WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Venting Session 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.320 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:15.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.639 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:26.840 Star in Frisco, blowing to the sascot ticks back today 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:33.199 and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:38.920 and Kyle Yeoman's. It is a Talking Tuesday edition of 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:43.920 Talking Cowboys, presented by Toe Stdo's helping fans get in 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:48.320 on the game, our favorite chip and our favorite tip 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.479 of Talking Cowboys. Welcome into the SWBC studios at the 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:56.440 Star in fritz Gooe alongside heck Ma Harrison, Isaiah stand back, 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.880 Rob Phillips still virtual, but we've got him on the 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:02.600 line as Chris Beam in the back. As we continue 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.040 to break down the twenty five twenty two lost to 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.480 the Arizona Cardinals. We are taking your questions. Send me 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:14.000 a question, Kyle underscore Yeomans on Twitter. I just tweeted 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.520 out the queue for everybody to release some questions, So 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.119 whenever I get those questions, we will answer those coming 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.840 up in the next segment. But gentlemen, glad to have 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.320 you back in studio? How we am? Man? It's kind 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.840 to be back in studio? Is it a relief? It 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.880 is just for a split second be away to go 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.120 back to what we did all of last year, and 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:34.720 then it come right back and then it's not like 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.400 you're stuck there. Can I just hug this area? Yeah, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:42.320 that's I feel the warm. I just want to hug 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:46.480 my little section beam. How much easier is it for 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.840 you to do a show in person, like on a 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.720 scale of one to ten, ten being like the hardest 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.240 thing to do in one being like you were just 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.440 fly high on cloud nine. I don't know the easiest 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.680 with are you guys in here? Sure? The second easiest 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.200 is how we're doing it right how we're doing it 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.760 right now. So this would be like a three, yes, 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.160 solid three, that's three in the studio. So there you go, Hey, 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.520 there you go. I like it. I'm the I'm the 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.280 pain in the ass right now. I never said that, 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.639 I'd say that. Anyway we can get off of the 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.000 three way call or whatever you can call it where 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:28.359 you have to have like a computer. Yes, and that's yeah. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.440 I hope all of Cowboys Nation at home realizes And 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.280 I know I know, they really don't because they don't 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:35.679 get to see it like we do day in and 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.560 day out. But realizes as hard as Chris Beam works 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.560 the day in, day out, week in, week out to 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.640 help provide content for not only Talking Cowboys put every 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:50.760 Dallas Cowboys podcast and then some whenever he's on the 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.600 field game game, I mean, he provides some of the 0:02:52.639 --> 0:03:00.440 best content. Did Billy he's the one Yeah, I think 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.880 he's the one person that's allowed to do that. But Isaiah, 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.160 how are you doing today? I'm good, ma, I am good. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.000 I feel good. You know, back back on the grind, 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.760 at the work, both both jobs. They're in here. Nice 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:12.839 sounds good? Yeah, right back at it. And of course, 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.320 the Cowboys have one more regular season game to go to, 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:21.480 and that's the Philadelphia Eagles on the road Saturday night football. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.160 Hey HONEYESPN, So they flexed it to Saturday. Short week 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.160 for the Cowboys, short or week. It's not a short week, 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.079 I guess, no Thursday game. Think goodness. But Rob, I'll 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.119 start with you on this. What goes into the decision 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.800 to switch it to Saturday? Why? Why are the Cowboys 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.520 being pushed up a day? Is it solely based on 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.760 TV or is there something else that's kind of lined 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.920 up with it. Well, first of all, I feel like 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.320 the kid at dodgeball that just got Blast to be picked. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.720 I'm I feel left out today. I'll be back with 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.600 you guys soon. Yeah. I think it's about TV. And 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.200 actually I was kind of surprised. Mike McCarthy said he 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.240 talked to rich Dalrypple, VP of public Relations, and they 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.240 kind of weighed in on the on the press conference 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.640 yesterday that they knew that this might be coming five 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.880 six weeks ago. Wow. So I think it is all 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.840 TV related and flexing things and finding games that have 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.680 more you know, playoff implications. In a way, this is 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:24.120 kind of a boring matchup, I guess for the networks 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.360 in a wave and though even though it's the Cowboys Eagles, 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.520 because both teams are in and it's just a matter 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.960 of seating. So but I was kind of surprised that 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.960 they thought this possibly could have been coming as early 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:40.000 as November apparently, and just in conversations being had yesterday, 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.760 it also sounded like it may be a possibility to 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.920 play on Saturday during the Wildcard round, maybe not for 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.480 the Cowboys, but also for the Eagles. It could be 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.400 either one of those sides. Do you see that as 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.920 a possibility as well for Dallas? I know the Eagles 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.400 could certainly be put in that regard too, But do 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.720 you see that as something that could be he talked 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:05.400 about later. Yeah. Absolutely, that's the other side of it too. