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Speaker 6: How you guys doing better than I'm doing? Good welcome Chris. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we'll give jesse Ment a co I'm dying. At least
Speaker 6: you made show. I died last week and didn't make
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Speaker 4: So they will call you soft and everything.
Speaker 6: Dude, I hadn't been I don't know if it was us.
Speaker 6: You are not a machine, Jesse neither am I. You
Speaker 6: would not have wanted me on the show Thursday situations.
Speaker 5: Notting Rise running all over the microphone would not have
Speaker 5: been good.
Speaker 6: But it's only one day, one day, and I was good.
Speaker 5: So uh may do y'all remember a we'll get I
Speaker 5: want your take on part of this.
Speaker 6: But do y'all remember? And it probably happens every year.
Speaker 4: You just don't realize it.
Speaker 5: This many big names flying around trading teams and getting
Speaker 5: cut and a.
Speaker 8: Lot of receivers for sure.
Speaker 5: Well that's why I was gonna bring up, what is
Speaker 5: your take on why so many big name, big contract
Speaker 5: receivers or flat out just getting cut because you know,
Speaker 5: people don't want to take on their contracts as it is,
Speaker 5: there that much talent now coming out of college, that
Speaker 5: receiver depth is better than.
Speaker 6: It used to be, and it's easy to get you.
Speaker 5: Know, a number one two or is the game changing.
Speaker 5: Is the salary cap effect the words should take on that.
Speaker 7: I think the answer is yes to all of the above.
Speaker 7: I think the talent has definitely grown. When you think
Speaker 7: about now, look at how many kids in high school
Speaker 7: are doing private training, one on one training. The development
Speaker 7: of the game is happening at a much faster rate.
Speaker 7: So you're getting more college ready players. And then you're
Speaker 7: getting into college and now those guys aren't taking as
Speaker 7: long as it used to take to get ready, so
Speaker 7: you just have you just have an accelerated production that
Speaker 7: it is happening in the skill positions, and the kids
Speaker 7: are getting bigger too, bigger, stronger, faster, like across the board.
Speaker 7: And then the second thing is when they come into
Speaker 7: the league, you're starting to see more now of the system. Right,
Speaker 7: we used to make fun of the system quarterback or
Speaker 7: the system. Look at what the Niners have done the last.
Speaker 4: Couple of years.
Speaker 7: It's like plug a player in here, he runs this,
Speaker 7: we run this system. If he does not need to do.
Speaker 7: In this system, everything flows and everything functions, and so
Speaker 7: you're seeing more of that. You're seeing more of the
Speaker 7: new age coaches come in taking a lot of the
Speaker 7: think workout, taking a lot even like a lot of
Speaker 7: the skill workout of Hey, just be where you're supposed
Speaker 7: to be when you're supposed to be there and the
Speaker 7: progression of this route and you'll be open.
Speaker 4: So is that a.
Speaker 5: Testament of how far ahead of the game Bill Belichick
Speaker 5: was because in there what he used to do. Yeah,
Speaker 5: take player A, B, C, D yes, and then put
Speaker 5: him in here and they're still gonna get this many yards.
Speaker 7: And those teams who develop those type of dynasties you
Speaker 7: look at it and it's it's it's only until the
Speaker 7: rest of the league catches up and then you're no
Speaker 7: longer the hot shot again. And we saw that with
Speaker 7: the Shanahans, the mc veigs.
Speaker 6: You become the old guy with the hot shot.
Speaker 7: Young you gotta event you, so you gotta find other
Speaker 7: ways to become hot and so and so. Now teams
Speaker 7: are just looking at it and saying, I can find
Speaker 7: the next guy, and it's it's you. And then you
Speaker 7: end up having the big names are casualties of doing
Speaker 7: business because yes, we signed you, and we we we
Speaker 7: we talk about the Eagles a lot and how they're
Speaker 7: doing business. Eventually they'll have to pay the piper. They're
Speaker 7: winning now, but in a couple of years you'll see,
Speaker 7: oh man, they had to get rid of Saquon, they
Speaker 7: had to get rid of Davante, and they had to
Speaker 7: get rid of aj because you just come to a
Speaker 7: point where you can't push that bill down the road anymore.
Speaker 7: The window of you winning with at that cost, uh
Speaker 7: is it's not feasible anymore. So you start seeing teams
Speaker 7: let go of these guys and and just basically no
Speaker 7: one wants to say it anymore.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: It's it's it's kind of like a forbidden word grouping.
Speaker 7: But it's a soft rebuild, like the Niners are going
Speaker 7: through a soft rebuilt. That's what they're going through right now.
Speaker 7: They've had some major cups. And when you're when you
Speaker 7: have a quarterback, and this is the key part of
Speaker 7: it all, when you have a quarterback on a rookie deal,
Speaker 7: that gives you think about it, in Esse, its fifty
Speaker 7: million dollars a year.
Speaker 4: To play with.
Speaker 7: When you think about it, when you have a quarterback
Speaker 7: who's on a rookie deal, I have an extra fifty
Speaker 7: million dollars that I can go and do what I
Speaker 7: need to do with and then it comes to a
Speaker 7: point in time where now you're looking up and you're saying,
Speaker 7: uh oh, like Washington, they're able to do what they're
Speaker 7: able to do because Jaydon Daniels costs a very little
Speaker 7: bit about a money amount of money towards their overall
Speaker 7: salary cap.
Speaker 5: And it just amplifies that when you have a rookie
Speaker 5: quarterback that's really good.
Speaker 7: That's really good, it helps you right right, Or they
Speaker 7: did it with rock Party when brock Perty was playing.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a rookie deal.
Speaker 8: That's part of why they're cutting everybody. They're gonna him.
Speaker 7: They got to pay him. They have to make a decision.
Speaker 7: This is the guy we're gonna go forward with. So
Speaker 7: we got to make room because if we're gonna do
Speaker 7: a deal now or in the next year, it's gonna
Speaker 7: cost us forty five to fifty to fifty five million
Speaker 7: dollars to play quarterback in the National Football League, and
Speaker 7: so we can't keep all those big names around and
Speaker 7: pay him. So it's like, let's start our soft rebuild now,
Speaker 7: Let's go through our little bit of hiccups now, and
Speaker 7: then next year we'll come out the gates and we'll
Speaker 7: be signing guys and doing guys because you know you'll
Speaker 7: sign them, and once you sign them, the money gets
Speaker 7: pushed towards the back of the contract. So you'll sign them.
