Speaker 1: That people higher up know that people are so vain
Speaker 1: and a lot of people and this is not going
Speaker 1: to be a popular statement.
Speaker 2: So I'm sorry, guys. But all the people that didn't want.
Speaker 1: To take the vaccine shot, they're like, I know, you
Speaker 1: guys just want to be skinny.
Speaker 3: You might, you might, you don't care abou getting You
Speaker 3: run the resk of getting sick, but you won't do
Speaker 3: you won't run the rest of gaining way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I just feel like there's always like some little
Speaker 1: hidden something in these drugs that they're like making fads
Speaker 1: and then I'm skeptical.
Speaker 3: So I'm cool. Hi, welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices.
Speaker 3: I'm Mela and I'm Erikita, and we're here in Los Angeles, California,
Speaker 3: recording to you Live on a Wednesday. Woo who is it? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: drink that coffee a little quicker, drink my body cut,
Speaker 3: drink your booty cut. Good morning, you guys. It's morning
Speaker 3: in LA and Erica hasn't drinken enough coffee yet, so
Speaker 3: she's still warming up.
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 3: She might malfunction.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna malfunction.
Speaker 3: Don't put that on me. I'm just kidding you guys.
Speaker 3: It is birthing bad Birthing.
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Speaker 1: And we announced our first date, which is of course
Speaker 1: in our fucking city, Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: And I just realized it's October twenty first, so it's
Speaker 3: nine days before Halloween, and you know we have some
Speaker 3: Halloween queen ass bitches. More importantly, it's four days before
Speaker 3: my birthday. That more importantly, so just come celebrate with you, girl,
Speaker 3: come to Erica's birthday probb to my birthday party. I'm
Speaker 3: going to dress up. You should dress up to.
Speaker 1: The theme is Confessions of a Good Mom, So get
Speaker 1: ready to confess your secrets.
Speaker 3: If you haven't been to a good Mom show, you're
Speaker 3: in for a fucking treat. We are some very high
Speaker 3: production ass bitches, so the show and the party will
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Speaker 3: Did you drink you need coffee?
Speaker 2: Did you drink No?
Speaker 3: I don't drink coffee. That's a lie. Don't do me good.
Speaker 3: Then I really don't drink coffee. I take like one
Speaker 3: sip of yours. Do you want some? We have one set. Ah,
Speaker 3: that's all I need. Anyway, my love, how are you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm great. I am in the process of
Speaker 1: taking my braids out. Guys, So you are a woman
Speaker 1: that has braids that you know that it is a process.
Speaker 1: So what is happening under this hat is a whole thing.
Speaker 1: If you're on YouTube. I wasn't gonna take my hat
Speaker 1: off just to like normalize myself by normalize this. I
Speaker 1: want to be aspirational today and I'm not going to
Speaker 1: embarrass myself on YouTube today. So under here there's something,
Speaker 1: But here there is just braids. But you can see
Speaker 1: I cut them because they're really long.
Speaker 3: Do you get like, are you more? I was thinking
Speaker 3: about this because your braids were half I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: she's going for it. Because there is a long, heavy
Speaker 3: period where we were getting like full hairstyles on the
Speaker 3: show on the episode because we don't have time, and
Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, Like we were really didn't give
Speaker 3: a fuck. And also like, now, because it's been five
Speaker 3: years in do you feel sometimes like you have second
Speaker 3: like that. I don't know what the word is, not
Speaker 3: secondhand embarrassment. I know that's not it, but like, do
Speaker 3: you do you now feel more conscious about things that
Speaker 3: you've said or like that that you do now, Like
Speaker 3: whend you get your hair braided on camera? Now, even
Speaker 3: though you can just look it up on our YouTube,
Speaker 3: it's not a secret.
Speaker 2: Would I get my hair braided? It would be harder.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If I don't, I don't think. I don't have embarrassment
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: No, No, not really?
Speaker 1: Fine, fuck it, fine, you guys get if you're on YouTube,
Speaker 1: you see it.
Speaker 3: I'm not embarrassed. It's like look beautiful, like songing the Hedgehog.
Speaker 3: It's like party on the front. Braids on the bottom
Speaker 3: might be a look, guys, I don't know, you might
Speaker 3: be bringing something back, maybe like if I do like
Speaker 3: a like you had like a side you guys, if
Speaker 3: you haven't subscribed, here are YouTube. Now's the time Erica
Speaker 3: is bringing a braid a braid hawk. No, it's like a.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I do with Iri is like
Speaker 1: because it takes a long time. We take her braids out,
Speaker 1: I do the top and then I do no, I'll
Speaker 1: do two puffs up here.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then I'll let her.
Speaker 1: Go to camp for like three days because I need
Speaker 1: a break. And then I'll finish the rest. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. My man is coming if I'm out
Speaker 1: of town today, and he is going to get the
Speaker 1: real real because this is what's happening here.
Speaker 2: And he's gonna sit there and help me take the
Speaker 2: shit out.
Speaker 3: Because if he doesn't, then he doesn't love me. That's
Speaker 3: definitely a boyfriend requirement. Must help take out braids, children
Speaker 3: and wife.
Speaker 1: Well know, so though, I think that answers your question.
Speaker 1: I don't have secondhand embarrassment.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful or beautiful. I'm just a normal gal. It's
Speaker 3: just a Norman gown taking my hair braids. So my
Speaker 3: braids for five days?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm great? Yeah, I'm good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like your blues. This is the blue skirt at
Speaker 2: the blue accent top and the blue bindy.
Speaker 3: Look. I wear the bracelet you got me. Oh cute.
Speaker 2: I gotta find mine.
Speaker 3: She got me a bracelet says ride or die because
Speaker 3: we're best friends, bff's forever we die.
Speaker 2: We're we gonna have a death pack. We talked about
Speaker 2: our pregnancy packed.
Speaker 3: What does a death pack to mean? I mean, that's
Speaker 3: that's the goal. Wrote, We're all gonna die together. She goes,
Speaker 3: I go too, Are you ready for Lando? We're all
Speaker 3: dying today. Oh my god. Yesterday you pulled off while
Speaker 3: Orlando was still looking out of the car, and this
Speaker 3: morning he's like, you and your partner, it's your real wife.
Speaker 3: You guys are trying to kill me. I was like, yep,
Speaker 3: you put me on the insurance and now we need you.
Speaker 3: We need you.
Speaker 2: We've been kahoots are Lendo?
Speaker 3: Didn't you know? It was always in my place? She's mine,
Speaker 3: use him for his audio skills, and then kill them.
Speaker 3: I still need to know. Fuck No, I felt really bad.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, like this poor man, you
Speaker 1: fucking tore his acl or whatever the fuck he toured
Speaker 1: over there playing basketball, which, by the way, I just
Speaker 1: want to say for the men listening, or for the
Speaker 1: wives or the girlfriends who have partners that play athletic
Speaker 1: sports in their.
Speaker 3: Old age and they're not they're older age, not in
Speaker 3: the NBA specifically, I just I can't you guys gotta
Speaker 3: just know your body. You gotta know your strengths.
Speaker 1: You gotta know where you're at, you gotta know how
Speaker 1: to land, you gotta know how that maybe like basketball
Speaker 1: isn't your sport anymore, and that you are not an
Speaker 1: NBA player and that you cannot be in your everyday
Speaker 1: life injured.
