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Speaker 1: He is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wing Stuff.

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Speaker 3: Where Flavor gets its wings.

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Speaker 4: Now your hosts.

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 5: Thursday, looking live at Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Ford Center

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Speaker 5: at the Star in Frisco, Texas.

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Speaker 6: Where it doesn't get much better than this.

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Speaker 5: Seventy nine degrees, the highest eighty five, the lowest fifty four.

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Speaker 7: Here's Sherley, that's lunch. He is Shannon, that is Kirt.

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Speaker 7: In the back is Chris. I don't know when they apps.

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Speaker 6: We don't know either.

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Speaker 4: We don't know when they tap. Not here, not here.

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Speaker 7: I am selling pepper Poppy together we make Hanging with

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Speaker 7: the boys. I didn't go down the right way.

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Speaker 4: Fee when we speak.

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Speaker 5: Or through that or whatever, when things come out of

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Speaker 5: Flavor gets its wiz.

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Speaker 6: How you guys doing better than I'm doing? Good welcome Chris. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: we'll give jesse Ment a co I'm dying. At least

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Speaker 6: you made show. I died last week and didn't make

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Speaker 6: it to the show.

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Speaker 4: So they will call you soft and everything.

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Speaker 6: Dude, I hadn't been I don't know if it was us.

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Speaker 6: You are not a machine, Jesse neither am I. You

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Speaker 6: would not have wanted me on the show Thursday situations.

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Speaker 5: Notting Rise running all over the microphone would not have

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Speaker 5: been good.

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Speaker 6: But it's only one day, one day, and I was good.

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Speaker 5: So uh may do y'all remember a we'll get I

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Speaker 5: want your take on part of this.

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Speaker 6: But do y'all remember? And it probably happens every year.

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Speaker 4: You just don't realize it.

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Speaker 5: This many big names flying around trading teams and getting

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Speaker 5: cut and a.

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Speaker 8: Lot of receivers for sure.

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Speaker 5: Well that's why I was gonna bring up, what is

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Speaker 5: your take on why so many big name, big contract

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Speaker 5: receivers or flat out just getting cut because you know,

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Speaker 5: people don't want to take on their contracts as it is,

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Speaker 5: there that much talent now coming out of college, that

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Speaker 5: receiver depth is better than.

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Speaker 6: It used to be, and it's easy to get you.

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Speaker 5: Know, a number one two or is the game changing.

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Speaker 5: Is the salary cap effect the words should take on that.

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Speaker 7: I think the answer is yes to all of the above.

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Speaker 7: I think the talent has definitely grown. When you think

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Speaker 7: about now, look at how many kids in high school

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Speaker 7: are doing private training, one on one training. The development

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Speaker 7: of the game is happening at a much faster rate.

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Speaker 7: So you're getting more college ready players. And then you're

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Speaker 7: you just have you just have an accelerated production that

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Speaker 7: it is happening in the skill positions, and the kids

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Speaker 7: And then the second thing is when they come into

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Speaker 7: the league, you're starting to see more now of the system. Right,

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Speaker 7: we used to make fun of the system quarterback or

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Speaker 7: the system. Look at what the Niners have done the last.

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Speaker 7: It's like plug a player in here, he runs this,

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Speaker 7: you're seeing more of that. You're seeing more of the

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Speaker 7: new age coaches come in taking a lot of the

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Speaker 4: So is that a.

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Speaker 5: Testament of how far ahead of the game Bill Belichick

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Speaker 5: was because in there what he used to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: And those teams who develop those type of dynasties you

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Speaker 7: The window of you winning with at that cost, uh

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Speaker 7: let go of these guys and and just basically no

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Speaker 7: It's it's it's kind of like a forbidden word grouping.

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Speaker 7: But it's a soft rebuild, like the Niners are going

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Speaker 7: through a soft rebuilt. That's what they're going through right now.

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Speaker 7: They've had some major cups. And when you're when you

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Speaker 7: that gives you think about it, in Esse, its fifty

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Speaker 7: When you think about it, when you have a quarterback

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Speaker 7: uh oh, like Washington, they're able to do what they're

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Speaker 5: And it just amplifies that when you have a rookie

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Speaker 7: That's really good, it helps you right right, Or they

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a rookie deal.

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Speaker 8: That's part of why they're cutting everybody. They're gonna him.

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Speaker 7: They got to pay him. They have to make a decision.

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Speaker 7: This is the guy we're gonna go forward with. So

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Speaker 7: then next year we'll come out the gates and we'll

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Speaker 7: be signing guys and doing guys because you know you'll

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Speaker 7: sign them, and once you sign them, the money gets

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Speaker 7: He'll have a big time for you. He'll have a

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Speaker 7: big time signing bonus, but it'll count pennies towards the

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Speaker 7: of YadA YadA, and then it'll come to roost.

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Speaker 4: In a couple of years.

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Speaker 7: So it's it's a combination of all of those things

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Speaker 7: being yes, okay, Kurt, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: How do you feel about what the Cowboys have done

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Speaker 6: Well, keeping guys, letting guys go.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think we all there's certain guys.