Speaker 7: He'll have a big time for you. He'll have a
Speaker 7: big time signing bonus, but it'll count pennies towards the
Speaker 7: salary cap of that year, which means I can now
Speaker 7: go and play back in that pool again. I can
Speaker 7: go play in the pool of getting those players out
Speaker 7: of YadA YadA, and then it'll come to roost.
Speaker 4: In a couple of years.
Speaker 7: So it's it's a combination of all of those things
Speaker 7: being yes, okay, Kurt, Yeah.
Speaker 5: How do you feel about what the Cowboys have done
Speaker 5: in free agency so far?
Speaker 6: Well, keeping guys, letting guys go.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think we all there's certain guys.
Speaker 8: You know, We're nice to have Jordan Lewis here. I
Speaker 8: don't know if ten million a year was worth that.
Speaker 8: Same with DeMarcus Lawrence. He's got a real good deal
Speaker 8: of Seattle. It'd be nice to have him. They're there's
Speaker 8: there got some big holes to fill, especially on the
Speaker 8: defensive line, cornerbacks, some other spots. I like that they're
Speaker 8: adding depth, but I don't feel like they've really other
Speaker 8: than maybe linebacker, I don't think they've really added any
Speaker 8: impact players. So they're kind of doing what they said
Speaker 8: they were going to do, you know, just selectively relectively
Speaker 8: aggressive and just kind of I guess the plan is
Speaker 8: they're gonna They've opened their setting their SUPs up so
Speaker 8: they can grab impact players in the draft. Right now.
Speaker 8: It's got the fan base a little worried. I think.
Speaker 5: It's like it feels like business as usual, and business
Speaker 5: has not been good for twenty years.
Speaker 8: Well that's the thing.
Speaker 4: This is the little draft me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, this has been the the roadmap for them
Speaker 8: for years.
Speaker 5: And you're you're going and getting a bunch of guys
Speaker 5: that nobody else wanted, that never lived up to their potential,
Speaker 5: that you're thinking can fill holes because at one time
Speaker 5: they were first round talent or second round talent.
Speaker 6: It just feels like the same old thing at a.
Speaker 5: I think a very pivotal point in this franchise. I
Speaker 5: feel like you're losing your fan base. I feel like
Speaker 5: everybody's just kind of ho, hume whatever. And I feel
Speaker 5: like the business model is going the same way it
Speaker 5: used to. When you need you need to maybe, you know,
Speaker 5: whatever happens on the field happens on the field, right, Like,
Speaker 5: I feel like maybe they're over evaluating the talent that's
Speaker 5: on the roster again because they're not going and making
Speaker 5: the re signing guys.
Speaker 6: That are good players, right, but they're.
Speaker 5: Not like, oh see you talked about it, not not
Speaker 5: really a twenty million dollar player, but homegrown somebody, you like,
Speaker 5: somebody that's familiar with the system, somebody that's here probably
Speaker 5: overpaid a little bit or a lot, however you look
Speaker 5: at it. You know, I think all the rest of
Speaker 5: the resigned guys, the special teams, you want to keep
Speaker 5: them intact because that was a shining point, you know,
Speaker 5: last year you got that back. By the way, shout
Speaker 5: out to Cavante Turpin, probably the richest man in Monroe,
Speaker 5: Louisiana now.
Speaker 6: Shout out.
Speaker 5: But I mean, it just feels like, you know, and listen,
Speaker 5: if I was upstairs, this was my organization, I.
Speaker 6: Would I would probably be the same way. This is
Speaker 6: the way I do business, this is my team, this
Speaker 6: is the way I'm going to run it.
Speaker 4: I would hope you wouldn't.
Speaker 5: Eventually, We're I'm gonna get there. But at the same time,
Speaker 5: it's like I think you just as a fan, you
Speaker 5: just want to be you want to shake up, you
Speaker 5: want to you know no.
Speaker 8: I think Jerry even said it last week that you
Speaker 8: know there are planning on these young guys and these
Speaker 8: injured guys coming back and stepping up. And that's a
Speaker 8: lot of hope, a.
Speaker 6: Lot of hope.
Speaker 5: And I tell you what if you if you miss
Speaker 5: on the draft, because it looks like where you're going
Speaker 5: with running back, you're all in on the draft, whether
Speaker 5: you go early or whatever, because you know Rico the
Speaker 5: only and I don't remember I don't remember a time
Speaker 5: here where running back was this uncertain. You always had
Speaker 5: somebody that was familiar with Rico gone and you you
Speaker 5: what's it Williams right, which is basically the numbers look
Speaker 5: like kind of a Rico two point oh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you're not familiar with that's a tar Hill
Speaker 6: I'm talking about. That's tough.
Speaker 4: You know, you know a tar Hill biased.
Speaker 5: So you're putting all your eggs in a in a draft.
Speaker 5: It looks like a draft basket that you haven't been.
Speaker 6: You haven't hit on. You definitely didn't hit last year.
Speaker 8: You you last two years ago yeah.
Speaker 5: Right, So if you don't hit on this, you're talking
Speaker 5: about disaster for your franchise if that's where you're going,
Speaker 5: and so far in free agency that seems like where
Speaker 5: you're going.
Speaker 4: Yet.
Speaker 7: Jerry made the comment this offseason and I guess this
Speaker 7: will this will be the comment. Last year it was
Speaker 7: all in. This year will be the selectively be aggressive.
Speaker 7: And then he talked about the other day it was
Speaker 7: about with the last Wednesday about we don't we don't
Speaker 7: have any holes, we don't have any voids. These are
Speaker 7: avoid fillers. Okay, this with these are you can say
Speaker 7: you don't have any voids. You got voids. You avoided linebacker,
Speaker 7: You still got a void that corner, you got void
Speaker 7: at running back. You have avoided second wide receiver like
Speaker 7: you got voids. You still probably have some voids up
Speaker 7: front the defensive line, and you can probably afford to
Speaker 7: bring in maybe another offensive line or two.
