1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Hello, can you hear me? 2 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 2: Yes, sir? What's your name? 3 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: I guess i'd prefer if you give me a name. 4 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: School all right, I'm gonna call you Daniel. What's up? Daniel. 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: That's funny, that's my best friend's name. Not much, Uh, 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: I guess I was calling because I was looking for 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: some outside perspective on my current situation. I am. I'm 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: on disability due to my mental health. I have schizophrenia, 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: PTSD and a few other things. But I want to 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: start my own business and I'm just kind of like 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: paranoid that if I do that, you know, the government's 12 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: going to tell me that I don't need the disability anymore, 13 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: and then if my business doesn't work out, I'm kind 14 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: of fucked. 15 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: So, Daniel, I I think you know this already, but 16 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: I'm not a real therapist. Uh, nor do I know 17 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: anything about government benefits or anything like that. So I 18 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: have any information I could possibly give you, uh is 19 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 3: going to be completely worthless. But we can talk through 20 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: it a little bit if if if you'd. 21 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm just kind of 22 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: looking for like a outside perspective, not really any any 23 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: advice or anything like that. 24 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean, look, ye, I mean, let me 25 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: ask you this. So you so, okay, so you're getting 26 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: like benefits from you're getting money from uh from Uncle 27 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: Sam and uh do you know for a fact that 28 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: if you go and start a business and become a 29 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: we're gonna get into some We're gonna get into some 30 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: weeds here. Okay, if you become a a ten ninety 31 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: nine independent contractor employee as you would for your business, 32 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: if you become a self employed individual and start, you know, 33 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: make it a little bit of that ten ninety nine money. 34 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: Do you know for a fact that the government is 35 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: going to tell you to fuck off? 36 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that for a fact. But the work 37 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: I would be doing is pretty much the same thing 38 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: that I was doing before I had my mental breakdown 39 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: and got on disability. 40 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the thing is. 41 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: You should call you should find that out because my 42 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: outside perspective to this is, uh, the the one of 43 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: the great cures to paranoia is evidence facts. You know, 44 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: this is this is like an empirical thing that you're 45 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: talking about here. So go go ask an accountant man, 46 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: go ask a bring this, Bring this inquiry to the 47 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: people who who would know, and I just that's my 48 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: general thing is like, you know, you could be paranoid 49 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: about something and rull it over in your head over 50 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: and over again, but it's foolish to do that about 51 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: something like this, where you could just look it up 52 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: on the internet or talk to somebody who knows about it, 53 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: you know. 54 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,279 Speaker 2: So, Uh, it's surprisingly weirdly common for people. 55 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: To just decide out of thin air a fact and 56 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: do no research on it, low low key, possibly because 57 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: they secretly want some excuse to not do something, which, 58 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: by the way, I get because excuses to not do 59 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: things are awesome. They they make it so that you 60 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: don't have to fucking do anything, which is sometimes cool. 61 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: But uh, dude, fucking you. 62 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: Know, get get get off, get off the phone with me, 63 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 3: and go talk to a tax attorney or something like that, 64 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: you know, instead of instead of star stewing around and worrying, 65 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: why don't you why don't you do some. 66 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: This? This is my long winded version of telling you 67 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: to to just google it. 68 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: I have. 69 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: I have googled it. I've done my fair share of research. 70 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: But the okay, the consensus is a pretty mixed bag, 71 00:04:53,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: where some people will be able to work, uh and 72 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: receive money both from their own employment and the government, 73 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: and other people are just kind of uh kicked off 74 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: without any explanation. It's kind of just like if they. 75 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: Well, look, let me let me what what's what's the 76 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: what's the what's the business? 77 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: What's the business you want to do? Can I ask that? 78 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 5: Uh? 79 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I make jewelry. 80 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: Okay, So you think that if you start an Etsy 81 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 3: the government is going to kick you off of your disability. 82 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Not necessarily if I did like an Etsy, because I 83 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: think they do have I think they do have some 84 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: kind of the way if you're just kind of like 85 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: pawning off your hobbies. But I want to make it 86 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: like a full scale business. I mean just it would 87 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: only be me. I'm not trying to like employ other people, 88 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: but you know, I want to. 89 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: Sell I what is that? What is the difference between 90 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: those two things. 91 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: I guess the difference would be how much money I 92 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: make off of it. 93 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. 94 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: I guess I'm slightly confused at what you just said, 95 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: because you were like, I don't want to start an 96 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: online shop where I just pawn off jewelry I make. 97 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: I want to open a shop where I sell jewelry. 98 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: I make well. No, I mean I mean, like, I like, 99 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: I don't wanna. I don't wanna like only be confined 100 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: to like an Etsy type marketplace. You know, I want 101 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: to I want to like make my own site, have 102 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: my own and you know, kind of make my own style. 103 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: Right. 104 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: But sure, sure, sure, but we I mean we're getting 105 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: into the weeds of of like you know, the these 106 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: these these unimportant logistics society. You want to open up 107 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: business starting selling jewelry, and. 108 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: I guess, like I don't know, man, Yeah, I mean 109 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: you should. I if you really want my outside opinion, 110 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: you should just do it. You should just do it. 111 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: And yeah, you should just do it. And here's the thing. 112 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: I again, you should please your God. 113 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 6: Uh. 114 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: I know you said you've done some research, but please, 115 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: dear God, talk to somebody who's not me about this, 116 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: because I don't have any of this information and I'm 117 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: gonna fly. 118 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: Blind on it. 119 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: But like, dude, just do it, because if you want to, 120 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: if you want to do something, you should, you should 121 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: do it. You're gonna fucking die and be nothing forever, 122 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: so just do it. And worst case scenario if you 123 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: start making if the worst case scenario is that you 124 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: start making so much shit tons of money selling jewelry 125 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: that you don't need government disability anymore. 126 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: Isn't that a good thing? Isn't that what you want? 127 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's what I want. But if if it 128 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: doesn't pan out, then you know, it's not just mean again? 129 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: You should? You should? You should? You should really talk 130 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: to somebody. 131 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: Is not me about this, but like, if you make 132 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: like eight thousand dollars in a year selling jewelry on Etsy, 133 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 3: I don't think the government is going to take away 134 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: your benefits. Please take please don't take my word for that. 135 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: Please go talk to somebody who knows. But from a 136 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: general philosophical outside perspective on this situation, I would say 137 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: to you, you know, I guess, I guess to figure 138 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: it out and not just like let the you know, 139 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: not to make again I'm being This is why one 140 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: of the reasons I hate giving advice is because I'm 141 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: a hypocrite about it. 142 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, I did. 143 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: The reason the reason I hate giving advice is because 144 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: I'm noticing your man I you're making like you're like 145 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: operating out of fear. This is like a fear based indecision, 146 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: which I am the king in my personal life of 147 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: fear based indecisions, and so it makes me feel gross 148 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: to tell you to not operate, uh from from a 149 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: fear basis, because I am familiar with what that looks like, 150 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: but from an outside of perspective, gross man, you know 151 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: that's what I'm seeing here. So I mean, just so 152 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: so I would say, I mean, yeah, stop doing that 153 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: and figure out how to sell your fucking jewelry man. 154 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: Goddamn. 