trajector to
Speaker 1: be greatest offensive players we have ever seen. He kind
Speaker 1: of has everything that you could look for in that respect.
Speaker 1: We've got one last clip here. You have been a
Speaker 1: huge believer in the Celtics and specifically their defense, calling
Speaker 1: it the best that you've seen. It was a really
Speaker 1: stellar bounce back game from them in Game two, big
Speaker 1: win obviously email Doka head coach touched on that improvement
Speaker 1: from game one to game two. Let's take a listen
Speaker 1: to what he had to say. See even and that
Speaker 1: level of physicality has been increased. Yeah, guarding the way
Speaker 1: we have been all year, and even in game one,
Speaker 1: we felt we were okay in the half court, but
Speaker 1: we're just sloppy and you know, turnovers trans transition that
Speaker 1: we gave up kind of helped them as far as that,
Speaker 1: so we knew we could be good again in the
Speaker 1: half court. It was more so good offense and take
Speaker 1: care of the ball, but offensively, I think us getting
Speaker 1: downhill attacking a little bit more. You know. The point
Speaker 1: is they have good rain protectors and they you know,
Speaker 1: crowd the paint, but it's not Will Chamberlain out there.
Speaker 1: As guys. We can get downhill and attack and and
Speaker 1: you know, we got guys that can finish and so
Speaker 1: uh still missed a few dump offs and robbed tonight, Uh,
Speaker 1: a few dump offs the al as well, but obviously
Speaker 1: much better getting downhill and attacking Lopez tonight. Jason, what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that? For me? Ma, you know,
Speaker 1: you me and the rest of the team here, we
Speaker 1: do a show that covers the NBA, and I think
Speaker 1: it's one of the best compliments that we can have
Speaker 1: when we see NBA coaches and personnel end up saying
Speaker 1: the same things that we say after we've done our homework.
Speaker 1: You know, those are all very specific things, Carson, that
Speaker 1: you and I talked about extensively over the course the
Speaker 1: last two days. Their half court defense was excellent in
Speaker 1: the in the in offense, their decision making and taking
Speaker 1: care of the basketball lead them to transition opportunities where
Speaker 1: Milwaukee killed them. They you know, we talked about how
Speaker 1: they struggled with how to attack the paint, and one
Speaker 1: of the things I thought they did a much better
Speaker 1: job tonight of was being selective about when to drive
Speaker 1: driving when they I mean when they tried to finish.
Speaker 1: Obviously you have to consistently drive, but they did a
Speaker 1: much better job of selectively decide when to try to
Speaker 1: challenge Janice or Drew or Joannice or Brooke at the
Speaker 1: rim versus kicking out two shooters and things along those lines.
Speaker 1: We did this whole thing with shot charts, and they
Speaker 1: came out in the first quarter attacking from the mid range.
Speaker 1: So like just like everything that you and I talked about,
Speaker 1: Boston went out and executed and it led to a
Speaker 1: sixty five to forty win. And you know, there in
Speaker 1: the first half, I should say, it's the point being like,
Speaker 1: that's that's exactly, That's exactly what what made me so
Speaker 1: confident about this team from the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1: They're the best defensive team that I've seen in this era.