Speaker 4: You got voids.
Speaker 7: And these players I get while they're doing it, like
Speaker 7: the move, I think, who was it? Denzel Washington says,
Speaker 7: never confuse movement with progress, and so they're making moves
Speaker 7: to feel the void.
Speaker 4: But these aren't progressive moves, none of them.
Speaker 6: These are moves you have to make to operate the franchise.
Speaker 7: Is a move that you have to make to actually
Speaker 7: play legal football, ye, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: Like to actually have eleven dudes on offense, have eleven
Speaker 7: dudes on defense, and have eleven dude.
Speaker 6: And not get embarrassed on Sunday.
Speaker 9: People don't realize they only had like forty guys on
Speaker 9: the right roster, so you actually have to go sign.
Speaker 9: You gotta sign to make a roster. They allow you
Speaker 9: to have nineties right now, they got like forty, so
Speaker 9: you got fifty guys to go.
Speaker 6: Thanks for putting that in perspective. You know, I'm just
Speaker 6: letting y'all know.
Speaker 4: Ye, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: At some point, you gotta get you gotta get guys.
Speaker 7: You have to get guys on this roster to have
Speaker 7: a legal roster to go actually go and play football
Speaker 7: and practice football and do all the team things that
Speaker 7: you need to do, you know, weekend and week out
Speaker 7: during the offseason.
Speaker 4: So I get it. I understand it.
Speaker 7: And I don't know if this was on purpose by you, Kurt,
Speaker 7: or it just happened that way, all right, But there's
Speaker 7: this emphasis that we keep seeing former first round for
Speaker 7: the first round, former first round, former first round, former
Speaker 7: first round.
Speaker 8: Like like when you put on this list, like that
Speaker 8: was interesting.
Speaker 7: That's a telling sign, like like we are the I
Speaker 7: call it will to spend the block franchise. If we
Speaker 7: like the guy doing the draft seven years ago, we
Speaker 7: like their traits six years ago, five years.
Speaker 6: We think we could do better than somebody.
Speaker 7: We'll spend the block on them quick, you know. And
Speaker 7: so when you hear former first round pick, former first
Speaker 7: round pick, just want to let people know, you never
Speaker 7: hear former first round pick over players that were actually
Speaker 7: lived up to that, to that billing.
Speaker 4: You don't hear that, You don't.
Speaker 7: You don't hear former first round pick for guys who
Speaker 7: actually lived up to it. Now you get released, you know,
Speaker 7: seven eight years out down the road.
Speaker 5: But you lived up to that first Michael Parsons described
Speaker 5: as a former first round.
Speaker 4: You know, you don't hear it. You just don't.
Speaker 5: You don't hear it because you hear them by their
Speaker 5: first name, Micah, and everybody in the league knows who
Speaker 5: they are.
Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying, Like like no one says
Speaker 7: no one says former first round pick Joey Bosa.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: This is Joey Bosa, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Like so that that's a telling sign to me. And
Speaker 7: and the Cowboys are they always they always looking for
Speaker 7: the traits. It's always through the traits plus reclamation project,
Speaker 7: you know, for affordable price measurable.
Speaker 6: Is this the kind of guy we like other the traits?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 7: Like they they they measure a certain way, they do
Speaker 7: a certain thing, and we like them in the draft
Speaker 7: and they will come out in the draft. And so
Speaker 7: all those things balled up. And one is what you
Speaker 7: see in the newly acquired players the Cowboys have. And
Speaker 7: we can we can kind of go through them and
Speaker 7: I can give you my thoughts. I watched I had
Speaker 7: a chance to watch some of them, not all of them,
Speaker 7: and I had to watch all of them extensively, just
Speaker 7: kind of peeked in and uh, and yeah, we can
Speaker 7: we can talk about them and see, I guess give
Speaker 7: a grade to it or what happened.
Speaker 8: Just some of those grades.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's get in. Do you still have that? Pull
Speaker 6: that up and when we come back, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 5: And by the way, Osa, you are now a twenty
Speaker 5: million dollar player.
Speaker 6: Despite what Jesse said.
Speaker 4: What's wild is you are he actually left money on
Speaker 4: the table from what the markets looking like right now.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he and his anything was like,
Speaker 4: let's just get a deal. He's actually left. He could
Speaker 4: have been more of a Richard.
Speaker 6: He could have been more of a richard, have been
Speaker 6: a twenty two million, could have been easily. Maybe that's
Speaker 6: not important to him.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's not.
Speaker 6: Maybe quality of life and where you're at and they been.
Speaker 6: Maybe he has the inside track.
Speaker 7: And what you can do with twenty that you can't
Speaker 7: do with twenty two. It's a twenty two twenty whatever
Speaker 7: was great?
Speaker 6: Point that extra two million when you're already making twenty.
Speaker 9: Sence where he's signing Texas is Yeah, I'm just saying
Speaker 9: that actually actually brought that up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard at his interview he brought that up.
Speaker 4: Jacksonville might give you some money.
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Speaker 4: Of trivia boys.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yea yeah, I got something for you. Let's
Speaker 6: do trivia first.
Speaker 9: Someone brought this up to me, uh, a couple of
Speaker 9: shows ago.
Speaker 6: Did you research it to make sure it was accurate?
Speaker 13: It was accurate?
Speaker 6: Okay, good, Okay?
Speaker 13: Can you name the players left from the Garrett error?
Speaker 13: The players left from the Garrett era? So one, coach,
Speaker 13: you go, how many years ago was that?
Speaker 6: Five?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Five? How many are there? I'm not gonna tell you.
Speaker 7: Zero Then DAK, c J Goodwin, CJ good Ones, two,
Speaker 7: DAK CD, Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 13: Donovan Wilson CD, And that's it.
Speaker 6: Ced didn't play for Garrett.
Speaker 9: He was drafted in twenty twenty, which was the COVID year,
Speaker 9: and that was McCarthy's first draft.
Speaker 6: That's it. Three guys, three guys left.