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Speaker 8: You know, We're nice to have Jordan Lewis here. I

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Speaker 8: don't know if ten million a year was worth that.

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Speaker 8: Same with DeMarcus Lawrence. He's got a real good deal

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Speaker 8: there got some big holes to fill, especially on the

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Speaker 8: adding depth, but I don't feel like they've really other

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Speaker 8: they're gonna They've opened their setting their SUPs up so

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Speaker 8: they can grab impact players in the draft. Right now.

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Speaker 8: It's got the fan base a little worried. I think.

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Speaker 5: It's like it feels like business as usual, and business

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Speaker 5: has not been good for twenty years.

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Speaker 8: Well that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: This is the little draft me.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, this has been the the roadmap for them

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Speaker 5: And you're you're going and getting a bunch of guys

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Speaker 6: It just feels like the same old thing at a.

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Speaker 5: I think a very pivotal point in this franchise. I

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Speaker 5: I feel like maybe they're over evaluating the talent that's

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Speaker 6: That are good players, right, but they're.

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Speaker 5: Not like, oh see you talked about it, not not

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Speaker 5: them intact because that was a shining point, you know,

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Speaker 5: last year you got that back. By the way, shout

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Speaker 5: Louisiana now.

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Speaker 6: Shout out.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, it just feels like, you know, and listen,

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Speaker 6: Would I would probably be the same way. This is

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Speaker 6: the way I do business, this is my team, this

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Speaker 6: is the way I'm going to run it.

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Speaker 4: I would hope you wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: Eventually, We're I'm gonna get there. But at the same time,

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Speaker 5: it's like I think you just as a fan, you

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Speaker 5: just want to be you want to shake up, you

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Speaker 5: want to you know no.

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Speaker 8: I think Jerry even said it last week that you

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Speaker 8: know there are planning on these young guys and these

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Speaker 8: lot of hope, a.

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Speaker 6: Lot of hope.

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Speaker 5: And I tell you what if you if you miss

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Speaker 4: You got voids.

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Speaker 4: But these aren't progressive moves, none of them.

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Speaker 6: These are moves you have to make to operate the franchise.

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Speaker 7: Is a move that you have to make to actually

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Speaker 9: People don't realize they only had like forty guys on

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Speaker 6: Thanks for putting that in perspective. You know, I'm just

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Speaker 4: Ye, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: At some point, you gotta get you gotta get guys.

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Speaker 4: So I get it. I understand it.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know if this was on purpose by you, Kurt,

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Speaker 7: That's a telling sign, like like we are the I

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Speaker 6: We think we could do better than somebody.

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Speaker 4: You don't hear that, You don't.

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Speaker 7: You don't hear former first round pick for guys who

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Speaker 5: But you lived up to that first Michael Parsons described

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Speaker 4: You know, you don't hear it. You just don't.

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Speaker 5: You don't hear it because you hear them by their

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Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying, Like like no one says

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: This is Joey Bosa, right, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: Like so that that's a telling sign to me. And

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Speaker 6: Is this the kind of guy we like other the traits?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 7: Like they they they measure a certain way, they do

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Speaker 8: Just some of those grades.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's get in. Do you still have that? Pull

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Speaker 5: And by the way, Osa, you are now a twenty

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Speaker 6: Despite what Jesse said.

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Speaker 4: What's wild is you are he actually left money on

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he and his anything was like,

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Speaker 6: He could have been more of a richard, have been

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's not.

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Speaker 6: Maybe quality of life and where you're at and they been.

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Speaker 7: And what you can do with twenty that you can't

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Speaker 6: Point that extra two million when you're already making twenty.

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Speaker 9: Sence where he's signing Texas is Yeah, I'm just saying

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville might give you some money.

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Speaker 4: Of trivia boys.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yea yeah, I got something for you. Let's

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Speaker 6: do trivia first.

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Speaker 9: Someone brought this up to me, uh, a couple of

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Speaker 6: Did you research it to make sure it was accurate?

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Speaker 13: It was accurate?

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Speaker 6: Okay, good, Okay?

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Speaker 13: Can you name the players left from the Garrett error?

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Speaker 13: The players left from the Garrett era? So one, coach,

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Speaker 6: Five?

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Speaker 6: Five? How many are there? I'm not gonna tell you.

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Speaker 7: Zero Then DAK, c J Goodwin, CJ good Ones, two,

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Speaker 6: Ced didn't play for Garrett.

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Speaker 9: He was drafted in twenty twenty, which was the COVID year,

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Speaker 7: Wow, Dak CJ and Donovan Donovan.

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Speaker 4: And Dak's now your longest tenure cowboy, right yep, I.

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Speaker 8: Mean years ten twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 9: So being I'll be interesting to see when training camp

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Speaker 4: ten Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah. They had said they wanted him back. They

448
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 8: were trying to get him, but they just weren't going to.

449
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Speaker 4: Go that high.

450
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Speaker 5: Would you all pay ten million for him? Considering you

451
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Speaker 5: really have one corner right now that you can depend on.

452
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Speaker 8: And he's ten is tough, thirty at his age, and.