Speaker 1: They switch everything and they stagnate. You Milwaukee had assists
Speaker 1: on fewer than half of their made field goals. It
Speaker 1: turned through Holiday and Janice into isolation players all night long,
Speaker 1: and both of them struggled in that role. Although Janice
Speaker 1: got going a little bit there in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: Everything went exactly as I expected in this particular game. Now,
Speaker 1: the most encouraging thing that I saw from that clip,
Speaker 1: and you there was another quote. I can't remember it
Speaker 1: exactly off top of my head, but Jayson Tatum said
Speaker 1: that they were really upset with the way they played
Speaker 1: after Game one and they knew that they were capable
Speaker 1: of playing way better in game two. And to me,
Speaker 1: that rings to the confidence argument and the discussion we
Speaker 1: had about Janice and the aura that he has and
Speaker 1: the way that he can inflict almost like a fear
Speaker 1: on the other team, and I thought it was really
Speaker 1: telling that Boston was like, no, that, like, we know
Speaker 1: we're better than we played. We're gonna be fine, Like,
Speaker 1: let's go out there and kick some masks, and that's
Speaker 1: what they did. So again, I I'm excited to dive
Speaker 1: into the film and see what I think is translatable forward,
Speaker 1: because I thought Milwaukee did figure some stuff out offensively
Speaker 1: in that second half, although they still only had forty
Speaker 1: six points in that second half. But again, uh, just
Speaker 1: this is a team that's very confident. They're well coached,
Speaker 1: they have all the pieces they need to win the title.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why they're favored in this series. I
Speaker 1: expected them to bounce back tonight. I bet some money
Speaker 1: on it. So I'm with I'm happy with my Celtics
Speaker 1: pick at this point. But I still where I was
Speaker 1: wrong is I thought this is gonna be a quick series.
Speaker 1: I thought Boston would get them out of here in five. Uh.
Speaker 1: Them dropping game one automatically brings up the predicament of
Speaker 1: a Game six in Boston and the fact that they're
Speaker 1: they're not gonna go win two games in Milwaukee, right,
Speaker 1: So like, you know, it's just one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's gonna be a long series, and obviously longer
Speaker 1: series favor the bigger, stronger athletes. That gives a massive
Speaker 1: advantage to Janice as things go along. So I've I'm
Speaker 1: still on the Celtics, but I'm at this point I
Speaker 1: view Milwaukee as a significant threat to win the series
Speaker 1: in a way that I did not before the series.
Speaker 1: So obviously we hear that clip from Udoka, and I
Speaker 1: think he was regarded as one of the most impressive
Speaker 1: coaches in the league this year. Do you think Boston
Speaker 1: has a significant coaching advantage and do you think that's
Speaker 1: something that really matters and can impact this series? That's tough.
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Budenholzer is a very good coach as well.
Speaker 1: Mea Yudoka's knew. There are a lot of things that
Speaker 1: I like about him. I think he has a unique
Speaker 1: ability to challenge his players and in a way that
Speaker 1: they relate to. You know, if you get a David
Speaker 1: Blatt in a room and him screaming at guy's a
Speaker 1: being like you're never boxing out and you're never doing this,
Speaker 1: and you're never doing that. They just kind of like
Speaker 1: shrug at him and they're like, get this old dude
Speaker 1: out of here. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: Kind of deal. But hem, Yodoka, guy who's been in
Speaker 1: the trenches, you know, in the n b A. I
Speaker 1: think that especially recently, you know, like he may he's
Speaker 1: not an exceptionally old person. So like, I think that
Speaker 1: that resonates with those guys in a in a real way.
Speaker 1: And you know, talk to any Celtics fan, what would
Speaker 1: they tell you was the biggest weakness of the Celtics
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. They tell you toughness. Now,
Speaker 1: I thought it was more extensive than that. I thought
Speaker 1: they were missing primary offensive creation and a lot of that.
Speaker 1: You know, all the reps they were able to give
Speaker 1: Jayson Tatum and Jalen Brown over the last couple of
Speaker 1: years were a huge part of them kind of blossoming
Speaker 1: the way they have at the end of the season.
Speaker 1: But toughness absolutely was a factor, and they're suddenly one
Speaker 1: of the toughest teams in the league. And I think that.
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination about Horford coming back in
Speaker 1: here and instilling some of that and then also uh
Speaker 1: Email Yudoka. But the question of him having a coaching
Speaker 1: advantage or where does he stack up with other coaches
Speaker 1: in the league. It's hard for me to realistically make
Speaker 1: a claim on that front this early and Emay's coaching career.