Speaker 7: Wow, Dak CJ and Donovan Donovan.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 6: It's a good trivia question, Chris. Thanks appreciate that.
Speaker 4: And Dak's now your longest tenure cowboy, right yep, I.
Speaker 8: Mean years ten twenty sixteen.
Speaker 9: So being I'll be interesting to see when training camp
Speaker 9: starts because that's when they come in five out what
Speaker 9: the youngest team in the NFL is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that will be interesting. Uh, Jordan Lewis, DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 5: not surprised by either one of those guys leaving or
Speaker 5: for what.
Speaker 8: They signed for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was shocked that Jordan Lewis got that.
Speaker 4: I'm happy for Jordan. I was shocked that they got
Speaker 4: ten Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah. They had said they wanted him back. They
Speaker 8: were trying to get him, but they just weren't going to.
Speaker 4: Go that high.
Speaker 5: Would you all pay ten million for him? Considering you
Speaker 5: really have one corner right now that you can depend on.
Speaker 8: And he's ten is tough, thirty at his age, and.
Speaker 5: I mean he was your nickel corner.
Speaker 4: If I don't think I signed Jordans.
Speaker 7: If I knew that my team was a serious contender,
Speaker 7: I might have signed Jordan Man if I knew that
Speaker 7: my team was a serious contender. I might have done
Speaker 7: could have been that one piece of I might have
Speaker 7: done two for twenty.
Speaker 8: Really yeah, see that's said one person I read speculated
Speaker 8: that same day they signed Marcus Marquis Bell. Could he
Speaker 8: be your slot guy having played some linebacker, he's bigger?
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
Speaker 8: He's not bigger knowledge no.
Speaker 7: No, not not the cover receivers. I mean Jordan, what
Speaker 7: Jordan did in the slot you're talking about. You know,
Speaker 7: he went up against some premium guys, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, And he battled against some premium gods. I
Speaker 7: don't I don't think Marquis Bell is versatile. But he's
Speaker 7: more versatile in the sense of, you know, coming down
Speaker 7: in the box, you know, tackle running backs, cover some
Speaker 7: tight ends. But to have to cover a receiver, you know,
Speaker 7: forty yards running across the field, Yeah, he'd be he'd
Speaker 7: be a he'd be in a blender, he would be.
Speaker 5: So DeMarcus went to Seattle, right, Yeah, three years forty
Speaker 5: two million, not to aiden dirty.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis h Jacksonville three years thirty million, a doga
Speaker 5: same place, two years seven million. Ricos rised me a
Speaker 5: little bit the money that he got Carolina one year,
Speaker 5: six point twenty five million.
Speaker 7: That's okay, So the six point twenty five is up
Speaker 7: to Incent Events. Yeah, it's more like it's.
Speaker 4: Like like what what they gave Javonte?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that surprised me that they for what they spent
Speaker 8: on Javonte, why they didn't bring you?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then Chauncey Ghoston signed with the Giants three years,
Speaker 5: nineteen and a half million.
Speaker 7: One thing about DeMarcus Lawrence, boy, he don't he don't
Speaker 7: miss when it comes time to going to the bank.
Speaker 6: No, he don't miss. That's his what third big contract?
Speaker 4: He don't miss.
Speaker 6: And he's been hurt a lot.
Speaker 4: He don't him.
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 7: David Cant is the cantor so when whenever it is,
Speaker 7: in fact, all of David Cat's content clients, right, Lawrence
Speaker 7: Lewis No, yeah, Lawrence Lewis.
Speaker 4: Rico was in there, Dad was in there too, right yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7: But when it comes to whenever David Canton, DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 7: they see out of eye when it come to them
Speaker 7: checks because he don't miss with it. Coud of to
Speaker 7: Marcus lower good Fee, they go to the bank together.
Speaker 5: Well, happy for all those guys, as people sad to
Speaker 5: see all of them go from a team perspective. Then
Speaker 5: re signed guys of course, the punter Anger two years
Speaker 5: six point four million, Cavante Turpin three years, thirteen and
Speaker 5: a half, your long snapper three years four point four
Speaker 5: to five million, Marquise Bell get to see him back
Speaker 5: three years nine million.
Speaker 6: CJ.
Speaker 5: Goodwin, which has been here for seems like he's fifty
Speaker 5: years old.
Speaker 8: Wow is one year when he got here.
Speaker 5: One point four million and Osa four years eighty million.
Speaker 8: So I wanted to get Nate's opinion on this because
Speaker 8: he was preaching, we need all those guys back, and
Speaker 8: we needed Jordan Goldston. Don't do like last year we
Speaker 8: lost ormstrong and foulering man. They did exactly.
Speaker 5: So would you just looking at who the newly acquired
Speaker 5: guys are the guys they let go? These are what
Speaker 5: you said gap fillers, right, would you have left some
Speaker 5: gaps open to get some of these guys back and
Speaker 5: move this money around?
Speaker 6: Like DeMarcus. I don't I love DeMarcus.
Speaker 5: I don't know physically what he's got left because he's
Speaker 5: you know, with his back problem he's had, and then.
Speaker 4: What is it fot foot.
Speaker 5: Not good problems to have as a defensive end, so
Speaker 5: that money's a little bit steep. But these other guys
Speaker 5: I would have thought you would have for it's a
Speaker 5: lot of money for these guys, but looking at who
Speaker 5: you signed, does it balance out? Would you try to
Speaker 5: keep your own guys like Nate said, or would you
Speaker 5: do you think it's good.
Speaker 6: To kind of move on and try some different.
Speaker 7: Out of the five that we lost, I think three
Speaker 7: I would have I would have liked to keep. I
Speaker 7: would have liked to keep Jordan, Rico and Gholson. Those
Speaker 7: three I would have liked to keep if you could
Speaker 7: have somehow, some way. And I don't even know if
Speaker 7: it's really like money, because even when you're sitting right now,
Speaker 7: the Cowboys, yes they got they got some more some
Speaker 7: more depth. But I don't know if the replacements are
Speaker 7: better than what we lost, right you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 7: I don't know if that's like Javonte is to me
Speaker 7: and Kurt has the PFF grades for if you if
Speaker 7: you if you value that for whatever you value that
Speaker 7: for Javonte is not better than Rico.