Speaker 3: You got to weigh out the liabilities.
Speaker 1: And if Orlando was limping for like three months, and
Speaker 1: I was very concerned, and I kept saying, do you
Speaker 1: need to go to the hospital the doctor, He was
Speaker 1: like no, no, And I was like, okay, well, I
Speaker 1: really hope that, like, you didn't actually tear your acl
Speaker 1: because you probably would need surgery.
Speaker 3: May he healed himself? He did. I just I was
Speaker 3: concerned though, because when I saw that swelling, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh no, I don't know. I'm convinced that And now
Speaker 3: he's milliking it so we can ask him for less things.
Speaker 1: And then and then I further did injury by almost
Speaker 1: running over him yesterday or not running over him. So
Speaker 1: I learned that lesson early though, because I when after
Speaker 1: I had IRI, I was trying to get back into
Speaker 1: sports for some reason, and so I joined inter mural
Speaker 1: soccer team and because I A little fun fact about
Speaker 1: me is that I played club soccer for ten years
Speaker 1: and I was pretty good, and I started smoking.
Speaker 3: Weed in the night. My all my soccer dreams went
Speaker 3: out the window.
Speaker 1: In high school, I said, fuck this, I'm not waking
Speaker 1: up a five am to work out before class and
Speaker 1: after class and go to fucking club soccer. No, anyway,
Speaker 1: I joined the intermural soccer team, and I think our
Speaker 1: first game I pulled my groin.
Speaker 3: I could just see your adult ass and effect with.
Speaker 1: My shint guards and shit. And then the second game
Speaker 1: I twisted my ankle and then I was like, I'm out.
Speaker 1: I'm done, Like I'm not gonna be injured. I can't
Speaker 1: take care of my newborn baby and have a pulled
Speaker 1: groin and a fucking sprained ankle. So that was my
Speaker 1: early lesson of like, no your limits. Know that you
Speaker 1: are a retired athlete and those dreams are done. Go
Speaker 1: to the gym, bitch, like regular folks go to the
Speaker 1: workout class.
Speaker 3: Just like trying to hit a split or you know,
Speaker 3: I mean I can still hit a split, the bitch
Speaker 3: can still have. You need to stretch first, you do,
Speaker 3: I do, like, don't get too like drunk and excited
Speaker 3: and try to drop it to your knees and come
Speaker 3: like you'll get rudely awakened. I mean, or like the
Speaker 3: next day it will like you'll be fine because you're
Speaker 3: like tequila it out and then the next month and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: Well, even like the trampoline in my backyard, like I
Speaker 1: think about maybe like ten years ago, maybe like maybe
Speaker 1: more than that, but I would have no fear about
Speaker 1: doing like just flip right right, even a backflip. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, fuck it, let's do it now. I think
Speaker 1: that my brain won't even allow me to go.
Speaker 3: Even when I'm jumping with Luna and you know, like
Speaker 3: sometimes if one person lands in the wrong time and
Speaker 3: it sucks up your back or your knees, I'm like, girl,
Speaker 3: I can't fuck around like that. No I can't. I
Speaker 3: can't because I won't be fucking around really be hurt,
Speaker 3: really like, I can't.
Speaker 1: I had one back injury and that was the worst
Speaker 1: shit ever. It's like, if your back is out, your
Speaker 1: whole shit is fuck, your whole.
Speaker 3: Life is out. So wow, we need to do more
Speaker 3: stretching realities of aging. I know, I was just looking
Speaker 3: at myself on the camera and I was like, They're
Speaker 3: like older, what the fuck I do? Because I am
Speaker 3: the fact.
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at our podcast from the beginning
Speaker 1: till now we've aged a little bit. What I mean,
Speaker 1: we're still look beautiful, but I see the differences in ways.
Speaker 1: The other day I was in the mirror and I
Speaker 1: was like, like, just this a little bit, just like
Speaker 1: right there, like just look at this, see that and
Speaker 1: look at that.
Speaker 3: Shut up, okay, just a little if you canna see
Speaker 3: how Erica is pulling the fucking corners of I.
Speaker 1: Know that like when I'm an old lady like this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have these laugh lines like this is just
Speaker 1: part of my face.
Speaker 3: But like if I just like lift it up and
Speaker 3: then like some la As shit, that's what everybody does
Speaker 3: in la just or you know when they take the pictures.
Speaker 3: Have you seen those, there's like a thread that you
Speaker 3: put in Oh yeah, I know somebody did it. Oh
Speaker 3: I don't even get it. How are you putting thread
Speaker 3: in your face?
Speaker 1: It's inside, I know, but it's like these like little
Speaker 1: sutures and then they like but it eventually it dissolves,
Speaker 1: dissolves and your face relaxes.
Speaker 3: But those first few days you look like the cat lady.
Speaker 3: But it's like a it's like a like you don't
Speaker 3: have it's like a local like you don't even have
Speaker 3: to be out to get the string. It's like a
Speaker 3: local anesthesia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is like it's the same suitors they use
Speaker 1: for like surgery, and they dissolve and you're they just
Speaker 1: dissolve and then apparently like they create collagen in your skin.
Speaker 3: But I'm cool. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Kim Kardashian lately and she like at
Speaker 1: first I'd be like, oh my god, she's so much money.
Speaker 1: She has the secrets to youth, she has all these
Speaker 1: lasers and all these facials. And now I'm thinking, like
Speaker 1: she might have overdone it, like she might have her
Speaker 1: skin might be like pissed because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: She's starting to look like.
Speaker 1: Her mom and she's still beautiful, beautiful woman, but she's aging.
Speaker 1: And you can't fight the aging. I kind of have
Speaker 1: to just like go with it.
Speaker 3: You're not supposed to. You're not supposed to. It's like
Speaker 3: going against God, Like you're not supposed to fight the
Speaker 3: things that just are. It's like a part of your
Speaker 3: experience in this lifetime. I feel, and I just feel
Speaker 3: like we're constantly and I'm all about like confidence and
Speaker 3: feeling the best that you can. But like aging is inevitable.
Speaker 3: Everybody has to do it. You age, hopefully and then
Speaker 3: you die. You hopefully you don't do it in the
Speaker 3: other directions. So it's like something to kind of celebrate,
Speaker 3: but we fear it, probably because we're living shallow ass,
Speaker 3: fucking la and America.
Speaker 1: I think if you start, I think what I know,
Speaker 1: because this is what's happening to me, and I gotta
Speaker 1: stop it. Once you start noticing your aging, you start
Speaker 1: obsessing about it. I think you start aging faster. So
Speaker 1: you have to just like leave it alone. Because Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been looking in the mirror and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: look can I have lines around my eyes?
Speaker 2: I never had those?
Speaker 3: People, Yeah, that's why I see these right here. Anyway,
Speaker 3: we're still anyway.
Speaker 1: Anyways, there's any MED spies that want to give us anything,
Speaker 1: any discounts.
Speaker 3: Hit me up at watch Erica.
Speaker 1: I'll post it. Maybe I can't gear Intael, I'll post it.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll talking about on the podcast. I don't want
Speaker 1: to put my business out there like that. I don't
Speaker 1: need people thinking, you know, they need to know think
Speaker 1: I'm just naturally beautiful.