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:06.960 And I think, you know, if you're gonna have a 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.719 short week, you'd rather have it this week than play 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.240 on Sunday against Philly and then turn around and play 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.800 Saturday night against Philly. I don't think. I think, yeah, 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.800 that's a possibility to now. Look, they're either play Saturday 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.440 or they'll play Sunday with that home playoff game. So yeah, 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.080 I think it's kind of a two prong thing. But 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.080 but we've seen the league flex these games down the stretch, 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.839 and for this particular week, I don't think it does 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.479 them a lot of favors in terms of preparation having 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.480 to play on a short week. But hey, they're gonna 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.680 play everybody, right, They're gonna load up and play. Isaiah, 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.000 you're shaking your head. I just don't. I mean, it 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.560 is what it is. It's a business, you know, it's 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.800 a business, and unfortunately the league can just pull this 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.599 pull this string whenever they feel you know, at the 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.239 dismay of the players unfortunately, but you know, you're you're 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.680 a constant professionals. So the guys they'll obviously figure it 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.840 out and no make it happen. But it's a lot 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.680 of demand on your body, man. How But that's the 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.760 other thing though, is like how much of a difference 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.320 this one day A lot? I get a Thursday to 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.560 a Saturday or Thursday to a Sunday break, But it 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.960 is that much of a difference one day, absolutely, there's 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.000 that's another day that you don't get treatment as another 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.400 day you don't get to sit in the hot selves. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.839 Another day you don't get stretching by by professional or 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.320 get a massage, just recovery, acupuncture, you know, whatever it 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.080 may be. Then in your typical regiment, that's one less 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.800 day or you know that you get for that potential weekend. 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.760 It's at the end of the season when you need 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.920 it most, you know, when your body's most beat down. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.160 So I like, again, the league has a has a 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.080 job to do. There's a business. They got to get 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:36.600 their TV money. You know, I have to do what's 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.359 best for viewership. But at the same time, it's at 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.680 the dismay of players. Well, they took care of the 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.840 decision for the Cowboys on whether they were going to 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.760 rest their players in the final week, So there it is, 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.200 you know, And I think that with with Mike McCarthy 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.760 in the press conference, he even voiced like, um, he 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.200 just said, you know, they knew five weeks in advance 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.760 that they had an opportunity possibly to play in this game. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.200 So you know, look, that's why they no matter what 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:02.840 they say, Yeah, we're going to play all of our 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.800 guys because you have to because you're now you're in 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.320 on a short week, and how imperative that day off 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.800 is two professional athletes. But you know, I just think 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.680 I look forward to this matchup, especially with everything that 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.760 happened versus the Cardinals. We want to try and get 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.840 this offense back going and this is the week and 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:23.560 you and that was going to be one of my 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.760 questions to you man. It's just you know, after the 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.840 week that we had with the offense looking dysfunctional, is 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.840 this imperative that you see as even like looking at 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.840 it from a preseason game kind of situation where at 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.800 least the starters play the first half and maybe backups 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.480 coming in second half. I think you play your guys 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.760 to the point where you feel like you've accomplished whatever 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.120 goal that you set out for that week. And I 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.040 think you need to have a sense of confidence. I 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:51.680 mean your team if that happens in the first quarter, 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.840 happs in the first quarter, if that happens at the 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.200 end of the game, at the end of the game. 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.160 But I think you need to obviously take care of 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.080 your guys, but you can't go into it scared, right. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.800 I know, that's probably the mentality that most people pretty 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.200 much have going into this matchup. You want to ensure 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:05.920 that you come out of it healthy, but at the 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:07.560 same time, you need to ensure that you come out 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.600 of it with confidence as well and feeling good about 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.680 your game plan, your execution, um, you know, and obviously 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.880 you guys, you know, feeling good about their play and 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.360 kind of going along with that. I mean, Philadelphia is 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.320 a team that's dealing with a bunch right now also, 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.200 so you could get it get to that level in 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.640 the first quarter, first half. Did you guys see the 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.280 list of masses that were placed on the COVID massive 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.320 you want to see you, I'm gonna read them out 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:35.040 because they're big names too ready, Jenard, Avery, Fletcher Cox, 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:42.320 Marcus Epps, Dallas Goddard, Nick her Big, Jordan Howard, Jason Kelsey, 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:47.600 Avante Maddox, Rodney McLeod, Boston Scott, Alex Singleton, Jack Stole, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:53.000 all on the reserve COVID nineteen list, Randall Cunningham, Bryan Dawkins, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:09:05.080 Michael Vick, Torell oh, Michael Vick naw, they're all coming crazy. 