453
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Speaker 5: I mean he was your nickel corner.

454
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Speaker 4: If I don't think I signed Jordans.

455
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Speaker 7: If I knew that my team was a serious contender,

456
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Speaker 7: I might have signed Jordan Man if I knew that

457
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 7: my team was a serious contender. I might have done

458
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Speaker 7: could have been that one piece of I might have

459
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Speaker 7: done two for twenty.

460
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Speaker 8: Really yeah, see that's said one person I read speculated

461
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Speaker 8: that same day they signed Marcus Marquis Bell. Could he

462
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Speaker 8: be your slot guy having played some linebacker, he's bigger?

463
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Speaker 4: No, no, no.

464
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Speaker 8: He's not bigger knowledge no.

465
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Speaker 7: No, not not the cover receivers. I mean Jordan, what

466
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Speaker 7: Jordan did in the slot you're talking about. You know,

467
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Speaker 7: he went up against some premium guys, you know what

468
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Speaker 7: I mean, And he battled against some premium gods. I

469
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Speaker 7: don't I don't think Marquis Bell is versatile. But he's

470
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Speaker 7: more versatile in the sense of, you know, coming down

471
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Speaker 7: in the box, you know, tackle running backs, cover some

472
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Speaker 7: tight ends. But to have to cover a receiver, you know,

473
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Speaker 7: forty yards running across the field, Yeah, he'd be he'd

474
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Speaker 7: be a he'd be in a blender, he would be.

475
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Speaker 5: So DeMarcus went to Seattle, right, Yeah, three years forty

476
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Speaker 5: two million, not to aiden dirty.

477
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Speaker 12: Uh.

478
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Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis h Jacksonville three years thirty million, a doga

479
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 5: same place, two years seven million. Ricos rised me a

480
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 5: little bit the money that he got Carolina one year,

481
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 5: six point twenty five million.

482
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Speaker 7: That's okay, So the six point twenty five is up

483
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 7: to Incent Events. Yeah, it's more like it's.

484
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Speaker 4: Like like what what they gave Javonte?

485
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that surprised me that they for what they spent

486
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Speaker 8: on Javonte, why they didn't bring you?

487
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

488
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Speaker 5: And then Chauncey Ghoston signed with the Giants three years,

489
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Speaker 5: nineteen and a half million.

490
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Speaker 7: One thing about DeMarcus Lawrence, boy, he don't he don't

491
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Speaker 7: miss when it comes time to going to the bank.

492
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Speaker 6: No, he don't miss. That's his what third big contract?

493
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Speaker 4: He don't miss.

494
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Speaker 6: And he's been hurt a lot.

495
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Speaker 4: He don't him.

496
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Speaker 2: Was it?

497
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Speaker 7: David Cant is the cantor so when whenever it is,

498
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Speaker 7: in fact, all of David Cat's content clients, right, Lawrence

499
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Speaker 7: Lewis No, yeah, Lawrence Lewis.

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Speaker 4: Rico was in there, Dad was in there too, right yeah. Yeah.

501
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Speaker 7: But when it comes to whenever David Canton, DeMarcus Lawrence,

502
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 7: they see out of eye when it come to them

503
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 7: checks because he don't miss with it. Coud of to

504
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 7: Marcus lower good Fee, they go to the bank together.

505
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Speaker 5: Well, happy for all those guys, as people sad to

506
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 5: see all of them go from a team perspective. Then

507
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 5: re signed guys of course, the punter Anger two years

508
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 5: six point four million, Cavante Turpin three years, thirteen and

509
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 5: a half, your long snapper three years four point four

510
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 5: to five million, Marquise Bell get to see him back

511
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 5: three years nine million.

512
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 6: CJ.

513
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Speaker 5: Goodwin, which has been here for seems like he's fifty

514
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Speaker 5: years old.

515
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Speaker 8: Wow is one year when he got here.

516
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Speaker 5: One point four million and Osa four years eighty million.

517
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Speaker 8: So I wanted to get Nate's opinion on this because

518
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Speaker 8: he was preaching, we need all those guys back, and

519
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 8: we needed Jordan Goldston. Don't do like last year we

520
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 8: lost ormstrong and foulering man. They did exactly.

521
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Speaker 5: So would you just looking at who the newly acquired

522
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 5: guys are the guys they let go? These are what

523
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 5: you said gap fillers, right, would you have left some

524
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 5: gaps open to get some of these guys back and

525
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 5: move this money around?

526
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Speaker 6: Like DeMarcus. I don't I love DeMarcus.

527
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 5: I don't know physically what he's got left because he's

528
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 5: you know, with his back problem he's had, and then.

529
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Speaker 4: What is it fot foot.

530
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Speaker 5: Not good problems to have as a defensive end, so

531
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Speaker 5: that money's a little bit steep. But these other guys

532
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Speaker 5: I would have thought you would have for it's a

533
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 5: lot of money for these guys, but looking at who

534
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 5: you signed, does it balance out? Would you try to

535
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 5: keep your own guys like Nate said, or would you

536
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Speaker 5: do you think it's good.