155 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, I just like I'm it makes 156 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: me so worried because, like, you know, I live with 157 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: my partner and our kids, and we just bought a 158 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: house and my partner recently got laid off, so kind 159 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: of everything is hinging on my very minimal money that 160 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: I get. And if the government tells me, you know, 161 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: you were already doing this before so you can do 162 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: it again, then like. 163 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay, I don't want to. I don't 164 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: want to, I don't want to get I don't I 165 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, well, I don't want. 166 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 3: To get too deep in like the weeds, because this 167 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: is like your where I'm you know, I'm sitting here 168 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: in my polyester gecko suit trying to give advice about 169 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: government bureaucracies. 170 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: But like, let me ask you this, Well, so what 171 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: you said, Okay, So I just want to. 172 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: So I'm curious, like, before you were on disability, what 173 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: were you doing? 174 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: Were you a W two employee or like, what were 175 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: you doing? 176 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was working for the Garrett you're working for 177 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Jerry Under Yeah, Under, I was doing like repairs and stuff. 178 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: Okay, And you were doing that as a salary to 179 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 3: W two employee with benefits. Yes, okay, that's significantly different 180 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: than you know, making some extra money selling jewelry on 181 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 3: your Etsy store. 182 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 183 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: I do not know if the government i'd been doing. 184 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: The same stuff with my hands, you know what I mean? 185 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think that's what the I I get. 186 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: I really I hate, I hate, I hate saying these 187 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: things because you should absolutely talk to a person who knows. 188 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: But from my dumb ass, uninformed perspective, I would assume 189 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: that the actual thing you're doing matters less than like 190 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: the setup of the you know, you're you're you have 191 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: a you have a business, you're ten ninety nine employee. 192 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: It's very different from being W TWOD whether or not, 193 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: like because you're not. You're not doing the same thing. 194 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: You're starting a whether or not the Yeah, you're not 195 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 3: doing the same thing. You're doing a totally different thing. 196 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: You're starting your own business. You're probably at least at 197 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 3: the very at least at the very beginning, going to 198 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: be making significantly less money. 199 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: Uh than you were making before. 200 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: But you know, the in the ideal version of your life, 201 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: I assume you start this little business and eventually you 202 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 3: start making enough money that you don't even want the 203 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 3: fucking government disability anymore because you're making so much money 204 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: doing this thing. But like to to be to be 205 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: too scared to try. I don't know, it just it 206 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: just seems figure outable. And again, please do your fucking god, 207 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: go talk to somebody who you know, I go talk 208 00:12:54,720 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: to a tax douche or or you know, government. Yeah, 209 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: don't don't ask me about these things. 210 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 211 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 3: But if, if, if this conversation can be a catalyst 212 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: for you to go figure it out, than great. But yeah, 213 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: I mean don't. I wouldn't sit around being scared about it. 214 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: I would just, you know, go go do it. Sounds 215 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: like you, it sounds like something you want to do. 216 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: So just fucking do it. 217 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 5: Yeah. 218 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good point too, with you know, 219 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: the tax forms and having it be completely different because 220 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: it's not in the same environment. I never really looked 221 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: at it that way. 222 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: No, it is. 223 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: I don't think the government cares. I think they're just looking. 224 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: They don't really. I think they care less about what 225 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: you do and more about the the how how how 226 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 3: what you do is organized. 227 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: Mm hm. 228 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: Anyway, anyway, I've got a lot of people on the 229 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: other line who are trying to ask me about tax advice, 230 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: and I got to get to them. So is there 231 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: anything else you want to say to the people of 232 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 3: the computer before we go? 233 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, I'd like to just they please don't stigmatize 234 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: people with schizophrenia or similar mental illnesses. A lot of 235 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: people tend to think that I'm a dangerous person when 236 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: when they find out that I have schizophrenia, and it 237 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: kind of alienates you. But you know, not not everybody's 238 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: like that. You know. Sometimes we just see and hear 239 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: things and other than that, you know or regular people. 240 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: Does the schizophrenia help you make cooler jewelry? 241 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: You know? Honestly, I kind of think it does because 242 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: I tend to see things a little differently. 243 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: I guess, right, what kind of pieces do you I. 244 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: Can do with with the equipment I have, I can 245 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: do rings, chains, basic like pendant work. I can set 246 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: stones into whatever. I mostly work with silver because I mean, 247 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: obviously I'm I'm only getting like fourteen hundred a month. 248 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: I can't afford gold. But yeah, I could make most 249 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: of you know what you would see a like a 250 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: craft fair. 251 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: Well, my friend, I hope I hope that you uh 252 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: figure out how to start selling jewelry, because I don't. 253 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: I don't. 254 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: I think, uh, you know, it sounds like something that 255 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: I think if you have, if you have something like 256 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: that that you like to do, you know, I mean, 257 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a gift. 258 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: So you know, go do stuff. I guess, I guess, 259 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: I guess. I hope you find someone who's not a 260 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: gecko to talk to about this stuff. Thank you for calling, 261 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: having the rest of the night, and good luck, man, 262 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: Thanks man. I appreciate you saying that. Thanks man, Thank you, 263 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: bye bye. 264 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hi, Hey, what's your name? 265 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 4: My name's uh Max? 266 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: Max? What's up Max? How's life? 267 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 6: Mhm? 268 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: Good? 269 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: What's your name? 270 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: My name is Lyle. Oh hey, hi, hey. 271 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: I actually met you like less see what I think? 272 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: Where did? Where did we meet? 273 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 4: It was in South Carolina? In Greenville? Yeah, yeah, yeah 274 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 4: was small. It was a but yeah, I was. I 275 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 4: brought my friend that she didn't know you about, like 276 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: she had no idea who you were. And yeah, so 277 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: it was it was pretty cool. 278 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: Did she have fun? Did she have a fun time 279 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: at the show? 280 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 6: Yeah? 281 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, she really, she really enjoyed it. I don't know 282 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 4: if she list with you podcasts now, but yeah, I 283 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: introduced her to you. So yeah, it was pretty cool. 284 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: Well that's cool. 285 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: I'm glad that she didn't I'm glad that she didn't 286 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: go see the show and then come up with a 287 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: plan to assassinate me. 288 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 289 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 4: I don't think she's that kind of person. But yeah, 290 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: I don't got, I don't got. I don't know anybody 291 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: that would do that. Max. 292 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: Max, Uh, what's up? What brings you to call in 293 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: to my Echo show today? 