Speaker 4: He's not. He's not.
Speaker 7: Maybe he's a better pass catch out of the backfield,
Speaker 7: but he's not a better running back than Rico. I
Speaker 7: don't know what Gabe Jones is. I mean, they'll have
Speaker 7: some competition there. But if that was the case, you know,
Speaker 7: whether it's guard or whether it's tackle. You know with Tuma, do.
Speaker 8: You like that these are all like one year deals,
Speaker 8: a bunch of most of them, and it's just like
Speaker 8: a quick.
Speaker 4: That's what lets me know these are like fillers.
Speaker 7: These are avoid fillers because you don't have any long term plans.
Speaker 4: And and let me also add this to the mix.
Speaker 7: Just because these guys are signed today, that don't mean
Speaker 7: they make this football team. Like there's a there's a
Speaker 7: none of this money, like it's really really guaranteed money
Speaker 7: until you get onto the roster after sept whatever the
Speaker 7: September date is that you add to the roster and
Speaker 7: that money becomes guaranteed. Whatever you get in your signing bonus,
Speaker 7: that's you know whatever that those guys who have some
Speaker 7: signing bonuses, but.
Speaker 4: It is not.
Speaker 7: This newly acquired list are a bunch of guys who,
Speaker 7: like Chris and I was saying earlier, we gotta feel
Speaker 7: a team. You gotta put guys on the team to
Speaker 7: feel the team. Doesn't mean that they're going to actually
Speaker 7: be here when we break camp and we start our
Speaker 7: seating off in September. That that's not a None of
Speaker 7: these guys are Exton Stone and so we'll see, well,
Speaker 7: we'll see what they have. You know, like I said,
Speaker 7: what it what it lends you is I don't have
Speaker 7: to go into the draft with dire needs like I
Speaker 7: don't if if I go into the draft and I
Speaker 7: can't really get the linebacker around want, I'm not too
Speaker 7: tore up about it because I got two linebackers already.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 7: I suppose if you go into the draft and you
Speaker 7: don't have you all you got is a Maris on
Speaker 7: your football team right now, and and uh, what's the
Speaker 7: guy who was in the doghouse last year?
Speaker 4: Damon Clark.
Speaker 7: Now you're going to the draft and you almost kind
Speaker 7: of it's a pressing need now you may reach you
Speaker 7: may have to kind of really go above and beyond
Speaker 7: and get a guy because you don't have any guys.
Speaker 4: These guys they're.
Speaker 8: I don't know, they still be running back And yeah, Cornery.
Speaker 7: No no, no, You're still going to draft those guys for sure.
Speaker 7: But again I am I Jerry said it about you know,
Speaker 7: I was a little bit over ahead of my skis
Speaker 7: when I drafted a first round left tackle and I
Speaker 7: just threw them out there and thought it was gonna work.
Speaker 7: So you want to kind of have some guys in
Speaker 7: the position if if that, if that young fella ain't
Speaker 7: quite coming along like you need them to, because it's
Speaker 7: a lot of pressure on your organization to going to
Speaker 7: the draft and saying, well, I need rounds one, two and.
Speaker 4: Three to hit. Yeah, like that's pressure.
Speaker 7: Like I need one, two and three to be instant, impact,
Speaker 7: productive human football players today. Now, normally you feel that
Speaker 7: way about one right one you're kind of saying, like,
Speaker 7: all right, you know, I'm at twelve one, should come
Speaker 7: in here and be able to go. You feel that
Speaker 7: way two and three you kind of you know, the
Speaker 7: percentage goes down a little bit, but you're still kind
Speaker 7: of feeling a little.
Speaker 4: Bit hopeful forward. But the pressure is on.
Speaker 7: Now that boy we miss on our last two drafts,
Speaker 7: so to speak, not so to speak, you missing your
Speaker 7: last two drafts. You know early on, I gotta get
Speaker 7: these guys in here going right now, because if not,
Speaker 7: Kenneth Murder's at the guy that you're gonna want out
Speaker 7: there as your starting middle linebacker, rotational guy. Sure, but
Speaker 7: if he's your starting backer, if Javonte was just starting
Speaker 7: running back, oof, life get difficult.
Speaker 6: Ah, all right, getting depressed. Let's take a break. Let's
Speaker 6: take a break. We'll come back. Let's let we come back.
Speaker 5: Chris, you brought it up, Kurt, you had it kind
Speaker 5: of in your notes, like this is a very different
Speaker 5: looking football team and a lot of your veteran guys
Speaker 5: that were you're you know, would get in your face
Speaker 5: behind closed doors, you know, not really, I don't know
Speaker 5: if they talked about it a lot publicly, but you know,
Speaker 5: DeMarcus Lawrence, Jordan Lewis, Zach Martin, those were all guys
Speaker 5: that held that locker room accountable. And now within five years,
Speaker 5: you've got three guys that have been on the team
Speaker 5: five years are longer, right. You got these leaders in
Speaker 5: the locker room that are gone. So let's talk about
Speaker 5: the locker room dynamic because I've talked to Nick about
Speaker 5: this and it always seems to come true, and I
Speaker 5: want to get your take on it, because I think
Speaker 5: a locker room morphs into what most locker rooms are
Speaker 5: the same. You have the same characters no matter who
Speaker 5: you get rid of, it's almost like, Okay, we need
Speaker 5: a jerk, we need a nice guy, and people morph
Speaker 5: into those roles as people leave, because you're always going
Speaker 5: to have an Orlando Scandrid, Right, You're always going to
Speaker 5: have somebody that's not real nice to the media.
Speaker 4: Right, humans, not just media, But you're.
Speaker 6: Like, you're always going to have, you know, the nice guy.
Speaker 5: Like, I want to get your take on that, because
Speaker 5: you've been in a lot of different locker rooms. How
Speaker 5: you know, you get rid of this guy and then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden somebody kind.
Speaker 6: Of takes on that role.
Speaker 5: But this is very different, and you know, maybe it's
Speaker 5: a good thing with the new coaching staff coming in
Speaker 5: and they can.