537
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 6: To kind of move on and try some different.

538
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Speaker 7: Out of the five that we lost, I think three

539
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 7: I would have I would have liked to keep. I

540
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 7: would have liked to keep Jordan, Rico and Gholson. Those

541
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 7: three I would have liked to keep if you could

542
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 7: have somehow, some way. And I don't even know if

543
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 7: it's really like money, because even when you're sitting right now,

544
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 7: the Cowboys, yes they got they got some more some

545
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 7: more depth. But I don't know if the replacements are

546
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 7: better than what we lost, right you know what I mean? Like,

547
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 7: I don't know if that's like Javonte is to me

548
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 7: and Kurt has the PFF grades for if you if

549
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 7: you if you value that for whatever you value that

550
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 7: for Javonte is not better than Rico.

551
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: He's not. He's not.

552
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 7: Maybe he's a better pass catch out of the backfield,

553
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 7: but he's not a better running back than Rico. I

554
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 7: don't know what Gabe Jones is. I mean, they'll have

555
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 7: some competition there. But if that was the case, you know,

556
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 7: whether it's guard or whether it's tackle. You know with Tuma, do.

557
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 8: You like that these are all like one year deals,

558
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 8: a bunch of most of them, and it's just like

559
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 8: a quick.

560
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Speaker 4: That's what lets me know these are like fillers.

561
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 7: These are avoid fillers because you don't have any long term plans.

562
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Speaker 4: And and let me also add this to the mix.

563
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Speaker 7: Just because these guys are signed today, that don't mean

564
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 7: they make this football team. Like there's a there's a

565
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 7: none of this money, like it's really really guaranteed money

566
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 7: until you get onto the roster after sept whatever the

567
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 7: September date is that you add to the roster and

568
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 7: that money becomes guaranteed. Whatever you get in your signing bonus,

569
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 7: that's you know whatever that those guys who have some

570
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 7: signing bonuses, but.

571
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Speaker 4: It is not.

572
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 7: This newly acquired list are a bunch of guys who,

573
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 7: like Chris and I was saying earlier, we gotta feel

574
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 7: a team. You gotta put guys on the team to

575
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 7: feel the team. Doesn't mean that they're going to actually

576
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 7: be here when we break camp and we start our

577
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 7: seating off in September. That that's not a None of

578
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 7: these guys are Exton Stone and so we'll see, well,

579
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 7: we'll see what they have. You know, like I said,

580
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 7: what it what it lends you is I don't have

581
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 7: to go into the draft with dire needs like I

582
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 7: don't if if I go into the draft and I

583
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 7: can't really get the linebacker around want, I'm not too

584
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 7: tore up about it because I got two linebackers already.

585
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

586
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 7: I suppose if you go into the draft and you

587
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 7: don't have you all you got is a Maris on

588
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 7: your football team right now, and and uh, what's the

589
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 7: guy who was in the doghouse last year?

590
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 4: Damon Clark.

591
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 7: Now you're going to the draft and you almost kind

592
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 7: of it's a pressing need now you may reach you

593
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 7: may have to kind of really go above and beyond

594
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 7: and get a guy because you don't have any guys.

595
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 4: These guys they're.

596
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Speaker 8: I don't know, they still be running back And yeah, Cornery.

597
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 7: No no, no, You're still going to draft those guys for sure.

598
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 7: But again I am I Jerry said it about you know,

599
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 7: I was a little bit over ahead of my skis

600
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 7: when I drafted a first round left tackle and I

601
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 7: just threw them out there and thought it was gonna work.

602
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 7: So you want to kind of have some guys in

603
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 7: the position if if that, if that young fella ain't

604
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 7: quite coming along like you need them to, because it's

605
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 7: a lot of pressure on your organization to going to

606
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 7: the draft and saying, well, I need rounds one, two and.

607
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: Three to hit. Yeah, like that's pressure.

608
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 7: Like I need one, two and three to be instant, impact,

609
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 7: productive human football players today. Now, normally you feel that

610
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 7: way about one right one you're kind of saying, like,

611
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 7: all right, you know, I'm at twelve one, should come

612
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 7: in here and be able to go. You feel that

613
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 7: way two and three you kind of you know, the

614
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 7: percentage goes down a little bit, but you're still kind

615
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 7: of feeling a little.

616
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: Bit hopeful forward. But the pressure is on.

617
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Speaker 7: Now that boy we miss on our last two drafts,

618
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 7: so to speak, not so to speak, you missing your

619
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Speaker 7: last two drafts. You know early on, I gotta get

620
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 7: these guys in here going right now, because if not,

621
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 7: Kenneth Murder's at the guy that you're gonna want out

622
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 7: there as your starting middle linebacker, rotational guy. Sure, but

623
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Speaker 7: if he's your starting backer, if Javonte was just starting

624
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 7: running back, oof, life get difficult.

625
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Speaker 6: Ah, all right, getting depressed. Let's take a break. Let's

626
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 6: take a break. We'll come back. Let's let we come back.