Speaker 1: I'd want to wait a couple of years. Alright, Well,
Speaker 1: we've got one last quote for you here, Jason, as
Speaker 1: we play, That's what he said. We don't have a
Speaker 1: sound on this one, but we have the words, and
Speaker 1: they are pretty glorious. This is from massaiou Jerry on
Speaker 1: the Lakers interest in Nick Nurse, which obviously we have
Speaker 1: heard about. Quote, I dream like they dream. I want Messy,
Speaker 1: I want Ronaldo, I want Kobe Bryant so they can
Speaker 1: keep dreaming. I dream too, Jason, what's your reaction to that.
Speaker 1: I'm just glad that that I want. I want teams
Speaker 1: around the league to make jokes at the Lakers expense.
Speaker 1: They're literally, dude. It's it's insane. Their run like a
Speaker 1: mom and pop shop. It's the craziest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: Now we have these Phil Jackson rumors coming out. The
Speaker 1: Nick Nurse thing never made any sense from the beginning,
Speaker 1: because even if they wanted him, they would have had
Speaker 1: to have made a trade for him. And the last
Speaker 1: time we saw coachings raid in the NBA, believe was
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers and there was a first round pick involved in.
Speaker 1: The Lakers have so few assets that are tradeable that
Speaker 1: it would have made no sense to give up a
Speaker 1: draft pick for a coach, especially for a team like
Speaker 1: this that has Lebron James and Anthony Davis on it.
Speaker 1: Not that a coach isn't important, because it is, but
Speaker 1: a coach is definitely less important to a Lebron James
Speaker 1: team than it is to other teams around the league.
Speaker 1: So that was just like pie in the sky, like
Speaker 1: insane stuff. I don't know if that was coming from
Speaker 1: Clutch or or what the deal was. But now we
Speaker 1: have this Phil Jackson news, a guy that's probably watched
Speaker 1: like four NBA games total in the last eight years,
Speaker 1: and now he's gonna be making advisements about which coach
Speaker 1: that they should hire. I just you know, and I
Speaker 1: have Laker fans coming up to me too and saying
Speaker 1: things like, you know, like, uh, you know, like Phil
Speaker 1: Jackson is one of the greatest coaches of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah he is. That's great, but he's retired. Like in
Speaker 1: the game is very different now than from what it
Speaker 1: was the way it was when he was coaching. And
Speaker 1: do I think he could make recommendations as it pertains
Speaker 1: to like like the personality of a head coach. Sure,
Speaker 1: but the Lakers have an x AS and ose problem,
Speaker 1: they have an offensive organization problem. Those are things that
Speaker 1: need to like, what really needs to happen is, you know,
Speaker 1: Genie Buss needs to find a qualified and competent president
Speaker 1: of basketball operations and then let him make every single
Speaker 1: basketball decision. That's literally, it's literally that simple. I've had
Speaker 1: Laker fans be like, who who should Genie consult that guy?
Speaker 1: Find a guy, a smart, currently employed, currently ambitious, currently
Speaker 1: hard working basketball executive, plug him in as your president
Speaker 1: of basketball operations, or I don't know, make you can
Speaker 1: make Rob Bolinka your president of basketball operations if you
Speaker 1: want to, and put him underneath him. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you need your basketball decisions coming
Speaker 1: from a basketball guy. And Phil Jackson right now is
Speaker 1: more of a smoke payote guy than he is a
Speaker 1: basketball guy. And so I just don't understand the point. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Jason, I think what you're really
Speaker 1: under selling is feels ability to light incense in the
Speaker 1: locker room and give every player a personalized book recommendation
Speaker 1: so that they can learn about themselves, because that's what
Speaker 1: he brings the table, and at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. I think. Yeah, and Lebron
Speaker 1: would have another stack of books that he'd read the
Speaker 1: first page of on camera and then not finished. Alright, guys,
Speaker 1: that is all we have for tonight. I sincerely appreciate
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