Speaker 3: I want a vampire facial. You know what? Right now?
Speaker 3: This is this is the part of the show where
Speaker 3: we just do like shameless begs. Okay, attention everyone. If
Speaker 3: you know Ricky Lake, tell her to hit us Erica
Speaker 3: ericabauddu however, call also, I would like a vampire facial.
Speaker 1: If this bitch doesn't get a vampire facial. Do you
Speaker 1: know that I've been hearing about this vampire facial? I
Speaker 1: think this is like before we started the podcast, like
Speaker 1: why did I get.
Speaker 3: That free for birthday? I fucked up? That should have
Speaker 3: been the gift. I would like four to six sessions
Speaker 3: of a vampire facial. So, if you are a medical
Speaker 3: esthetician and you are listening to this and you're in
Speaker 3: the LA area, I'll come to you and I'll post it. Yes,
Speaker 3: i will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not invasive, it's not would you post getting
Speaker 1: like if you got your lipston would you post it?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't get my lips done, I know, but if
Speaker 3: you did, Yeah, I'm not going about to get him
Speaker 3: and act like nobody fucking notices you can't scroll down?
Speaker 3: You got some fillers? Would you post it for free?
Speaker 2: If you got some free I don't.
Speaker 3: Want fillers, Okay, I'm just oh, I mean, it's hypothetical.
Speaker 3: Anything that I would do. I would post it just
Speaker 3: simply for the simple fact that it's free. It's free.
Speaker 3: And also I'm not going to pretend like I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I woke up like this from yesterday, Like that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Well do you think it's you think it's dangerous to
Speaker 1: promote these type of things?
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, we got hit up in our email about
Speaker 1: some company that wanted us to promote on the podcast again,
Speaker 1: and it's that Ozembic Go Wavy company or whatever the
Speaker 1: fuck it is, the you know, the shit that everyone
Speaker 1: can't do it now, I already said no, but I
Speaker 1: said no, well no, I told you didn't know.
Speaker 3: Well, at first I was like, well, I asked them,
Speaker 3: like can I try it? Can I say no? They
Speaker 3: never responded and willing to go against our ethics so
Speaker 3: she can get skinny.
Speaker 1: And then I and then, you know, I have a
Speaker 1: few friends that have done it, and like some of
Speaker 1: and so I was like, I don't know, like how
Speaker 1: long do you have to take this shit?
Speaker 3: Like forever? Is it?
Speaker 1: Like take it for a few months, you get to
Speaker 1: your body weight, and then you just maintain that shit.
Speaker 1: But my friend who did it, because I was really
Speaker 1: curious about it, and actually someone on her retreat did
Speaker 1: it and she almost fucking died.
Speaker 3: She told me about that. Oh yeah, I just remember
Speaker 3: she overdosed on ozembic by accident. I was asking her.
Speaker 1: I was like, so, what's like, what is the what
Speaker 1: are the side effects? Like, do you know what happens
Speaker 1: long term? It's like, well, no one knows what happens
Speaker 1: long term. I was like okay, and she's like yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's kind of like when you have
Speaker 1: a baby, Like you don't like those first few months
Speaker 1: are like the worst months of your life, but then
Speaker 1: like when you get to the other side of it,
Speaker 1: you kind of forget it and then you have this
Speaker 1: cute baby. That's kind of what happens. Like I'm skinny now,
Speaker 1: so I'm happy and it's great. And I was like, so,
Speaker 1: what were the dark times like what? And she said, well,
Speaker 1: it's everything they said, like extreme constipation, stomach aches, sometimes
Speaker 1: you throw up. I was like what, I was like,
Speaker 1: and so how long do you have to take this?
Speaker 1: And you have to self administer this shot, which I'm
Speaker 1: already not good with needles. I can't even imagine like
Speaker 1: having to put a needle in my leg or anything,
Speaker 1: and she's like, well, you take.
Speaker 3: It for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: I was like, this sounds this sounds like like the
Speaker 1: people higher up know that people are so vain and
Speaker 1: a lot of people and this is not going to
Speaker 1: be a popular statement.
Speaker 2: So I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 1: But all the people that didn't want to take the
Speaker 1: vaccine shot, they're like, I know, you guys just want
Speaker 1: to be skinny.
Speaker 3: You might, you might, you don't care about getting you
Speaker 3: run the rest of getting sick, but you won't do
Speaker 3: is you won't run the rest of gaining way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I just feel like there's always like some little
Speaker 1: hidden something in these drugs that they're like making fads
Speaker 1: and then I'm skeptical.
Speaker 2: So I'm cool.
Speaker 1: I'm cool, and I don't want to be responsible for
Speaker 1: advertising on our show fucking ozembic or whatever the fuck
Speaker 1: it's called, and someone being fucked up out here.
Speaker 3: So I am just like you gotta love we gotta
Speaker 3: love us at every in every stage of the game,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not always going
Speaker 3: to be like it's not always gonna be the part
Speaker 3: like how you ideally see yourself, but that's a part
Speaker 3: of the loving, you know, like that's part of the care.
Speaker 3: It's like I'm not all like I'm fine as hell,
Speaker 3: but I'm not fine as hell every day. Like sometimes
Speaker 3: I break out, sometimes I don't do my hair, whatever
Speaker 3: the fuck. But like that's the reality. Like nobody's fucking
Speaker 3: fine three sixty five. And it's also like chasing the beast,
Speaker 3: like like fucking Danielle said from Marriage and Martinis. It's
Speaker 3: like she's always she's always chasing something and like the
Speaker 3: finish line is always like keeps moving, you know, and
Speaker 3: it's just like fuck it. Just let me be happy
Speaker 3: right now, you know, because it's much easier because Massie
Speaker 3: already told us that it might fuck up your cellular
Speaker 3: makeup and you can't go back on that. And food's
Speaker 3: already bad enough, I know.
Speaker 1: I went to dinner with Massy last night and we
Speaker 1: went to Tai show and I watched her eat and
Speaker 1: she was so careful about what she she like, she
Speaker 1: like didn't eat any of that bullshit because she's, you know,
Speaker 1: she eats really really clean. And I was like, so
Speaker 1: what did she She She ate crispy tune rice and
Speaker 1: yellowtail mm hmmm. And I was like, I want to
Speaker 1: look like Massie, do I need to eat like? And
Speaker 1: then she told me that she would be down to
Speaker 1: I could be her project.
Speaker 3: I want to be her projects. I want to make
Speaker 3: me thick.
Speaker 2: Guys, I'm when I get back, I'm going to be
Speaker 2: her project. You're her project, her project. I was like,
Speaker 2: madly make me her project, like clearly helped me maintain
Speaker 2: my fitness goals.
Speaker 3: Long term forever. She's so fine, she's so beautiful, so beautiful.
Speaker 3: M hmmm. So yeah, no, we're not. We're not endorsing ozothic.
Speaker 3: Love yourself as you are, just be healthy? Is that
Speaker 3: today's affirmation? Love yourself as you are, Love yourself as
Speaker 3: you are? Anyway? Because it's bad ass, bath ass, bath
Speaker 3: ass birthing. Take a bath as nigga, it's bad ass birthing.