627
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Speaker 5: Chris, you brought it up, Kurt, you had it kind

628
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 5: of in your notes, like this is a very different

629
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 5: looking football team and a lot of your veteran guys

630
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: that were you're you know, would get in your face

631
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: behind closed doors, you know, not really, I don't know

632
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 5: if they talked about it a lot publicly, but you know,

633
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 5: DeMarcus Lawrence, Jordan Lewis, Zach Martin, those were all guys

634
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 5: that held that locker room accountable. And now within five years,

635
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: you've got three guys that have been on the team

636
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 5: five years are longer, right. You got these leaders in

637
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 5: the locker room that are gone. So let's talk about

638
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 5: the locker room dynamic because I've talked to Nick about

639
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 5: this and it always seems to come true, and I

640
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 5: want to get your take on it, because I think

641
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: a locker room morphs into what most locker rooms are

642
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 5: the same. You have the same characters no matter who

643
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 5: you get rid of, it's almost like, Okay, we need

644
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 5: a jerk, we need a nice guy, and people morph

645
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 5: into those roles as people leave, because you're always going

646
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 5: to have an Orlando Scandrid, Right, You're always going to

647
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 5: have somebody that's not real nice to the media.

648
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: Right, humans, not just media, But you're.

649
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 6: Like, you're always going to have, you know, the nice guy.

650
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 5: Like, I want to get your take on that, because

651
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 5: you've been in a lot of different locker rooms. How

652
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 5: you know, you get rid of this guy and then

653
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 5: all of a sudden somebody kind.

654
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Speaker 6: Of takes on that role.

655
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 5: But this is very different, and you know, maybe it's

656
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 5: a good thing with the new coaching staff coming in

657
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 5: and they can.

658
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 6: Kind of mold it or does it mold itself. Let's

659
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Speaker 6: talk about that and maybe some other things when we

660
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Speaker 5: Talk about the locker room, Jesse, You've been in a

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Speaker 5: few of them, and they are they all.

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Speaker 4: Are?

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Speaker 5: They all kind of the same but different? Is there

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Speaker 5: always you know, your usual cast of characters, like you

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Speaker 5: have the the kind of quiet leader you know that

714
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 5: sits in there and you know, doesn't say a lot,

715
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 5: and then you got the really outspoken.

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Speaker 4: Loud guys.

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Speaker 5: And then you've got the guys that don't say anything

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Speaker 5: ever until stuff gets real crazy, and then it's like, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, fellas, look this is getting ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: And you know, is it always kind of the same

721
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 5: hierarchy and then when guys leave, you know, like you

722
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 5: got some leaders.

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Speaker 6: Here, DeMarcus and George Lewis.

724
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis was kind of a he's gonna let you

725
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 5: know if you're not doing your job, not really put

726
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 5: it out in the media, but we'll say we you know,

727
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 5: we missed our assignments, we didn't do whatever. People kind

728
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Speaker 5: of morph into. You'll have somebody that will morph into

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Speaker 5: a Jordan Lewis gout. You'll have somebody that'll morph into

730
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Speaker 5: a Zach Martin that's not gonna put his business out there.

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Speaker 6: But is that typically everywhere you go.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Like and when you were describing it before he

733
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Speaker 7: went to the break, it was it was very telling

734
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 7: because you're right, when whatever that person is whoever the

735
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 7: vocal leader. When he goes, someone will morph into being

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Speaker 7: in that role. Now Here's the thing about the locker

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00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 7: room culture is it's not who has the loudest voice,

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Speaker 7: but it's about whose voice do they listen to the most.

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Speaker 7: Because you can be loud and we don't listen to you, right,

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Speaker 7: Or you can be kind of seft spoken and when

741
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Speaker 7: you speak, it speaks.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 7: You've been around people when they speak everyone shuts up

744
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 7: and listens, and you've been around people who talk loud

745
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 7: and you're like, this guy's just blowing hot air.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And so that's the biggest thing. It's about the guys

748
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Speaker 7: in the locker room. What voice are they gravitating to?

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Speaker 7: And as much as football is a team sport, it's a.

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00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: Clickish locker room.

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Speaker 7: You know, not only by positions like yeah, you'll have

752
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Speaker 7: your receivers over here, but you'll have your clicks. You'll

753
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Speaker 7: have your certain amount of people who will hang around

754
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 7: them and and and then those clicks things formulate. Uh

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Speaker 7: and and depending on again, depending on who I agree

756
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Speaker 7: with who I don't agree with, is who I will

757
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 7: follow and how much I will follow them. You think

758
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 7: about Dak being the quote unquote leader.

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Speaker 4: Of this football team.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And it's funny that you brought up leadership because the

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Speaker 7: Marcus where excuse me, DeMarcus Lawrence was one of those

763
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Speaker 7: guys who were was a leader and enjoyed little one

764
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Speaker 7: of the guys.

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Speaker 4: Who was a leader.

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Speaker 7: And almost right after the news came out that the

767
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 7: Marcus Lawrence was going to the Seahawks, presumably the next

768
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 7: leader in the pack tweets out, it's my time, lion face,

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Speaker 7: and you guys know where I stand on when it

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Speaker 7: comes to leadership. You ain't got to keep shouting at

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00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 7: you're the leader, the lion and the pride. Don't keep

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Speaker 7: shouting out that I'm the lion. I'm the leader.