294 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 4: Okay? Well, you know, I mean, obviously everybody has so 295 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 4: many problems all the time. But my current problem, well 296 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 4: not really a problem, but it was it was something 297 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 4: I wanted to talk to you about. So I'm in Houston, Texas, 298 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: and so it's supposed to snow like in the morning 299 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 4: tomorrow morning, and I wanted to I wanted to visit. 300 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 4: I wanted to visit my boyfriend. He's like in the 301 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: north side of Houston. I'm in the south, and like 302 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 4: it was gonna snow. So I was like, you know what, 303 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: We're not gonna do anything tomorrow and it's gonna be 304 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 4: snowed in. So I was like, you know, we just 305 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 4: we're just gonna go We're just gonna go over there. 306 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 4: I'm gonna just go over there and you know, we 307 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: can just do nothing together in the snow or make 308 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: snowman's or whatever. 309 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: You know. It sounds nice, Yeah, it sounds nice. The issue. 310 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 4: So I live with I live with my mom, right, 311 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: so I told her. I told her. I was like, 312 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to my boyfriend's house and because we're 313 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: not going to do anything tomorrow anyway, because there's the snow, 314 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: you know, right. So I told her that and she 315 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 4: was like, have you seen the weather. It's going to snow. 316 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: You're not going to be able to make it out 317 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 4: of the house tomorrow. I was like, Uh, it's going 318 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 4: to snow like two inches, So what it's going to 319 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 4: be gone by? 320 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: Like, so what again? What's the what's the issue? 321 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 6: Is? 322 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 4: Like she from going she cop blocked me, Bro, I 323 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: was trying to get some. I'm trying to get some. 324 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Max Max Max? How old? How 325 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 2: old are you? 326 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 4: Why does it matter? 327 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: It made? Max? Are you above the age of eighteen? 328 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: How old are you? 329 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm twenty six. 330 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: You're twenty six, Matt Maxie. 331 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 4: There, yeah, I'm here. Can you hear me? 332 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 3: You're twenty six, you're my Look at twenty six? Your 333 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: mom cannot cock block you. 334 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 4: Okay, But I live with her, you know, that's the thing. 335 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: And I'm Mexicans, so it's like I have to live 336 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: by like my Mexican parents' rules because I live with 337 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 4: No you do. 338 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: Not though you do not, though you do not, though 339 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: you do not, though you do not. I mean, look short, 340 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 3: you know what you know what? 341 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: You know? 342 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 5: What? 343 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: You know? What short? 344 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 3: If you're living short, if you're living with your mom 345 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: and yeah, and your mom is like, uh well my house, 346 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: my rules. I mean that sucks, though, do you? 347 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: I mean, like it's not. 348 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 4: That bad because she lets me, she doesn't tell me, 349 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 4: like no a lot so just like. 350 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: Pro prou bleup prow but proud b prow, right do you? 351 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: But here's the thing, and I don't I want to 352 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 3: like tread carefully on this because I understand and I 353 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 3: lived with my parents for a fair amount of time 354 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: after uh, you know, school and shit, and I understand 355 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 3: that we live in a tough economy and a lot 356 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: of you gotta you know, I get it, I totally 357 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: get it. 358 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: But like, I mean, what do you have do you do? 359 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 6: You? 360 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: Are you attempting to leave your parents' house? 361 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 4: Like what do you mean attempting to leave? As in 362 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 4: like when they move out? 363 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 6: Yeah? 364 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, obviously, yeah, I'm not trying to be 365 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: like forty and still living with my parents, Like yeah, 366 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 4: the goal is to like have my own place someday. Obviously, 367 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: It's just like if I'm just not financially there and 368 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: if they allow it, then I sure will live for like, 369 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: you know, with my parents, sure as long as I can. 370 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 4: But people in the chat saying I don't sound twenty six. 371 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: I know, I sound like a freaking eighteen year old 372 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 4: just because of the way I talk, don't. 373 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: But don't, don't, don't, don't, don't look at don't look 374 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 3: at the chat, don't look at the chat. 375 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: Let's just talk. 376 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 4: Okay, it's too late, all right, all right, So yeah, 377 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 4: that was my issue as as of today. 378 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: But it's okay, okay, I mean, oh well yeah, I 379 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 3: mean like, yeah, I mean, dude, what's the thing is? 380 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: Like normal? 381 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: Normally I would be like, your mom can't fucking tell 382 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: you what to do? But I guess if you're yeah, 383 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: I guess, I guess if you live at her house, 384 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: she like kind of totally can tell you what to do. 385 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: She yeah, that's that's exactly what I was thinking. I mean, loki. 386 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: I was about to say, like, I don't really care, 387 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna still go, but then she just kind of like, oh, 388 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: if it was if it was your dad, you would 389 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 4: probably listen to her, I mean listen to him. I 390 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 4: was like, all right, you know what, if it makes 391 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 4: you happy, then fine, I'll stay here. Okay, just because 392 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 4: of two inches of snow is such a big dauty 393 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: you I'll just stay. 394 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: Do you have I will? I mean, do you do? 395 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 2: You do you have a div John? Hello? Hello? 396 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 3: Okay, this person? All right, this person has disappeared. This 397 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: person is gone. 398 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. That's a tough to bit. 399 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 3: Again, I like, this is a tough one to talk 400 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 3: about because, like I told, like it is it is 401 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: just such a fucking like shit economy and it's hard 402 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 3: for people, and like, you know, it's hard. It's hard 403 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: to like the getting the money to like get a 404 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,239 Speaker 3: fucking security deposit and find the place and do all 405 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: that stuff is like a like extreme burden unfortunately. But yeah, 406 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, it's that's a tough one. 407 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: And I also think that like I also like fully 408 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 3: am in favor of like living at your parents' house 409 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: to save up money, you know. I mean that's what 410 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 3: I was doing, uh when I first like you know, 411 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 3: graduated college and ship. Uh, Like I think it's I 412 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: think it's a good thing to do, but it's tough. 413 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: It's tough to make. It's tough to manage that and 414 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: like get yourself in a a good like financial position 415 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: while also dealing with like you know, having having to 416 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 3: suck up to your parents and like deal with all 417 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: their ship. 418 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: That's tough. I don't know, but yeah, I don't know. Uh, 419 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 2: I hope that. 420 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: This caller can go have sex with her boyfriends and 421 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 3: uh live live a happy life. 422 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Hey, what's up. What's your name? 423 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, it's a Max. 424 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 5: I actually sent you an email for the gek mail. 425 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: Did I read it on the podcast? Yeah? 426 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah you did. 427 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 5: It was the It was the one where you did 428 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 5: the gek mail one and then you did phone calls 429 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 5: as well. 430 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 2: Oh what was the email that you sent? 431 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 5: It was about father issues. It was like stuff about 432 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 5: like making my dad proud, and like I have these 433 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 5: classes for like CALF two and like physics and stuff 434 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 5: like that. 435 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember that. 436 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: You were kind of you were sort of talking about like, uh, 437 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: you know, like a pressure to do better in your 438 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 3: classes to like not disappoint your parents. Yeah yeah, yeah, 439 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: where uh where are you at with that? 440 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 5: You know, I'm still in the same boat. To be 441 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 5: honest with you, I actually did want to go a 442 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 5: little more in depth with that because it's not just like, mmm, 443 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's making my parents pro I 444 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: don't know. I'd like to go more. 445 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: We'll do We'll do us, do us a favor for 446 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: those who have not heard me read that email, and 447 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 3: as a refresher for everyone, involved. Why don't you want 448 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: you start from scratch? 