Speaker 3: August and we wanted to talk about birthing ideas. And
Speaker 3: you know, we're are some creative ass bitches and we've
Speaker 3: birthed many, many ideas. They hadn't been labor as as fuck,
Speaker 3: but beautiful. So what do you have to say about
Speaker 3: birthing ideas?
Speaker 2: Erica? I would say that, what would I say now?
Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, for me, I've always
Speaker 1: had a lot of ideas. I've always been very creative.
Speaker 1: I've always you know, had ambition and big dreams for
Speaker 1: my creations.
Speaker 2: But I think my biggest hang up was perfection.
Speaker 1: And so I got in the way of my ideas
Speaker 1: and the creative process to completion because I felt like
Speaker 1: things were not perfect or I saw someone else release
Speaker 1: something or do something similar and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's they did it, so I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people get in their way
Speaker 1: in that way of like needing things to be exactly
Speaker 1: how they've envisioned in order to put something out. And
Speaker 1: I think even more so I realize that and me
Speaker 1: now in the space that we're in because we know
Speaker 1: we have our studio in LA and we're podcasters and
Speaker 1: we help other podcasters create podcasts, and I see the
Speaker 1: overthinking that happens in just in even these spaces and
Speaker 1: just like the perfection and like, I want to start
Speaker 1: my podcast, but I recorded five episodes and I hate
Speaker 1: them all and I deleted them and I'm like WHOA,
Speaker 1: Like why And I think that there's so much really
Speaker 1: like that's where the gift is is kind of in
Speaker 1: like the imperfection and the mess, and I think people
Speaker 1: just my I guess my word of advice is to
Speaker 1: just kind of fuck perfection and just put it out,
Speaker 1: put the project out. I think two people sometimes are
Speaker 1: embarrassed to share their ideas, and it's really important for
Speaker 1: you to have a space too. And that's why I
Speaker 1: think we've been able to do what we do, is
Speaker 1: because we've been able to bounce ideas off of each
Speaker 1: other and no matter.
Speaker 3: How silly stupid, like ridiculous they are.
Speaker 1: And you can't you can't ide eight by yourself, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: support in just putting it out, trying it out with
Speaker 1: other people, whatever it is, you know, whether that's like
Speaker 1: you have a jewelry line, gifting your friends some jewelry pieces,
Speaker 1: asking them how they feel about it.
Speaker 3: Like I think people are afraid of feedback. Yeah, if
Speaker 3: you're write sending a couple like I wrote this, what
Speaker 3: do you think you know? I was. We were in
Speaker 3: our discord recently and somebody was talking about like I'm
Speaker 3: gonna start like reading, like writing poetry again, and I
Speaker 3: was like, it's so crazy. I used to write poetry
Speaker 3: so much in like high school, like girl, I got
Speaker 3: so much emo poetry in every journal, and then like
Speaker 3: as an adult, it's like embarrassing even when you had
Speaker 3: like I know, I'm not supposed to speak this name,
Speaker 3: but Poe Tree Bay. It's just like there's certain things
Speaker 3: that in adulthood we become insecure and self conscious about that,
Speaker 3: Like we didn't have any like we didn't give a
Speaker 3: fuck when we were younger. But it's like it's in
Speaker 3: the words of Erica Bad, I'm an artist and I'm
Speaker 3: sensitive about my shit. Yeah, and it's true. But like
Speaker 3: if no one sees it, it's not art. No one
Speaker 3: I mean that it's not art, but it's not. It's
Speaker 3: just your oh, your art for no one else to see,
Speaker 3: for no one else to consume and listen. I mean,
Speaker 3: I never thought that anyone.
Speaker 1: I never thought that just me sharing a story could
Speaker 1: transform someone's life or perception of themselves. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: just talking Sharon, Sharon, my shit, bad choices, right, you
Speaker 1: know what? The other day was my grandmother's birthday, and
Speaker 1: we took her to dinner and my my great aunt's husband,
Speaker 1: so my great uncle, he came, and I always loved
Speaker 1: talking to them because they're just like they've been married
Speaker 1: for fifty five years, they never had any kids.
Speaker 3: They travel all over the world.
Speaker 1: Like they just got back from Morocco and that's actually
Speaker 1: where he was born and spent like I think from
Speaker 1: birth till he was around nine years old there and
Speaker 1: for what I know of his career, like he worked
Speaker 1: in car sales and he was like a salesman. And then,
Speaker 1: like I remember, like a few Christmases ago, my aunt
Speaker 1: was like, uncle Art wrote a book, and I was
Speaker 1: like he did, and she was like, yeah, he wrote
Speaker 1: a book, like and she like was you know, she's
Speaker 1: such a proud wife, like passing it around and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's so cool. I never got
Speaker 1: around to reading it, but it was about his life
Speaker 1: story because he was like, I've had like a really
Speaker 1: crazy life.
Speaker 3: So then we're at my.
Speaker 1: Grandma's dinner and we're sitting there and they're like, man,
Speaker 1: we just got back from Morocco. I haven't been there
Speaker 1: since like the late eighties, and before that, I hadn't
Speaker 1: been there since I was a young boy, and it
Speaker 1: was just an amazing trip.
Speaker 2: And then my aunt was like, he wrote a story
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: Do you want to read it, and she literally pulled
Speaker 1: out printed paper, like eight pages of this story that
Speaker 1: her husband wrote and was like, are you a quick reader?
Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, and I could tell he
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, you don't have to read it. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm definitely gonna read it because it's printed
Speaker 1: like this was printed fresh and stapled in the corner,
Speaker 1: and b I wanted him to know that, I like,
Speaker 1: you know, I want I didn't want him to feel
Speaker 1: like embarrassed. And so I'm sitting there reading it, and
Speaker 1: you know, he's talking about his experience and like when
Speaker 1: he pulled up and how he was kind of disappointed
Speaker 1: because he's from Tangier and things have changed. And I
Speaker 1: guess like the booking agent that helped book their transportation
Speaker 1: got them like a free through in like a free
Speaker 1: four hour car drive where he could go anywhere he
Speaker 1: wanted for four hours. And so in those four hours,
Speaker 1: he wanted to go visit like all his old places
Speaker 1: that he used to go as a kid. And as
Speaker 1: he was going, like things had changed and some of
Speaker 1: the places hadn't changed at all, and the driver they
Speaker 1: were talking to the driver and the driver was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, where are you guys from and they're like,
Speaker 1: we're from La California. He's like, oh, I have a
Speaker 1: I have a fiance in California, And so they're in
Speaker 1: his riding. He was like, yeah, we didn't ask any
Speaker 1: more questions because you know, you think about ninety day fiance,
Speaker 1: like you're like, you got a fiance in California, you're
Speaker 1: a driver in Tangier.
Speaker 3: What's happening.
Speaker 1: So he was like, we didn't ask many questions. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the story, you'll find out why.
Speaker 1: That was like a profound moment. So they go, they explore,
Speaker 1: and then they get back into the car and just backstory.
Speaker 3: My my aunt she's Mexican and obviously he's.
Speaker 2: Moroccan.
Speaker 1: And so at the end of the story, she they
Speaker 1: he says like, you know we got out of the car.