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Speaker 4: He just is.

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Speaker 7: He beats the one that was in charge, and now

775
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 7: everyone follows. And so it's gonna be an interesting thing

776
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Speaker 7: to look at because who are the masses listening to?

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Speaker 7: And leadership it breaks down to just being the best

778
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 7: player more than just being the best player, And leadership

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00:37:59,520 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 7: takes so.

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Speaker 14: Much like.

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Speaker 7: If you're old enough, if you're our age and older,

782
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Speaker 7: you understanding. You knew Michael Irvin was hell on wheels

783
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 7: off the field to deal with, but he was the

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Speaker 7: leader of the Cowboys, right like he Nato tell you that.

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Speaker 7: Most of Gottill tell you that. And it wasn't because

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Speaker 7: of what he did off the field. It was because

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Speaker 7: he was the first guy in last got to leave.

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Speaker 7: Nobody worked harder than him. He worked out, he was

789
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Speaker 7: in the film room, he challenged you. He showed up.

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Speaker 7: And you can know Mike can be out three, four, five,

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Speaker 7: six o'clock in the morning. He wasn't missing practice. He

792
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Speaker 7: wasn't gonna be late. He wasn't gonna half a it

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Speaker 7: out there on the football field. He wasn't gonna blow assignments.

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Speaker 7: He wasn't gonna drop the football. He wasn't gonna take

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Speaker 7: off periods in practice.

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Speaker 4: You knew that.

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Speaker 7: And so that was a guy when he spoke, you listen,

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Speaker 7: that was a guy who you followed despite what he

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Speaker 7: what he was, you know his in his and this

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Speaker 7: off the field life. So you just want to make

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Speaker 7: sure that when you come down to that leadership that

802
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 7: you're being that guy. And I should say that there

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Speaker 7: is a there's a fine line that is drawing because

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Speaker 7: what you do outside of football is no concern to

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Speaker 7: me unless it has to do with affecting what you do.

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Speaker 4: Inside of football.

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Speaker 7: Now, Lina, when you leave out this building, if you

808
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 7: want to go and you got six girlfriends, don't care.

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00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 7: I'm my business. I'm my business. If you want to

810
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 7: go drink, not my business. Not my business. If you

811
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 7: want to go cheat on your wife, ain't my business.

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00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 7: But if that is affecting what you do in the building,

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00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 7: it becomes my business because your job ultimately intertwines with

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00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 7: my job. You see what I'm saying. So that's when

815
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Speaker 7: it becomes a problem. And that's why people say, well

816
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Speaker 7: Mike did this. It never affected what they did in

817
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Speaker 7: the field. It never it never affected, it never impacted

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Speaker 7: in a negative way what we were as a team.

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Speaker 5: And in most I'd say eighty maybe eighty percent of

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Speaker 5: being a leader or eighty percent.

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Speaker 6: Of in a locker room is the work and the

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Speaker 6: work ethic.

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Speaker 4: Because if you work hard, the respect comes from that.

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Speaker 5: You got to be good, right, You can't be yes,

825
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Speaker 5: you can't be a mediocre player or you know, an

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Speaker 5: okay player and be a leader.

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Speaker 6: I don't think. I think You've got to be really

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Speaker 6: good at your position.

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Speaker 5: And then you have to do the unspoken work, the

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Speaker 5: film work, the like a Sean Lee kind of guy,

831
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Speaker 5: right like, really good at his position, didn't talk much,

832
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Speaker 5: but was always in the film room and was always

833
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Speaker 5: working extra and always doing the extra work. And then

834
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 5: you develop people gravitate towards that because they admire that

835
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Speaker 5: and they respect that. So then that's how you build

836
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 5: kind of that following in the locker room. Or do

837
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Speaker 5: you or have you ever seen a leader that's a

838
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Speaker 5: leader that kind of had a reputation of.

839
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Speaker 6: He didn't really do the work, but helly, he's a

840
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 6: hell of a player. And you know, are there are

841
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 6: there different types or do you have to do.

842
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to. I'll tell you off there. Okay,

843
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 7: I'll tell you off there because I don't want to.

844
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 7: But but some of your favorites, some of your favorite cowboys,

845
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Speaker 7: at least in the time that I was a part

846
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Speaker 7: of the team, and I've been coming to a team,

847
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 7: some of your favorite cowboys who were quote unquote the

848
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Speaker 7: leaders of the team.

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Speaker 4: You ain't want to follow that junk.

850
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 5: But were they leaders to the locker Everybody has their

851
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 5: own opinion outside no right facing like, oh.

852
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Speaker 6: He's a leader, he's a leader.

853
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Speaker 5: But when you really, when you really get to know,

854
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Speaker 5: like the people in the locker room, like what we're

855
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Speaker 5: going to talk.

856
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Speaker 6: About off air.