449 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 450 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 5: So I am a second year in a university and 451 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 5: I'm down there. Last time I took some really hard 452 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 5: classes and the main point is that I showed my 453 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 5: dad my grades and they were all pretty much a's 454 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 5: and there was just that one C. And he looked 455 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 5: at that one C and then called me out for it, 456 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 5: and I was just pretty upset about that. So I 457 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 5: just didn't know where to go from there. So that 458 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 5: that was like the whole point of that email. I'd 459 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 5: like to get a little bit more in depth. 460 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 3: With that, sure, I mean, I mean, yeah, I have 461 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: thoughts and they're probably similar to the thoughts I expressed 462 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: when I read the email, But yeah, what what more death? 463 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: What more depth do you want to get into? 464 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 5: So actually this was literally almost going to be a 465 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 5: year ago. So this was actually the seventh of February. 466 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 5: It was around like three am and another for some context, 467 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 5: I my dad has an auto shop, so it's like 468 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 5: a family business that we have and I always go 469 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 5: there and like help out, and yeah, around that time, 470 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 5: he's actually having some chest pains and I guess he 471 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 5: had to go to the hospital at like three, and 472 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 5: then it ended up being his main arteries was clogged 473 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 5: like ninety five percent, So I'm guessing if he didn't go, 474 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 5: he'd be dead probably, So so the reason why I 475 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 5: wanted to make him in a way proud because when 476 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 5: he left, I'm all also alone with him for you 477 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 5: know obviously, right, so I there's no one left to 478 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 5: cover the business, so it's just me. So by that time, 479 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 5: I was like eighteen stone, I was still eighteen. I 480 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 5: don't know shit about running a business. I don't know anything. 481 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 5: So it's just me my two co workers and that's it, 482 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 5: literally nothing more than that. And I'm also juggling like 483 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 5: like going to work, opening up in the morning, going 484 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 5: to classes, and I had to do that for like 485 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 5: a month and a half while he was in the 486 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 5: hospital and also recovering, So honestly, that took a really 487 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 5: really big mentaltone me and I just like I had 488 00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 5: no social life in any means whatsoever. And yeah, definitely 489 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 5: that time sucked, and that's like one of the reasons 490 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: why I wanted to make in proud of me. And 491 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 5: I also saw it and I kind of expected him 492 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 5: to acknowledge like everything that I've gone through and like 493 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: I'm not expecting it. I'm not saying like he's a 494 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 5: reason that I'm going through this heell or whatever. That's 495 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 5: like out of his control. But I just wanted some 496 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 5: sort of validation from him, and I just didn't get that, 497 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 5: like at all in any means. 498 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 6: So I just I. 499 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 5: Didn't get anything. And like I failed one class, but 500 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 5: it's like I actually still passed it either way, So 501 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 5: it's fine. I passed everything, and I was still doing 502 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 5: this back and forth and I'm just not getting anything 503 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 5: from that dude. And I understand that you and I 504 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 5: have said this already at hey, like you already know 505 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 5: that you're proud of yourself of everything that you've done. 506 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 5: You don't need ship from the stupid But I just 507 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 5: want something that's like it's like the only thing I want. 508 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 5: M hm. So I don't know, it's a lot. I'm 509 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 5: not looking for anything for you to say or anything, 510 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 5: just like I don't know your thoughts or whatever. 511 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 6: M hmm. 512 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: And why you're why you're nineteen. 513 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 5: You're now nineteen. 514 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: Mmm mm hmm. And well, I gut, what are you 515 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: studying again? Remind me you talked about a little bit 516 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: of email, like. 517 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 5: Mechanical engineering. 518 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: Is that what you want to be doing? 519 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 5: Yes, it's exactly what I want to be doing. 520 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: Okay, great. 521 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 5: If I didn't have that, i'd be working McDonald dude. 522 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: Okay, great, okay, great, okay, great everything. 523 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: I have a question everything that you just said to me. 524 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 3: Have you ever have you ever said any of this 525 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: to your dad? Have you ever told your dad like, 526 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 3: have you ever ever sat with your dad and been like, yo, dude, 527 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: I fucking have been doing so much shit for you, 528 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: you know, because here's the thing, like you, like, you 529 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: don't have to do any of that ship your dad. 530 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 3: Your dad gave birth to a son, not a fucking employee, 531 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 3: you know, like like like you like you you did 532 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: all that shit for him because like because you wanted to, 533 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: and you felt a responsibility to and you rose to 534 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: the responsibility that you felt you had. It's a very 535 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: admirable thing to do. And you certainly feel that way. 536 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: And have you ever sat down with your dad and 537 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 3: been like, yo, like, I did a bunch of work 538 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: for you. 539 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: I helped you out a lot. 540 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 3: I've been putting in a lot to you know, have 541 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 3: a good relationship with you and to try to make 542 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 3: you proud and to uh, you know, I've been putting 543 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: in a lot here and I don't I'm not getting 544 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: anything from you. 545 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: You know what the fuck? Have you sat him down? 546 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: Not those exact words, but have you sat him down 547 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: and expressed that to you? 548 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: That that to him? 549 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 5: Not those exact words. I didn't mention it to him once, 550 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 5: but this was like maybe like a couple of weeks, 551 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 5: almost a month after he got out, and I didn't 552 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 5: mention it to him, and he just kind of like 553 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 5: shrugged it off in a way. So yeah, I didn't 554 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 5: really get like a like a full on like response 555 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 5: from him. 556 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: He so you you brought all this to his attention, 557 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: He just shrugged. 558 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: It off. 559 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: In a way. 560 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, in a way. M yeah. M. So it's just 561 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 5: like like like what more can I do? There's not 562 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 5: more that I can do, Like legitimately, that's why I 563 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 5: tell you, and you told me as well. Okay, like again, 564 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 5: you know you're proud of yourself, and I think that's 565 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 5: all I need. I don't need shit from this dude. 566 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 5: So I don't know. 567 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 2: I'm yeah, God, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. 568 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 5: By the way, I don't I don't know if this 569 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 5: helps I don't even know if I can say this 570 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 5: on the stream, but I've literally been working there since 571 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 5: I was like fifteen fourteen. I don't think it's any. 572 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: Like help, but yeah, I don't know. 573 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 5: I just I've been at this for a while, not yeah, 574 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 5: handling this alone, but I've been at this for a while. 575 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm like, no, sincerely, I'm I'm I'm very 576 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: sorry to hear that your dad has not been appreciative 577 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 3: of your efforts. And I hope that that doesn't affect 578 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 3: your own personal view of yourself. 579 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: And dude, I don't know. It's like you're kind of right, 580 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, what the fuck more can you do? 581 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: Like all you, like in any relationship of any kind 582 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: is like you put in, like you put an effort 583 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: to it, and like if the other person is not 584 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 3: appreciative of your efforts, you know you can communicate that. 585 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 3: You can go, hey, dad, what the fuck I've been 586 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: doing all this work and you've you know, never tell me, 587 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: you know that you're proud of me and any this stuff. 