Speaker 1: Oh no, right before we got out of the car,
Speaker 1: he tells us more about his fiance and says, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, my fiance's she's Mexican and you know she
Speaker 1: lives in La And they leave the car and they're
Speaker 1: like reflecting on their day and my aunt says to him, huh,
Speaker 1: what do you think, Like, do you think like a.
Speaker 2: Guy from Morocco?
Speaker 1: And a Mexican girl from California could or a Mexican
Speaker 1: girl could have like a you know, a good relationship.
Speaker 1: And then they looked at each other and then they
Speaker 1: realized that's them. Yeah, And then I was like crying
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, this is so beautiful.
Speaker 1: But all that's to say was that he just went
Speaker 1: for it and he just wrote this beautiful story.
Speaker 3: He's eighty three.
Speaker 1: Years old or something, and you know, I just appreciated
Speaker 1: that he was He's still creating, and he's still writing
Speaker 1: these ideas and he knows that he has a gift too,
Speaker 1: you know. And now I know that he has a
Speaker 1: gift and why he wrote a book and all these
Speaker 1: things and why his wife is so proud of him.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of times our ideas were
Speaker 1: always ideating with the with the expectation for them to
Speaker 1: be like to monetize that or something to be perfect,
Speaker 1: but also to monetize them to have a level of
Speaker 1: success or reverement from our peers or something. But sometimes
Speaker 1: you just create just to create, and that's enough, and
Speaker 1: that's where the joy comes. And eventually, if that's if
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to move forward and do
Speaker 1: something with that, then you can do that, but it
Speaker 1: really has to it's the ideas that come from the
Speaker 1: purest places are usually the most successful.
Speaker 3: I agree, And like, what an inspiring story even though
Speaker 3: it's like rather simple, but it's true, like we forget
Speaker 3: to just create for the sake of creation and like
Speaker 3: to share because I made it and you're my friend
Speaker 3: and I want you to like experience what I experienced
Speaker 3: through my perspective. And I think also like social media right,
Speaker 3: like we're comparing each other. We're comparing our like our
Speaker 3: lanes and our creations. And the truth is like my
Speaker 3: creation is my creation and your creation is yours, and
Speaker 3: that's just that it's not gonna they're not comparable, even
Speaker 3: if they're in the same realm. And yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I think I'm going to create more just to create
Speaker 3: and even just like for us and our business SiZ
Speaker 3: because there's many it's like we did start this place
Speaker 3: from such like a pure fuck it like let's just
Speaker 3: talk ass play in the dining room ass thing, and
Speaker 3: like it did it built something so beautiful And sometimes
Speaker 3: I get overwhelmed in this stage of our businesses because
Speaker 3: there's there's so much at stake and it requires so
Speaker 3: much of us, and I'm like, we're going, and we're going,
Speaker 3: and now it's now it's about business. It's about money,
Speaker 3: and I mean it's about our joy and it's about
Speaker 3: our people, but also about those things because bitches need
Speaker 3: to live. But it's just like I forget that we
Speaker 3: need to just draw all the way back and like
Speaker 3: just be two bitches chilling in the dine, spilling our
Speaker 3: guts out, because like those are the places where we've
Speaker 3: birth our most pure aspirations in our dreams, just from
Speaker 3: pure like playfulness, the playfulness of imagination, you know, like
Speaker 3: let's do this, you know. And then as you and
Speaker 3: it's it's unfortunate that there's like this as you gain
Speaker 3: success and visibility and not I mean not for all things,
Speaker 3: but I just feel like there's more on the line
Speaker 3: and there's there's more people looking at you. And then
Speaker 3: then you feel like, you know, like a a need
Speaker 3: to maintain this level of perfectionism. And of course, like
Speaker 3: we're creative ast bitches, and we put out high level shit,
Speaker 3: but I like, I never want the creative, fun, playful
Speaker 3: part of our business to die because we're so busy,
Speaker 3: like going going going, Oh, you're busy thinking about how
Speaker 3: is this going to make me money? Right, because like
Speaker 3: that's that's not how we got here, thinking about it's
Speaker 3: gonna make us money? Is it going to make us money?
Speaker 3: Is this on is this on brand? Is this on trend?
Speaker 3: And you know, like as an algorithm against us, why
Speaker 3: can this bitch show her side? Titty? And we can't?
Speaker 3: It's true And I think too, like being able to.
Speaker 1: I guess get feedback has been really important. And obviously
Speaker 1: having a podcast is a little bit different because you
Speaker 1: have listeners that can give you feedback and stuff. And
Speaker 1: but either way, like it's been encouraging for us to
Speaker 1: keep moving forward. Is the feedback is even the even
Speaker 1: the negative feedback because it allows it has allowed us
Speaker 1: to really like really think about like, is this is this?
Speaker 2: Is this the do I stand on this message? Is
Speaker 2: this what I believe?
Speaker 3: Yes? It is?
Speaker 1: And I think that we can't be afraid of the feedback.
Speaker 1: And there's so much growth when you kind of move uh,
Speaker 1: like what's the word I'm looking for? Like, I guess
Speaker 1: kind of don't take everything so personal because I know that, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm an artist and I'm sensitive about my shit. But
Speaker 1: there's when you take everything so personal, you'd limit yourself.
Speaker 1: You limit the possibility of growth, and you also limit
Speaker 1: just being able to say, yeah, no, you may not like.
Speaker 3: It, but I do. Whatever you create is not going
Speaker 3: to be for everybody ever, you know, like only certain
Speaker 3: people are going to get it, and like sometimes it's
Speaker 3: just you, you know, and like who cares keep going?
Speaker 3: And sometimes it takes people like it's your vision, so no,
Speaker 3: it may not be someone else's vision. They're not going
Speaker 3: to understand it. And even just like sometimes me and
Speaker 3: Erica need a third or fourth or fifth opinion, Like
Speaker 3: I'm like, we need more ideas. Shout out to the
Speaker 3: drub chat, shout out to the tribe chat, Hey, what
Speaker 3: do you like this? Do you like that? But it's
Speaker 3: just like a part of humanity is connection and a
Speaker 3: part of us all each being individuals and having our
Speaker 3: own ideas and having to have like having the ability
Speaker 3: to have conversation. Literally our conversations spark ideas that potentially
Speaker 3: can change and shift entire nations, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like we have to have conversations with each other in
Speaker 3: order to create, you know, create, All creation is in
Speaker 3: like is usually co created you were created with someone.
Speaker 3: You were born with your mom, she was you were made.
Speaker 3: They were made with your dad. And like, ideas come
Speaker 3: to fruition when we can bounce ideas off of each
Speaker 3: other and say, oh, that's what you believe, that's what
Speaker 3: I believe. Oh that's what you made. What can I make?
Speaker 3: I'm inspired now. Inspiration comes from simply talking it out,
Speaker 3: you know, like I do. I feel so grateful for
Speaker 3: this birth thing, all of this because we were crazy
Speaker 3: enough to like just have playful, wild, imaginative ideas and
Speaker 3: then you know, execute them and see how they like
Speaker 3: really looked in real life. And I think sometimes people
Speaker 3: are afraid even to have discussions with their closest friends.