857
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Speaker 5: I know some of the guys you're gonna say, right,

858
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Speaker 5: and they were good, Right, they're good and they were

859
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 5: they were good players like you were, Like, not only

860
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: were a good player, they were some of the best

861
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Speaker 5: players on the team in the league. But were they

862
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 5: but were they leaders or were they just leaders to

863
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 5: the public?

864
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Speaker 6: Did they leave the locker room or was it kind of.

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Speaker 4: Like they had a following.

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Speaker 7: Okay, let me say that they had a following, but

867
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 7: they didn't have the whole locker they didn't have the whole.

868
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Speaker 8: Locker room, and that somebody like in the case of Martin,

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Speaker 8: he was probably a good leader, but was he just

870
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Speaker 8: a good leader to the offensive lineman? I mean as

871
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 8: a guy, you know, Donovan Wilson gonna follow Zach Martin

872
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 8: that kind of thing. Is it more uh, you know,

873
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Speaker 8: broken up.

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Speaker 6: Like that, segmented in position groups?

875
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Speaker 7: It could be, like it definitely could be. But like

876
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 7: we're talking about offensive lineman. I remember a couple of

877
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 7: years ago when the Nighters would talk about, uh, Trent Williams,

878
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 7: they was, no, he's a leader, he's an offensive lineman.

879
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 7: They said when Trent spoke, we all listened. When Trent

880
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 7: said something office defense whoever you you you you, you

881
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 7: turned your attention to what he was saying. So it

882
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 7: could it couldn't You know? Yes, at times it could

883
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 7: be segmented like that, but there are offensive lineman who

884
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Speaker 7: would command the attention of the team bye.

885
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 4: Bye by their work. The work comes first.

886
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 7: Let me say that you don't get any respect from

887
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 7: anybody on this on this level, if if, if the

888
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 7: productivity is not there, yeah, if they don't, they don't,

889
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 7: if they if you, if you will, bum hush.

890
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 8: Well we've talked before. I think we've kind of talked

891
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 8: about it's what some of the struggles of this team.

892
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 8: Then the locker room leadership. So you know, I hate

893
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 8: to see these guys leave, and I do think they

894
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 8: were good leaders, but maybe it is time for new blood.

895
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: I mean, it's been a thirty year drought.

896
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 7: If that, if we're if we're basing it on that,

897
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 7: you know what I'm what I'm saying like there hasn't

898
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 7: been enough leadership to get some over the hump, all right.

899
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 5: So another question that's related to that, can some of

900
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 5: these guys are leaving like you said there's turnover. There's

901
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 5: young guys that are gonna step in and kind of

902
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 5: fill these roles, and some of them will. I think

903
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 5: there's some guys that say vocally I'm gonna be the

904
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 5: now that he's gone.

905
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 6: I think there's some.

906
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 5: Guys that build that following and just organically become a leader.

907
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 6: Can let's just say, let's just say.

908
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 5: Dorn Blam, we pull him out in are right, Like,

909
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 5: he's a young talent, he's good. I don't know anything

910
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 5: about his work ethic or anything like that. But can

911
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 5: if you start getting a following in the locker room,

912
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 5: can that translate into confidence on the field and taking

913
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 5: you to the next level of your game.

914
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 6: Have you ever seen that happen?

915
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, because what happens is when you get a following,

916
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 7: now everyone's watching.

917
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 4: So now I have to be out of work harder, right,

918
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: I have to be here.

919
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 7: I have to know what I'm talking about because the

920
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 7: following comes in and go, hey, hey, Douran, what we

921
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 7: have on this coverage?

922
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 4: What's the call? If I don't know, I lose my following.

923
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 7: Like that's the part about the following is when they

924
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 7: when they need answers, when they need understanding.

925
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 4: They come to me and I have to be able to.

926
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 6: Provide that for the mentor and all of that.

927
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 7: Right, So, now when I'm able to go out there

928
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 7: or or it's it's in that it's in that meeting,

929
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 7: and this has happened. I've seen this happen before. It's

930
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 7: in that meeting where whether it's office defense, whether it's

931
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 7: team office defense, or it's a position meeting, and the

932
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 7: coach is saying something and then that guy goes, hold on, coach.

933
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, play it again. Now we

934
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: should be in this or that was the call.

935
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 7: And coach goes, you know what you're right now that

936
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 7: like it's that type of thing. People looking like, oh

937
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 7: he really knows his stuff, you know what I'm saying.

938
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 7: When it's when you're you know, sometime when you're in

939
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 7: that meeting room and and and like I said, coach

940
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 7: is calling things out.

941
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 4: Coach is calling things out.

942
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 7: Now you're looking at it and it's saying, oh, wow,

943
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't know, I don't have the answers.

944
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 7: And now looking at you like, well then I can't

945
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 7: trust you.

946
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 4: I can't I can't.

947
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 7: Follow a man who don't know what he's doing. If

948
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 7: he knows what he's doing, I can follow. But if

949
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 7: he if he's if he's questioning what he has to do,

950
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 7: then I'm gonna question him and what I have to do.