588 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 3: And if he shrugs it off, Dude, I don't know, 589 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 3: it sucks, but it's like, yeah, I guess there is 590 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: nothing that you can do except there, I guess there 591 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 3: is nothing that you can do except be like, all right, 592 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 3: you know what, if you're not gonna appreciate me, I'm 593 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: just I'm not gonna do anything shit for you anymore. 594 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not fifteen anymore. I don't you know, 595 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 2: need you. 596 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna just like do my own shit. I'm gonna 597 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: try to get good grades because I like what I'm doing. 598 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I'm not gonna let you be 599 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: in control of me emotionally. You know, we're getting into 600 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 3: we're getting into such like this is like such like 601 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: real therapy shit right here. But like, yeah, but yeah, 602 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: I'm deeply sorry to here that uh that that. 603 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're dealing with this ship for your dad. 604 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 3: It's tough because like, I don't know, I feel like 605 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 3: if you're like if you're like a parent, you know, 606 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: like you gotta uh like that like the like like 607 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 3: love and appreciation has to be like virtually like unconditional, 608 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: you know. I think that's kind of like a contract 609 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 3: for doing something like that. So I feel I feel 610 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: I feel bad for people who uh you know have 611 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 3: not like you know, don't have that as their experience 612 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: and it's a bummer, And I guess the best that 613 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 3: you can, like because it's like, yeah, what the fuck 614 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: can you do? Because after you've communicated with it, and 615 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 3: after you put in all this effort, bro, the best 616 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 3: you can do is like take this is gonna sound 617 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: like kind of like sweet and corny, but like, dude, 618 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 3: I mean the best you can do is like examine 619 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 3: what you're not getting from your dad and like give 620 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 3: it to other people, you know what I mean? Like 621 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: you you can look at your dad and be like 622 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 3: you look at your dad and be like, oh, he's 623 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: not appreciative, he's not this, he's not that, and be like, Okay, 624 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 3: how in my relationships, Like I don't know if you 625 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: have a you know, a fucking girlfriend or friends or 626 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 3: like whatever, it's like in my relationships that I don't 627 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 3: want to be like this, Like how can I be 628 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 3: be better so I don't make other people feel the 629 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: way that like my fucking dad is making me feel, 630 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's that in terms of 631 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 3: like how you can feel like you have some control 632 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 3: of the situation, that that kind of seems like it 633 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 3: makes sense, dude. 634 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 5: That's so fucking real, honest too, because I'm it's actually 635 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 5: my last day when a break, so I'm actually really 636 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 5: happy that. 637 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: I don't have to go back to work. 638 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 5: I'm happy about that yet I don't care. But dude, 639 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 5: that's such a good point because every dude, I've spent 640 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 5: with this dude every single fucking day, and for some reason, 641 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 5: I don't know, I just see myself and my dad 642 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 5: now and I'm like, I don't want to be like 643 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 5: this fucking dude. I really fucking don't. This dude's fucking stubborn, 644 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 5: his help. This dude's a baby about not everything, but 645 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 5: it's the smallest little fucking thing. And I act like 646 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 5: that sometimes too, and I'm like, dude, I don't want 647 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 5: to be around this fucking dude, like really. 648 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, dude, and that but that's the Yeah, that's 649 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: the crazy. 650 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: That's that's like, how you can be productive about it 651 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 3: is like, like you know, unfortunately, it's like, yeah, you 652 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 3: look like if you look at your dad and you 653 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 3: see what like like you just said, like, it's you. 654 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: It's in your DNA. 655 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 5: Literally literally exactly, it's. 656 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 2: Literally in your DNA. 657 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 3: But you're a smart guy, and so you have the 658 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 3: ability to consciously recognize that and then make like conscious 659 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 3: decisions to be less like that. 660 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, it's fucking crazy. I'm actually glad I 661 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 5: have therapy tomorrow. It's actually my first session. Actually it's 662 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 5: just kind of dope, So I'm cool. I'm happy about 663 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 5: that ship. But yeah, it's just like I also like 664 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 5: realize you're fucking and all those people out there that 665 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 5: worked it like nine to five, I don't know how 666 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 5: the fuck you guys do it. 667 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: That shit sucks. 668 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 5: It's like the same shit over and over again. It's 669 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 5: like the repetitanis fucking gets to you and it's fucking 670 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 5: like But for me, it's like I feel like a 671 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 5: robot man, Like I feel like I don't feel anything. 672 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 5: I feel everything until I get back home and it's 673 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 5: the same fucking cycle like every other day, every single 674 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 5: fucking time. 675 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: And I hate that ship. 676 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 3: You're night like you're you're you're like nineteen, Like, Oh, 677 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, do you know I have to 678 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 3: do something crazy? 679 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I don't I've now 680 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 2: all right, I'm getting I'm didnting. 681 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm getting do carried away by telling you to go 682 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 3: do something crazy. But I don't know, man, well, but 683 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 3: you like mechanical engineering, right. 684 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, dud, dude, dude, this is why I'm happy 685 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 5: that winter break is ending, because I don't have to 686 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 5: fucking be there, and then now we can actually do 687 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 5: what I want, what I want to do, Like I'm gonna, 688 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna look for an internships. I'm gonna 689 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 5: get really. 690 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: Busy so I don't have to be there. 691 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 5: It's all good from here. But it's just like, dude, 692 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 5: it sucking, sucks, It just really does. I just wish 693 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 5: I enjoyed being there, but I just I just don't. 694 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: Talk about your dad. You talk about your dad's shop? 695 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, just him. Do you do what people, dud? 696 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 3: Do you do you make do you make any money 697 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 3: for Did your dad pay you money or is it 698 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 3: like a you work for the family. 699 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, he pays me. I don't ask him for money, 700 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 5: but he pays me either way. 701 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmmm. Do you need do you need 702 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 2: the money from his shop? 703 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 5: Uh? You know that's a good question. I guess in 704 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 5: a way, yes, in a way. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 705 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 5: That's a good question. Oh, ship, Well, I don't know. 706 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 2: I'm not you know, I don't I don't. 707 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 6: I don't. 708 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to the question, but it's 709 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 2: a good thing to think about. 710 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 5: Yeah that's a good question. Yeah that's a good question. 711 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 5: But yeah, it just fucking sucks. I'm literally not the 712 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 5: only one. Like my brothers went to this ship too, 713 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 5: So it's just like I think we all have like 714 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 5: atsd from this ship. Mm hmm. Yeah, I don't know, dude, but. 715 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean, I mean. 716 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 5: That's that's basically it. I just like, I'm kind of 717 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 5: glad that I don't have to go to work anymore, 718 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 5: and like I can focus on what I actually want 719 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 5: to do. Yeah, man, that's what I got. 720 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 2: Well, what's your name again? 721 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 5: Max? 722 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: Max? 723 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 5: Not not the other one. 724 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: Not the other one. 725 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 2: I don't even Max. You rank you you you you rank. 726 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 3: You rank very low on the list of people who 727 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 3: when I hang up the phone from them, I'm a 728 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: little worried about what's. 729 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 2: Going to happen to them. 730 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 731 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 2: You rank low. You rank your rank low on that list. 732 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 3: I think, uh, you seem I mean, I don't know, 733 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 3: I've only been talking to you for uh seventeen minutes, 734 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 3: but I think you seem like you have a good uh. 735 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 2: A good head on your shoulders. So you know, I'm 736 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: not I'm not, I'm not worried about you. 737 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: I just. 738 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 5: I'm trying to be optimistic about everything. So just yeah, 739 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 5: just trying to do just trying to do my own thing. 