Speaker 3: But like when I was in my twenties, we had
Speaker 3: a we had like a meeting once a week, me
Speaker 3: and my friends. It was like I forgot what the
Speaker 3: fuck it's called, Like I don't know. It was like
Speaker 3: a work meeting, but nobody was in work together, but
Speaker 3: it was like our dream meeting. And it was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: so this is what I want to manifest and I
Speaker 3: want to be a writer, and this is what I'm
Speaker 3: doing the steps, like it was a way for us
Speaker 3: all to kind of hold each other accountable and like
Speaker 3: a safe space to kind of share our dreams. Even
Speaker 3: though then I was waitressing a lot of us, you know,
Speaker 3: we're just in the interim, and I realized that a
Speaker 3: lot of those seeds that I planted then, you know,
Speaker 3: really you know, manifested now. But also that I was
Speaker 3: in a space where even in your twenties, like no
Speaker 3: one really knows what they're doing. So it feels a
Speaker 3: little you feel safer to express these like wild, big ideas.
Speaker 3: But as we get older, we have this idea that
Speaker 3: we're supposed to have it all figured out, so we're
Speaker 3: less and less likely to share our ideas, and it's
Speaker 3: so limiting. We'll all if we continue on that you
Speaker 3: know that path, no one will share their ideas. You'll
Speaker 3: go to the grave with them and they may very
Speaker 3: much not even grow because you didn't even get the
Speaker 3: in like the insight from a friend that may have
Speaker 3: had like could have taken it to the next level. Right.
Speaker 3: So it's just like as we get older, I even
Speaker 3: for myself, like I encourage us to continue to create
Speaker 3: because it's kind of like the fountain of youth. Right
Speaker 3: then we don't have to like this and all the
Speaker 3: pictures because we're creating. Look at Ericaba do fucking fine,
Speaker 3: and she's creating all the time. I know she's over
Speaker 3: there creating.
Speaker 1: She is, She's a birth of a thousand things, fucking pussy, perfume, incense,
Speaker 1: clothing lines.
Speaker 3: Weed, jewelry, weed, music.
Speaker 1: Like just she's she there's no limit into the ideas
Speaker 1: that she births. She's free in that way.
Speaker 3: It's like take the money out of it and create
Speaker 3: for the sake of your humanity, you know, create for
Speaker 3: the sake of the art, Create for the sake of
Speaker 3: Like it's an outlet to exercise that part of you,
Speaker 3: you know that needs to come out. It's like sexual energy.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of like tantras understanding that sexual
Speaker 3: energy is more than just intercourse. You know, like there's
Speaker 3: there's it's life force energy. It literally creates things, and
Speaker 3: so it's tied to your creative energy. And so it's
Speaker 3: just like kind of like masturbation and being in tune
Speaker 3: with your sexuality is a part of that creation. So
Speaker 3: just you know, get masturbate and have more ideas. Yeah,
Speaker 3: is that the trip? Is that the life hack? That's
Speaker 3: the life hack. Masturbate have more ideas, be more creative
Speaker 3: with masturbation. I think also as a creator, I've realized
Speaker 3: that I.
Speaker 1: There's there are certain conditions in which I create better
Speaker 1: in you know, and that like I feel like there's
Speaker 1: this there's a space and a scene and a vibe
Speaker 1: that I'm always able to create in a more free.
Speaker 2: Way than other than other spaces in places I.
Speaker 1: Also have not I also am very aware where I
Speaker 1: get some of my best ideas, like what I'm doing
Speaker 1: when I get them, and it's it's corny because it's
Speaker 1: sounds you've heard it before.
Speaker 3: But I do.
Speaker 1: I get my ideas either like when I'm exercising or
Speaker 1: I'm in the shower.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that makes sense, or I'm driving. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like when my mind is like distract I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like when my mind is not distracted on like necessarily myself,
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, there's like a weird freedom
Speaker 1: like I have to I'm distracting myself sort of, but
Speaker 1: I'm it's allowing my mind to like kind of just wander.
Speaker 3: Like you're in motion, so your mind can kind of
Speaker 3: like focus on something, whereas if you're not in motion,
Speaker 3: it's you're focused on whatever else you're thinking about.
Speaker 1: I don't know that makes sense because even like writing
Speaker 1: our book, I really had to figure that out.
Speaker 3: I don't like, why the fuck can I not right?
Speaker 3: Like why is it so hard? Like what see?
Speaker 1: What scenario do I need in order to set the
Speaker 1: fuck down? We had a lot of center shit, but
Speaker 1: like staycations.
Speaker 3: Like do I need to try the pool? I need
Speaker 3: to be by the pool.
Speaker 2: I need to be in silence in my house. I
Speaker 2: need to light a candle.
Speaker 3: Is it amus?
Speaker 2: Is it nighttime that I need?
Speaker 3: Like like do I have sex and then go try
Speaker 3: to write? Or no sex? I need folks a little bit?
Speaker 3: No weed? No weed?
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, need weed? Oh I that specific weed, not
Speaker 2: that weed.
Speaker 3: We're not that we. I fall asleep one puff, not three.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think as as creators, we that's
Speaker 1: also our duty is kind of understanding where we create
Speaker 1: the best, what what circumstances, what scenes we need in
Speaker 1: order to to create and like for me personally, aside
Speaker 1: from being in motion, and that's one of my ideas
Speaker 1: come through a I know I need to be not hungry.
Speaker 1: I need to be fed but.
Speaker 3: Not too fed, not too fed, and I fall asleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I prefer working early in the morning. Like that's
Speaker 1: when I got a lot of my done. Is like
Speaker 1: I woke up early. It was like first thoughts. It's
Speaker 1: like those morning pages. Working at night, no, my brain
Speaker 1: is tired. I'm exhausted by then. Although I will get
Speaker 1: ideas sometimes at night, but should I be executing.
Speaker 3: Them at night?
Speaker 1: Probably not, so I think for the creators and the
Speaker 1: people that are out there, Like, I think that's something
Speaker 1: to really consider, is really thinking about where where do
Speaker 1: your best ideas come from? What are you doing when
Speaker 1: that's happening? Is it where's your mindset when that's happening?
Speaker 1: And then also like physically, where do you need to be?
Speaker 3: And those are really like real ass components because if
Speaker 3: your if your mind is not settled, if you're not
Speaker 3: at ease, Like sometimes I feel like I get my
Speaker 3: best I get my ideas at night, but also when
Speaker 3: I'm like maybe I've been stressed, then I'd like take
Speaker 3: a week, and I'm like take a week. Then I'm
Speaker 3: just like, oh, you know what, life is really good?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm like ah, versus like on this, like
Speaker 3: I need to make this idea to me, this money
Speaker 3: to do this like, what's this idea, what's gotta make
Speaker 3: me rich? It's like, bitch, nothing with that. With that,
Speaker 3: you know, get it out of me, tell me God.
Speaker 3: But if I'm just chilling and I'm relaxed and I'm
Speaker 3: not pressed, you know, and it's not dire, I'm not
Speaker 3: putting all this pressure on myself, then I'm like, huh,
Speaker 3: you know, I can flow. And I think that's like,
Speaker 3: you know, when there's music and there's vibes and I'm not, like,
Speaker 3: there's not a stress around whatever it is that I'm creating.