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.280 It's crazy, have you. I know, we've been through this 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.880 already and we've seen the COVID reserve list play its 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.480 impact on games like this. But I mean in terms 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.720 of key starters losing, I mean, I don't know if 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.600 the Cowboys have faced a team yet that has lost 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:25.120 that number of starters yet, Robin, Is there any way 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.200 that they get back with this new rule because of 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:33.480 the five days because even though it is a short week, Yeah, 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:35.719 I mean, that's the thing is with the five day 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:40.079 rule and testing on Monday and having these positive tests 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.719 come back for Philly, that's that's part of the new 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.439 protocol where now it's an opportunity for guys to come 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.120 back Sunday, And you know, I think maybe with this 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.320 new variant. You're seeing guys by and large, it's not 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.200 you know, it's not for everybody in the population, but 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.320 people who are lssarly who are vaccinated or clearing this 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.360 overcron quicker, you know. And I think that's so that's 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.880 part of the thinking is that maybe the Eagles could 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.400 get a large number of those guys back by Sunday. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.199 We'll see. I mean, in the past, with that delta 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.280 varya end, I'm thinking probably I'm putting on my virology 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.160 hat here that passed with the delta varia. You know, 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.360 if a guy got if a guy got the guy COVID, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:20.719 you're you're at I mean, we saw it with the 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.719 Cowboys earlier season. You're out for that week for sure. Um, 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.800 you know, there's less it seems like there's more of 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.160 a chance that you could get back sooner. So you know, 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.440 we'll see. But I mean, that's tough for Philly. They're 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.000 lucky that they clinched and took care of business last week, right, Yeah, 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.440 that's huge if if any of those guys are missing, 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.439 they're gonna be missing them. I mean, you talk to 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.239 talk about your starting center. You're a starting guard. You 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.520 your best defensive player and Fletcher Cox, guy who had 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:49.120 to pick last week against Washington. So yeah, it's all huge, 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.840 But let's let's keep talking about this Cowboys loss in Arizona. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.440 We've got Twitter questions coming up here on the other segment. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.280 You can still keep sending those in. We need a 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.360 couple more on Kyle underscore Yeomans on Twitter. But Hackman, 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.360 when you take a look back and you've now watched 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.360 the film a little bit more and you've seen and 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.200 dissected what happened on Sunday, does anything else stick out 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.840 to you that we didn't necessarily hit yesterday? You know, 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.240 I tell you what. I was in the stadium watching 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.520 the game, and a man at and T Stadium was 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:20.600 on fire again and it was rocking, And you know, 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.160 so different, man, when you're at the game versus watching 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.320 the copy on television, you know, and going back and 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.040 watching the game again. I think one of the things, 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.160 you know, much has been said about the referees from 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:36.360 the team, from coaches, from people in general in the media. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.120 One of the things that I noticed right away, and 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.800 I you know, I've always talked about how I felt 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.920 like establishing the line of scrimmage for offensive line was 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:48.640 so important. But the Cardinals did a wonderful job. Their 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.560 defensive line did and where they got away with some 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.360 things was holding up our offensive line and preventing them 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.720 from getting to the second level. Those were calls that 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.400 didn't get made, and typically defensive holding at the line 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.040 of scrimmage is one of those hard ones to catch. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.040 They don't call it a lot, but and that's why 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.840 you know Vansh Joseph obviously the DC probably planning for 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.360 it to not allow Connor Williams or Zach Mardin to 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.400 get to the next level. To get on Isaiah Simon 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.720 is to open up some of those running lanes. And 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.680 so those were some of the things that I saw. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.080 But all in all, Man I still stick with what 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.240 I said yesterday. It just looked like this offense was 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.760 out of rhythm. The penalties is really what costs them. 