740 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 5: And also the way I feel guilty leaving. Actually I 741 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 5: don't actually know how. 742 00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: To feel about that. 743 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 5: I feel guilty leaving in a way. 744 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, because yeah, I feel like there's all like, uh, 745 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: the whole like uh uh oh, I want to cut 746 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 3: off my dad because or like not cut on my dad, 747 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 3: but like you know, we had the whole thing about like, oh, well, 748 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 3: what can you do? I mean, you can stop like 749 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 3: doing shit for him. Uh, but there's guilt associated with 750 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 3: that obviously. 751 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 752 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm curious what your therapist will say about it tomorrow. 753 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I hope. So yeah, yeah, I hope. So 754 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 5: I actually had a Yeah, yeah, I hope she said 755 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 5: something about it. But yeah, and I'm reading the chat 756 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 5: fucking too mac dude that that girl was fucking like 757 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 5: fourteen at least, there's no fucking. 758 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 2: Way, Well, what do you what, there's no. 759 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 5: Dude, she didn't sound like she was twenty six. 760 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 2: Who are you talking? Who are you talking about. 761 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 5: Remember the other Max that went on the other. 762 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 2: Line, Oh, the girl with the snow thing. 763 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, that's why I put the real 764 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 5: Max because the other one was just I don't know, man, 765 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 5: that's stupid. 766 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 3: Okay, well, Max, is there anything else you want to 767 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 3: say to the people of the computer before we go? 768 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 2: H just I hope everyone is. 769 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 5: A good night and yeah. Yeah, that's basically thank you 770 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,720 Speaker 5: for taking my call. Man, appreciate it. One. 771 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 2: Hey, good luck, Max, take care YouTube? Hello, hey, hey, hey, hey, Hey, 772 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 2: what's your name? 773 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 6: Daniel? 774 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: Daniel? What's going on? Daniel? 775 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 1: Uh? 776 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 6: No? Then I bought a four hundred dollars chare today. 777 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: You bought a four hundred dollars chair today? 778 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did. 779 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 2: What kind of chair is it? 780 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 6: Oh, dude, it's called it's a Beauty rest chair. So 781 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 6: I went to Staples to get like a return and 782 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 6: it gave me a coupon, and then I walked around 783 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 6: and I went to the chair section and four hundred 784 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 6: dollars chair. And the reason that it's four hundred dollars 785 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 6: is because it has this one special feature that allows 786 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 6: me to work on my lumbar support, So it basically 787 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 6: extends it and it has this like hydraulic system in 788 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 6: the back of the chair. Never ever bought a chair 789 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 6: so expensive, And I'm really really happy that about it. 790 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 2: I like that. 791 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you're going to splurge on some 792 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 3: on some on some bullshit like that, you should be 793 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 3: happy about it, because you never want to buy a 794 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 3: four hundred dollars chair and then be pissed at yourself 795 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 3: for buying a four hundred dollars chair. 796 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, But the thing is for my back, dude, 797 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 6: you know. And I sat in it for like maybe 798 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 6: thirty minutes and it did the thing, you know, moved 799 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 6: my muscles and feels great. I'm sitting in it right now. 800 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 2: Actually pretty good, pretty good. So I guess is your 801 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 2: life perfect now that you have this chair? You know? 802 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 6: I think my daily basis would is going to be 803 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 6: a lot better because a lot of my mental energy 804 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 6: goes into how my body's feeling, you know. So I 805 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 6: feel like if I have a stronger body, I don't 806 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 6: have to worry about that as much, and I can 807 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 6: worry about the things that I don't know other people 808 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 6: worry about. There's always stuff to worry about, but I 809 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 6: don't want to have to worry about my body. I 810 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 6: want that to be but you know. 811 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean your body will eventually decay and 812 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 3: be nothing forever. But in this period of time, it 813 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 3: is funny. It is really crazy to think about how 814 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 3: fragile the human body is. 815 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 2: It's so. 816 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 3: Like we're like walking vases and we pretend like we're invincible, 817 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 3: and it's like you're one little tap on the back 818 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 3: away from you know, nothingness forever. 819 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know. I took a misstep when I was running, 820 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 6: maybe like six weeks ago, spring my ankle for the 821 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 6: first time. And I used to or I always have 822 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 6: pride in my ankles, you know. I used to jump 823 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 6: off trees as a kid and stuff, and I always 824 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 6: thought I had pretty thirty ankles. But first time I 825 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 6: ever got a pop in my ankle down there. So 826 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 6: I've had to take it a little bit slow in 827 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks. And uh, we think the 828 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 6: way that I use my body, so. 829 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: Well, that's nice that you have pride. 830 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 3: I've never heard anyone ever say in in my life 831 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 3: that they have pride in their ankles. But I've never 832 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 3: I've that's a it's a strange thing to say, but 833 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 3: I like it, and I'm actually gonna take it from you, 834 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 3: and I'm going to start I'm going to start to have. 835 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 2: Pride in my ankles. Why not? Why not have pride 836 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 2: in your ankles. 837 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I do a lot for you. 838 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 3: To do a lot for you. You have pride in your 839 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 3: in your body. I'm starting to like my body more. 840 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 2: I'm starting to like my a lot more. 841 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have been talking a whole bunch of shit 842 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 3: about that. I have a bunch of shot. Well I 843 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 3: can talk, I can talk, we can talk about we 844 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 3: can talk about it. 845 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 2: We can talk about it. Yeah, I like. 846 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 3: I'm starting to really I I think I at a 847 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 3: certain point I had con like even at like I'm 848 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 3: twenty seven. Like when I was like twenty three, I 849 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 3: thought I was gonna I thought I was dead, Like 850 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 3: I felt dead, and I was like. 851 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 2: All right, I'm dead. 852 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 3: I don't need this anymore, So let me just pack 853 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 3: it with as much everything and why I did that 854 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 3: for the past uh forever, And now I'm like, oh, 855 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 3: I gotta actually, yeah, you weren't wait, I mean you 856 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 3: were involved in that, ye. 857 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 6: I mean like one time I pulled up to your 858 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 6: LA show and I gave you a bag of honey. No, no, no, 859 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 6: it was Hawaiian barbecue chips andshai. 860 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 3: And you gave me those Hawaiian barbecue I remember those 861 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 3: Hawaiian barbecue chips. 862 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: They were good as fuck. Yeah, I remember those. 863 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah they I don't remember the chips a Hawaii, but yeah, 864 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 3: I remember those Hawaiian barbecue chips. 865 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 2: I ate the funk out of those. Those were really good. Yeah, yeah, 866 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 2: that's crazy what that was you? Yeah? 867 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 3: But I I'm kind of I'm trying to come to 868 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 3: terms with the fact that I might actually live, I 869 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 3: might actually uh live past the age of thirty, and 870 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 3: I'm realizing that I gotta Well, here's the thing here, 871 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 3: I've come to terms with a few things. I'm never 872 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 3: gonna be like a guy who like only eats healthy. 873 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 3: It's just too like. Eating delicious, salty, unhealthy food is 874 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 3: I think, just a fundamental part of who I am. 875 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm going to change that, but I 876 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 3: do what I do. I do think that I can 877 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 3: offset it by not doing it every fucking day and 878 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 3: by you know, exercising and generally trying to eat more. 879 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 3: I ate, for the first, dude, for the first time 880 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 3: in my life, yesterday, I was at a restaurant and 881 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 3: I ordered a plate of spinach, and I just ate 882 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 3: the plate of spinach. 