Speaker 3: And sometimes I think we're so stressed about it because
Speaker 3: we have We're putting so much pressure on this idea
Speaker 3: that it's hard for us. It's just like literally birthing
Speaker 3: a baby. If you are not in complete peace, you
Speaker 3: can't really fully get it out, like if you're worried
Speaker 3: about like if you're in like a setting that's not great,
Speaker 3: you can't like your body will shut down, you will
Speaker 3: not dilate, and you will not birth the idea if
Speaker 3: you are not in the right environment or in the
Speaker 3: right state of mind.
Speaker 1: I also, too, I noticed that I noticed that there's
Speaker 1: certain people that I hang out with and I leave
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 2: Have lot of ideas.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's a thing too. And I started to
Speaker 3: notice that like in my twenties, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I hung out with like this hippie lesbian couple and
Speaker 3: they were so like interesting to me, and we just
Speaker 3: talked about ideas. And she showed me this, like yeah,
Speaker 3: like a book she created, like for no reason, like
Speaker 3: a ten page book. And I just remember this, and
Speaker 3: after I left them, I felt high. I was like
Speaker 3: I like them like because also she shared her she
Speaker 3: shared her creation with me, and just like your uncle,
Speaker 3: it was like just for because and it inspired me
Speaker 3: to like just do more because and I done hung
Speaker 3: out with them one time. I never forgot them though ever.
Speaker 3: And it's just like you have to be real about
Speaker 3: vibrations and what vibrations you get from certain people, because
Speaker 3: there are certain people that will make you feel like creating.
Speaker 3: And that was the vibe of Erica and I even
Speaker 3: we didn't even know what that was. And when we
Speaker 3: started it started to like propel. But there are people
Speaker 3: that does make you feel like indifferent when you leave
Speaker 3: them or just like drained, and you can love them,
Speaker 3: but like they're energy is somewhere else. Those are not
Speaker 3: your creative people and so and sometimes those people are
Speaker 3: not people you're super close with yet maybe because you
Speaker 3: feel safe to share big ideas where somebody you know
Speaker 3: same with like a relationship, there's water under the bridge
Speaker 3: and they like you feel like they're judging you, or
Speaker 3: like they only know you as an accountant and now
Speaker 3: you want to be a painter, and so you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, They're like, what do you mean You're
Speaker 3: gonna paint, bitch? You know. So it's like even having
Speaker 3: friendships and circles with people that you feel comfortable creating
Speaker 3: with is super important.
Speaker 2: Do we need to creative creative retreat?
Speaker 3: I think we do?
Speaker 1: This kind of sounds like the like what we talk
Speaker 1: about when we do are retreats, which is you know,
Speaker 1: of those all coming alone so that you don't feel
Speaker 1: judged and you can really take off your mask and
Speaker 1: rebrand yourself in ways and.
Speaker 3: Be in an environment that it's kind of like catering
Speaker 3: to you and you can really just be, like, you
Speaker 3: create the best when you can just be when you're
Speaker 3: not like, you don't have to be anywhere to do shit.
Speaker 3: So I think I think we might need to create
Speaker 3: a creative retreat for I'm for like wealth and wellness,
Speaker 3: you know, like Brounce ideas off other people, chill the
Speaker 3: fuck out, don't have to go anywhere. Food is taken
Speaker 3: care of your fed check. That's a major one, you know,
Speaker 3: and like and it's really it's so useful to share
Speaker 3: your resources. And I heard Lisa Ray say this like
Speaker 3: years ago, and I find this stuck with me. And
Speaker 3: she was just like, people are so busy trying to
Speaker 3: network up, they don't network lateral. I heard that. I
Speaker 3: heard her say that, and it's like you never know
Speaker 3: who the creative people in your circle are and who, well,
Speaker 3: where they're going next, and how they can pull you up.
Speaker 3: And we've absolutely had friends and guests come on that
Speaker 3: have like told us so many secrets about podcasting helped
Speaker 3: us so much. Literally almost every person that we work
Speaker 3: with has been just by lateral networking. And people underestimate
Speaker 3: that because you think you're supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, you don't know, let me ask someone who's
Speaker 1: I think is I think is more successful than you?
Speaker 3: Or like let's do a project together, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Like, yeah, so I do think that's a
Speaker 3: very good idea. My love maybe twenty twenty four. You guys,
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Speaker 3: We haven't got the name yet, we're working on.
Speaker 1: We usually release stuff to our newsletter and our Discord
Speaker 1: community first, which is why we just sold out our
Speaker 1: Costa Rica retreat and we recently just launched new dates
Speaker 1: and I don't know, they might be sold out already,
Speaker 1: who knows, because people were really really ready to come,
Speaker 1: I think, really ready to come and.
Speaker 3: Rebrand themselves.
Speaker 1: So you know, if you have been thinking about coming
Speaker 1: on our retreat, you don't have the creative one set
Speaker 1: in stone yet because we just thought about it right
Speaker 1: this very moment.
Speaker 3: But give it four to sixth week and it'll come
Speaker 3: to fruition. But as usually our gestation period, once you
Speaker 3: birth together, the birth thing gets quicker like after like
Speaker 3: third and fourth birth.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: But if you do want to come to our Costa
Speaker 1: Rica retreat, we just announced new dates and those are
Speaker 1: July thirty first through the fifth and then July eighth
Speaker 1: through the six thirty thirteenth, thirteenth, Yeah, we know things.
Speaker 1: We do know things, and so click the link in
Speaker 1: this description. It's affordable, you can do it. You have
Speaker 1: over like less little under a year to pay for
Speaker 1: it and investing yourself and these kind of spaces are
Speaker 1: really important and there there are a huge reason why
Speaker 1: Mila and I have been able to create the things
Speaker 1: that we've created. We've kind of created our own little
Speaker 1: version of a retreat just in our friendship and the
Speaker 1: way that we work together and ID eight and there's
Speaker 1: a level of vulnerability that we're able to share with
Speaker 1: one another, which inevitably reflects into how we are able
Speaker 1: to share ideas and not really have any fear when
Speaker 1: it comes to our ideas. In fact, sometimes we're like,
Speaker 1: stop sharing ideas, please shut the fuck up. We haven't
Speaker 1: even finished the last idea.
Speaker 3: It could be overwhelming. So I've tried not to allow
Speaker 3: that to that overwhelmingness to come. But there do have
Speaker 3: to be scenarios in place, and I am like, we
Speaker 3: have kind of really figured it out. Just thinking about
Speaker 3: that trip we went to Palm Springs or we took
Speaker 3: mushrooms and there was no TV, and we just I
Speaker 3: don't know what the fuck we did there, but we
Speaker 3: had some ideas. But you know, like we've steadily gone
Speaker 3: on solo trips together, locked ourselves into property that has
Speaker 3: some backyard and maybe a jacuzi and we and that's it.
Speaker 3: We smoke weed and we talk because talking is what
Speaker 3: birth's the ideas, And yeah, I would really love to
Speaker 3: share that with our tribe and our people, because I
Speaker 3: do think it's like definitely a balance, a level of
Speaker 3: self care that comes with birthing ideas.