951
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 7: So now I gotta find a new leader. And so

952
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 7: when you have those guys that are able to set

953
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 7: that type of tone, the following growth, the following growth,

954
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 7: and once you have a following now you look around

955
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 7: and you go, oh, I am an example. Now, so

956
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 7: now I gotta watch the extra film. I gotta be

957
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 7: in the weight room, I gotta be here on time,

958
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 7: I gotta practice, I gotta do all these things because

959
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 7: I look around and it was just about me. Now

960
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 7: I got seven eight guys saying what you think we're

961
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 7: counting on? You were coming to you for the answers.

962
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 7: And that's when that that that's when you can kind

963
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 7: of morph into that uh, into that leader. But it's

964
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 7: it's it's the expectations.

965
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 8: It can't be I'm the guy.

966
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: It's gotta be trying to give me trouble.

967
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 7: Na get me, Kurt, You're not gonna get They're not

968
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 7: gonna get me. You're not gonna get me out. I'm

969
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 7: just saying is just be a leader. You have to

970
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 7: tell everybody that you're the leader.

971
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 4: Just be it. Everyone will be a leader.

972
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 6: Kirk, don't tell us you're the leader.

973
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 4: Everyone will know you.

974
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 6: Just keep doing this.

975
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 5: This work all right, well, fellas, it was fun this.

976
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 5: Hopefully we'll have some big news, some big free agent

977
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 5: signing in the next week.

978
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 6: We can talk about next week. If not, who knows

979
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 6: what we'll.

980
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: Talk about draft something.

981
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 5: I'm sure somebody upstairs will say something that we'll be

982
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: able to, you know, maybe the MAVs will make another move.

983
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 7: Something completely random. Did you see what Southwest did about

984
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 7: what I was driving in? Southwest? Is crazy? At least

985
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 7: we didn't trade Lucas stop. You guys lost a lot

986
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 7: of customers with that new policy with a sponsor.

987
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 4: Sorry, if you are there, they're not American.

988
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 6: Let's go, I will I will fly American Now.

989
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 5: I used to be on the other side because of

990
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 5: the free bag policy.

991
00:47:59,640 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 6: Yep.

992
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 5: Now, I'm thanks American yepporting the Cowboys because here we go.

993
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 5: All right, fellas, good stuff. We will be back next Thursday,

994
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 5: same time, same But.

995
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 7: What maybe oh I'm joking?

996
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 4: Okay, what is it?

997
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 6: When does you drop another spots.

998
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, talking about it.

999
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 6: What is the draft?

1000
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 5: April twenty six eight, So we have a month and

1001
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 5: a half before the draft.

1002
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 6: So we'll start getting into draft talk.

1003
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 8: Soon sixty five, start breaking down that film for us.

1004
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 6: I will yeah, I'll get you by. I got big

1005
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 6: working on my book for.

1006
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 7: For several months, working to Good Draft magazine, right, yes,

1007
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 7: deadline this week?

1008
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, when's it come out?

1009
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 4: Deadline?

1010
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, probably by the time he gets online, and did

1011
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 8: probably be first part of April, first.

1012
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 4: Part of April.

1013
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,479
Speaker 6: Who all's contributing this year?

1014
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 8: All the normal writers, you know, Kyle's doing a lot

1015
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 8: of the work. Tommy Mickey Patrick on Bold.

1016
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 6: Good deal you.

1017
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 8: Oh sure, we got to plug yourself.

1018
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 15: You're quiet here, but hey yeah, Leading magazine. No, he

1019
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 15: just they know that's right, They know you got to

1020
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 15: say it. They know no that need to know.

1021
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 9: No drop the draft is the twenty fourth, twenty fourth

1022
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 9: there it is twenty four four, twenty six.

1023
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 6: You go twenty seven, twenty two nine.

1024
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 9: You will be very disappointed.

1025
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, well twenty six you'll be good.

1026
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, you'll be like the first the first part fourth

1027
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 6: Jesus is gonna quick.

1028
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 5: It's in Green Bay this year how many people do

1029
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 5: you think are going that you know, I have heard

1030
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 5: about lambeau and the mystique in the area of lambeau Field,

1031
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 5: and they go to this draft and they get there

1032
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 5: and they.

1033
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 6: Go this is a terrible decision. There's nothing to do in.

1034
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 9: Green Bay, Like I want to know where all these

1035
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 9: people are going to stay, right Milwaukee shuttling.

1036
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 5: Yes, but it's like I guarantee you there's going to

1037
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 5: be a large number of people that are going to

1038
00:49:59,719 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 5: go in.

1039
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 6: Just be like, this is it.

1040
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 4: Cheose it up?

1041
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 9: Amazing stadium, Like we went to Green Bay and stayed

1042
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 9: in Appleton.

1043
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, don't knock Apple.

1044
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: That's it. Them airbnbs around the stadium going to.

1045
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 6: Be man lit. You ain't lied. I would take vacation

1046
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 6: and be like, take.

1047
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 4: It for take it for a week.

1048
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 6: For a week, I'm going to Mexico.

1049
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 5: All right, We'll be back next week. Hopefully tune in

1050
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 5: to see if we make it or not.

1051
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 6: Hanging with the Boys we out.

1052
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,120
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1053
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,160
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