Speaker 6: Kind of mold it or does it mold itself. Let's
Speaker 6: talk about that and maybe some other things when we
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Speaker 5: Talk about the locker room, Jesse, You've been in a
Speaker 5: few of them, and they are they all.
Speaker 4: Are?
Speaker 5: They all kind of the same but different? Is there
Speaker 5: always you know, your usual cast of characters, like you
Speaker 5: have the the kind of quiet leader you know that
Speaker 5: sits in there and you know, doesn't say a lot,
Speaker 5: and then you got the really outspoken.
Speaker 4: Loud guys.
Speaker 5: And then you've got the guys that don't say anything
Speaker 5: ever until stuff gets real crazy, and then it's like, all.
Speaker 6: Right, fellas, look this is getting ridiculous.
Speaker 5: And you know, is it always kind of the same
Speaker 5: hierarchy and then when guys leave, you know, like you
Speaker 5: got some leaders.
Speaker 6: Here, DeMarcus and George Lewis.
Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis was kind of a he's gonna let you
Speaker 5: know if you're not doing your job, not really put
Speaker 5: it out in the media, but we'll say we you know,
Speaker 5: we missed our assignments, we didn't do whatever. People kind
Speaker 5: of morph into. You'll have somebody that will morph into
Speaker 5: a Jordan Lewis gout. You'll have somebody that'll morph into
Speaker 5: a Zach Martin that's not gonna put his business out there.
Speaker 6: But is that typically everywhere you go.
Speaker 7: Yes, Like and when you were describing it before he
Speaker 7: went to the break, it was it was very telling
Speaker 7: because you're right, when whatever that person is whoever the
Speaker 7: vocal leader. When he goes, someone will morph into being
Speaker 7: in that role. Now Here's the thing about the locker
Speaker 7: room culture is it's not who has the loudest voice,
Speaker 7: but it's about whose voice do they listen to the most.
Speaker 7: Because you can be loud and we don't listen to you, right,
Speaker 7: Or you can be kind of seft spoken and when
Speaker 7: you speak, it speaks.
Speaker 12: Right.
Speaker 7: You've been around people when they speak everyone shuts up
Speaker 7: and listens, and you've been around people who talk loud
Speaker 7: and you're like, this guy's just blowing hot air.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 7: And so that's the biggest thing. It's about the guys
Speaker 7: in the locker room. What voice are they gravitating to?
Speaker 7: And as much as football is a team sport, it's a.
Speaker 4: Clickish locker room.
Speaker 7: You know, not only by positions like yeah, you'll have
Speaker 7: your receivers over here, but you'll have your clicks. You'll
Speaker 7: have your certain amount of people who will hang around
Speaker 7: them and and and then those clicks things formulate. Uh
Speaker 7: and and depending on again, depending on who I agree
Speaker 7: with who I don't agree with, is who I will
Speaker 7: follow and how much I will follow them. You think
Speaker 7: about Dak being the quote unquote leader.
Speaker 4: Of this football team.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 7: And it's funny that you brought up leadership because the
Speaker 7: Marcus where excuse me, DeMarcus Lawrence was one of those
Speaker 7: guys who were was a leader and enjoyed little one
Speaker 7: of the guys.
Speaker 4: Who was a leader.
Speaker 7: And almost right after the news came out that the
Speaker 7: Marcus Lawrence was going to the Seahawks, presumably the next
Speaker 7: leader in the pack tweets out, it's my time, lion face,
Speaker 7: and you guys know where I stand on when it
Speaker 7: comes to leadership. You ain't got to keep shouting at
Speaker 7: you're the leader, the lion and the pride. Don't keep
Speaker 7: shouting out that I'm the lion. I'm the leader.
Speaker 4: He just is.
Speaker 7: He beats the one that was in charge, and now
Speaker 7: everyone follows. And so it's gonna be an interesting thing
Speaker 7: to look at because who are the masses listening to?
Speaker 7: And leadership it breaks down to just being the best
Speaker 7: player more than just being the best player, And leadership
Speaker 7: takes so.
Speaker 14: Much like.
Speaker 7: If you're old enough, if you're our age and older,
Speaker 7: you understanding. You knew Michael Irvin was hell on wheels
Speaker 7: off the field to deal with, but he was the
Speaker 7: leader of the Cowboys, right like he Nato tell you that.
Speaker 7: Most of Gottill tell you that. And it wasn't because
Speaker 7: of what he did off the field. It was because
Speaker 7: he was the first guy in last got to leave.
Speaker 7: Nobody worked harder than him. He worked out, he was
Speaker 7: in the film room, he challenged you. He showed up.
Speaker 7: And you can know Mike can be out three, four, five,
Speaker 7: six o'clock in the morning. He wasn't missing practice. He
Speaker 7: wasn't gonna be late. He wasn't gonna half a it
Speaker 7: out there on the football field. He wasn't gonna blow assignments.
Speaker 7: He wasn't gonna drop the football. He wasn't gonna take
Speaker 7: off periods in practice.
Speaker 4: You knew that.
Speaker 7: And so that was a guy when he spoke, you listen,
Speaker 7: that was a guy who you followed despite what he
Speaker 7: what he was, you know his in his and this
Speaker 7: off the field life. So you just want to make
Speaker 7: sure that when you come down to that leadership that
Speaker 7: you're being that guy. And I should say that there
Speaker 7: is a there's a fine line that is drawing because
Speaker 7: what you do outside of football is no concern to
Speaker 7: me unless it has to do with affecting what you do.
Speaker 4: Inside of football.
Speaker 7: Now, Lina, when you leave out this building, if you
Speaker 7: want to go and you got six girlfriends, don't care.
Speaker 7: I'm my business. I'm my business. If you want to
Speaker 7: go drink, not my business. Not my business. If you
Speaker 7: want to go cheat on your wife, ain't my business.
Speaker 7: But if that is affecting what you do in the building,
Speaker 7: it becomes my business because your job ultimately intertwines with
Speaker 7: my job. You see what I'm saying. So that's when
Speaker 7: it becomes a problem. And that's why people say, well
Speaker 7: Mike did this. It never affected what they did in
Speaker 7: the field. It never it never affected, it never impacted
Speaker 7: in a negative way what we were as a team.