Speaker 1: For sure, I feel like it's necessary and it's kind
Speaker 1: of away. It's usually the afterthought. It's like, I'll do
Speaker 1: I'll self care myself after I've created the idea. After
Speaker 1: I feel like I've I deserve it. And it's like,
Speaker 1: why can't we do it all at once so that
Speaker 1: we can support and nurture ourselves so that we feel
Speaker 1: ready to birth these ideas.
Speaker 3: It's like what it's like. It's like choosing a healthy
Speaker 3: relationship and a healthy baby, Daddy, make the foundations strong
Speaker 3: before you birth the idea. I like that, you know,
Speaker 3: I like that?
Speaker 2: Man, what's today's taro?
Speaker 3: Is it Taro time? Is that the three of Wands,
Speaker 3: the three of wall I really wanted you to tell
Speaker 3: that you're a horry on Patreon. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you're ready to tell this one about the dentistry.
Speaker 2: The dentistry, how would you.
Speaker 3: Obay and the dentist that's not a horry, Yes it is.
Speaker 3: That was a nightmare. Okay, Well I can tell the
Speaker 3: horri it's not it's not sexual though. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: just a nightmare.
Speaker 2: So once upon a time, while Mila looks up to
Speaker 2: tarot Card.
Speaker 3: I need everyone to right into the show and tell us, like,
Speaker 3: at least at least every woman has dated one scammer.
Speaker 3: It's like you can't avoid it in your life. There's
Speaker 3: too many and they'll scam you and then you get better,
Speaker 3: but like you got like, please tell us we're not
Speaker 3: the only ones who dated scammers. Send your scamming stories.
Speaker 3: Send your best scammers story.
Speaker 1: Send your best scammer stories to Princess Parental Advisor. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: or you can just call the hotline and confess your
Speaker 1: scammer story.
Speaker 3: Two one three zero seven four nine. It's very important
Speaker 3: that we come together on this. It's highly likely that
Speaker 3: they've scammed another woman because we discovered shortly at the
Speaker 3: retreat that he had also been scamming all over California. Apparently,
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's my favorite horror story that you have.
Speaker 3: Anyway back to Tarot, time you would do it reversed. Sure.
Speaker 3: The three of wands reversed suggests that growth and expansion
Speaker 3: are available to you, but you are choosing to play
Speaker 3: it safe and stay within your comfort zone. As a result,
Speaker 3: you are becoming clos You're closing yourself off from new
Speaker 3: opportunity and limiting your potential. What's holding you back? M
Speaker 3: is time. It's time to spread your wings and fly.
Speaker 3: The three of wands reversed indicates that you have attempted
Speaker 3: to embark on your journey of personal development but did
Speaker 3: not accomplish your goals. Unexpected delays and creative blockages might
Speaker 3: have popped up on your path. What the fuck? There
Speaker 3: is disappointment, frustration, and a general feeling that you may
Speaker 3: have just wasted your time by even starting on this path.
Speaker 3: But you have not. But you might not realize, however,
Speaker 3: it is that these setbacks are an essential part of
Speaker 3: your life's journey and contribute to your personal evolution. Similarly, Similarly,
Speaker 3: the reverse three of Wand's can indicate that your plans
Speaker 3: might come to a grinding halt with unexpected delays and
Speaker 3: are other frustrating obstacles. You may need to wait on
Speaker 3: others to complete a task, or you have underestimated how
Speaker 3: much time the work involves when planning, and add buffer
Speaker 3: time so external problems don't adversely affect you. So you
Speaker 3: have to book our retreat.
Speaker 1: So basically, comebook r Creative Creative Retreat first and foremost,
Speaker 1: go on our website, Good Mom's Bad Choices, and join
Speaker 1: our newsletter. There's there's a little drop down tab and
Speaker 1: it asks why are you here? Click retreats so we
Speaker 1: can make sure that you guys get those retreat emails. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like this is this is what we need,
Speaker 1: It's what the people need. Yeah, yeah, I'm including me,
Speaker 1: including us because I mean, because even as I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not perfect creators. I think one of
Speaker 1: the things that we struggle with sometimes a strategy and
Speaker 1: so like even like at our own retreats, we gained
Speaker 1: so much from these things. And the whole reason we
Speaker 1: started the retreat was because it was something that we needed.
Speaker 1: And we'll be right there with you at the creative retreat,
Speaker 1: bitch learning. Okay, we won't find a strategist.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, it's like creation takes wellness, but
Speaker 3: also once you create, it takes business stuff that we've
Speaker 3: just we're figuring the shit out. Not easy, but like
Speaker 3: and you know, like I really find joy in thinking that,
Speaker 3: Like we have the opportunity to exchange information that like
Speaker 3: bitches may not know. And you know, right now we're
Speaker 3: in like a business course from a friend that was
Speaker 3: mentored by this woman, and like this is and so
Speaker 3: many of our friends like shout out to Mandy, shout
Speaker 3: out to Jessica, shout out to all the friends we've
Speaker 3: ever had. That's like really shared things that have helped us,
Speaker 3: you know, fucking mindful fee Like so many people have
Speaker 3: put us on resources, people, apps, whatever it is. And
Speaker 3: you know, we all can pour into each other's cups
Speaker 3: so that we can all come up, you know, and
Speaker 3: mostly have fun and not laugh at each other when
Speaker 3: we write poetry and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start printing my poetryes and keep them in
Speaker 2: myth purse.
Speaker 3: Me too, I'm just gonna like, maybe, oh, I know,
Speaker 3: we can like make make little fonts and just pass
Speaker 3: into people in public. Okay, you know, like just like
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a social movement.
Speaker 1: So when I say when I when I show up
Speaker 1: to dinner one day and I say, hey, guys, I
Speaker 1: have the poem that I want you to.
Speaker 2: Read, I need you not laugh at me. I'm not
Speaker 2: no laughing, no laughing.
Speaker 3: I kind of work on not laughing when things are serious.
Speaker 3: I have a problem no laughing because and you better
Speaker 3: not laugh at my poetry.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna laugh. Okay, I'm going to cheer you one.
Speaker 3: This is a reminder to not laugh at your friends creations.
Speaker 1: Don't even though it's just a nervous laugh, but don't
Speaker 1: do that shit because you never know what that can like,
Speaker 1: that can shut somebody down.
Speaker 3: But also, like I realize I do that because I
Speaker 3: don't give myself the freedom to just write poetry and
Speaker 3: just I just automatically have that visceral response like oh
Speaker 3: you're writing poetry at thirty six, Okay you printed it out,
Speaker 3: Like what's wrong with me? Bicus? Some will love poetry,
Speaker 3: they do. So yeah, well, wow, this was really on point,
Speaker 3: this Taro. It was well, you guys, thank you for
Speaker 3: joining us for this. Another Wednesday with the Good Moms.
Speaker 3: We so appreciate you and we can't wait to see
Speaker 3: you in Los Angeles, California and August twenty first. August
Speaker 3: October twenty first, We're not ready yet, it must be
Speaker 3: in October. Come see us in La October twenty first
Speaker 3: at the Terragram Ballroom and check out our website for
Speaker 3: all of our upcoming retreats. And take care of yourself
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Speaker 2: Choose yourself today.
Speaker 3: Bye bye
Speaker 2: MHM