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:28.200 It just negated any motive, any anything that they had 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:33.480 as far as offensive synergy in that game. Greg zero line, 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.679 That was it, Greg zero line. This is something that 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.440 has to be shared up. The last concern that you 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.680 want to have going into the playoffs is worried about 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.079 can your kicker make a kick? Once you get across 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.880 the forty. It's not the concern that you want to 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:52.480 have teams that have that confidence in their kickers going 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.560 into these and going into this part of the season, 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.400 into the playoffs. You feel good? Didn't you play with Venitary? 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.240 I did not have Venitary? You didn't okay Sskowsky? Okay, 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.080 I had Gotskowski, which is he's a pretty dag going 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.800 good too. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean you you 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:07.880 want that confidence because you know these games are going 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.960 to be close. It's just it's playoff football is competitive, 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.760 it's fast, it's furious, and it usually comes down to 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.600 a driver or two. And you want the confidence knowing that, hey, 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.240 if as long as I can get to that forty 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.720 yard line we had, we can put points on the board. 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.800 And I don't think that that Dallas Nation has that 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.040 confidence right now and their kicker. I mean we lost 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.679 by how much? Three? Three? And he missed how many kicks? One? Yep, 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.240 it's exactly. You're exactly right, leaving points on the board. 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.360 It's why you lost Week one against Tampa Bay as well. 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.360 I mean he left points on the board. He lost 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.040 by two. I mean that's just plain and simple. That's 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.040 something that's cut and dry. You could say the same 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.959 thing for the interception from Jay Ran Kurs would to 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:46.920 knock three points off the board, but that's not as 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.760 cut and dry as literally kicking in and having three 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.880 points or not having three d J. So having that 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:57.720 that sort of security would be nice in a kicker. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.360 But that's also why NFL kickers stick around for so 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.240 long if they are automatic, and for the most part, 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.000 Greg's urline has been automatic throughout his career. Yeah, I 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.559 wouldn't necessarily say he's been that. At least this year 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.040 he's been good. He hasn't been automatic. There's a difference. 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:13.520 What do you call it? What have you done for 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.720 me lately? League? That is? And I want to go 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.640 back to the penalties that you had. I saw this 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.880 this stat from Jeff Cavanaugh actually on Twitter, and he 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.840 said Cowboys first four drives driving stalled after a holding 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.800 call from Tyrant driving, then stalled after beatish false start. 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.400 Dak then had that miss over the top to Cooper, 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:36.840 drive stalled, and then Lyell was a hold I mean 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.840 stalled that drive as well, and then the touchdown drive 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.000 on the last one. Whether it didn't have any penalties 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:46.320 in the first half, So that's I mean, that's about it. 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.600 Penalty wise, Where does this Where does that come from? 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.640 And I asked you this. I believe I'm the postgame show, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.440 but where do you Where does that start? Does that 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:57.240 start with the coaching status? To start with personnel? It's coaching. 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.080 I mean, I think most problems started with the coaching 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.640 staff and again as being being able to position your 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.640 guys to be in the best spot possible to handle 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.760 their assignments correctly without being compromised. And I think what 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.400 happened this past game was a lot of guys were 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:16.240 positionally compromised um and kind of put in bad situations 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:20.200 to where the recourse is gonna be holding, right, you're 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.240 gonna end up holding, You're gonna end up getting these penalties. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.680 Not pre snap penalties, that's something totally different. But when 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.680 it comes to these holding penalties though, that was an issue. 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.360 When you look at the defensive side of the ball 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.160 and you look at you know, the special teams national right, 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.240 that's face guarding, right, some of those things that I mean, 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.800 it's just blatant plays. And that's why I don't allow 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.280 guys to just say, oh, we were playing two teams 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.040 in the BS you know, you didn't. You didn't put 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.840 yourself in the right position. You were Hey, Tyrn Smith, 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.360 you were holding right, your your feet were a little slow, right, 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.160 you just got back. We get it. But it was 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.320 a holding right lyle called us holding right. Be honest, 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.680 you're out of position right, Your leverage is bad. All 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.360 these all these guys that were that had blatant penalties. 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.960 You can't point the finger, ask somebody else and say hey, 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.960 whoa me? And that's and that's kind of where I 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.600 come out with that. You want toss it? Yeah, Rob, 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:13.440 what you got on that? I totally agree. It's probably 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.800 not a popular opinion among Cowboys Nation. But I just 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.720 watching that game, and I watched it on TV as well, 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.800 and like I didn't I didn't get the sense that 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:28.000 the officiating was reminiscent of Thanksgiving, where it was just 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.200 like my goodness, you know, like the game moved along. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.720 I know, Mike McCarthy, I know yesterday said herky jerky 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:38.720 about ten times. Yeah, the penalty stall drives. I mean, 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.680 there's no doubt about it. But I do think Isaiah's right, 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.640 like there was there were some clear calls that I 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.920 don't think you can debate those that look they missed, 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.200 they missed the fumble at the end. That was a 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.280 huge miss, no question about it. But again I said 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.920 this yesterday. They have been one of the leading penalized 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:57.680 teams in the league this year. It's been a problem, 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.120 and it's not just the referees. It's something they've got 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.720 to correct. One more thing on zero line. Jerry was 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.200 on the fan this morning and said he was asked 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.800 about his miss in the game and said, I think 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.639 the most important part of a kicker is consistency, and 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.359 it's not consistently missing. And that was the end of 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.119 So they need more from Greg's airline. But you know what, 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.639 at this point the season, like, who's a better option 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:22.680 right now? The guy's been the league for ten years. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.480 You just want him to turn it around in playoff time. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.760 You should see the reaction from Isaiah in studio right now. 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.520 That's not just the general manager, that's the owner. That's 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.600 that's a hot seat. Yeah statement right then, Yeah, kind 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.480 of reminder. Did you see what Mike Zimmer said about 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:43.600 Kellen mon after So, Yeah, that was that was harsh. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.119 It was savage see him every day. That hurt me. 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:50.480 That hurt me personally. Oh yeah, m kellen mon, that's 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.000 my guy. Yeah. Yeah. Basically they lost thirty seven to 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.679 ten because Man had to start in front of Kirk Cousins. 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.359 I don't think Kirk Cousins could have saved them in 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:02.000 this game anyways. But they asked the reporter asked Mike Himmer, uh, 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.440 would you like to see a wilk at Kelly mom 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.359 next week? And he goes not particularly. They were like 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.400 wait why not? And he was like, I see him 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:15.760 every day. Damn yeah, that's every day after this week, right, 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.840 Man's that was tough. It was um, but just picking like, 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.280 I got a different view than you guys about the 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.240 whole game and the officials and all of that. I 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.320 just feel like, look, if you play football long enough, 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.840 you know that they could call holding on every play. Okay, 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.040 you could call leading with the helmet on every play, 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.679 and there are some obviously, you know, holding it doesn't 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.439 always have to be egregious, just like PI, you know, 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:41.919 not getting your head turned around. It's it's all subjective 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.000 to what the referees are seeing where the ball is. 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.080 I mean, there was some there was a Mark Cooper 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:47.879 in the end zone where it was clearly a PI 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.560 that didn't get called the situations like that where these 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.560 guys are giving it their all for one hour and 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.520 they come back and they've played this game and they 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:59.160 they've been in situations where they've seen that particular play 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.359 be called has pass interference and they don't get it. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.439 That I just said talked about the defensive lineman holding 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.560 the offensive lineman up. That holding call isn't called the 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:12.080 one on Lael Collins dog. They have been worse holding 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.639 penalties called in the league. And that was like, you know, 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.560 you just did one to ten, that dude, that was 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.640 a one, a negative three, you know, but they call 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.800 it anyway. And and what it does is it's stemings 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.760 where your drive and it makes it takes a third 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.960 and short now to a third and long, and it 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.920 takes you out of position. They have legitimate gripes, as 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.159 does everybody that say, you look, you can't be pissed 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.240 off about where what the referees did, but there's a 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:39.720 point in the game where you look at it and 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:41.640 you go with them. We go back to what Rob 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.240 was talking about in the Las Vegas game, where you've 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.600 seen this thing cost you a game and penalties being called, 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:50.080 and then it always seems to go against you. So 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.840 that's just frustration boiling over from these guys. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:57.879 I don't. I don't disagree real quick, like sorry, go ahead, 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.960 I there, sorry you good b. I was gonna piggyback 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:04.000 on what heck said. I think there's another game too 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.320 that they won, the Patriots game, where it was like, man, 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.520 nothing's going their way with some of the calls and 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.600 and it again, there's no conspiracy here, but I understand 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.040 why players get frustrated because I think that's probably three 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.639 games now where they're like, God, can we catch a break? 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:22.080 But the bottom line is like, ultimately, you gotta play 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.920