883 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 2: It wasn't like. It wasn't like because in the my 884 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 2: encounters with spinach in the past were like, you know, 885 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 2: one leaf on top of a greasy slice of pizza, 886 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 2: something like that, you know what I mean. 887 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 3: There's my encounters with spinach like like this. This was 888 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 3: my first time hanging out with spinach one on one, 889 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like normally spinach is like 890 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 3: normally spinach is like just a part of the group. 891 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 3: Is someone I hang out within a group setting. But 892 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 3: this is our first time, you know, testing the waters 893 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 3: one on one, and we had we had a good time. 894 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 3: We didn't have a great time, but I'm like, you 895 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,760 Speaker 3: know what, it's a good that I have a relationship 896 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 3: with with this guy. I'm glad to know this person. 897 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 3: You know, they could be useful to me in the future. 898 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 3: Not in like a Machabelian sense, but you know what 899 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 3: I mean. 900 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 6: No, I feel the same way like about beats. I 901 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 6: never knew that that guy, you didn't really mess with 902 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 6: him that much. I thought that he's staying your clothes 903 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 6: a little bit too much. But uh, I learned that 904 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 6: you know, he's a super fruit, and uh, eating him 905 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 6: gives you a lot a lot of energies, like instantaneously. 906 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 6: So if you're working out, beat juice is a really 907 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 6: good thing to have. And I think that if I 908 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 6: didn't know that information, I would have been taken towards 909 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 6: beats in general. So learning about your diet, learning about 910 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 6: what the food specifically does for you, that's what's going 911 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 6: to help. 912 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 2: What do you give a fuck about? 913 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 3: Because I think the one of the main because like, 914 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 3: if you don't care about anything, you don't have anything 915 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,919 Speaker 3: to like, uh, live for or care about, you kind 916 00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 3: of start to just dig you you are you don't 917 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 3: care what you put in your body or anything like that. 918 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 2: You just really don't care. 919 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 3: But if you start to be like, oh, I actually 920 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 3: have things that I want to be alive to do. 921 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 2: What do you? What are those for you? What do 922 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 2: you what do you need your back to not suck? 923 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 2: For you to be able to do. 924 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 6: So that I can make other people's backs not suck? 925 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 6: You know you can't. 926 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 5: Are you? 927 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 2: Are you a chiropractor? 928 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 6: I wanted to. I thought about that for a while. 929 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 6: You know, I'm trying to get trying to figure out 930 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 6: my career and put it into a path that you know, 931 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,919 Speaker 6: does help me inherently do something altruistic. So right now 932 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,720 Speaker 6: I do work as a high school in a cross 933 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 6: cross country or a college in a high school cross 934 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 6: country and track. 935 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 5: And field coach. 936 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 6: I've been doing that for a couple of years and 937 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 6: I really really do like it because I get to 938 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 6: help other people. And that's the thing that you're asking me, 939 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 6: Like what's the thing that you know I really like 940 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 6: to do. And I see visual progress and people around me, 941 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 6: you know, I want to maybe do pet something like that. 942 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 6: Coaching help me get into I guess more so the 943 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 6: technical aspect of my job. 944 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 2: So he can, I can? I can? 945 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 3: I can I say something that you might find insulting, 946 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna also give you the space to defend yourself. Okay, okay, 947 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 3: So like all right, so like across like a track 948 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 3: and field coach, right. 949 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,839 Speaker 2: Like okay, Like like a football coach. 950 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 3: They're like making play like basketball football Like they're like 951 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 3: making plays and like organizing a team and everything. But 952 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 3: like if you're like a track coach, do you just 953 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 3: like yell run Like how much is there to like 954 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 3: like there's I feel like there's not as many variables, 955 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,879 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like how do you how 956 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 3: do you do that? 957 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 6: So, I mean that's that's the best part of the job, right, 958 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 6: is that I get to tell other people to run, 959 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 6: you know, if you were to break it down into 960 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 6: you know, simple terms, but you know, there's various parts 961 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 6: of the training that you have to focus on. Their 962 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 6: speed training, their threshold training, their interval training, and all 963 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 6: those things help them with different things like speed, that's 964 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 6: your I would say, that's a different car that you'd have, 965 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 6: like you could have a Civic or you could have 966 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 6: a Ferrari. You know, different cars go different speeds. Then 967 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 6: you have your threshold training and that's basically how long 968 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 6: can you go for Some cars can do that for 969 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 6: longer and sustain that for others, So you have to 970 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 6: work on that. And then you have your botwo max 971 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 6: or your interval training as basically your efficiency how much 972 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 6: oxygen can you output or I guess MPG that's the 973 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 6: other way that you could say. So, I mean, that's 974 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 6: the thing I was talking about. There's that science aspect 975 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 6: to it, because you know, there was a time where 976 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,360 Speaker 6: these you know, I work with some kids that you know, 977 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 6: were ship brains and stuff that they knew everything, and 978 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 6: you know, I expected you to know everything too and 979 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 6: have the answer for everything. And it's either I can 980 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 6: tell them I don't or I can go look for one. 981 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 6: So I got pushed into doing the ladder options. 982 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 3: You know, have you ever thought about like like a 983 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 3: whip or a rickshaw or something like that that you 984 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 3: could like, you know, yeah, like a rickshaw, Like all right, 985 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:25,919 Speaker 3: today today we will be doing exercises where like, yeah, 986 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 3: where I'm in the back of a rickshaw and you're 987 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 3: gonna run and take me to do errands. 988 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 6: I mean there's some coaches out there that will bite 989 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 6: with their kids. I do run with mine because I 990 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 6: still got the legs for it, so I might as 991 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 6: well use it while I got it. But rickshaw pulling 992 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 6: like a sled sort of option, I think that would 993 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 6: be awesome. 994 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 2: Actually, that would be sick. 995 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 3: You might get there might be human violations involved, but 996 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 3: it could be could be worth it, It could be worth it. 997 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 6: Well, you know, I'm a brown guy, so me and 998 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 6: the rickshaw might give me an extra excuse, you know, 999 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 6: maybe if they'll think i'm you know, onto something doing something. 1000 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 2: You know, do you say, do you say you're a 1001 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 2: brown guy? 1002 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a brown guy. 1003 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, then you know, take a take, you know what, 1004 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 3: I regardless of of of of your race, I think 1005 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 3: everyone deserves a rickshaw ride or two in their life. 1006 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, on a three wheeler, you know. Yeah, tricycle, No, 1007 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 6: can be cool. It's good to talk to you again. 1008 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. It's nice talking to you too. Man, 1009 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 2: it's nice talking to you too. I like this. 1010 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 3: I like the I'm happy that you have a chair 1011 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 3: that you like. I'm happy you bought a thing and 1012 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 3: you like it. 1013 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 2: It's really key. 1014 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. There was a time where I didn't have the 1015 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 6: financial stability, like even when I bought one of your sweaters. 