Speaker 5: And in most I'd say eighty maybe eighty percent of
Speaker 5: being a leader or eighty percent.
Speaker 6: Of in a locker room is the work and the
Speaker 6: work ethic.
Speaker 4: Because if you work hard, the respect comes from that.
Speaker 5: You got to be good, right, You can't be yes,
Speaker 5: you can't be a mediocre player or you know, an
Speaker 5: okay player and be a leader.
Speaker 6: I don't think. I think You've got to be really
Speaker 6: good at your position.
Speaker 5: And then you have to do the unspoken work, the
Speaker 5: film work, the like a Sean Lee kind of guy,
Speaker 5: right like, really good at his position, didn't talk much,
Speaker 5: but was always in the film room and was always
Speaker 5: working extra and always doing the extra work. And then
Speaker 5: you develop people gravitate towards that because they admire that
Speaker 5: and they respect that. So then that's how you build
Speaker 5: kind of that following in the locker room. Or do
Speaker 5: you or have you ever seen a leader that's a
Speaker 5: leader that kind of had a reputation of.
Speaker 6: He didn't really do the work, but helly, he's a
Speaker 6: hell of a player. And you know, are there are
Speaker 6: there different types or do you have to do.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to. I'll tell you off there. Okay,
Speaker 7: I'll tell you off there because I don't want to.
Speaker 7: But but some of your favorites, some of your favorite cowboys,
Speaker 7: at least in the time that I was a part
Speaker 7: of the team, and I've been coming to a team,
Speaker 7: some of your favorite cowboys who were quote unquote the
Speaker 7: leaders of the team.
Speaker 4: You ain't want to follow that junk.
Speaker 5: But were they leaders to the locker Everybody has their
Speaker 5: own opinion outside no right facing like, oh.
Speaker 6: He's a leader, he's a leader.
Speaker 5: But when you really, when you really get to know,
Speaker 5: like the people in the locker room, like what we're
Speaker 5: going to talk.
Speaker 6: About off air.
Speaker 5: I know some of the guys you're gonna say, right,
Speaker 5: and they were good, Right, they're good and they were
Speaker 5: they were good players like you were, Like, not only
Speaker 5: were a good player, they were some of the best
Speaker 5: players on the team in the league. But were they
Speaker 5: but were they leaders or were they just leaders to
Speaker 5: the public?
Speaker 6: Did they leave the locker room or was it kind of.
Speaker 4: Like they had a following.
Speaker 7: Okay, let me say that they had a following, but
Speaker 7: they didn't have the whole locker they didn't have the whole.
Speaker 8: Locker room, and that somebody like in the case of Martin,
Speaker 8: he was probably a good leader, but was he just
Speaker 8: a good leader to the offensive lineman? I mean as
Speaker 8: a guy, you know, Donovan Wilson gonna follow Zach Martin
Speaker 8: that kind of thing. Is it more uh, you know,
Speaker 8: broken up.
Speaker 6: Like that, segmented in position groups?
Speaker 7: It could be, like it definitely could be. But like
Speaker 7: we're talking about offensive lineman. I remember a couple of
Speaker 7: years ago when the Nighters would talk about, uh, Trent Williams,
Speaker 7: they was, no, he's a leader, he's an offensive lineman.
Speaker 7: They said when Trent spoke, we all listened. When Trent
Speaker 7: said something office defense whoever you you you you, you
Speaker 7: turned your attention to what he was saying. So it
Speaker 7: could it couldn't You know? Yes, at times it could
Speaker 7: be segmented like that, but there are offensive lineman who
Speaker 7: would command the attention of the team bye.
Speaker 4: Bye by their work. The work comes first.
Speaker 7: Let me say that you don't get any respect from
Speaker 7: anybody on this on this level, if if, if the
Speaker 7: productivity is not there, yeah, if they don't, they don't,
Speaker 7: if they if you, if you will, bum hush.
Speaker 8: Well we've talked before. I think we've kind of talked
Speaker 8: about it's what some of the struggles of this team.
Speaker 8: Then the locker room leadership. So you know, I hate
Speaker 8: to see these guys leave, and I do think they
Speaker 8: were good leaders, but maybe it is time for new blood.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's been a thirty year drought.
Speaker 7: If that, if we're if we're basing it on that,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm what I'm saying like there hasn't
Speaker 7: been enough leadership to get some over the hump, all right.
Speaker 5: So another question that's related to that, can some of
Speaker 5: these guys are leaving like you said there's turnover. There's
Speaker 5: young guys that are gonna step in and kind of
Speaker 5: fill these roles, and some of them will. I think
Speaker 5: there's some guys that say vocally I'm gonna be the
Speaker 5: now that he's gone.
Speaker 6: I think there's some.
Speaker 5: Guys that build that following and just organically become a leader.
Speaker 6: Can let's just say, let's just say.
Speaker 5: Dorn Blam, we pull him out in are right, Like,
Speaker 5: he's a young talent, he's good. I don't know anything
Speaker 5: about his work ethic or anything like that. But can
Speaker 5: if you start getting a following in the locker room,
Speaker 5: can that translate into confidence on the field and taking
Speaker 5: you to the next level of your game.
Speaker 6: Have you ever seen that happen?
Speaker 7: Yeah, because what happens is when you get a following,
Speaker 7: now everyone's watching.
Speaker 4: So now I have to be out of work harder, right,
Speaker 4: I have to be here.
Speaker 7: I have to know what I'm talking about because the
Speaker 7: following comes in and go, hey, hey, Douran, what we
Speaker 7: have on this coverage?
Speaker 4: What's the call? If I don't know, I lose my following.
Speaker 7: Like that's the part about the following is when they
Speaker 7: when they need answers, when they need understanding.
Speaker 4: They come to me and I have to be able to.
Speaker 6: Provide that for the mentor and all of that.
Speaker 7: Right, So, now when I'm able to go out there
Speaker 7: or or it's it's in that it's in that meeting,
Speaker 7: and this has happened. I've seen this happen before. It's
Speaker 7: in that meeting where whether it's office defense, whether it's
Speaker 7: team office defense, or it's a position meeting, and the
Speaker 7: coach is saying something and then that guy goes, hold on, coach.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, play it again. Now we
Speaker 4: should be in this or that was the call.
Speaker 7: And coach goes, you know what you're right now that
Speaker 7: like it's that type of thing. People looking like, oh
Speaker 7: he really knows his stuff, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: When it's when you're you know, sometime when you're in
Speaker 7: that meeting room and and and like I said, coach
Speaker 7: is calling things out.
Speaker 4: Coach is calling things out.
Speaker 7: Now you're looking at it and it's saying, oh, wow,
Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't know, I don't have the answers.
Speaker 7: And now looking at you like, well then I can't
Speaker 7: trust you.
Speaker 4: I can't I can't.
Speaker 7: Follow a man who don't know what he's doing. If
Speaker 7: he knows what he's doing, I can follow. But if
Speaker 7: he if he's if he's questioning what he has to do,
Speaker 7: then I'm gonna question him and what I have to do.
Speaker 7: So now I gotta find a new leader. And so
Speaker 7: when you have those guys that are able to set
Speaker 7: that type of tone, the following growth, the following growth,
Speaker 7: and once you have a following now you look around
Speaker 7: and you go, oh, I am an example. Now, so
Speaker 7: now I gotta watch the extra film. I gotta be
Speaker 7: in the weight room, I gotta be here on time,
Speaker 7: I gotta practice, I gotta do all these things because
Speaker 7: I look around and it was just about me. Now
Speaker 7: I got seven eight guys saying what you think we're
Speaker 7: counting on? You were coming to you for the answers.
Speaker 7: And that's when that that that's when you can kind
Speaker 7: of morph into that uh, into that leader. But it's
Speaker 7: it's it's the expectations.
Speaker 8: It can't be I'm the guy.
Speaker 4: It's gotta be trying to give me trouble.
Speaker 7: Na get me, Kurt, You're not gonna get They're not
Speaker 7: gonna get me. You're not gonna get me out. I'm
Speaker 7: just saying is just be a leader. You have to
Speaker 7: tell everybody that you're the leader.
Speaker 4: Just be it. Everyone will be a leader.
Speaker 6: Kirk, don't tell us you're the leader.
Speaker 4: Everyone will know you.
Speaker 6: Just keep doing this.
Speaker 5: This work all right, well, fellas, it was fun this.
Speaker 5: Hopefully we'll have some big news, some big free agent
Speaker 5: signing in the next week.
Speaker 6: We can talk about next week. If not, who knows
Speaker 6: what we'll.
Speaker 4: Talk about draft something.
Speaker 5: I'm sure somebody upstairs will say something that we'll be
Speaker 5: able to, you know, maybe the MAVs will make another move.
Speaker 7: Something completely random. Did you see what Southwest did about
Speaker 7: what I was driving in? Southwest? Is crazy? At least
Speaker 7: we didn't trade Lucas stop. You guys lost a lot
Speaker 7: of customers with that new policy with a sponsor.
Speaker 4: Sorry, if you are there, they're not American.
Speaker 6: Let's go, I will I will fly American Now.
Speaker 5: I used to be on the other side because of
Speaker 5: the free bag policy.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 5: Now, I'm thanks American yepporting the Cowboys because here we go.
Speaker 5: All right, fellas, good stuff. We will be back next Thursday,
Speaker 5: same time, same But.
Speaker 7: What maybe oh I'm joking?
Speaker 4: Okay, what is it?
Speaker 6: When does you drop another spots.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, talking about it.
Speaker 6: What is the draft?
Speaker 5: April twenty six eight, So we have a month and
Speaker 5: a half before the draft.
Speaker 6: So we'll start getting into draft talk.
Speaker 8: Soon sixty five, start breaking down that film for us.
Speaker 6: I will yeah, I'll get you by. I got big
Speaker 6: working on my book for.
Speaker 7: For several months, working to Good Draft magazine, right, yes,
Speaker 7: deadline this week?
Speaker 8: Yeah, when's it come out?
Speaker 4: Deadline?
Speaker 8: Yeah, probably by the time he gets online, and did
Speaker 8: probably be first part of April, first.
Speaker 4: Part of April.
Speaker 6: Who all's contributing this year?
Speaker 8: All the normal writers, you know, Kyle's doing a lot
Speaker 8: of the work. Tommy Mickey Patrick on Bold.
Speaker 6: Good deal you.
Speaker 8: Oh sure, we got to plug yourself.
Speaker 15: You're quiet here, but hey yeah, Leading magazine. No, he
Speaker 15: just they know that's right, They know you got to
Speaker 15: say it. They know no that need to know.
Speaker 9: No drop the draft is the twenty fourth, twenty fourth
Speaker 9: there it is twenty four four, twenty six.
Speaker 6: You go twenty seven, twenty two nine.
Speaker 9: You will be very disappointed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well twenty six you'll be good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you'll be like the first the first part fourth
Speaker 6: Jesus is gonna quick.
Speaker 5: It's in Green Bay this year how many people do
Speaker 5: you think are going that you know, I have heard
Speaker 5: about lambeau and the mystique in the area of lambeau Field,
Speaker 5: and they go to this draft and they get there
Speaker 5: and they.
Speaker 6: Go this is a terrible decision. There's nothing to do in.
Speaker 9: Green Bay, Like I want to know where all these
Speaker 9: people are going to stay, right Milwaukee shuttling.
Speaker 5: Yes, but it's like I guarantee you there's going to
Speaker 5: be a large number of people that are going to
Speaker 5: go in.
Speaker 6: Just be like, this is it.
Speaker 4: Cheose it up?
Speaker 9: Amazing stadium, Like we went to Green Bay and stayed
Speaker 9: in Appleton.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, don't knock Apple.
Speaker 4: That's it. Them airbnbs around the stadium going to.
Speaker 6: Be man lit. You ain't lied. I would take vacation
Speaker 6: and be like, take.
Speaker 4: It for take it for a week.
Speaker 6: For a week, I'm going to Mexico.
Speaker 5: All right, We'll be back next week. Hopefully tune in
Speaker 5: to see if we make it or not.
Speaker 6: Hanging with the Boys we out.
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