1016 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 6: Though you know, I love this guy too much. I 1017 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 6: don't have the moneys for it, but you know he 1018 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 6: Oh god, you got me through COVID bro. 1019 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 2: That was I appreciate. I appreciate it. That's my that's 1020 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 2: my worst. 1021 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 6: Was reborn through your show. 1022 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 2: Ye, yeah, really, I appreciate that. 1023 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 3: That's well, that's my worst fear is I don't want 1024 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 3: people like buying my merch or tickets to my show 1025 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 3: if they can't afford it. That's why I like ads, 1026 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 3: because ads are like you know, I I I can 1027 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 3: have money and the people listening to the show don't 1028 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 3: have to pay any money, and it's it's a good system. 1029 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 6: It's good. Yeah, I know, because I'm sure that you 1030 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 6: have a lot of other listeners that you know, super 1031 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 6: appreciative of what you do, but just don't have those 1032 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 6: funds to show you how much they appreciate it. 1033 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 2: You know, no, no listen, no, no, no, listen, listen, listen. Yeah, 1034 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I also yeah, I don't know. I 1035 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 2: don't know. 1036 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 3: Sometimes, well, every once in a while, like someone will 1037 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 3: I'm not touring this year, but like someone I'll like 1038 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 3: if I get like a d M from someone and like, yo, 1039 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 3: I want to go to the show, but I can't 1040 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,439 Speaker 3: afford it, I'll respond and I'll be like, yo, I'm through. 1041 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 2: Let's put them on the list or something like that. 1042 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 3: But uh, but also if you're listening, also like the opposite, 1043 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 3: Uh say one time. 1044 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 6: You said you put them on the list, is it 1045 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,720 Speaker 6: like a secret show list or like. 1046 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it's like that, like so they 1047 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 3: can come to the show for free. We also also 1048 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 3: I just want to I I I just want to 1049 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 3: say the opposite is true too. So if you're listening 1050 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 3: to this and you're a multi millionaire and you just 1051 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 3: want and you want to give me a lot of 1052 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 3: money for no reason, that would. 1053 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 2: Be awesome too. Yes, that's acceptable, very acceptable. 1054 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 6: All right, Well took up the phone in ten years yet? 1055 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 2: What's your name again, sir, Daniel Daniel. 1056 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 3: I'm happy you got you sitting in a chair, you 1057 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 3: know what, Daniel, h every I want you every single day, 1058 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 3: every time you sit down in that chair, just like 1059 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 3: when you sit when you sit in it, just really 1060 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 3: feel it, just be like I love this chair. 1061 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 6: Yes, it grounds me, dude. I'm reading a book about 1062 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 6: grounding and uh I think that that really this is 1063 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 6: helping me. 1064 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 2: Yea, I have a question, Yeah, what's up? 1065 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 6: Do you need a trainer? 1066 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 2: So? 1067 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 3: Uh, I actually don't. I I don't. I appreciate that. 1068 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 3: I don't like physical I don't like uh PT, I 1069 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 3: don't like training because anything uh uh well here's like 1070 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 3: anything that's like like in my life in general. I 1071 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 3: hate rigid structures like mine. I hated fucking like all 1072 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 3: of high school, and I hate like organized class and 1073 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 3: like all that ship and anything that like becomes like 1074 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 3: a like a rigid, weird structure where like I have 1075 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 3: to fucking show up for some guy I'm I. 1076 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 2: Doesn't hate it. 1077 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 6: Yeah I do a little bit. 1078 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well go ahead, what's your what's your what's your 1079 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 3: what's your what's what's your regimen? 1080 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 6: Okay, Well it's not that my regimen is just changing 1081 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 6: the daily habits that I'm doing so that way I 1082 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 6: can improve my life in a structure way where I 1083 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 6: feel that I'm improving in one percent increments. And I 1084 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 6: don't try to enforce on other people, like you said, 1085 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 6: strict schedules. I want to make small changes in other 1086 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 6: people's lives or at least show other people things that 1087 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 6: I've learned on my path that could help other people, 1088 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 6: because I find benefit in that. And you know, in 1089 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 6: terms of like you trying to like figure out what 1090 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 6: works for you, that's also what I'm trying to learn 1091 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 6: is trying to see what works for other people so 1092 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 6: that way I can better help them. And I think 1093 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 6: that's where I'm trying trying to take my career is 1094 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 6: trying to give more personalized help to people that actually, 1095 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,919 Speaker 6: you know, want it. And I'm trying to figure out 1096 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 6: how to actualize it. I have the question that I 1097 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,919 Speaker 6: need to ask. It's just I don't know. I mean, 1098 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 6: I have thoughts in my brain like everyone else, of 1099 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 6: how to formalize it already. But you know, I'm trying 1100 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 6: to move in the direction. So I feel like helping 1101 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 6: you out would help me get a better sense of 1102 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 6: how to help others. 1103 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 2: Okay, if you can send me a video of you 1104 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 2: doing one hundred push ups in a row, then I 1105 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 2: would I'll consider hiring you as a personal trainer. 1106 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 6: Okay, sounds good. 1107 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 2: All right, what's your name again, Daniel? Daniel? Thanks for 1108 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 2: talking to me, Daniel. 1109 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 3: This is a nice Thanks for letting me rant at 1110 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 3: you about stuff, and thanks to me about stuff. And 1111 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 3: I enjoyed this. I enjoyed this interaction. Is there anything 1112 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 3: else you want to say to the people of the 1113 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 3: computer before we go? 1114 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 6: A stretch your back, lay down on the ground for 1115 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 6: like five minutes like a starfish, and just breathe and 1116 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 6: pretend that you're in a pond in my emerald forest. 1117 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 6: Take a deep breast. 1118 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 1: I like that. 1119 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 6: Relax your hips, relax at all. 1120 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:30,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much, Daniel. Enjoy your chair, My friend. 1121 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 6: Yes, of course, all right, you have a good day. 1122 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 2: You too many, but. 1123 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 3: That I somebody in the chats, somebody in the twitch 1124 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 3: chat said, I think this guy is just wants an excuse. 1125 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 2: To touch you. But I don't think that's true. I 1126 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 2: don't think that's true. 1127 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 3: I think Daniel seems like a like a stand up guy, 1128 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 3: even though he's sitting down. 1129 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 2: So that's was stupid too. It was stupid. I'm I'm 1130 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 2: not cutting. 1131 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 3: Any of this out of the podcast, but those are 1132 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 3: heads stupid. 1133 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 1134 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 3: I don't like I've never liked personal training. I like 1135 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 3: just setting up my own thing. Because here's the thing is, 1136 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to hate it. That's the thing I'm 1137 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 3: getting like, I'm if I make it like a Rigid's 1138 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 3: thing that I have to fucking do, like I like 1139 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 3: creating my own structures and whatnot. And I I, uh, 1140 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't want to hate it. I 1141 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 3: don't want to hate it, but uh, I don't know. 1142 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 3: I hope he said I want to I want to 1143 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 3: see the video. I hope that he sends me a 1144 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 3: video of him doing a hundred push ups. I would 1145 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 3: be very impressed by that. 1146 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 2: If he does, if he sends me a if he 1147 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 2: actually sent. 1148 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 3: Me a video of him doing one hundred push ups, 1149 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 3: and if he happened to live in the same if 1150 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 3: he happened, if this man, who I have no idea 1151 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:12,440 Speaker 3: where he lives, happens to send me a video of 1152 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 3: him doing a hundred pushups, and we happen to exist 1153 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 3: in the same city, at some point I would do 1154 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 3: a personal training session with him. I will say that 1155 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 3: on this podcast on record. We Shall See, We Shall Seek. 1156 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 2: Goes on the line taking your phone calls every night. 1157 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 2: Dere be Acent goes to and he's teaching you aloud 1158 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 2: in the mid of your line. But he's not really 1159 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 2: an expert.